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| CYSTS | ||||||||
| DECOLORIZED IODINE | ||||||||
| DEWORMER | ||||||||
| DIARRHEA | ||||||||
| DOSAGE | ||||||||
| ENLARGED, CYSTIC THYROID | ||||||||
| EXCESSIVE SULPHUR | ||||||||
| EXCESSIVE SWEATING | ||||||||
| FIBROCYSTIC BREAST DISEASE | ||||||||
| FOOD POISONING | ||||||||
| GENERAL FEEDBACK | ||||||||
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Iodine Cures
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CYSTS
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[YEA] 09/12/2010: Tito from Taranto, Italy writes: "I could not bear seeing that ugly epidermoid cyst on my shoulder, so I applied to it a tincture of iodine for six months, and a nice day the cyst ruptured (apologies for my english) and now it is disappeared."
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DECOLORIZED IODINE
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[QUESTION] 05/13/2010: Pat from Athens, Al, Usa writes: "I was able to find "decolorized iodine" at the pharmacy yesterday but after reading the ingredients (listed below) I'm not sure if this is the right stuff or not. PLEASE someone respond and don't pass over this one as so many psts do get past over - I desperately want to try iodine for thyroid condition as well as alopecia but am wanting to make sure I've got the right stuff so I don't do more harm than good. Here's what it says on the bottle:
"Iodides Tincture - Decolorized Iodine"
Active Ingredients:
Alcohol 45%, denatured with ammonia,
Amomonium an Potassium Iodides..........Antiseptic
Inactive Ingredients:
Purified Water
Other Information - will stain skin and clothing (although I have not found this true on the skin, but haven't tried it on fabric - it does appear to be clear)
This is a 2oz. bottle and I paid $4.12 US
Is this for topical use only or can this also be used internally? I wanted to use it for both.
Also, there is like a little stick thing in the cap - not a dropper, so when "drops" are mentioned how are these "drops" being measured - drops off the stick itself or from some type of eye dropper - and if an eye dropper is used how do you get a uniform size "drop"?
Please someone answer I'm totally dumbfounded on what to do next. Oh yeah, can this also be used for water purification?
Thanks in advance for your help."
[WARNING!] 05/13/2010: T from Maryland, Usa replies: "Definitely DO NOT ingest that type of iodine. It is for external use only.
You said: "I desperately want to try iodine for thyroid condition as well as alopecia".
The mention of alopecia raises a red flag for autoimmune problems, and therefore I would research further before taking iodine. In this article, Dr. Kharrazian specifically warns against iodine for those with Hashimoto's, which is an autoimmune form of thyroid disease:
http://drknews.com/why-i-dont-give-iodine-to-my-hashimotos-patients/
I had stopped taking the occasional drop of iodine (ingestible kind, not the kind you have) when I read his book, but last week I put a drop in my water as I felt like a cold might be wanting to come on. From the weekend I have been suffering a Hashi's flareup. Truly horrible to endure that again. I can't guarantee it was the iodine kicking it off, but I do wonder. I may try it again as a test in future.
As you have alopecia, I would certainly get tested for antibodies, and do a lot more research, before considering taking iodine. I fully believe in the benefits of iodine, but like all things, supplementing it is not for everyone."
05/14/2010: Pat from Athens, Al, Usa replies: "Thank you for the article. I don't think I want to mess with taking iodine internally! I do wonder however if painting for hair loss would help or hurt? Some of the testimonials here on EC say that iodine has caused alopecia victims to regain their hair. The article didn't mention anything about topical application. Thanks - I guess I need to do more research."
[YEA] 03/05/2011: Eugene from Atlanta, Ga replies: "I did read Kharrazian's book and while it has a lot of interesting info I don't necessarily agree with his Iodine/Iodide therapy. I'm more of a Dr. Abraham/Dr. Brownstein person.
optimox.com/pics/Iodine/opt_Research_I.shtml
My GF has Hashi's and a goiter and with the help of Iodine (starting with a 1/2 of Iodarol pill and going to 50mg) her goiter went away first time in over 10 years and she is feeling much much better."
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DEWORMER
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[YEA] 01/14/2006: Dianna from Houston, AR writes: "I have wormed my dogs and cats successfully for twenty-seven years with iodine. Its slower than commercial wormers but safer and with less side effects. I no longer use it only because I found another natural wormer that's even better."
Replies[WARNING!] 02/11/2006: Jeannie from Austin TX replies: "I recently read (in Mother Earth News Archives, 1971) that cats are highly susceptible to iodine poisoning. I think there are safer alternatives to using iodine on/in a cat."
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DIARRHEA
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[YEA] 12/13/2007: Anna from Beijing, CN writes: "I am Bulgarian, living in China at present. As a child, whenever I had diarrhoea, my grandma would give me a few drops of iodine in half a glass of water to drink. It would halt the problem within hours. When my son was 10 months old, he had a severe diarrhoea and after trying a few medicines, the elderly doctor suggested the same remedy for him - 2 drops in some water. The next day he was healthy again. As a school administrator in Beijing I got almost sued by a Finnish mother for administering the remedy to her 8 year old daughter on a trip. There was a bus, full of kids, going to another city 5 hours away and, even though I knew in many countries it was forbidden to take iodine orally, I didn't have a choice. The bus didn't have to stop anywhere on the road and the girl was fine. I have talked with doctors about it and they said that if taken rarely, it's not doing harm. In Bulgaria generations have been treated in this way and I never travel (especially to another country) without my little black bottle. For chool children the dose is 4-5 drops in water and for adults - 5 to 8. Sometimes adults need to repeat on the next day, if the problem persists."
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DOSAGE
11/12/2011: Terri from Fort Myers, Florida writes: "What are safe dosages for lugol's 2% iodine solution, and suggestions for problems ranging from mild allergies to acid reflux, diabetes, hypothyroidism, systemic candida?"
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09/29/2011: Barb from Ingersoll, Ontario writes: "I have just purchased a bottle of Lugol's solution, 5 percent, however there was not a dropper in the bottle. How do I know what is a proper size drop for dosage?"
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ENLARGED, CYSTIC THYROID
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[YEA] 04/15/2010: Andrea from Winchester, Kentucky writes: "I have been using a colorless kelp iodine for several months for an enlarged and cystic thyroid. My blood tests for thyroid indicated a low level of the hormone. I used chemical replacement for a few months and felt much better, but the thyroid was still enlarged. I used 3 drops, twice a day as recomended on the bottle. The swelling stopped. I stopped taking the chemical prescription. My blood tests normal. The thyroid is still very slightly enlarged, but doesn't bother me any more."
Replies10/20/2010: Lisa from St. Louis, Mo replies: "Can anyone tell me how much iodine I should be taking? It's mainly because of dry hair, dry skin, extreme tiredness, etc. I can't find dosage info anywhere. I have Lugols iodine."
10/24/2010: Catherinecheshire from St. Regis, Quebec replies: "The Lugols you can buy in the US is the weaker stuff so take ten drops a day for three months to get your iodine levels up then drop down to five drops a day as a maintenence dose. It took me about four hours of searching to find this info online. Also, there was info on using it for cold, flu, congestion, and bladder infections but these were higher doses and if you have too much in your system its gets washed out and causes you no side effects. My mom gave my grandmother (who is 90) about 20 or more drops and it cured her of congestion and the cough that goes with it."
04/28/2011: Franjy from Perth, Wa Australia replies: "The one subject that doesn't come up in the whole iodine subject is the fluoride in our water displaces iodine in the body. What all of us have to do is stop using fluoridated water for bathing, cooking, dishwashing, and drinking. I was diagnosed as hyperthyroid. After 2 months of no meds and taking iodine with distilled water I have absolutely no hyperthyroid symptoms."
10/04/2011: Jessica from Chicago, Il replies: "YES I have to agree with the Iodine. I take 4 dropper fulls and literally in 48 hrs my thyroid/goiter (not noticible, but I can feel it when I swallow) has literally shrunk so well I can't feel it when I swallow anymore! I love IODINE!"
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EXCESSIVE SULPHUR
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[YEA] 12/27/2009: Janette from Sydney, Australia writes: "Iodine balances sulphur overload
I took Alprim a well-known drug for urinary tract infection which occurred due to food poisoning, my body unbalanced with the sulphur content of this drug, giving me stinging eyes, headache, over active thyroid and pains in my body....too much acid forming.
I took a teaspoon of organic kelp iodine, within 5 minutes the pains in my body near my neck and shoulder went, the heaviness left my head, it felt like the fluid in the brain begin to flow (odd but yes), my eyes slowly began to loose the sting although it took a day.
I have heard Iodine is great for getting rid of sulphur burps as well.
Anyone had this type of experience?"
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EXCESSIVE SWEATING
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[YEA] 08/09/2010: Rachel from Charleston, Sc writes: "I started using iodine/iodide and my hyperhydrosis disappeared. I no longer suffer from excessive sweating on my hands and feet and I no longer have cold extremities."
Replies08/10/2010: Drpeprchick from Ontario, Canada replies: "How are you taking the iodine, internal or external? Thanks"
08/10/2010: Saba from Mentor, Oh replies: "To Rachel from Charleston, Sc: All I can say is WOW! I have suffered from excessive sweating on my palms and feet ever since I was a little girl. Please, Please could you tell us how you used it, how often and for how long? Thank you. Saba."
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FIBROCYSTIC BREAST DISEASE
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[YEA] 05/26/2008: Barbara from Baton Rouge, LA writes: "I had problems with Fibroystic Breast Disease and the doctor put me on 3 drops of Iodine in a glass of orange juice each day plus a pregestrone cream for the breasts...this works...no more problems."
Replies[WARNING!] 05/27/2008: Linda K. from Palm Desert, CA replies: "It should be clarified that an iodine that is ingested be safe for internal consumption. NOT to be ingested is the iodine that is used for treatment of cuts, etc. on the skin. IOSOL IODINE is safe for internal use."
09/24/2010: Wjbaumchen from Lennon, Michigan replies: "Lot of bad information on what you can ingest. Iodine that is non-radioactive and in it's elemental form is safe to ingest. That is basically two iodine atoms bound together kind of like O2 is two oxygen atoms bound together. Iodide is just some form of iodine that has something else bound to it like potassium iodide their is one iodine atom and one potassium atom bound to each other. You can turn any Iodide back into elemental iodine by hitting it with a strong acid then an oxidizer. Lugols contains both forms of iodine for best absorption at a rate of 2x's as much Iodide as iodine that is the magic ratio of Lugols. As to the warning about Iodine not everyone with thyroid disease responds the same and we know that iodine works best when two or more forms of it are presented to the body at the same time. So ideally it is best to try it first. No decision should be made based on fear must have data to make a decision. You can buy potassium Iodide about 150grams of 99.9% lab grade or USP grade for about $27 so not expensive at all from that you can make Lugols by turning some of it into elemental iodine and leaving some it as is. If you live outside of the USA it is easy to by Iodine Crystals and Potassium Iodide and make you own dirt cheap in large amounts. If you live in the USA Iodine Crystals are now controlled and you have to register with the DEA to order or import it. Because less then 1% of the population uses it to make illegal drugs we all have to suffer. Like I said it is not hard to convert Iodide to Iodine but it is stupid to have to do this. Tinkture of Iodine has elemental pure Iodine at 2% and has Sodium Iodide at 2.4% and 47% Alcohol the rest is water. It is safe to use orally and topicaly but the sodium iodide is not the best form to use because most people have too much sodium any ways and really need to get more potassium in their body. Little rhyme from a few hundred years ago for doctors. " If you do not know the where or why? Then prescribe the "K and I"! " k is used on the periodic table to represent Potassium and I is for Iodine...."
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[YEA] 11/24/2006: Tracie from Willow, AK writes: "I'm in the process of experimenting with iodine to cure fibrocystic breast disease. I've had cysts since I was 13 and am now a menopausal 48 yr. old. (Can't even dicipher a self-breast exam since I'm so lumpy) I started with some kelp tablets and increased all the way to 8 per day. At that point the quantity of lumps was lessened but then a couple of them enlarged and were really sore. I then changed over to Iodonol tablets (iodine/iodide) and now the cysts are getting smaller and for the first time since I can remember, my breasts are beginning to feel like they are supposed to. My hot flashes have lessened also, which is curious and I wonder if the iodine is the reason."
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[YEA] 01/11/2006: Jean from London, England writes: "I can confirm that iodine in the form of kelp is a cure for fibroystic breast disease. I have been taking it for about 10 years and it works so well that if I don't take it for a few days, say if I run out of tablets or forget to take them on holiday, my symptoms return within days. I have read that taking iodine can be dangerous if you have thyroid problems, but I don't see how the dose I take (1 tablet a day or 150mg) can be a problem. The side effects caused by conventional medicine e.g. diuretics, can be much worse, so I was determined to find a natural remedy. I think this use of iodine/kelp should be more widely known, but there seems to be a curious silence about it. Maybe it is too cheap and readily available as you suggest in your article! Keep up the good work."
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FOOD POISONING
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[YEA] 11/16/2008: Pamela from Houston, Texas writes: "I had a chronic case of salmonella food posioning. I read in Dr. Hulda Clarks book 6 drops of Lugol's iodine 4 times a day would get rid of the salmonella. I forgot how long she said to take it. I usually take the iodine for a couple of days after I feel better. Lugol for me works every time I pick up any salmonella bacteria from eating out."
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[YEA] 04/18/2008: Jan from Buffalo, NY writes: "I travel extensively and carry a small HDPE bottle of Lugol's for the inevitable food poisoning that occurs in restaurant food. When I get a case of it, I take 15 drops of Lugol's in water and it takes less than 15 minutes to stop the cramps. Dr. Hulda Clark does recommend Lugol's Iodine. I buy my Lugol's in pint bottles at the local pharmacy. I tell the pharmacist that I use it for staining tissue slides for microscopy. It works every time."
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[YEA] 12/15/2007: Jamie from Fairmont, Minnesota writes: "Hello you WONDERFUL people! Thanks you SO much for this resource! I was in the middle of my third serious bout with salmonella in a year and feeling little relief from the antibiotics after 8 days. After reading a book by Dr. Hulda Clark I am convinced that I was picking up Salmonella from milk products. Hulda says that Lugol's kills vicious stomach bacteria including salmonella so I got online looking for it when I found this site. I read through all of the comments and went looking for the iodine. Someone said I could get it at walmart so I tried. The Pharmacist had no clue about iodine deficiency and wouldn't give me the iodine he had ordered for me. How disgusting and irresponsible! I ordered the book by Dr. Brownstein Iodine: Why You Need It and Why You Can't Live Without It along with a 2 oz. bottle of lugol's solution from amazon.com. I was very discouraged by the fact that there was no overnight shipping option available on the site. A day or two after ordering I emailed them expressing my discouragement and they responded with a toll free number that could be used to get overnight shipping. My Lugol's arrived a day earlier than expected and I tested for allergy on my foot. I knew I wasn't allergic since I have had iodized salt for ever, and I had no irritation from the iodine on my foot. So I began the dose recommended by Hulda for salmonella which is 6 drops in a half cup of juice after meals and at bed time. After reading the book by Dr. Brownstein and looking at the Optimox site I knew that 6 drops 4 times a day is equivalent to 150mg of iodine a day. The relief from the Salmonella began nearly immediately but was nearly complete after a day of the scheduled dose. I had no symptoms of taking too much iodine, so I continued to the third day at that dose (as recommended for treating Salmonella in Hulda's book). Then I cut back to 6 drops 3 times a day to counter my newly recognized iodine deficiency. Just so you know, the Salmonella are DEAD!!! And I feel ALIVE!!!
5 years ago I should have been diagnosed with fibrocystic breast disease but was told that my "lumpy bumpy" breasts needed vitamin E. I didn't take it seriously as I wasn't diagnosed with anything. I had just had my first child. Over the last 6 months I have had pain in my breasts not just before a period but at intervals during the month that wouldn't even allow me to hug my (now I have 3) children. I had no idea until reading this site and the information from Dr. Brownstein that I had fibrocystic breast disease, the precursor for breast cancer (which is so prevalent in this area that it should be a CRIME that people are not handed iodine by the government in giant sized rations!) The great lakes basin is the worst in the WORLD for iodine deficiency--we are the reason salt is iodized--only well enough to fend off goiter and mental retardation which were becoming a problem in the early 1900's in this area! The actual need for iodine by your body is 13.5mg a day and that's after fixing a deficiency. And that number does not take into account the other factors we are exposed to. (Halogens which replace iodine in the body everywhere around us--chlorine, bromine, fluorine--in bread, in toothpaste, in water) THIS IS EPIDEMIC!
Two days into my salmonella killing spree with iodine, I began my menstrual period without cramps. I have had such terrible cramps from my period that I have a stock pile of ibuprofen. (which makes your stomach bleed and hurts your liver) but what are we to do? IODINE! I have been on Iodine for 4 days now and each morning I wake up with cramps but almost as soon as I take my 6 drops of lugol's my cramps are GONE! It's like the cramps are there because my ovaries are begging me for much needed iodine to clean me out. I am so thrilled about this! By the way--my breast pain has diminished to almost none, and they feel like 16 year old breasts. No kidding. My energy level has sky rocketed and I am losing weight. (I should mention that I am taking the iodine with a liquid B complex supplement because Dr. Brownstein says it is possible to get heart palpitations and/or symptoms of iodine allergy if you are deficient in vitamin b2 and b3 since they are needed to transport iodine throughout your body. I can feel my metabolism normalizing--it feels GREAT!
For a long time I have wondered why my ears hurt--I thought maybe I was taking an autotoxic (something toxic to your ears) drug--I wasn't taking any drugs other than ibuprofen--so I wasn't convinced, but I was becoming afraid that I would eventually lose my hearing. I have also become slower in the brain over the last few years. I attributed it to the mercury in my fillings after reading Dr. Clarks book--but having seen the symptoms of iodine deficiency including hearing loss and cretinism I now believe I am severely deficient in iodine and I am so excited to not get any worse. I am getting better!"
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GENERAL FEEDBACK
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12/14/2011: Asa from Kirksville, Mo writes: "Hi, I am wondering what you can tell me about ingesting Lugol's iodine. What is the difference between this and the Iodine tincture at the store with the skull and bones on it warning us of poison? I see so many positive reviews on Lugol's iodine, and as a person who suffers with hypothyroidism, I am curious to know this.
Here is a sample website that severely frowns on ingesting iodine: http://healthwyze.org/index.php/ingesting-iodine.html.
Anything you can tell me is appreciated, ~aj"
Replies12/14/2011: Jen from Bozeman, Mt, Us replies: "Firstly the word synthetic is being used as a scare tactic on this website. The actual meaning of synthetic is: (Taken from Wikipedia)-Synthesis, the combination of two or more parts, whether by design or by natural processes. Furthermore, it may imply being prepared or made artificially, in contrast to naturally.
The former meaning is the actual one that should be applied to lugol's iodine. There is 5% iodine (naturally occuring element) and 10% potassium iodine (two naturally occuring elements) as well as H2O (also two naturally occuring elements). The website is using synthetic to scare people into thinking its like synthetic hormones or something. When you put two or more elements together it can be called a synthetic as it was not naturally occuring.
Lugol's is different than the iodine you find in the store as it does not contain chemicals like alcohol and stabilizers that the government insists companies put in the bottles in order to keep us from consuming it. Not because it's bad for us but because if we are healthy then the health industry suffers. But that's a whole other basket of trouble so I won't go into the why's.
If you are hypothyroid you should be careful. Make sure your thyroid levels are normal first. If you start it when hypo you may make it worse. But I have spoken to some hypo's who have taken it and gotten better to the point where they could decrease thier meds drastically. Remember to take magnesium, Vit C, and Selenium at the same time. Otherwise you can cause more problems than you will help."
12/14/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Asa, an excellent book I read is from David Brownstein, "Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without it".He had many patients he treated with lugols. Not only the thyroid needs iodine but the uterus, and the breasts. Iodine deficiency also causes fibrous breasts and most women who have breast cancer according to the book are iodine deficient. Having hypothyroidism means your body is very deficient.
Iodine also removes heavy metals from the body and flouride and bromide.
A really excellent book, I recommend everyone read it.
I don't think you can make your condition worse by taking Lugols because your body needs it, is craving it. Anyway read the book and make your own decision."
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11/26/2011: Simeon from Bronx, New York, Usa writes: "Would decoloration of tincture iodine with either desoluble vitamin C, lime or lemon juice reduce the strenghth or potency of iodine and its taste? Could anybody tell me the measurement for the decoloration?
Best regards."
Replies11/26/2011: Lisa from Rabat, Morocco replies: "Tincture of iodine is not to be taken internally, if that is what you are saying. I prefer to use Iodoral tablets so there is no taste, though they are a little more expensive."
11/26/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "You shouldn't take vitamin c and iodine at the same time. I add my iodine to milk (can't taste it), or to my chlorophyll solution."
12/01/2011: Francisca from Zug, Zug, Switzerland replies: "Debbie, do you mean not take Vitamin C and iodine at the same time or not to take one at all if you are taking the other?"
12/01/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Hi Francisca, I read that you should take them but not at the same time... an hour or two apart should be okay."
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11/23/2011: Teresa from Hamilton Ontario, On writes: "Hi, I am Teresa. Today I bought marine Lugol's solution. This 10 mil. bottle contains: Iodide 11.835% De-ionized Water, potassium iodide, Iodine.
I don't know is this solution safe for internal use? I would be happy to hear any advice. I Love Earth Clinic. Many, many greeting for everyone. Teresa"
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11/01/2011: Bebe from Washington, Dc, United States writes: "Ted, I was trying to buy manganese sulfate and Lugol's Iodine from amazon.com but there are so many to choose and some of Lugol's iodine solution are with 2% and some with 5% so, I am confused which one to choose. In addition, would you please explain how much and for how long to take them because you said to take it for 4 days on and 4 days off does it mean that we only take it one time? I also want to ask everyone including Ted whenever mentioning to take something at least once in each email please, mention how much and for how long to take it as well as the brand of the product you have taken. That eliminates the emails that a lot of people are sending to ask the same question, it doesn't take long to mention it once in every email we send because sometimes we don't see the previous email that was sent with the information. Thank you everyone."
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09/20/2011: Susan from New York writes: "Dear Bill from San Fernando,
I have been taking iodine per your postings. 2 Drops of 2% every night in half glass of water. What is different between Lugols and Nascent Iodine, do you have to take 2 days off or can you take it everyday?
Thanks Bill"
Replies09/21/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Susan... Lugol's has been shown through research to alleviate and correct hypothyroid in dosages between 12.5 mgs and 50 mgs (2 and 8 drops 5% Lugols respectively). If you use the 12.5mg dose, it will take a year before full body iodine sufficiency is attained. If you take the 50 mg dose -- full body iodine sufficiency will be attained in about 3 months. I am not talking just about thyroid sufficiency here -- I'm talking about the whole body's need for iodine.See this link:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james37.htm
Nascent iodine, to keep it simple, is the electrochemical form of elemental iodine and is the same as Atomidine -- what Edgar Cayce recommended. Certain people have iodine sensitivities and lugols iodine can have harsh effects on the stomach in certain people due to the iodine content. But Nascent Iodine tends to be much kinder and is also a highly bioavailable and tasteless form of iodine/iodide solution. It is, however, more expensive.
See this link for dosages and use of Nascent Iodine:
http://iodine.imva.info/index.php/iodine-dosages/
Also it would be advisable to take Magnesium Gluconate(250 mgs twice a day), Vitamin C(1000 mgs 3 times a day), Selenium(200 mcg twice a day) and zinc(25-50 mgs once a week).
The Selenium and Magnesium aid in certain thyroid enzyme processes to convert and store the iodine in the thyroid and to convert the T4 to the more active T3 thyroid hormone form respectively. Vitamin C has been proven to improve and increase iodine/iodide transport and absorbtion in both the intestines and into the cells and organs. These absorbtion problems are usually caused by excess bromine in the body which is chelated and removed by the Vit C. Zinc helps to improve the immune system and also helps to increase the rate and efficiency of metabolism in the body.
See this link for the most current and up to date research on iodine supplemetation by the Iodine Project:
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/opt_Research_I.shtml
The need for daily Iodine:
09/21/2011: Sasha from Chicago, Il replies: "Bill, If I stop taking iodized salt, what si the right amount to takr of Lugols? 3 drops a day as the bottle says? I don't want any complication of taking too much and getting the thyroid overactive. I think a friend did that and got anxious and racing heart. But from what I'm reading here, it seems 2 drops would take a year then I don't have much to worry about? What are the symptoms of too much and how can one alleviate them? Any antidote? Also does painting on the foot help much to get it into the body? I will consider this nascent if Lugol's uspets the stomach too much. Thank you!"
09/22/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Sasha... Up until the Second WW years, and for over a hundred years before this period, lugols iodine was used for a huge number of chronic problems and diseases. Doses of 300 mgs - 2000 mgs or about 50 drops to 300 drops were administered by doctors on a daily basis for chronic forms of emphysema, asthma and bronchitis (iodine has a tendency to accumulate in both the lungs and breasts and its effect is highly protective). Iodine is well known to be anti-pathogenic, anti-mutagenic and anti-cancer as well. And larger dose lugols was a successful treatment because, amongst all its other wonderful healing properties, iodine acts as a safe antihistamine, germ killer, blood purifier etc etc.I took about 16 drops of lugols (100 mgs) per day for a while just to see what effect this would have on me. It had very little effect on me and so I concluded that because of its safe and long history of use in larger dosages by the medical profession in the past, those that do have problems with iodine now must have other problems with excreting the iodine from the body. This problem is not caused by the iodine -- this is because of other medical problems within that individual.
Foot painting with iodine would probably be useful just to maintain the small thyroid iodine maintenance levels in a fairly healthy body, but would not be sufficient to satisfy the whole body's need for iodine/iodide or enough to help cure such as hypothyroid conditions. The body also needs approximately a 100 times more iodine than the thyroid does -- so you cannot guarantee that even small amounts such as 2 drops will ALL go to the thyroid -- because the body, excluding the thyroid's requirement, needs iodine too in much larger amounts. This is why you must take larger amounts of lugols to get quicker and more satisfactory results.
The absorbtion of iodine by foot-painting, from the research, seems to be very small -- only about 12% of the iodine applied to the skin is ever absorbed into the body. Here is the article and research: http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl2a.htm"
09/22/2011: Jc from Boston, Ma replies: "Sasha,I know this is not your question but I would replace the iodized table salt with unrefined Sea Salt. Refined salt has lost the other trace minerals and has added anti caking agents that you do not want to take, like Aluminum. Get unrefined sea salt like Celtic or unrefined mined salt Like Real Salt. The Iodine content is low in iodized salt and for the reasons I stated is not a good idea. Get your iodine from kelp (or other sea weed), seafood or supplements like Lugols. You can buy ground and dried sea weed and sprinkle it on food like salt. It has a salty flavor but will not impact BP as much and is a food source of iodine. Available in most health food stores.
As another option, if your stomach is an issue, you can take Lugols sublingually. Place some under your tongue and hold it for a few minutes. I don't know how much you will absorbed but it will be better than 12% as reported in foot painting."
09/22/2011: Susan from Ny replies: "Dear Bill from San Fernando,How much pumkin seeds I have to eat in order to get 25-50 mgs in my body ? You recommend taking zinc once a week along with the iodine. Zinc(25-50 mgs once a week)."
09/22/2011: Sasha from Chicago, Illinois replies: "This is super info everyone! I'm going to try the iodine more fearlessly within the constraints of what is recommended here. I am going to try to get more seaweed into my diet. I'll look for some made in US East coast, not sure how all the radiation in Japan will affect things. I bought unrefined sea salt from a coop but it was pure white. I don't think it was truly unrefined but so tricky these days with ignorant or plain out false labeling in the states. Thank you Bill and Jc. I was told there was a link of Bill's typical supplement day, I am going to search through and find that here."
09/23/2011: Sasha from Chicago, Il replies: "Does anyone know the link for Bill's routine use of supplements? I remember seeing it somewhere here. I found an older one here but I know there was an updated post with chanca. There are so many supplements here and I want to narrow them down but not miss any important ones. If someone can post a link of Bill's updated post on how he uses the supplements, please post it here. I've searched pages and pages but can't find it. Thank you very much!
09/25/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Sasha... My own health routine is quite variable, however I always make sure that I take certain supplements on a regular basis. I tend to use natural more bioavailable ingredients rather than synthetic nutrients, which also tend to be more expensive anyway. And I avoid multi-vitamin tablets because they cannot be gauranteed to be dissolved properly in the intestines and be absorbed into the body, they also contain synthetic nutrients as well as additives and the nutrient amounts contained in the multi-vit pill are usually very inadequate. I therefore regard multi-vits as useless.Everybody has their own emphasis in regard to their own health regimen. My own emphasis is that, unless you eat food that is entirely organic and grown on healthy soils and you can afford to do this, then you must continually defend yourself against the bad effects of chemically processed foods. Therefore, I never stop defending my body from the effects of modern food now. I live in the Philippines and in the semi-provinces which is fairly primitive. Most of my shopping is done at the big primitive markets here. I eat no canned or processed food. But I have seen many Syngenta and Monsanto test farms in my rural area and I am not fooled, so the food where I live cannot be regarded as organic or pure or safe if you like -- therefore I defend against this and continually use a defensive and preventative approach. Most of the European and American retirees here of my age suffer from heart disease, diabetes or liver disease. This tells me a whole lot about their food diets and their bad habits. I therefore conclude that bad nutritional habits are the hardest thing in the world to change because we so love to eat sweet, acid things, we enjoy big steaks and beer etc. People look to convenience as a way out, popping a bucket full of medical pills daily to cure all their problems whilst still continuing their bad habits!! This is so crazy. I see this everywhere in the Philippines.
I always alkalize as per Ted's remedies -- I use the lemon/lime remedy on most days -- and also use the sodium bicarb and water remedy for the blood.
As my nutrient baseline I use dessicated liver tablets every day. It's not perfect but liver contains all the necessary vitamins, amino acids and minerals. William Kelly and Max Gerson used organic raw liver, but there were still problems with parasites in the raw liver.
I also take organic debittered Brewers Yeast for the CoQ10, the selenium, B vitamins etc. I sometimes vary this by eating 2-4 brazil nuts(raw, unsalted) on a daily basis. Brazil nuts also contain Selenium as well as high amounts of other amino acids such as glutamine, tryptopan and cysteine.
All my cooking is done in virgin coconut oil -- very cheap in the Philippines.
I also take fulvic/humic acid in concentrated ascorbate drops for all my mineral needs. 5-10 drops a day. Fulvic acid also removes pesticides and drug poisons from the body. There are many other numerous benefits to fulvic/humic acid as well as described on this site.
Then I addtionally take nutrients that are always lacking in our diets such as iodine as Lugols Iodine(2-4 drops a day at least as maintenance), Magnesium and Vitamin C(as ascorbate -- no calcium -- 3000 mgs a day -- more if ill). I take the magnesium as Mag Chloride or Mag Malate or Mag Citrate(250 mgs 2 X a day). I take the iodine about once every two days now because my iodine levels are now correct.
The above is my nutrient baseline if you like. Most people, as I see it, will need these nutrients because of the drugs, poisons in our own food, water supply and environment and because of nutrients they lack and the rest below is really my own regimen for my own individual needs.
Other nutrients that I take not on a regular basis are Chanca Piedra ("StoneBreaker") and heart vine (tinospora cordifolia) in a combined home-made decoction (taken on a once-a-month basis for a week only) to get rid of excess calcium, removes aches and pains, anti-inflamatory, highly protective of the liver and kidneys, removes gallstones and kidney stones, strongly anti-viral and can cure Hepatitis B in less than a month. I also drink green tea and eat raw cilantro in salads which, as Ted has advised, helps remove heavy metals and I also regularly take 10% Sodium Thiosulfate(8 drops a day in a glass of water) to remove heavy metals and to remove chlorine from my body. I also take Borax in water regularly to remove the fluorine fom my body and as a mycoplasma preventative.
Another alternative liver-protective protocol I sometimes use is Dr Foster's Triple Anti-oxidant Therapy which consists of taking Selenium (200 mcg twice a day), Alpha Lipoic Acid(300 mgs twice a day) and Milk Thistle (1000 mgs twice a day) on a daily basis. This also promotes Glutatione production in the body -- a protective super anti-oxidant -- and is very beneficial to the kidneys, liver and intestines.
As you have probably noticed, I also tend to favour and emphasize protection of the liver, kidneys and intestines in my own regimen in order to help create a healthier body terrain. This helps to purify the blood in order to deliver nutrients and remove waste to and from the cells and organs respectively in the correct way. And by doing this, the immune system, the excretory system, endocrine system, body organs and many other body parameters are also correctly maintained in a healthier state. This therefore makes all my body defenses stronger against illness and pathogens.
I also eat in a particular way. I hesitate to call it a diet -- this infers that one day you will come off the diet. This way of eating is really an elimination diet which is defined elsewhere on earthclinic but is no less important to your health.
All in all I have to admit that my nutrient regimen, apart from my nutrient baseline, is not a rigid thing. It has become intuitive to me, so that my health regimen is governed more by an awareness of how I'm feeling right now rather than that I must religiously take a certain nutrient routinely forever. To be honest about it, I think this is the best approach but I know this can be confusing to people. But there is rarely such thing as the magic bullet cure-all. The real trick is to educate yourself, validate all information assiduously, trust your own judgement and take responsibilty for your own health. And this is really all about educating yourself and taking your own health very seriously. Despite all that has been said about the hopelessness of allopathic medicies -- it helps to remember this one truth -- that the medical profession is not a performance related or results orientated profession. To illustrate, here are a few quotes from doctors:
"I find medicine is the best of all trades because whether you do any good or not you still get your money." (Moliere: "A Physician in Spite of Himself, " 1664)
"If we doctors threw all our medicines into the sea, it would be that much better for our Patients and that much worse for the Fishes." Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes, MD
The above really represents my own regular protocols. But I also keep Lysine, aspirin, methylene blue, hydrogen peroxide etc in emergency reserve in case of sudden illness or further problems."
09/25/2011: Sasha from Chicago, Il replies: "Thank you Bill this is a selfless priceless wealth of info! This in a way can sum up the entire website for general health and would make a great sticky for everyone to find easily. Other than, many of the supplements I need to order (and some from abroad) I hope there is no irradiating of my mail, Thank you!"
09/25/2011: Little Bro from Anon replies: "Yikes Bill and Sasha! Thats a lot of things 2 take in your daily routine!1 Can they all be taken at the same time in the morning or night?
2 You get vitamin D from the sun & omega 3 from fresh fish & u take zinc when sick?
3 What about vitamin A? B? B3? B12? E? Chlorophyll?
4 You don't take molasses bc you're a guy? Molasses helps the woman's problem and grey hair. What helps you keep your hair color? If it isn't cull color maybe consider adding the molasses.
Can't wait to read your answers! Good stuff here! Thanks!!!"
09/25/2011: Wendy from London, U.k. replies: "This is for "Bill from San Fernando, Philippines" - How do we deal if supplements are irradiated?"Read this - "If you want vitamins and nutritional supplements that are free of pesticides and have not been irradiated or fumigated, you must test every incoming batch today, as pesticides, irradiation, and fumigation are all widespread. If the company goes outside the United States to source ingredients, you need to know that up to 70% of raw materials coming into the United States today for vitamins and nutritional supplements are irradiated, creating toxic radiation byproducts. " Are we doomed if we can't grow organic products in good quality soils? -WORRIED"
09/26/2011: Cuz from Ny replies: "Dessicated Liver has A, B's, C, D, E and is said to be superior to Chlorophyll (body can break down the proteins meat source better than plant source). It has lots of minerals and amino acids. Bill takes the DL with meals. Alkalizing is done on an empty stomach. Bill will have to let you know if its ok to mix the other things with the alkalizing.http://www.earthclinic.com/Supplements/desiccated-liver.html"
09/26/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Wendy... The simple answer to your question about dealing with irradiated herbs is that you can't really deal with it because there is now a European-wide law -- Codex Alimentaruis -- that says that all herbal, mineral and vitamin alternative and nutritional health products in Europe are to be managed completely by the the allopathic medical fraternity in terms of their safety, dosages etc. But make no mistake, this is just an excuse for the big pharmaceuticals to wipe-out their main alternative medicine competition in Europe by discreetly adding unhelpful additives, irradiating, thus ruining herb quality and minimizing the RDA to useless and ineffective dosages. America will probably follow suit soon.Here's another trick Codex is playing that you should also be aware of -- I bought some European Magnesium Malate recently all packaged nicely in capsule form. Capsules should contain pure loose powder and when I squeeze tested the capsule -- it was indeed powder -- and each capsule contained 400 mgs of Magnesium and 200 mgs of Malic Acid. However, the capsule itself was very large -- at least 1000 mgs. So what was the other unknown 400 mgs? Then I read the additives on the label: Stearic Acid. This substance is only ever used to help form tablets. So did my capsule also contain 400 mgs of Stearic Acid which I don't want?
The only real alternative you have is to either buy your herbs from sources outside Europe on the internet from gauranteed organic herbal distributors like Raintree Nutrition which might be quite expensive or to simply grow them yourself if you can.
In the Philippines I'm very lucky, I grow and prepare all sorts of herbs in the simplest ways and I know they are natural and organic because I grow them in my own small garden. And I've always found my own herbs to be very effective and useful. I tend not to use dried store bought herbs very much now."
09/26/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Hi Bill, I hope you are well..... Great that you can grow your own herbs, I try to do that as well but I am a beginner! How do you do to dry them? I haven't tried yet because I am afraid of doing it badly and therefore get fungus and other stuff which wouldn't be very good for the health. We are going to move to the countryside in a while and we intend to have a nice vegetable /herb garden there. But even here, countryside surrounded by the developed world we already manage to grow a few things.On a different level here is a question I posted a little while ago but which I don't think you saw: I am now getting into the Anti-Candida diet in order to try to cure my dry eyes and mouth (especially during the night, it is a nightmare and I don't have Sjogren's). You seem to feel that molasses is not a problem but it is sugar..... I would like to take it to try to contain my grey hair but if it is not good in the fight against Candida I won't do it. Right now my priority are my eyes and my mouth! The problem with the diet is that there are so many different opinions. Could you maybe send me a link to your diet advice? I am basing myself in a book called Beat Candida through diet."
09/27/2011: Camanokat from Camano Island, Wa replies: "It's very easy to grow herbs. I have some in the kitchen window and the rest in a little garden patch. It's approaching harvest time for the outdoor herbs. You can dry them by hanging upside down in a cool space or use a food dehydrator."
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[YEA] 07/16/2011: Cmcatri from Sandusky, Oh writes: "I have used iodine to check my thyroid and also clear iodine for toenail fungus. My Naturopath suggested that I use the brown iodine and put a half dollar size circle on my abdomen every morning as long as it disappeared and the first morning it remained visible, stop the treatment. I do this every six months to keep my thyroid healthy."
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04/13/2011: Missm from Sydney, Nsw, Australia writes: "Hi Earthclinic peoples,
I have been reading for hours about the benefits of Lugol's Iodine and feel I could really benefit (lost half my thyroid a year ago). I have been unable to find the product called Lugols Iodine for internal use here in my chemist/pharmacy or health food stores (western suburbs of Sydney, Australia). I can only find it online, however I would really prefer not to purchase online. I have found a product on the shelf in the chemist and I wont give the brand name unless Earthclinic will allow it, but I think it may just be the same as Lugol's. The details on the bottle are as follows:
'Aqueous Iodine Solution APF' -
Contains: Iodine 5% w/v
Potassium Iodide 10% w/v
Pharmaceutical Raw Material
Net 100mL
It also has at the top of the bottle POISON - keep out of reach of children and the usual First Aid information down the right hand side of the bottle.
Could this be the same as Lugol's??? and Could it be taken like Lugols? I know I can skin paint with it but can I put it in water and drink?
Would appreciate any information.
Thanking you and earthclinic"
Replies04/13/2011: Bev from Long Beach, Ca replies: "I get mine from a fish store that sells products for salt water aquariums. Can't find it at a pharmacy."
04/13/2011: Bill from San Fernando, San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Missm... A 5% Aqueous Solution of Iodine(ASI) simply means a solution of iodine and iodide in water and may be regarded as equivalent to 5% Lugols Iodine. The reason for this difference is that ASI is the British naming equivalent or standard for Lugol's Iodine and obviously Australia, being part of the British Commonwelth, has adopted the same naming standards as UK. Don't ask me why the British do this(I'm a Brit) as it leads to alot of confusion. When I bought my own current stock of lugol's iodine in Thailand, this was also called an Aqueous Solution of Iodine. Notably, on my own Thai bottles of aqueous iodine, there is no reference at all to iodine being a poison.As regards putting POISON on a bottle of ASI or Lugol's bought in Australia, I am somewhat amused by this. If you check the Material Safety Data Sheet(MSDS) for Lugol's Iodine then you will see that the oral LD50(Lethal Median Dose) is 14000 mgs/kgm for a rat. The MSDS and LD50(oral, rat) for ordinary table salt is 3000 mgs/kgm. This simply means that ordinary table salt is over 4 times more toxic than lugol's iodine. The MSDS is the biochemist's bible on toxicity and handling for any drug or chemical.
As far as I am concerned, Lugol's Iodine is very body friendly. As an experiment, I took between 50 mgs and 100 mgs of lugols orally(that's 400 to 800 times more than the RDA for iodine) for a couple of weeks just to see what would happen. I had no terrible effects. If you have healthy kidneys then there will not be any ill effects from doing this.
Here is an article on the reasons why people fear iodine -- referred to as Iodophobia in this article. This research article explains why people have so much fear about taking Lugol's iodine orally. It's all about propaganda from the drugs companies because lugol's iodine was "too cheap, useful and successful" and intererred with their drugs sales. So they simply created fear of iodine or iodophobia to eliminate the iodine competition.
Here is the most current research on Lugol's Iodine and correct dosages by The Iodine Project. The current RDA for iodine is about 125 MICROgrams per day. The Iodine Project recommends a maintenance dose of at least 12.5 MILLIgrams per day(2 drops of 5% lugol's iodine) -- which is 100 times more than the RDA. Women generally need higher doses of iodine than men because women's iodine requirements for their breasts and sexual organs are far greater."
04/13/2011: Addy from Flowery Branch, Ga replies: "Hey Bev, Interesting enough that I just read your post and that you found the iodine at an aquarium shop. I was in a pet store last week buying anti algae med and low and behold there was a bottle of iodine sitting there on the shelf! Didn't have time to look at it closely but I did wonder if it was equiv to the Lugol's brand. Is what you have equiv?"
04/14/2011: Missm from Sydney, Nsw, Australia replies: "Bill, Thank you so very very much for your information - you are a legend :)I was going to ask further questions but it seems that you have answered them in your reply.
Thank you Bill and earthclinic, Keep up the great work"
04/14/2011: Bess from Calgary, Alberta, Canada replies: "Hi Bill - The Lugol's Solution (5%) I have here in Canada also has a POISON label, plus the skull and crossbones and what to do for an antidote. When I bought it at London Drugs, the pharmacist told me not to ingest it. Yeah, right... I take two drops daily in juice or water. Thanks for the explanation!"
05/31/2011: Bev from Long Beach, Ca replies: "Hey Andy; Anything marine fish can live in should be a good Iodine."
06/12/2011: Gmaree from Toronto, Nsw Australia replies: "Hi Missm,You should be able to get Lugol's from a compounding chemist, I know there is one up here in the Newcastle area that sells it."
11/07/2011: Kitty from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Hi Bill from San Fernando, Philippines - thanks for all of the information you posted, I loved reading it :)"
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03/16/2011: Julianastargypsy from Shell Knob, Missouri writes: "Dear Ted or Earth Clinic,
I have the Atomidine and would like to know if it is considered a good iodine to take? The makers say it is exactly as Cayce subscribed many times. But some competitors on the net have said never to put it in your body so I quit taking it and haven't been taking anything. Please give me your thought on it for thyroid issues as well as for radiation.
Thank you very much! I appreciate this site to no end and Blessings to All. Juliana"
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02/07/2011: Charlie from Calgary, Alberta Canada writes: "I've read somewhere that Lugols Iodine was found serendipitously to reduce blood glucose levels. Comments please & thanks"
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10/04/2010: Derek from Queensland, Australia writes: "I was on your page http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/iodine.html and am confused about two apparently contradicting items: In the paragraph "Dietary sources" it states that soybeans are a good source of this mineral. In the following paragraph, "FOODS THAT PREVENT THE BODY FROM UTILIZING IODINE" it cites soybeans in this list also. Can you explain why this might be please? For instance, if different types of processing results in different characteristics etc.
Cheers,
Derek"
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