Natural Graves' Disease Treatment

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Posted by Anna (Kansas City, US) on 04/21/2014

Hello. I was diagnosed with Grave's Disease (hyperthyroid) shortly after the birth of my daughter five years ago. It was treated with Tapazole, meditation, an increase in cooked cruciferous vegetables, stopped using iodized salt, and a major decrease in stress levels. After two years of treatment I am happy to report I am no longer on any medication (the doctors were very surprised), but I still have an enlarged thyroid gland that is unsightly. Any ideas on how to shrink the thyroid back to normal size without increasing my thyroid levels?

Posted by Mama To Many
705 Posts
Dear Anna,

Good job healing your hyperthyroid!

Regarding reducing the size of the thyroid gland, I would consider charcoal poultices and/or castor oil. You can make a charcoal poultice and apply it over the thyroid overnight. Castor oil could be rubbed directly onto the swollen area. We have seen castor oil reduce swollen glands, so it seems like it might be worth a try on the thyroid gland. You could use use the castor oil twice a day, or do the castor oil in the morning and the charcoal poultice at night. It could take a few weeks to see a difference.

Here is how to make a charcoal poultice:

Let us know how things go!

~Mama to Many~

Posted by Cameron
Oklahoma City, OK
2 Posts
I would look into only drinking reverse osmosis filtered water and avoid anything else with fluoride in it.

Posted by Mimi (London, London Uk) on 11/15/2012

Does anyone know what natual supplements there are that are safe to take for graves disease? I am pregnant and it seems there are so many supplements like bugleweed and lemon balm that are not safe. I have decided to wait a month to try and treat this naturally before taking prescribed drugs. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Many thanks, Mimi

Posted by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
435 Posts
Low dose naltrexone is safe to take during pregnancy and is helpful with many autoimmune diseases, including Graves. Best wishes!

Posted by Teresa0617 (Macksburg, Ohio, Usa) on 05/04/2012

I was recently diagnosed with Graves' Disease and subclinical hyperthyroidism, I am 27 years old. My doctor currently has me on Lisinopril for high blood pressure and Atenolol for the heart palpitations. I would like to tackle this with a more natural approach since the doctor wants to put me on tapazole or have the radioactive iodine treatment. Any ideas and/or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss as to where to begin.

Posted by Jennifer
Sunrise, Fl
I have the opposite problem as you do (diagnosed as hypothyroid/Hashimoto's) - so whatever would be bad for me to do might be good for you.

Cruciferous vegetables eaten raw (cabbage, spinach, broccoli, white turnip, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, mustard, collard, kale) and peaches, pears, cassava, millet, and rutabagas are goitrogenic (they contain compounds called goitrogens) and will slow down the thyroid. Soy also slows down the thyroid, so maybe you could try drinking a lot of soy milk. Again, it's important to eat these foods raw, because cooking them inactivates the goitrogenic compounds. You could try working them in your diet and see how you feel.

Foods very high in iodine (such as shellfish, sea vegetables, yogurt, cow's milk, eggs, strawberries, mozzarella cheese, fish) also suppress the thyroid. I'm not sure about the contraindictions of eating these with Graves' Disease, so you might want to check.

What you really need to do though, is get to the root of the problem. Graves' Disease, like Hashimoto's Thyroiditis (what I have), is an autoimmune response. You need to see what triggers your autoimmune response. For me, the trigger is stress (when I get stressed, I can feel a goiter develop, I gain weight and my hair starts to fall out). I wouldn't be surprised if your trigger is stress as well. A lot of people who have Grave's Disease have related adrenal problems (again, usually burned out due to a prolonged period of stress). I would check out the information about adrenal problems here on Earth Clinic if you think that might be the issue. You could also check to see if you have a food allergy that is the trigger.

Unfortunately, I don't think there's any "magic supplement" that cures Graves'. You are going to need to get to the root of the problem - addressing the adrenal/autoimmune factors that are triggering your body to attack itself. Stress is probably the issue, so if that's the case, you need to make some major life changes. Stress is unavoidable in life, but CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) with a psychologist will help you learn healthy responses to stress (you could also read books to learn how to manage stress yourself). I recommend yoga, meditation, and breathing techniques for stress management along with magnesium supplementation (or epsom salt baths). Forward bend poses in yoga are good for Graves' sufferers because they slow the thyroid. Be careful with poses that stimulate the thyroid (headstands, backbends, camel posture). I work in stress-relieving massages and reiki treatments into my schedule too. You might also be sleep-deprived, so make sure you are getting lots of rest and relaxation. Make time in your life for enjoyable activities. After I burned out my thyroid due to prolonged stress, making time for relaxation is a priority for me now.

I would only do radioactive therapy as a last resort. It's a very serious procedure. Once your thyroid is damaged, it will never come back. But Graves' is serious if untreated, so if you've tried everything and nothing works, you might have to go that route.

I really recommend Mary Shomon's books about the thyroid. She is a thyroid patient (and thyroid patient advocate) who has exhaustively researched every possible natural (and medical) treatment for thyroid patients.

Good luck to you and I hope you feel better soon! Jennifer

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
949 Posts
In the pre-WW2 years and particularly in the pre-1900 period(for over 60 years), lugol's iodine was successfully used orally to cure Grave's disease. See this explanation with the historic evidence:

"For hyperthyroidism, physicians then used Lugol solution in daily amounts ranging from 6 mg to 180 mg, with the most common dose of 90 mg, resulting in success rates as high as 90%. Radioiodide and goitrogens drugs were not available to U. S. physicians until the late 1940's, after World War II.

With the advent of radioiodide and goitrogens as alternatives to Lugol solution in patients with hyperthyroidism, thyroidologists became very destructive, causing hypothyroidism in 90% of these unfortunate patients."

"In a survey of U. S. thyroidologists, some 70% used radioiodide to treat hyperthyroidism instead of Lugol solution used previously to treat this condition safely and effectively with a success rate as high as 90%, compared to a thyroid destruction rate of 90% with radioiodide."


For the many reasons as to why hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism occurs - see this link:

It has also recently been admitted by both the WHO and the CDC that iodine deficiency and thyroid problems have reached pandemic proportions throughout the world -- and particularly in well developed countries like America where Americans seem happy enough to eat chemically processed brominated vegetable oils, bread containng bromine, take medical drugs that contain high levels of bromide, fluoride and chorine. Heavy metals in foods, drugs, pesticides and waste is another big problem. All these factors can all contribute to impairing the thyroid. I would also agree that excercise is good for health -- but in the case of thyroidism caused through an actual deficiency of iodine and other nutrents, I doubt whether any form of exercise would ultimately cure this form of nutrrient deficiency problem.

Here are some reasons as to why supplementing larger dose iodine works to help cure both hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism:

* Supplies sufficient iodine/iodide for T3 & T4 formation in the thyroid. Iodide eficiency is satsified.

* Iodine acts as a great chelator of heavy metals like aluminium, cadmium, lead, mercury and arsenic. Heavy metals have a tendency to collect in the glands. If the pituitary gland is saturated with heavy metals -- this gland will atrophy and all hormonal control of all the glands -- including the thyroid -- and their performance in the body will consequently be degraded.

* Iodine helps to remove bromine and fluorine from the body. Pituitary gland operation -- including controlling the thyroid hormone and adrenals output -- also becomes degraded when these halogens are absorbed.

* Iodine kills about 90% of all pathogens in about 30 secs. This provides huge immune support for the body.

* Iodine improves the hormonal and energy pathways in the body. There is a very noticeable increase in energy levels. All hormone receptors in the body(not just the thyroid) are heavily dependent on iodide/iodine.

Other companion nutrients must normally be taken with lugol's and these are:

* Selenium - Very important. This is also a chelator and remover of mercury from the body. Selenium is also needed to provide the antioxidant glutathione peroxidase(GP) which is always involed in the conversion of thyroglobulin to the T3 and T4 hormones. Hydrogen peroxide is produced as a normal metabolite from this process -- and if there is not enough GP then the cell will become damaged by free radical action and antibodies will remove the cell as a result -- which is one of their jobs. Selenium is also involved in the conversion of T4 to the more active T3. So you can perhaps now see what problems and imbalances might arise in the thyroid if there is a Selenium deficiency in the diet. Selenium also helps to provide strong anti-oxidant support for the liver in helping to generate glutathione which further helps to remove poisons, drugs, halogens, heavy metals etc from the blood.

Vitamin C -- Necessary for rebuilding cells and a useful chelattor of heavy metals and immune booster. Vitamin C also removes problems arising from excess bromide in the body causing malabsorption of iodine both at the intestinal and cellular levels.

Zinc -- Very useful for thyroid and autoimmune support. Also useful for generation of Zinc SOD -- another beneficial and strong anti-oxidant.

B3 -- Taken in higher dose as niacin (beware the niacin flush) -- improves depression, digestions, CNS system, blood transport, hypotensive and improves and lowers HDL: LDL ratio. B3 should always be taken with B50 Complex -- because their synergistic action improves overall results.

Magnesium -- All western diets are over-fortified with calcium and lacking in magnesium now. Excess calcium in the diet blocks the absorption of iodine in the body. Magnesium helps to regulate calcium properly in the body and is also involved as a coenzyme with tyrosine to help regulate the proper conversion and storage of iodide to iodine in the thyroid gland.

From both the historic and current evidence, it would therefore seem that orally supplementing higher dose lugol's iodine is more than useful as a protocol which can cure both hyper- and hypothroid problems. For the full iodine protocol with companion nutrients -- see this link:

It further also makes complete sense that both hyper- and hypothyroid issues are most likely caused by both lack of iodine as well as lack of other nutrients as suggested here -- since even the WHO admits that there is a worldwide deficiency of iodine in diet now.

Posted by Had
White River Jct, Vermont
53 Posts
B2 is also used w/ B3 for opening pathways while detoxing and to minimize or stop detox symptoms.

I also use D and potassium as most are deficient in that as well. Lugol's is a wonderful lifesaver.

Dr.'s Abraham/Brownstein and more have studies and books out about iodine and every edition seems to be more refined and widens the margins on what we now know iodine cures.

I'm not pushing them, I'm using theraputic doses myself and feel like I'm becoming a human being again and not just a sick, tired patient in my families life. Hoshimoto for most of my life, properly diagnosed 2 years ago.

Posted by Had
White River Jct, Vermont
53 Posts
There are 4 types of iodine, radioactive WILL kill your thyroid. The 'natural' one is inorganic iodine and iodide(lugols) please look up, iodine Dr. S, or Dr. David Brownstein is an easy read, and current. Graves is treatable w/o poisoning your body. Lugol's will rebalance your thyroid and fix your iodine deficiency, the books explain it out in detail though not technical, and the treatments for it are Not Expensive and you can handle this on your own, though I would suggest someone, natural pathor one who does applied kinesiology(muscle testing) to make sure you are getting all supplements you need in exactly how much you need them, because you will detox and need to have your body prepped and ready for it.

If you look up Graves on this site you will find much on this, or just plug in iodine, the treatment protocols for this are listed out, I find source reading to be reassuring that I am not missing any parts.

Posted by Suzzanne (Ravena, Ny) on 12/28/2011

Hyperthyrodism/Graves Disease: I have been diagnosed but I would love to get more information from others about alternative treatments, if any, besides taking a pill.

Posted by Jen
Bozeman, Mt, Us
114 Posts
Hi Suzzanne, I also have Graves Disease and am currently in "remission". The best advice I received since my diagnosis was to stop looking at the disease as a thyroid issue and start looking at it as an immune system issue. Graves is an auto immune disease. Which means for some reason our immune system is attacking our thyroid. Causing it to produce to much T3 and T4. I have been actively treating my immune system instead of just my thyroid for almost two years now. My thyroid is now as normal as it can get. Balance is the key word. If any of the minerals your body needs are off kilter then you will get different symptoms and sometimes different diseases. Some very helpful websites are: and and

I have found that gluten irritates my thyroid. Since I have a sensitivity to gluten when I eat it my immune system attacks the cells to try to protect my body from harm. Thyroid cells look a lot like gluten cells so now my immune system is attacking my thyroid constantly as well. I try to avoid gluten which helps to keep my immune system calmer. I also take immune system support like marshmallow root and astragulus root. Teds alkalizing formula is also a very good immune system support (baking soda and lemon). I make sure to take D3 and Vit C on a dailey basis and echinacea when I know my immune system is low. I also take dessicated thymus twice a year for a month or so.

I treat my adrenals as well since my naturopath found they are fatigued. Most thyroid conditions either result in adrenal fatigue or are caused by it. For this I take milk thistle, DHEA, valarian, meletonin, relora, magnesium. Basicly the goal is to keep yourself calm. Using anti stress remedies to calm the cortisol production from your adrenals. Tin is very important to the adrenal glands. You can get it in supplements like doggrass, juniper, bilberry, milk thistle, valarian, Irish moss, nettles, barberry, yarrow, blessed thistle, yellow dock, kelp, licorice, devils claw, and senna.

Some of the most important thyroid minerals are selenium, iodine, copper, and iron. Most hyperthyroid patients are low on copper and selenium. But you have to make sure to balance all of the minerals when using supplements or you will cause an imbalance of another kind somewhere else in your body. For my thyroid I take selenium 200 to 400 mcg (very important), Iodorol or lugals iodine 50 mg (also very important), Vit C (a must with iodine supplements), B complex, D3, Zinc, and Copper.

Unfortunately there is no easy fix for graves disease. If you choose to use the anti thyroid drugs from your doctor you can have many other problems (I know I took them for a few months). If you choose surgery or radiation you will also have many other problems that will most likely last your entire life. So I choose to take all of these supplements instead. The reason you have the disease is because there are multiple imbalances in your mineral/ vitamins. It is a good idea to get a hair analysis to see what might be off in your minerals before you start supplementing. You can get them through reputible labs on line or through a naturopath. If you have anymore questions or would like more details on helpful info and supplements please feel free to contact me. I have researched thyroid issues non stop for many years now. I am on EC daily.

Posted by Suzzanne
Ravena, Ny
3 Posts
Thank you for your reply and sharing your knowledge. I am trying to absorb everything I can before I go back to the Endo next month. My appointment is at the end of January so I am hoping that I can "load up" on info and dodge the treatment she will want to prescribe. It is really comforting knowing that you can do this with other remedies besides what they are going to offer.

Posted by Molly (Minneapolis, Mn) on 08/16/2011

I was diagnoised with Hyperthyroidism when I was 16, I was immediatley treated with Iodine Radiation... And shortly became Hypo afterward. As I am getting older, and realizing that I have been on synthroid and ateneol since I was 16 (9 1/2 years) is really starting to bother me. I have two healthy and beautiful children, and I feel unhealthy, and like this disease has cut my life in half. I have my good days, and I have my bad days. I'm completely bald in the front and on the sides (Been wearing wigs since I was 21)... I have the bulging eyes ( I look like a frog)... I'm sure people think I'm high or on drugs most of the time... but it's like why bother explaining.

My glasses and sunglasses do a good job at hiding the shame. Sometimes my eyes will go back in my head on their own... I have the sweating, the nervousness, racing mind/thoughts, slurred speech, double vision (going blind), sensitivity to cold... And sometimes overly hot... My heart beats fast when resting.. And then sometimes I feel like it stops.. And then begins again... Or sometimes it double beats... It just does weird things. I'm moody and irritated.. Short tempered and mad for no reason. I'm like pms'ing just about everyday it seems... My legs and fingers go numb... I feel like my bones are Brital.. And my body aches a lot.. Sometimes I get unbearable pain in my eyes.. But at this point, I'm use to it. I get so tired and exhausted.

I'm just so young, and so tired of letting this disease take over my life. I have to beat it. I see my first endocrinologist this Thursday (what should I expect)??? Believe it or not, I've never seen one. Only my idiot family doctor who just keeps feeding me synthroid and atenenol and telling me to diet and lose weight. She doesn't seem to have the slightest idea, of how physically, emotionally, and mentally this graves disease is. No one actually understands how I feel sometimes. I envy so much to function like a healthy adult again. I don't know why I was cursed with this disease at such a young age. I don't talk about it much with friends and family, and figured it was time to do some long overdue 9 1/2 year research, and find a cure.

Any advice? Any remedies?

I currently take 150mg synthroid, 50mg atenolol, Multivitamin, Vitamin Cw/ Vitamin D and Fish Oil...

Should I be test for vitamin deficiencies? Should I be test for food allergies? Also, I don't know if my thyroid/graves disease was caused by lack of iodine or not... Should I find out the underlying problem?

Posted by Clarity
Los Angeles, California, Usa
8 Posts
Molly from MN, So sorry your are suffering, and so sorry the medical profession is too myoiptic, self serving and downright dangerous. Get off the synthetic thyroid meds, up until recently Armour Thyroid was the best medicine as it is of dessicated thyroid, taken by many generations successfully. In the last 2/3 years Armour Thyroid company sold to Forest Labs and they messed with the formulation so to create a new patent. Now Armour Thyroid is useless and making alot of people sick....

Please go to:

Also visit: (purest med. here)

Anyone who's on thyroid meds look at this resource, and educate yourselves.

Be well,


Posted by Jen
Bozeman, Mt
114 Posts
Molly, I am so sorry to hear of all the suffering you have gone through over the years. I feel for you as I and my 15 year old daughter both have been diagnosed with this terrible disease. I agree that you should stop the synthitic thyroid meds. Though it sounds like you may be Hyper again anyways and if so then the endo will want you to go off of them for sure. I have seen endo's and they really are not much different than a GP but they at least will have more insite as to what is going on as a GP doesn't know alot about anything but a little about a lot:) I would go to your appt. With the understanding that you need to know what is going on internally. Find out your lab results and know that you are in control of your body not them. If the endo says he wants to change your meds, do surgery, or anything else... Do research and make sure you agree. If you don't and he/she won't do as you wish change endo's or go to a naturopath.

I have treated both myself and my daughter's Graves holistically and I know it can be done. I believe all immune diseases are caused by imbalances in our mineral and vitamens. Whether over time or recent it may be something you can change by finding out what is missing or deficient and what is too high. I found the most helpful info both hear on this website and on I would love to help you out if you have any questions I check this website regularly:)

Posted by Noodlelegs (Toronto, Ontario, Canada) on 06/11/2011

Hi everyone, this is my first time on this site. I have ben diagonised with Graves for the last 8years. My normal weight was 120 punds I am currently weighing 98 pounds, I have palpitations, sweating, weakness and my legs feel like noodles. I have been seeing an Endocrinologist been on Tapazole and even had RAI treament also my THS level was 38. I am 40 years old and I feel very unhealthy; I decided to take B100(supery potency) and I'm confused. Been on websites for the past few years and I still have no idea what to do. HELP

Posted by Bobbi (Hickory, Nc, Usa) on 01/19/2011

I was diagnosed with Grave Disease in June 2009. I have rapid heart palpitations, sensitive to light, weight loss, and bugle eye. I have read the various symptoms and alternative cures. However, no one has said they have double vision. This double vision is driving me nuts. I have researched the internet and there is an surgery to correct the muscles of the eye. Has anyone had success with correcting the double vision. It is wonderful to have a forum to share our experiences and cures. God Bless everyone and may we all receive our healing for our eyes and heart.

Posted by Granny Laura
Waco, Tx
37 Posts
Remedies for double vision from Grave's Disease: You've asked about surgery for double vision; my son had surgery done for a crossed eye due to amblyopia. He flew to CA to have it done, and I must say it has been successful! For the first time in his life of 43 yrs he has binocular vision w/o the aid of glasses. My email is ladylauranwaco(at)yahoo(dot)com. If someone wants to know the name of the doctor he used I am sure I can find it out for you. His insurance paid for the surgery, so all he was out was money for a limo (cheaper than a taxi), motel, and plane fare.
Posted by Kathy
Manhattan Beach, Ca
I had double vision and severely protruded eyes since July 09, and after the surgery for orbital decompression my eyes now look almost back to normal!! More importantly, the surgery corrected the double vision as well!

It was well worth it to go through the surgery. I looked drastically improved within just 2 weeks! If you have severely protuded eyes, don't put off a consultation with an oculoplastic surgeon that specializes in Graves Disease.

Posted by Paloma
Nyc, Usa
I am replying to Bobbi from Hickory, NC, about his double vision.
The thyroid disease that you have is the main reason for your double vision, you have to treat your thyroid to get rid of those symptoms, you do not need any surgery in my opinion. I have hyperactive thyroid and double vision is part of my symptoms too- I have a double vision especially when I am tired or even in the morning. I know it is very weird thing and it gives you a huge discomfort. I am treating my thyroid disease with a Bugleweed and I have less of those horrible double vision symptoms right now. You do not need any surgery - treat your thyroid properly and your double vision will go away.
Good luck, paloma
Posted by Wishingyouwell
Gentle Earth, Ks
You may also find help looking online re: copper for hyperthyroidism. Caution! If you use copper you really really really have to read about it before you ingest it. Copper has to be taken with other nutrients and in the corrects ratios. Autoimmune disorders may be more prevalent in women due to poor copper assimilation which may cause other nutrients to become depleted also. ithyroid has great info on this.

Wishing you all the best in your healing journeys!

Posted by Sara27 (Silverspring, Md, Montogomery) on 01/07/2011

Hi , i am new to this wonderful network and happy that I found such a grate helath network system to inform, share and support each other. My question is that I am recenlty diagnosed with Graves disease and want to know if any of u experince this disease and if any natural cure that really worked for you? please help. Thanks

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines
949 Posts
Hi Sara27... You might want to read this article from Dr Abraham who initiated something called the Iodine Project. This project, which is perhaps the most up to date current research on the benefits of Lugol's Iodine, notes how iodine can be used to successfully help cure problems like hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, diabetes, breast cancer, fibrocysitic breast disease, obesity, uterine fibroids and allergies etc.

Here is the pertinent article:

In the article, Dr Abraham recommends a combination of large dose magnesium(800 - 1200mgs/day) together with Lugol's Iodine(12. 5 mgs/day) for hyperthyroidism. Please note that these dosages are deliberately well above the recommended RDA for both Iodine and Magnesium.

The complex biological and biochemical explanation by Dr Abraham's may be simply translated into this explanation: Due to excess, unregulated Calcium in the body because of deficient body magnesium and/or excess calcium in the diet, this interferes with the body's iodine feedback regulation system, thus encouraging excess production of hormones by the thyroid gland. Magnesium (as Mag Chloride, Mag Citrate or Mag Gluconate are the best forms to take) is what helps to regulate calcium in the body properly.

I would also add Vitamin C(3000 mgs/day), Coenzyme Q10(30 - 200 mgs/day) and Selenium(200 micrograms/day) to this therapy, since an over-active thyroid can also be caused by over-production of dangerous free radicals in the body -- which causes thyroid damage. Therefore Vitamin C(as Ascorbate powder) and CoQ10 will counteract and will help stop the oxidative thyroid damage and Vitamin C and Selenium will also both help the thyroid gland to repair itself.

Posted by Lorraine
Irving, Tx
I have had hyperthyroid over ten yrs I was taking methimazole and it seem to make me worse. I refuse the rai treatment at this time I also take q-10 and sellinium my hair has turned a weird yellow color now has anyone else had this happen? also the horrible nausea and stomache pain does anyone have any solutions for this?

Posted by Antonn (Hopkins, Sc) on 02/22/2010

I have Grave Disease. I really please need whatever remedies you can tell me about, to cure me. Please I will love to be cured of this Disease.

God Bless you, If you have any information that may can help me. Please let me know. Example is Vitamin D3 helpful with Graves Disease, and if so How much IU. and what are the other things to do???

Posted by J
i am replying to all who are inquiring about graves disease remedies. I was diagnosed with graves disease in march 09. i have opted not to have western meds or radiation or surgery. This is my personal choice and i have a dr who supports this. This is what i have taken that is working for me. it has worked slowly but its helping. I found online a tincture made by nativeremedies called thyrosoothe. this worked well but was a little pricy. i now take a tincture made by herb pharm called bugleweed motherwort compound. This is only because i found it in a local store and its a little less expensive. it has taken my thyroid numbers in the correct direction my numbers are still bad but are getting better. its almost been a year now and i know how horrible and awful this disease is. i also have thyroid eye disease and have found no relief for that. if anyone has any remedies im sure we would all appreciate it. i am so sorry to see all the new posts about graves disease. I think its a sign of the times.????? a year ago there were only a few posts about graves disease now there are many. anyways this is my second reply the first one didnt show up, i dont know what happened but i hope this reply finds you all well and i pray for your speedy recovery.

You may email me at with a subject line of "earthclinic" and i will respond asap.

peace love and life

Posted by Virginia (Green Cove Springs, Fla, Clay) on 02/15/2010

I have Graves Disease covered over by Hashimoto. I am looking for something that will help with the eye inflamation. Please can you help?

I am on Levothyroin just increased to 100mg, I have been on 88mg. for years just increased to 100mg.The inflamation is so hard to deal with!

Thank you, Virginia.

Posted by Theresa
Ann Arbor, Michigan
Diagnosed with Hyperthyroid in 2002 I was ordered Synthroid (t4) right away, 88mcg, by a GP. Took it for 7 years, at first it helped my anxiety and feeling cold at night but never felt good as new. In 2009 was under even more stress and current dose was not working I was becoming ever more tired and increased my own synthroid (because I no longer had insurance for blood tests). I upped it to 120mcg and soon developed bulging eyes, and lesions on the front lower part of my legs. (classic hyperthyroid signs - Hashimotos). So I bit the bullet paid to see a Naturopath who sent me to a holistic doctor who tested for adrenal function and thyroid. Results were low thyroid, low adrenal (I had stopped the self prescribed 120mcg and was taking 88mcg). I was then placed on compounded t3/t4 with a starting dose and given additional dosages to titrate up from there until i felt hyper symptoms. Eyes are down, legs are healed. So that was my experience.

In conclusion - the new doctors felt i had hyperthyroid caused by hashimotos which can cause your levels to go up and down. hard to stop the inflammatory reaction. but i feel much better now - being monitored for lab results AND how I feel.

Now taking t3 25 mcg - t4 125 mcg.

Good luck,

Posted by Dee
Detroit, Michigan
Hi, can you tell me your doctor's info, I live in metro detroit and I am seeking relief for graves disease. thank you.

Posted by Diane (Newtown, 18940) on 02/14/2010

I am a 50 year old woman just diagnoised with graves disease. Removing my thyroid or radioactive iodine treatments are my options for treatment. My question is do you have to remove or destroy the thyroid to treat it? Can you take supplements and leave in the thyroid?

Posted by Joyce
Joelton, Tn.
252 Posts
Hello Diane from Newtown,

Sorry you are having thyroid problems, but there is another option besides removing the thyroid or nuking your thyroid - it's called suppressing the thyroid.

Fortunately, one side effect of Lugol's solution or SSKI (both are potassium iodide solution) is suppression of the thyroid. In the states you now need a prescription for either of them, but I found one source of it at an aquarium shop when I typed in Lugol's solution. There is a possibility that some infection triggered this (any prolonged sore throats
recently??) and it just might regain it's normal function if just suppressed for awhile. One source I read on line suggested to take your temperature to know when suppression occurred (apparently it drops your body temp when suppressed). From personal experience, suppression occurs after a month or two of 6 drops per day in unchlorinated water. Since yours in overactive, you would probably be safe with 6 drops 2 x a day until you can tell a difference and then decrease it to 4 to 6 drops per day. After suppressing it for awhile, you omit the potassium iodide solution for a week or so and have your thyroid function retested.


P.S. Nuking the thyroid destroys it. Suppressing the thyroid leaves the thyroid active and it can bounce back when the Lugol's or SSKI is discontinued.

Posted by George (Lagos, Nigeria.) on 04/15/2009

Hi Ted, I am an hyperthyroidism patient for about 8months now, with bulging eyes. I am taking four tabs of cabimazole twice daily on dr's prescription but it seems not to work for me. At times my eye lid may just go into my eyes and i begin to struggle to bring it out, this hurts. Pls i need an herbal cure to this embarrassing disease. Please help me i'm looking like a frog.

Posted by Lucky
Personally I have not tried any of these remedies but I just wanted to help so giving some ideas that I read some where. But please check with your doctor before you deceide to use any of these medications.

The Green Pharmacy by James A. Duke

"If you have symptoms of Graves' disease, see a doctor and take the prescribed medication. Do not attempt self-treatment, even though it worked for the young woman whose story began this chapter. In addition to following your doctor's advice, and with his permission, you might also try these herbs.

Bugleweed (Lycopus, various species). Bugleweed has a considerable folk history for treating thyroid conditions, and modern research supports this use. This herb inhibits iodine metabolism and reduces the amount of hormone that's produced by thyroid cells.

Leaf extracts are more active than root extracts. The recommended oral preparation is a tincture (alcohol extract) rather than a tea. In one study using laboratory animals, bugleweed tincture resulted in a significant decrease in thyroid hormone levels.

Bugleweed is widely used in Europe as an herbal treatment for early-stage Graves' disease, often in combination with lemon balm. However, I must caution that bugleweed--and other herbal treatments for Graves' disease--have mild effects and are best used in early stages of the condition or in addition to synthetic pharmaceuticals.

Lemon balm (Melissa officinalis). In Europe, lemon balm, also known as melissa, is often recommended along with bugleweed for treating Graves' disease. Studies show that lemon balm causes a decrease in blood and pituitary levels of TSH after a single injection, thus reducing thyroid hormone production. It's not clear if lemon balm has a similar effect when taken orally, but I believe the chances are good. It's probably worth a try.

Self-heal (Prunella vulgaris). A quarter-pound serving of self-heal greens with bugleweed tubers, spiced up with basil, oregano, rosemary and spearmint, should contain significant quantities of the compound rosmarinic acid, which helps suppress thyroid hormone production.

Kelp (Laminaria, various species). Herbal pharmacologist Daniel Mowrey, Ph.D., author of The Scientific Validation of Herbal Medicine and Herbal Tonic Therapies, notes that among the Japanese who consume a great deal of kelp, thyroid disease is practically unknown, but among the Japanese who have become Westernized and eat little or no kelp, thyroid disease is on the rise

You can buy powdered kelp in health food stores to sprinkle on your food as a seasoning.


To make a tasty mixed herb tea that combats Graves' disease, combine two teaspoons of lemon balm with one teaspoon of bugleweed and then add mint, rosemary, self-heal and verbena to taste. I think drinking this tea regularly just might help.

Verbena (Verbena, various species). Often called vervain, verbena seems to have properties similar to those of self-heal. Extracts have been shown to suppress thyroid hormone production by influencing levels of TSH in the body.

Broccoli (Brassica oleracea). Remember how George Bush hated broccoli? His aversion to that wonderful vegetable deprived him of something that might have helped treat his Graves' disease. broccoli contains naturally occurring substances called isothiocyanates, which help restrain the thyroid from producing too much hormone. When Bush was diagnosed with Graves' disease, several alternative health authorities urged him to eat broccoli. One even published a book titled Why George Should Eat broccoli.

Radish (Raphanus sativus). All of the cruciferous vegetables gently and naturally suppress thyroid hormone production, but radishes do it best, according to medical anthropologist John Heinerman, Ph.D., author of Heinerman's Encyclopedia of Fruits, Vegetables and Herbs. Cruciferous vegetables include broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, mustard greens, radishes, rutabagas and turnips. Radishes are used in Russia precisely for this purpose.

Posted by Txtornado381
Palm Bay, Fl
Can you please provide the dosage for all this daily? txtornado381(at)

Thank you

Posted by Cucumber
Cleburne, Texas, United States
Hi. I'm newly diagnosed with hyperthyroidism and am trying to understand my lab reports. In October my labs read: TSH-1 value 0.006, and FT4 value 1.0. Now, in November, my labs read TSH1 value 10.800, and F4 value 0.5. Does this mean that the hyperthyroidism worsened significantly in a one month period? Please help.
Posted by Jen
Bozeman, Mt
114 Posts
Hi Cucumber, I just saw your post from back in November and wanted to let you know that your thyroid labs actually show that your thyroid is now hypo rather than hyper. At least according to your TSH values. It would be much easier to say if you had free T3 and Total T4 values but TSH values that are that high show hypothyroid. Its my guess that either medically or naturally your thyroid is either dying or struggling at the very least. You should definately get retested to see though. Then get back on here for some advice as it may be the opposite of what you would need with hyperthyroid. Good luck!!

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Posted by Krista (Wayne, Pa) on 06/21/2013

I was just diagnosed with graves and thyroid eye disease. I take the selenium. I am in the very early stages of the eye disease. I started taking two pills twice a day and now I am down to once a day. Does anyone recommend getting a second opinion with an endocrinologist?

Posted by Jason
Long Beach
Selenium was recommended from my Dr at the Cleveland Clinic. They are the best.

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Posted by Timothy (Chicago, Illinois) on 10/24/2009

I get flare-ups of hyperthyroid symptoms - my test results have come back with the markers of graves disease. I have taken these symptoms to help with my hyperthyroid/jitteriness/insomnia/racing thoughts. If I take them for a few days - a few weeks and then re-take a thyroid test, my thyroid levels actually show remarkable improvement as my symptoms improve:

L-Tryptophan - 500milligrams - 3 pills up to 3X a day (without food)

Magnesium Chloride - 2 teaspoons 3X/a day (with food). I have also used Magnesium Citrate 1-2 teaspoons up to 3X a day. I think I prefer the Magnesium Chloride.

Magnesium Glycinate 400milligrams - up to 3X/day (with food)

Vitamin E - I know some doctors advise against taking large amounts of vitamin E so please check with your doctor. When I get very jittery vitamin E helps make me tired and calm me down so I'll take up to 800 iU a day of vitamin E as well.

These are the supplements that have significantly helped me. Please check with your doctor first!

Posted by Jules559
Porterville, Ca
Hello, I just been told I have graves disease. I youtubed it and today I been in such tears. I am scared and I am a single mother. Its has efected my whole life and its been down hill since Oct. I now have double vission that makes it so hard to drive at night. Now that is making it hard to work and drive, I am more scared for my child. I am on a beta blocker Toprol XL 100 Mg and the Tapazole 2x a day at 5mgs. My eyes are hurting and I am so scared. Looking for anything that can or anyone who can help me start a recovering plan for myself. Please e-mail me at gotangels(at)

Any information on where to start and more about what is going on and about to happen to me. Are you guys still able to hold a job? If not how are you living? Any before and after picture? Gosh I could use the up lifting from seeing others come through it. Because what I have seen so far has got me crying all day.

Thank You. Julie

Posted by Jen
Bozeman, Mt
114 Posts
Oh no.... It breaks my heart to read your post. Don't be scared it is not the end of the world I promise. You must be having eye symtoms to be so upset after googling it. I too did the same thing as you and googled the day I found out I had it. That was three years ago. I am completely better now. You can go the natural route and see a Naturopath or you can get help from an Endocrinologist. I posted on the 11th of August some of the treatments I have done that have put me in complete remission. Remember that you can change doctors if you think they are not trying hard enough to help you out. Google some more. Sometimes doctors don't know whats best for you. In fact most of the time they don't. They only know a certain amount of things about any one disease or illness (since there are billions of them) everything else they look up in a very large book:) If they are that commited to your health. Otherwise they will put you in one catagory (Graves Disease) and treat you with the same drugs and recamendations they did for the last person with Graves. I would love to help you in any way possible if you have any questions please ask. I have children and actually one of mine was diagnosed with graves disease as well. It is only scary when you don't have the knowledge to feel confident you are in control of your health. Make sure the doctor tests all of the hormones involved with graves every time. TSH, free T3, and free T4. Also make sure (since you are on Tapazol) that you are getting a liver function test every 3 months. Unfortunatly I will not be of help if you are having eye symptoms as I haven't had any yet (knock on wood). Good health to you and I hope you are doing better soon.
Posted by Tina
Prescott, Arizona
Inquiry for Jen from Bozeman, Mt

I was diagnosed with graves 10 years ago and have been on methemizole ever since. I am not doing well, I am extremely irritable and sad. I have tried bugleweed, lemon balm, and many other suggestions I have found. I am curious what your doctor/s did with you that helped you go into remission. I am in Arizona and haven't found the right doctor for me yet. Money makes it hard to work with the naturopaths because it seems like they are prescribing expensive supplements that they are not sure will work, but their idea is to test things with me and go from there. I just don't have the funding to be spending several hundred dollars every month to test products that may or may not help me. I am scared that my liver is being effected by the medicine and my relationships certainly are because I am not in a rational mental space.
Any details of your success story would be so appreciated.
thanks, tina

Posted by Jen
Bozeman, Mt
114 Posts
I completely know where your coming from. I to cannot afford the naturopathic remedies that end up costing hundreds of dollars per month on top of the dr visits which insurance doesn't even pay for if you are lucky enough to have it in the first place. I believe it is a combination of treatments that helped me both from the naturopath as well as from the research and self help stuff I have implemented myself. The foundation of what started my healing is a supplement called thymex which can be purchased on amazon. It is desicated thymus and I purchase it every few months for $16. 00. It supports your immune system. Which for whatever reason is attacking our thyroids with this disease. It sounds contradictory to support your immune system when it is attacking your thyroid but it works. I have treated my 15 yr old daughter using it as well and she is much better and on the road to remission as well. The other minerals and supplements I am using are:

Moodiness (hormonal and usually ovarian related) 1. Wild yam cream (progesterone) with a zinc supplement and/or 2. DHEA with a copper supplement. I can tell which one is needed and I very it depending on my period and mood. If it is heavy and long I am progesterone deficient so I take wild yam and zinc. If it is short and light I am estrogen deficient so I take the second two. I will continue taking them until I begin to feel normal again. It usually takes about 1 week or so to notice a difference.

Heart palpitations: Magnesium (250 to 500)and potassium every day (coconut water has 600 to 1000 mg of potassium in each can) I also will take a little extra potassium when I am swollen as it is an imbalance of sodium to potassium that causes this. The magnesium I take a little extra if I am unusually tense and need to relax a bit. It helps me sleep too.

Selenium: to help the conversion of thyroid hormones so there is not to much t4 or t3 and things can run smoothly. Selenium is one of the big ones I think has healed me. You should take a little more than the recemended dosage as we are usually deficient and it is so important for our thyroids. Usual dosage is about 200mg I usually take at least 400 mg per day.

iodine: 7 mg per day. (contrary to most doctors beliefs most hypers are actually iodine deficient and this is what caused them to go hyper in the first place) Flouride, bromine, and chlorine displaces iodine and does not do the job that iodine does so our thyroids malfunction.

I blend of GABA, theonine, relora, and a few other calming ingredients to help me sleep and deal with life. It really helps me to keep calm in situations where I would otherwise freak out. (I have five kids:)

Manganese: Is very beneficial to hypers and hypos. I can't remember exactly why. I will get back to you on that.

For my liver: Which has been through alot over the years as well. I very these herbs and supplements to keep my liver flowing( when one runs out I go to the next one). Dandalion root, licorice, milk thistle.

desicated Thymus gland: I only take a months worth about every 3 to six months. If I feel like my moods are getting worse and my heart palpitations are coming more often I know that my thyroid is probably getting more active so I order a bottle. Take it three times a day for 30 days and so far all of my blood work has been great for over a year now.

I also take A, E, C, Calcium, D3, I'm sure I'm forgetting something. Mostly it is a guessing game unfortunately. I have researched this issue for many years on the internet and at school. My family has suffered both hashimoto's and graves for a long time. I will never give up on finding things that will help. I am currently using the process of painting my goiter with iodine and watching it shrink slowly but very noticably. I get all of these supplements from the health food stores or amazon. I believe that every condition is caused by an imbalance in the minerals/ vitamins which causes an imbalance in hormones and pH and many other issues. We can't supplement with one thing without causing another to go crazy. For example Zinc and Copper are antagonists. Zinc and Progesterone are..... Buddies. Copper and estrogen are... Buddies. One goes deficient the buddy does as well. The antagonists party it up and cause many other problems in thier wake. It is a constant balancing act which gets tiresome but I feel so great and don't ever want to go back to taking those drugs that I could feel were wrong for me. Another helpful tip is that if you supplement with potassium for edema then make sure to take magnesium as well. Magnesium helps potassium get into the cells where it is needed. Iodine and Flouride are antagonists. Iodine is the weaker of the two so if you are drinking flouridated water etc... Iodine will loose the battle unless you are supplementing with iodine at a higher level than flouride. I know this is way to much info to take in but I have a hard time deciding which knowledge to leave out and which to keep in. Sorry. I hope this helps. Let me know if I can help with anything else. The mood thing is so hard. I was in the same boat. I thought I was going to cause my hubby to divorce me. My poor kids too. Chin up though. It is possible to feel better with a little knowledge. Best of luck, Jen!

Posted by Jen
Bozeman, Mt
114 Posts
So sorry I also should mention that the naturopath tested me for food intolerances and we found there were some big ones. It seams that Gluten intolerance is a huge one for Graves as well as most auto immune diseases. It nearly killed me to stop gluten but now after 1 year of not eating it I only miss it about once a month;) Once I make it through that week of craving it I am fine. The pain I get when I eat it makes me instantly sorry I did. Migraines, joint pain, as well as gastrointestinal issues. Just more of my (long) story:)
Posted by Marlane
Geelong, Victoria, Australia
18 Posts
Tina, Google the ithyroid site. ithyroid is the best site I have found on the net dealing with Hyperthyroidism. cheers
Posted by Catherine
Whittier, Ca
Here is something interesting I found:

I have not tried it, but I'm willing to give it a try. I was diagnosed with Graves' Disease three years ago and suffered with symptoms for about a year prior to diagnosis. Not fun to feel like a schizophrenic when you have a toddler and kindergartener to take care of. My eyes began to bulge three years ago, but seemed to respond well to the PTU I was put on. I had a very stressful couple of months a year ago and the aftermath of that time is that my right eye has bulged out once again where my left eyelid is "normal. " However, my bulged eye isn't so bad. It actually makes my "normal" eyelid look lazy. Go figure.

Anyway, I am tired of avoiding taking pictures with my family because I feel like a monster. If I do take pictures, I squint so that at least the right one doesn't look so enlarged. Last week was the first week in three years, after reading and reading on the subject that I have decided to change my health and lifestyle. Slowly, and day-by-day I am making changes that I hope will stick and help rid me of this autoimmune disorder. The next big step is purchasing a bugleweed supplement and the niacinamide. I know my endocrinologist would not approve of this and has asked me, every three months, if I would like to keep my thyroid and my answer continues to be "yes. " I have given up having anymore children over the last three years, although my husband and I wanted one or two more, because I'm still on the PTU. I want to be off the meds for good.

I will continue to check back to this post giving comments and feedback as I can, and I'm hoping and praying that these supplements can reduce the swelling behind my eye. I won't know about my levels, although, until I get back to the Endo in June. I concur with the person who blessed us all in dealing with this disorder, especially those who have symptoms and have yet to be diagnosed, and even more so, the family and friends who have to deal with the erratic behavior.

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
949 Posts
Hi Catherine... I would consider using and supplementing higher dose Lugol's Iodine to cure Grave's disease. Lugol's Iodine was used very successfully by medical doctors up to WW2 in curing both hypothyroid and hyperthyroid problems. Here is an extract which first describes -- in 1863 -- the inadvertent but successful use of LI to cure Grave's disease by a French doctor:

Iodine was used in the treatment of toxic goiter as early as 1840 by Von Basedow and in 1854 by Stokes. In 1863, Trousseau inadvertently used tincture of iodine successfully in a patient with exophthalmic goiter. "In the course of October, 1863, I was consulted by a young married lady, who habitually resides in Paris. She was suffering from subacute exophthalmic goiter... I still found her heart beat at the rate of 140 to 150 times in the minute... I wished to administer at the same time tincture of digitalis, but preoccupied with the idea that there would be some danger in giving iodin, I wrote iodin instead of digitalis, so that the patient took from 15 to 20 drops of tincture of iodin a day for a fortnight. (For the reader's information, "tincture of iodin" is a 10% solution of iodine in 95% ethanol. The daily amount ingested was 75-100 mg). When she then came back to me her pulse was only 90. I found out my mistake, and I substituted tincture of digitalis for that of iodin, but, after another fortnight, the pulse had again gone up to 150, so that I at once returned to the iodin. " Trousseau had the distinction of performing the first double-blind study of iodine in a cohort of one patient with Graves' disease. He also achieved remission of Graves' disease with prolonged administration of potassium iodide

In the above please also note that a strong tincture of iodine was used which is not advised or recommended. Also note that recovery from Grave's disease can also be achieved using either higher dose Lugol's Iodine or SSKI(drops of Saturated Solution of Potassium Iodide). In my opinion, Lugol's Iodine is the best one to use because it is more balanced and has more widespread beneficial effects on the body.

Source: The Safe and Effective Implementation of Orthoiodosupplementation In Medical Practice

And here is why many people are so unreasonably scared of supplementing higher dose Lugol's iodine today:

Antioxidants are also extremely useful for helping to cure thyroid problems. The anti-oxidants glutathione and glutathione peroxidase particularly have relevance in both thyroid and liver cell health because they reduce or help to prevent free radical cell damage. Selenium is the central metal atom for both these anti-oxidants. That's why Selenium should always be supplemented together with Lugol's Iodine because thyroid problems might also involve a selenium deficiency in the diet as well.

The full Iodine Protocol is given here.

Also be aware that if you use this protocol, then you should expect other effects and symptoms, such as detox and die-off effects, which might also exacerbate your thyroid symptoms for a while. So start low and increase iodine dosages slowly to the full dose.

Posted by Bopeep
New Zealand
Hi There, What ever you do, think very seriously about drinking the radioactive iodine offered by an endo. I had graves disease over 12 years ago. I took carbimazole for about 8 years, and all my endo wanted was for me to drink that stuff! I refused and am so glad I did, because today I am drug free and have a normal fuctioning thyroid. I would of been dead if I had taken the radioactive iodine, and I would of been on an artificial thyroxine. I tried lots of things and I couldn't tell you any one thing did it. But just eat a really good diet, don't smoke, don't drink too much, and try all the herbs that support a thyroid, vitamins and mineral, fish oil etc. Listen to your body it will tell you what it needs. It's a wonder I don't rattle when I walk with the amount of herbs I put down my throat :-) Good Luck.
Posted by Kukuipu
Hi Everyone, First, I want to thank everyone for sharing real advice and help that most of the doctors and medical professionals can't give.

I have been diagnosed with Graves Disease 7 months ago. When I was diagnosed it was medium to severe. Of course they tried to put me on the medication, and send me to the radioactive treatment. I refused both. I can't see that any of those two options would help me to 'cure' that disease. I think that if any, they bring something else, not good, in addition to what you already have. So I started researching the internet for natural help.

After 2 months the bulging eye symptom associated w/ Graves started. I had already taken selenium (from 1st day of diagnosis, max safe dosage) and bugleweed, as well as some other herbal remedies. When the eyes started bulging, I knew I had to do more. I researched auto immune disease more than Graves, started on Aloe Vera and fresh Grapefuit juice, as well as Omega 3 (Dr. Murphy's - correct ratio), and Flaxoil. The Omega 3, taken with every meal did it. My eyes were back to normal (they were NOT far out) within 1 week. I did the ALCAT test and a nutrient test, and the results were Selenium deficiency, even after I had taken the max dose since 6 months. So Selenium definitely is key, as well as anti-inflammatory nutrition. I am about to have another lab test done in 3-4 weeks, and we shall see. My nutrients test brought back excellent Vit C, D, A, K, Calcium, etc. levels, due to the fact that I really eat what's beneficial vs. what's good. Not always easy, but definitely the way to go if your body is battling something. I was however missing gluthatione and folic acid, which I'm taking now too.

Posted by Sweety
Des Moines, Iowa
Hi, For graves disease pls consult a accupunture treatment. I had graves disease and I took accupunture treatment and now it is completely cured.

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Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand)

Yes, a good way to get rid of Graves' Disease is to use the same protocol as the Lupus treatment that I mentioned on earthclinic. They work similarly. In addition the body's adrenal exhaustion may be at issue in Graves' Disease so try to take now and then a teaspoon of licorice extract. Since DHEA is an adrenal issue also, taking some of this may also help temporarily for the body to deal with adrenal exhaustion. This will allow the body to reset its hormonal system in balance.

Finally if you have a pathogen at issue, I suggest to take a couple of drops of 3% food grade H2O2 3-6 per glass of water. Don't use the drug store brand, as they have additives. Sometimes allergens that initiate a Grave's disease is coming from the skin. So spray lightly a weak solution 1-3% H2O2 over arms, feet and legs. At least it will remove the allergen source.

EC: Ted's remedies for Lupus are here:

Posted by Beverlee
Groveland, Florida, Usa
Hi, I have been diagnosed with Graves Disease, over 6 years ago and I am still suffering from a few symptoms. Of course, when I was first diagnosed I was put on Tapozole and then surgery or the radioactive pill was recommend. Just to name a few of my symptoms, I did have the bulging eyes, lost a lot of weight, heart palpitations, tremors, sensitivity to heat, sweating and the list goes on. I also have goiters. I no longer have the bulging eyes and my weight is no longer an issue but I pretty much still have the other symptoms.

After researching the web and reading a few books, I decided to stop using the medication because it damages the liver and definitely not go with surgery and the quick fix pill. I was told with either option I would be on medication for the rest of my life.

I have yet to find a Dr (covered under my insurance) who will work with alternative methods. I know they are out there but because of financial situation I can't afford to pay out of pocket to visit these Drs. I know a person should never put a price tag on their health but unfortunately that is where I am right now. I'm still hopefully I may find a Dr under my insurance that will take my beliefs into account but until then I am still searching the web and have used this website many times and I'm so thankful it exists.

Since I don't have the guidance of a medical professional, I have been over whelmed on the direction I should take and which methods I should use to cure my disease. I know diet is extremely important and have been trying to adjust my eating habits. I did try to go vegetarian for a year but I think I was putting to much soy into my body and started eating meat and dairy again. I have cut back on the dairy but have a weakness for cheese. I also try not to eat red meat or pork and stick mostly with chicken or fish. I also think I shouldn't drink alcohol but unfortunately since I'm human I tend to have an occasional social drink once in a while. I have tried to eat organic whenever possible. I'm just now adding supplements to my diet. And because of this website, I have been drinking and taking apple cider vinegar pills.

Here is where I might get confused and have some questions. I do know I am iodine deficient and I've recently (4 days ago) started using liquid kelp. I plan on switching to a higher potent (milligrams instead of micrograms)capsule. Is there a difference in Bladderwrack and Kelp? I also want to add Bugleweed Motherwort Compound, Selenium and Extra Virgin Coconut Oil. I'm wondering if this is too much and don't want to over dose myself. Or if iodine is even good for someone who is hyper and not hypo?

I eventually want start doing what you recommended for the Lupus treatment but I'm sure I'll have many questions to ask once I cross that bridge. And finally (for now) I was wondering what the symptoms might be or how would I know if my body's adrenal exhaustion may be at issue or if I have a pathogen at issue?

I thank you so much for your time and please keep up the good work you do for Earth Clinic!

Posted by Lisa
Atlanta, Ga.
9 Posts
I read that magnesium chloride flakes were good for this.
Posted by Mel
Toronto, Canada
I am 26yrs old and have been diagnosed with hyperthyroidism almost a year ago and now I look like a frog. I was wondering... Does bugleweed help with bulging eyes?
Posted by Bcnu147
Anacortes, Wa, United States
This is a quote from a book dated 1913 called, The Herb Bugleweed. I don't know if this is accurate or not but this is what it says, " Therapeutic Uses, Benefits and Claims of Bugleweed
Traditionally, this herb has been used to cure coughs and respiratory disorders. It is also thought of as a natural remedy for sleeplessness.

Bugleweed is a natural source of phytochemical compounds, including various tannins; lithospermic acid; lycopine; flavonoid glycosides; phenolic derivatives such as caffeic acid, chlorogenic acid, ellagic acid and rosmarinic acid; essential oil; magnesium; and resin. Bugleweed's medicinal properties are said to be due to the presence of lithospermic acid, as well as the other organic acids in the plant's extract.

The Herb Bugleweed
(Lycopus virginicus)
Britton & Brown Illustrated Flora
2nd Edition (1913)
American bugleweed (Lycopus virginicus) and its European counterpart gypsywort (Lycopus europaeus) were widely used in folk medicine for and treating anxiety, tuberculosis and heart palpitations. Bugleweed extracts were also utilized by gypsies of old as a cosmetic as this herb is a major component for manufacturing black dye, hence the common name "gypsywort".
Extracts from this herb are thought to aid in normalizing heart rate, which is indicative of its potential as an alternative treatment for tachycardia.

Bugleweed is used as an alternative treatment to hormone therapy. Components of the plant may lower the levels of the thyroid-stimulating hormone and thyroxine. This action could be due to the inhibitory effect of the herbal drug on the binding of the antibodies to the thyroid gland.

Bugleweed herb is commonly used as a natural treatment for some symptoms of Grave's disease, such as palpitations and convulsions. The herbal activity is sufficient for mild cases of the disease and is considered safe for long term administration.

Bugleweed is traditionally used to stop iodine conversion in the thyroid gland and can be used as a natural treatment for hyperthyroidism and related diseases. Bugleweed extracts mainly affect the vascular tissues, as well as the sympathetic nervous system.
The leaves of bugleweed may also be used as a natural cure for wounds and abrasions."

Posted by Sam
Knoxville, Tennessee
13 Posts
I was diagnosed with Grave's disease in 2008. It is a long battle, using natural cures. Originally, all of my symptoms vanished through my use of Co Q-10, L-Lysine, Selenium and Lugol's Iodine smeared onto my thyroid by a dropper. From 2009 to 2012, there were no symptoms (fast heart rate, bulging eyes/neck, nervousness were all kept in check by seemingly being normal). One key signal for me that all was not right was the runs (diarrhea). Recently, I thought about it and bounced off questions and answers about hyperthyroidism with a friend. My solution to fixing the problem was Kelp (Iodine tablets), since most pharmacies will not give you Lugol's Iodine without a prescription.

1. Kelp tablets (150 mcg, brand name is NOW). One a day. I snap it in half with my fingers and swallow both halves.

2. Homemade banana pancakes to act as a sealant or to harden by bowel movements. It was either the pancakes or Lipton tea.

Finally, finally, finally! The Grave's disease is where it belongs as the name implies, in the grave. Watch your vitamin intake, sometimes vitamins can be a big jolt to the body. It's better to eat foods that contain the vitamins than to take the outright pill, unless your suffering from a specific disease that requires immediate vitamin attention. But even with Grave's disease only one pill is needed, an iodine tablet. If there are any changes in my thyroid, I'll post it up on Earthclinic first. Everything is good to go. I sleep like a baby every night, minus the waking up every two-hours to cry.

Posted by Steph
Vashon, Wa - Washington
2 Posts
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]   Sea Kelp. I too have severe Graves and have started taking kelp. Amazing how much better I feel. Went off the Methimazole completely. Numbers from blood work were high, but I feel so much better. Just started taking a popular juice supplement today said to build the immune system. I will keep you all posted. I have decided to try the natural approach as I feel the doctors and medicine have only made me sicker. I never had a problem with my eyes untill I went on the medicine. Coincidence... I doubt it. Thanks everyone for sharing your stories this disease is lonely and scary and it helps to read others experiences. Good health to us all!
Posted by Loraine
Orlando, Fl
Hi Steph.... Can you advice what type of sea kelp you used? I am hypothyroid and had purchased a bottle of kelp to use. I couldn't though because when I read the bottle, it clearly stated that the product was considered to be carcinogenic in California. Needless to say I dumped it. I really wanted to try the kelp though so your input would be appreciated. Thank you

2 Posts
Hi Lorraine. I have been taking Puritans Pride brand sea kelp. I break up a 250mg tablet and only take about half to 3/4 throughout the day. I have a friend who knows alot about supplements and said this is the best brand. Everything I've read says its good for hypothyroidism. I am hyper so taking kelp is rather unconventional. All I know is I feel better than I have since I was diagnosed a year and a half ago. If you do try it start small cut in quarters and take your first dose at night when your home to be sure how it affects you. Kelp isn't like any other supplement you will feel your first dose.
Posted by Loraine
Orlando, Fl
Thank you Steph. Will definitely try.
Posted by Paloma
I read a few postings and was very surprised that some people advising to take kelp for an overactive thyroid (Hyperthyroidism) treatment. I am sorry, but that is complete misinformation. Kelp should profoundly NOT be taken in case of hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid). Graves' disease is when your thyroid is producing too much thyroid hormone. Kelp will increase your thyroid activity.

Kelp supose to be taken only by individuals that suffer from hypothyroidism, to boost their thyroid function.

Bugleweed is an herbal remedy to treat your overactive thyroid, DO NOT take kelp if you suffer from Graves disease.

Posted by Shawn
Stanhope, Ia
I was diagnosed with graves disease 3 years ago after I lost a great deal of weight quickly. I was given all the terrible options of the medicines and of course radiation... I told my dr I didnt like any of the options but decided on the medicine instead. Then went home and researched natural cures.

My conclusion, bugleweed and lemon balm. I returned to my dr after 30 days (which I was supposed to be seeing how I was doing on medication which I did not take at all) My dr said he had never seen such a great improvement in anyone's numbers in such a short time, his conclusion was to have me stay on the previously subscribed dosage. I then dropped the bomb that I had not taken his medicine but instead chose to try natural medicine. He just looked at me and said that he couldn't recommend that to his patients. I just told him to at least tell his other patients of my experience and let them decide for themselves. I have not had to have regular blood drawn to check my numbers for 2 years and continue to stay in remission from Graves Disease. Please at least try this before drastic measures. Good luck. Oh I continue to take small doses of each just for good measure!!

Posted by Lori
Weatherford, Tx
I have been diagnosed with graves disease. I'm currently Taking methimozole but worried about the side effects. I read the posts about lemon balm and bugleweed. How much of each should I take?
Posted by Remi
Sparks, Md. Usa
Has anyone tried Ted's Cure for Graves Disease?


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