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Vaccination Side Effects in Pets

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Please let us know about any side effects you have witnessed after your pet's vaccination or booster shot. We'd like to know the name of the breed of your pet and also which vaccinations he or she received. Did your annual dog vaccinations include the rabies vaccine? Was it a combination vaccine addressing several potential dog ailments? Did you opt to give your pet cat vaccinations? All the details are important.

As we gather more information around this subject, we can better assess whether first-time vaccinations or follow-up booster shots are responsible for causing deadly complications in certain breeds of dogs and cats.

If your pet has experienced side effects from a medication like ketoconazole (for yeast skin infections), we have a new page on pet medication side effects here.

As of September 4, 2013 over 344 people have reported side effects and over 40 people have reported deaths from pet vaccinations. See their feedback in our table of contents menu entitled "Vaccination Reader Feedback".


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Advice for Side Effects: Benadryl and Cortizone Spray12009-01-25
Advice for Side Effects: Charcoal12011-12-13
Advice for Side Effects: Children's Diphenhydramine12009-10-13
Advice for Side Effects: Lemon, Colloidal Silver12009-12-01
Advice for Side Effects: Medications12009-12-01
Advice for Side Effects: Multiple Remedies22011-09-25
Advice for Side Effects: Nosodes12009-02-06
Advice for Vaccination Side Effects192014-04-19
Avoiding Vaccines82012-12-03
Booster Shots22016-01-05
Bordetella302016-01-08
Combination Shot12013-05-08
Distemper (Cats)132015-04-25
Distemper (Dogs)282015-12-28
Feline Booster Shots12013-05-31
Lepto Vaccine12012-04-12
Neutering Unvaccinated Pets22009-10-19
Neutralize Rabies Vaccine12011-06-02
New Principles of Immunology12012-08-18
Rabies and Distemper12012-01-23
Rattlesnake12012-10-27
Safe Vaccines for Cats12013-10-02
Seizures542011-11-14
Sneezing12015-03-18
The Rabies Challenge Fund12008-01-26
Vaccination Reader Feedback3982015-12-30

Advice for Side Effects: Benadryl and Cortizone Spray  
3 User Reviews | 1 YEA

Posted by Christine (Killeen, Texas) on 01/25/2009

[YEA]  I have a 6 year old Rat Terrier. After recieving her yearly rabies vaccination booster she started having adverse reactions to it. It started with a lot of scratching, and with in a few days to a week a small bald spot appeared with a small lump under the skin, about the size of a quarter. I have had a few friends whose dogs have completely lost all of their hair and regularly have scabs or sores where they recieved their injection, so I knew right away what it was. I as soon as I noticed the missing hair and felt the lump, I took her into the bathroom and washed her from head to paws with a medicated shampoo to rid her skin of any bacteria, dirt, or possible allergins. To prevent her from scratching I spray the area with a cortizone several times during the day, (this is something you can buy at the local pet store) and stop her from messing with it anytime I notice. On days that the itching seems more severe I give her a 25mg benadryl tablet and it does what I need it to do. When I think about it, I gently roll the lump between my index finger and thumb, and I also "snap" the skin a few times by pulling the lump away from her body and allowing it to snap back. This increases blood flow to the area and helps the body deal with the issue. I do these things just a few times, so I dont aggravate her or the area. So far the lump hasnt gotten any bigger, and the hair loss is only localized to that one little spot. I am happy with the results I have seen in her, the lump still isnt completly gone, but its doing much better. Her hair hasnt started to grow back either, but I figure a quarter size bald spot is better than no hair at all. I still continue to bathe her several times a week, but now I am using a oatmeal based wash. It much easier on her skin than continually using a medicated shampoo, and it seems to help with the all over itching as well. I wish you all the best of luck if you run into the same issue. I'd reccomend taking you dog to the vet if the lump continues to get bigger, if your dog gets hives, a temerature, or starts losing hair all over. I have a friend who has a toy Chiuaua and he had a severe reaction. She waited too long and didnt treat him herself so now he has open sores regularly and is hairless. By the time she got him to the vet there wasnt much the vet could do for him. They gave him a cortizone shot and some benadryl... two things anyone can do at home. I hope this helps some one, and once again good luck!!

Replied by Karen
Sealrock, Or.
04/28/2010

Kelp powder will cure all the bald spots by giving the much need nutrition & regulate the glands. I was given a almost bald goat once who could not get up from the ground. within 6 months she was running with the herd and with a full shinny coat. All the Best - it works!
Replied by Becca W.
Waco, Tx
04/14/2011

Christine,

My dog lost his hair too, around the injection site and my vet said it was my fault, and that the fur would grow back once he was feeling better. He still has that triangle of fur missing on his rump, and I will always ask for diluted rabies shots from now on. I have found that Benadryl is good for almost everything that ails a dog, and that like humans, dogs deserve a second opinion too.

Karen: I think I will give that kelp powder a try.... I've tried everything else so this can't do any worse.

Thanks,

Becca


Advice for Side Effects: Charcoal  

Posted by Rosie (Greer, U.s.a) on 12/13/2011

I have had a total of four dogs in my lifetime, two of them had reactions to vaccinations. My first dog was a male pug and had skin allergies. After vaccines, large tumors came up on his skin and there was a very strong smell that never went away. He always smelled but this was alot stronger. I now know that this permanent smell was the liver being unable to detox the vaccines and not due to the lack of bathing. The dog had to be on pregnisone the entire time, without it he would scratch and scratch until there was blood everywhere. I stayed up many nights putting him in a bath of greenzone which helped but didnt cure. I now know that his liver needed some work. He died at the age of two, from a stroke. I cant say it was directly from the vaccines but I can say that he got alot of help from the vaccines and the pregnisone. My other dog was a German Shephard, I inherited him from the neighbor that severly neglected him, she did tell me that he had heartworms, but she didnt tell me about the seizures. I questioned her about his first seizure and she doged the question, but after having many seizures, she finally admitted that his first seizure took place after he was vaccinated and was given heartworm meds. Imagine that, giving a dog with heartworms vaccines. Well that would explain his second seizure that came after the second heartworm treatment. This was a grand mal seizure and I thought that was it, but the doctor gave him a shot of steriods and it revived him. It lasted maybe a week and a half, then I gave him oral steriods every other day and then He had another seizure, but it wasnt bad. Then he got a severe infestation of round worms. I dreaded getting the meds, because I knew what was coming. I had 3 seizures, one every day. By that time, I knew this dog could no longer take any meds at all, I also knew that he couldnt handle chemicals either. But I wasnt able to put it all together fast enough. He started to decline, took him to holistic vet, she gave him an eye exam and from the look on her face I knew that this was a brain tumor. We were able to stop seizures, but not the brain tumor, I had to put him down yesterday. I now know that holistic doctors can detox these vaccines out of their systems.

As for heartworm, the meds are nasty but so is the disease. They provide heartworm nosodes that works for some animals but not all. I will spray my other two dogs with natural mosquito repellent instead of giving heartworm, which I have never done with my own dogs but after what happened to Obie, I am taking this disease far more serious. So what happened, I now know that obies liver could not detox and that all the toxins were routed to his brain which in his paticular case was the weakest organ. Toxins generally land on the weakest organs, then you have parasites, fungus, yeast, bacteria. Much like you would see with rotting garbage. Of course, I was not giving the whole truth about obies condition from the start. According to New York Times, one rabie shot should last a lifetime. My philosphy is after these experiences is one set of shots and one rabie, if you have an outdoor dog. MY new pug has hever had one, there are no racoons in my living room, at least I hope not. As for a large dog, that is more tricky, if they bite someone, and there not up to date on rabie, owner could be sued. If you want a healthy pet, stay away from the vet unless it is an emergency. Stay away from corn, diary, gluton and soy, no chemicals at all, supplements also have fillers and binders that dont set well. These expensive vet supplements have them too. There are supplements that are O, K. If you decide to vaccinate, call a holistic vet first, be ready in case you have a reaction to the shot. Most of all old dogs should die from old age, not from heartworm, tumors, seizures etc. Those were the excuses from the previous owner. Her excuse was, he was just an old dog, and she couldnt wait to put him down, as she had been trying for the past year. Each time we blocked it. It was just too inconvient and embarrassing for her. This is still too raw.sorry


Advice for Side Effects: Children's Diphenhydramine  
1 User Reviews | 1 YEA

Posted by Rheeson (Sebring, Fl) on 10/13/2009

[YEA]  We adopted a 6 week old chihuahua, Max(his mom is a rescued miniature chihuahua, father is not known). Max weighs about 2 pounds. His first vaccination was given between 6 and 7 weeks. A friend gave him the 7 in 1 vaccine. After about 4 hours, I noticed swelling on Max's whole neck, and it was very tender (no swelling around his throat). Called a friend who works with a vet, she said to give him children's Diphenhydramine, but wasn't sure of the dosage. I gave Max 1/2 ml of liquid Diphenhydramine, repeated the 1/2 ml dose 3 hours later. I gave him another 1/2 ml dose 4 hours after the 2nd dose. By this time the swelling had gone down some, he seemed to feel better, but I just wanted to be sure he was going to be ok. By morning, the swelling was gone, he still has a little bump where the injection was done, but other than that, he seems fine.


EC: Another name for Children's Diphenhydramine is Children's Benadryl.


Advice for Side Effects: Lemon, Colloidal Silver  
9 User Reviews | 1 YEA

Posted by Carol (Pittsburgh, Pa.) on 12/01/2009

[YEA]  15 years ago and before I thought I was being the good pet owner and getting my dog, a mix Golden X,vaccinations whenever they were needed. Long story short, my dog acquired mast cell cancer from vaccinosis and it developed at the injection site. I did enlist a holistic vet after his vet said he only had 3 months to live. Going totally holistic with treatments, my dog lived a good quality life for 2.5 years thereafter.

I now have 2 Old English Sheepdogs who are naturally reared. They are 9 & 10 currently and have had no chemicals in or on them, are fed a raw diet and have only been to a vet once. They had their puppy shots and that was it until my one dog was diagnosed with a hernia. He had to have an operation and they wouldn't do it until he had a rabies shot. This would be his second in his lifetime. I was reluctant but knew he needed a repair of his hernia. 2 months after that shot, he developed cysts all around his neck area. Sheepdogs are extremely sensitive to shots of any kind and he did puff up at the injection site. I was told by an herbalist to take a slice of lemon and rub it on the site and the puffiness went away. I then began using Colloidal Silver in drops 2x a day on the cysts and in a matter of a week, they burst and were gone and have never returned. They will never get a rabies shot for the life of them. My dogs have never had medications either of any kind. I treat them homeopathically and herbally and they are thriving.


EC: Thank you, Carol! Your feedback has been cross-posted to the Side Effects section on the same page.

Replied by Lucia
Miami, Florida
01/11/2010

Hi....I love the idea of not having to vaccinate my dog, so I wonder how you deal with the fact that it is the law to give them the rabies shot every year. Thank you
Replied by Karen
Deland, Fl
02/14/2010

Here is an interesting article written by a veterinarian in Clearwater, FL....

"The Big Scam: Rabies Vaccination
written by John Fundens, D.V.M.

I would like to give you, the reader, the truth about the so called required vaccinations, particularly rabies. There are two basic forms of law. One is the legal Constitutional and Common law that this country was founded on, and the other is "colorable" law passed by Administrative agencies/bureaucrats who have been given so called authority to pass laws. Black's Law Dictionary 5th Edition defines colorable law as "That which is in appearance only, and not in reality, what purports to be, hence counterfeit, feigned, having the appearance of truth." Yes, I study the law, am a paralegal, and have an extensive law library.

So any and all mandatory rabies vaccination programs are colorable law, in that they have been passed and mandated upon the pet owning public by certain vested interest groups. Who are these groups? First and foremost are veterinarians, in general, and veterinarian medical organizations. Second are the local animal control personnel, bureaucrats and politicians. What are their reasons? GREED, POWER AND CONTROL. Both these large powerful interest groups stand to benefit greatly by having rabies mandated by colorable law.

Veterinarians receive a large percentage of both their gross income and profit from vaccines given in the office. On average vaccines cost 60 to 95 cents per dose and are charged to the client at $15 to $25 per injection and substantially more in the large cities. Therefore, if veterinarians lobby to have a colorable law passed to give rabies vaccine every year that enhances their financial picture.

The veterinary medical societies, by working with other groups and area politicians, are rewarded by increased prestige and professional standing in the community. After all we are protecting you from the dreaded disease rabies, whether it exists or not. Some areas of the country are more enlightened and fortunate to have the rabies vaccine mandated every three years. You can be assured the rise of rabies is never taken into account as to whether the vaccine should be required or not. More on this later. The local government personnel benefit by extending more control over our lives, enriching the public treasury with fees, tags and fines, and giving the appearance that local government is doing something about animal populations, disease and risks to the public. Since rabies vaccines have been mandated, what county or area has seen less dog and cat bites, better animal control, more public awareness and educating of pet owning responsibility, better birth control of unwanted animals, less euthanasia of animals and decreased growth of animal control facilities?

These special groups and lobbies will use any argument, realistic or not, to justify their position. They are excellent at using the media to spread the lies and distortions. Examples: We have increased numbers of dogs biting people, pitbulls attacking and killing children are on the increase, more dogs and cats are running loose terrorizing neighborhoods, killing wildlife and other domestic stock, etc...ad nausaem. The only thing rabies vaccination is for is the protection from rabies virus, all other justifiers for the vaccine fall under human control and exist because there are a certain number of humans, connected to animals, who are irresponsible. Rabies is spread by the bite of an infected animal. The number of dog/cat bite cases in the U.S. that expose humans to rabies is as rare as shark attacks. This low incident rate has nothing to do with mandatory vaccination as the number of cases was low before the mandatory requirement.

Let me give you an example of Pinellas County, FL where my Affinity Clinic is located. I secured information from Pinellas Animal Control through the Freedom of Information Act. The record of animal control starts in 1964. From 1964 to 1978 there were zero cases of dog rabies in the county. Magically in 1978 rabies vaccine was mandated to be given every year and all dogs tagged and licensed. WHY? Well it seems four veterinarians, with animal control bureaucrats, pushed the county board of supervisors to pass a law mandating rabies vaccination every year. There were three local vets and one professor from the State Veterinary College who were behind this. It was interesting reading their letters pushing this law and the minutes of the county meeting. There was talk of dogs biting people (no actual figures given), dogs running loose, animal overpopulation, rabies on the increase in the U.S. (the increase was in wildlife, not dogs), etc.,etc. Not once was the issue discussed that there was no rabies in the county in dogs. To this date there still has not been one case of dog rabies, including the population of dogs whose owners, GOD BLESS THEM, do not vaccinate for rabies. Let's go further.

From 1964 to 1989 there were no cases of rabies in cats in Pinellas County. Magically in 1989 a law was passed mandating rabies vaccination, tags and licenses for all cats. Same tired worn out excuses were used. Since the 1989 law there was one cat with rabies contracted from the bite of a bat. DO YOU READERS REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE JUST STATED? This is standard throughout the Country. No allowance is made for dogs/cats who never leave the house or yard, could never be exposed to rabies under any circumstances, or who are so ill, old or at the end of their life cycle that the rabies vaccine would throw them over the edge. No, all dogs and cats are treated the same because we have the bogeyman, rabies, stalking the streets waiting to strike unprotected dogs and cats.

Is there rabies in this Country? You bet. Are there areas of this Country that have rabies in their wildlife population and do some dogs/cats become infected? You bet. But let's be realistic. Rabies has been on this earth long before man walked here and will be here long after we are gone. The only way to get rid of rabies is to remove mankind and the upper animals susceptible to the virus. Then maybe the virus will die off. It is a self limiting disease in the wild as it is fatal. So the virus has an extremely hard time spreading far and wide.

What is wrong with targeting those areas of the Country that have a problem with rabies using a realistic and specially formulated program that will protect the population at risk? Too logical and the special groups don't make any money. Why not educate the pet owner to the risks and dangers and let them decide whether the immune system damage from rabies vaccination is greater or lesser than contracting the disease. We do have a God given Constitutionally secured right to LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. Public health officials always have the right to mandate emergency health care procedures in case the public, in general does not respond properly. But why should every day, month and year be as if an emergency or crisis exists? And why should we have more and more control of our lives taken from us?

The vaccines, particularly rabies, are a political and economic scam being forced upon pet owners because they do not know the truth. Rabies, nationwide, is nowhere near the problem the veterinarians, media, politicians and bureaucrats would like you to believe. If you wish more of the truth go to your local city or county government building and look up the codes and statutes concerning vaccines and rabies. Get figures from local animal control for rabies in dogs, cats and wildlife in your area. Then you can start to fight back, take control of your life, and protect your pet from the only dreaded disease that is important--special interest groups pushing their program leading to vaccine induced damaged immune systems. Only you can set yourself free.

Current Veterinary Therapy by Kirk, the textbook bible for veterinarians in general, has an article on canine and feline vaccines by two researchers. Near the end of the article is a paragraph called Annual Vaccinations. It states "The practice of annual vaccinations lacks scientific validity or verification. There is no immunological requirement for annual vaccinations. The practice of annual vaccinations should be considered of questionable efficacy unless it is used as a mechanism to provide an annual physical examination or is required by law." Sure, if we can't manipulate you with annual vaccinations let's pass a law to get you into the office. Nice trick!

Well reader, it is your choice. I can only hope to stimulate you to look and go further. You don't have to take this suppression. Fight back. The only thing you have to lose is your freedom and you have already lost a great deal of it. I can fight with you but I can't do it alone."

Replied by Kim
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
08/26/2010

Lucia, In Fort Lauderdale you can request the rabies shot that is good for three years versus doing it annually. Hopefully, the same option is available in Miami ask your vet or call the Humane Society.
Replied by Isabelle
Garden Grove, Ca Usa
08/28/2010

Hi Lucia! Look for a vet who is working with alternative methods like acupuncture and homeopathy and talk to him about it. Sometime they can get a waver depending of the situation. That what I do in california. Good luck!
Replied by Leann
Lake Bluff, I, Usa
11/27/2010

Please everyone, do not do the 3-year rabies shot for your beloved pet! Last year our vet recommended the 3-year to save us time from doing the yearly shot. We went ahead and did it for our 8 year old, 90 LB mountain dog/collie rescue. At first, we didn't see any major reactions to the new shot other than the normal sessions of seasonal allergies resulting in swollen nodes that a healthy dose of antibiotics would resolve. These allergies and resulting skin infections were a lot more frequent since doing the shot, but we didn't think it was out of the norm, nor did the vet.

Seven months later, we brought the dog in for allergies and swollen lymph nodes. Tests were taken and came back positive for lymphoma, which has no cure in the canine world. Incidentally, the cancer arose in the area that the shot was administered. Until getting involved in the canine cancer community in an attempt to treat and get a few more months with our dog, I made the discovery that many dogs faced with similar cancer diagnosis had owners that were doing the 3-year or even the yearly shots. We feel terrible that we put our beloved dog through the unnecessary multiple shots year after year. Vets commonly will give several shots at once, which puts a lot of undue stress on your dog's body. Humans get shots when they are little and as adults don't get a bunch more. If you are going to give your pet shots, please consider doing it in their early years and after doing a "blood titer test" to see if the vaccine levels in the dog's body are still acceptable. (They usually are for many years after). I believe the blood test costs more than the shots, but losing your pet to illnesses related to over-vaccinating them is worse.

Additionally, you should also be reading the label on commercial pet food to make sure that it doesn't contain "meat by-products. " I've researched and found that there wasn't a lot of regulation of the pet food market until recently. Meat by-products are things like chicken beaks, feathers, euthanized animals or rotting carcasses sold for rendering into pet food. Some companies have come out in response to not using by-products, and changing out their food to healthy meats like we would eat. Maybe I'm a little skewed because our dog has cancer, but in finding out some of the sources it can come from, we do have some choices.

In most areas, titer tests are acceptable to pass the annual rabies vaccination requirement and receive the tags. Your vet will have to test the blood and then put it into writing that your pet has acceptable levels of the vaccine in their system and provide this to the local ordinance to receive the tags. I've contacted several vets and found there are quite a few out there that do the titering because they do not recommend over-vaccinating through an animal's entire life because the vaccines stay in their systems for so long. Hope this helps someone.

Replied by Ashley
Modesto, Ca
01/18/2012

Just so everyone is clear, the 3 year rabies vaccine is actually the exact same as the 1 year vx. Through research vets realized that the vaccine actually stayed in the system working for longer, therefore they extended the time it is good for.
Replied by Megan
Horseheads Ny
11/19/2013

A natural vet just told me that in the awful state of NY that even here you can get a letter to not vac your dog. She does't get hers done. However it's all or none in NY so I won't be able to get out of it for my dogs. but the next ones I will. Course I will be in NC by then out of this awful state!
Replied by Theresa Donate

Mpls., Mn
11/19/2013

Hey Megan!

The *only* vaccination required by law in NY and all other states is Rabies. You are not required by law to vaccinate for anything else, however boarding kennels may have a policy requirement that your pet have the standard vaccinations and kennel cough prior to accepting your business.

Most states DO have a rabies exemption or waiver IF vaccinating the animal with the rabies vaccine will endager or adversely affect the pet's health or life. The waiver can only be obtained with a written letter from a licensed veterinarian.

Link for NY Rabies law: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/AGM/7/109


Advice for Side Effects: Medications  
2 User Reviews | 1 BETTER BUT NOT CURED

Posted by Val (San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico) on 12/01/2009

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  My 21 mo old 6 lb Female Papillon developed allergy symptoms, gastric problems, and some nervous, paranoid and insecure behavior soon after receiving a SQ rabies vaccine in her right shoulder. Symptoms were mild to begin with but worsened over the next several weeks. We initially treated with Children's Benadryl 12 mg orally TID. 5 weeks after being vaccinated, at the vaccine site she developed a large area of alopecia (2" wide by 3" long and appears to still be increasing in size) which is quite large for such a small dog. We started treating with Temeril-P 1 Tab BID and decreasing dose. She's near completion with her with the Temeril-P and has just started Pentoxifylline therapy o.25 ml BID (120 mg/ml). My Vet had it compounded into a liquid, due to the fact that it only comes in a non dividable time released coated caplet at the pharmacies. The gastric upset and itching has improved, though she is still foot licking and face rubbing. This is an extremely beautiful, well bred show dog, and beloved friend. I'm concerned about long term effects, and of the alopecia increasing in area and possibly affecting her beautiful ears and face. Anything more I can do to help insure she recovers completely?

Replied by Goldencat
Akron, OH
10/02/2013

It's been 4 years since the original post... Hope you check back!

I have had amazing results with switching to a raw food diet with my Ocicats and Siamese. Cystitis, dermatitis, feline herpes...gone.

There are raw prepared diets for dogs too, or you can find a good recipe by a pet nutritionist online/in a pet health book. Be aware your vet will almost certainly try to tell you it is bad, that domestic animals shouldn't or can't eat raw meat, etc.

KEY: meat prepared for pets as raw diet is cleaner than that sold for human use, because they assume it will be cooked! Ugh! Don't worry about parasites and germs from such diets. If you make your own, you'll need to add a disinfectant like GSE (grapefruit seed extract) to the meat to avoid contaminants permitted in people food. I use 3 drops in a little (maybe 1/4 cup or more) filtered water, per pound ground meat for my cats. It's ok for the food to be wet. Prey would be very juicy, right?

Option: feed a grain free, top line food like Wilderness, or Spot Stew. Add essential fatty acids to the diet for her skin and nerves.

If nerves persist, 1) a thunder shirt. 2) Bach's Rescue Remedy (a few drops in a gallon of water is fine - dilution is ok ONCE for the energy medicine to still work) Don't dilute it twice. Fizzle...

Last resort... Seek out a homeopath that can use the nosode for vaccinosis (vaccine reaction) on your dog. IDK the protocol. I do know "vaccinosis" is the condition you want treated... So a human vaccinosis nosode might be ok - ask a homeopath. Otherwise you will have to peel away the symptoms, a remedy at a time, under homeopath guidance: say, if she fits an Arsenicum profile, or a Chamomilla profile, see?


Advice for Side Effects: Multiple Remedies  
4 User Reviews | 1 BETTER BUT NOT CURED

Posted by Leenott (Edmonton, Ab, Canada) on 09/25/2011

Hi,

I have 3 little dogs which will have to have a TOTALLY unnecessary Rabies shot before they will be allowed back into Australia. They had a Rabies shot last year in October and will have to have another as AQIS (Australian Quarantine) demands that the shot be within ONE year of them entering Australia.

I am VERY concerned the effect this will have as 2 of them are elderly.

WHERE can I get Lyssin and/or Thuja ? I am not getting very far searching through Google for homeopaths. I found an online company which will make up a remedy for $45 EACH!!!!

Thank you,

Beverley N


Posted by Zuzana (Tweed Coast, NSW, Australia) on 06/16/2009

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  Allergic Skin reaction as a result of C4 vaccine in dogs :

I have recently got a puppy at 8 weeks old, wo had his first combination vaccine at age 7 weeks, distemper, parvo and hepatitis. As someone who didn't want to expose my puppy to unneccesary vaccines, I chose to only give 1 more vaccine at 12 weeks. 10 days later my puppy broke out in a rash with his hair sticking up causing little bumps all over his back. He is on a fully natural raw diet, has had no contact to any new plants or allergens that I can think of, and I believe the vaccine has caused his immune system to weaken. I gave him a remedy of Thuja, as well as Apis to relieve the itching, which seemed to help. The following day I also gave an activated charcoal tablet and sprayed ACV on his skin. Within 5 days I saw a noticable improvement. I continued the same diet, also adding in ACV, flaxseed oil, garlic and kelp. 2 weeks later he had another itchy rash come up, this time starting on his belly and sides, seemingly effecting the parts of his skin where it had previously not been. I have succesfully treated the very red raw rash on his belly with the same treatments as above, but am still battling the remaining parts on his sides which he keeps itching. I am convinced this is a result of the vaccine and I hope to build his immune system to overcome these reactions and never vaccinate him again. Just in case this may help anyone with similar problems.

Replied by Debi
Irvine, Ca
08/10/2013

I have the same problem with my little t cup yorkie. He received vacines because we travel between the US and Canada. After receiving his rabies vacine both my yorkies develped big time allergies. I have tried everything. The only thing that will work is Atopica (Drug) of course. I'm so bummed that everything I ever tried never worked on the itching. The doctor freaked out on me telling me I was mean to let him get so red and itchy. Well I was trying to not use Big Pharma and destroy his liver. Does anyone out there have an answer to detox the vaccine out of his body? I will never vaccinate a dog ever again and I bet I will never have another skin problem again.
Replied by Debbiefudge
Brighton Uk
08/18/2013

Change diet to raw feeding. Give DE (Food grade only) in probiotic yogurt. Give a tiny amount of raw garlic daily. Bath in baby shampoo. After last rinse. Mix half white vinegar/half water. Soak every area and leave to dry. Once a week. Put same mixture in a spray bottle and spray on hot spots twice daily.

Advice for Side Effects: Nosodes  

Posted by Emily (Goodyear, AZ) on 02/06/2009

Pet & Human Vaccinations: I was doing research for alternatives to vaccinating my son and found many vets using Nosodes instead of traditional vaccinations. Here is a quickie Wikipedia explanation of Nosodes:

"Nosodes are homeopathic remedies that are made from the specific products of a particular disease. This can be tissue containing the actual disease agents or tissue affected by those agents. Sometimes nosodes are made from vaccines containing the organisms. The nosodes are prepared in a diluted and potentized form just like all other homeopathic medicine. There is no potential for an animal to become infected with a given disease agent from a nosode because of the pharmaceutical process that occurs which dilutes and inactivates any viable organisms."

Anyhow, I continued my search to see if they can be used on people as well and found a local doctor who prepared all of the vaccinations my son needs. If you are looking for an alternative for your pet or baby, check out Nosodes.


EC: More information about Nosodes here: http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/nosodes.htm

Replied by Dianna
Austin, Tx
02/06/2009

thank you for this info! my chihuahua is VERY chemical sensitive and i have been afraid to even think about getting him vaccinated. i will look into this option.djh
Replied by Goldencat
Akron, Oh
10/02/2013

One correction/clarification: nosodes are homeopathic remedies. Like all such remedies, there is no pathogen present, the principle being used is "energetic medicine", not chemical pharmacy medicine. The energy signature of the item/substance is used as the therapeutic agent. The dilution of the source substance is infinitesimal, beyond pharmacologically active levels. The titration, or shaking of the dilution activated the energetic principle. This is why there is no possibility of drug interaction. If you take a pellet of Lachesis 100x, for example, you did not put Bushmaster venom in your mouth - you took the energy into your own energy field. The body says "hey! I'm already cranky and lethargic, with bad circulation! " (effects of said venom) And the body sort of cancels out those symptoms.

Hope that helps understand homeopathy.

There simply are no germs in the nosodes. Oscillococcinum is a duck virus based flu remedy sold OTC. Nobody gets flu from it. Ok?


Advice for Vaccination Side Effects  
40 User Reviews | 1 YEA | 4 SIDE EFFECTS | 1 DEATH REPORTED

Posted by Carolyn Guzzi (Tampa, Florida) on 04/19/2014

[DEATH REPORTED]  My cat has a death sentence today because of a cancer caused by vaccinations called fibroscarcoma...i have had this cat when he was a kitten 1 month and had him for 9 years this month...he was limping and had a lump on his shoulder..it went a way but then it came back with a force. It was small and not it is as big as the palm of my hand...he cant walk he eats very little...and I am devastated by this mess...and somebody needs to be responsible for doing this to this cat...getting all these shots for nothing rabies/FIV/FLiv/ and kitten shots fine but not every single month even my new vet doctor said u dont need every year shots especially if he is a indooor cat...every 3 years most if any does he need any shots especially if he is an indoor cat...! The pet food is crap with all the dead animals in the food when these shelters kill animals...with all the additives that will kill these pets and addition heartworm medicine such as revelution medication for fleas/ticks/heartworm med...hum if you get heartworm they are done. There is no cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As well having the shots for your cat and heartworm medication revelutions together is a deadly for any animals dog/puppy or cat/kitten....do your homework, it is vital DO NOT GIVE SHOTS ALL AT ONCE TO YOUR PET DOG OR CAT...ONE AT A TIME IF THEY NEED IT...DOG & CATS ARE VERY DIFFERENT! Do your homework...do not rely on what they tell you; they are all in it for the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Ritata (Price, Ut) on 05/01/2012

[SIDE EFFECTS]  My Chorkie had a horrible reaction to his Rabies/portadello...almost lost him! Living 5 miles from the vet I was just blocks from our home when max started FLIPPING all over the floor of the car. My first reaction was that his harness was pinching him. I pulled over, removed the harness, and at that time he started struggling with his breathing... His tongue was hanging out and he just went limp. I ran into the house (carrying this little 6 lb. Dog who is having a hard time breathing) called the vet and they told me to get him back out there quickly! Now his face is swelling and he is really gasping for air as we get back to the vets. They gave him a pill because they were afraid to give him another shot! I've never gone back for is booster.


Posted by Jr (Coloma, Mi) on 07/25/2011

Because of the "Law" I am being forced to give my dog a rabies shot. I have been working with a homeopathic woman to help my Lab get better. Most of her problems are from over medication and vaccination. The homeopathic woman said that if I get my dog a rabies shot she will not work with me anymore and the dog will backslide. I just feel trapped between a rock and a hard place. Does anyone know of anything homeopathic or otherwise that I can give my dog to counteract the rabies shot?

Replied by Debbie
Gainesville, Fl
08/26/2011

Yes, there is an alternative. I'm surprised your homeopathic practitioner didn't mention it. There are homeopathic preparations called nosodes that are made from the pathogens they target. There is a rabies nosode. However, our governments don't recognize it as an effective alternative to the vaccine, although it is very much so. Therefore, they won't let vets issue rabies certificates based on administration of the nosode. If you cannot get the nosode and if you need the rabies certificate, then you will have to get the regular vaccination. Be sure that your dog is strong and healthy. The rules for vaccination clearly state that only healthy animals need be vaccinated. Check on that. When he's ready, prepare him by starting him on Zeolite enhanced with DHQ (available online. ) Continue the zeolite until the bottle is empty. Your homeopath should not be so difficult about this. Yes, there will be a set back but you can minimize it with zeolite and homeopathics (Thuja, usually. )

Also, educate yourself about veterinary homeopathy by getting Dr. Pitcairns complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats, especially the section on vaccinations. Dr. Pitcairn pioneered veterinary homeopathy in the U. S. I hope you get this info in time.


Posted by Mama (London, Ontario) on 09/17/2010

Earth clinic readers with pets I need your HELP!!! My 8mth old chihuahua nipped someone who approached our house, and she complained to the authorities and he didn't have a rabies shot!! We were not planning on giving him one do to the horrors I have read about what they can do to destroy a dogs health. But now because of the complaint (and she wasn't hurt either) we are forced to. I can't even imagine letting someone put those horrible toxins and the RABIES VIRUS into my little puppy who is so healthy. Even here on EC I read about the health problems that quickly arise after the rabies shot!! He's SO healthy and I'm worried!! Can anyone out there recommend something I can give him to help prevent and reverse the damage to his immune system that WILL occur (even if not noticeable from the outside)after the poisonous shot??? Is there something I can do before?? His shot will be on the 5th of sept. Thanks, Mama

Replied by Msanders4
Phoenix, Arizona
09/24/2010

When my dog was sick I asked the Vet to write a letter saying my dog couldn't get the rabies shot. There is a book with info on products you can get that will help detox your dog before and after the shot.

Posted by Jet (Melbourne, Victoria Australia) on 09/02/2010

I have a English Staffordshire Bull Terrier that has had two petit mal seizures that I know of. He has had his yearly booster shots every year and he is 5 years old. Should I stop the booster shots and I also give him "Advocate" for flea tick and heartworm or should I stop this as well. He had a blood test done when he had his first seizure and the vet said everything is fine. I feed him home cooked meals (kangaroo meat with pasta and green peas) and dry food "Holistic Select Dog Food - Duck Meal & Oatmeal Formula" any advice would be appreicated. Thank You for your time.


Posted by Carrie (Manchester, Ct) on 08/30/2010

[SIDE EFFECTS]  I bought a rescue puppy at 4 months of age. When I bought her, she seemed perfectly healthy. Stools were normal - she had energy and seemed very healthy. I took her to the vet for her check up and to clear her for any issues. She had a small ear infection which was cleared up easily enough with an ear cleaning and drops, and the vet recommended I give her Lyme vaccination. I was reluctant, but the vet convinced me it was necessary. So, she got her Lyme vaccine. I was due to go in a week later for her 5 in 1 vaccine which included Parvo. I saw another vet that day due to the one who originally gave her the vaccinations not being available. He gave her the 5 in 1 vaccine, and he injected her with ANOTHER Lyme vaccine. He told me it was Lyme as he was injecting her. I told him that she already had her Lyme vaccine last week and she wasn't due for her second for 2 more weeks. He looked perplexed, pulled the needle out, and didn't charge me for the vaccine. He didn't even put it on the bill that he GAVE her any Lyme vaccine. The very next day, my dog had terrible mucus filled diarrhea. HORRIBLE. She became dehydrated, despite me giving her water orally via a syringe, and so 2 days later I took her back to the vet. They gave me a prescription for the possibility of worms even though her feces showed no worms, and gave my antibiotics in case she had an infection in her intestines. Her poo got better. Markedly better. Normal! I felt much better. 4 days ago, her prescription ran its course. 3 days ago, her poo was fine. 2 days ago, it started getting softer, but still formed a normal shape. Yesterday, it was extremely soft. Pudding like. I began feeding her a bland diet, and added a little canned pumpkin in there for added fiber. Last night, her feces were extremely soft, and I knew I was in for a sleepless night. I was up almost all night with her, taking her out several times to poo. Her poo got much worse throughout the night until around 5am it was total mush. She is once again quiet, and I am force feeding her water. I made an appointment with the vet and her appointment is at 3:40pm. Although, I'm taking her to the same vet office I believe made her sick in the first place. I'm seriously considering taking her somewhere different. What should I do?? I really need help to make my puppy healthy, but I feel lost as there is no diagnoses for her issues, at least thus far.

Replied by Isabella
Raleigh, North Carolina
08/30/2010

Carrie - I don't have any suggestions but my heart goes out to you! Please post again and advise how your baby is doing.
Replied by Mama
London, Ontario, Canada
09/20/2010

Look into h202 and the oneminutecure.com and read about how it cures everything! I had the same stool issue with my dog - did the h202 and he cleared up in only a few days!! I just put 5 drops of 35% into his water bowel and re-did that every time it emptied. All the best to ya!! DON'T EVER VACCINATE YOUR PET FOR ANYTHING!!! LET ITS OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM WORK FOR IT, IT WILL WORK BETTER THAN ALL THAT POISONOUS CRAP!!
Replied by Bb
Atlanta, Ga Usa
10/16/2010

Food grade H2O2 is great. I use it myself. Also chlorella & thuja is good for clearing the system.
Replied by Ruth
Runcorn, Cheshirer, Uk
09/07/2011

Take your puppy to another vets. I know when my dog Charlie was a puppy, a trainee vet gave him one of the first vaccinations and he couldn't eat, drink, kept throwing up, shaking and was limp. I called the same vets up and they were like oh it's a side effect and wears off in an hour but it wasn't the case. We rang up again an hour later and they were like "there's nothing we can do. " And inferred he has some natural selection form of illness that meant he died as a puppy but that night, we took him to an emergency vet on call in Liverpool, a vet of the same chain as the first, and miraculously, as I was crying my heart out and my dad was mad at the first vets, all this vet did was inject him with some form of pain killer or anti-biotics and he was literally fine after ten minutes.

Posted by Julie (Coventry, England) on 07/16/2010

I own and run an extremely successful hydrotherapy pool for dogs. This means over the period of 14 years I have treated thousands of dogs. Very many, including my previous dog, Monty, have suffered many and numerous side effects from over vaccination. These range from weakness in legs, auto-immune diseases, such as arthritis, skin complaints with rashes and skin turning black, hot spots, hair loss, nerve damage and brain damage. I, amongst, a growing number, including a long list of alternative vets in England, believe dogs do not need vaccines throughout their lives. When I realised my beloved Monty was vaccine damaged, I had teeter tests performed, this shows the anti bodies in the dogs blood. Every year Monty had high levels of resistance to parvo, distemper, para-influenza & distemper. The test does not show lepto. I believe you should wait till puppy is 12 weeks, so the immune system is better able to cope, before giving vaccines and after the initial 2 sets, 2 weeks apart, then they are protected for life. No flea or tick treatments either they are another form of toxins our dogs systems can do without. Go with your instinct on all matters concerning your dog and remember to question always. . . Whose interest is it in. . Your dogs or your vets.

Replied by Catherine
Seattle, Washington
07/16/2010

My vet told me that you cannot run a titer for rabies, but you can for most other vaccinations. Is this true? I wonder why you can't? I did have my golden retriever's levels also tested (except for rabies) and she too had high levels of resistance after 3 years of not having any shots. However, I did give her a 3 years rabies shot. I am thinking she won't need another one again.
Replied by Lisa
Wichita Falls, Tz
07/16/2010

Julie, I agree! My little chihuahua mix is over 11 years old now and He has not had vaccines in years because he would get sick for days when he got the rabies. I am scared of the stuff! Think about it, every year people put so much stuff into the bodies of their pets. And, you hear alot of animals getting cancer and all kinds of things. People don't do this to them selves so, why do they do it to their pets every year?Little bodies cannot handle all of the bad stuff that is put into them like that! ! Just my opinion. . .
Replied by Rainman
Central, Vt, Usa
07/19/2010

Catherine. . . Rabies titers absolutely exist. In fact, I think most dogs have to have this done before they can be transported to another country. If your vet is saying there isn't a titer. . . You need to find a new vet.
Replied by Noelle
Ne
02/19/2015

Our city limits require a rabies vaccination or else you get a nasty-gram from the Humane Society. Three strikes and you can no longer own pets. Anyway, that being said, I get a rabies titer every year for my dachshund. He has chronic pancreatitis and the rabies titer is allowed in lieu of a current vaccination.


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