Mini Beet Protocol by Robert Von Sarbacher
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According to the one page website of the inventor of the Mini Beet Protocal (aka MBP), Robert Von Sarbarcher, this juicing remedy will cure:
Fluoride Poisoning
Pesticide Poisoning
Mold and Fungal Infections
Crow's Feet
Infertility
Heavy Metal Poisoning
Love Handles & Cellulite
Hormonal Imbalances
Free Radicals
Scars
Gray Hair
Parasites
Mycoplasms
Nano-Insects
In order to do this protocol, you'll need:
MATERIALS:
A juicer
INGREDIENTS (organic, if possible)
* Ground Cinnamon
* Beets
* Asparagus
* Apples (any kind)
* Carrots
INSTRUCTIONS:
Robert Von Sarbacher's extensive instructions here: http://robertvon.com/mbp.html (His web page is best viewed in Internet Explorer; Firefox has a character display issue.)
After you try this juicing cure, please send us your feedback!
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4 SIDE EFFECTS
3 QUESTIONS
03/01/2010: Verde Luz from Carolina, Puerto Rico writes: "Question about MBP
Do you have to juice the beets and asparagus? Can you get the same effect eating them raw and if so how much do you eat?"
EC: Hi Verde,
Please check out the responses to Dolly from Cairo, Egypt's question dated 11/22/2009.
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[SIDE EFFECTS] 12/29/2009: Tahiti from Monroeville, Pa writes: "Hi all. I finally got my ___ juicer. It was a Christmas present. I really like it! I tried to make beet and asparagus juice with it for the first time yesterday. I was going for one cup (1/3 cup asparagus & 1/2 cup beet juice). But I really overdid it and blended much more. Not wanting to waste any, I drank it all, which was much, much more than the one cup I intended to make. I ate my apple and carrot afterwards, but skipped the cinnamon before drinking the juice. Needless to say, I got so very, very sick. I up-chucked everywhere, all over everything. It was a hard lesson well learned. I will never, ever do that again. Robert clearly states that you must start out slowly. Disobedience has its price and I paid it. I am definitely going to slow down today and do it right. I am not deterred, just a little stupid sometimes. I will keep you posted on my results. By the way, has anyone heard anything from Robert Von Sarbacher? Thanks for listening!"
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12/01/2009: Rebel from Somewhere, Usa writes: "I started the Mini Beet Protocol on November 28 and today will be my fourth day on it. No problems the first day, actually felt good all over. 2nd day, had several loose bowel movements and pain in my lower back. Not knowing if this might be kidney stones or not, I downed 2 ounces of lemon juice mixed with 2 ounces of olive oil...The pain was gone on the 3rd day and that day was normal.
I plan to keep going and I believe going very slowly will be the key. I plan on staying on the 1/4 cup of beet and asparagus for at least 10 days and then I will either do it twice a day or move up to a 1/2 of cup each.( probably will up the dose, because the cleaning up of the juicer is the biggest problem I am having. It is a PAIN! )
Anyone know if you are suppose to juice the green leaves of the beets also? I have been cutting them off and disgarding them. I also read somewhere that beets should be peeled before juicing, I have not been doing this either, I juice peel and all.
I wash my beets and asparagus in a soak of water and Hydrogen Peroxide and rinse real good ( They are not ORGANIC ) I have read you can use a vinegar or grapefruit seed extract liquid mixture in water to clean your veggies. So ROBERT,if you are reading this, please let me know what that VEGGIE WASH is that you use.
I really am shooting for at least a 3 month period of this and maybe four, so slowly I go and hopefully I want have to stop it or have any bad side effects. I will post again after the 10th day."
12/01/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Rebel, Glad to hear you started on the mbp. I started it about 2 months ago now but have since moved on, meaning, I still juice beets and asparagus but have since made lots of different juices from all sorts of veggies. So, I thought I'd give you some feedback. First, the greens from the beets are awesome so don't throw them away- very full of nutrition. We buy organic so, we just rinse or scrub for the most part. If you can afford it, go organic because whatever is going into the fruit/veg is going into your body. Remember, the point of juicing and eating green is to detoxify, alkalinize and cleanse the body so in a sense, it's defeating to put pesticides from the produce back in.
Also, my husband had the same experience on the 2nd day of the mbp of intense low back pain but didn't do anything in addition such as lemon/olive oil. I said it was probably just his kidneys detoxifying. The pain passed after about 4 days. I didn't have any experience like that but what I have noticed is how much stronger my bladder and kidneys have become after a lifetime of weakness. I have spent my whole life getting up at least twice a night to urinate and it feels urgent. After about a week of the mbp that completely disappeared and I slept like a baby through the entire night!
I don't want to repeat everything I have written in past posts as I have done quite a few of them of progress through this journey from mbp to juicing to green smoothies to rawfood plus superfoods but if you go back and read them you will see them. Perhaps, add lots of dark greens as you go. In back posts someone even gave me a letter that Robert sent her- he's a very enthusiastic guy! And it's worth finding and reading. BTW, what kind of a juicer do you have that is such a pain? I'll avoid it. Both Kay and I have a Breville and it's a breeze to clean. It also is quite affordable comparatively speaking. I wish you the best on your journey to health. Lisa"
12/07/2009: Rebel from Somewhere, Usa replies: "Well it is day 10 of the MBP for me. Unfortunately, for me after I posted here on day 3, my right ear began to hurt, my scalp was very sore and my throat became scratchy. I know that Robert says that you should take your time and even doing the protocol 3 days a week, it will help you alot. Also he says even the slightest sore throat and you should stop until youre 100%. Maybe I just had sinus or something, but my blood is probably some of the filthiest around. I have been fast food, white bread, alcohol and junk food the majority of my life. SO SLOWLY, I do this, because I want to be healthy. I have No nausea at all though.
So I started back today as I started feeling better around day 7, but wanted to be 100%. I plan on doing this for a long time to come. So I will be carful, not to make myself sick off of it.
Well Lisa, I have the Jack LaLanne power juicer and it has 6 parts that has to be cleaned, You have to assemble it and dis-assemble it all the way and clean and dry it compleatly. I read about the one you have and it sounds easier to clean up. As for ORGANIC, I wish I had a source near by. But I live in a very small town and it is not a wealthy area, so the Wal-Mart super center here does not carry alot of organics. I have to drive 45 to 60 minutes one way to get to the town that carries organics. I could afford the organics, I just don't like that long drive and gas cost. My beets seem to stay good for a long time, but my Asparagus goes bad ( Soggy slimey ) in just a few days. So I would probably have to make 2 trips a week. If I am down that way, I will pick up the organics.
I am very excited, I just wish I had not had the set back, but I am determined to do this thing and clean myself up.
PS. I have read your other post, Lisa."
12/07/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Wow Rebel, Sorry to hear about the setback- that's a bummer. But, it's good that you are patient and willing to go slow. As for the organic, I know this might be a crazy idea but there are places on the internet that will deliver right to your door farm fresh organic produce. There is a place called Farm Fresh to You which you can look up and check out. Another idea is, are there any local farms that you could ask about getting fresh from them? Just a thought. Are you going to look into a different juicer? If you really are serious about getting the most for your health, start looking at all the raw food sites and see testimonials, pics, etc. that will blow your mind for what people have overcome and how different they look. It is very, very inspiring and has kept me strong and going with enthusiasm. Start adding in salads and raw veggies to alkalinize and clear your body. You can see previous posts of mine for lots of suggestions on sites, people, ideas, etc.I'm really interested in your progress and I wish you the very best in your journey. Peace, Lisa"
12/08/2009: Dj from Pdx, Or, USA replies: "Rebel,
As for the organic vegetables, try asking around and see if there is a local farmer who has veggies on the side. Your city council may have that information. Then call the farmer and see if he/she would be willing to deliver or meet you half way. My parents live in a very small community and that is how she gets a lot of her veggies in the summer.
You may have a neighbor close by who would be willing to add a little extra to his/her plot. Just ask around.
If you are able, try growing some of the items. Beets and carrots are very hardy. You can easily grow them in containers with very little work. My Grandma even leaves her carrots in the ground through the most of the winter. Just make sure they are covered with straw or something (well, depending on where you live of course). Dierdre's EarthClinic Planet site has some really good information on gardening, whether it is a big plot or a container. I do both, I have a little ground and a couple of containers. Both work really well.
You can also ask the produce manager to order organics. I know at my local store (not a wal-mart) if I ask for something to be ordered they order it. The hassle is at times I need to keep asking for the item.
Congratulations on changing your life. Not an easy step to take."
12/14/2009: Rebel from Somewhere, Usa replies: "Well I don't even know what day of the protocol this is, but I started back on the 7th day and went for four days and stopped and I will start back again today.
This time with some ORGANICS, Yes I made that long trip to the natural grocery store. I was able to obtain Organic Beets,yellow squash,white onion,carrots,broccoli,turnips,cinnimon and goji berries. The parsnips and asparagus were not organic and the produce manager said it was very hard for them to get those in organic, but he did have the asparagus ordered and it may or may not come in on the truck.
I have felt fine, just my tonsiles or something in my neck seem to get a little sore at about the 4 day mark of being on the MBP, so I just come of for a few days and start back up.Still at the 1/4 cup, like I said this is a long term thing for me and I have read so many sad post on here about people stopping the protocol after ills they had. I haven't made ALL the changes in my diet YET, but am working to correct that. I plan on adding in goji berries this week, turnips,white onion,squash and broccoli,also I will be cooking the parsnips and carrots together.
So now I have a few questions for Lisa or others who know.
When there at the natural store, I mention this site and talked with about 3 different employees.One of the employees when I ask about goji berries ( $17.99 per pound )I said I have found those as cheap as $12.99 a pound on the net and they are organic also. At first he said well you will have shipping and handle on thoses, but then something interesting. He said,"Where are they grown? Because if in China their organic standards are not the same as Americas and ours are grown Organically right here in America." So after some thought, I went ahead and purchased the goji berries at the natural store.
Are these just as good? Or Better?Also a lady their in the vitiman section, when I was looking for some suppliments ( that they did not have, don't worry I ordered from the net )She says Coral Calcium is not reconized by our bodys and is useless to use as it just passes right on through and she had no ideal what herbal calcium was. Talking with her about this site and telling her some of the things, she just said in her studies some of these thing did not add up. To much Sugar content of juicing was one issue she had, she thought this could be bad for those with blood sugar issues and cause weight gain.
So is Coral Calcium good or not for our bodies? This is the thing that drives me CRAZY, everyone has different opinons when it comes to herbs,vitimans and naturally healing the body. I want the best CORRECT way.I think even the schools of natural medicines teach different things at different schools. I kwow these different website can't agree either. Take juicing for example, some say never mix fruit and veggies and other say always mix fruits and veggies and so forth.
No Lisa, I will stick with my juicer for now, in the future I might get the one you have, but right now I will just go through the hassle of the clean up.
One more question.If I juice my beets with the greens leaves, Do I still measure it all the same or do I need just the ROOT PART for my beet portion and juice the leaves with something else?Sorry so this was sooooo looong!"
12/14/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Rebel, I don't mind all the questions at all. I had so many too but do a lot of research. First off, I would say stay away from calcium. Listen to David Wolfe on youtube explaining about the havoc calcium causes in our bodies. You can find it under David Wolfe Secret Archives which is in several parts but well worth watching. What he says makes so much sense to me that I am going with it and am seeing a difference using both msm and dmso. Also watch David Wolfe and Calcium also in about 7 parts but again, you will learn so much.
Yes, there is a lot of info out there and some conflicting and you have to sift through a lot and find what works for you. I don't do well with fruit so I stick with mostly green juices and smoothies but add in raw cacao and maca which are superfoods. Mixing fruits and veggies- well, certain fruits don't mix well with veggies. You can find that info on the sites for juicing.
As for goji berries- well, I have found different qualities for sure. Actually, Himalayan goji berries are considered the finest but there are good US organic available as well. There are some excellent reputable websites that you can get great quality products from for very reasonable prices. I live in LA and we have Whole Foods and some really great health food stores so I don't really have to shop online but still I do my research to see if the price is comparable.
Google raw food and you will find a load of sites with juicing, testimonies, pics, etc. that to me speak for themselves. I think juicing is awesome and have only seen people drop weight dramatically and become incredibly healthy from it.
Speaking for myself, I absolutely love the results I am having from it. In past posts I have given the names of internet health shows too that you can watch and see some amazing interviews of people at the forefront of this world. They have healed many people and themselves dramatically from diseases and ailments that in many ways baffle the western medical world. Names to look for: Gabriel Cousens, Boutenko family, Angela Stokes, Shazzie, Daniel Vitalis, Reverend George Malkmus, Ann Wigmore to name a few. These people are amazing to listen to.
As for the beet greens, well, when I started the mbp, I didn't know a lot about juicing so we just used the beets and the asparagus. Fortunately, we saved the greens and shortly thereafter began to juice the greens. I would start working on green juices now. That is what I've learned from my research- beets are very high in sugar so now we mix them with lots of greens thereby getting the benefits of both.
I am happy to help you with questions. I encourage you to keep on your path- it only gets better! There is a woman, Kay, who I met on this site and we have become a team of encouraging each other through email. It's been fantastic.
Peace, Lisa"
12/14/2009: Dj from Pdx, Or replies: "Hi Lisa,
You have a lot of experience on this subject and I have a question please.
What would you recommend to a person on a strict budget. Someone who can only afford grocery store fruits and veggies and even then only once a week or so. What is the best fruit or vegetable to use if you can only pick one or two.
And what of frequency? If a person can only afford 5 beets for the week or even next two weeks is it worth even trying the MBP?
I have a friend who really needs help but is poor as a church mouse right now and lets face it supplements are really expensive and some people like my friend are getting their food from food banks and such. People are generous but even I donate non-perishables."
12/15/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Dj, Well, it is rough out here for everyone! Including myself. Still, I think our health is worth it. The way I see it is meat is much more expensive than veggies. Our food bill has gone down considerably since we have gone raw and are juicing. I would definitely say it's worth doing the juicing and the mbp! Just use only one beet and about 3 stalks of asparagus- that's already enough especially for a beginner. She may even want to try only 1/2 a beet and a couple of asparagus stalks to begin. It's really potent stuff. Especially if you aren't already a "clean" eater. I would go with the darkest greens as well because they are the most beneficial. They can be unpalatable though so mixing them with the beets or carrots helps tremendously. Also, an apple works juiced with them to add some sweetness. I feel such benefits from all of this that I say it is well worth the money, time and effort.
Honestly, these are trying times for the best of us. Eating this way and juicing daily has helped me keep up my strength both physically and emotionally. I have my own ballet studio and am around a lot of parents and kids who get sick but I haven't gotten sick at all. My own two youngest kids picked up a very nasty flu that lasted for over a week and neither my husband or I got it. (They won't eat what we are eating and I'm not forcing them, just trying to set an example.) I attribute it to keeping our bodies so alkaline from all the veggies that it can't contract sickness.
My original reason for going in this direction was because of excruciating hip pain from years of dancing. Well, that has been reduced dramatically through all of this. The benefits beyond my original intention have been priceless. It is now a lifestyle that I have embraced and am loving.
Hope this helps and I wish the very best to your friend. We can all make it through this with a little help from our friends... Peace, Lisa"
12/18/2009: Rebel from Somewhere, Usa replies: "Well again, I have not kept up with the total days on the MBP. So I couldn't even begin to tell you what day it is. But anyway, this week starting on Monday I was juicing and got 1/2 cup of beet juice and thought maybe it was a good sign, to up the dosage. So I did 1/2 cup of beet juice for 3 days til Wednesday. No side effects, except expelling what I guess was yeast in a bowel movement. I'll try not to be to gross, but it was liquid yellow and burned like bees stinging and I have had severe itching every since. I did have pinkish urine on day two, but not before or since.
I also am consuming and have been since Monday 1 cup of goji berries. I haven't changed my diet completely yet, but did add in 1 day of turnips, yellow squash, white onion, and broccoli. I recieved my vitamins yesterday and started those as of today, although now I am a bit confused. I read, what I guess is an updated version on Robert's page and I am a bit confused on what exacally I am suppose to suppliment with. He says as long as you are consuming enough carrots, apples and asparagus stones should not be an issue, but then goes on to say people should suppliment with B-6, cod liver oil, magnesium, coral calcium. So any way, I am eating the apples and carrots and I am using asparagus along with the beets, But just to be safe, I am taking cod liver oil, B-6, calcium magnesium with D and Magnesium chloride all in tablet form. The calcium,mag, with D is as follows: Vitamin D 400 IU, Calcium Oyster shell 1000mg and Magnesium Oxide 500 mg. The bottle recommends3 tablets daily and I an taking 2 for now and taking the magnesium chloride 1 a day as it is Magnesium chloride 520 mg and elemental magnesium 62.17 mg. I also have Corral calcium, but I am not taking that, because of the controversy surrounding it. I know Robert recommended Magnesium oil and I might have to change to that. IF YOU ARE READING THIS ROBERT, please let me know about these suppliments as I am confused on them. I am also CHEWING the vitamins as TED has said this gets them better absorb into the body in case of FILLERS.
When I start back, I will resume with the 1/2 cup and will work up slowly as I feel comfortable. On my days OFF, I also drink Organic asparagus extract 5gm which is equal to taking half pound of asparagus, so the box says.
I am not going to brag about anything yet, but I have seen some improvements ( later to be revealed ). I just wish the itching would go away and I hope and pray I don't get kidney stones, when I do feel lower back pain ( only once on second day ) I take 2 ounces of olive oil with 2 ounces of lemon juice.
I guess that covers everything for now, and about my diet. I am really trying to change that for the better, but it is hard to break life long bad habits in a short time. I read an interview with David Wolfe and Mike Adams. In that interview David said it takes some time to adjust and figure out what foods will work for you and to break bad habits. He says know one really knows what they are doing at first, but they figure it out as they practice and experment. Or something to that effect, that might not be exactly what he said, but something like that."
01/10/2010: Rebel from Somewhere, Usa replies: "I am still doing the MBP. Although, I am sticking with half of cup of beets and asparagus juiced at this time. I actually increased my doseage and had a bit of an ill feeling.
It is interesting to me that, my diet is prety much still the same and yet, I believe this protocol is helping with certain issues. I know that it would do better with a complete diet clean up. I do not want to mis lead anyone til I know for sure the effects, but some areas are improving.
Refusing to get burned out or sick off this protocol, I am still going very slow with it, trying to get up enough strength and courage to radically change my diet for the better.
Anyway, I would encourage everyone on here to get these beets into your diet. I do wish Robert would post here. Lisa, I always find your post to be informative as well. Robert was suppose to set up a web site, I will check again today. He did seem to update his link that is on here."
01/11/2010: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Rebel, Wow! Good for you for staying the course. I am also happy to hear that you listened to David Wolfe. FYI, there is new video on youtube with him speaking that is so fantastic I hope you take the time to listen. I have also discovered a guy named Dan the Life Regenerator on youtube that is quite inspiring to many in trying to recover their health. I am also glad to hear you did not take the coral calcium. The more I hear David speak on it, the more I understand the implications of what calcium can do to our bodies.
During the holidays there were definitely challenges due to Thanksgiving and its traditional foods and then Christmas. The way I worked through that was I just juiced more. Juicing is really actually quite amazing. I would also encourage you to just add in a big salad either in lieu of a meal or in addition to a meal. Then you'll get all that yummy goodness that benefits your body. There are so many variations that you can do that you can change it up and not get bored or tired of it. You can change the veggies, add in sliced zucchini, avocado, pieces of broccoli and/or cauliflower, add in seeds like sunflower, pumpkin, hemp (a superfood), even goji berries after you've soaked them for about 5-10 min. You can add in sprouts and really amp up the benefits of your salad- we have been sprouting our own which can save lots of money as sprouts can be pricey. If you add in nuts, soak them first as they have an enzyme inhibitor coat on them and that breaks it down. Change up dressings- there are so many variations. Making your own saves lots of money as well.
I know you said you have pretty much kept your same eating habits but think about just improving little steps at a time such as instead of white bread, try wheat then move up to essene which is a living bread, then up to flax seed crackers. As your palate adjusts, you find yourself naturally wanting to make changes. I have experimented as you read David Wolfe's recommendation about the fact that at first we don't know what we're doing but little by little we learn as in everything! I have learned that much of my body pain was due to dairy which I never believed I had a problem with as most people who are allergic to dairy seem to relate it to sinus/throat/nose/ear problems which I never have. Well, I had eliminated all dairy from my diet at the beginning of this journey just to experiment and it was incredible the difference I felt in all my joints so, what I have concluded is perhaps it affects our weakest area. The other night I tried an amazing spinach and cheese pie that a dear friend had made that in the past I loved. It had feta and sour cream in it. They were even organic and about a half hour later my body began to return to the terrible pain I have endured for the last three years. That was a real testimony for me. My point is, that is how we learn. Trial and error. Questioning and researching but each person is different...
One thing I also have experienced dramatically is that when we have a raw dinner I wake up instantly at about 5:30am ready to go and ready to meet the day. If we have cooked food (and I mean still considered "very healthy") I wake up sluggishly, very groggy and my body takes awhile to feel ready to move. It's quite interesting but something the raw food community really talks about.
Well, I hope you continue and find the courage to make improvements in your own time and realize that we have set backs but it's okay. Just take it one day at a time as they say. BTW, Kay, whom I met on this site, and I have continued our friendship and teamwork in helping each other stay the course. Through the holidays I think it was helpful to both of us! I am interested in your progress and if you have any questions I will try to answer them. Peace, Lisa"
01/11/2010: The_phoenix from Townsville, Australia replies: "Hi Lisa,
Thanks for your post.
Re dairy product allergies:
I am interested to know if people with allergic reactions to dairy foods should be concerned about all dairy products. Have you had any experience with allergic reactions to powdered milk or do you know anyone else who has? (Soya is out and there isn't much left to put on the morning plate of raw meusli). Same for feta cheese (just wondering if you differentiate between feta cheese and sour cream when you get a reaction).
Re your health:
You say you have suffered for three years and mention joint pain. So, are you suffering from joint pain and does total avoidance of dairy products stop the pain?
I noticed that author Dr John Mansfield claims 80% of arthritic (joint pain disease) is caused by food allergies (of course others claim an 80% 'success' rate for ACV and anti-bacterial cures but the more the merrier)."
01/12/2010: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Phoenix, I can only speak from my own experience and my feedback from others. Yes, without a doubt, the complete avoidance of dairy products has made a huge difference in not only joint pain, but these strange unbelievable pains that would shoot through my legs. I have to say though that I have not tried individual cheeses, creams, etc. and now, really have no inclination to even try after my experience the other night(in my last post). I was such a huge fan of various cheeses but not a milk drinker at all. Honestly, I never equated the joint pain and dairy.
I have a suggestion for you though since you are looking for an alternative to milk and soymilk for your muesli. Almond milk is delicious and if you can't get it in the store it is quite easy to make. Soak a cup of almonds for about 4 hours and then put them in your blender with 4 cups of water, 1/4 cup of either agave nectar or raw honey, a pinch of sea salt and a few drops of natural almond or vanilla extract, then blend well for about 2 minutes. A high speed blender is optimal such as a vitamix but whatever you have is fine. Then, if you like you can use a sieve such as multiple layers of cheesecloth or a nut milk bag and strain so it is smooth, otherwise, just use as is. A simpler method is to use almond butter instead but I don't know if that is available where you are. Instead, use 2 heaping tablespoons to 2 cups water and blend.
Hope this helps you. Peace, Lisa"
[SIDE EFFECTS] 01/23/2010: Rebel from Somewhere, Usa replies: "Well, it finally happened. HERX, like you would not believe. Last week sometime I was going to move up to 3/4 cup of the beet juiced, well lets just say I glad I stuck with the 1/2 cup. I got sick for about 3 hours of feeling like I had the severe flu. I was scared for the minute as I could not get off the toilet and felt as if I was going to toss my cookies at anytime. Sweating, stomach cramps, chills, diarrhea, and nausea. It felt as if my insides were pulling and stretching. After the diarrhea for about 2 hours, I slowly started to get better and after 3 hours I was mostly back normal.
I decided to give it another go today. The smell of the cinnamon was gagging me, but I managed it down. Being cautious, I went back down to 2/3 cup of the beet juice. Had a hard time getting it down, immediataly followed with an apple. RIGHT THROUGH ME IT WENT! How can something travel through your system that fast. Before I could finish the apple, on the toilet I was, Hour or so of diarrhea and nausea, slowly started to fell normal again.
I did change the beets that I was using, to a chaeper version ( But still organic )just with out the green leaves and I bought my asparagus from a different grocery chain. I almost want to say that maybe the produce was bad, but I truely believe it was HERX reaction.
I have had some improvements in my health and do believe that parasites and yeast have been forced from my body. I will not go into details, but the proof is in the stools.
I will have to clean my diet up and take a break for a while from this. I had began thinking people on here were doing something wrong or going too fast and was getting sick, well I have went as slow as a person can go and now I am very sick, even when I smell ingredients in the protocol. I should have cleaned up my diet while doing this, but I was seeing improvements and thought I was doing fine.
If it were just the diarrhea, I could deal with it, But the nausea I CAN NOT handle. I know that most of you will say that it is part of the detox process and my body is healing getting all the toxins out and I would love to be able to youth over all at some point, but for now I will have to break for a while."
01/25/2010: Deirdre from Atlanta, Ga, Usa replies: "Hi Rebel,
I just wanted to mention that I first had a very nauseous reaction from drinking the cinnamon mixed in water and had to stop that. Then came the reaction to the beet juice. I also could not stand the thought of either of them for months afterwards, but that gradually faded. I have had those two ingredients in recipes since then, but never again made the beet juice. I am happily juicing greens (romaine, kale, lemon, chunk of fresh ginger, fuji apples) every so often and never had any side effects."
01/25/2010: Tahiti from Monroeville, Pa, United States Of America replies: "Hi Rebel. I went through the exact same thing, at least twice. I also am taking a break. I now cannot stand the smell of beet and asparagus juice. It makes me terribly nauseous. I didn't think that you were supposed to throw up. I only did that when I didn't eat the apple and carrot right away. I also tried putting carrots and apples into the mix to make it taste better. It did taste a little better, not much though. Because I added the apple and carrot, I didn't think that I needed to eat the apple and carrot afterward. Boy, was I ever wrong. I guess the beet juice is so strong no matter what you mix with it, so you have to eat the apple and carrot afterwards. I also had to stay on the toilet for a long while. I had the sweating and everything else that you mentioned. It does last about 3 hours and then you get some relief. I do so want to try this again. I think I will, but will be a lot more cautious. Keep us informed of how it is going with you!"
01/26/2010: Tahiti from Pittsburgh, Pa replies: "Hi Deidre. Thanks for the info. I went through this too and have decided to juice other fruits and vegetables. I think I'm going to try the ones you mentioned. Sounds good!"
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11/23/2009: Jenine from Pomona, New York writes: "So I have been watching this thread and finally started the MBP two days ago. I have especially enjoyed reading Lisa's posts and how enthusiastic she is about it. I actually enjoy the taste of the juice so so far no problem. I only have one apple afterwards and no side effects so far. I will keep everyone updated on my progress."
12/03/2009: Jenine from Pomona, New York, USA replies: "Mini Beet Protocol: I'm on my second week now. Not much happened on the first week. I did have more bowel movements and one loose BM. I'm still only eating one apple after the juice. I've actually been taking this when I come home in the evenings so I'm wondering if because I'm not taking this first thing in the morning on an empty stomach than I don't need that many apples. I'll keep posting."
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[QUESTION] 11/22/2009: Dolly from Cairo, Egypt writes: "Hi a question to Ted and all who are acquainted with MBP, I am about to do the mini beet protocol but I need to know should I boil the beets first or just juice it raw and also the other ingredients? I do not have a juice machine, will a blender be okay? I am afraid it will break or so!
Appreciate someone's feedback on this the soonest please.
Dolly"
11/22/2009: Moi from V Ville, Ca replies: "The beets are to be raw for juicing. Yes, they will break a blender. Even with a strong juice machine I cut them up before juicing. While you save up for a juicer, you can eat raw beets by peeling and finely slicing or grating and then eating the beet. It will take a bit of commitment to do that but well worth it. Start with half a small beet. Eat a small apple and carrot afterwards.
Good luck."
11/22/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Dolly, Well, the beets should be raw. I would say you need a juicer as that is what it says in the mbp. Then, this morning as I was going through youtube I found a guy who said that if you can't afford a juicer, use your blender- it's better than nothing! He showed how he did it. Now, what I would do is cut up your beet in small chunks to help your blender to not get overtaxed. He then added water. (He was using carrots, greens, etc., not beets.) Then, he blended it up. Next, he poured it through a strainer. Now you can get nut milk bags at health food stores (not all)or over the internet but they aren't exactly cheap. I got mine for $11 at a health food store. He said you can get paint strainers which work equally as well and go for about a dollar a piece! Put it over a glass, pour your blender liquid in, squeeze liquid from the pulp as well from the strainer and then drink the glass full of juice. Search on youtube for "juicing with a blender" and the guy I watched is rashb. There may be others as well. Hope this helps."
11/22/2009: Phil from Dearing, Ga replies: "Hi Dolly. Beets should be in RAW form. This way they have alot more detox effects. Ted, is not the one that suggest the MBP, it is actually Robert Von.Robert gives an alternative to get your beets in, without doing the MBP and helps you somewhat like the MBP. I think it was on here just a few days ago. It was a response to Lisa, from California. Go on here under REMEDIES to Mini beet protocol, look for Lisa and read, I can't remember who wrote to her, but they had written what Robert suggested to get your beets in. Also you should check out: http://curezone.com/Forums/am.asp?i=1164794.
Alot is already on here. You just have to read. I have been reading here daily, for years and have not even scratched the surface, yet.
Here on Earth Clinic everything is laid out pretty simple and you can also use the search box here to find what you need.
The person that responded to Lisa, should still be here some where under the lastest post section also.
Good luck!
Phil"
11/25/2009: Dolly from Cairo, Egypt replies: "Hi Phil, thanks a lot for the feedback and guiding lines to find all about MBP here on earthclinic.
Dolly"
11/25/2009: Dolly from Cairo, Egypt replies: "Hi Lisa, thanks for explaining how to do the mbp without a juicer, which I will do at least till I buy one! I found the you Tube and its very good, thanks for your help Lisa.
Dolly "
01/10/2010: Indigo from Sacramento, Ca replies: "Mini Beet Protocol - raw beet recipe
This is for Dolly and anyone else who wants a palatable way to start eating raw beets until you can buy a juicer.
A delicious way to prepare raw beets is to grate them (using the larger holes on a hand grater or food processor), then add in olive oil and freshly squeezed lemon juice. Also can add a good sea salt to taste. Sorry I rarely measure anything when preparing food, but I would guess quantities to be something like this -
1 large beet, grated (works with carrots, too!)
1 TB good olive oil, more or less to taste
1 fresh lemon, squeezed into olive oil before adding.
sea salt (or real salt) to taste if desired.
can also add chopped parsley or other herb if desired,
also raw sunflower seeds are good, but optional.
I made some of this for Christmas Dinner with my extended family, and people were helping themselves to seconds and exclaiming about how good it was.
Can be added to salads or just eaten as is, 1 or 2 TB per meal as a relish or when hungry. The same recipe works well for carrots, too.
Enjoy!"
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11/03/2009: Reikigirl from Millstone Twp., Nj writes: "Mini Beet Protocol: Read about the MBP some time ago, just bought a juicer, had all the ingredients so I gave it a try today. Mixed 1 tsp. cinnamon in 2 tbsp. warm water and drank...it tasted fine...followed that with a cup of water...juiced 1/4 cup asparagus, 1/4 cup beets, mixed together and drank... tasted like beet juice, really no asparagus taste to it...then ate a large apple followed by 10 baby carrots...no nausea...I feel just fine...will continue to follow this increasing amount of juice each week as directed. I am 51 and hoping to see an improvement in wrinkles and cellulite. I am 7 lbs. away from my goal weight and need to firm up my body. Will report back each week."
11/05/2009: Jp from Pomona, New York replies: "Rikigirl, I'll be looking forward to your weekly updates on this. I plan on starting this in a week or two. I just placed an order for the cinnamon. I'm hoping this will help my candida problem since nothing else works along with some other health issues."
11/09/2009: Reikigirl from Millstone Twp., Nj replies: "Mini Beet Protocol update: My first post was 11/03/09 and I started the MBP that day. It's been one week and I haven't noticed any changes in wrinkles or cellulite yet. I have noticed that I've been able to accomplish more things in my day. Seems like an increase in energy without feeling like you've had too much caffeine. Also, according to Robert Von an important part of this is to take 100mg of B6 and 300mg of magnesium daily to avoid the possibility of developing kidney stones from using the MBP. I started that today. Tomorrow I am increasing the juice to 1/2 cup asparagus and 1/2 cup beet. I am cautious about trying to do too much too soon so I'm sticking with the MBP as written. Will report back again in one week."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 11/16/2009: Reikigirl from Millstone Twp., Nj replies: "Mini beet protocol update: I'm sorry to say I can no longer continue with the MBP. During my 2nd week I experienced problems with bloating and a sick feeling stomach. So I finished the 2nd week and decided not to go on to the 3rd which would be the full amount of beet juiced to equal one cup and asparagus juiced to equal 3/4 cup. I can't think of anything that I was doing that would cause these problems other than the MBP. I'd like to hear if anyone else has had these problems or success with the MBP. Thanks."
11/17/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Sorry to hear you're giving up. I think it may be that you were moving too fast. To be honest, we stayed with the straight mini beet protocol for only about a week and then through lots of research began to add in lots of dark greens in addition to the beet/asparagus mixture. We have had nothing but incredible results which you can read about in all my previous posts as I have been giving updates as promised when my husband and I first began this journey almost a month and a half ago. Our bodies are singing praise and my pain is gone. To everyone suffering with body pain/arthritis- it's due to too much cooked food and not enough raw veggies/greens and fruit. It all has to do with the enzymes that our body really needs. Since embarking on this, I have tried eating cooked food meals 3x and about a half hour afterward the pain immediately returns. It is so debilitating that as of last night, my husband said to me, "That's it, I think we can see a direct correlation between your physical pain and the food." Yesterday, started with a green smoothie- of which we have moved on to instead of just juicing as both of our bodies are in much better shape to be able to handle this after strengthening them through pure juicing. For lunch, a raw soup-gently warmed and salad. Dinner was an Israeli salad which was diced tomatoes, cucumbers, parsley, green onion and red onion and portabello mushrooms with mushroom "gravy". Oh sing praise! Body pain completely gone again. The benefits just keep coming!
To Janice from Coloma, Mi- I hope you're reading this because it isn't just broccoli but all dark greens and yes, they must be raw.
To Belladonna from Toronto- a shout out to the delicious green smoothie!
To Taleen from Ft. Lauderdale, Fl- all I can say is the money spent for organic veggies and staying healthy is money well-spent. We could be paying doctors thousands of dollars instead and I'd rather be in charge of my own health. I think if you see it as an investment into your own well-being, it's well worth it. After all, you've lost weight and have glowing skin! That's only the outside! Think of all your insides thanking you for what you're giving them.
Here's to our health! Lisa"
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10/13/2009: Rob from Manhattan, New York writes: "Mini Beet Protocol
That is quite a list of benefits! Without solid studies and verified lab tests these claims come off as exaggerations and at worst flaky. No doubt however, a healthy drink. Beets, are considered longevity food in many cultures. Borsch, is one great example and all the more powerful if you have a loving grandmother serving it to you. As for Asparagus, I came across this study ..... (Researchers in South Korea at the Institute of Medical Scienceand Jeju National University evaluated the effects of young asparagus shoots and leaves on liver cells from humans and rats. In an extract form, asparagus leaves and shoots significantly eased alcohol's oxidative stress on liver cells and the toxic effects associated with a hangover)........
So I will give this a go to see if it helps with my inflammation...as for clearing my brain and getting rid of my Nano Insects? well...I need more proof. Not completely dismissing...just give me more sound info! Will report back."
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10/10/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA writes: "So, I am on day 3 of the mini beet protocol and no side effects at all. I am drinking the juice in the morning of beet/asparagus mixture and then following with the apple and carrot. I did notice yesterday that my facial skin was very clear and a very healthy color but other than that nothing. Of course, it has only been a few days at this point. I am a very healthy eater believing in eating "close to the earth" which includes vegetables, meat and fish. I also have done a lot of the cleansing/ detox remedies from this site. ACV, hydrogen peroxide, baking soda, oil pulling, etc. which could contribute to why I don't feel any signifcant side effects of detoxing. I started cautiously with 1/4 of both beet and asparagus juice but this morning I took it up to 1/2 of each and so far, so good. I will keep you posted on the results as I go.
I am curious though as to where it was mentioned that Theo of Ottawa, Canada heard a lot of audio of Robert von Sarbacher. I can't find any anywhere on the web other than his one page he has posted on his MBP. If anyone can lead me to that I would appreciate it as I would love to hear him speak on it. He makes some pretty hefty claims as to results of this regimen so we'll see..."
EC: Hi Lisa,
3 links below Robert's photo on his home page here: http://robertvon.com/
The first 2 links are audio files from a radio program.
10/15/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, usa replies: "Hi everyone, Well, today I begin week 2 of the mini beet protocol. I have not had any side effects whatsoever from drinking the concoction which I have upped each day after the third day of starting at 1/4 combo of the beet/asparagus juice. The first 3 days I followed up with apple and then carrot. On the fourth day I eliminated the carrot as I had no side effects at all. No side effects. On day 5,6 and 7 I added carrot to the beet/asparagus combo and did not do the apple afterward with no side effects. NOW, I am NOT saying for everyone to follow suit. I am just documenting what I have done. Robert clearly states that there can be serious side effects depending on one's quality of diet. I have a very clean diet of vegetables and meat and fish. I do drink red wine with dinner as well. No sugar, junk food, fast food, desserts. Not because I have to try but, just because I don't want them. I do eat bread but not too much. As for noticing changes- I have noticed that very little hair falls out while washing, maybe 3-4 now. My husband has noticed that the front of his hairline has lots of new hair coming in. Now, mind you neither of us has thinning hair but, two years ago I had a severe reaction to dying my hair. I have very dark brown hair but covered up my greying. Well, it was so bad and I was losing chunks of hair which scared me enough to completely stop coloring it. Now I have a lot of grey hair but still a lot of my dark hair. I am hoping that perhaps this MBP will arrest the grey but we have yet to see. I really don't have that many issues from the long list of what MBP can do but, I am always trying things to better my health and this sounded very healthy. I can say my skin has dramatically become very soft and my facial appearance is changing in that the lines by my eyes are disappearing. Is anyone else doing the MBP out there? Post results if you are. By the way, I think the drink is delicious for anyone wondering."
11/05/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Everyone!I haven't written here for quite awhile but I read this site everyday always looking for new info. I had written that I started the mini beet protocol and the last post was about 2 weeks ago. Today marks one month from my first post. I don't want to repeat what I posted the first 2x so I'll continue from my last post. The mbp really got me interested in more info about this but much to my disappointment, there wasn't much on the web other than Robert's very simple site. I also listened to his audio which was quite long but interesting. Well, since there wasn't much more about it, I started going on juicing sites which I began to learn SO much from. Now that my husband and I were up to a large glass of beet/asparagus juice (plus we did not follow it up with the apple/carrot- not recommending one does that, just documenting what we did) I decided to start adding lots of dark greens as many of the juicing sites said greens really benefit us and are full of nutrients and protein that our bodies can readily utilize. Wow! We really started to notice a difference! Then, I decided to start adding in garlic and ginger which is delicious and act as natural antibiotics.
In week 3, we also both started craving our veggie juice, not just in the morning but also about 5pm. We don't eat dinner until about 8 as my work schedule does not permit until then. So, the juice really amped us up in energy. Of course, me, being always curious to know more about health just kept perusing different sites. That led me to the raw food world.
Now, let me tell you, at first I thought,"What? Are these people crazy?" As I was a vegetarian years ago for a long time but then returned to poultry when I was pregnant with my first son when my midwife found me severely anemic and threatened not to let me have a homebirth if she did not see an immediate improvement. (This was a long time ago now. A year later I began to eat beef as well.) I always seemed to have energy issues and obviously very anemic as well as a vegetarian. So, curiously, I began to read more about this "lifestyle" and found lots of sites dedicated to this world. It is fascinating and began to make a lot of sense why these people were so full of energy, looked amazing and much younger than their "real" age. I also could not ignore the fact that through the veggie juice of which we had added kale, chard- all kinds, carrots, radishes, dandelion greens, cucumber, zucchini, apples, cabbage, parsley, cilantro and all sorts of various vegetables but not necessarily all at once, we were seeing all sorts of amazing changes. Lots of energy and a need for less sleep- naturally awake at 5:30 am without even trying. Melasma is something I have had for about 7 years now all over my cheeks and I have tried lots of ways to get rid of it to no avail. Well it is almost completely non-existent at this point. I see a lot of issues with this on this site for those of you plagued with that. All joint pain is gone. (Except, admittedly, my hips still hurt some. Still, after seeing all the results from this juicing, I have hope of that reversing, as well!) My husband who has always dealt with constipation issues has been completely relieved of that. Our skin is so incredibly soft we marvel at it. My eyes are very clear. Also, as Robert von Sarbacher claimed, wrinkles have disappeared on my face. All my pores are very small too of which I have always had problems with large pores and clogged pores trying all sorts of things to remedy that. My hair is growing in dark again of which I have a lot of grey over the last few years. Scalp itch has disappeared, my nail beds are very pink and ridges on the nails are gone. I learned that's from lack of silica of which many people are lacking in.
Anyway, in week 4 I decided I wanted to try giving the raw thing a go. Not radically, just adding in lots more raw. The first 3 days, we had tuna with lots of celery, pickles and onions served over raw tomatoes for lunch. That was it for anything other than raw veggies those days. We both noticed that we began to actually not want meat but in the most natural way- not forced. Now, through learning so much from these various raw sites, I am learning new techniques for food such as raw nut cheeses, nut milks, veggie "pastas", etc. I ended up purchasing a dehydrator to make veggie chips and raw meals. It is a whole new world I am exploring and am so excited about it as I see the amazing changes occurring in the two of us. Also, I have seen miraculous changes in people from these sites with people dropping over 160 lbs, to ridding themselves of many serious issues from fibromyalgia, diabetes, arthritis, chronic depression and fatigue syndrome, etc. I would encourage everyone to just read about it because I see so many things people are plagued with and genuinely want answers to on this site. Google raw food or raw food living/ world, etc. and you will discover truly amazing things! I even went to Borders and found about 5 raw food "cook"books. I bought one called "Raw Food, real world" and have been trying recipes. I also was so impressed with Sarma Melngailis, one of the authors, that I went to her site and loved her blog. She has her own raw food restaurant in NYC and is absolutely beautiful. I emailed her and she wrote me back immediately!
If anyone has questions about sites, people, etc., I would be happy to write and encourage any of you out there.
I realize this is a long post but, I saw a couple of people over the last two days writing about the mbp and I thought I should write my discoveries and real results! I wish you all the best on your quest towards health, happiness and peace.Sincerely, Lisa"
11/05/2009: Phil from Dearing, Ga replies: "Hi Lisa. I am so glad to hear all the good MBP has done for you and your husband. I have had a great desire to try this MBP myself. I did read all the Robert had to say, but did not listen to the recordings or go to his website... On my computer, it wanting me to open up outlook or something like that and I am cautious of things like that. My computer knowledge is limited and I am careful as to what I will open or install.
You may have already addressed this, in one of your previous posts.
Robert, mentions some supplements to keep the body from developing any stones... I believe it was coral calcium, magnesium and one other one.
Are you and your husband taking these suppliments? Because this is really the only thing holding me back, I believe my mother in-law will loan me her juicer for a while. I just don't want to develope stones in any way.
I read all of Roberts post here on EC and clicked the link he mentioned getting the suppliments from. I was unable to find those suppliments on that website.So, on Roberts website and audio how did he address the issue of stones? Could I use the coral calcium, magnesium and other suppliments from another supplier?
I do know he provided a phone number, but thought you may already know.
Thank You,
Phil"
11/05/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Phil,We are not taking any supplements per se. We used to do a lot of supplements but don't anymore and have not for a long time. Instead, we are also taking what they call superfoods. They are maca root, goji berries, flaxseed, hempseed and raw cacao. You can read about these and also hear some of the different people speak about them on the internet. One is David Wolfe who wrote Superfoods. You can watch video of him on youtube. Raw cacao is rich in magnesium. We have all of these in powder form and add them to smoothies.
As for the supplements that Robert recommends for preventing kidney stones, there are 3-coral calcium, 1 tbls. cod liver oil and magnesium chloride. Have you had them before and is that the reason for your concern? If not, I would say try the mbp and then go for the dark green veggies in addition- you will be amazed! There is a lot of calcium in very dark green veggies that are readily usable for the human body. It only takes 15 minutes for the benefits to enter the bloodstream. Hope this helps."
11/12/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "mini beet protocol, juicing and raw foodsToday it has been one month and one week since we embarked on the mini beet protocol and I had promised to keep updates. I want to encourage reikigirl to keep going as it just gets better! And Phil- go for it, don't wait any longer because you will see changes that become remarkable. To be honest though, we only stayed with the true mbp for about one and a half weeks before we began juicing, along with the beets and asparagus, kale, chard, carrots, cilantro, celery, zucchini, cucumbers, ginger, garlic- you name it but especially the dark greens. It has sent me on a journey I can't turn back from now as the results are so wonderful. My skin has become very soft, damage from the sun in Hawaii on one of my arms (go figure) was so bad it looked like it was from a 95 year old is gone, wrinkles have disappeared, my skin is becoming firmer, stomach flatter, almost no mucus at all, ridges on nails gone, circles under eyes gone, hair growing in dark... I have become turned onto the raw food world through all of this and trying the superfoods on this planet from all over the world that can be learned about over the internet. They are maca root, goji berries, raw cacao, hemp seeds, chia, mushrooms and more. We are incorporating them in our diets. Maca root will strengthen the adrenals which I had a serious problem with about 4 years ago now, during a very stressful time that struck while I was in NYC and became unbelievably debilitating. Raw cacao is loaded with magnesium and can help stimulate neurotransmitters in the brain to give a better sense of well-being, strengthens the immune system and can absorb free-radicals from the body. I would encourage a lot of you out there to do the research and find out how to build the bodies natural strength and immunity to rid itself from some of these very insidious diseases that are now on this planet and are invading people's bodies but mostly because of poor diets which weaken our systems. Many of you describe them here on this site. Remember, knowledge is power. Do the research but not from doctors! They don't go the route to healing- they use meds, drugs, surgery. Those things don't heal you, just cover up the true source and often exacerbate the problem. That's what they know so, I don't fault them but I stay clear of them. Often, they don't even know of the things I speak of or even acknowledge them, i.e. candida for one. If you mention this, they may even outrightly scoff at you. (There are some doctors out there sincerely trying to give you good info and you can find their sites on the web.) Remember, doctors make their money from you being sick.
Also, you may think some of these products are expensive (not really) but I would rather find my health, be in charge of it and keep it rather then profit the doctors which will cost you a lot more. I think at this point, everyone is aware of that- at least on this site.
I truly hope this info helps those of you out there sincerely on a quest for health and recovering a healthy body. I am seeing the miraculous results each day and loving it! Peace to all of you out there..."
11/15/2009: Kay from Houston, Tx replies: "wow lisa:) what kind of juicer are you using? i too have gone mostly raw since starting the mbp but have not noticed results like you!:)"
11/15/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Kay! Good for you. I bought a very inexpensive (relatively speaking) juicer from amazon.com. It is the Breville Juice Fountain for $99. I couldn't afford the very high end ones and figured that 1) I could wait while I saved my money to afford one thereby delaying progress or 2) I could go for this one, after all, I didn't know if I would see results, would stick with it at all and wasn't sure if that big investment would pay off. Well, it was the right decision! I saw results quickly. I will give you some tips that I have picked up through my own research on countless sites I have read and studied. I use a lot of greens now in addition to the beets and asparagus and rotate to get different nutrients. As David Wolfe says though, there is no green necessarily better than another- it's all good. Diversity is good though. So, I take the greens- dandelion, beet greens, kale, chard, spinach, etc. and I tightly pack them together into the feed tube then I allow them to slowly move through. I don't force them through with the pusher as you sometimes need to do with the harder vegetables- carrots, beets, etc. I gently apply a little pressure and look at the green juice coming out- as long as that's occurring that's all that needs to be done. The point being to be able to break open the cell walls of the greens as slowly as possible to extract as much juice from them as possible. The higher end very expensive juicers are just that- they grind slowly to extract a lot more out of greens. Perhaps in the future I will invest in one but for now this is working and I am seeing the results exponentially. Especially with going high raw. I am glad to see that you are going the raw way too.
Perhaps you aren't seeing as dramatic results because you were in better health. I always considered myself a healthy food person but I see the difference dramatically now. Each day I crave more raw vegetables and yesterday I tried a cooked meal and it was so disappointing! My husband is in on this with me and this morning he said to me, "Wow, that was not as good as I always remember." It was one of our favorite Indian meals of dal and traditional fare. I said to him that I thought maybe it was just me. I am interested in your progress and any new experiences you are having with this path. Let me know. BTW, I am 52 years young. And the other day, while shopping in Whole Foods, I ran into a mom I knew from our kids- our oldest are now 24 and began kindergarten together. I called out to her and had not seen her for about 3 years- she turned and responded, "My God, don't you age? You have no wrinkles!" Thank you mbp, juicing and raw food! That's how dramatic it has been. Honest. Keep on going Kay- it gets better! "
11/17/2009: Kay from Houston, Tx replies: "hey lisa!:) you are a real inspiration to us! i have the same juicer.:) i have only tried blending the greens for smoothies, not adding them to the MBP so i will try that. (i'm trying to get rid of some acne scars on my face:)) i will try juicing them with the MBP and report back in a week:). thanks so much lisa!:) (i also know that i have digestive issues!)"
11/18/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Kay,So glad I can help! So, have you tried doing the greens yet? I find it works really well. I have only been on the smoothies for a few days now as I needed to strengthen my body first I felt. As for the acne scars, well I have to tell you about aloe vera. I know I wrote about it to someone here but it's worth repeating. I had severe damage to my right arm (nowhere else!) from the sun when we went to Hawaii about 3 years ago now. No matter what I did- coconut oil, grapeseed oil, acv, even strivectin, I could not make my arm look better. It looked like it was from a 90 year old person. Then I heard Daniel Vitalis speak on youtube about aloe vera and immediately went outside to get a leaf from our aloe plant. So far, everything he has said about it has been true. I immediately opened the leaf and spread the gel all over it. By the next day it was already much improved! I also started using it on my face and the skin is getting tauter and very soft and supple. I have been using the same leaf for over a week now and still it is full of gel. After I use it, I press the leaf back together and by the next time I use it, it is rehydrated and ready to use again. So, try it on your face and see if you start to see a difference.
You have to listen to Daniel on youtube because he's very inspiring. Also, David Wolfe- they are at the forefront of this raw food movement and so full of knowledge. It is so inspiring. It has been so fun to explore this world and see how my body sings from it. I hope you are feeling it as well! Keep in touch.Lisa"
11/19/2009: Gean from Salina, Ks replies: "Actually, my question is about the aloe vera. For those of you who have aloe vera in your gardens, can you please tell me the approx. length of what would be considered a "large aloe vera leaf"? I need this information for the aloe/honey cancer cure, and the plants we get at the store are so small that I don't know what a large leaf would look like. How big do they get? Thanks."
11/19/2009: Tahiti from Monroeville, Pa, united states of america replies: "To Lisa about the Mini Beet Protocol, please read below.
This is from Robert Von Sarbarcher. hello how r u !! great to meet you... sorry to take so long to get back, my new # is 940-233-0484 and can call anytime and see if we catch each other... in mean time...
Thanx for the "dr." but I'm not a Dr. yet, hehe, and as for Living well, it sounds like a great juicer.... and I will add you to my email list as soon as I have one No worries...
I'm glad it removed the age spots it's amazing how fast those disappear... IBS? great! glad it's gone, and gone for Good hopefully, but we'll talk more on that in a second... as for the straitening of the hair it 100% most definitely will do that!!! esp if you take some of the left overs and when in the shower you put it in and let it sit, I think one friend of mine left it in all day one day and it helped a lot, that is, they put it in their hair after the shower, and when it dried out on it's own, she put a towel down and slept all night on it, and when got up in morning it was straighter, she did this on a continual basis... it straightened it out to a large extent...
yes I guess I'll have to get to that site earthclinic and start typing in some info for people... more on health care for people..
It's really simple to do some items in nutriiton and fix what's wrong with you, faster and cheaper and easier, more is being discovered every day!!! I would do yourself a favor and take a combo of parsnips and carrots and boil them correctly see attachment and make a 50/50 mix almost of carrot and parsnips with butter and salt and pepper...little more parsnips than carrots the key here is the mix to make it justtttttt right, which is why I boil a lot of each then when I get out the masher and mash them all together I have a little bit of both left over so I can put in a littlemore parsnips or carrots to make it freakishly addictive, remember a little more of the parsnips than the carrot!! woo hoo that will drive you up the wall for yippie-ness
ok... as for IBS start consuming one romaine lettuce salad every other day with extra tomatoes for life please, must start with that to get it in you good!
add turnips to diet by putting them in with white onions and broccoli whenever steam or boil veggies... Here's what I do every night, I put in usually these 3 turnips, broccoli, white onion, and sometimes extras like asparagus and yellow squash and parsnips and maybe rhutabega adn sometimes beets, and steam them for 14 mins, and when done, I IMMEDIATELY dump them in plastic bag and dump them into the fridge and when Im up in morning and have enough veggies for all day - this works soooo well and it's sooo easyyyy dang it! lol... this is how you change your life.. and for the cheap... I also get my broccoli and lots of veggies from the asian markets, the absolutely cheapest markets in history to buy anything from and if no organic I used my depesticiging on them... good luck ttys let me know what else happens..
Robert vonPS cooked beets are nothing in comparison to raw, so if you wish to, you eat one beet raw and follow it with one apple every day and this will be your beets instead of MBP ok? try this with getting turnips in you every day and watch what happens to your body.. however, first off I would start off with the 10 day trial - that is, 10 days, 1x/day you are to eat 1 cup of goji berries per day!!! in 10 days yoiu will have the blood of an Olympic Athlete!! ok? it'll cost you about $70 ish or so to do that for 10 days, good luck...see what you feel like after that!
m Robert Von Sarbarcher himself."
11/20/2009: Tricia from Ireland replies: "Hi Gean, I don't know where I got this info so I can't confirm that it is correct but I read somewhere that to get the most nutrient content from an aloe vera leaf it should be at least 14 inches in length."
11/20/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hey Tahiti, Thanks so much for passing that letter on! I tried once more yesterday trying to find more on mbp on the web with no luck so this was awesome. He is so full of enthusiasm as I find all of these people who are involved and living this life of healthy eating with veggies, juicing and raw foods. They literally ooze with life force! I love it and am finding it so inspiring. They are so willing to pass on vital information to help improve one's life/health. I find each day from doing this which is now a month and a half, that I am doing the same. Bubbling with excitement to see all the changes occurring in me. Wanting everyone to try giving it a chance only to see problems disappear. I am going to try the parsnip/carrot recipe although for two weeks we have been raw and the changes have accelerated. Again thank you. I may try writing him myself and thank him for the info. Lisa"
11/22/2009: Kay from Houston, Tx replies: "hi lisa:) how many times a day were you juicing the greens? plus, did you drink it right away or store it in the fridge for later in the day? i got an aloe vera plant:). i'll let you know in a week how that goes with the juicing of the greens with the mbp:)."
11/22/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Kay, We were doing greens with the beets both in the morning and then around 5pm. From all the research I've done, it's best to drink it immediately, not save it. Honestly, the Breville is so easy to use that juicing with it is easy. The reason is because you want all those enzymes that are in there and they dissolve pretty quickly as time goes by. It's the oxidization. There are people who say that if you MUST save it for later, put it in a glass jar and make sure it is flush to the lid so that there is no oxygen in there. Personally, I'd rather get as many health benefits as I can from the juice. So, you got an aloe vera plant! Good for you. Did you plant it? I cannot believe how wonderful it has made my skin feel. I use it all over my face and neck. Of course, I know the juicing has been extremely effective. Did you get around to watching any of the videos on youtube I recommended? Also, look up rejuvelac. I have begun drinking that- it is full of enzymes, vitamins, and friendly bacteria. I bought some so I could start right away. I am going to make my own though after finally getting some hard red wheat berries to sprout beginning this morning. I watched how to make it on youtube. Good video with Angela Stokes and also Ann Wigmore who was famous for helping heal people who had all sorts of ailments including cancer with juicing at her healing center. I am looking forward to hearing about how your next week goes. Are you eating a standard diet in addition to your juicing or are you eating more vegetarian? We are at about 90% raw at this point for about 2 and a half weeks now. Such a vast world to explore! I'm so curious to hear your results and discoveries. Have fun on your journey. Lisa"
11/23/2009: Kay from Houston, Tx replies: "hi lisa!:) you are so sweet to write back so soon!:) thanks; we have only been juicing once a day; i will try twice a day with the extra greens:). yes, we are 90% raw; just fish maybe every other day; otherwise, juice, the green smoothies, hemp seeds, chia seeds, raw cacao, goji berries, stuff like that:). yes, i've looked up some of the youtube videos!:) they are great and inspirational:). my husband says he thinks the scars on my face are better already!:) (not all the way but a definite improvement:)) i'll keep you posted!:) (the aloe vera plant was kind of small so we bought two;we planted them:)insearch of a bigger one because i'll be using alot!:)"
11/23/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Kay, I know what you mean about using the aloe a lot. I wanted to tell you that I found a place called Aloe Farms because I thought of perhaps ordering large leaves of it. I thought you'd be interested because they are located in Harlingen, Texas and sell very large leaves which I can purchase here in one of our health food stores and it says they can last a month. Check them out. I am using the aloe and coconut oil alternating through the day and almost all melasma has disappeared from my face!
Also check out Raw Freedom community to find a very extensive recipe section with lots of very yummy recipes which we have tried quite a few of at this point and they have not disappointed. Also, did you look into rejuvelac? Do you have a local health food store that you go to or do you order online? I do both.
I saw that Jenine from Pomona, NY has joined us beginning with the mbp. A shout out to you Jenine and good for you for going for it! You will not be disappointed and I look forward to hearing about your progress.
Take care and here's to our health, Lisa"
12/01/2009: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "This post is for Kay from Houston, TX- First of all thanks for your fantastic info on superfoods. I have checked it out. I would love to hear how you're doing with your juicing, superfoods, etc. I sent earthclinic my email address for you but they don't have yours. If you are interested in corresponding you could give them your email address and they could give you mine that way. I don't want to violate the guidelines of site names, products, etc. but I wanted to ask you about some of them I have read about and see if you've actually used any of them. Thanks so much! Lisa"
12/11/2009: Anonomous from Falling Pines, America replies: "QUESTION TO TAHHITI FROM MONROEVILLE PA. I noticed in the letter that you posted from Robert on here to Lisa.
Robert said see attached, for correct way of boiling and also mentioned his depestisizing of non organic foods.
Would you be so kind as to post that information here?
Thank you, so much!"
12/12/2009: Tahiti from Monroeville, Pa, United States of America replies: "To Anonymous of Falling Pines, America - Here is the information you requested. This is all of the information that I have received from Robert Von Sarbacher so far. I will post more when I hear from him again. Hope this helps! Tahiti
How to cook veggies and recipe
One of the greatest combo recipes in the world for veggies is... yellow squash, broccoli and spinach, and white onions, with butter oil and salt and pepper and trocomare spice and herbamare spice...(spinach is required to be organic or do not get it at all! It is totally worthless now for any nutrition if not organic, it's just empty!)
When you are back onto eating meats again for those that are vegetarians for a few months, you can also put in here some smoked chicken or smoked brisket if you can find a reliable source for smoked meats... (not cured) like I can find here at Whole Foods Grocer.
Whenever you cook veggies via steaming or via boiling - boil in purified water never in distilled ... distilled and/or de-ionized water are for cleanings and for making teas... not for drinking on a regular basis...See Source list for MRET machine and the use of Spring water with it!
When boiling you must never boil veggies or steam them for more than 15 mins or all the enzymes will be dead.... This involves 2 steps ONLY - Step one, put veggies in water that is ALREADY briskly boiling, this may cause it to stop boiling for a few mins maybe 10 mins, that's fine, just wait til 10 mins is up and take it off the heat or wait the 10 to 12 mins til it starts to finallllly boil again then step 2, DUMP IT, strain it! Remove it from the heat... stop the cooking process... DO NOT turn off the stove and leave it there in the hot water! This will kill it! Do not place it originally in water that is cold and wait the 30 mins to an hour for it to start boiling, they will be dead b4 then! Do not wait for it to come back to a boil so you can count down your 7 to 10 mins of cook time...just start counting from the min you put all the veggies in EVEN if those veggies caused it to stop boiling...no big deal! It will boil again in a few mins or sometimes 10, then when starts boiling again, it's usually perfect 30 second to 2 mins after that... sometimes right then with no more wait! Check and see...
Steaming will kill veggies as easily as boiling but b/c of massively uneven heat distribution ... do you see a problem?? Most veggies will be "al-dente"... little hard or crisp or what have you... that's fine if you prefer it that way.... You know that is truly better than boiling for nutrition, unless you're 88 and you need everything hot and mushy like with boiling... otherwise steaming always comes out superior b/c less cooked... and only one thing better.... Eating them RAW!"
12/12/2009: Tahiti from Monroeville, Pa, United States of America replies: "To Anonymous from Falling Pines, America. Here is the second part of the information that you requested. Here's to your health! Tahiti
Salt and all that is good about it
All studies done on salt being bad for you were done on pure adulaterated filth, but for whatever reason, they still humorously saw fit to still call it salt anyway! Even though had they continued with this form of filthy, trash salt since b4 the 1950s, if they had not added Iodine to it, they would've wiped out all mankind (salt naturally has plenty of iodine in it, they process it to such an extreme that it is there is no iodine or ANYTHING good in it, then add the iodine back in so that mankind does not get wiped out). That is, they still used this salt then (back in the 50s and b4) with iodine added (so that they would not wipe out mankind) in order to do experiments with/studies on that type of salt, thus telling everyone that salt was bad for you, even for the heart... (though it does not stop them instantly from giving a saline/salt IV the second you have a heart attack, hmm)... anyway... without going into forever on describing how they process salt to make it so amazingly bad for you, (though the anticaking agent used is usually worse than allll the evil they've already done to that pile of white filth when they're done with it) let's just go on with which salt to get and how to take it, and use it, and be efficient cost wise about it...
[seems everyyyyone is really interested in how they turn the worlds #1 nutrient and most potent cell mover and shaker and anti-parasitic and brain chemistry enhancer and heart beat repairer into a poison that has the exact opposite affect.. it's simple they turn it into acid! This is how it works... all salt that exists in the world today comes from sea water, whether that sea water comes from dried up sea water in ancient mines we mine out as "rock mine salt" or whether it comes from dehydrating sea water directly from the sea... to make this sort and sweet - here's how it happens. First they went to Mexico and started harvesting their sea water off the coast, it's highly polluted and now worthy of ever being made into salt, no official in Mexico doesn't know this but it doesn't matter considering what they are about to do with it. They will place this sea water into giant Olympic pool size cement vats and let it dry out, and being polluted it dries into a black goo. Being in cement it has soaked up all the cement toxins, most notably amount these toxins is aluminum which goes majorly into the making of cement... they then take this dehydrated sea water black mesh out with a bulldozer and heat it up to a crazy temp to remove all the impurities (thus removing all the pollutants from the sea, and ALL OF THE MINERALS THAT BALANCE THE SALT AND KEEP IT FROM BEING ACIDIC!!!) and in doing this heating, they SEAL IN ALL THE CEMENT TOXINS which cannot be cooked out, isn't that special? They then bleach it to make it white again, and instead of 10 to 15% minerals with the salt it is now 99.9% salt and no minerals, uh, except powdered aluminum, well cooked in, and other cement toxins, and now it's acidic, and when it combines with sugar in foods you eat, salt and sugar together as in every recipe book since Betty Crocker when on the salt with sugar rampage, those 2 together are like running acid thru your blood! Not just ACIDIC sorta kinda, but like acid running thru your veins... sigh, anyway, despite all the evil they do to salt they use this method to make it so that it is superrrrrr cheap... thus the world renowned currency becomes a poison instead of a thing of beauty. Worse than this, it wouldn't have been so bad had they just turned this into you average filthy poison, but they went one step further and added a poisonous anti-caking agent to it! They don't even have to put it on the ingredient label! LOL The anti-caking agent is so messed up that it is WORSE THAN ALL THE EVIL THEY JUST GOT THRU DOING TO THE SALT IN THE FIRST PLACE! It is a radical destroyer of your blood pressure (the anti-caking agent is) and it's affects build up in your body.... Regardless of this, keep this in mind... that real salt, with minerals intack, will lower your blood pressure RADICALLY and within 30 seconds to 30 mins!! It's that fast... here's how you test it... take a blood pressure reading beforehand, then put 1 tsp of salt on your tongue, say Flower of the Ocean brand Celtic Sea Salt, let it dissolve slowly for 5 mins, then take another reading on your blood pressure, then at 5 mins, then at 15 mins then at 30 mins and watch it plummet, THIS IS REAL TRUE SALT - the world's most amazing super fast healer and destroyer of all ulcers and internal tissue strife, a major healer! Well, that was the reallllly short version so moving along]
Redmond Real Salt brand of salt is one of the cleanest salts there is... it is also the cheapest of all the good and acceptable salts! It's a Rock Mine Salt - You can buy a salt shaker of it and then the refill bag and use this in all your cooking, by adding salt AFTER you finish cooking, but still, if you ever use salt in your cooking, then you at the very least now have this and other good salts to use, in the actual cooking process which is better than the bleached, 'anticaking (free flowing) agent filled' salts... you get the idea... this is the one I tell people to get for their everyday needs, b/c it is not expensive though it is still not a therapeutic salt like below...
But for therapeutic salts I tell people to always get Flower of the Ocean Celtic Sea Salt... this is the highest amount of minerals available in a salt in the USA and is good for lowering High Blood Pressure ... I have it put into a formula : a quart water or so with ¼ tsp of salt and drunk thru the day... making sure with this much salt for therapeutic reasons taken, is always balanced out with one orange and one banana by end of day.... www.watercure.com, or www.watercure2.org for more info on forcing water out of the blood stream and into cells thus forcing HYDRATION of the body... making you thirsty and wanting to drink more water... I also use this one above for a huge variety of other things, esp asthma, etc... but that is for the future...in the mean time... Salt is the escort of water into the cells, the passkey sort of, but not really, but it's a good analogy to get to understand its significance...Just like insulin is the passkey for sugar to get into a cell so that it can be burned and used.
A lot of people are into another high mineral salt as well called Himalayan Sea Salt... but there is soooo much corruption surrounding this salt that the only one I feel ok about recommending for this is one: life-enthusiast.com ... keep in mind though that Himalyan salt will not hold PH level of the blood, just like it will NOT hold the PH of water for more than a few hours b4 the PH of water falls, this is not the case with the above Flower of the Ocean which truly holds in place the whole PH of the blood b/c it's mineral content is so high. I should right a few pages on this subject, but know that Himalayan is inferior.
Next good salt is Sun Fire Salt from myself at my website which will be here at month's end - it's www.WorldNutritionSource.com
Celtic Grey Sea Salts of all kinds.. first thing you notice when switching over to ANY of the salts above or even regular Celtic Grey Salts, is that there is no more swelling going on in the wrists or arms or ankles... congrats on getting rid of a lot of water weight retention by way of using good salts instead of filthy salts...it will NOT get rid of it all, that requires another diet but it will help in that regard...
My personal recommendation is this, for therapeutic use - use the Flower of the Ocean Celtic Salts (it's not grey like the others), and use Real Salt by Redmond for everyday use, so don't have to spend a ton of $...if you're trying to find Flower of the Ocean, google it as I do not sell it yet, however, these are perfect prices if you find it online, for example on Ebay.com $17ish for a ½ lb is a good price so be CAREFUL when you think you're getting ½ price or double pricing and check that you're not paying $8 for ¼ or 1/8 lb, if you see my point! They will TRY to sucker you in....
www.life-enthusiast.com 866-543-3388 (ref # 10240) Himalayan Sea Salt, http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=the gift&search_in_description=1&osCsid=9be510d5689adcbfdf769dff0d69bbe5&x=13&y=16 type in salt in search engine or maybe Himalayan Salt or just Himalayan
Good Luck to All
Robert von
940-233-0484"
12/12/2009: Rob from Manhattan, New York replies: "distilled water is perfectly fine...& good for you.You get plenty of minerals from your veggies, seaweed etc. I prefer pressure cooking my organic beets for about 8 minutes (larger ones) in a cup of water with a dash of vinegar. I then drink this dark red water & find it has such a restorative effect..(a quick russian borscht)"
12/13/2009: Anonomous from Falling Pines, America replies: "THANK YOU Tahiti!
I do wish he would post here on Earth Clinic also. He seems to be very knowledgable when it comes to nutrition for the body. Again thank you so much!
Please continue to post anything else you get from him. I know it is probably a pain but it will help so many people."
12/13/2009: Tahiti from Monroeville, Pa, United States of America writes, "To Anonymous from Falling Pines, America - You are welcome. I will be sure to post any information that I get from Robert Von Sarbacher. I have asked him to consider posting on earth clinic and he said he would think about it. I told him that there were more than a few people interested in what he has to offer. Maybe if those who truly are interested would email him or call him, he might decide to post here. Tahiti"
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09/19/2009: Eve K from Houston, Tx writes: "Whoops, I guess I should have read the instructions again before starting MBP. I just downed a cup of beet juice and a cup of asparagus juice. Too much for a first-timer, according to all of the feedback. Well, good thing I am sticking close to home today in case it makes me ill. I also forgot to do the cinnamon first. I am primarily doing this for fluoride detoxing, although the other benefits would be nice too. My goal right now is to stick with it for 2 weeks and see if there is any benefit. If Robert is reading this, is that long enough to expect a difference?"
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09/17/2009: Laurie from Belleville, Ontario, Canada writes: "Hello
Well I've decided to try the MBP. I bought a bunch of beets, asparagus, apples, carrots & celery today. I did the first "treatment", but had forgotten about the cinnamon (too much of a hurry to start lol )
1/4 cup beet juice, plus 1/4 cup asparagus juice; followed by 1 apple and one carrot. The drink is Very good, no bother at all, I ate the apple & carrot and only ended up experiencing a vague feeling of nausea.
1've just had my second treatment (cinnamon plus the juice) and will have a 3rd later. So far so good.
I'll let you know later how the first week goes
I noticed in Roberts Audio he mention protocol can remove all traces of a smoking habit, including the desire to smoke in only ONE WeeK. I did email him, although in all fairness it was only a couple days ago, and I'm sure he's a very busy man.
So Robert if by chance you are reading this. Can you please give us an exact protocol for removing smoking traces in Only ONE Week.... especially for beginners of the MBP like me ??
Thank you
All the best wishes for everyone here."
09/17/2009: Marie from Philadelphia, Pa replies: "Hi Laurie,
I've been looking everyday on Earth Clinic to see if any one was doing the MBP. I started Saturday, and I'm only doing it once a day. I missed two days but did it again this morning. I'm hoping this will help with my very serious systemic candida problem. I've had this problem for years and have tried soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many different things. I really can't eat sugar or I get a reaction and I feel the yeast in my vaginal area and I feel it before I have to urinate. TMI?????? Sorry. I'm desperate and I'm hoping this will work. I think I'm going to increase taking the mbp.Please keep us posted with your results and I will do the same.
Wishing us both success!!!
Marie"
09/18/2009: Gean from Salina, Ks replies: "I can't say I have been doing the Mini Beet Protocol, but I guess I would call it the Modified Mini Beet Protocol. Here's what I've been doing for a couple of months, off and on: I started with 1/4 beet, sliced and blended well with a little water. Drink this down with an extra large straw (I saved mine from a gas station drink). Then eat a few raw asparagus spears. Then eat one carrot, and then one apple. I figured the extra fiber would not hurt, plus getting the juicer all dirty for 1/4 beet seemed like a huge ordeal. I also felt better about less waste of a vegetable; also I thought the fiber might help push out toxins. I felt a little nauseated when I did this every day, so I went to every other day for a week. Then every day. Then I increased to 1/2 beet, and skipped the asparagus. Liver spots on my face are quickly fading, as well as red bumps around the lymph node areas, which after a while seem to turn into skin tags. I believe that if you have a clean, healthy liver, everything else follows. I found this method to be less time consuming, since the blender is much easier to rinse clean! It's a sustainable habit, in other words. If it's too hard, you'll stop doing it."
09/18/2009: Laurie from Belleville, Ontario, Canada replies: "Hello Marie from Philadelphia: Firstly... I too am wishing you success at ridding yourself of the candida and of good health in general. I will continue to rate MBP here for as long as I can afford to do it (Asparagus here is very expensive)
I DO hope you're feeling much better Very soon
Laurie
Gean from Salina, Ks:
If you don't mind my asking how long have you been doing the MBP including your modified version ?? How long was it before you saw "Liver spots on my face are quickly fading, as well as red bumps around the lymph node areas" ? This is very intriguing !
Please keep us all posted on your results
Laurie"
09/19/2009: Gean from Salina, Ks replies: "I have been doing the "MMBP" (modified mini beet protocol) for a couple of months, though not continuously. I've taken days off, or a week or two off here and there. I've also included cooked canned beets in my diet now and then. I don't know exactly when I first realized the liver spots were fading, but all of a sudden I noticed they were like 50% faded. Now it seems like every day they are a little lighter, same with the lymph spots, where before they seemed to be getting darker and darker."
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08/30/2009: Leanne from Brisbane, Qld Australia writes: "Day one of the MBP - I can't stand cinnamon so have omitted that step - I started with oil pulling, then mixed half a cup of beetroot (as it's called here in Australia) juice and half a cup of celery juice. It smelled just a tad earthy and like Dianna from Texas I've had some really special moments with straight beetroot juice in the past, so I added a splash of apple cider vinegar. I drank it slowly over 5 minutes with no ill effects. It tasted a bit salty, but was definitely palatable. I didn't feel at all unwell, and actually forgot to eat the apple and carrot, but ate an apple about half an hour later when I felt hungry. (Ruddy rabbit food!) I've felt good all day, no side effects, however I have been on ACV and bicarb soda as well as oilpulling for around a week, which may have already detoxed me to a degree.
I think that sipping slowly is the key to beetroot juice - chugging it down pretty much guarantees an instant, violent and spectacular multi-coloured display in the bathroom! I'm using the MBP primarily as a liver detox to aid a weight loss programme, which incorporates ACV and bicarb soda, VCO and oilpulling. I also take about 10 grams of calcium ascorbate daily.
Will let you know how the MBP progresses"
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07/12/2009: Silvy from Amsterdam, Holland writes: "Hi,First I want to say that I love this site!! I have a question regarding the mini beet protocol. I'm wondering if I should first cook the beet and the asparagus before juicing?"
EC: Both should be juiced raw, not cooked!
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06/11/2009: Dianna from Austin, Tx writes: "hi - i just wanted to say that i used to often enjoy beet juice with carrot juice. then one day i decided to try just straight beet juice. about 10 minute after i ate it i suddenly felt extremely ill and had to rush to the restroom to throw up. it was actually very funny because it was a white marble bathroom and you can imagine what it looked like after i was finished. i never drank straight beet juice again! yes it is very detoxifying stuff! maybe i will try it like this. thanks"
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[QUESTION] 06/07/2009: Catherine from Seattle, Washington USA writes: "Questions about the mini beet protocol...can anyone help? I cannot find much information on the internet about it.
1. What is the major beet protocol? The author mentions it but does not say what it is. I imagine it is several cups of beet juice and asparagus per day?
2. Should the juice be drunk on an empty stomach? First thing in the morning? 3 hours after food okay?
3. What is the purpose of the cinnamon?"
06/07/2009: PR from Houston, Texas replies: "Hi just click on the link below and read the whole article. This article will answer all your questions. http://robertvon.com/mbp.html"
06/07/2009: Catherine from Seattle, Washington replies: "Response to PR, Maybe I am missing something, but I read the protocol page 3 times very carefully and did not see my answers questioned!! I know there are 2 video links too, but they cause my browser to freeze so I am unable to watch them. I looked on YouTube and didn't see anything there.I am hoping someone who knows a lot about juicing can answer my questions."
06/11/2009: Robert von from Dallas, Texas replies: "USING THE MBP
Sorry you're having trouble understanding it Catherine... I've made quite a few updates for people but it has not been posted yet, I'll try to see if I understand Earthclinic well enough to alter items in here to make it more easily understood... we'll see...for now, and until I get to updating things in here, here's the simple skinny:
You juice one cup of beet juice then 3/4 cup of asparagus juice (or 1 cup), then mix them together, then drink them IMMEDIATELY, b4 the enzymes die... then eat 3 apples then 2 carrots in that order... I have people usually do the cinnamon before even starting to juice everything (see MBP)...and just like apples, this cinnamon is a potent remover of the side effects of beets, but some can't take cinnamon at all, so feel free to skip that step if you're annoyed too much by the cinnamon.
This drink is to be thought of as a supplement... therefore you can drink it morning, noon or night, in the middle of the meal, on empty stomach, right after a meal, on a full stomach or whenever, etc... as for the eating of apples/carrots right after, can take up to 2 hours to get those done but you must get them into your stomach and in that order, first finish off the apples and then do the carrots... (over time you will need less and less apples to remove the detox side effects of beets.
This drink is so detoxing that if you were to do it without the apples and carrots you would end up hospitalized within days, with the worst side effects known to man, it is after all the single most detoxing substance in existence on this planet... as should be rightly seen from the fact that wrinkles disappear from your face within days to weeks to months depending on your age, right in front of your eyes... it's effectiveness on the human body also depends on if you're a nutrition freak like me who never eats anything bad for him or if you're a pastry and donut type eater that is non-stop with the twinkies (I'm totally not judging you, just giving humorous examples and spreading the love).... what I'm saying is that blood chemistry plays an obvious part in how fast this will work.... blood chemistry being how much filth is in your blood via bleached sugar, and bleached starch, and bleached flour and bleached salt, that might hinder this or any other protocol.... obvious stuff of course but mentioning it anyway.
If you do this drink and experience even the slightest sore throat then please increase the # of apples you're eating and stop doing the MBP til you're perfect again, just eat apples and veggies til throat is back to normal.... never ever push the MBP... take your SWEET TIME. Make sure you're feeling better on this almost every day of doing it for it to work, else take some time off to recharge b4 going back on it again.
Those who are weak with anemia absolutely cannot do this protocol even though it will reverse anemia... why? If you do this in such a weakened state, you will not be able to withstand the cleansing even if eat enough apples, your energy will tank... therefore, first reverse the anemia with beef liver in a few days, and at worst 1 month depending on the type and severity of the anemia and then you'll be good to go to do the MBP...why would you use MBP to reverse anemia over months and months when beef liver done 3x/day will usually reverse it in 3 days... depending on anemia and severity thereof (a Nobel prize was one between two MDs that discovered this fact!!).
Other diseases like Lyme's, Lupus, etc. they might make it so that you can only do the absolute tiniest amount of this protocol to start, then do it for like 3 days as an example, then do it for 3 more then off for 3 and back and forth, - the reason for this is that there are zero nutrients in such people, just to exaggerate a bit... the diseases ate all your nutrients or made you so that no nutrients could get in your body thru the years wearing you down via eating away any stomach acid you have so that nothing you ate over time could be broken down - getting worse every year with less and less stomach acid... Does all that make sense, so to do the mini beet protocol I highly prefer people eat massively BUILDING foods while doing it so that it is easy to do... such foods are called Vegetables... tocotrienol powder wouldn't hurt at all either and I highly prefer everyone doing my MBP to take herbal calcium or otherwise to keep calcium high... (To restate: veggies, tocotrienols and herbal calcium... these are greatttttt to do while doing the MBP and even when NOT doing it.)
I could go ON and ON about all the nooks and crannies of how to apply the MBP haha, but the bottom line is that the weaker your condition the more you need super veggies with which to do something this cleansing...b4 I go I will give two examples...
A Naturopath/Chiropractor in California was infected (I have no idea how) with a number of diseases at once, I never asked how.... Hep C and few others as well as Lyme's, and although he had helped to alleviate and reverse 100s if not 1,000s of his patients of their diseases, even the removal of every disease he had EXCEPT Lyme's - yet this one last annoyance of Lyme's having been with him for 10 years was just destroying him and he wasn't sure how much longer he had to live since it was slowly sucking him down... a good friend of mine and the most charitable woman I know, gave my MBP to him without my knowledge... now remember he has nothing left but Lyme's and suffered with it deteriorating more and more each day for just over 10 years... his left foot is 2x the size of his right foot and has been this way for more than 1 year.... he has little stomach acid to boot... just hanging on there and barely able to work anymore
In 10 days after giving him this protocol, I receive a phone call with my friend, and the g/f of the naturopath calling to tell me the MBP has reduced his foot to the same size as his other foot in 10 days, but it was sooo detoxing and he was soooooo weakened already, that he had to stop it... I told her, "that is totally required! Stop it please, and rest, eat veggies and eat apples and regain strength..." he began again (this time with his g/f also doing this protocol) for another few days and continued on the MBP off and on for 2 1/2 months...each time getting off to recharge himself and rest up and gain some strength at which time I get this little note from my friend.... both the naturopath and the g/f (girlfriend)... have checked their blood... not even the tiniest trace of mycoplasms, candida, germs, viruses or bacteria... cleaner than anything he'd ever seen in blood before...(he's NEVER gotten rid of his g/f's candida b4!) with only a few traces of spyrochete's left in his blood, almost nothing, so the lyme's was almost completely washed away...
So the moral of this story is that it very potent and I guarantee you that if he continues the use of the MBP that it will completely permeate his bones and tissues COMPLETELYYY, to the extent that even the most imbedded spyrochete's of Lyme's disease, no matter how far impedded in bone, no matter how tough or resolute it is, no matter how far imbedded in tissues nor how old or powerful they may be, they will be forced out or vaporized, whichever comes first.
Next, one of my friends in El Paso, has quite a few maids, and asked me down to go over many items on nutrition and supplements and the MBP... I even showed all the maids/cooks/etc how to do it, so that her and her family could have it done for them easily ..... however, almost but not quite 3 months later... I returned to find not one of them had done the MBP even once LOL... how humorous is that... but here's the good part: one of the maids who goes back to Mexico, simple boarder crossing by a few miles, every Mon, Tues and Wed, was using this MBP on her son! He was one big pimple!!! just endless pimples all over his face... when I had returned... I found out that this sweetheart of a maid had been giving the MBP to her son ONLY on those 3 days of the week, NO CHANGE IN DIET AT ALLLLLL! Just added the MBP to his diet (of whatever he regularly ate) on those 3 days per week... he was 99% acne free when I returned < 3 months later... I think you're seeing my point.
But just to reiterate, even doing a little of the MBP say ONLY 3 days per week, I highly prefer doing just this little of it, only 3 days/week - and just keep up with eating a few apples on the days off, adding them to your diet of whatever you usually eat on those days off when not doing the MBP. This MBP does NOTTT have to be done every day to be affective...
I hope these small examples clear up some things for you... most especially how easy it is to do this simple juicing ... 2 cups of juice when combined, then eat apples then eat carrots... simple I hope.
I wish you all, all of you, the best, let me know how your nutrition experiments go, and I'll do the same.
Robert von
(note: cannot juice the apples or carrots in order to remove detox side effects, I've tried, it 100% does NOT work, only eating of apples will remove detox side effects...more details are on the MBP.)"
EC: Thank you so much for this information, Robert. Great!!
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[QUESTION] 06/07/2009: Luis from Cali, Colombia writes: "Beet Juice Lowers High Blood Pressure -- I would like to read opinions of knowing people about this topic, because there are opposing versions. Thank you.
1. High-nitrate vegetables good for cardiovascular health (2008).
2. High-nitrate vegetables bad for forming carcinogenic N-nitrosamines (if combined with a fish meal) (1998).
3. High-nitrate vegetables bad for systemic nitrate exposure (2008).
4. High-nitrate vegetables good for lowering risk of certain forms of cancer and cardiovascular disease (2006).
1. Diets rich in fruits and vegetables reduce blood pressure (BP) and the risk of adverse cardiovascular events. However, the mechanisms of this effect have not been elucidated. Certain vegetables possess a high nitrate content, and we hypothesized that this might represent a source of vasoprotective nitric oxide via bioactivation. In healthy volunteers, approximately 3 hours after ingestion of a dietary nitrate load (beetroot juice 500 mL), BP was substantially reduced (Delta (max) -10.4/8 mm Hg); an effect that correlated with peak increases in plasma nitrite concentration. The dietary nitrate load also prevented endothelial dysfunction induced by an acute ischemic insult in the human forearm and significantly attenuated ex vivo platelet aggregation in response to collagen and ADP. Interruption of the enterosalivary conversion of nitrate to nitrite (facilitated by bacterial anaerobes situated on the surface of the tongue) prevented the rise in plasma nitrite, blocked the decrease in BP, and abolished the inhibitory effects on platelet aggregation, confirming that these vasoprotective effects were attributable to the activity of nitrite converted from the ingested nitrate. These findings suggest that dietary nitrate underlies the beneficial effects of a vegetable-rich diet and highlights the potential of a "natural" low cost approach for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
Source: Hypertension. 2008 Mar;51(3):617-9.
Acute blood pressure lowering, vasoprotective, and antiplatelet properties of dietary nitrate via bioconversion to nitrite.
Webb AJ, Patel N, Loukogeorgakis S, Okorie M, Aboud Z, Misra S, Rashid R, Miall P, Deanfield J, Benjamin N, MacAllister R, Hobbs AJ, Ahluwalia A.
Clinical Pharmacology, William Harvey Research Institute, Barts & the London School of Medicine and Dentistry, Queen Mary University of London, Charterhouse Square, London EC1M 6BQ, UK.
2. The aim of the present study was to investigate nitrosamine formation after nitrate exposure at the ADI level. This paper describes the excretion of volatile nitrosamines in the urine of human volunteers after a nitrate load in water in combination with a fish meal, since fish contains high amounts of amines, which are nitrosatable precursors (24,25). This study can contribute to the discussion of the validity of the current ADI of nitrate and nitrite for preventing human health risks.
Exposure to high nitrate levels implies a genotoxic risk for humans due to endogenous formation of carcinogenic N-nitroso compounds. Nitrite derived from nitrate may react in vivo with amines and amides to form N-nitroso compounds. About 300 N-nitroso compounds (NOCs) have been tested for carcinogenicity in experimental animals
Vegetables contain vitamin C and other antioxidants that might prevent nitrosamine formation (45-47). In the present study, nitrosamine formation did increase during nitrate intake in combination with a fish meal, even though the volunteers consumed vegetables. These vegetables (cauliflower, peas, carrots, green beans) were low in nitrate, and their mean vitamin C content was approximately 17 mg of vitamin C per 100 g vegetables (48). Thus, the amount of vitamin C and other antioxidants in these vegetables appeared insufficient to prevent nitrosamine formation.
In conclusion, nitrate intake at the ADI level in combination with a fish meal containing nitrosatable precursors increased NDMA excretion in urine and therefore implies the risk of increased formation of carcinogenic N-nitrosamines. The results of this study suggest that the risk of formation of carcinogenic N-nitrosamines should be taken into account in the currently used ADI value for nitrate and in the drinking water guideline for nitrate.
Source:
Environmental Health Perspectives Volume 106, Number 8, August 1998
Volatile N-Nitrosamine Formation after Intake of Nitrate at the ADI Level in Combination with an Amine-rich Diet Ingrid T.M. Vermeer, Danielle M.F.A. Pachen, Jan W. Dallinga, Jos C.S. Kleinjans, and Jan M.S. van Maanen
Department of Health Risk Analysis and Toxicology, Maastricht University, The Netherlands
3. High dietary nitrate intake may pose a risk to human health. Since up to 80-85% of dietary nitrate intake comes from vegetables, the aim of this study was to determine the absolute bioavailability of nitrate from three nitrate-rich vegetables. In an open, four-way cross-over, single dose study, 12 human subjects underwent the following treatments: (1) intravenous infusion of 500mg sodium nitrate, (2) oral administration of 300g cooked spinach, (3) oral administration of 300g raw lettuce, and (4) oral administration of 300g cooked beetroot. The wash-out period between treatments was at least 6 days. Plasma samples were analysed to assess the nitrate and nitrite concentrations, and pharmacokinetic parameters were calculated. The bioavailability of nitrate was 98+/-12% from cooked spinach, 114+/-14% from raw lettuce and 106+/-15% from cooked beetroot. There was no significant increase in plasma nitrite concentrations. This study shows that nitrate from vegetables, whether cooked or uncooked, is absorbed very effectively, resulting in an absolute nitrate bioavailability of around 100%. Thus, reducing the amount of nitrate in vegetables can be an effective measure to lower the systemic nitrate exposure of the general population. However, other aspects, such as the costs to produce vegetables with a low nitrate content and the possible beneficial effects of nitrate in vegetables, need to be considered when evaluating the usefulness of such a measure.
Source: Toxicol Lett. 2008 Oct 1;181(3):177-81. Epub 2008 Aug 3. LinksThe oral bioavailability of nitrate from nitrate-rich vegetables in humans.
van Velzen AG, Sips AJ, Schothorst RC, Lambers AC, Meulenbelt J.
National Poisons Information Centre, National Institute for Public Health and the Environment, P.O. Box 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven, The Netherlands. Agnes.van.Velzen@RIVM.nl
4. A diet rich in fruits and vegetables is associated with a lower risk of certain forms of cancer and cardiovascular disease, but the mechanisms behind this protection are not completely understood. Recent epidemiological studies suggest a cardioprotective action afforded specifically by green leafy vegetables. We here propose that these beneficial effects are related to the high content of inorganic nitrate, which in concert with symbiotic bacteria in the oral cavity is converted into nitrite, nitric oxide, and secondary reaction products with vasodilating and tissue-protective properties.
Source: Nitric Oxide. 2006 Dec;15(4):359-62. Epub 2006 Mar 24. LinksCardioprotective effects of vegetables: is nitrate the answer?
Lundberg JO, Feelisch M, Bjorne H, Jansson EA, Weitzberg E.
Department of Physiology and Pharmacology, Karolinska Institutet 171 77, Stockholm, Sweden. jon.lundberg@ki.se
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06/06/2009: Catherine from Seattle, Washington USA writes: "The mini beet protocal sounds very interesting. I got on the web and started researching beets! My first results: 2 cups of beet juice a day lowers blood pressure.
http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/news/20080208/beet-juice-lowers-blood-pressure
Feb. 8, 2008 -- Drinking two cups of beet juice a day may reduce blood pressure, a study shows.
The British researchers who conducted the study say the findings add even more weight to the importance of eating a diet rich in fruits and vegetables.
That's because beets (known as beetroot in Britain) are loaded with the nutrient nitrate. Spinach, lettuce, and other green, leafy vegetables also have high levels of nitrate.
Previous studies have shown that eating a diet high in fruits and vegetables lowers blood pressure. Antioxidants often get the credit, but several recent studies have suggested that nitrates may play a much bigger role. How nitrates work to lower blood pressure has been more of mystery.
How Nitrates May Lower Blood Pressure
In the study, 14 healthy volunteers drank 500 milliliters (2 cups) of Planet Organic beet juice or water within 30 minutes. The researchers checked the participants' blood pressure every 15 minutes one hour before they drank the juice and every 15 minutes three hours after drinking the beet juice. They also checked every hour to six hours and then at 24 hours after they drank the beet juice.
Compared with the water drinkers, blood pressure dropped one hour after the volunteers drank the beet juice. It reached its lowest point 2.5 to 3 hours after ingestion and continued to have an effect for up to 24 hours.
Here's how it works: Nitrate in the beet juice is converted by bacteria living on the tongue into the chemical nitrite. Once it enters the stomach, it becomes nitric oxide or re-enters the blood stream as nitrite. The researchers found that blood pressure was at its lowest when the nitrite levels in the blood were at their highest.
The nitrites, the researchers write, work by protecting against endothelial dysfunction, which means that blood vessels have trouble expanding or contracting to handle changes in blood flow. They also have anti-platelet properties.
"Our research suggests that drinking beetroot juice, or consuming other nitrate-rich vegetables, might be a simple way to maintain a healthy cardiovascular system, and might also be an additional approach that one could take in the modern-day battle against rising blood pressure," says Amrita Ahluwalia, PhD, one of the study's researchers. Ahluwalia is a professor at the William Harvey Research Institute at Barts and The London School of Medicine.
The study is published in the Feb. 4 online edition of the journal Hypertension."
08/16/2009: Betty from Vero Beach, Fl replies: "Not having a juicer, I drink an organic beet juice powder mixed with 2 teaspoons of water occasionally. As I become more accustom to the taste I will drink a cup daily, hopefully, as a blood pressure control. I am 78 years old and my diet is mostly fruits and vegetables and nuts."
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06/04/2009: Deirdre from Earth Clinic writes: "Thank you PR from Houston, Texas, for the mention of the mini beet protocol. I was so intrigued when you sent us the link a few weeks ago, I decided to start the protocol and create a new page on Earth Clinic! I am hoping many of our readers with juicers will try this too since the mini-beet protocol is reported to cure many ailments. In my case I hope to cure a tough case of nail fungus and severely cracked heels. Had the cracked heels for years, but the fungus has appeared more recently. My topical applications of the remedies on EC for nail fungus have not done much. It's time for internal action!
I followed the MBP instructions exactly today and did my 1 teaspoon of cinnamon in a small amount of water, followed by a bigger cup of water. I waited 15 minutes while I juiced 1 beet and 5 stalks of asparagus, which yielded 1/3 cup of each (Robert recommendation for the first week). After I quickly drank the juice (didn't taste bad whatsoever, very surprising), I quickly ate an apple and then a carrot. Am happy to report there was no nausea, exactly as Robert reports on his website. I need to make a trip to Whole Foods to buy all organic ingredients soon as asparagus contains one of the highest amounts of pesticides! Our local grocery stores carry organic apples, but not beets or asparagus.
If anyone knows where to buy organic cinnamon in bulk, please send along the recommendation. Thanks!"
06/04/2009: T from Maryland, USA replies: "Mountain Rose Herbs sells bulk organic cinnamon. Love that site/company even though the shipping cost is painful! Hopefully your heels soon won't be ;) Looking forward to your update on the MBP!"
EC: Thanks for the suggestion T! I will check them out for the cinnamon.
Apparently asparagus isn't as high in pesticides as other vegetables... here's a link to a website called Shopper's Guide to Pesticide that someone recommended recently on Earth Clinic Planet: http://www.foodnews.org/fulllist.php
Deirdre
06/05/2009: PR from Houston, Texas replies: "Hi Deirdre, You are welcome and I am glad you are trying the Beet Protocol. Your are right it doesn't taste bad and will bring great results. As Robert would say removing the toxins from our body will help our bodies to stay youthful, and the beet protocol does a great job of this. It is great you created a new page for the Mini Beet Protocol and it will be interesting to see the post from others using the protocol when it catches on.
I like listening to Robert's teachings online as he share some real helpful jewels that I haven't learned anywhere else. Robert has a great way of looking at the over picture of how nutrients work in and with the body. Especially being careful to keep balance in your body when using herbs and nutrients. I am looking forward to your future postings as you progress with Mini Beet Protocol."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 06/18/2009: Deirdre from Earth Clinic replies: "Mini Beet Protocol follow up. I faithfully followed Robert's directions for the MBP for exactly a week, drinking 1/4 cup beet and 1/4 cup asparagus juice. One of those days I got a headache shortly after consuming the juice, but other than that, no side effects.Then, ha ha, I foolishly decided to do a significant increase in the amount of beet juice, even though it was advised against on Robert's website. I was very excited to get on with my detox, you see! On day 8, last Friday to be exact, I drank 3/4 beet and 3/4 cup asparagus. Oh oh oh... The next 20 minutes were terrible! And then the side effects in the ensuing 48 hour were rough! I had to hang near the sink right after drinking the beet juice because of severe, horrendous nausea. I gobbled down 2 apples and 1 carrot, which did help. Finally the nausea passed. I then had severe brain fog for the next 2 days. I couldn't think straight and had a difficult time finding words to communicate. I am not kidding!
Mind blowing side effects - you are not kidding, Robert!!! Uggh. There is NO WAY I could do the Major Beet Protocol of 3 cups of beet juice in one day!! Sad to say, I haven't been able to bring myself to drink more beet juice at the moment. I am instead happily drinking these yummy green smoothies (greens in the blender with various fruits).
So for anyone considerig the mini beet protocol... go very very slowly and up the beet juice in small increments. Otherwise, suffer the consequences like me, the foolish one."
06/21/2009: Theo from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada replies: "Hi Deirdre,
I was a little saddened to read your message about having stopped the Mini-Beet Protocol (MBP). Any chance you are going to try this again? One of the things I love most about EarthClinic is the empirical evidence. Unlike many other websites filled with noise, EarthClinic's members experiment with folk remedies/claims and report the results. This is why EarthClinic is so helpful.
With that said, MBP is making some pretty big curative claims here. I have read Robert's website and listened to all 4 hours of audio posted. To me, the following items stuck out as rather unbelievable:
- Crow's Feet
- Love Handles & Cellulite
- Gray Hair
- Hair Loss (Listen to the 2008-07-12 audio at the 01:20 mark. Apparently carrot's and MPB will guarantee no hair loss.)"
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[YEA] 11/15/2009: Sophie from Portland, Oregon writes: "We started MBP and feel remarkably well. Just a side note* we go to our local east indian store and buy the REAL cinnamon sticks from Ceylon, India and grind it because as most of you know the cinnamon at the local grocery in not genuine cinnamon and lacks the required medicinal qualities. We followed most of Robert's instructions, although we increased the dose every five days and I'm not suggesting that others do this. We felt it was safe for us to do, because we've been vegetarians( no meat or fish)for over twenty years, we have a healthy diet, no caffeine, no smoking. Red wine only during the holidays and we eat 75-80% percent raw foods, and we do yoga. In addition to that we have regular colonics and been on a low calorie diet for a long time to slow down aging and decrease illness... we rarely get ill. The reason we adhere to this practice is because when I was in college I was interested in ayurvedic & chinese medicine. So we integrated some of these practices into our life early on.
We started MBP because I suffered an accident at the doctors office that required plastic surgery! Following, that episode I had a strange rash on my neck and some type of strange bumps on face. I thought perhaps it was an hormonal imbalance, the western medical model doctor suggested birth control pills. I declined. After some research, we decided to try MBP six days a week. After one month I've observed the following: my husband's wrinkle's and crow's feet have decreased dramastically; his hair appears darker to me. his eyes look brighter and whiter. For me my acne and rash are gone; my liver spots are fading; my skin is brighter; my eyes are white and bright; the scar tissues and the swelling from my facial surgery both have decreased rapidly because I can finally see the definition. My surgeon mentioned that following surgery for all the swelling to subside, it might take well over a year, but I'm now seeing a dramatic and rapid healing. It is clearly evident that my face is no longer swollen and is becoming clearly defined! I believe MBP expediated the healing process and decreased scar tissue and the swelling. I will report more information at the two month mark."
12/25/2009: Sophie from Pdx, Oregon replies: "We are now at the two month mark on mini beet program.The first month was easy, we just bought two twenty pound bags of beets and asparagas and began juicing away. The second month took some serious "psyche yourself into it talks." It has been challenging for me in the since that at the two month mark, I now cannot tolerate the smell of the juice and I cannot tolerate the cinnamon. It is unclear if it is an instinctive response, due to this new, powerful and perhaps. overwhelming detoxifying process that the body is undergoing or if it is simply an aversion to the unpleasant smell. I should note that I am hypersensitive. Here are a few observations at the two month mark : a noted decrease in appetite. Robert Von has noted that that MBP is supposed to be a supplemental drink. We have found that many times we will do the MBP during the lunch hour and skip dinner and/or have a small snack around the dinner hour. If we do MBP during the dinner hour then we just skip dinner or skip breakfast the next day. Some days I will have only one meal with a snack. When I snack I try to eat half of an apple to help cleanse my bloodstream, and assist in the detoxifying process. While on MBP I have suffered from one headache and that was following a holiday party I attended where I ate sugar, white flour and dairy. For the headache, I drank a glass of water, apple cider vinegar with a little bit of baking soda mixed and my headache went away. Following are the noted changes: we are both slim, although we both havelost some weight which is fine. We are sleeping better, my acne problem has vanished (I also washing and rinsing my face with baking soda follwed by splashing apple cider vinegar on my face in a hot shower so that it will penetrate deep down into my pores and I just allow the ACV to air dry on my face) both of our faces are radiating good health. We have also increased are flax seed oil to 2-3 tablespoons a day since we reside where it is fairly cold. Our skin feel silky soft and clear. 95% of my liver spots have faded away and few subborn ones that remain . I am now applying castor oil and a green biotanical gel made from mushrooms which is amazing to eliminate the remaining spots. We both look 10 years younger. My hair stop falling out by the clumps. Our meditation and yoga practice are much better. My sense is that you can feel the changes happening on a deep level within the body, although it might be hard to describe celluar level changes that are happening even if your aware of it.We did feel some lower back pain maybe for 2-3 days, but nothing major. We were sure to take the supplements that Robert recommends to avoid getting kidney stones. I think it is wise to listen to Robert Vons radio interviews and reading his MBP information before beginning this process."
03/14/2010: Shakti from Toronto, Canada replies: "Hello, I contracted lyme almost 3 years ago. I was not given sufficient antbiotics and developed many further problems in the ensuing years despite additional antibiotics, including heart, eye, weight problems with great fatigue and pain. I have had several bouts with mycoplasma, candida, and ensuing arthritis for years . I healed these issues with a 45 day Master cleanse fast. I have cured the pain and complications of lyme with juice fasting ,also for 45 days . During his time I had a powerful beet detox experience. I made a VERY strong beet heavy juice, and after drinking it I broke out in a horrid red rash all over my chest , under breasts , and up to my neck . I used castor oil packs, bentonite clay and oatmeal, and it subsided after 10 days entirely. I also got better after the 45 days. I had been in unbearable pain and had CFS for 3 months and could not get home to juice and fast, as I collapsed in another city after a period of stress that brought out the lyme.After feasting on champagnes, fine wines and excellent foods at Xmas this year I gained weight, was agin arthritic, and got ill. I returned home, and have been juicing, using beets often, with greens and apples and carrots . All good, am better, have weight loss, etc . But see wrinkles and lax skin like never before. I am aging too fast now. Saturn is on its' 2nd return now, and I knew that would be an issue, but I am vain, and enjoy my beauty ... I have been a vegetarian, and conscious of foods and supplements since 15 when I started yoga ... and look about 18 years younger than my age. I wish to continue to do so.
My questions are ... did your husband's crow's feet disappear? and what kind of surgery did you undergo ? I am considering a necklift , and also a small lower face lift , and eyes to be done - soon . Is there much swelling ? How long does it take to look and feel normal ?
Did the extreme beet protocol cause an appreciable change in wrinkles and skin tightness and youthfulness , and collagen renewal Thank you,
love and light ,
Shakti"
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