Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Anal Fissure
- Blood Pressure
- Body Odor
- Eliminates Chocolate Cravings
- Epsom Salts as a Source of Magnesium
- General Feedback
- Heart Palpitations and Anxiety
- Heart Rhythm Issues
- Kidney Stones
- Leg Cramps
- Low Magnesium Indicator
- Magnesium Bicarbonate Solution
- Magnesium Chloride
- Magnesium L-Threonate
- Magnesium Malate
- Magnesium Oil
- Magnesium Side Effects
- Menstrual Cramps
- Mental Illness
- Multiple Cures
- Muscle Weakness, Essential Tremors
- Nebulizing Magnesium
- Premature Ejaculation
- Reader Feedback
- Recipe for Magnesium-Rich Drinking Water
- Restless Leg Syndrome
- Toothache, Nerve Sensitivity
- Transdermal Magnesium Therapy
- Types of Magnesium
- Where to Buy
- Where to Buy: Magnesium Chloride
Last Modified on Jan 05, 2014<< Continued from page 4
Awler from Lagos, Nigeria : "So, in what form do you get your magnesium. Just asking for mag. in most pharmaceutical shops sounds like you dont know what you want. Pls help, how do I ask for it in the shops?"
Recipe for Magnesium-Rich Drinking Water
[YEA] 02/05/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Everyone...I've been drinking Magnesium Water for the past 3 months. I create a litre of Mag Water from plain soda water and Phillip's Milk of Magnesia(no aluminium) according to this recipe here:
"FOUR EASY STEPS FOR MAKING THE MAGNESIUM/BICARBONATE DRINKING WATER CALLED "WW", USING MAGNESIUM HYDROXIDE IN "MILK OF MAGNESIA", AND CARBON DIOXIDE IN "CARBONATED WATER"
The chemical formula is Mg(OH)2 plus (CO2)2 --> Mg(HCO3)2
Step 1: CHILL COMPLETELY TO REFRIGERATOR TEMPERATURE A 1 LITER BOTTLE OF "FULLY CARBONATED" WATER. Carbonated waters such as "Canada Dry Seltzer" which consist of only water and carbon dioxide (CO2) are suitable. "Club sodas" such as "Schweppes Club Soda" are also suitable; they are carbonated water with a small amount of added sodium.
Step 2: SHAKE WELL A BOTTLE OF PLAIN MILK OF MAGNESIA (MoM), THEN MEASURE OUT AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE 3 TBS (45 ml) AND HAVE IT READY. The plastic measuring cup that comes with the MoM is accurate and ideal for the purpose. Use only plain MoM without flavorings, sweeteners, mineral oil, or other additives. The "active ingredient" should be only magnesium hydroxide (Mg(OH)2), 400 mg per teaspoon (5 ml), and the "inactive ingredient" should be only purified water. 41.7% by weight of magnesium hydroxide is magnesium (Mg), so 1 teaspoon of MoM has 167 mg of Mg, and 1 tablespoon (TBS) has 500 mg of Mg (1 TBS = 15 ml).
Step 3: REMOVE THE BOTTLE OF CARBONATED WATER FROM THE REFRIGERATOR WITHOUT AGITATING IT. REMOVE THE CAP SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY TO MINIMIZE THE LOSS OF CO2. SLOWLY ADD THE PREMEASURED MoM, THEN PROMPTLY REPLACE THE CAP. Next, shake the bottle vigorously for 15 to 30 seconds, making the liquid cloudy. After 1/2 hour or so the liquid will have cleared, and any un-dissolved Mg-hydroxide will have settled to the bottom of the bottle. Again shake the bottle vigorously for 15 to 30 seconds, making the liquid cloudy again. When the liquid again clears all of the Mg hydroxide in the MoM should have reacted with all of the CO2 to become dissolved (ionized) magnesium and bicarbonate. However, if a small amount of un-dissolved Mg hydroxide still remains in the bottom of the bottle as a sediment it may be ignored. This 1 liter of concentrated magnesium bicarbonate water will have 1,500 mg of magnesium and 7,500 mg of bicarbonate. This concentrate must be diluted in order to be "WW".
Step 4: DILUTE THIS CONCENTRATE 11:1 TO MAKE DRINKABLE MAGNESIUM/BICARBONATE WATER (WW). To make 4 liters of WW measure and transfer 1/3 liter of the concentrate (333 ml) into a 4 liter container. Fill the container with 3 2/3 liters of plain, preferably purified water. Or, prepare a single glassful of WW by adding 11 ounces of water to 1 ounce of the concentrate. This drinkable water will have approximately 125 mg of Mg and 625 mg of bicarbonate per liter, at pH ~8.3. Other dilutions of the concentrate may of course be made, if so desired.
Taken from here:
The effects of drinking cups of this Mag water throughout the day have been very positive. My BM has become more regular, no more cramps and I don't get so tired -- no longer have a nap in the afternoons now. But the most remarkable effect is that I sleep so well and always wake up early full of energy, happy, aware and wide-awake with no aches or pains(I'm 60 y o).No brain fog or grogginess. Magnesium seems to have a wonderful effect on the brain for sure.
For the past month I have also added 2 teaspoons of sea salt and 1/4 teaspoon of borax to one litre of the Mag Water according to Ted's Remedy Combination Rules here:
I added the sea salt and borax to this Mag Water because the sea salt supplies many other essential body minerals and also acts as an powerful antibiotic. The borax acts as an super-effective anti-fungal, a hormone balancer, and is also very good for the bones.
My next project is to put together a simple detox drink to be taken for short periods only and based on water, to get rid of heavy metals, dangerous halides and other food poisons from the body. I'll use Sodium Thiosulhate, Borax, Iodine, Tannic Acid etc as specified on this site by Ted. I'm researching their safety in combination right now. Perhaps Ted, with his vast knowledge of chemicals, could help here, since I'm finding this a little hard going at the moment.
What I want to do is just to make up another simple drink based on just water that can easily detox heavy metals, aluminium, halides and poisons from my body in one go. This drink to be taken occasionally and only when needed, for short periods of 3-4 days only."
02/28/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskachewan, Canada replies: "Hi Bill:
Thanks for this excellent recipe! Would you mind teling me what brand of borax you use? Is it the 40 Mule Team Borax used for laundry? i am very uncomfortable using something that is for laundry. Thanks very much!"
02/28/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Mary...I just use the ordinary 20 Mule Team Borax brand and it is the one used for laundry. You can also purchase others -- notably the Red Mill borax brand which is guaranteed pure and aluminum free (found in most Health shops)."
02/28/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan, Canada replies: "Thank you so much for the borax info, will be looking for some this week!"
02/28/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada replies: "Hi Bill:
I am asking you alot of questions, thanks. just went to a website that said borax was dangerous. http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=705996
Do you feel okay about using it? Could not find Red Mill brand anywhere online. Do you know of another brand?
EC: Hi Mary,
Here's our feedback page on borax: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/borax.html
03/01/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Mary...I've been using borax as a spray with Mag sulphate in solution and I've also been taking trace borax in water internally(1/4 tspn in 1 litre of water) for about 4 months now and I have found it to be beneficial with no ill effects. The reason I take borax is to protect myself against fleas, ticks etc (I live in the tropics), to protect myself internally and externally against fungus and to balance my hormones and endocrine system. New research has also determined that supplementing boron or borax is an aid in preventing osteoporosis and seems to work with magnesium in the regulation of calcium within the body.
The brand that I use is 20 Mule Team Borax, which I regard as safe and fairly pure. Their site lists the ingredient as Sodium Tetraborate -- or Borax. See the link here:
On the above link, if you click the Product Info tab, and go to the bottom, the only ingredient listed is Sodium Tetraborate or Borax.
Regarding the other info you provided, I investigated this, and their were many recommendations by the FDA that borax was dangerous during rerpoduction as well as cancer causing.
So I did my own investigation. Here is the MSDS(Material Data Safety Sheet) -- which is the absolute research bible on all chemical substances -- and if you read the Toxicolgical Info portion of this data sheet, you will note that the conclusions were that there were no known or anticipated reproductive or mutagenic effects. This conclusion was determined by the IARC. As for recommendations by the FDA, I'm afraid I wouldn't trust their advice anymore than I would trust the Fed, and for the same reasons.
One thing was very noticable in the link you provided, in all the recommendations that were given on toxicity, no AMOUNTS or QUANTITIES were ever shown. After all, if you ate a whole cupful of ordinary table salt, that would have some pretty strange effects wouldn't it? Yet we eat SMALL amounts of salt every day. It is the same with borax when taken internally, it is taken in trace amounts only.
Also, when you compare the MSDS datasheet toxicity of Borax to ordinary table salt(Sodium Chloride), table salt turns out to be technically more poisonous than borax. Here is the MSDS sheet for ordinary table salt:
If you type in "boron benefits" in Google search you will see further reasons and health benefits for taking borax in small amounts. Boron is always taken as a borate salt, and if you buy boron supplements and check the label, you will be taking borax.
Their are even people on EC that swear by using ordinary borax as a hair and scalp conditioner. See this link:
03/02/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "I forgot to include the link to the MSDS data sheet for Sodium Tetraborate(Borax). Here it is:
03/02/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan, Canada replies: "Hi Bill:
Thank you so much for your thoughtful and intelligent posts and for this response. You have been successful at putting my fears to rest. I see the value in borax!
Quite frankly the reason I question it is an incident that happend a year ago. I used Teds mange cure on my little dog. It worked like a charm, i felt like it was returning more life to him. Like he was being oxygenated. However at exactly that time ( may be a coincidence) he had 2 identical lumps/curves pop up in front of his hip bones on either side. I thought his kidneys were swollen and inflamed. I felt very bad about giving him the pinch of borax in his water. Vet said not his kidneys but fat? i cannot see it, they are sort of hard not squishy like fat, and identical. thats is why I have such a concern about the borax.
I am really at a loss because the dog needs borax, now. He has all kinds of things going on with him.
thanks again, i really enjoy reading your contributions!"
03/02/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan, Canada replies: "Again thank you Bill will read. May I ask you again about your mag water recipe? Bought the Philips Milk of Magnesia and it had another ingredient! Under header non medicinal ingredients it lists sodium hypochlorite. So in the reaction between the carbonated water and the milk of magnesia i wonder how this ingredient changes things. I did not notice this when I was reading. Perhaps I need another brand. What do you think? Thanks!"
EC: Hi Mary, check out Connie from Manitowoc, Wisconsin's post (07/30/2009) in this section: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/milk-of-magnesia.html#RF
The sodium hypochlorite (bleach) is probably what makes Phillips Milk of Magnesia an effective remedy for body odor!
03/02/2010: Pr from Houston, Texas replies: "Hi Bill, I spent time in the Ozarka mountain in the summertime and the ticks and chiggers are so bad you can't get out and enjoy the beauty. My question is how dose the borax protect against the ticks and other critters? Thanks!!!"
03/02/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Mary...I doubt very much that the lumps on the side of your dog's legs are caused by washing your dog with borax, because borax is so poorly absorbed through the skin. These lumps, depending on their size, could be either due to fat or possibly even calcium deposits.
From my own experience, I had small fatty or calcium build up in small lumps on the back of my own neck. I got rid of this by supplementing magnesium sulphate(epsom salts), 1/4 tspn in a glass of water twice a day. This also got rid of a large ganglion lump on my wrist (been there for a year) at the same time.
Depending on whether your dog is a small dog or a large dog, I would add magnesium sulphate crystals, at an 1/8 or 1/4 tspn respectively, dissolved in his drinking water daily. If your dog gets diarrhea, then simply reduce the dose. This should help to remove the lump deposits if they are calcium and magnesium supplementation certainly wont hurt your dog.
If these lumps are fat deposits then your dog might be reacting to poisons/pollution, since, in the human body, heavy metals, acids etc., which are not good for the body are often hidden in fats as a body defense. So the best thing would perhaps be to mix chopped cilantro or coriander leaves in with his meals everyday. Cilantro also removes heavy metals safely.
To get rid of any acid formation, you could also use sodium bicarbonate with ACV in his drinking water to alkalize.
I must appologize for not being so helpful with your dog's problems, the best I can really recommend is advise you to look at the pet section of EC for you to get more ideas.
03/02/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Mary...I bought my Phillip's MoM in UK and it does not contain Sodium Chlorite -- only glycerol, saccharine and peppermint as additives. I guess you have different drug rules in Canada.
Sodium Chlorite is normally combined with lemon juice or citric acid to create MMS, another healing compound. But I really have no idea what the reaction would be with Milk of Magnesia and its constituent -- sodium chlorite -- with carbonic acid (soda water) and, therefore I really cannot recommend that you use your Canadian version of Phillip's MoM for creating magnesium bicarbonate water.
Another way of creating a form of magnesium water is simply to add 1 tspn Epsom salts(mag sulphate) to 1 litre of ordinary drinking water and drink this through the day(I do this too). This will supply the necessary magnesium to the body. To get your bicarbonates, you could simply alkalize twice a day with one of Ted's alkalizing remedies.
03/02/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan, Canada replies: "Dear Bill:
I did give my little dog borax to injest in his water as per Ted's remedy. The lumps are not like ganglions or fatty tumors although he has those elsewhere (so thanks will be trying the magnesium ASAP) but are like something in there is inflamed. Both identical in size like his kidneys are inflamed and it is not really noticable unles one were to look closely, but I can feel them. Anyway, from what I understand you saying and from all the info you posted, borax should not hurt him or people. Will report back on how the magnesium worked to remove the lumps he has (vet has already removed once!)"
05/20/2010: Markb from Boston, Ma replies: "Regarding Bill from San F. Your link to the 20 Mule Team Website had some interesting information, not least of which is a section about historical uses for their Borax including "aid digestion, keep milk sweet and even cure epilepsy". They also mentioned that it is used in medicine! This is directly from their site:
Borates, borax and boron compounds are with us throughout our lives. Mothers use it to soak and wash diapers and other laundry, but it's also an ingredient in cosmetics, medicines, ceramics and building materials. The biggest industrial user of borates is the glass industry (especially fiberglass), and it's an important ingredient in agricultural chemicals and fire retardants.
In earlier times, 20 Mule Team® Borax was proclaimed to be a magical crystal and was used to aid digestion, keep milk sweet and even cure epilepsy. Common sense and modern technology have brought us better solutions to these and other problems, but 20 Mule Team® Borax still has a place in your home.
My point is to thank you for the link. I was a bit skeptical like others but it certainly sounds like it's been in our food supply whether we knew it or not."
06/06/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Mary...Yes, I had this also from another EC user who was from Canada, asking about Philips MoM. I'm from UK and I know for a fact the UK brand Philips MoM does not contain either aluminium or sodium hypochlorite. This obviously has something to do with Canadian Drug Law I think. Peculiar.
If you're worried about the chlorine, you can supplement with 2-3 lugol's iodine per day or supplement with kelp or chlorella. This will remove all dangerous halides from your body as well as remove heavy metals like cadmium, lead and mercury as well.
By the way, the advice and answer to your question from EC is spot on correct. But if you still can't find it, try ordering the UK Philips brand from UK off the internet.
At a push, you could also just supplement mag citrate or mag chloride oil(ten drops in a glass of water) or take magnesium sulfate (epsom salts) baths and simply supplement with 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate in half a glass of water twice a day. As Ted has said, supplementing this way causes the bicarbonates in the blood to drag the magnesium into the cell during respiration and would, perhaps, have the same effect as the Mag Water or Magnesium Bicarbonate water."
06/06/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan replies: "Hi All, this question is for you Bill (Philippines Bill)
Your mag water cured my headache, relaxed my back thanks! it truly is a Unique Water! But upon looking at the ingredients in my Milk of Magnesia I realized that it contained sodium hypochlorite! We both know what that is, are they serious! My question is should I toss it because the last batch worked so well. How dangerous and counterproductive do you deem this to be?
Should I look harder and see if maybe there is another brand?
EC: Hi Mary,
Not all Milk of Magnesia brands contains sodium hypochlorite. The Phillips' formula does contain it, however we found a generic brand of MoM at Publix (a grocery store chain) without it.
06/08/2010: Bessie from Calgary, Alberta, Canada replies: "Hi Mary from Saskatchewan! Instead of Phillips Milk of Magnesia (which you mentioned contained unwanted ingredients), you may want to try the generic version from Shopper's Drug Mart (and it's cheaper!). The ingredients are: magnesium hydroxide (non-medicinal ingredients are potassium sorbate and purified water). I think the generic versions from other pharmacies (or even Wal-Mart) may have fewer ingredients than the Phillips brand has. Good luck!"
06/09/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan replies: "thank you so much Bessie for the Shoppers generic MOM source! I'm on it! Mary"
[YEA] 07/03/2007: Rick from New Bloomfield, PA: "No particular ailment, but I have been interested in Magnesium supplementation ever since I had a couple of "racing heart" episodes several years back, and discovered that I could calm things down by taking Epsom Salts (Magnesium Sulfate) in water... awful taste and also a powerful laxative. I began to wonder how I could get the same effect in a more palatable way, without the laxative effect. Eventually I found the"Magnesium" webpage and learned the following:
How to make your own Magnesium water [like the 'Noah' water being sold by a certain company, which bottles water from a spring that is naturally rich in bicarbonates of Magnesium].
The assumption is that we could all use more magnesium in our diet, which may help reduce blood pressure, reduce the likelihood of kidney stones, etc.
Here's how to make your own Mg-rich drinking water:
Buy a bottle of Carbonated Seltzer water - NO SODIUM, just carbonated "fizz" water, unflavored. Refrigerate for a couple of hours.
Get another, larger bottle, and pour 2/3 of a capful of PLAIN (no-flavor) Philips Milk of Magnesia (which is Magnesium Oxide, an alkaline laxative) into the large bottle. (The bottle comes with a plastic measuring cup which is what I mean when I say 2/3 capful.)
Now quickly open the bottle of carbonated water (water + carbonic acid) and empty it into the large bottle containing the 2/3 capful of Magnesia.
You will have a bottle of milky/cloudy liquid which is in the process of neutralization between the carbonic acid and the magnesium oxide-- leaving a neutral salt, Magnesium Bicarbonate.
Let the cloudy mixture sit for a while at room temperature, until the liquid clears; there will be some white precipitate at the bottom. Shake again and let sit again. When clear, refrigerate. THIS IS YOUR MAGNESIUM BICARBONATE CONCENTRATE. Unlike the chalky taste of straight Milk of Magnesia, or the biting-fizzy taste of seltzer water, your concentrate will have a strong, sweet, slightly "soapy" taste. You will be DILUTING it in water for drinking purposes.
When it has chilled, pour a small amount into an empty 1 liter bottle (approx. 1/2" of concentrate at the bottom) and fill the rest of the bottle with pure drinking water.
You have now created a sweet-tasting, Magnesium-enriched drinking water, and you're also getting your Bi-carbs without all the Sodium you'd be getting from Baking Soda.
I have been making and drinking this Mg water since Nov. 2006 (I write this in July of 2007) and have not had any bad effects from it. I take a bottle to work and sip it during the day. My resting heart rate seems to have gone down and I feel more relaxed in general. I can't say it has greatly improved my high blood pressure, but it has helped some, and I know I am getting enough Magnesium. Probably would be beneficial to supplement with Calcium for balance.
Try it and see what it does for you."Replies
08/11/2007: Usman from Islamabad, Pakistan replies: "I read the magnesium-enriched water formula on magnesium supplements page. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but isn't Philips Milk of Magnesia Magnesium Hydroxide rather than "Magnesium Oxide" mentioned in the formula.
It might be a typo error or the author maybe using some other type of milk of magnesia which is not readily available. Does the formula works with Magnesium Hydroxide Milk of Magnesia as well?"
09/09/2007: Rick from New Bloomfield, Pennsylvania replies: "Regarding my remarks about making your own "Mg Water" by mixing carbonated water and Milk of Magnesia (laxative):' Usman from Islamabad is correct; I mistakenly said that Milk of Magnesia contains "Magnesium Oxide." Instead, please substitute "Magnesium Hydroxide" when you read my instructions. Sorry for the blunder! Yes, Usman, you should use regular, unflavored Philip's Milk of Magnesia and a liter bottle of carbonated water, non-sodium type."
Restless Leg Syndrome
[YEA] 11/27/2007: Linda from Orlando, FL: "I have suffered from RLS most of my life (I'm 47)and discovered the link between RLS and mineral deficiency about 20 years ago. I have supplemented with Potassium, Calcium and Iron. I cook my own food, eat very little processed stuff, and have always craved spinach and broccoli (I even like brussel sprouts!). But even eating all the right stuff, I still need the supplements. I also suffer from endometriosis (horrible female problem), which I think is also related somehow to the mineral deficiency. I have been taking Blackstrap Molasses (full of good minerals) for about a year to try to combat those symptoms. I haven't experienced the "miracle cure" other women have written about, but at least I'm off the Percocet! Recently I have been reading on this site about magnesium supplementation. Am I right to think that low magnesium can cause malabsorption of other minerals? I'm going to try it for a while and see what happens."Replies
11/11/2008: Antares from Tamuning, GU replies: "Well, I think it was probably the magnesium that rid me of my (undiagnosed) endomitriosis symptoms."
Toothache, Nerve Sensitivity
[YEA] 01/01/2008: Nadine from North Bergen, NJ: "Hi, I've recently begun taking Magnesium Citrate in powder form on a near daily basis along with blackstrap molasses. I'd had a very painful toothache for several weeks (in addition to or resulting in an earache..) and without dental insurance I really can't afford a dentist. After about 3-4 days of taking a teaspoon of magnesium the pain was completely gone! I also no longer have any sensitivity from sweet or very hot/cold foods and beverages. I've made this remedy part of my daily routine and hope to discover more health benefits of this great mineral.
This brings me to something I hoped perhaps Ted or another reader may shed some light on; I came across something called Transdermal Magnesium Therapy which allows the body to absorb magnesium through the skin, and it's supposedly superior to oral supplementation. Several articles mention that magnesium chloride is the preferred form, although they don't describe the application method. They only refer to Magnesium Oil which is a little pricey. Is there a homemade version of this therapy? I appreciate your help, thanks in advance!"Replies
07/14/2009: Ken from Denver, Colorado replies: "Use 100% dead sea salts or combined with the pure magnesium chloride flakes in a soaking bath. Dead sea salts are cheaper and have other trace supplemental minerals including potassium with the magnesium chloride. Also buy in bulk and look for periodic sales with free shipping. I soak about 1 to 2 times weekly using 3 - 4 cups dead sea salts in a full warm bath for 30 minutes or so. Many benefits including control of athlete's foot, rapid healing of cuts and scratches from my cat, rapid recovery from muscle soreness, relief of minor pains and aches and the main heath benefits of better heart function, general good health, etc. Also enforced downtime to catch up on reading! One caution - don't use cheaper industrial mag chloride.
I am ever puzzled by why absorbing trace minerals through the skin is universally ignored in favor of oral supplementation or eating mountains of salads even when the need for supplements is recognized. If you have low magnesium you can't easily absorb ingested supplements anyhow, creating a vicious cycle. In my case I developed a serious magnesium and potassium deficiency running marathons and then supplemented orally for years with 500 mg. magnesium chelates without much effect. After I started soaking, heart palpitations disappeared and the other benefits made themselves felt over a couple of months of frequent soaking. If I miss a week I can tell the difference and it's always a pleasure to restore the soaking routine."
Transdermal Magnesium Therapy
12/31/2011: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland: "Hi Debbie, I think that you are the magnesium chloride expert around here so here are a few questions for you, or for anyone else who cares to answer!
I have started to read Mark Sircus' book about transdermal magnesium therapy but I have to say that he repeats himself a lot and although he does give very interesting information I didn't yet get to the bits that interest me. One question, he seems to use magnesium oil he buys somewhere but it seems that one can make it oneself by adding water to the magnesium flakes (I use Nigari flakes). According to what I have read to far the ratio should be 50% water to 50% magnesium. He has another ratio, what do you think?
He also talks about using magnesium oil for wrinkles. Being 54 that interests me but I tried to rub the 50% oil on my face and I felt too much of a burning sensation. Any thoughts on that? In the meanwhile I have diluted my oil but haven't tried it again on my face. If I rub it somewhere else I don't feel any burning.
Right now I am using it on my husband's knees as he was having some pain and am going to try it on a carcinoma he has on the top of his ear which seems to be more or less healed with the help of greater celendine but looks a bit dry right now. Should one only spray, should one rub? I find the book very interesting but with so many repetitions he never gets to where one wants to be, to the real information! No sea here for us to soak in but there is a spa pool with salty water not far from where we live which we want to try after the holidays (too busy now I'm sure....)!"Replies
12/31/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Hi Fransica, I am sure he repeats himself to fill the pages up! The only ratio I read about was 50/50 but I suppose it depends on how concentrated you want it and how you can take it although too concentrated and it would be too crystaline.
Rubbing it into the skin would give you a better uptake but spraying is fine as well (just whatever you prefer). The face is probably more sensitive so just water it down more until it doesn't burn.
PS: I just got a bottle of colloidal copper so I will let you know how that goes with gray hair."
01/01/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Thanks Debbie! And yes, he is trying to fill the pages, they do that a lot nowadays but I find it very annoying. I am not after thick books, I am after books with the information I need! But never mind.... I still hope he gives more useful information!
I found the more diluted solution more oily so we are using it that way now. I haven't tried it on my face again but I would be interested to see the effect on wrinkles as I am starting to have quite a few around my eyes.
I have never heard of colloidal copper but please keep me informed! I am using a oily herb extract called Herbamix which also says that it delays the onset of gray hair (a bit late for me.... ). It has helped my hair get healthier....."
06/16/2012: Elaine from Edmond, Oklahoma replies: "I have a question, Debbie. I have a large bag of Ice Melt, the kind you use in winter on your side walks and drive way. It says it is magnesium chloride. It's not flakes, but in rock form. Would you still do a one to one mixture? Thanks."
07/21/2011: Sa Gal from Johannesburg, South Africa: "can I give transdermal magnesium oil to my Dad, suffering from Parkinsons, with all his other medication, from his doctors, or will this clash?"
08/03/2009: Baldev from Mumbai, Maharashtra, India: "I have obtained Magnesium Chloride, I would like to know as to how to make my own Magnesium oil, to be used internally as well as for application.
EC: Read Jane's posts on the Parkinson's Disease page: http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/parkinsons.html#MBVC
Types of Magnesium
11/19/2012: Kathy from the USA: "I would like to know what the difference is between magnesium oxide and magnesium chloride. I have seen some posts that stress "not magnesium oxide. " I've been taking that for several years and wonder if I have done any harm to myself. I took magnesium citrate for awhile because it had been recommended by a neurosurgeon but the "citrate" caused PVC (premature ventricular contractions) that were very frightening. When I stopped taking the mag citrate they stopped. I resumed the mag oxide without any trouble. I found out that "citrate" is processed from corn."
07/20/2012: Leenott from Edmonton, Ab, Canada: "Can someone please explain to me what the difference is? If Magnesium Hydroxide dissolves in the air and becomes Magnesium Oxide, why is there a need for BOTH??
Can Mag Ox be used as a transdermal oil? I read a while back somewhere that Mag Hydroxide as an oil can be used on the skin.
How does this differ from Mag, Chloride??
HELP needed! Beverley N in Australia"Replies
07/21/2012: Robert Henry from Ten Mile, Tn Usa replies: "HI U LEENOTT, Magnesium is deficient in most folks and plays havoc with their bones, sleep etc. Until recently it would mess up folks bowels if taken orally. Dang, Milk of Magnesia is a laxative. So what do you do because you need this mineral for lots of reasons? My wife takes Calm at night to help her sleep. It just gave me diarrhea. We use Epsom Salts in our mineral baths and I also use magnesium chloride as spray on my body in order to get magnesium into my body via transdermal therapy. Recently, the MIT folks came up with a form of Magnesium that you can take orally and not cause you problems. I have taken this supplement for about 3 months and it does not mess up my bowels and does help me get a better sleep. This supplement is MAGNESIUM L- THEONATE. It is not expensive, but it is new and hard to find. Try LEF.
Yo buddy =====ROBERT HENRY========"
07/23/2012: Plumhappy from Eugene, Oregon replies: "Perhaps you took too much of the Calm. One needs to work up to the recomended dose. 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon is plenty to start with and work your way up. It works wonders as a muscle relaxer and sleep aid when done that way. Yes it is a laxative when you take the recomended dose off the bat."
07/24/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Leenot... Magnesium Hydroxide and Magnesium Oxide are both not very soluble in water. Being so insoluble -- these forms of magnesium are not good sources of supplemental magnesium for the body.
Magnesium Oil is a mixture of Magnesium Chloride crystals(60%) and water(40%). Magnesium Chloride is probably the best form of magnesium to supplement. Magnesium bicarbonate is another useful form of magnesium with a myriad uses, but this form is very hard to find. Mag Chloride can also be taken into the body and directly into the blood transdermally, when the magnesium oil is simply rubbed onto the skin. Here is some research evidence as to why magnesium chloride is so good and so necessary for the body:
I'm currently reading a book by Mark Sircus called Transdermal Magnesium: A New Modality for the Maintenance of Health and it is full of very useful and informative facts about magnesium chloride. The links above will tell you all about the history and usefulness of magnesium chloride.
Other forms of magnesium that you can supplement are mag citrate and mag gluconate -- but for me the mag chloride transdermal form(as magnesium oil) is still the best one to take."
Where to Buy
11/18/2012: Suzy from Eugene, Or: "I just wanted share that I buy my Epsom Salt- Magnesium Sulfate Heptahydrate-- (9.8% magnesium by analysis) in 50 pound bags from my local livestock feed store. Cost is $20. I have been soaking in it for sore muscles. It says on the bag "for use in animal feed". I have never taken it internally, but if it is okay for a cow that would be good enough for me."
Where to Buy: Magnesium Chloride
10/16/2013: Xyrus from Benguet, Philippines: "Hi Bill,
I'm from Baguio City. I just have a quick question regarding Magnesium Chloride. Do you have any idea where we can purchase it in raw/pure but food grade form so I can make an emulsion out of it? I'll be using it to cure my son's tics. Thank you so much in advance and God bless everyone."Replies
10/16/2013: Bill Thompson from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Xyrus... You can order magnesium chloride online from Manila using this link:
You can order online or you can order by phone and they will deliver. The brand of magnesium chloride that they sell is well known and is a high quality product."
11/07/2013: Xyrus from Benguet, Philippines replies: "Hi Bill. I'm so sorry for the late reply. I've been busy lately. Thank you so much for posting the link. I appreciate it. Have a great evening and God bless everyone."
12/11/2011: Rudy from Lucena, Quezon,philippines: "To Jeff of cebu city, philippines, where did you buy your magnesium chloride here in the Philippines? Pls tell me the address and phone numbers, thank you"
07/30/2009: Deirdre from Earth Clinic: "For those of you wishing to make your own magnesium oil for transdermal magnesium therapy, I emailed Jane from Fort Worth recently (whom you may recall has been treating her father with Parkinson's by massaging him with magnesium oil she made every night) and asked where she bought her magnesium chloride. She responded that she bought the magnesium chloride on Ebay from a company called "Get Tanked". I researched this further on the web and found Get Tanked Aquariums, which is located in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. Here is the URL... This company sells High Purity Magnesium Chloride, Zero Ammonia.
I just called the owner of Get Tanked and ordered two 7 pound bags of magnesium chloride for $27.99 (plus shipping, which is costing $11.10 to Atlanta, GA from Carlisle). He told me he has plenty in stock and gets it shipped out same day delivery if he receives the order early enough in the day, Monday - Friday. He prefers to be called for orders and then sends an invoice via paypal. Otherwise you can buy from ebay.. here's his ebay store (and great reviews).
Please note: the owner told me twice that he sells this product for aquariums and cannot answer any questions about human use!!
Thought this would be a good resource to share with y'all as magnesium chloride in bulk is a difficult search."
EC: Read Jane's posts about Magnesium here: http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/parkinsons.html#MBVC
09/13/2011: Sarah from None, Bulacan Philippines replies: "Is there anyone from the philippines who can tell me where to buy magnesium chloride or nigari? thanks.."