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I had several surgeries between 2007 and 2009 for Breast Cancer. I developed Bronchiectasis within a few months after my last surgery, although it took nearly five years to get an accurate diagnosis.
Bronchiectasis differs from other COPD diseases in that it is characterized by excessive phlegm production, occasional bleeding of the bronchial tubes, constant flu like symptoms associated with the infection, periodic low grade fever, and coughing (particularly when laying down at night) and wheezing. Many people with Bronchiectasis are mis-diagnosed as asthma, COPD, etc.
Apparently, Pseudomonas Aeruginosa is already somewhat antibiotic resistant when it infects the lungs. The general progression is one of mild infections in the beginning, then increasingly worse and worse over time. In the last four months, I have been on antibiotics of varying kinds and strengths five times. I have now become resistant to ALL of them. When the infection "blows up" it happens very fast and I have been hospitalized twice in two years with Pneumonia.
I had tried some natural remedies in the early stages of this disease but saw no improvement, so succumbed to the idea that the medical establishment was my only hope. Now that is gone as well. I am ready to try ANYTHING. I am particularly interested in CS, DMSO, HP inhaled or diffused. I am starting an ACV and MSM intake protocol.
I also do a clearing technique I learned at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, FL. I lay on the bed with my legs bent, feet tucked up close to my hips and then raise my hips as high as I can. Trying to avoid coughing, I labor breathe out, pushing the phlegm down my esophagus to my throat and then simultaneously coughing and sitting up and spitting into a cup. I do this several times until there is nothing left to cough up. I do this once a day, usually in the evening before dinner (ie; on an empty stomach! ).
I also use a percussion machine, a vest filled with air that percusses, loosening the phlegm and I use Symbicort 160/4.5 inhaler after breakfast, once a day.
I would appreciate ANY suggestions people have on how to improve my condition. Thank you all so much in advance!
N Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) will act as a mucolytic to help thin the mucus so it can flow out easier and NAC has antibiofilm qualities which will help breakdown any biofilms that are protecting the bacteria and NAC is also a potent antioxidant and radical scavenger. NAC also has anti inflammatory qualities which may be needed. NAC has also shown benefit in Cystic Fibrosis.
Another consideration is Colloidal Silver 20 ppm (CS 20ppm) delivered via a nebulizer or small cold process ultrasonic vaporizer. If CS is not available then you can consider Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide (FGHP) at 1% to 1 1/2%, no higher, via a nebulizer or small cold process ultrasonic vaporizer. These are active against pathogenic bacteria, virus, yeast, fungi and mold spores. Do not use both at the same time as FGHP may nullify the CS.
Melatonin acts as a potent protectant for the lungs and other organs through its antiapoptotic, antioxidant, radical scavenging, upregulating of the bodies own potent antioxidant system and potent anti inflammatory effects. It also is a fibrosis fighter in multiple organs of the body. Melatonin is also active against multiple lung diseases and lung inflammation.
It appears that you are in the UK and if so, melatonin will require a prescription. Here in the US it is available at most stores over the counter and is inexpensive.
These three or four items should be very helpful for your friend and then if needed later, you can see what symptoms are still a problem and we can go from there.
Art
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If I had what you have, I would start taking Melatonin 10mg. I used to have a recurring cough for years. After taking Melatonin it stopped and 6 years later nothing.
Melatonin has been tested by 39,000 patients and none had any side effects. It will fix anything that needs fixing. Brain, lungs, heart, liver and so on. Start with 10mg. if you do not have any side effects after a few days take 20mc. 1 hour before bed. Continue increasing up to the number that suits you. I have increased mine and I take 40-50mg. Art on this site is at 130 mg plus a night. It will definitely help your lungs.
God Bless
Gary
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There are no studies that I am aware of to support the use of colloidal silver via a nebulizer, so I can not make a recommendation on how much to use.
For myself, I use a cold process vaporizer when I am going to inhale colloidal silver (CS), but I do that knowing that it may be dangerous since there are no studies to say otherwise and again, I can not recommend that anyone else do what I am doing with colloidal silver. I use the cold process vaporizer instead of a nebulizer because simply because it delivers a given amount of CS faster than a nebulizer. I may try a nebulizer some day, but I like to get done in 10 minutes for each session, so I have stuck with a vaporizer.
My cold process vaporizer needs 2 ounces minimum to operate so I add that amount so the machine can turn on. I inhale directly from the exhaust port of the vaporizer for 10 minutes and I do that 3 times a day. When I am done with the session, I dump out the remaining colloidal silver (CS). Judging by the amount left in the machine, it appears to be minus a quarter ounce of CS. So my assumption is that a quarter ounce of CS went through the machine, but I did not inhale a quarter ounce because the vapor comes out of the machine constantly, but I am breathing in and breathing out and when I am breathing out I am not inhaling any of the vapor. So if there is no loss of the CS vapor at all, I might barely be getting an 1/8th ounce of CS into my lungs. I can clearly see that there is vapor loss to the open air, so I am not even getting an 1/8th of an ounce of CS from my ten minute session.
This is how I use it, but again, I can not recommend that anyone do this because it is unproven and may not be safe.
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Here is just one article on what taking 200 mg/day of zinc can cause --
https://patient.info/doctor/zinc-deficiency-excess-and-supplementation
He is also suggesting using zinc picolinate, one of the more bioavailable forms of zinc that may further contribute to zinc toxicity as the body will absorb more of it than other forms of zinc.
Overall, I think a very high dose of zinc supplementation is a bad idea for people. I personally never go over 100 mg/day.
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British Medical Journal BMJ · Volume 1, p. 839. 1881
Delivered at the Hospital for Consumption and Diseases of the Chest, Brompton.
By C. THEODORE WILLIAMS, M.A., M.D., F.R.C.P., Physician to the Hospital.
Let us now take some well-marked examples of bronchiectasis, and verify our description of the disease as given in the last lecture.
TREATMENT.-The chief principles to be kept in view are:
(1) the prevention of fresh catarrh.
(2) the stimulation of the walls of the bronchi, so as to bring into play any muscular tissue that remains.
(3) the improvement in the character and amount of the bronchial secretion.
The first point is arrived at by keeping the patient as far as possible in an equable atmosphere, and at the same time bracing his frame and power of enduring changes of atmosphere by cold sponging and salt baths, warm and cold. There is no doubt, too, that cold affusion is a very effective way of stimulating respiration and expectoration, and thus attaining the second point of treatment. Cold affusions are part of Kneipp therapy, which uses contrasting hot and cold water applications to treat a variety of conditions. The contrasting applications can help increase metabolism, boost the immune system, and stimulate blood flow.
In many cases, the most effective evacuation of the bronchial tubes takes place after the morning sponge-bath; and the chief good of the douches applied by our German brethren to the chest lies in the deep inspirations and expirations which they induce, these promoting expectoration. Stimulation of the bronchial muscle is difficult in bronchiectasis, because often very little of the muscular element remains; but it should be attempted by aid of strong expectorants and diffusible stimulants. These may be introduced either by the stomach in form of spiritus ætheris, carbonate of ammonia, oil of turpentinein capsules, tinctures of benzoin, tolu, senega, and larch, capsules de goudron, and such like; or directly to the air-passages, by the use of handball spray-apparatus containing solutions of ipecacuanha wine, tar-water, and carbolic acid. But, according to my experience, these have proved of little avail, chiefly because cold fluids are uncongenial to a congested and inflamed mucous membrane; and, on the other hand, warm inhalations appear to penetrate far deeper into the air-passages, and are more soothing to the patient. The best forms are compound tincture of benzoin (two drachms to the pint of boiling water), oil of turpentine (23 minims = 1.41ml to 30 minims = 1.84ml), thymol, pinus sylvestris, and juniper, inhaled night and morning from a pint jug with a wide mouth, with a napkin arranged like a funnel to conduct the vapours to the patient's nose and mouth. The third point is best attained by anti-septic inhalations, such as glycerine of carbolic acid (two to four drachms to the pint), creasote (tenminims to the pint), tar-water, all of which tend to correct the fætor, and to reduce the amount of secretion. It has often occurred to me that the ordinary methods of inhalation are a very imperfect mode of applying remedial agents to the lungs. The effort of inhalation, and even of using sprays, is very fatiguing to the patient, and prevents their application more than two or three times daily. A far better way would be to impregnate the atmosphere of a chamber with a very small percentage of the required drug, as well as warming and moistening it so that the patient could continually inhale it without effort. Wire respirators, arranged to cover both nose and mouth, between the layers of which lint and sponge soaked in various solutions are placed, have also proved beneficial incases of bronchiectasis. When, however, none of these means enable the patient to get rid of the accumulating secretions, what is to be done to prevent death by septicemia? Are we justified in tapping the bronchiectasis? Assuredly we are, if we can be certain that the dilatation is limited to one set of bronchi, and is not a general condition of the bronchi of both lungs. In too many instances, this latter is the case, and then operation is useless. Emetics may be resorted to as an occasional measure of relief; but such a general dilatation of the bronchial tree is a very hopeless condition with which to deal. The dietary ought to be most generous, including a fair amount of stimulant in the form of brandy or whiskey, which, mixed with warm water, assists expectoration. The marine stimulating climates, such as Brighton, Eastbourne, Margate, Ramsgate, Yarmouth, Whitby, and Scarborough, do most good in these cases.
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I also found out from my massage therapist about Manuka Honey. You can get it from some grocery stores, I get mine from Amazon. It is quite expensive, but it does help with pseudomomas. I take about 1 tsp twice a day. It seems to be helping with my infections.
I hope this has helped some. It is a very unforgiving disease. Eat well, sleep well and keep a positive attitude.
Please email me if you have any other questions.
Janet
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The ivermectin dose in milligrams is .2 times your body weight in kilograms. Take every two weeks or I just took it on the 1st and again on the 16th or 17th of the month. So with a body weight of 210 lbs, the dose for me is 19 mg so I rounded it up to 20 mg since each section of the paste has 5 milligrams of ivermectin in it. So I took 4 sections of the paste for each dose. I took the IHP for 15 months.
During 2021, I had taken Covid every few months, or about 3 times until I started this horse paste which really cleared out the mucus in my lungs for good.
Now I take the 50 mg zinc picolinate (ZP) capsules at 400 mg per day in divided doses during the winter and 300 mg per day in warmer months for allergies and such. So that is 2 capsules or 100 mg every 6 hours in winter. I order ZP capsules from PipingRock when they are on sale.
So I now think ZP is possibly better than ivermectin because taking ZP reversed a sore throat for me several times in the winter of 2021-22. I also tried taking zinc citrate powder at the time, which did nothing, so I immediately switched back to the ZP.
I had become very impressed with quercetin dihydrate in 2016 for protecting my lungs and sinuses.
I had thought that taking quercetin dihydrate powder (QDP) would protect my lungs from Covid, but it didn't. I have known taking QDP to move mucus out of my lungs, so taking QDP is probably advisable. I order QDP from BulkSupplements in the 250 gram bag. Mornings I just take a level quarter measuring teaspoon of the yellow quercetin powder with water, which is about 500 mg.
For decades, what has liquefied lung and sinus mucus for me is 1/2 slightly rounded measuring teaspoon of Dash Table Blend seasoning (DTBS), taken with water. I buy the 6.75 oz bottle at Walmart in the spice aisle. It has expectorant herbs in it. It usually takes 2 or 3 days to start to thin the lung mucus if the body is ready to cough it up, with the sinuses eventually clearing as well.
So I think the IHP, ZP, QDP and DTBS could possibly improve your lungs.
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I go to town to shop every 10 or 12 days, and my Covid sore throats would start the next day like clockwork during the winter months, so I am glad megadosing the ZP worked surprisingly well for me. I have considered that my immune system may be impaired from a long since blown out vasectomy from 1980.
Any member concerns about zinc overdoses are well-taken by me and accepted.
I thought about also including copper in my supplements to offset zinc, but haven't.
Thanks and appreciation for all opinions such as from Marty about my possibly excessive zinc intake, and for pointing out the superior absorption of the picolinate form of zinc.
Actually, I stopped taking the zinc picolinate on Nov 3, 2022 because of indigestion.
I will still try taking ZP for any sore throats but probably at the 2 capsule dose of 400 mg per day instead of 600 mg per day.
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So I implemented a three capsule dose of 50 mg zinc picolinate (ZP) internally every 6 hours. That's 150 mg of ZP per dose or 600 mg per day. It worked great again, within a day, to eliminate the sore throat. I like the 3 capsule dose because it provides a surplus of zinc while the 2 capsule, 6 hour dose was barely enough to overcome the sore throat.
I don't have any bad or negative side-effects from this level of ZP.
This form of zinc is so absorbable that I see the chance of a zinc overload as unlikely because the cells take it up and then utilize zinc to eliminate the virus.
I like the 6 hour dose interval because that also worked well for me last winter.
Actually, I stopped taking the zinc picolinate on Nov 3, 2022 because of indigestion.
I will still try taking ZP for any sore throats but probably at the 2 capsule dose of 400 mg per day instead of 600 mg per day.
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I have recently been diagnosed with bronchiectasis and have been nebulizing Colloidal Silver. My question is how long should I be doing this for? I know CS will destroy the biofilm surrounding pseudomonas aeruginosa but Will it get rid of bronchiectasis or will I have this for life? I have not had surgery or been on a ventilator so don't know how I got this. I did have Valley Fever 10 years ago and have calcified lesions on my lungs from that, but don't know if it caused the bronchiectasis. Any advice would be appreciated.
Please allow me to print your article so I can show it to my pulmonologist.
EC: Hi Edith Are you referring to one of the reader posts on our Bronchiectasis page or the "4 Supplements for Long-Covid" article by Art Solbrig (https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/supplements-for-long-covid.html)? Either way, we are sure no one will mind if you print out their post or article for your doctor.
The great Jim humble found it and there's been alot of misinformation as it's not profitable..
I hope this helps
Rachel
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Thanks for the reminder about copper.
Actually, I stopped taking the zinc picolinate on Nov 3, 2022 because of indigestion.
I will still try taking ZP for any sore throats but probably at the 2 capsule dose of 400 mg per day instead of 600 mg per day.
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The suggested label dose on my bottle is 500 mg total per day which is equal to two capsules since they are 250 mg per capsule. That is what I almost always use, but have gone as high as 3 capsules per day for a very short period of time.
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They say there is no cure BUT I'm a strong believer in natural remedies….. Yeah, sure not all natural remedies work that great BUT I sure am GLAD to come across your website!!!!! At the age of 61, just finding out there is a name to something I've struggled with this hole journey of life….I appreciate your article greatly!!!!! I will put in the practice and look up the herbs that was suggested in your article to learn more about them. Thank you for your time, For the struggle is real Sandra
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Thank you very much on such a detailed explanation how to treat bronchiectasis and would like to ask you just a one question if you can help. I would like to try using Colloidal Silver in Nebuliser but I don't know how much to put CS in it. Would you please know to tell me how much Colloidal Silver should go in Nebuliser? Thank you in advance. Kind regards, Lilly.
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I have tried many natural routes and would be happy to connect with you to talk through what has worked for each of us....I am in St Pete Fl...
One of my next approaches may be methylene blue with red light therapy...
Thank you, Laura
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She suffers from bronchiectasis, cystic fibrosis and many other illnesses.
She tried PT for several months although this was getting unbearable, so when need now uses a nebuliser.
She as recently suffered two bouts of pneumonia and the anti bionics are losing their effectiveness
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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