Cure Demodectic and Sarcoptic Mange

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WARNING!!!
DO NOT CONFUSE BORAX WITH BORIC ACID!
DO NOT USE BORIC ACID IN PLACE OF BORAX!

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes, "The best cure for dog mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me."

More Exact Measurements (excerpted from various emails on our Reader Question & Answer Section)

Ted replies, "A definitive recipe is add 1-2 tablespoon of borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. To make a 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1%, roughly get one part of 3% H2O2 plus two parts of water. Then apply them on the dog. Wash with this solution daily, no rinsing. If it doesn't go away, I have found mites, or mange to have a large "beehive" hidden somewhere. In which case, quarantine the dog in a small area that is 100% sterile."


"Approximate measurements are 1 bottle of 500 of 3% H2O2, plus 1000 of the cc of water, plus heaping 3 tablespoons of borax. Stir until most of borax is dissolved. The borax is past the point of saturation here so you will see some borax around. Technically the concentration is around 1.5% H2O2, and this is a bit stronger because by the time we finish with it, the H2O2 gets reacted with other things, and by the time we used it is is usually ends up near a 1% solution anyway."

"You need to get put as much borax until it no longer dissolves in a pail of water and forms a precipitate. This is a saturated solution of borax. Add H2O2 to about 1% concentration to a pail of water. Soak the entire dog, several times. Keep the dog wet for some time. The borax will destroy the eggs from laying under the skin which causes the mange. Get some solution and spray or use this to wipe all floors so the dog will not get re infected. Repeat this every week when bathing. This is not a perfect cure, but it my dog now no longer have mange. My dog was completely cured. You can try other chemicals such as sodium perborate, which is more convenient since you don't need to add the hydrogen peroxide."

"The solution (borax or preferably sodium perborate) is to be applied AFTER the shampooing and rinsing. The sodium perborate should remain on the dog after the bath. You will not rinse this at all. It must remain on the dog throughout the day so that it will act continuously on the bugs."

"However, I do recommend a less toxic form of borax, which is sodium perborate if you can find one. The secret is that borax (plus hydrogen peroxide) will work better then most other remedies I have tried, this includes mineral oil, neem oil (no, neem oil does not kill the mange as effectively as sodium perborate) I have tried it. In my "mange colonies" and commercial brands to kill insects don't work. Hydrogen peroxide DOES NOT KILL mange, I USED IT SIMPLY USED IT AS A CATALYST for ordinary borax in case you cannot obtain sodium perborate. Mineral oils simply prevent oxygen from reaching mange, but that didn't stop it. I have tried naphta, bentonite clays, DMSO, potassium permanganate, light fluid, etc. They all worked temporarily, and it just came back. I must make a strong statement that the formula (borax+h2o2 or sodium perborate) works bests and it is broad spectrum. You can use it to control mange, mites, fleas, and lyme disease (initiated by those crawly insects). I have actually compared side to side with neem oil, mineral oil, apple cider vinegar and others here in Bangkok and this is the most wide spectrum cure I have found. Borax prevents denaturation of DNA/RNA in dogs and I currently use this as life extension for dogs. For example a ribose sugar, deoxyribose sugar, and various sugar that causes accelerated aging in dogs can be slowed down with supplementation of dogs indirectly when you do the borax wash. "

"Prepare peroxide 1% solution, add 2-3 tablespoon of borax to that cup. Stir and wait for a couple of minutes for the borax to dissolve. The formula doesn't require an exact science. The importance is to add enough borax until the solution is no longer soluble and well past saturation."

"...The reason why it is not working is YOU CANNOT RINSE THE DOG OF borax and peroxide solution with any shampoo or water. After bathing the dog, keep the dog that way, no drying no rinsing. This is why the dog has not improved. Also BORAX is added DIRECTLY to the 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and no water is added separately, otherwise the solution is too weak."

TED'S UPDATE
7/12/2006: "I have reviewed all the dog's mange treatments both by my own tests and by many contributors. It appears that many people have trouble obtaining materials, such as sodium perborate hydrate, so I revised the remedy to hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution applied only once or so every week. The solution of sodium perborate hydrate is very much similar when borax and hydrogen peroxide is added. Some have either substituted hydrogen peroxide with benzoyl peroxide.

The problem about benzoyl peroxide is the upper limit by which you can use it without effect the dog as it is somewhat more toxic if given beyond a 10% concentration. 5% is usually a safe concentration. Benzoyl peroxide because of its toxicity is somewhat of an insecticide, while hydrogen peroxide is not, what it is in the original formulation is that it is a penetrant allowing the borax to go through the skin. Now some did not like hydrogen peroxide due to its limited supplies, so they make use of apple cider vinegar. For me a regular vinegar will do. Both a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide has two similarities. It is both a penetrant and when added with a safe insecticidal material such as borax, which has an toxicity on LD 50 equivalent to that of salt, this is the preferred method. However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax.

Boric acid is not recommended for use as it is much more toxic than borax. Borax's toxicity is about 3000 mg/kg, which is the equivalent toxicity to about that of salt. (check wikipedia). The idea is to make a solution of borax so that the solution can cover the entire body and penetrate through the skin of the dog to kill the demodex mites, for example. To use a spot treatment by pure powder will take an infinitely long time as it does not get to it through the dog's skin.

In some cases, people have tried neem oil, mineral oil. Both of these have similar effectiveness, but in different ways. Neem oil prevents the Demodex fleas from laying eggs by modifying their hormones, while mineral oils are moderately toxic only to the demodex eggs, not necessarily killing them. However, both are very limited based on my tests in really killing the insect. You see borax will both kill the eggs, modifying the hormones and their eggs by drying them all at once. The weakness of borax is limited solubility and limited penetration of the skin which you need either vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (toxic), MSM or DMSO solution. Ideally 10% DMSO should be preferred.

Pine Sol has limited insecticidal effectiveness, being a contact insecticidal, and does not provide lasting killing power once it has evaporated and does not kill living fleas, but it does kill their eggs somewhat. Only a fairly concentrated solution works and it does not prevent re-laying of stray eggs by the dog. In other words, the use of neem oil, mineral oil, benzoyl peroxide, and vaseline will not prevent the recurring of mange since eggs are not just on the dog, but can be anywhere in the house. Therefore re-infection is at issue. The one magic that borax has over its neighbors is that the borax powder that the dogs leaves in the house will kill the eggs even after the dogs no longer has mange and re-infection is therefore next to impossible. However, borax has limited effect on killing the larger mites and fleas, but not mange.

I found that adding 1/8 teaspoon per liter of water of borax added to the dog's water will cause the larger fleas to dry up and die at the same time. My dog for some reason likes to eat something like more than 1 gram of the sodium perborate crystals whenever he feels sick and the fleas just die off. The borax modifies the dog's blood and kills the mange inside out. This is why borax, i.e., sodium perborate, is required for mange, but not anything else due to preventive re-infection of the mange by the powder of the borax that destroys the eggs where the dog sleeps and where it walks around throughout the house.

VASELINE: The problem about using vaseline as an insecticide is that it has limited killing of eggs, but its weakness is that it is not a penetrant, and therefore the frequency of applications will take at least once every other day. Additionally, the hair of the dog will prevent proper application.

Some have went so far as to not use a solution of borax with hydrogen peroxide as a rinse then followed likely, perhaps a borax powder after bath. On the argument of being effective only as a spot treatment. Since dogs do not have sweat glands, not using a rinse will prevent the borax from absorbing into the skin to kill the mange under its skin. So this is not going to work. You need both borax as an insecticide, the water as the solution which to spread it to the skin surface, and a reliable penetrant to get it through the skin, such as vinegar, msm, DMSO, or even hydrogen peroxide. A benzoyl peroxide is both a penetrant and insecticide, but at higher concentration is somewhat toxic for dogs and as a result you are pretty much limited by the maximum concentration not to exceed beyond 5% being a preferred safety. I would prefer to limit myself at 3%.

I therefore suggest, not to get you lost in the woods, is that whatever formulation you use, always stick with borax and borax derivatives, such as sodium perborate monohydrate being the main insecticidal chemicals for the dog.

Pyrethrum is o.k. but in very low concentration of about 0.1% - 0.2% to prevent skin irritation for the dogs near the skin infection areas. The second mix you need is always the penetrant and the third formulation is appropriate dilutions in water. To provide lasting killing effect, non of these chemicals should generally be non-volatile insecticidal mixtures, which unfortunately most recommended are, with exception of perhaps borax and bentonite. Bentonite causes eggs to dry, so they can be used also, but they have no insecticidal mixture as borax and borax can performs both killing the insect, modifying the hormones to prevent egg laying, becomes a stomach poison for the insect, and at the same time causes their eggs to dry up.

I therefore will remain very flexible about what penetrants you use including hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (limited concentration), and vinegar. It must be noted that when formulating any mange it must be noted that they must be non-volatile and the chemicals should cause microscopic residues around the house so that re infection of mange is prevented, including mites and fleas.

I think this wraps up the basic theory and application of mange treatment, and hopefully other people will make a more effective formulations in the future at least equal or better than the original formula I have proposed. Just want to tell you that there are many ways you can treat mange, but the issue is one of toxicity, re infection, toxic levels, which portion kills it and how, and which is the penetrant which is the key to it all. Penetrant is important, the chemical must reach the target demodex under the skin. Usually hydrogen peroxide, vinegar, DMSO, and MSM will do that. It must be reminded again that borax, to work most effectively, is to prepare a solution without washing it off, followed by a small amount of borax powder to be applied if you wish. Any other application other than this such as using as purely powder form is NOT going to work.

[YEA]  01/08/2007: Garry from RI: "Hi, Just wanted to thank you for listing that mange treatment. My dog had mange bad enough that he would chew out large patches of fur and several times chewed his tail bloody and bare when I was away at work. I tried Lindane, which marginally worked, and a product by Zodiac as well as a lime sulpher dip. The Zodiac product worked the best but it was an old dusty bottle on the petstore shelf and I could not find it again to buy more once it was gone. He has had the mange a number of years. Caught it from a visit to the vet!! Saw the responses to your treatments and I gave him two dips with the peroxide / borax the first couple of weeks and then switched to a 50 / 50 water / white vinegar / borax dip ever since. I used white instead of ACV because it's cheaper and it seems that it's the acetic acid that is the carrier into the skin. ALL of his hair is back and he hardly scratches anymore. He gets the recommended borax in the the drinking water too. I intend to give him maintenance dips once every month or so and may continue with the Borax in the drinking water as an ongoing thing. Great advice! Thanks again!"

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01/05/2009: Vivian from Edmond, WA replies: "So it is ok to use the vinegar instead of the peroxide? I have a black haired dog and would rather him NOT turn orange by using the peroxide! LOL"

EC: This may not be an issue in the winter, only in the summer with strong sun!


[YEA]  01/01/2007: Sharon from UK: "Absolutely amazed by the results achieved in just one soaking of the solution.....my great dane is 12 month old & ( without me realising) ) has had this problem for around 6 /7months...now i know what he has its very easy to see the symptoms he had ( which i didnt notice )...tha severe hairloss i thought was malting...the bad smell i thought was because he's outdoors a lot...the reddening of the skin i thought was because he has white fur...the poor thing has been suffering all this time!!!!! after taking him to 2 different vets at a cost of over £200 he was first treated for ringworm - with absolutely no affect...i took him to another for a second opinion...he gave him 500mg anti-biotics, malaseb & advocate..i am on low income with 5 children & so could not afford to keep paying for treatment that is not working...the second vets did do a scrape which then resulted in the diagnosis...i came home almost crying at the cost....i was told this treatment could last several months....i came accross this site & i was very impressed with what other users had experienced using 'Ted's Cure'...so off i went to my local pharmacy to get the h/p & borax....within 24hrs of applying the solution his redness has totally gone & his baldness is dissapearing...he does however still have the awful smell so i am going to soak him again today with acv & borax...(they only had 1 bottle of h/p so have to wait for the order to come in wed )...i am so thankfull for this site & to Ted - from Bangkok!!!!! A massive Massive big thank you from the bottom of my heart."


[YEA]  12/20/2006: Sheila from UK: "I used apple cider vinegr and borax to cure mange. I soaked dog with mix of ACV and borax, every day. After 4 days skin had cleared, couldn`t believe how effective this was, would certainly use again."


[YEA]  12/10/2006: LaDonna from Longwood, FL: "All I can say is WOW!!! What a difference within 1 week on my Golden Retriever-Riley. Thank you, thank you so much for this remedy. My dog has been suffering for at least 3 weeks, I had no clue as to what was wrong with him. He is known to have allergies consistantly but I knew something was different with him when he started loosing his hair and chewing all over his body like something was eating him up. I started to do research last week when someone had suggested that he may have mites or the mange. I came across this website and read Ted's remedy. I knew I had to give it a shot, anything before taking him to the vet ( I did not want him to go through the process of a highly toxic dip). I did the remedy exactly as stated, no changes were made-did not dry him, etc..... As of today, remember-1 week ago I did this, he is getting his hair back, no red bumps oozing with blood, no chewing off his hair. His coat is beginning to get its shine back and we both can sleep at night without the excessive scratching. It works folks, try it and you will be amazed. I do have before and after pictures if anyone would like to see the results. Thank you, LaDonna......gladonna1968@yaho.com"

EC: LaDonna kindly sent us the photos when we wrote back to her.' Here they are -- AMAZING!


[YEA]  12/10/2006: BJ from Spanaway, WA: "I've posted a couple of times now for the past month and I wanted to say that my chocolate lab is doing much better. Thank you so much Ted! She did appear to get worst before getting better and she needed several treatments in the first couple of weeks. Although her hair did lighten dramatically, she appears to be getting slowly back to her normal color now. Her hair is also growing back for which I'm very relieved because she lost so much of her hair. Everyone who saw her felt so sorry. Now I'm giving her approximately one treatment every week or two and plan to keep it up for another month or longer if necessary. I'm so grateful to you Ted and thank you for sharing your rememdy with all of us. Thank you too for answering our questions over and over. I can understand some of these writers when they are doing the treatments on their own pets, they just want to make sure it's right. Sincerely,"

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Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Frequency of treatment several applications is important. Hydrogen peroxide content of 1% may cause the hair to lighten from the bleaching effect on the hair. however this is only a temporary problem and most dogs really don't have hair anyway. By the time they do get the hair, most of the mange is gone and the hair will restore. It just takes patience and frequent applications, such as several times a week. However you simply have to decide how frequent --if the smells get bad, it is time to do the bath!"


[YEA]  12/01/2006: Laura from Hartford, WI: "I tried Ted's remedy with a little twist. My Dogue De Bordeaux had been battling mange for several months. The Vet had me giving her baths with peroxide shampoo and boosting her vitamins and fish oils. We were just about to give in to the dip when I found your web site. I live in a colder climate so I did not want to leave her sit wet, I shampooed her with the peroxide shampoo and poured the borax and apple cider vinegar on her and left it sit for 10 minutes. And rinsed thoroughly, every three days for two weeks.

At the end of the two weeks I had her scrapped she was negative. A week later I had her checked again, still negative. It has been about 6 weeks and she is just beautiful. Her hair is almost all back. I took her to the vet and she thought I got a new dog. We are having some other problems, she keeps getting pyoderma. The vet puts her on antibiotics and it clears when she is done the pyoderma comes back. Any suggestions? Thank you so much for the mange cure. I was so afraid of the dip."

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Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Laura: The dog may have a vitamin/mineral deficiency. Often it is the zinc. Just give the zinc to the dog for only 2-3 days at 25 per day and was the dog. Then add 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda to the dogs drinking water per liter of water. It will take a while, but about 1 week the dog SHOULD improve, if not, it is another condition. In that case, I would add 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt to one liter of water instead. Usually adding sea salt will kill the bacteria, albeit, slowly and about a week also. I prefer to do it a bit slowly."


[YEA]  11/15/2006: Marilyn from Queensbury, NY: "Thanks for your reply about the solution near the eyes. I thought I'd update you on our progress. As I wrote earlier, Onyx gets very scared when a hose is used for bathing, so I have yet to bathe her. I have been using the solution as a "sponge bath" on her bare spots and around her eyes twice a day for just over a week now... within 3 days the hair was starting to grow back!! Two of the spots over her hips are barely noticable now. She's not crazy about being sponged along her muzzle or down the front of her chest...but we manage. Thanks to the combination of the antibiotics for the pustules and the borax solution, she doesn't smell like a nasty dog anymore! She goes back to her vet in a couple of weeks for a recheck - I will definitely be telling him about your cure!"


[YEA]  11/09/2006: Mary from Burlington, MA: "JUST A COMMENT ON YOUR FEEDBACK FROM MY LAST E-MAIL. WHAT A COINCIDENCE THAT MY 14 1/2 YEAR OLD DOG HAD HER SHOTS, RABIES, DISTEMPER, PARVO IN LATE AUGUST. SHE THEN DEVELOPED A URINARY TRACT INFECTION AND THEN 3 WEEKS LATER DEVELOPED THE MANGE. I AM CONVINCED, NOW THAT YOU BRING IT UP, THAT YOU ARE RIGHT AND THAT HER IMMUNE SYSTEM WAS SUPPRESSED BY THE VACINES. I WILL NOT ALLOW THE VET TO GIVE HER ANY MORE VACCINES. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO MY ATTENTION IT RANG SUCH A BELL IN MY MIND."

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Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Supplement the dog with some iodine rich foods, such as seaweed, raw food, and some zinc should restore some of the dog's immune function. There are studies that showed animals that were vaccinated lived a shorter life as a result of immune suppression. I am sure this applies to my dog and since stopping with all these vaccines he's been healthy ever since. My dog is currently about 15 years old and going strong."


[YEA]  11/06/2006: Mary from Burlington, MA: "I TRIED THE BORAX & HYDROGEN PEROXIDE SOLUTION. I USED IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH IVERMECTIN PRESCRIBED BY MY VET. THE MANGE GOT WORSE AFTER 3 DAYS ON THE MED SO IN DESPERATION I USED TED'S SOLUTION. AFTER 2 DAYS IT LOOKED 100% BETTER AND ON THE THIRD DAY THE HAIR STARTED TO GROW BACK IN. I CONTINUED THE BORAX SOLUTION TREATMENT EVERY 3 DAYS FOR 2 WEEKS AND I JUST TOOK HER BACK TO THE VET AFTER 3 WEEKS AND SHE HAD A TOTALLY NEGATIVE SCRAPING. THERE WAS NOT 1 MITE PRESENT. I AM CONVINCED THAT THIS SOLUTION WAS THE CURE FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND I AM TOTALLY GRATEFUL TO TED FOR HIS HARD WORK HELPING THESE ANIMALS AND THEIR OWNERS CURE MANGE! THANKYOU SO MUCH."

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Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The results closely matched my own findings on the mange. I still need to further do research on dogs' viral skin condition and fungus skin condition problem. While this does not occur often, it seems that part of the problem stemd from yearly vaccination of my dog. The last time my dog was vaccinated was almost 10 years ago for rabies, and now my dog no longer has any yeast infections and fungus skin problems. So is the cause of these condition due to the vaccinations? I am not sure. But after stopping the vaccination my own dog's skin problem just went away. What I do know for sure is vaccination does cause immune suppression and this factor may be related to yeast and other skin virus conditions. The only way I could know this, of course, is your feedback. Does anyone observe this same pattern?"
07/21/2009: Mom to many from El Cajon, CA replies: "I found our problem happened after 2nd immunizations, the dog started to lose his hair, I thought it was an allergic reaction to shots."
08/19/2011: Willy from Venice, Ca replies: "Yes, my dog's issue came after a government required rabies shot. Does this remedy work for yeast?"
10/23/2012: Poppie from Napier, Western Cape, South Africa replies: "Yes Ted I agree. I got my English Bullterrier Puppy from the breeder (following the vaccinations that her vet gave the puppy) and then I had to take Bianca for another two. At 5 and a half months I took her for her sterilization surgery and ten days thereafter the vet found that she has very bad demodex mange. There were signs that I didn't pick up, but after he has done the skin scrape and diagnosed her, the bell rang! You are doing fantastic work Ted! Keep it up! You are making our furry friends very proud of you!!!! Sincerely, Poppie from South Africa."


[YEA]  10/25/2006: Sarah from Liverpool, Nova Scotia, Canada: "Lady is a19 month old valley bull... she had mange when we got her at 8 weeks old ..We had to take her to the vet -- it cost us over a 1000.00 dollars. She got rid of the mange for about 2 months .. the vet said they couldn't get the dip for her anymore ..so i saw Remedy #2 on the internet so i through i try it.. she is looking real good, nice and white and no more streching and digging ...Thought I would let you know it worked real well on her. Thanks."


[YEA]  10/09/2006: Nancy from Selma, Indiana: "I took my chocolate lab to (2) different vets trying to figure out what was going on with his skin. They put him on cortisone pills, antibiotics, had me dip him in sulphur dips on five day intervals. Nothing seemed to help him. He would appear to somewhat get better, but nothing major noticeable. The smell never eased up. On my own, I tried vinegar baths and other things to try and ease up and/or cure his condition. Nothing ever helped. A year later and about $500.00 American dollars poorer; I was about to give up hope of helping him. Then, I stumbled onto your remedy using peroxide, borax, and water. I thought, why not give it a shot; I've spent out all sorts of $$ on every type of cure thinkable. If it helps him, I would be so much relieved for him. I went to the store that evening and bought a box of mule team borax, two bottle of peroxide (I anticipated more than one treatment, and I was right) and a sponge for application. The next afternoon, I cornered the poor fellow and sponged on a dose of the mixture. He wasn't impressed, but he is a little gun shy about washings and dips since he has been subjected to so much in and so many treatments already. I laid in on heavy this first treatment , and left it to dry up on him. He rolled around in the yard like any other treatment or bath and then went about his usual business. The next day, he seemed less flaky; and when I brushed him, the skin flakes seemed to just come right out with ease. Two days later, I made up another batch. A little less potent this time. I sponged him down again ( to his dismay, he hates personal hygiene issues now) I left this on to dry. The next day, he had some dried up flakes; but not near as many. Most of the yellowish scale was gone; and his odor was starting to improve (Not gone all the way though) Two days later, I again made up another batch and sponged it all over him. Left it to dry. The next day, he had hardly any new flakes, his odor is gone, hair is starting to re grow. I'm just totally amazed. I am going to make a spritz and lightly spritz him once a week when I brush him out and hopefully he will remain in remission for whatever this stuff was. Maybe it was the red mange. Whatever it was, your #2 cure has given him his life back. He had to be miserable. Thank you for sharing your remedy; I'm ecstatic. $3.90 for a box of borax, $1.00 for 2 bottles of peroxide, a couple cents worth of water equals approximately $5.00..................my dog's well being and peace of mind from the savages of his skin condition, priceless!"


[YEA]  10/04/2006: Dominique from New York, NY: "Thank you so much for your cure. It truly worked. My dog SERIOUS is a one year old Pit Bull. She developed Red Mange during a recent trip to New Orleans. It attacked her right under her mouth on her neck. At first I thought that it was just an infection from flea bites but then it began to spread and made little bead-like sores beneath her skin that were purplish-red in color. Then her hair began to disappear and when she scratched it left an unbearable odor. I found this sight, Thank God! And bought the "Mule" Borax mixed it with water until it would no longer dissolve and poured in 3% Peroxide, I also added cayenne pepper, I poured it all over her coat. Internally I gave her Cayenne Pepper/Golden Seal and Burdock Root. AT first she got worse but then after one week I saw drastic improvements. I used this solution 2X a week on her whole body and every night on her neck where the problem was worse. I gave her the internal gumbo-mix every night for about 2 weeks Today, she is completely cured. I don't even remember where it was in the first place. I would say it took about 4 to 6 weeks for it to completely disappear. Thank you TED for sharing you recipe."

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Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dominique: Adding cayenne pepper may worsen the condition for severe form of mange as it causes severe stinging on open wounds. Without the cayenne pepper, the dog would have recovered, at least initially faster. Therefore use the formula without the cayenne peppers, especially for external application would have worked better."


[YEA]  09/27/2006: Maria from Macomb, MI: "I tried Remedy #2 -- 1% peroxide and 20 mule team borax { I had to dilute the peroxide cuz I only found 3% solution. It cured whatever the heck this puppy had that my fiance surprised me with. Obviously now I realize it was mange with darkened thick skin and sores with hairless patches.

I received the cutest little puppy as a gift and she was beautiful but itchy. I didn't realize it until it got way out of control. At first she was biting her feet and scratching her ears. Then came the licking. Scratching herself until she bled from her face. I was horrified!!! She developed all these red, hairless & bumpy patches mainly on her ears and face that she would rip open from scratching.She couldn't nap or more than 10 minutes at a time, which also made her very grouchy. First we thought it was corn allergy. NOT. still tearing herself up. Then I did some research and we gave her some benedryl, that seemed to make her sooo sleepy, but at least she could rest. Still had it and becoming worse. The vet suggested we use the dip. After all I've heard about this stuff I decided to try remedy #2 before we went the dipping route. One last ditch attempt for relief, I thought. The vet was was upset with my decision and said it will only become worse and she may develop skin infections in the meantime. I took the chance. I went to Wal-mart and got the Borax for for under $3.00 and the huge peroxide for a buck. $4.00 total. I mixed up the ingredients for remedy #2 and {diluting 3% peroxide with 2 parts water to one part peroxide and the borax and mixed it well./ Hot water makes her itch worse so I used warm water for the first part water and added the borax, it dissolved great, then I added the other part cold water and the peroxide and continued to stir until it was mixed. I washed her with V05 and rinsed with cool water then put on the remedy with the plug in the tub cuz her feet were starting to be affected. I poured it all over and was careful to get every inch of her. I had to use a clean wash cloth to dip in the tub and get her face, ears and chin and all around her hairless mouth. It was messy and hard to keep hr from shaking it off all over the walls so I draped a clean towel over her back as I "babysat" her until she was dry.I left her to sop everywhere but kept the back towel on for as long as I could cuz the walls were hit!! no pun intended. She is a big girl at 5 months old and 48 lbs. Great dane mix we think so it was hard to pull this off. Back to the real point here!!!! With her first bath she showed AMAZING results. The scratching was almost GONE!!! First bath, unbelievable!!!By the next day all the redness was gone except from around her mouth and chin. On the 3rd day I noticed hair regrowth around her eyes. At the end of the first week with one bath she looks almost normal with little golden hairs filling in her nakedness. She has 1 bath every week for 3 weeks now, my vet hasn't seen me since. We all thank you and especially Brandy ,our big puppy."

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Ted from bangkok, Thailand replies: "On the 3rd day I noticed hair re growth around her eyes.

Yes, using this method hair re growth can be observed in only a couple of days for the dog. The most easy way to tell if it works or not is that the dog no longer smells like rotting skin. This is the best way to tell because within one day the smell of rotting skin should completely disappeared. If not, repeat applications is necessary."


[YEA]  09/18/2006: Jenny from UK: "Hello Ted, The first thing I would like to do if it were at all possible, would be to shake your hand Ted and thank you most sincerely for your advice on the treatment of 'Dermodecosis' (Red Mange).

For us your advice has been a miracle cure! We have 2 exceptional examples of how your advice on the use of the 'wash and Borax / Hydrogen Peroxide soaks' have worked and they are as follows:

1st example - We had a litter of pups and at about 4 weeks old one pup started to get pimples on his head and chest. We duly took him to the vet suspecting an allergy to either the grass or a change in the soap powder we used. The vet confirmed this and put him on antibiotics and some antihistamine tablets.

One week later the pimples had spread over his head, neck, throat and chest and most of the others had them too. The boys were by far the worst affected. We took the original pup back to the vet and one other and he immediately diagnosed the cause as being the Dermodex Mite or 'Red Mange'. The only treatment he recommended was 'Advocate' a liquid anti-mite/flea/worm treatment which is applied on the skin on the back of the neck, but as per instructions, our pups were too young for it. The next day the vet phoned the manufacturers of Advocate and they said it was safe to use in a pup of nearly 6 weeks old but it had to be an exact amount according to the individual weight of the pup. So, later that day the vet came out weighed each pup and applied the appropriate amount of liquid. The pups had to be separated from each other, to avoid the stuff being licked off. This was duly done and did they scream? You betcha they did!

4 days later and the pups were far worse, with the first pup now being bright red virtually all over the front half from the waist forward and some of the skin had cracked and little sores were developing. In my opinion, the Avocate had done absolutely nothing to help and the situation was becoming hopeless.

In a desperate attempt to find something to help these poor babies, I went on the internet, came across 'www.earthclinic.com' and Ted with his 'miracle cure' (no joke!).

We brought all the pups into the kitchen, washed each in turn with a little shampoo and warm water, then placed them in a tub we had bought for the purpose and soaked them in the Borax/Hydrogen Peroxide solution and left them sopping wet to dry on towels/blankets in front of the fire (but not too close).

We both got well covered ourselves and many times had the solution splashed onto our faces and in ours eyes. Absolutely no pain was experienced by either of us, which was really reassuring, as we didn't't know whether or not the solution would sting. The pups didn't't mind the bathing part but were quite distressed at being left soaking wet and made no bones about telling us off! Again this was somewhat distressing but we followed Ted's instructions and resisted the temptation to dry them off.

It took some time for them to dry completely and once they were all content again we fed them and all was well. We did end up with 9 rather white and dusty pups, as when they dried, powder deposits remained on their coats: got to say, they did look quite cute though, especially the black ones! Now this is where we feel the miracle fits in – 2 DAYS LATER, the original pup had almost totally cleared of his redness, spots, scabs and sores and this is fact! All the other pups that had been infected had the same result – absolutely amazing! The relief for us was phenomenal, I can tell you and not to mention for our pups.

We repeated the 'wash and soak' as Ted suggests, 3 days later and before the week was out there was absolutely no sign of the Dermodecosis what so ever. I have gone on a bit so I will end here and give you the 2nd example later.

Please note the above is my personal experience and the views contained there in are my own. A MASSIVE THANK YOU TED FROM ALL OF US (2 and 4 legged ones) FOR ALL YOUR ADVICE, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW JUST HOW EXTREMELY GRATEFUL WE ARE."


[YEA]  09/18/2006: Jenny from UK: "Hello again, This is my 2nd exceptional example of how your advice Ted on the use of the 'wash and Borax / Hydrogen Peroxide soaks' have worked for our dogs:

2nd example - One of our young bitches (about 12 months old) began to get swollen toes and sores in between. We took her to the vet who diagnosed Dermodex mites as the cause. He gave her antibiotics and 'Advocate' an anti mite/flea/tick/worm treatment that comes in liquid form in small plastic vials and it is placed on the skin on the back of the neck.

We had known a friend have dermodex on her small dog's eyelids and her vet used 'Stronghold' same sort of treatment I believe, but a different manufacturer and this one had worked. Our vet convinced us that Advocate was better especially for giant breeds, which is what we have. So taking his advice we followed the course of treatment he recommended.

To cut a very long and painful story a little shorter, our dog's feet did not improve consistently. We would try different antibiotics, increasing the amount of Advocate used per month, different footbaths like washing her feet with 'Malaseb' (an anti fungal/antibacterial shampoo) from the vet and we tried stopping the Malaseb and doing Potassium Permanganate (Condy's crystals) footbaths from a previous and successful treatment of ours, tried on a different dog in the past. Yes, there were slight improvements in many cases but then the condition deteriorated and got progressively worse over time.

Eventually our girl could hardly put her feet to the ground obviously to us in great pain. Her feet were splayed with toes swollen like big sausages, red and with small weeping sores between them. It was as painful to watch her, as it must have been for her to live with. She would not play with our other dogs and although she remained as gentle, loving and well natured as she always has been, she was just not herself.

We tried different vets in the same practice to see if their ideas varied and even after asking specifically if there was an alternate treatment, we were told the same thing: it was a difficult condition to treat and could take months to get it sorted and what had been recommended was the best they could offer. How right they were in one respect, she started the condition this January and was still under their care by September.

We then found Ted's cure on earthclinic.com when we were desperately looking for something to help the Dermodecosis on our puppies. We thought we would try it so we explained to the vet what the wash and then soaks with Borax/Hydrogen Peroxide involved and his reply was to be careful with the Hydrogen Peroxide as it was very drying and to mind that it didn't't burn the skin. He neither acknowledged nor denied that he had heard of the treatment.

We washed our bitch with a little shampoo and rinsed her thoroughly; we then stood her in a big plastic bath (plaster's bath) in the garden and saturated her in the borax/hydrogen peroxide solution – not just her feet but all over. By standing in the plastic bath her feet got a good soaking at the same time.

We understand the dermodex mite is not contagious (other than in the respect of from dam to pup), but we decided to treat all our dogs so as not to take any chances with them. This was no mean feat I can tell you, when you have as dogs many dogs as we have!

Here again the 'miracle' in our eyes was seen in just 2 days, our girl's feet had lost all the redness/swelling/sores etc and for the first time in months she was charging up the garden with the others and playing on the patio – wonderful!

The vet that had most of the dealings with our girl was told of the cure and his reply was "oh good." We took photos of the pup we had with Dermodecosis to the other vet and showed and explained the dynamic effect the borax etc had had both on the pups and on our young bitch and asked him if he had heard of it. His reply was yes, but that it was an old fashioned remedy and that it didn't't work very well. We told him that as far as we were concerned the Advocate was not effective on the pups or our bitch and that in fact; the conditions had got worse over all. The Borax remedy had indeed been successful and dramatically so and we asked that he consider it as a form of treatment to others that find themselves in the situation we had been in. We explained that although the cost of the treatment was a consideration and at about £650 that is some consideration, what was more important to us, was the pain and suffering that our bitch had gone through as we believe for a period of some 9 months.

Interestingly enough, a bitch about 2 years ago got an infection with gross reddening, hair loss and some small sores, similar to our young bitch and this started about 6 weeks or so after giving birth. We had no association with dermodex mites at that time and her treatment lasted several months and the cost of that was about £800 give or take. We now wonder if this indeed was the self same Dermodecosis?

Ted, this is in my opinion a quite remarkable cure and at a cost of about £6 to treat one adult dog and a giant breed at that, involving 2 washes/borax soaks and having a cure in far less than a week, is I feel remarkable in more ways than one. Again I would like to state that the above is what I have found to be so in both my opinion and through personal experience. Thank you so much Ted. Regards,"

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09/20/2006: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Jenny: I feel very happy of such positive response, and I hope more people like you would follow the recipes I laid out! I have struggled for months with my own dog trying everything in sight and it have dried up my savings to get my own dog to normal. The vets simply made me broke, and it is my hope that many of the readers do not fall into the same trap I am in. I could not find a clue in the internet to solve this problem, so what I had to do was a very painful trial and error exercise. It is this very reason why I want to provide the information free to the public. Again thank you with your comments! It really make me happy to hear that your dogs were cured.

Responding to your questions:

We now wonder if this indeed was the self same Dermodecosis?

It doesn't matter. If it is an insect under the dog's skin, borax would kill them EVERYTIME, mange or by any other name, you would get the same results.

Potassium Permanganate (Condy’s crystals) footbaths

Everything you mentioned I have already tried it. Nothing worked except the ones I am posting at earthclinic. Believe me, I got the same result, it was working also only briefly. The product, Advocate, Stronghold, etc. etc. I tried it all. Everything under the sun, I tried it. The amount of money you spend 650 british pounds, is a king's ransom, if you live in Thailand of course!

the borax etc had had both on the pups and on our young bitch and asked him if he had heard of it. His reply was yes, but that it was an old fashioned remedy and that it didn't work very well.

The Vet was absolutely right, borax IS AN old fashioned remedy and doesn't work very well. The SECRET is when you add a super penetrant, the Hydrogen peroxide, is what makes it so effective - it goes right through the dog's skin and the insect's body too. Adding hydrogen peroxide to the borax is the real secret. There are other penetrants such as vinegar, but it doesn't work as well. Of course, you can boost the effectiveness by adding a vinegar/hydrogen peroxide/borax, but this would effectively confuse the reader with all the details. By far the simplest most effective solution is the borax/hydrogen peroxide formula. There are other newer formulas I developed over the years, but I believe this is more than sufficient for general applications mange, regardless the various skin conditions of the dog. "






 



 

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