My Chorkie had a horrible reaction to his Rabies/portadello...almost lost him! Living 5 miles from the vet I was just blocks from our home when max started FLIPPING all over the floor of the car. My first reaction was that his harness was pinching him. I pulled over, removed the harness, and at that time he started struggling with his breathing... His tongue was hanging out and he just went limp. I ran into the house (carrying this little 6 lb. Dog who is having a hard time breathing) called the vet and they told me to get him back out there quickly! Now his face is swelling and he is really gasping for air as we get back to the vets. They gave him a pill because they were afraid to give him another shot! I've never gone back for is booster.
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I own and run an extremely successful hydrotherapy pool for dogs. This means over the period of 14 years I have treated thousands of dogs. Very many, including my previous dog, Monty, have suffered many and numerous side effects from over vaccination. These range from weakness in legs, auto-immune diseases, such as arthritis, skin complaints with rashes and skin turning black, hot spots, hair loss, nerve damage and brain damage. I, amongst, a growing number, including a long list of alternative vets in England, believe dogs do not need vaccines throughout their lives. When I realised my beloved Monty was vaccine damaged, I had teeter tests performed, this shows the anti bodies in the dogs blood. Every year Monty had high levels of resistance to parvo, distemper, para-influenza & distemper. The test does not show lepto. I believe you should wait till puppy is 12 weeks, so the immune system is better able to cope, before giving vaccines and after the initial 2 sets, 2 weeks apart, then they are protected for life. No flea or tick treatments either they are another form of toxins our dogs systems can do without. Go with your instinct on all matters concerning your dog and remember to question always. . . Whose interest is it in. . Your dogs or your vets.
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Central, Vt, Usa
Posted by Javagenie (Central, Vt, Usa) on 05/04/2010
I have a Boxer that had distemper and rabies shot last November 2009 (he was about a year old). About a month later he started to develop severe dry/red skin with blotches. He was digging at his skin constantly and obsessively. We finally brought him to the vet and they gave him a round of antibiotics that helped clear it up slightly. For months afterwards, he kept having these out breaks about once a month. This past spring (2010) we took him again because he had itchy skin. They gave him the same antibiotics and not realizing he had already been vaccinated for rabies a few months ago administered another shot. About 2 weeks later he started digging at himself even more than he has ever done before. He also started to act differently (aggressive at time and sometimes confused). We brought him back to the vet and they administered a shot of cortisone. That night he started to have these seizure looking episodes that only affected the movement of his head and he was completely concious and alert. Regardless of our description the vet's diagnosised it as focal epileptic seizures and immediately started to administer phenobarbitol. After about 2days later with the phenobarbitol not working, he was looking terrible and I was beginning to wonder if he was going to survive. By this time I was loosing faith with our vet. So, I began to do some extensive internet research. I found that the seizures were actually called "head tremors" and some believe are to be caused from vaccinations and/or a compromised immune system. This led me down a long trail of information about vaccinations and specifically overvaccinosis. I immediately started to administer milk thistle combined with dandelion root and burdock. The head tremors immediately started to get better and within a few days he stopped having them. Only on a few occassions within the past 4-6wks has he had them since giving him this liver detox formula. After finding great success with this natural miracle cure... We seeked the council of a hollistic/homeopathic vet and have been trying to repair the damage caused by this unnecessary vaccination protocol. After about a month of a raw diet, supplements, and homeopathic treatments our beloved pet is starting to make some improvements. He is still in the detox phase... so, it is tough some days. But, we are all confident that he will have an almost full recovery within the next 12mo.
My advice to anyone who has noticed any changes in their pet following any vaccinations within 3mo. is to seek a naturalistic vet ASAP. If it were not for sites like these my dog would have been dead at the hands of a normal veterinarian professional. It's time for the medical community to wake up and stop poisoning us and our pets with toxins! Stop treating symptoms and treat the cause naturally and safely!!!!
Posted by Belle (Whitby, ON. Canada) on 07/22/2009
From what I have read (and I have read quite extensively on this subject) the vets buy the vaccines in pre-measured doses from the pharmaceutical companies. The doses are not properly adjusted for the animal's size and weight, and so your dog may well have been overdosed. Also, more problems arise with time, as the dogs become over-vaccinated with unecessary yearly boosters. I have two purebred shih tzu, aged 3yr... and 6 yr. The older one has developed auto-immune problems (problems seldom seen years ago when few dogs were ever vaccinated). This dog has received its last vaccinations and so has the 3 year old. I would have stopped sooner, but I have pet insurance which always asks the vet on each claim form if the pet's vaccinations are up to date. I have eliminated this condition by cancelling the pet insurance! The money I save on premiums and on unnecessary vaccinations (not covered by insurance) will be better spent on holistic vet care. I will spend my money on titer tests to determine if their level of immunity is sufficient, rather than vaccinate willy-nilly with a backward-thinking vet. There is only ONE holistic vet in my area and she has a long waiting list for patients. Most vets were so heavily indoctrinated at veterinary college and cannot (or will not) break free of their paradigm (framework of thinking) from what they were initially taught. Also, vaccination is a large percentage of their revenue. I like my current vet very much and hate changing to another one, but this vaccination nonsense and her over-reliance on antibiotics (which are not even successful) leaves me no choice but to pursue holistic treatment on my own while I work my way up the waiting list for the holistic vet.
And oh, by the way, in my reading I have found out that there have been a number of "faulty vaccines" not properly prepared by the companies, with tragic results. Get a good book (such as "Vaccine Guide for Dogs and Cats") on this subject at a holistic pet store or try online.
Posted by Laura (Lombard, IL) on 07/19/2009
I work with animals in many ways, grooming~vet tech~rescue....
Please be an informed pet owner and find out what is required BY LAW in your state as to NOT over vaccinate your pet. (and then ask your vet to low dose it)
Over vaccination is a huge health hazard to your pets. There are many holistic vets now if you do some research.
Over vaccination creates a revenue generating pet for the conventional vet and usually leads to life of misery for the poor pet that is suffering a whole bunch of auto immune diseases and seizures,allergies etc....
Take some time and research!! So many pets dying from poor quality food-over vaccination and poor quality water.
All they have is us to depend on don't let them down!
Posted by CShep (Conyers, Georgia) on 06/02/2009
As requested, I'm emailing regarding vaccination affects we've had in our pets.
In 2004, we had a 5 year old female husky to die within 2 hours of receiving her vaccination. She'd had shots every year (DA2PP) without any problems. This year the vet added the Corona Vaccine which is what we think killed her.
We took her for an necropsy immediately to UGA Vet School. Receiving vet said there was no doubt she died from vax reaction. The vet doing the necropsy had the cell phone number to my vet (they knew each other), made personal calls to each other. I think to protect my vet from a law suit or what-not, the vet doing the necropsy reported her death inconclusive, died from swelling in brain (encyphelytis). Thus, this tragedy could not be reported to the vaccine companies!!!!
The same day, a 3 year old Shih Tzu had what I call neurological effects. He was despondent and screamed if we touched him for 3 days. Its like all his nerves were very sensitive. For an addl 7 days he was distant and a touch-me-not and whimpered if we touched him. He had never had any reactions to a vaccine before. I also contribute this to the corona that was added to the vaccine.
The vet REFUSED to believe that his vaccine caused either of these. Yet, on the same day I had 2 dogs severely affected.
I have since learned that corona only affects puppies; thus, no need to ever be given to an adult dog. Yet, most vets include this in the vaccine protocol. I now buy my own vaccinations and give the shots myself on a more conservative protocol due to the new findings of how we are way over vaccinating our pets.
I encourage all to learn about the vaccines their pets are getting and do not accept a vets word that all are safe. He's in business to make money. When adding the corona vax in 2004, the vet charged an addl $30 per vaccine!!!!!
EC: Thank you, CShep. We're cross-posting your feedback in the advice section and the side effects section.
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Posted by Elizabeth (Adelaide, Australia) on 03/13/2009
People who are concerned about the health of their pets should read the latest international guidelines for dog and cat vaccination.
In 2007 the World Small Animal Veterinary Association (WSAVA) published Dog and Cat Vaccination Guidelines (built on the US AAHA (Canine) and AAFP (Feline) guidelines) for global application. Ref: http://www.wsava.org/PDF/Misc/VGG_09_2007.pdf
The WSAVA guidelines include a number of significant statements:
- We should aim to vaccinate every animal, and to vaccinate each individual less frequently. (p. 2)
- we should aim to reduce the 'vaccine load' on individual animals in order to minimise the potential for adverse reactions to vaccine products. (p. 3)
- Vaccines should not be given needlessly. Core vaccines should not be given any more frequently than every three years after the 12 month booster injection following the puppy/kitten series. (p. 2)
- In the case of dogs, the Fact Sheets of the WSAVA guidelines note that duration of immunity after vaccination with MLV vaccines is 7 years or longer, based on challenge and serological studies, for Canine Parvovirus Type 2 (CPV-2), Canine Adenovirus (CAV-2) and Canine Distemper Virus (CDV) vaccines. (pp. 15-17)
In regards to duration of immunity, Professor Ronald Schultz, an expert in immunology and a member of the WSAVA Vaccination Guidelines Group, notes:
"I believe that dogs and cats vaccinated as puppies and kittens should be revaccinated at 1 year of age with the vaccines used earlier. After that I do not believe there is an immunologic need to revaccinate annually with CDV, CPV-2, CAV-2..." (Ref: Current and future canine and feline vaccination programs. Veterinary Medicine, March 1998, pp. 233-254).
In an article published in August 1995 (nearly 14 years ago!), Professor Schultz stated:
"I don't think there is a need to vaccinate adult dogs, since early vaccination will be sufficient to stimulate memory cells." (Ref: Are we vaccinating too much? JAVMA, Vol 207, No. 4, August 15, 1995).
If your vet sends you an annual reminder to have your adult dog revaccinated with the core MLV vaccines for parvovirus, adenovirus and distemper, challenge him. The latest scientifically based guidelines state that it is not necessary for adult dogs to have these vaccinations every year of their life. It is of no benefit and actually puts the dog needlessly at risk of an adverse reaction.
I learned this the hard way when my dog (Sasha - an eight year old Maltese x Silky terrier) became very sick with what was diagnosed as "haemorrhagic gastroenteritis" eight days after her last unnecessary revaccination with core MLV vaccines (C5 booster). My dog had six annual boosters during her life, most of which were unnecessary, and needlessly put her at risk of an adverse reaction. Sasha is now dead, put to sleep four days after the visible onset of her illness. The veterinarian who vaccinated her refused to consider her illness (and subsequent death) might have been caused or influenced by the vaccination. I am now in the process of preparing my own "adverse event" report.
I have been researching this subject since Sasha's death last September and I am shocked by what I have discovered. Australia is way behind on this issue. A culture of unnecessary and possibly harmful over-vaccination with core MLV vaccines has become entrenched. The whole system is weighted against acknowledging and reporting delayed reactions that might have been caused by vaccination. I am currently trying to fight this system.
According to a paper by an expert in this area, Dr Jean Dodds, vaccination reactions can occur up to 45 days later, or even longer. (Ref: Vaccination Protocols for Dogs Predisposed to Vaccine Reactions. Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association, May/June 2001, Vol 37, pp 211-214.)
Who knows how many other people's pets have gotten sick or died a week, a month or even longer after a revaccination and they haven't made the connection that the revaccination could have been at fault? The veterinarians aren't likely to mention it are they? The WSAVA guidelines make the point that adverse events are grossly under-reported.(p. 8). So dogs and cats can end up with chronic illnesses, or even die, and the pet owners would never know that over-vaccination may have been the cause - a case of veterinarians "burying their mistakes". If I hadn't decided to do some research after Sasha died, I wouldn't have found out about this. Sasha would have been just another unknown and uncared for statistic.
As more and more people discover that there are veterinarians who are actually putting their beloved pets needlessly at risk with unnecessary over-vaccination with core MLV vaccines, there is likely to be a significant backlash against the veterinary profession.
Those veterinarians who value the integrity of their profession need to address this untenable situation and work to ensure that the practice of unnecessary over-vaccination is ceased immediately. This has been going on for years and important scientifically based information has been withheld from pet owners.
I am trying to have this situation addressed by the Australian Veterinary Association (AVA), the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA) and Australian Veterinary Schools. So far it is proving very difficult to get effective action to address this serious problem...
Read the WSAVA Dog and Cat Vaccination Guidelines and decide for yourself.
People should be informed before they make the decision to revaccinate their pets. There are serious - and unnecessary - risks involved with over-vaccination.
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Pensacola, FL, USA
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South Of Perth, West Australia
Posted by Yvonne LeMay (Aguanga, CA, USA) on 02/28/2009
Please....don't vaccinate your dogs or cats after they've had their puppy shots. It's just not necessary. My toy poddle had reactions to rabies and other annual shots. My new holistic vet said all those shots are NOT necessary, and may in fact be very harmful, as you can see by all the comments on this website. My poodle has not had ANY vaccinations in about 8 years (he's 14 years old now) and he's doing very well. Vets are no different than our own doctors, they are taught to give drugs and vaccinations, rather than get to the root of a problem. Ever notice how you take your dog/cat for annual shots and they manage to find other things wrong and you end up with endless bills? That's how they get you there in the first place....scare you into thinking that you HAVE to give your pet annual vaccinations. It's deadly!! Refuse to do it, like parents refusing to vaccinate their children because of the link to autisum....the government is behind saying that vaccinations DON'T cause autisum because they're not concerned with the few who have bad reactions. They think they're saving millions from illness...but what if your loved one is the "one percent" damaged from the vaccination. Wake up....don't let them brainwash you into thinking your dog/cat needs vaccinations every year. It totally overloads their own immune systems.
Posted by Jackie (Hackettstown, NJ) on 01/27/2009
All pet owners should encourage their veterinarians to report known or suspected adverse vaccination side effects to the USDA Center for Veterinary Biologics (USDA/CVB) at 1-800-752-6255. Include the following information: Vaccine Manufacturer's name, Product Brand Name, Product Code, Lot/Serial Number and Expiration Date. Information on the breed, age, injection site and reaction should also be provided.
Posted by Vickie (Lansing, Mi/usa) on 10/29/2011
I do not have dogs, but love them. Personally from a couple of friends & one of my own boarding experiences with my cats years ago-I would recommend skipping as many vaccines as possible and instead having a trusted friend dog sit or have one of those paid pet nannys come and vistit your pet 2-3 times a day while you are out, making sure they are bonded and insured, and have a high reputation for the safety of your pet.
Posted by Ron (Canton, Mass) on 09/19/2010
Read up on vaccincations. They are 16% of vet profits. Overvaccination is something called vaccinosis. A DISEASE! Read all you can about what your pets really need. We humans don't get vaccinations every year. Titers should be checked to see if your pet really needs that yearly vaccinations.
Posted by Penelope (Berwick, Pa) on 06/13/2016
8 days ago, we took our rescue pet to a vet clinic at a local store to get her first shots ever. We believe she was about 2 years old. Yesterday we put her to sleep. Her lungs and body filled up with fluid. Before being vaccinated she had NO HEALTH ISSUES. We had her for almost a year before taking her to be vaccinated. She was given the usual vaccines we get for out other dog but also a Bordetella nasal vaccine. We NEVER board our dogs. I wish someone could tell me what the cause was. I was not even aware she was being given the Bordetella vaccine. I don't think I will ever have another dog vaccinated except for Rabies. Our family is heartbroken.
Posted by Shoni (San Diego ) on 03/25/2016
Older pets cannot handle Bordatella vaccines or Rabies shots as we experienced with our 13 year old beautiful Border collie mix. He was going up stairs, jumping in the car, and daily walks. This all immediately changed one day after two vaccinations with a slight right sided nose bleed was noted. By the second day, a heavy nose bleed required a visit to emergency with fever. Unfortunately, he became lame in the right rear leg by the third day from the rabies shot. We tried to rehab him back with minimal progress. After two weeks his immune system was so wrecked with a huge abscess in his left front leg appeared over night. Along with terrible decisions and Vet care this poor fella was a victim of pure stupidity. Never never never blindly give vaccines as we caused the death of our own very loved pet being irresponsible idiots allowing incompetent Vets to control. Educate, intuition, and common sense can get you a lot farther and save your pet and yourself a lot of unnecessary grief! We laid him to final rest approximately two weeks after his shots-no more suffering in the hands of humans. He is now in a safer place.
Posted by Barbara (Alabama) on 01/08/2016
6 months ago at a wellness check my vet said that my 8 year old MaltiTzu needed a Bordetella vaccine - Immediately after he started snorting and started reverse sneezing - Over the next few months he went back to the Vet and relayed the frequent snorting, sneezing and reverse sneezing - the Vet told us to administer Benedryl - the vet said that the Bordatella had nothing to do with the reverse sneezing and coughing -
Yesterday he became lethargic, stopped eating and had labored breathing - it was after hours and we took him to an emergency vet - his temp was 103 - the vet said that he walked fine - tail wagging and that the only thing she saw was that he was gassious - she told us to take him home and give him a gax-x - she said to followup with our vet in the morning - all night his breath was shallow and raspy - he did not sleep and I held him up to enable his breathing - this morning I was at my local vet at 6 am - the vet told us his temp was 106 - very low white count and that the xray showed fluid in his right lung - diagnosed with asperation pneumonia - we took him to a critical care hospital with an oxygen crate - they worked on him all day - they said that it could be bronchial pneumonia - his status deteriorated and he went into total organ failure - he passed this evening - I am convinced that the bordatella was the cause - all of my vets have denied even hearing of bad reactions from bordatella spray vaccine - something needs to be done
EC: We are so very sorry for your loss.
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Posted by Jody P. (Ct.) on 10/16/2015
My 10 year old beagle Annie had her bordetella vaccine on 9/6/15. The next day she became gravely ill. She seemed to be in severe pain and would flinch when you tried to touch her, especially around the head. I rushed her to our vet and spent 2 days in the hospital. She was sent home with prednisone and antibiotics. She seemed to slowly be getting better until 3 weeks later when Annie developed a severe eye infection. Our vet referred us to a pet eyecare specialist and he concluded it was caused by nerve damage on the left side of her head. Annie was happy and healthy prior to the vaccine.
(HERE IS THE KICKER) our vet contacted the manufacturer or the vaccine and they replied that they have never heard of any problems with the vaccine. Then our vet said they are going to send us a check for 1,300.00 dollars.and they did. Something is very rotten in Denmark. Something must be done about this.