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Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Activated Charcoal
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
- Chinese Medicine Diagnosis of the Tongue
- Dietary Suggestions
- Eliminate Dairy
- Fermented Foods
- General Feedback
- Hydrogen Peroxide
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Sea Salt
- Lie Bumps
- Multiple Remedies
- Oil Pulling
- Peppermint Oil
- Red Wine
- Remedies Needed
- Toothpaste Without Chemicals
- White Tongue Remedies
01/17/2009: Anon from Buffalo, NY: "Hi. Where can I find glycerin? I looked in the toothpaste aisle and in the organic aisle at the supermarket. Is it something you can only find online? Thank you."
EC: No, check the wound care section in your local pharmacy or grocery store. We usually see it on either the very top or the very bottom shelf. At Whole Foods, we once found a great brand of vegetable glycerin in the castor oil/massage oil section. Singers use veggie-based glycerin to coat sore throats as it's safe for internal use.
Here's one advertised at iherb.com: http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=7962&at=0
02/15/2011: Mari from Calgary, Alberta, Canada replies: "I didn't know glycerin could be used like this! The only thing I've ever used it for is making fondant for cakes and restoring the consistency of icing when it dries out.
Wilton sells it in 59ml (2 fl oz. ) bottles in craft stores or cake decorating stores too. Usually about $5 (CAN), but if you go to a Michael's Craft Store with one of their 40% off coupons, it brings it down to $3.
I've had the white tongue problem for a while too, so I'm going to give this a try."
[WORKED TEMPORARILY] 06/20/2011: King Of Bb from Philadelphia, Pa replies: "I bought some Vegetable Glycerin from my favorite place, luckyvitamin.com. I got Natures Answer Extrac 4oz. After the first use I saw a change from a white tongue to a light pink one. I used my tongue brush. I would imagine after a few days of use my white tongue will be completely gone. I wish I read this a long time ago. I currently use Dr. Katz toothpaste and Motuhwash. It works but doesnt last as long as it states. Maybe the Dr. Katz and Vegetable Glycerin combo will eliminate the bad breath."
[YEA] 05/25/2006: Marina from Bronx, NY: "I wanted something natural to whiten my teeth and take the white film off my tongue. A co-worker of mine told me to try glycerine to replace it for toothpaste when i wanted a whiter smile and clean tongue so i tried it and to my surprise the stains on my teeth were gone they were gleaming and my tongue was so pink and healthy. and i loyally use it every now and then when my teeth are looking dull and brush my tongue with it daily!"Replies
01/08/2009: Brian from Vancouver, BC Canada replies: "Glycerin (oral health): Glycerin, including the drugstore USP type, is very effective in killing mouth bacteria and dissolving stains. It is an approved food additive, present in large quantities in ice cream, etc.
It works by hygroscopic action: it instantly pulls the water out of bacteria. Sip, swish, especially on the back of the tongue, and swallow for instant sweet breath. It is also a sweetener (60% sweetness rating); actually 3-carbon alcohol, with more uses than virtually any other chemical on Earth. (1500+ at last count).
Doubles healing speed, halves scarring."
02/18/2009: Zarina from Lusaka, Zambia replies: "Is this the usual glycerine that we use on the body??"
[NAY] 12/22/2008: Shawnta E. from Virginia Beach, VA: "The white tongue issue most of you are probably referring to is called geographical tongue. This is only present in about 3% of the population. I was diagnosed with this about 3 years ago, and officially, there is no cure for it. I had searched high and low for one, and all official websites state there just isn't one. However, some sites have stated to brush with peroxide, but I haven't had much success with it. Sorry I couldn't offer a positive remedy."Replies
02/17/2014: Laura Regan from Ohio/usa replies: "I have found that rinsing the affected area of a geographical tongue with white vinegar will stop the progression of the white patches in their tracks!!! There is a very minimal amount of tingle involved, especially if applied immediately after brushing teeth & tongue. However, it is very quickly followed by a slight numbing feeling, which as you know will give you some relief as those patches can get very sore when brushing. I did this several times throughout the day during the last episode, mainly for the numbing effect & was surprised at the containment I noticed. Tried it again @ the very first sign this time & have noticed the same results! Hope this helps!"
[NAY] 11/19/2008: Jeanne from Hickory, NC: "white tongue: I am using Oral Peroxide, have been for apx. 2 months. Very little diff. Looking for home remedy that works."
[YEA] 06/10/2008: Matt from Magna, Utah: "re: white tongue. I am surprised no one has proposed using hydrogen peroxide to remove a tongue coating. Flush several times for between 30 and 60 minutes with approx. 2 or 3 percent hydrogen peroxide.. worked for me"Replies
04/07/2009: Wolf from Malibu, CA replies: "30 to 60 minutes? really?"
Hydrogen Peroxide, Sea Salt
04/07/2011: Henry Poole from Wisconsin, Minnesota: "Brushed the tongue with seasalt which removed the white coating on the back on the tongue, but a grey/white patch remained in the center of the tongue with elongated white lesions in front of the patch.
The tongue was pulled forward with a wash cloth and the patch cotton swabbed with 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide over a periode of 5 days. The pain was excruciating. Layer after layer came off the tongue. The tongue looks swollen but clean now."Replies
05/12/2011: Ritz from Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh, india replies: "hii.. How is your tongue now?.. do you have to do the 'cure' daily?..thanx.."
08/30/2012: Anonymosaurus Rex from Somewhere, Alone, Listening To Radiohead: "Lie bumps or pimples on the tongue are almost completely overlooked in the medical profession. They are known as either eruptive lingual papillitis or fungiform papillary glossitis. There is one study indicating that lie bumps may be contagious, but there is also some evidence that it can be caused by irritation and minor damage to the tongue. People who have eczema, asthma or other allergies are more likely to suffer from lie bumps.
I have asthma and allergies, and in my experience with lie bumps I have gotten them from scraping my tongue on my teeth (for example, if there is food stuck in my teeth) quite often. I also experienced oral thrush once in my life due to being extremely run down. I was also dating a person who was rather yeasty at the time, as well. While I had oral thrush I had many painful lie bumps on my tongue. This may seem to back up the idea that lie bumps are contagious, but that I had lie bumps for on occasions many years before this it would seem that I caught it a long time before then or that it is something else.
I have noticed that if I eat more sugar, I will get lie bumps more regularly. In my opinion, sugar, thrush, and all-too-often tongue abrasions along it seems as though lie bumps are opportunistic yeast outbreaks that take root in any small nick or scrap in the tongue, provided that your oral condition are favourable for any yeastie-beasties.
You need to avoid high levels of carbohydrates in your mouth, or at least keep it to the shortest amount of time. This means you need to:
- reduce your sugar intake
- chew your food well
- drink water, rinse or brush after eating (if you have eaten something acidic, leave the brushing for a bit to save damaging the enamel on your teeth)
- avoid sticky high sugar foods, like toffee
You also need to ensure that your mouth is alkaline enough to prevent/inhibit the growth of yeast. Avoid highly acidic foods and drinks, such as cola.
My advice to someone suffering from lie bumps is to take the above advice on lifestyle and diet, and to look into the symptoms of systemic candida overgrowth as it is likely that the lie bumps are just one symptom of a bigger problem.
If you want to get rid of a current outbreak of lie bumps, I would recommend you try:
- applying a small amount of salt directly on to the bump and leaving it as long as possible
- avoid rubbing the bump on teeth as much as possible
- gargle a drop or two of an antifungal essential oil in warm water (oregano, tea tree, lavender, mint, cinnamon, thyme, clove...
- gargle salt water or iodine in water
- gargle some cayenne pepper (if you can handle it)
- swishing live-culture yoghurt in your mouth
- brush your teeth a minimum of two times a day, and rinse after eating any food
Try applying salt, gargling 1-2 times a day, swishing yoghurt and brushing and rinsing your mouth frequently."
[YEA] 11/10/2007: Rich from Scranton, PA: "Listerine mouthwash (antiseptic) really helps clean up your tongue. Just slowly swish it in your mouth and continue even if it burns. After the burn is unbearable or stops, then spit it in the sink. After three rinses my tongue was less white."Replies
[NAY] 09/06/2008: Jini from Toronto, Canada replies: "It didn't work for me."
[NAY] 12/11/2009: Jay from Los Angeles, Ca Usa replies: "I have been using it for about two months and no improvement yet."
04/27/2012: Rick from Eugene, Or replies: "I can't use listerine or any alcohol-based mouthwash. Makes my situation worse. It dries out my mouth and so encourages the anearobic bacteria which hide out in a pocket behind a wisdom tooth ( I now keep it clean with a rubber-tipped thingy dipped in hydrogen peroxide). I thought I was doing good but not so. Please do not recommend Listerine."
[NAY] 07/28/2012: Steiconi from Hilo, Hawaii replies: "Hah! I use Listerine every day, and still got a white coating. It's most likely thrush, caused by chemo. Yea side effects!"
[NAY] 03/20/2010: Me from Adelaide, Australia: "im 42, ive had a white tongue for about 6 months, it also is now going brown, like ive been smoking (i dont smoke , use drugs and would be lucky to drink one beer a month), dont have massive sugar or anything overload in my diet
tongue tastes horrid and feels like ive burnt it, rear teeth coated, tried everything:
oral medicine from doctor (mild response but made stomach sore)
water drinking increase
now trying rock salt, which cleans it better, but it still keeps coming back
its driving me insane, waking to it every morn (i brush tongue with salt and gargle) then by afternoon its back."
03/21/2010: Cait from Los Angeles, Ca, Usa replies: "It might be something in your diet causing the issue. I get a white tongue when I drink milk or soy milk and a brown tongue when I eat honey! Goat milk and rice milk is okay for me, no white tongue. Experiment by removing one food after another to find out what the culprit is. It could also be a sign of candida overgrowth.Good luck to you!"
03/21/2010: Cimmarron from Pomona, Mo replies: "Hi,
I had the same problem with my tongue several months ago. I found out that I was taking too much cod liver oil, it had too much vit A and D in it. I quit taking the cod liver oil and started taking the flaxseed oil and I started brushing my tongue with tooth paste and peroxide,.... my tongue turned pink again. Hope this helps"
03/21/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "I had a white coated tongue for most of my life (52 years old). Yesterday I decided to follow some advice I read here and bought natural tooth paste with salt. It is more expensive than normal tooth pastes but well, it did the trick right away. My tongue was clean from the first time I brushed my teeth with it and it is still clean today. I think that all that stuff in tooth pastes is not good for you."
07/22/2010: Miss Ely from Valley Stream , Ny replies: "Okay so im 18 and I just got my tongue pierced 3 days ago. I do have that white stuff on my tongue and I really want to get rid of it since I got my tongue pierced. What should I do? should I wait till my piercing heals completely or should I do the salt method or any method now? and will my piercing get infected? thnx"
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 11/20/2009: Shaun from Provo, Utah: "I have not been aware of "white tongue" as a condition until more recently, having it begin to dawn on me. Looking back from late teen years, I kept good oral heigene, but my breath was offensive, and I didn't know how to alleviate it. In later years the tongue became the focus of concern. Will toothpaste break down that white coating on the tongue? No. Somehow I began to find relief by bringing a heaping load of baking soda into my mouth on my toothbrush. I would then press the powder against the roof of my mouth for a while, then brush and rinse it off as well. It was a great help, actually chemically breaking down that white coating. It was so helpful that I began to put baking powder in a small jar and having it with my toothpaste when I travel. I've also gargled with water and some hydrogen peroxide. Salt water is great too, but I want to avoid the table salt containing aluminum, added in as a non-caking agent.
Of interest to those here. There is a "detox" diet, which I tried a few years ago and I believed helped me much in overall health, giving relief to a burdened liver (as the whites of my eyes were jaundiced looking.)
after getting I'll and seeing a very jaundiced look in my eyes, I went ahead and comitted to this Stanley Burough's "Master Cleanser" or lemonade diet. My mother had tried it. One thing you do when on the diet (10 day minimum) is monitor your tongue. Within. Few days on that detox, the tongue become a white shag carpet as the body begins to operate a cellular house cleaning. The tongue indicates the progress. And when do you note you're clean? The tongue turns pink and the white coating is gone.
I did that cleanse diet (a little yellow book at the health food store,) and found that in 30 days I did not get rid of white tongue, which indicates I am still full of toxins, despite all the absolutely vile stuff I hacked up when on the diet. I will begin that diet anew after thanksgiving. Perhaps this round I'll obtain that enviable pink tongue.
When on that diet, I must relate that I only needed 6 hours of sleep a night to feel very rested, nor did I toss and turn. I always awoke and felt bright, easily able to rise from bed. I had energy all day and ambition not evident since my teen years.
One other thing to share, that last time I got sick and jaundiced looking, I took up the free bio-meridian scan offered by Dr Jack Stockwell in SLC on his radio show. They tested me and the technition asked: "what have you done to your lungs? You have done damage to your lungs, you've got scar tissue in your lungs and are loaded in the abdomen with toxins."
Bingo. I was becoming a believer in the scan. My Sr. year of high school I was in a finishing room in the woodshop two hours a day for a few months. It was toxic. The year after I graduated, the fire Marshall condemned the place, forcing a wall to be knocked out and many more exhaust fans installed. My time there resulted in my developing an athsmatic condition, where I just struggled to get air. After a year it seemed this condition left me and I forgot about it until that scan affirmed lung damage and toxins were in my system.
So is that the basis of my white tongue? Will another long 2-3 weeks on the lemonaide diet cleanse me enough to obtain permanantly that white tongue? I shall see.
Thanks for the site and the reading of all these posts dealing with white tongue. It's very informative."
[NAY] 07/27/2009: Je from Manila, Philippines: "Helo im here coz i stil have white coating on my tongue and halitosis as well, i tried brushng my tongue using baking soda, hydrogen peroxide and now the charcoal powder..And i stil have a sour taste n my mouth when i wake up. Somebody plz help me get rid of ths embarasing problem."Replies
07/27/2009: Kathy from Nevada replies: "try to brush your tongue with salt...it takes the white stuff off!"
08/08/2009: Donna from Sydney, Australia replies: "If you want to cure bad breath and white tongue try Manucca Honey each day. Just a teaspoon each morning. It takes about 2 weeks to work. The higher the umm in the honey the better"
12/25/2012: Jun from Philippines replies: "Hi, Just want to help, the sour taste is caused by maybe Gastric Acid, I experienced that before as well as Halitosis, what I did was I went to a Doctor "Gastro" for medication, they gave me anti acid medicine, try consulting a Doctor first. Hope this helps."
06/21/2009: Rich from Boca Raton, Fl: "I've experimented with the white tongue for 6 months. Tried:
1. Honey. No success.
2. Salt - strong effect, but no success.
3. Oregano Oil - stings, but no success.
4. Peppermint Oil - failure.
5. Listerine(Eucalptus oil) - failure.
6. Baking Soda - success for 1 day, failure afterwards.
7. Borax - success for 1 day, failure afterwards.
8. Diluted Bleach - turns tounge white, failure.
9. Acidified Bleach - 1/2 cap of bleach plus 2 TBSP ACV. This should create Hypochlorite. Turns toungue whiter. No success. This is supposed to have 10x the killing power of bleach.
10. Olive Oil - this started to turn my teeth yellow. Bad Failure. Candida may feed on the Oleic acid in Olive Oil. I dunno, but I ended this experiment early.
11. Turmeric - partial improvement. Temporary. Turns tounge yellow.
12. Mega-Garlic - partial improvement. Temporary. Tongue turns brown. I got some bloodblisters on the "cheek-gums" where white blisters previously existed. Took a few days. But these multi-month whit cheek blisters actually healed. This one probably works if you're willing to follow it through for a month.
13. Coconut Oil. Partial Success. Assuming it's candida, I will say that this kills the Aeorbic form, and not the Anerobic form. Some of the white stuff instantly disappears, and some doesn't. Coconut oil definitely does something.
14. Vinnegar and Borax mix. This is at least as good as the coconut oil. Two anti-infectives mixed. Success is temporary, but you can prevent any infection from getting worse... at least hold it to a stalemate. There is a commercial drug that uses this (Dermapet). I don't mention the brand name to promote it, but instead to say there is science behind it, and clinical studies, which are listed on the website. On a side note... I have tried three different ACV's, Heinz, Publix, and _____s. I suspect the organic one, braggs, to have live acidophilus whereas the others which were pasteurized don't... as the braggs aftertaste lasted for 24 hours. Most of the white stuff disappears, some of it doesn't.
15. Potassium Iodide(KI) - placed a 64 mg ki pill on the white area of the gum, that wasn't cured by the ACV/Borax mix... cured that area... I'm thinking that's the anerobic form of candida.
16. Providone - once per day - does something. Also turns toungue brown.
17. Providone/Borax mix. The comparable drug is by Frio Technologies. This has clinical trials ongoing, with success on Gingivitis, and ongoing testing for Thrush. Whereas Providone turns your tongue brown, this mix doesn't.
18. Providone - 6x per day. Started this a week ago. I've seen zero yeast in my mouth for a week. Got the blood-blister effect like the garlic (without being smellY). Seen no yeast in my mouth for a week. 1/2 of the top of my tongue turned dark brown. Seems to be scabbing up and healing. No need for the tongue scraper any more. I think I have a cure, but need more time (wait for the scabs to heal).
A healthy mouth has 600 different bacteria plus fungus's, virus's, protozoa. Perhaps the definition of healthy mouth is flawed. Something is broken in mine. We'll see if I can fix it. Current Regimin is Coconut oil plus Providone(Iodine).
Iodine supposedly kills 90% of bacteria, disolves starches(yeast), and metals. If you are iodine deficient, which I may be(2 billion people are (WHO), this may help. Bacteria and yeast may reproduce quick so doseage may be small, but frequent(ie every couple hours).
I believe I have a cure, but need more time. Will re-post in 1 week or 2."
07/16/2009: Rich from Boca Raton, Fl replies: "I tried other stuff too, listerine, peroxide, etc...
However, I suspect 4 things... Chloride deficiency, Iodine Deficiency, Potassium Deficiency, Candida/Yeast overgrowth as the root cause. With a high potassium diet, I can turn the tongue red again for a few hours. With a teaspoon of KI, I can do the same thing.
As a high salt diet is the Merck Veterinary Cure for Candida in chickens, I suspect a chloride deficiency may cause gut problems, and yeast overgrowth, and poor digestion.
I've got premature greying, which I suspect may be Iodine deficiency(since I don't eat fish). Iodine kills yeast(and more bacteria than Chlorine).
Potassium deficiency in animals causes the intestines to turn white. I suspect the tongue as well. I suspect it just neutralizes the acids of Bacteria, and without it, they damage you, and stuff turns white do to damage.
With the providone experiment, things are going great. A little slower than I wanted. No yeast in the mouth. Receding Gumlines unreceding. Strange 6 month pimples on the forehead near the hairline, healing. I would recommend this.
However, 1% providone is the minimum concentration to kill alot of bad stuff. Providone usually comes in 10% bottles. Saliva will dilute it. Providone from CVS is different from Providone in Walgreens(other ingredients).
Warning: Too much providone for too long is bad; molecular iodine like molecular chlorine can damage cells at a specific concentration for specific duration... I don't know what this number is though. The iodine is less toxic than chlorine though (both msds and experimentation)."
10/26/2009: Tim from Tucson, Arizona Usa replies: "Have any of the people reporting here with white tongue been exposed to raccoon, or mouse droppings, or have a dog that has been exposed to the droppings? I am thinking that there might be a connection from the intestional issues, Candida, and Baylisascaris procyonis."
EC: For those interested in learning more about Baylisascaris procyonis (roundworm infection of raccoons): http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol8no4/01-0273.htm
[QUESTION] 10/23/2010: Jason from San Jose, Ca replies: "Do you drink the providone iodine or just gargle it?"
12/19/2012: Aliza from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "Cutlured/fermented vegetables like sauerkraut can cure a white tongue in a day!! Take 2 tablespoons to 1/2 cup 2 -3X a day with meals and you'll see the difference immediately! Make sure you buy RAW, LIVE, UNPASTEURIZED sauerkraut sold at health food stores- not the processed kind with no nutrients sold at supermarkets!"
06/06/2009: Freya from Plymouth, England: "White coating on tongue: I tried all of the remedies suggested on this page and none of them worked! I was wondering if it meant baking powder of bicarbonate of soda? Anyway, completely by accident I discovered that if you put a pea sized amount of special tooth and gum toothpaste for treating gum disease on your tongue for a minute, it will give a pink tongue for the day! This is only temporary and it tastes yucky, but it is simple and easy."
EC: In the USA, we call bicarbonate of soda (and not baking powder) "Baking Soda".
Oil Pulling Treatment for a White Tongue
Before brushing your teeth - and with an empty stomach - take one Tablespoon of oil into your mouth and swish it around for 10-20 minutes until the oil has turned milky white. Afterwards, spit all of it out. Almost any food oil will do, but sesame and sunflower oils are traditional to this Ayurvedic remedy and the most popular.
[YEA] 11/26/2007: Sara from Carson City, NV: "I have had a coated tongue for quite some time now. I tried oil pulling two nights ago swishing the oil in my mouth for 20 minutes. After I spit and brushed my teeth my tongue was bright pink. I couldn't believe it! Thank You"Replies
05/23/2008: Daniel from Chicago, Illinois replies: "Just wanted to ask what oil you used for the oil pulling to the person who said that it got rid of his/her white tongue"
11/06/2008: Sara from Carson City, NV replies: "high quality sesame oil (not toasted)"
[YEA] 05/05/2009: Andrew from Wilmington, USA replies: "I just tried using the sesame seed oil...20 minutes seemed awfully long, but it seems to have worked. The only downside was holding it in for 20 minutes, and preventing myself from throwing up. The texture and taste was...well, not good."
11/13/2009: 2much from San Francisco, California, Usa replies: "Hello, I was reading the comments on Oil Pulling and I am interested in trying it. But what is it? and How do I try it? Thanks is advance."
EC: All about Oil Pulling here: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/oil_pulling.html
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] firstname.lastname@example.org from Minneapolis, Minnesota: "I found this site because I was searching for a rememdy for the whiteness on my tounge. I struggled with the idea of OP for about a week and decided to do it. The first time I did it I did it for 20 minutes, but immediatly noticed my tounge was nice and pink again. The second day and beyond (now on my 5th day), i got a cold sore which I get very infrequently,and I also would get weird headaches too, so I hope it is s good sign. It is one of the worst cold sores I have ever had BTW, and I also felt real sick for a little while and sluggish.It almost feels like things are trying to leave my body. I am going to keep it up and see what develops, and will post my results later."Replies
06/21/2009: chris from shreveport, la/usa replies: "it sounds like you are having a healing crisis. which means your body is detoxing. congrats!"
06/09/2011: Sophia from Hoffman Estates, Illinois replies: "I'm not trying to be rude but your cold sore sounds coincidental to your tongue issue. Due to your symptoms of sluggishness, headache, and feeling lousy, along with the cold sore, it unfortunately sounds like herpes type 1. You should see a doctor."
01/28/2013: Maximac from Trussville, Alabama, USA replies: "Sounds like you're having die off effects of probable candida overgrowth. I've experienced that as well. We'll say "good riddance!""