04/29/2013: Linda from New Haven, Ct, United States: "Joyce, regarding your shoulder issue, both my husband and myself have rotator cuff issues. We have had very good results with turmeric powder. We take 1 teaspoon 2 or 3 times a day. We either mix it with a glass of milk or scramble it..."
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MSM Reader Feedback
[YEA] 07/23/2006: Charlie from Ft. Smith, AR: "I used both Apple Cider Vinegar and MSM to cure a "trigger finger". ' A big knot appeared on the inside of my thumb joint. It was EXTREMELY painful. I couldn't write or do anything with that hand. I didn't realize how important my thumb was. The dr. gave me a cortisone shot in it (ouch) and said if that didn't help, he would have to do surgery and cut the tendons in my thumb to try and relieve the pain. The cortisone shot didn't help. I received a magazine in the mail shortly after this talking about MSM. I decided I had nothing to lose by trying it. After a few weeks of using MSM, ALL the pain went away. (This all happened about 5 years ago). The knot was still there even though the pain was gone (it was a very obvious knot). I then started taking apple cider vinegar tablets and WOW, the knot disappeared!! It is still gone and so is the pain."
[YEA] 01/06/2006: Aujah from Huntington Beach, CA: "When i was a child my right hip would make a popping sound when i walked. Later on in life, after having a full pain in my hips i found out that my legs are different lengths and was on my way to having arthritis at the age of 21. A friend recommended MSM to help with my nail and hair growth (i can't keep up with how fast my hair and nails grow now). After a week of taking MSM my joint pain was completely gone!!! i was not expecting it at all. Every once in a wile i will forget to take MSM for a few days and my hip pain is back in full swing. I am hooked and it sure is nice to have such strong nail's and healthy long hair."
[YEA] Jane from Poulsbo, WA: "I have found that taking MSM seems to reduce pain from old injuries and arthritis. Also, MSM seems to add an essential nutrient to the system. It would be good to read one of the books written about this ingredient, nutritional sulphur, since it will answer many questions that people will have. I told a friend about MSM and he started to take it, and found he felt immensely less pain in his back."
[YEA] Belle from Los Angeles, CA: "I recently started to take MSM to help with neck pain. While it's too soon to tell if it is helping, I can report that it is making my nails grow like crazy!!"
07/26/2012: Plumhappy from Eugene, Oregon: "I have some interesting results from taking MSM. I am gluten intolerant (not celiac). Normally when I get into gluten, I get sores in my mouth, on my tongue, my tummy hurts bit, left side hurts, gas, bloating, burping, etc. Very loose stools the morning after. Last night, as I was making hamburgers, I decided to through caution out the door and have a bun with mine instead of wrapping in lettuce. HMMMM, none of the usual except for some slight roughness in my mouth and some sinuses plugged up.
I have been taking MSM since May for my knees (works like a charm). I started with 500mg 3x a day and am up to 10,000 per day( not all at once). I also went off coffee in may and started drinking Yerba Matte (a lot, lol. With a tad of stevia in it). I take Vit. C with the msm and nothing more for supplements. I never thought this might help my stomach troubles but it has. Also dairy has been a issue and is better. I don't plan on going hog wild with gluten but was wondering if anyone else noticed this when taking MSM. I have also lost 14lbs. Yeah, I am not a big gal, 5' 3" and usually wear size 8/10 so am very pleased since I needed to drop a few. Would like to hear from others on this. The tea has curbed my appetite nicely. I did the research on Yerba Matte and it seems that some of the bad hype on it is because they don't tell you that the research done was on native south americans who also smoke. Hard to trust all research since some of it is so biased."Replies
[YEA] 08/05/2012: Cate from Melbourne, Vic., Australia replies: "Hey Plumhappy. To some extent or another most people are gluten-intolerant. Go to marks daily apple dot com and learn about how destructive all grains are on the gut.
I've found relief after two days of 1/2 teaspoon 3 times a day of MSM in water or juice for a chronic shoulder problem. It would ache sitting here at the comp. Desk, lying in bed, cooking, doing dishes and driving, even walking around. Constant irritation, now gone. I'm so excited about this stuff.
Deidre, infinite blessings! : )"
[YEA] 11/08/2010: Lois from Quanah, Texas, Usa: "I had a bad shoulder pain in the joint. My elbow throbbed and my last three fingers were numb. I saw the Dr. I got a shot in the joint of the shoulder and after a couple of months I still hurt. I bought some MSM and took 4000 milligrams that morning, by afternoon it had stopped hurting. My fingers are no longer numb. I have copd and it has helped my breathing. I had a pulse ox of 90 sitting down and I noticed my pulse ox is 97 now. I find I can walk further. I have been on msm a month. I am so thankful for msm."
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 01/15/2010: John from Nyc, Ny: "I have been in the healing profession (practitioner, researcher, advocate) for 30 years, nothing comes close to my experience with MSM, I am so sorry it took this long to try it. My chronic asthma gone in 3 days!! On albuterol for almost 40 years. I am in shock. Some side effects which I consider to be cleansing symptoms. Nausea, sleeplessness and skin breakouts, but I did start on a high dose of 20 grams a day. After three weeks no more 'side effects'. My energy has greatly increased, I feel quite euphoric every day now. The only time I had that kind of euphoria was by drinking three glasses of organic green juices a day. I think people on heavy medications, mercury fillings, toxic diet are going to have more difficulties with it, so building up from a small dose with extra vitamin C and plenty of pure water will help.
The other supplement that really helps is Vitamin D3, I take 16,000iu liquid daily, no colds for two years now and my chronic bronchitis of 20 years has disappeared. Some years it was mild others, severe triggering serious asthma attacks. So the combination of Vitamin and MSM has been miraculous for me. This great website encouraged me to try MSM. Thanks so much.
p.s. Brushing my teeth with MSM has whitened them."Replies
01/17/2010: Ivory Coast from Loco, Ca replies: "THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS. I HAVE THE MSM AND MY CAT HAS ASTHMA. LORD KNOWS I'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON HER TO NO AVAIL. SHE THROWS UP THE ANTIBIOTIC. SHE ALSO HAS CONSTANT EYE INFECTIONS. UNFORTUNATELY SHE IS A MIDGET AND I CAN'T GET A LARGE PILL DOWN HER LITTLE THROAT. WHERE CAN I GET MSM IN SMALL PILLS?"
EC: MSM comes in powder form as well. See google shopping: http://www.google.com/products?q=MSM+powder&hl=en&aq=f
01/17/2010: Joyce from Joelton, Tn replies: "Hello Ivory Coast from Loco, Ca.
Look in the Yellow pages for a local farmers co-op store and go there to buy the MSM crystals for your little kitty. They will probably have it at a very reasonable rate.
Your kitty probably won't even realize she is getting it if you sprinkle it over some sardines or tuna. Sardines is probably healthier eating."
01/18/2010: Maz from Sydney, Australia replies: "I have started using 3000mg of pure MSM (capsule form) and also found my energy levels are through the roof! I'm taking msm for melasma but this is a fantastic side effect
Sorry for all the posts but I think this website has changed my life!
10/13/2010: Kini from Tallahassee, Florida replies: "Try giving your cat a tablespoon of plain yogurt 1-2 times a day and it should help clear up the reoccurring eye infections (it did for my dog). I also give him 1 tablet of chewable acidopholis daily.. We haven't had any eye infections for 2yrs now!"
[YEA] 03/30/2012: Sheila from Norwalk, Oh replies: "For the cat, I always put the crystals in a liter of water. You shake it up for awhile until it dissolves and it is like nothing at all is in there. Give the kitty a liter of water with that in it and she will drink it, no problem.
You should be drinking a lot of water anyway. The pure MSM in crystal form is recommended. Start with a quarter teaspoon a day then work up to a full teaspoon. If you need more for your symptoms, it is ok to take much more. Your body will take what it needs and eliminate the rest.
I love the stuff. Don't take it after 2pm if it makes you jittery."
Nasal Rinse, Tea Tree Oil
[YEA] 03/31/2013: Artfox13 from Los Angeles, Ca: "My allergies were really bad today, woke up with tears coming out of my eyes and snot oozing out of my nose. I have tried up to 3,000mg of MSM to no avail (maybe it's the wrong dosage?) What did work was:
1. Using a Neti pot to clean my nose first.
2. Took a q-tip and dipped it in tea tree oil and lined the inside of my nose with it. Not deep, just around the very opening. It seems to ease the nasal issues for me. The oil is actually very gentle, however you still want to be careful about putting it in too deep. I think the drying mechanism of the oil could be responsible for the relief. There was a period I would get staph infections in and around my nose and I would always dab the tea tree oil on it and after about 2-4 days it would subside."
Side Effects And Warnings
[SIDE EFFECTS] 04/21/2013: Ellen from London , Uk: "I am one of those people for whom MSM did not work. I had insomnia. What does this mean? Do I need to detox? My joints are very creaky and noisy but are less painful than they used to be. MSM might not be an option for me. Any advice? Thank you!"Replies
05/07/2013: Cb from Blaricum, Netherlands replies: "Hi, you can try Paida and Lajin, it is introduced by Hongchi Xiao. You 'clear' the meridians with Lajin (streching) and toxins will be expelled by Paida (slapping on the joints). It's is a holistic approach and is good for your overall health."
Side Effects and Warnings
[SIDE EFFECTS] 04/13/2013: Joyce from Manteca, Ca Usa: "I was so happy to find this site. I took 2 tsp MSM for 2 days and 1/2 tsp for 2 days and 3 weeks later I'm still having reactions. I wake in the middle of the night with my body buzzing and I'm having headaches (which I've never had in my life). My energy level is very low. I'm 75 and very healthy otherwise; I'm still working as a substiture teacher. I'm allergic to sulfa and that may be the problem since some others on the site said they were unable to take MSM because of that. I was really hoping it would help with my shoulder problems. I have a damaged rotator cuff (inoperable) from hairstyling for 34 years."Replies
04/29/2013: Linda from New Haven, Ct, United States replies: "Joyce, regarding your shoulder issue, both my husband and myself have rotator cuff issues. We have had very good results with turmeric powder. We take 1 teaspoon 2 or 3 times a day. We either mix it with a glass of milk or scramble it into our eggs. Add a dash of black pepper and some fat (we use coconut oil or butter) for better absorption.
We both noticed improvement starting on the 3rd day or so. It's marvelous!
[SIDE EFFECTS] 01/15/2011: Karen from Seligman, Mo, Usa: "Could someone help. This is strange. I started talking MSM a couple days ago and after second dose had palpitations and they don't stop and have been going on 24 hours now. I stopped taking MSM after it began and its still happening. Breath is hard to catch sometimes and I do not have these but maybe 2 a month and it's usually once. My BP is spiked at times and I have always had LOW LOW blood pressure. This is really creepy. I am also getting off white sugar at the same time and using brown for 4 days. So what's going on here? Don't yang about going to a Dr. If I hadn't already I wouldn't be here. They say nothing wrong but anemia."Replies
01/16/2011: Tom from Regina, Sk replies: "Karen: It souns like you are having a reaction not due to allergy, but simply from the almost unique beneficial effect MSM has in greatly increasing cell membrane porosity throughout the entire body!
As such, any toxins will be mobilized in greater amounts, and that includes any Rx drugs or their metabolites.
MSM thus has the effect of amplifying the drug dose! So you have to increase the dose of MSM slowly over several weeks, and/or do not be on any Rx drugs when you do, if possible.
Drink lots of water to aid in flushing them out.
For the anemia, you are on the right track in that it can be caused by a lack of essential minerals, which can be had from things like a complete cane sugar, as near to unprocessed as possible:
To make demerara sugar, sugar producers press sugar cane and steam the juice of the first pressing to form thick cane syrup. The cane syrup is allowed to dehydrate, leaving behind large golden brown crystals of sugar. Because demerara sugar is not heavily refined, it has a rich, creamy, molasses-like flavor which enhances baked goods. The large grains also remain crunchy through cooking, which makes demerara sugar a great choice of sprinkled topping on scones and similar dishes which might otherwise have a uniform texture.
As such, you might want to move up from the "brown sugar", since it is merely white table sugar (sucrose) sprayed with molasses to turn it just dark enough!"
10/29/2012: Steve from Centennial, Co replies: "I have been taking MSM for the past week or so. I had heart palpitations yesterday. One thing that msm appears to do is purge the body of heavy metals. I suspect it may also take with it some of the necessary minerals that are key for the electrical signaling of the heart to function properly (like some other heavy metal detoxes I have taken before). As soon as I became aware of what was happening, I took a general overall mineral supplement and the palpitations ceased immediately. I will have to monitor this point forward. Less MSM. More minerals. For detox the key is not to take them together as then it is just sweeping out the minerals you took, rather than the heavy metals deeply imbedded in fat and bones. For detox it appears there needs to be 6-8 hours in between the taking of the minerals and the taking of the msm. Hope this helps in your own research."
11/26/2010: Kathy from Covington, Virginia: "I HAVE READ ALL THE FEEDBACK ON MSM. NOW I AM CONFUSED. I AM HAVING PAIN IN MY KNEES AND LEGS. HAVE FOR SOMETIME. I MIX 2 CAPSULES OF MSM IN LOTION AND APPLY AS MUCH AS NEEDED. THIS SEEMS TO HELP, BUT NOT FOR LONG. I WOULD LIKE TO START TAKING MSM BY MOUTH, BUT NOW IF IT CAUSES ANXIETY I CAN'T DO THAT. I ALREADY HAVE CHRONIC ANXIETY AND AM TAKING ZOLOFT, HAVE BEEN FOR TEN YEARS. THE MSM I USE IS PURE. WHAT CAN I DO?"Replies
11/26/2010: Tom from Regina, Sk replies: "Kathy:
Again, any 'anxiety' reaction to the MSM is not seen in the majority, and even when it is it is likely simply the reaction to the body having too many waste products moving around at the same time due to MSM's nearly unique property of opening up cell membrane porosity for better efficiency moving things in and out across that membrane. This is for ALL organs and tissues, so in fact one minor problem but one to note well is that in addition to this temporary condition, there may well be a reaction ALSO caused by taking RX meds at the same time as being on a MSM regimen, because the increased porosity will cause the RX drug dose to be in effect multiplied, maybe 25%, 50%, or even double or triple! And what is one symptom of too high a dose of anti-depressant/anxiety medication? Why, it's ANXIETY! (Just do a Search. )
Also, remember it takes days at least even once stopped taking any RX drug for it to be really well cleared out by the liver and kidneys. So even if one goes off the drug in order to take MSM, it is best to wait several days at least before starting MSM. (one can lessen this down to non-existent by simply slowly increasing the daily MSM dosage, a week at a time, starting at the lowest dose for body weight and then after a month or two getting up to the highest). BTW, the antidepressant RX drugs have what must be the highest placebo effect of any drug class, at least for 'depression'(placebo effect for this drug class on other prescribed conditions like OCD, anxiety, etc. not given):
It seems I am not alone in having moral qualms about blowing the whistle on antidepressants. That first analysis, in 1998, examined 38 manufacturer-sponsored studies involving just over 3,000 depressed patients. The authors, psychology researchers Irving Kirsch and Guy Sapirstein of the University of Connecticut, saw as everyone else had that patients did improve, often substantially, on SSRIs, tricyclics, and even MAO inhibitors, a class of antidepressants that dates from the 1950s. This improvement, demonstrated in scores of clinical trials, is the basis for the ubiquitous claim that antidepressants work. But when Kirsch compared the improvement in patients taking the drugs with the improvement in those taking dummy pills clinical trials typically compare an experimental drug with a placebo he saw that the difference was minuscule. Patients on a placebo improved about 75 percent as much as those on drugs. Put another way, three quarters of the benefit from antidepressants seems to be a placebo effect. Remember this is NEWSWEEK talking, THE Establishment mass news outlet, so for them to put it out there means it's already long obvious to most.
Did you read over the ANXIETY section?:
If anything, there's too many things there you can try! So pick one that's cheap, easily available, and has some YAYS behind it."
[WARNING!] 02/02/2010: Allmymarbles from New York, New York: "MSM: Serious Side Effect
I started taking MSM for asthma. My husband takes it for arthritis and gets total relief. Unfortunately I reacted badly. I had developed high cortisol subsequent to using inhaled steroids (which I discontinued). The MSM drove the cortisol higher and I suffered an extremely high pulse rate, palpitations and insomnia. When I started using MSM I did not know of this side effect. So be warned. If you have high cortisol do not take this supplement. It can be very dangerous."Replies
03/06/2010: Steve from Spring Branch , Tx replies: "The warning you posted wasn't because of the MSM you were taking, The warning was for the steroids that you were ingesting. These drugs have been proven to be very dangerous. MSM is not a drug, it's a element."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 10/07/2010: Peggy64 from Montgomery, Al replies: "I don't take steroids and when I started the MSM, after a week or so, it caused me problems with elevated cortisol levels. So then, How would you explain that?"
11/26/2010: Tom from Regina, Sk replies: "MSM is a natural substance (as is cortisol), found even in the oceans. It could be that your symptoms were simply caused by one of the healing aspects of MSM which very few other nutrients can replicate:
It increases, dose dependent and therefore also depends on body weight, the cellular membrane porosity , thus rate and amount of nutrient, metabolic waste and signaling molecules across the cell's membrane. This holds for all or nearly all tissue and organ cells. So perhaps you actually suffered a slight reaction to a too-fast re-balancing from too many toxins on the move at the same time? This is why with MSM one should start with a small dose for the first week, then increase over many more weeks in increments to the maximum suggested dose based on body weight."
08/10/2011: "I have adrenal exhaustion, my cortisol is too low, if MSM has caused a couple of you to experience high cortisol, I wonder if this would be helpful for those of us with low cortisol?"
09/21/2009: Kim from Birmingham, England : "I have been taking MSM for a while now and I have to say my asthma/COPD is much improved. However, MSM does contain sulphates which some individuals may be sensitive to and may cause some side effects. I have read from a very good source that this can be largely overcome by taking a supplementation of molybedenum(500mcg). Hope this helps."Replies
09/21/2009: Joyce from Joelton, Tn. replies: "MSM (methylsulfonylmethane)
MSM has been wonderful for my traumatic arthritic joints that let us know when the weather is changing. I take about an ounce of the crystals a day with no problems. I am also one of those people who cannot take most sulfa drugs without unwanted side effects (ranging from severe nausea to sore throat and feeling worse after 3 days of the sulfa drug than I was from the infection I was taking it to get rid of).
When I pulled up sulfonyl the information given is that the sulfonyl group is an organic radical or functional group obtained from sulfonic acid by the removal of the hydroxyl
Sulphate is defined as a salt of sulfuric acid.
****While we are on the subject of sulfa drugs & sulfates, for those of you who are on sulfonylurea oral hypoglycemics for Diabetes Mellitus type 2, be sure to let any doctor know you are on them when they go to prescribe antibiotics. The sulfonylureas are related to sulfa drugs and if anyone prescribes sulfa drugs for you, it might trigger a hypoglycemic reaction (your blood sugar can bottom out). "
10/25/2009: Briana from Dublin, Ireland replies: "hi joyce, iv just been reading your feedback on msm and some of the side effecks feedbacks also and as im going to try msm for emphysema. i was wondering would it be safe with all the medication im on? it says on the bottle to take 1/2 teaspoonful daily at meal time. does that mean with your meal or before meal or after meal? but it also says to take acording to your weight. im only 28 kilos. now i dont know what to do. can you please give me some advice? thank you i will let earth clinic know of any results i might have taking msm whether good or bad. once again thank you."
10/25/2009: Joyce from Joelton, Tn replies: "Hello Briana from Dublin,
I don't know anyone personally taking MSM for emphysema but have read that it helps with that also. Since MSM is a natural substance found in all plants and animals, it probably won't interact much with medications, but in order to make sure of that you might want to type in MSM interactions with other medications into a search window & go looking for the answers. You can also type in the name of each drug you are taking to check for unwanted interactions with MSM.
Wow, you sure are a fly weight! Considering that the average adult dosage is figured on the average weight being a l50 lb (75 kg) you can readily see that your weight is less than 1/2 so you need less than 1/2 of the recommended dosage (for those who wonder 2.2 kgs. = l pound). You can take it at mealtime, but I never had any problem with taking it when not eating. Telling you to take medications or supplements with meals is a good way of relating it to something to remind you to take it as well having something in your stomach to decrease the likelihood of a gastrointestinal upset from it. Fortunately many drug interactions that occur decreases the drug's effectiveness because it binds with calcium or some other nutrient in our foods. This is why some prescriptions specify to take it at least 1 hour before meals or 2 hours after eating. Another reason for telling you to take at mealtime is a lot of supplement, vitamins, etc. are better absorbed when accompanied by the other nutrients in the food eaten.
Since you are taking a lot of other medications, you should probably not take more than 1/2 the adult dosage with meals to begin. If no problems develop, you can probably increase that doasge if you would like to.
You probably will not have any problems if you elect to take the usual adult dosage, since the doctor who was treating his patients with it when I read the article in Journal of Longevity, was said to be taking the race horse dose (which is about 1 ounce of the crystals for a l500 pound animal) daily to see if any bad side effects would come from taking a larger and prolonged dosage, and was still taking it without problems after several years of the increased dosage."
10/29/2009: Brianna from Dublin, Ireland replies: "hi joyce from joelton. thank you for your quick response. i am experimenting with a few things. iv tried hydrogen proxide teds remedy. i only got to 6 drops and i read on ec that you cant do hydrogen proxide if you have silver fillings in your teeth and i have 2 so i had to stop. ted also says dmso and msm are good for emphysema. i cant get dmso here in ireland so i just taught id try msm and see what happens. i started on monday with a very small amount just the tip of a teaspoon in a large glass of water and increased it a little each day. hopefully it will do some good in the mean time im still looking for other cures. i really need to gain some weight i have a good appetite but because of the emphysema i just keep loosing weight. so if you have any remedies for this i would love to hear them. thank you joyce and earth clinic"
10/29/2009: Merryanne from Orange City, Florida, USA replies: "To Brianna,, I think you are not taking enough of the MSM, I don't understand the amout you are taking,,,but I take about t grams daily or in a 24 hour period and sometimes more,,I have my on issues, but try that for a day and see how you feel after that, merryanee in USA,,Florida"
EC: Hi Merryanne, "t grams daily"... a typo, we think. Can you please resend the amount? Thanks!
10/30/2009: Merryanne from Orange City, Florida, USA replies: "Sorry about the typo,,,that is about 4ooomg in 24 hour period,,,you can start off with what you feel good about,,,but if you know you are really sick and need and improvement, take the 1000mg which is 1Grm 4 times in a 24 hour period,,you can always reduce your intake if you believe it is making you sick,,,but also when the bacteria or virus or parasite is dying off, it will also make you feel crapy, Merryanne"
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 03/13/2009: Wayne from Ladner, BC Canada: "MSM is incredible... it cleared up my asthma...fixed my shoulder...helps my wifes allergies..she doesn't have to take antihystamines..... BUT ...... i started developing a red rash on my face...... red blotchy and itchy as the dickens...i stopped taking it for a week and then...the rash went away...i needed a fix on sunday as i had a heavy day so i took some more and this is thursday and i still have the rash worse then before it went away.......
i was taking two or three teaspoons a day...
I have not given up hope on it..i want to stop for maybe a month and then start gradually on it again....it does cause insomnia if you take it in the evening..it gives you great energy..i believe because you are getting a full lung full of oxygen because it clears out the bronchial passages........but that is only my theory as i suffer from asthma and this stuff really helps you breathe clearer...if feels like you are getting your money's worth for each breath you take...
i am interested in that term..i forget what they called it..but the idea of the msm flushing out the toxins..........i have been doing some reading on that and was contemplating doing the Hydrogen peroxide cleanse... and retry the msm..
i am a believer in the benefits of msm...but just to get rid of the side effects that people have.........
great page......keep the faith"