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Is it Safe to use Lugol's for HYPERthroidism? if so what is the dosage and how is it administered?
My mother has it and currently takes the following supliments:
Also her face is a Lil puffy and her hands. I read somewhere on here where someone said that was also a condition. I've read so many post about hyperthyroidism I'm getting confused. Some say it works but only temporarily and should not be used unless it for Pre-Op surgery to remove the thyroid. Then there is the post under Thyroid remedies quoted here: "04/18/2008: Jan from Buffalo, NY writes: "Lugol's cure for Hyperthyroidism. 2 years ago I went to the doctor for fast pulse rate. Resting it was 105 to 110 bpm. He sent me to an endocrinologist who recommended the radioactive pill approach to killing the thyroid. I asked him about Iodine. He was very specific about how dangerous it would be to treat it with Iodine. I went home and ordered a bottle of Lugol's from the internet and three days later having taken doses for 3 days, my pulse rate was below 75 and the swollen throat had subsided. "
I Googled Lugol's cure for hyperthyroidism and only got links to that post. Nothing showing what the Lugol's cure is dosage wise and how to administer it. There is one post about using POTASSIUM IODIDE and they are asking what I'm asking. Any help would be appreciated and THANKS in advance from the thousands of HYPERthyroidsim sufferers who search this site in need of help.
Organic Health from New York, New York. Happy New year to all! @Ted From Bangkok, Thailand
In my studies on problems with the thyroid on the internet I came across an interesting discovery by The Iodine Project, which is an independent foundation whose only purpose is to research and update the benefits of iodine on the human body.
Their newest piece of research indicates that there is more to the reasons for thyroid problems than just being low on daily iodine intake, with flouride or bromide as the causative factors.
What Dr Abraham and his team have found out from the Iodine Project is that significant thyroid problems can also arise from poor absorbtion and poor transport of iodine throughout the human body. As a remedy, they conclude that large dose Vitamin C, when taken with Iodine supplementation(Lugol's Iodine or Iodoral), greatly enhances iodine absorbtion in the intestine and greatly increases the transport efficiency of iodine throughout the human body. Their research also indicates that taking Lugol's and Vitamin C in this manner for about 6 months resets and completely heals the absorbtion pathway and transport mechanisms back to normal.
Here is the detailed research by the iodine project on the efficacy of using Vitamin C together with Lugol's Iodine:
The way I have always taken lugol's is with 1000-3000 mgms Ascorbic Acid powder dissolved in a glass of water, with two drops(12. 5 mgs) of 5% lugol's iodine solution added to it. Then I add 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Sodium Bicarbonate to convert the Ascorbic Acid to Ascorbate and add a little extra sodium bicarbonate to make the mixture more alkaline(increases the ORP factor beneficially). Taking iodine this way also eliminates the iodine taste and has the added benefit of converting some of the Vitamin C to Dehydroascorbic acid. This chemical has exactly the same benefits and properties as Ascorbic acid except Dehydroascorbic acid is able to penetrate the blood/brain barrier whereas ascorbic cannot penetrate this barrier unless it is combined with your body's glutathione -- a very precious and otherwise useful bodily antioxidant.
Also worth mentioning is that Ted from Bangkok has always advocated taking lugol's with Vitamin C in this manner.
Another added and enhancing idea if you take the Iodine with Vit C for thyroid problems is to also take Magnesium(500mgs/day of Mag Chloride, Mag Citrate or Mag Gluconate) and Selenium(200microgms/day) supplements as well. Magnesium is used as a co-enzyme that helps to store iodide as iodine in the thyroid gland(low Magnesium also reduces the T4 count) and research indicates that selenium is essential for converting T4 into the more active T3 hormone as well as in helping to regenerate the Vitamin C.
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Posted by Shiloh (Escondido, Ca, California) on 09/29/2010
Hello Earth Clinic, what a wonderful, informitive site this is. I love it. I found this website about 5 months ago and have been on reading everyday. This is the first time I have done a post, and I am in much need of some help.
My husband was told by our Dr. That his thyroid was not working (hypothyroid). I don't know the blood level, but the Dr. Put him on 4.05 (50 mcg) of Levodthyroid. He went back for a second test in June and it showed no improvement, his blood count was still at 5.24, so the medicine was increased to 75. At this time I asked him to try the iodine instead. My husband is 58 yrs, 6'1, and weighs 270 lbs. I bought some Iodine at the health food store, and it was recommended by the employee she said she used it and it was great. The bottle said "Ionic Minerals" liquid concentrate, it said use two or more drops a day. I had my husband take 3 drops 2 times a day. He also took four kelp tabs and two vit. C.
Posted by Shiloh (Escondido, California) on 09/29/2010
Hi to everyone at Earth Clinic, I found this web site about four months ago and I love it. I am in need of some opinions. My husband was told that his thyroid wasn't working and the Dr. put him on Levothyroxine, 50 mcg. He went back for a second check and his thyroid was still a 5.24. So the Dr. wanted to up the medicine to 75.
At this time I asked my husband to try the iodine instead. I bought some at the health food store. The label said "Ionic Minerals" liquid concentrate. My husand is 58 yrs, 6'1'and 270lbs. I put him on 3 drops twice a day. Plus four kelp tabs, and 2 vit. C. Well after a month he went back for his third check and his blood level went from the 5.24 to 8.49- needless to say I think I screwed up. The Dr. insists on him coming in to see him because of the dramatic spike, I guesss I will go with him, get a butt chewing and then find out where I went wrong. Does any one have any ideas for me? I do believe I am on the right track, either his thyroid was really out of whack so that the iodine wouldn't have helped, or that 30 days was not long enough for the iodine to work, or I wasn't giving him enough for his size. At any rate some of your ideas would be helpful before I have to face the fiddler.
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Posted by Gr (London, Uk) on 01/22/2010
Thyroid Peroxidase Antibody
I recently did the blood test for thyroid and my Thyroid Peroxidase Antibody count is 869 which is very high. The normal count is 0-60... I have not been to my GP yet to discuss this but what does it mean...I have already started taking Lugol's iodine solution... will this help? Apart from this I have Beta thalassaemi trait and also suffer from Iron-deficiency anaemia... I have palpitations & breathlessness... I am really very scared... please please help.... Thank you...
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Posted by Cari (Clinton, Missouri) on 08/03/2009
hello- i am just starting to treat an enlarged thyroid. i have ordered lugal's but do i have to take it with apple cider vinegar? I do not like apple cider vinegar so i am hoping that this is not a requirement. is iodoral better than lugal's? how do i get my enlarged thyroid to shrink back to normal? can i paint my neck area (as i am feeling swollen) with lugal's. i am not allergic to iodine. ironically, my holistic physician has never mentioned iodine deficiency. thank you. Cari
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Posted by Margaret Brooks (Amarillo, TX USA) on 04/18/2009
After reading all of the remedies used for hypothyroid problems, I am confused. I would appreciate a recommendation on iodine usage. Suggestions here seem to be about even for Iodoral, Lugel's Iodine, and Sea Kelp. I just bought some Kelp(660mg) today so I will start with that in any case, but I'm not sure how much to take.
Another question I have is, would it be harmful to take the Kelp in conjunction with using EVCO? I've been suffering from this EXTREME fatigue for so long, and have just determined that thyroid is my problem so I'm anxious for quick results, but don't want to throw my hormones even further out of balance.
I love EarthClinic and have recommended it to many people. Thank you for being the resource we need in the world of medical ignorance that exists in the U.S.
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Posted by Nicole (Stanton, CA) on 12/23/2008
I am hoping you will start a new supplements section on iodine. Also another section on maybe causes of ailments, like fluoride and the problems it causes. Here is my story about fluoride, iodine, and thyroid....
I first noticed my husbands goiter close to 6 months ago, at that time it had become quite noticeable and was indeed very large. Obviously concerned for his health he went to see his doctor, who referred him to an endocrinologist, who then referred him to a surgeon. Strangely enough they told him his blood levels were normal and he didn't have a thyroid condition.... interesting since he has this giant goiter on his neck. lol
At the time there was so little that I knew about thyroid disease and I didn't have much interest in it, I was concerned for my husband but thought that surgery was the only option. Then my husband began to have panic attacks after my daughter was born, and at home no less (I now understand it to also cause and fluctuation of the thyroid hormone)! I honestly thought it was a mind over matter and went searching online to prove that he just needed to stop scaring himself. Instead what I found was that his panic attacks were actually caused by the goiter. Because I had my daughter at home without a midwife, just me him and my mother (planned it that way ; ) I had already learned a few natural remedies, while looking up honey and the wonderful benefits of it I also learned of coconut oil, though I only learned about it being good for pimples. I was interested in purchasing some coconut oil online and that's when I found some of the most amazing information. The site selling it said it helped with thyroid conditions, I wasn't going to believe them, after all they were selling it they would say anything to sell their product right? So I looked up thyroid forums and testimonies regarding the use of coconut oil and sure enough I found out that it was indeed beneficial to his thyroid. Well I ran out to the store and bought some the next day, in the car my husband was exhausted and began to have a panic attack and I told him to take some coconut oil, he only had a 1/4 of a teaspoon and ten minutes later his attack had subsided and he felt energized! After this experiment, we continued treatment and slowly worked up to 3tblspns a day where he's at now. After that revelation and since we had his attacks under control (and in fact after taking it for a week he no longer even experienced an attack) I went back online to find out what we needed to do to shrink his goiter. That's when I learned about iodine and how important it is and how many people are deficient and thus many are hypothyroid and even still many are undiagnosed with hypothyroidism. I also learned about what counteracts iodine, like soy which is a big one since it is in just about all prepackaged foods. When I found out how important iodine was for the thyroid and how the thyroid makes hormones for your whole body I became interested in what else iodine deficiency was responsible for, And do you know what I found? Lots! Here is a sight that lists all the symptoms of iodine deficiency...
But first, after realizing that my husbands thyroid was caused by a change in his diet, I began racking my brain thinking of what on earth has changed over the past year. I've been trying to figure it out for the past couple months and today I found it.
During our big change to all, well almost all, things healthy, I remembered reading about people using toothpaste that doesn't have fluoride in it.. I looked online for the reason why and WOW, what I found is shocking! Fluoride also counteracts iodine, it inhibits the uptake of iodine to your thyroid and we both know (at least by now) how important adequate amounts of iodine are to your thyroid. So I told my sister about it and she said that she didn't think we had fluoridated water, so I searched for the cities that had it in OC and that's when I came across this article ( http://www.ocregister.com/article/water-fluoride-county-1924513-muir-doctors ). I told my sister what I'd found out and how the time they added fluoride pretty much coincided with the onset of my husbands goiter and the worsening of his thyroid (I believe he has been hypothyroid for a long time as have I and my mother based on the symptoms) and my sister said that she has experienced a worsening of her asthma over the past year!
I am interested in asking friends of mine who have symptoms of iodine deficiency whether they experienced and increase or decrease in their symptoms over the last year (without divulging anything till they have answered so that my findings are not biased) I will report back later with some of my findings, but I am interested if anyone else has experienced similar problems after their area had been fluoridated.
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Posted by Katie (Edison, NJ) on 10/22/2008
I stopped taking my synthyroid and started supplementing with iodine. It took me a month and a half to build up to the 12.5mg. My body temperature increased by 2 degrees - from 96.3 to 98.3. My skin and hair have dramatically improved and I can sleep through the night.
EC: Synthroid is taken for hypothyroidism.
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Posted by Jayna (Fountain Valley, CA) on 08/08/2008
Shalom! I have been painting with iodine (a.m. and p.m.) for about five years now. I stopped taking the drug medications for Hashimotos Hypothyroidism because I learned that it eventually can rob me of my bones and mind. I am now 60 years old and function very well ~ praise be! I also take other herbs and vitamins (no tablets!) for this condition including liquid kelp drops in drinks during the day. Iodine for painting is less than $3.00 a bottle if you can still find it. I do not use regular pharmaceutical drugs of any kind. Blessings!
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Posted by Ann (Worcester, MA) on 05/25/2008
Kelp: It works wonders for thyroid disorders. It can be given to cats dogs and humans. What ever the problem it will get the job done. Can be purchased at local heath food store. Used in cooking or can be added to pets food.
Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 04/28/2008 | 524 Posts
Congratulations to Jan -4/18/08. When more people stop thinking M.D. stands for medical deity and follow their own judgement as you did & took Lugol's solution to cure your goiter instead of taking the endocrinologist's radioactive pill to kill off your hyperactive thyroid. I have a great niece who now has to take thyroid medication because of that mistake. She was only l6 when they gave her that radioactive pill!
Posted by Jan (Buffalo, NY) on 04/18/2008
Lugol's cure for Hyperthyroidism. 2 years ago I went to the doctor for fast pulse rate. Resting it was 105 to 110 bpm. He sent me to an endocrinologist who recommended the radioactive pill approach to killing the thyroid. I asked him about Iodine. He was very specific about how dangerous it would be to treat it with Iodine. I went home and ordered a bottle of Lugol's from the internet and three days later having taken doses for 3 days, my pulse rate was below 75 and the swollen throat had subsided. It was common goiter. The allopathic treatment seems to be kill the thyroid and take T4 for the rest of your life. there should be a law against the quackery practiced in modern medicine. What a waste of 12 years of education.
Posted by Angie (Sparta, MO) on 12/09/2007
I have been having problems with being so tired the past month or two. I knew it was a low thyroid problem. I ordered some organic iodine from a seller on ebay and within hours have felt a lot better, I'm on my 3rd day and my fatigue is still a lot better.
Posted by Donna (Aspen, CO) on 10/17/2007
I took one tablet of Iodoral (iodine supplement) a day for a year, my blood calcium and alkaline phosphatase levels rose to above normal. A year later my blood test results were even higher, so the doctor gave me a PTH (parathyroid--which sits right next to the thyroid) blood test, and it was very high. As the only thing that I had changed in my life was taking Iodoral, I quit taking it, and 3 months later all my tests were back to normal. The parathyroid's job is to take calcium out of your bones and give it to the brain, but too much in your blood can mean heart attacks, strokes, and osteoporosis. There really aren't any symptoms of an over active parathyroid until it's very bad...feeling cold all the time, brain fog, are two. If you've been supplementing with Iodoral or iodine I suggest you get your blood calcium level tested, then alkaline phosphatase, then PTH (which is expensive, so save that for last).