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Thyroid Remedies
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COCONUT OIL
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[YEA] 07/14/2007: Andrea from las vegas, nevada writes: "I have been battling hypothyroidism for 8 yrs now, i gained 82 lbs over the yrs,diet after diet failed umtil i started on coconut oil and let me tell you that in 2 months of taking coconut oil combined with a low carb diet, i have lost 35 lbs feel great energetic again, on my way of losing all the weight i plan to lose an aditional 40 lbs by december since i"ve taking the coconut oil softgels i have not had any side effect coconut oil is the miracle oil but again combined with a low carb diet."
Replies09/07/2011: Karen from Corinth, Tx replies: "How much coconut oil did you take?"
01/03/2012: Rebecca from Weatherford, Texas/usa replies: "Hi Andrea - on those Coconut oil soft geltabs how many did you start with and how many do you continue to take today? I am hypo as well (12 years) and have the geltabs -- don't want to take 4 though unless necessary. Have heard should start slow and ramp up? Thanks!"
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[YEA] 07/12/2007: Deborah from Denison, TX writes: "I have read a lot of the comments about the VCO and its problems. i have been taking VCO & ACV (Read my testimonial) for over 10 years. In addition to both of these natural cures I also take 1/2 lemon & 1 tbsp. of Sea Salt each day with 8 oz. of warm water. This lemon/sea salt drink is a natural cleanser for your liver & digestive tract. If anyone is scared of the VCO causing liver problems then this might benefit them. The VCO does give you a oily discharge and gas but the benefits far outweigh the negative. I have taken several body cleanses and the natural, cheap and easiest way to do a body cleanse is to take the VCO twice daily (I mix mine with vanilla yogurt) and you will dispel the parasites that cause illnesses and clean your intestinal tract that when old food is not dispelled causes diseases. I do the lemon drink first thing then my VCO with yogurt and then my ACV & water and I am ready with so much energy to start my day. I have my thyroid and weight under control due to this regimen.
I also use VCO instead of body lotion or hair conditioner. I had very dry hair, skin and cuticles due to a thyroid problem but once I started the VCO it went away. I also make a VCO & Sea Salt scrub that does double duty because it opens your pores of the skin to dispel toxins and softens your skin. I am a 48 year old red head grandmother that looks in her 30's because of this great oil. I have 3 incurable diseases that I take no medication for except for my thyroid medication and my dosage keeps getting smaller & smaller each time my blood work is done.
I have found many cures for illnesses that are natural and have not been to a doctor in 4 years except for my yearly Lupus physical."
Replies11/30/2010: Bilja from Toronto, Ontario replies: "Greeting. Thanks for sharing your experience. It is quite motivating. Just a question, mostly hear ACV should be taken prior to meal. Is it OK to have yogurt&VCO first? What would be difference if taken other way around? Thanks"
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[YEA] 06/23/2007: Rischa from Seattle, wa writes: "I started taking it because I read it could help regulate my thyroid. Even tho medicated for my hypothyroid, I continue to have symptoms. I began coconut oil and found I had to reduce my levothyroxine by 1/3 2 weeks after starting taking about 3 tbsp daily. I am hoping it will continue to get better!"
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[YEA] 04/26/2007: Sue from Orrtanna, PA writes: "My daughter and I are experimenting with the coconut oil and have seen some great results immediately. Her thyroid is working at 20 percent and the swelling is already going down after one week. I am taking it for the overall effects and also an organic liquid vitamin and am feeling great and have more energy. There are some small spots that look like melanoma from the sun and I'm putting the oil directly on them. I'm hoping to see results from that. Will keep you posted. I'm so happy we came across this. It's also helped with a very sensitive stomach."
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[YEA] 04/06/2007: Christine from San Diego, California writes: "I have been suffering with the symptoms describing hypothyroidism. Last week I started the EVCO and added the ACV, of course, decided to throw in the molasses. I will keep you all posted on my progress, trying to feel better and lose the 40 pounds I have picked up. Today I write because I have come up with a great drink. It kills two birds with one stone. Here goes: ONE LARGE MUG 2 BAGS OF LIPTON CARMEL TRUFFLE TEA ONE TBSP EVCO [Extra Virgin Coconut Oil] ONE TBPS BLACK STRAP MOLASSES ONE HALF TO ONE TBSP HONEY POUR BOILING WATER OVER THE INGREDIENTS IN MUG AND STIR GENTLY WHILE STEEPING TO MELT THE COCONUT OIL.
I could not stand the taste of the molasses, however it is so yummy in this tea. Hope you like it. I have noticed since the evco and acv that like most everyone else, my ENERGY has soared, skin soft, body temp up, hair and nails gowing, dry seriously cracking heels softer and healing (using oil dirrectly) no more claritin, sleeping better, brighter outlook. This is only my seventh day. At first I seemed to gain a little weight, but just today I noticed the scale is down 1 pound. I am keeping at it and will keep you posted."
Replies10/18/2010: Sue from Bellbrook, Oh replies: "You mentioned using ACV but it is not in the tea recipe. When do you take it - and are you mixing it with anything? Thanks! "
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[YEA] 02/25/2007: Carolyn from Lorain, OH writes: "I have been taking virgin coconut oil for eight months now because I read it will help regulate my thyroid. I am hyper-thyroid and have been on medication for the past four years.Last month I stopped my meds. because I was told my thyroid is in remission now. I believe the oil is what helped me."
Replies04/02/2011: Rachel from Regina, Sk, Canada replies: "Hi Carolyn, that is awesome! Congratulations and that is very encouraging! Thanks for sharing! Yesterday my doctor suggested stopping Tapazole for awhile since I had restarted last Friday and was getting heart racing, and thyroid pain, and have a physical assessment coming up re. a car accident, which I need to be healthy for. I have been hyperthyroid as well. I was off work for a year with it. Now much better, Thank God!Now I was wondering what to substitute or try in place of the Tapazole. I have been taking motherwort tincture, and also a mixture of motherwort and three other herbs, in Genestra's Motherwort Combination #3. That has been quite helpful! But not helpful enough I guess, as my levels still went up when I was on it.
Yes, but now I would like to try coconut oil, which I had started a month ago, and stopped, although I liked the taste and it felt so good in my stomach. And my hair and skin felt softer.
So, could you tell me how much coconut oil you took, and at what level were your thyroid levels? My TSH was at .01 last I checked; .025 3 weeks before, when I went off the Tapazole. And my Free T4 at 28 last I checked, and at 20 the previous time. So I'd like to know how much you took, and how much it helped you so I can figure out how much I should take.
Thanks a lot! Rachel in Canada."
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[YEA] 02/22/2007: Linda from Orlando, FL writes: "Hypothyroid / Coconut Oil: I suffer from hypothyroid and have taken levoxyl for about 7 years. I also have suffered with fatigue for most of my 47 years for a wide variety of reasons (anemia, depression, hypothyroid, sleep apnea, RLS). It seems I have every condition that can rob one of sleep and energy. Anyway, I was looking for a natural form of thyroid support and came upon information about coconut oil being helpful (about two weeks ago). I just found this wonderful site this week, which I intend to frequent OFTEN, and I thought I'd contribute my experience with coconut oil. So far (2 weeks) I have a bit more energy. I have gained about 8 pounds since January (I tend to be slim), which I want to lose. I hope the energy helps the weight loss. I'll keep you posted."
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[YEA] 01/16/2007: Charlene from Jamaica, NY writes: "My co-worker introduced me to Coconut Oil. I suffer from dry skin and Thyroid problems. I must admit it has made a major difference in my life! I take it orally every morning and I have noticed a healthy, glowing complexion on my face. I also use it on my skin and I cook with it as well. My overall feeling of using CO is very good because I believe that I've felt healthier since taking it!"
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[YEA] 01/13/2007: Michelle from Rock Springs, WY writes: "I had a low functioning thyroid, very dry hair and skin. Since taking the Virgin Coconut Oil I no longer need my thyroid meds. My hair is soft and silky and my skin has dramatically improved. I cook with it and I also put it on my face 2x per day. What a miracle, I have also noticed an increase in energy. Other cure I found for it was diaper rash. My baby had a really bad rash while teething, her bottom would bleed and none of the creams at the store seemed to do anything at all, so I tried the coconut oil and with one application her bottom cleared up dramatically and the next day it was completely gone!"
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[YEA] 06/20/2006: Rosemarie from Salem, OH writes: "I take Virgin Coconut Oil for thyroid function. It has cured flaky skin, cholesterol, glucose. I dropped almost 10 points on glucose, my skin is so soft I feel new! My good cholesterol was raised by 10 points, also. I am careful to take this everyday at the same time, with the same amount ingested (1 Tablespoon). I have never experienced any of the problems reported. It has made my skin so soft that my husband has to touch me all the time!! He can't believe the difference! I have always been very careful of eating right and exercising--this fits right in with my other regimes."
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[YEA] 05/07/2006: Geri from Monrovia, CA writes: "I know among many other things that pure Virgin Coconut oil helps thyroid, regulates body temp. Tropical Traditions website has the best info, product, and prices as well as giving the money from sales to the islanders who actually produce it. I provide health product recommendations to people and this is one of my top items, along with Apple Cider Vinegar."
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ELIMINATE SOY
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[YEA] 03/01/2009: Jeanine from Traverse City, Michigan writes: "HI, JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY STORY WHICH DEVELOPED A YEAR AGO. I WENT TO FLA FOR THE WINTER TO HELP MY AUNT AND UNCLE . THEY EAT TONS OF SOY PRODUCTS AND I BEGAN TO EAT WITH THEM. AFTER TWO MONTHS MY HEART BEGAN TO RACE , MY SKIN BECAME DRY, I WAS CONSTIPATED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, MY HAIR STATED TO FALL OUT, I FELT LIKE I HAD A LUMP IN MY THROAT AND I HAD TO COUGH EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE TO CLEAR IT AND I HAD PAIN IN MY NECK AREA OFF AND ON ALL THE TIME. IN THE SUMMER I RETURN TO MICHIGAN BECAUSE MY FATHER WAS ILL. I WENT THROUGH TWO MONTHS OF RACING HEART BEATS ONE DAY THE NEXT DAY FEELING LIKE A MACK TRUCK RAN ME OVER AND THAN ABOUT A WEEK LATER MY HEART WOULD SKIP BEATS FOR 48 HOURS. I WOULD FEEL BETTER FOR A FEW DAYS AND THAN ANOTHER ATTACK OF RACING HEART BEATS....ETC.. THIS WENT ON BACK AND FORTH. WHEN MY HEART WAS RACING I FELT HYPER MY BASAL TEMPERATURE WAS 98.6. ON THE DAYS MY HEART WAS SKIPPING BEATS MY BASAL TEMPERATURE WAS 97 AND I COULD NOT GET WARM. I BECAME VERY SCARED AND WENT TO A DOCTOR BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HAD HEART PROBLEMS. I HAD A BLOOD TEST DONE EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL BUT IT SHOWED I HAD BOTH ANTIBODIES AND THE DOCTOR DIAGNOISED ME WITH HASHIMOTO'S AND SAID I SHOULD BEGIN THYROID IMMEDIATELY. I TOLD HER I WAS GOING TO TRY ALTERNATIVE FIRST. I ASKED HER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THE DAYS MY IMMUNE SYSTEM ATTACK MY THYROID IF ON THAT MORNING I ALSO TOOK THYROID MED. I PICTURED MY HEART EXPLODING. SHE COULDN'T ANSWER THAT SO I WAITED AND BEGAN MY OWN RESEARCH.
FIRST I STOPPED ALL SOY PRODUCTS. I HAD TO BE REAL CAREFUL WITH THIS BECAUSE I QUICKLY REALIZED THAT TO INGEST EVEN A LITTLE SOY THAT MAY BE HIDDEN IN BREAD ETC GAVE ME A VIOLENT REACTION.I BEGAN TO READ LABELS VERY CAREFULLY. BY THE WAY OUR FOOD IS INVADED BY SOY. AFTER STOPPING SOY MY THYROGLOBULIN AB ANTIBODY BECAME NORMAL IN TWO MONTHS AND IS STIIL NORMAL 8 MONTHS LATER. I DECIDED TO STOPPED EATING ALL FOODS THAT DECREASE THYROID PRODUCTION KNOW AS GOITROGENS , TO GO ON A GLUTEN FREE DIET AND I ALSO STOPPED DAIRY PRODUCTS BECAUSE OF THE CASEINS. EVERY DAY I TAKE SELENIUM, AND BECAUSE I DRANK REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER ALL MY LIFE AND WANTED TO GET MORE MINERALS I BOUGHT A WATER FILTER FROM AQUASANA THAT DOES NOT REMOVE THE MINERALS. I HAD QUESTIONED HAULING AND STORING THE REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER IN PLASTIC CONTAINERS THAT I WAS FILLING AT THE HEATH FOOD STORE. PCBS CAN LEACH INTO THE WATER AND PCBS DAMAGE THE THYROID GLAND. I GOT RID OF ALL MY PLASTIC CONTAINERS IN MY HOUSE AND REPLACED THEN WITH HEALTHY GLASS CONTAINERS.I ALSO MADE SURE I GOT 150 MCG OF IODINE A DAY AND IF I TOOK MORE THAN THAT I FELT HEPER THAT DAY. I DON'T HAVE HEART RACING BUT IT MADE ME NERVOUS, SO I AM CAREFUL WITH THE IODINE. I KNOW PEOPLE IN JAPAN GET ABOUT 12.5 MG IODINE A DAY .... BUT THINK ABOUT THIS...... HASHIMOTO'S DISEASE WAS DISCOVERED IN JAPAN AND JAPANESE PEOPLE EAT LOTS OF GOITROGENS IN THEIR DIET INCLUDING SOY WHICH CAUSE THE THYROID NOT TO ABSORB IODINE SO THAT IS WHY THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH THE AMOUNT OF IODINE THEY GET FROM EATING LOTS OF SEAWEED.
IN ANY CASE WHEN I STOPPED ALL GOITROGENS AND BEGAN IODINE THE PAIN IN MY NECK AREA COMPLETELY STOPPED WITHIN 24 HOURS AND HAS NOT RETURNED.I HAD ALSO BEGAN TO FEEL PAIN IN MY BREAST WHICH ALSO DISAPPEARED. I FELT GREAT ON 150/MCG A DAY. DURING THIS TRANSITION SINCE I MADE ALL THESE CHANGES MY TEST RESULTS ARE ALL NORMAL EXCEPT MY TPO AB IS STILL A LITTLE HIGH BUT EVERY TWO MONTHS IT DROPS 20 POINTS. IT WAS 141 AND NOW IT IS 120. I AM SURE IT WILL CONTINUE TO DROP UNTIL IT IS NORMAL. I AM FEELING SOOO MUCH BETTER. MY BASAL TEMPERATURE IS 98.2 EVERY MORNING.
FINALLY AFTER 10 MONTHS OF THIS WHOLE PROGRESS AND CHANGES I FOUND AN ALTERNATIVE HEALER IN MY AREA. HE WAS AMAZED BY MY PROGRESS AND THE DECISIONS I HAD TAKEN. HE SUGGESTED I ADD A HOMEOPHATHIC REMEDY CALLED THYROIDINUM 30X 2 PILLS 3 TIMES A DAY. I AM DOING THIS AND REALLY FEEL I AM ALMOST 100% HEALED. WHEN I THINK BACK TO THOSE TIMES MY HEART WAS ACTING UP SO BADLY I KNOW MY METABOLISUM WAS REALLY IN BAD SHAPE. I FEEL THE MAJOR CAUSE WAS THE SOY. IT TURNS OUT I AM ALLERGIC TO SOY, BUT EVEN SO 1/4 CUP OF SOY MILK WILL CAUSE THE TYHROID IN AN NON-ALLERGIC INDIVIDUAL TO WORK 50% LESS FOR 24 HOURS. I ALSO THINK IF YOU EAT A GOTEIREN TYPE FOOD ON THOSE DAYS AND MAYBE A FEW DAYS AFTERWARDS IT WOULD BE WISE TO INCREASE IODINE BUT THAN GO BACK TO A STARDARD DOSAGE. EVERY NIGHT BEFORE I RETIRE I TAKE 1/2 TEASPOON OF MAGNISIUM CITRATE IN A GLASS OF WATER THIS HEALS ME SLEEP LIKE A BABY. I HOPE MY EXPERIENCE CAN HELP SOMEONE OUT THERE. IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION ON ANY CHANGE I MADE IN MY DIET JUST GO ON LINE AND LOOK..SOY AND THYROID ,GLUTEN ETC.... THIS IS A GREAT SIGHT TO READ ALL ABOUT IT AS WELL.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL .....JEANINE."
Replies02/11/2010: Anna from Philadelphia, Usa replies: "For more than 10 years now I have been drinking soybean almost everyday, and eating tofu now and then, and my heart ]is ok, so is my thyroid and blood pressure. Seems that everyone is different.... Are you sure it is because of soy?Yes, maybe soy is not that healthy as soy industry tells us but maybe it is also not that bad as the competetive industries try to make us believe."
02/11/2010: Rob from Manhattan, New York replies: "could be an individual allergy or ?? but societies who consume whole soy as a regular staple, (Japan) seem to reap many health benefits as a result...there isn't an epidemic of thyroid problems. I beleive many in this society would do much better to substitute meat for whole soy. Natto being my favorite, though an acquired taste, has numerous health benefits...especially for those concerned about osteoporosis... I would eliminate non-stick pans & plastics & other chemical exposures first."
03/13/2010: Catherine from Wellington, New Zealand replies: "With regard to the Japanese "consuming" soy, it is my understanding that they only consume soy products that have undergone fermentation to remove the toxins..eg tofu, tempeh, soy sauce..Apparently they do not consume the beans themselves. The same in China though I have read that in very poor parts of China where the beans are consumed there is a very high rate of cretinism."
EC: For those that are interested in further research on Cretinism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretinism
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GENERAL FEEDBACK
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11/21/2011: Thyroids from Ab, Canada writes: "Hello I have been on eltroxin for 17 years for my thyroids and have been on iron medication from the doctor for 12 years. I had my blood analyzed at a heath food store and her advice was to get off my iron pills that I was on from the docs because she said that it is not being absorbed into my blood, so now I am on easy iron from the heath food store for 3 years. So would it be a good or bad idea that I start to take acv? If it's ok, then what should my intake be for the day and the dosage and which way would better benefit my condition? Thanks"
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10/06/2011: Laura from Orlando, Fl writes: "Thank you Maria and Elly for your response. I really do appreciate it. To answer your questions Elly - Yes I have considered using almond butter as a replacement and also, the peanut in question is not organic. One thing I know for sure now is that I am going to say no to peanuts/ peanut butter in the future."
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10/05/2011: Laura from Orlando, Fl writes: "Hi Everyone, I have noticed that whenever I eat too much peanut butter, all my hypothyroid symptoms seems to reappear. Can anyone tell me if peanut butter affects the thyroid in a negative way and therefore should I stay away from it? Thank you everyone for your prompt response."
Replies10/06/2011: Maria from Gippsland, Australia replies: "Hi Laura, Peanuts are on some lists as a goitrogen food, although it is said that if these foods are cooked they loose it. Peanut butter is usually hydrogenated so it is not good unless it is the non-hydrogenated version. If your symptoms are getting worse when you eat it then I would not have it as a regular food and have it as a treat food. I do not know what is used to kill or prevent molds from forming on the peanuts but maybe (and I stress maybe) the chemical/s that are used are displacing your iodine. So it would be worth looking at supplementing with some iodine if you are not already. All the best."
10/06/2011: Elly from Topeka, Kansas replies: "Hi Laura, I remember reading about this before that peanut butter contains goitrogens which can slow the thyroid down. Cooking goitrogen foods like soy and cruciferous vegetables (e. G. Broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, etc) is said to remove most of the goitrogen effects. Are you eating raw peanut butter or peanut butter made from roasted peanuts? Roasted nuts should have very little goitrogens. Of course, some people can be more sensitive than others. Is it organic peanut butter? Non-organic has a lot of pesticides that can affect people too. Have you considered almond butter?"
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08/01/2011: Mermaid13 from Asheville, North Carolina writes: "Just received a call today from my doctor. She stated that she needed to increase my levothyroxin medication from 200 mcg to 300 mcg. I was wondering if this is normal as I usually was only increased by 25 mcg increments? Also, what should I expect and what can I do to help myself?"
Replies08/01/2011: Cheryl from Blaine, Mn replies: "Levothyroxin is not a good drug. It is also not usual to increase a dose that much that quickly. I would certainly want to know why the doctor is suggesting that large of an increase. levothyroxin has a lot of problem with the time release not working well. Meaning that you get surges of the medication rather than a slow dose throughout the day. A lot of generic drugs have problems with the time release element of the medication. I would ask to be placed on synthroid, the trademark med, if your insurance carries it and you can afford it. The doctor can write out a prescription to state that you cannot take generic if your insurance requires that. Good luck."
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04/13/2011: Mary B. from Sandpoint, Idaho, Usa writes: "I am female, 49, and have been oil pulling for about two and a half weeks. My positive experience with oil pulling has been a definite clearing of sinuses. I have always been a mouth breather and now find that I can breath through my nose. In the past, I felt as if I was not getting enough air when breathing through my nose.
Last Tuesday (day 10) I woke up with a swollen thyroid on the right hand side of my neck. Blood tests show my thyroid function is fine. Ultrasound shows that several nodes on the left side of my thyroid are swollen as well. Docs are not worried about the large swollen node on the right but are concerned about the smaller ones on the right that are considerd complex - part liquid, part solid. Any chance the oil pulling could have triggered this?
They took more blood yesterday and are running additonal tests. My liver function is also normal.
Thanks! Mary B."
Replies04/14/2011: Denice from Knoxville, Tn replies: "Was wondering if you found out oil pulling had anything to do with swollen thyroid. I have been oil pulling for about 3 weeks and noticed a swollen thyroid. Blood test for thyroid came out normal. Had an ultrasound today but will not find out results until next week. Thanks"
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03/24/2011: Loren from Queens, Ny writes: "Hi everyone: Has anyone heard of a product called Chinese bitters and if so does anyone know if its safe for thyroid patients? Thanks everyone for yr comments. God bless"
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03/23/2011: Tiamat from Cypress, Tx, Usa writes: "I have been doing hardcore UT for about 3 months. When I say hardcore, I mean drinking almost all of it everyday. Before that I drank about 8 0z. Three times a day for three months. I was on 180 mg of Armour thyroid for 15 years. I am 42.
After about a month on the "hardcore" regimen, all of my chronic fatigue, achiness, and all the rest of the stuff that comes with chronic illness disappeared. I started having a reaction to my Armour and started cutting back on it. I felt better than I ever had. In about a month I was off of my medicine completely and felt great. About a week after going off of it I started having the worst pms ever, followed by a horrible period, cramps, migraine, the works. I decided to wait a couple of weeks to get my thyroid checked so it could regulate.
I waited three weeks and have felt pretty bad the last two. I got my TSH tested yesterday and it was 11.5.
Needless to say, I am dismayed because I thought the UT was helping my thyroid. Also, I am afraid if I go back on my full dose I won't be able to tolerate it. What I experienced before was chest pains, jumpiness, general hyperthyroid symptoms that went away when I cut down the meds. This is very confusing for me because I have an 18 year old son with a low thyroid too and he is about a month behind me on the UT. He also had the same experience with intolerance to his Synthroid and has been off of it for two days. He feels great but is now worried that his will go back down. I didn't have it tested when I was cutting back, I only went on how I felt. Has anyone had experiences like this? I would really appreciate any insights."
Replies03/24/2011: Linda from York County, Maine replies: "Hi Tiamat, I have no experience with UT but have been on over 200 mcg of Levothyroxine or Synthroid for several years; at one time, I decided to stop taking it and felt fantastic for about a week..... When I started feeling bad and began the meds again, it took a couple of weeks to feel better. You and your son, Please be careful."
03/30/2011: Tiamat from Cypress, Tx replies: "Thanks Linda, I'm going to get my son retested in about a week. I'm back on my full dose and also trying bentonite clay with the UT. We shall see what happens."
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[QUESTION] 02/16/2010: Darlene from Wasilla, Alaska writes: "Do thyroid problems have any link to hair color dyes? A lot of persons use it and head of hair is close to thyroid gland. Any correlation?"
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10/15/2009: Loren from Queens, Ny writes: "This message is for Joyce from Joelton, Tn: i am hypothyroid and since my diagnosis 3 months ago, I have noticed a sudden appearance of liver spots on my back. Would you know if this is related to poor thyroid function? Also, After about 2 months on thyroid meds, i also notice a sudden rash on my arms/ tummy. Could the meds have something to do with this? Hope to hear from you soon. I would have asked my doctor but I am not due to see her until the end of this month. Any feedback you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thank you and God bless."
Replies10/16/2009: T from Maryland, Usa replies: "I'm not Joyce but I hope you don't mind the reply. May I ask what meds you're taking? I've read that too much thyroid hormone can cause a rash.
Have you been checked for thyroid antibodies? With the rash and the spots, it might be a good idea to get those tested. TPOAb and TgAB are the tests you'd want."
10/18/2009: Loren from Queens, Ny replies: "Hi T: Thks for responding to my query. To answer yr question, I am currently on T3 (5mcg) and T4 (16mcg). I usually get these from a compounding pharmacy and my pharmacist says that they are plant based. He also did mention that it is a very small dose. Thats why I didn't think it might be too much meds. As for the antibodies test I had those and it was elevated but very slightly. Its been about 3 months since my diagnosis so I am kind of new to this. Any advice would be helpful."
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[QUESTION] 01/10/2009: Ann from Dothan, AL,USA writes: "My problem started two years ago, and the Doctors have yet to find out what causes it. They put me on Zebeta, it was to keep me from having the rapid forceful heartbeats, but I still have them about ever 4 months, My doctor tells me that I now need to go on Synthroid because my TSH has gone from 4 to 9.11 in two years. I took a lot of research to my last appointment in which he was not really interested in. I told him I had all the symptoms of hyperthyroidism, but he is telling me I am Hypothyroidism because my TSH going from 4.0 to 9.11 in two years. I ask him about Adrenal and he just ignored me basically, I have been to several doctors and none of them can help me. I had one tell be that medicine was not a perfect science. He was actually the only doctor I liked he would atleast listen. but he is hard to ge an appointment with. The clinic I go to has 7 doctors and you never know which one you will actually get to see, if you need on right away. I read the article about putting the iodine (which I do have lugols) and am going to see what happens with that. I was wondering if anyone had tried Natrabio Thyroid Support and if it had helped anyone. I bought some and have planned to try it. I also bought natrabio adrenal support and was wondering if anyone had tried that. I have tried to find a certified Natrapathic doc in my area and can not find one as of yet. Please help if you have any information. (in the past two years I also had a web grow accross the top of my esphogus. which my GI doc says is rare, has anyone had this problem. i am hoping I don't have that problem anymore. but I still have the rapid forceful heartbeat probelm. I have found that a few sips of apple cider vinigar during one of thes epesiodes seems to start the heart to slow down about the time the ambulance gets to my house but during this rapid forceful heartbeatt my blood pressure rises very high. when the ambulance got to my house the other night my bloods pressure had slowed down to 210/110 and my heart beat had slowed down to 110. I am about stressed out about it all.
ANN "
01/11/2009: Joyce from Joelton, Tn replies: "To Ann from Dothan, Al.
Hello Ann, Sorry you are having those palpitation problems, but start paying attention to what you are eating or drinking within a few hours of them starting. Our processed foods are heavily laden with monosodium glutamate and aspartame, both excitotoxins known to cause palpitatations, panic attacks, mood swings, seizures,brain tumors, brain cancers, parkinsons disease, alzherimers disease, Lou Gehrigs disease, among other things.
Magnesium is another mineral that has a lot to do with blood pressure & heart rate control. To build yours up, start taking about 500 mgm 2/day orally, but I would also be putting a cup of epsom salts in my bath water daily to bring it up without flushing it right through
the GI tract, thanks to its laxative properties.
That lugol's should help on the low thyroid, but so would a kelp supplement. Another thing your thyroid needs to operate properly is a good supply of the B complex vitamins. Get you a good B l00 complex to take daily or even better get a good stress tablet (Bcomplex + vitamins C & E) and take one at meal time & bedtime. This should give that thyroid what it needs to function properly.
To get an idea of your MSG/aspartame intake go to that page in EC & print out the list of names they hide MSG under, Take that into your kitchen and start reading ingredients list on everything in there that goes into your GI tract. I'll bet if you tossed out everything containing either or both, you wouldn't have much left in there, because it is hard to find any broth, bouillon, sauce, salad dressing, ketchup, or even raw meats without those natural flavors, natural flavorings, hydrolyzed plant proteins, or lately just (pea, corn, soy, etc) plant proteins."
01/11/2009: T from Maryland, USA replies: "I'm sorry I have no input on the supplements you mentioned, but I would strongly suggest blood testing for TPO and antithyroglobulin antibodies. Having symptoms of both hyper- and hypothyroidism could mean Hashimoto's, an autoimmune disorder in which your own system attacks the thyroid. Elevated antibodies are a good indicator of Hashimoto's. Unfortunately, when you have doctors already ignorant of thyroid disease, they're likely going to be even worse when it comes to Hashimoto's. For the longest time I figured I couldn't have thyroid disease as I am not overweight (everything I had heard seemed to mention weight problems for thyroid patients) and I had symptoms of both hyper and hypo, which I didn't know could be possible. It was only when I finally became devastatingly ill that I started researching and began realizing what was going on. After being brushed off despite dozens of symptoms and family history of thyroid disease, I got my own blood work done and diagnosed myself. It took over $2000 out of my pocket to get the quacks to give me an $11 bottle of medicine I had told/shown them I needed from the start. Ridiculous!!
Many doctors are appallingly ignorant of thyroid disease (a good read around thyroid forums will show you just how epidemic, entrenched, and damaging that ignorance is). My own struggle with this is how I became interested in natural medicine in the first place. It's what made me realize what uncaring, arrogant, ignorant moneysuckers too many in the medical profession are. Not all are that way, but sadly I haven't seemed to find one of the good ones for myself as yet.
My synthetic med (Levoxyl) has helped some, but I am still nowhere near up to par despite adding in excellent dietary changes and vitamins, etc. I'd like to try Armour natural thyroid medication, but they just won't listen (apparently quite the big pharma influence there; they have absolutely no other reason not to let me try it). Your quality of life means nothing to them; in fact, any problems you have after they medicate you their way must all be "in your head". As you found, that one single lab number (TSH) is the entire picture as far as they are concerned. Nothing could be further from the truth. Thyroid problems can be highly complex and are not "one size fits all" by a long shot. Do some research around the web as it's just too big a topic to really cover here, but the bottom line is get tested for those antibodies and see if you do have Hashi's - and if they won't test, there are online labs where you can order them for yourself, as I did. You should also have Free T3 and Free T4 tested. Take those results in with some good research backing you up and insist on proper treatment. Don't take their word for what is 'normal'; check it out for yourself. Thank God we have the internet to learn for ourselves and share information. You will find thyroid forums extremely helpful, and you might be able to get a recommendation at some for a good doc in your area.
I supplement with calcium/magnesium/D3, and also selenium (I take 100 mcg a day). Selenium supports the thyroid. Magnesium may help with the palpitations (seems to be helping with mine). Make sure you're getting adequate potassium intake; this too will affect the heart. Taking organic unrefined coconut oil (work up slowly to a few spoons a day - see other posts here on that) may also help the thyroid from what I've been reading. I am still looking into iodine and have not tried that yet. As you're having blood pressure problems, be sure to monitor that closely as you try things.
I wish you the very best of luck, and please let us know how it goes!"
01/11/2009: Rosy from Orlando, Fl replies: "A friend of mine used to eat bananas when they felt there heart acting up. She would also eat one if she ran out of meds before she could buy more. I would try a banana once a day and see if that helps. I think it is the potassium in them that effects the heart, but not too much to damage it."
01/13/2009: Robin from Rocky Ridge, Ohio replies: "I've had palpitations off and on for as long as I could remember, but last summer they started happening all day long.
After awhile I started worrying and did some research on the web. What I found was that magnesium deficiency could cause them, so I went out and bought a bottle of Natural Calm Magnesium Citrate that you take at night dissolved in hot water.
The effects were immediate, not only did I fall asleep faster that night, the next day the palpitations were gone. I believe there is some magnesium in ACV and that's why it had a positive effect for you.
The thyroid and the adrenals work hand in hand, all of the endrocrine glands do. They are like dominoes, if one has trouble, others follow suit. I have adrenal fatigue and thyroid resistance and in my research it was said that magnesium was vital to the recovery of adrenal fatigue, as is vitamin C.
I had a tubal ligation, (tubes tied) and that's when a lot of my problems started. The reduced blood flow to the ovaries cause then to shrivel and all but die. The adrenals have to do the work of producing a lot of my female hormones that the ovaries just couldn't handle anymore. This is talked about on the web too. I want to say it's called tubal ligation syndrome but I'm not 100% on that. That plus chronic sinus infections and a very stressful life living with an abusive ex husband was a further drain on my adrenal glands resulting in adrenal fatigue.
For about 100 years Dr.'s used to treat adrenal fatigue with much success using vitamins, mineral, herbs, glandulars, rest and lifestyle changes. At some point, they stopped even teaching about this once cortisone was developed and the result is Dr.'s out there that don't even know this ailment exists or how to treat it. They don't go by symptoms, they go by tests and all they know to test for is the two extremes on the scale, Cushing's disease and Addison's disease, leaving nothing to diagnose in between.
Check out www.adrenalfatigue.org for more information and remedies for this ailment. The book sold on this website and in stores is an excellent source of information.
If you cannot find a Naturopath in your area, often an Environmental Physician will know about the disorder. Some of them know what to do about the thyroid as well.
I also supplement with Lugol's Iodine, kelp or bladderwrack capsules for my thyroid, when I remember that is.
Blessings and goodluck!"
02/24/2009: Ann from Dothan, AL, USA replies: "I appreciate everyone's input on my problem with thyroid and heart palpations, I am going to try some of these suggestions. I have actually started, I will keep you up to date. I did go back for another blood test and my thyroid had dropped from 9.11 to 8.13, I tried to talk to the doc about my concerns, I wanted to try armour thyroid, he would not listen he just upped my mcg of synthroid, which I can't take because it makes me shake all over.. I told my cardiologist and he said that I need to make the doc listen or see someone else. My cardiologist just ran another eco-cardiogram and a stress test, I am waiting on results. I am trying to find a medical/naturopathic doc that I can see. None in my area in a 5 mile radious. still looking though. I am not sure which part of my home remedies that made my TSH drop down to the 8.13 so I am going to keep doing what I am doing and add some of your suggestions. I will keep you all posted.
Dianna from Austin, TX said she took VCO for her thyroid. I was wondering what is VCO?? Thanks Ann from Dothan, AL"
EC: VCO = Virgin Coconut Oil.
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[YEA] 10/06/2008: Neelam from Los Angeles, CA USA writes: "hyperthyroidism: i was devastated when i heard i got grave's disease. After that doctor told me about my different options of treatment. one of them was radioactive iodine. i didn't want any radioactive treatment in me. so i read about bugleweed. i already started to have tachycardia. but after 4 days of this combination of tx. i feel today i am back to myself. give your body some time to heal yourself. they don't work immediately. go for homeopathic. i consulted different homeopathic. homeopathy can eradicate your disease forever, but it takes time."
RepliesEC: Neelam, can you please send us more information about what you took exactly? Was it bugleweed tea or homeopathic remedies containing bugleweed? Thanks!
Information about bugleweed here: http://earthnotes.tripod.com/bugleweed.htm
04/02/2011: Rachel from Regina, Sk, Canada replies: "Hi Neelam and EC, I agree with you: they don't have to take out your thyroid, or irradiate you. That is just silly. I mean unless you have an excessively serious form of it. Removing the thyroid to treat Graves' disease is like punishing the victim. Graves' is a disease where the immune system is working too hard, not an issue with the thyroid, really.I was diagnosed with Graves' in Mar. 09 and was off work from then until Apr. '10 with hyperthyroid symptoms and adrenal fatigue symptoms. I am way way better now, thank God!
Adrenasense is a remedy that supports the adrenals. I take 4 capsules a day: 2 in the morning, and 2 at lunch. This has been a lifeline remedy for me! When I was off work there, for some of the time I could only stay awake one hour and then had to sleep 2 or 3 hours to get my energy back. When I started to take Adrenasense, I was gradually able to do more and more. When I went off it, my energy level went very low. I remember one day after I had run out a week before, it took me 1/2 and hour to walk very slowly across the park to the library becuase I had to stop and rest on 2 park benches and take a nap at a table in the library. That walk usually takes about 5 minutes. It took 2 weeks to get my previous energy back when I started back on the Adrenasense.
Also, a special diet from my naturopath helped immensely: no wheat, dairy, sugar, refined or processed things. Brown rice, freshly cooked veggies and meats. Organic as much as possible. No fruit for the first 2 weeks and then just a few, b/c of the sugar. I felt sooo good on this. I went off it, to go to my cousin's wedding and will get back on later I hope!
I took Tapazole for a long time, and a beta blocker for my heart, which I was very very happy to get off of. I work half time now, and am just tweaking my intake of remedies. I take a motherwort tincture, which you can get, straight, from Wild Woman Herbals, or other companies. And another one from Genestra Brands, Motherwort Combination #3, which my Naturopath had recommended. These helped me a lot! I'm going to try EVCO now, because it sounds promising!
I was on Tapazole for 2 years, down to 1 pill a day from the initial 4, but then stopped it to see how I would do, in January. My levels went up above normal again, even on the motherwort. But not very far up and the only symptom I had was a bit of anxiety. Then I restarted the Tapazole and for some reason started getting palpitations, pain in my thyroid, and a sad, discouraged feeling, which I think is my thyroid reacting to being suppressed. Anyway, I told my doctor about the heart and pain issues and so now I'll stop the Tapazole for a bit, at least, and try the coconut oil and other things.
Now I want to try meditation, really, truly. Before I did it sort of, but now that I am off Tapazole again, I see this is a great opportunity to try connecting with my thyroid and becoming one with it, seeing things from its perspective and then encouraging it to make less hormone, and to feel safe in my body. I do this, connecting to God, asking for God's guidance, and other healing guides. If you want to know how to get into that, you can write to me. My Dad's meditation manual, The Prayer of Silence, will be published in a couple of months, if you want to look at that, too. He discusses basic silence, and advanced inner work in the silence, and how he used meditation to heal his broken back and heal himself from encephalitis, with God's help and also Jesus' inner guidance.
These are some things I suggest. Best wishes!
Oh, have any of you tried THYROSOOTHE? It is a remedy made by a company... It is 37$ on sale! Plus 10 bucks shipping. Is it worth it? The Genestra motherwort combo 3 that I've been taking is only 16$. Can anyone give feedback re. Thyrosoothe? Thank you! Rachel"
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10/17/2011: Scorpioempress from Ridgecrest, Ca, Usa writes: "I am a long time Earth Clinic reader. I started taking Lugol's because my thyroid meds weren't really working, because I was suffering from Candida, and a few other reasons. I have been able to stop my thyroid meds--yay--, but I have noticed that with 2 drops of 2% lugols that I still have thyroid pain.
I need clear dosing instructions. I thought that 2 drops was the maximum, but am reading that you can take as many as 30???? I am tired, cannot produce enough breast milk, and have thyroid pain, to name a few low thyroid symtoms. 2 drops is better than nothing, so can I take more?"
Replies10/17/2011: Maria from Gippsland, Australia replies: "Hi Scorpioempress, I also have read that taking two drops will replenish our supplies but it takes at least a year at this dose plus it was the 5% not the 2% one. Which would mean that you are taking under half the dose. Usually whenever Lugol's iodine is referred to without a percentage it is the 5% one. I don't believe there is one size fits all dose as we come in different sizes and also some of us have been deficient for longer etc. Increasing the dose slowly is what we are doing, we are now at 4 drops (2%) twice a day. As we are seeing some benefits now we will stay at this dose for the time being. You could add a second dose making it 2 drops (2%) twice a day for a week or two then if you still have no detox reactions add another drop.To increase your milk supply try fenugreek it is amazing. You can buy the seeds and soak them overnight or just buy the capsules which is much easier and works. All the best."
10/17/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "In addition to iodine you need to take the companion nutrients as well. The attached link sets out what you need to take with the iodine.http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html
Bill from Philippines on Earthclinic has some great info for the thyroid.
10/17/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Maria, since I have started on iodine, I have been having the most amazing dreams... They seem to be very long and very detailed. Are you finding the same thing?"
10/18/2011: Maria from Gippsland, Australia replies: "No Debbie I haven't but my hubby has started to have some dreams and can remember them, he has never had dreams as an adult. Interesting that Australian soils are deficient in iodine and selenium."
10/18/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Hi Maria, yes it is interesting re the soils. I read that Gippsland is particularly deficient in them so you are on the right track!Yes the dreams are amazing, colourful and the storylines amazing. Interesting your husband is also experiencing it. I also found by adding the brazil nuts every day (around 2 nuts) the dreams really started.. I should write them down. Vitamin C before bed does make you dream more as well, but nothing as in depth as I am having now. They seem to go on forever.
Have you had any detox symptoms? I had a few days of headaches and waking up with a metallic taste in my mouth, so I needed to back off a bit and have the salt treatment. But happy because it means it is working."
10/21/2011: Maria from Gippsland, Australia replies: "Hi Debbie, No there have been no detox symptoms partly because we did start slowly with only one drop a day of 2% but also I have now been treating my liver with an ayurvedic product and herbs for two years. I also take magnesium, selenium, vit c & vit d (sunshine exposure)."
11/29/2011: Maria from Gippsland, Australia replies: "Hi Debbie, Well I finally have had some dreams. Hardly remember anything from them though.Have not been well and have had hardly any iodine then started back again on the 4 drops 2% twice a day and the next day went to 3 x a day (= 12 drops) and got the symptoms of a cold, headache and legs starting to swell. Stayed off the iodine (and gave my liver some support) till they went, which was about 4 days for the legs. I guess I have now had some detox reactions. Next time I will start low again after a break.
How is your son going with his speech? I don't know if anyone has suggested signing to you but thought I would mention it."
12/02/2011: Maria from Gippsland, Australia replies: "Hi Debbie, Further to my post to you earlier in the week (re iodine & my dream update) my husband reminded me that his cold feet returned and now that we are back on the iodine his feet are normal again."
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03/12/2011: Bonj from Lock, Il writes: "Hi being treated for reverse T 3 with bioidentical my body gets headaces and feels lousy on it. What can I do to fix this? Is there any danger or side effects with the iodine? My body is so sensitive to some things. Thanks so much. B"
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