Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Brazil Nuts
- Coconut Oil
- Coconut Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar
- Congenital Hypothyroidism
- Emu Oil
- General Feedback
- Hypothyroid Symptoms
- Hypothyroid Tests
- Hypothyroidism and Anemia
- Hypothyroidism and Heredity
- Hypothyroidism and Low Appetite
- Iodine, Dhea
- Iodine, Selenium
- Lugol's Iodine
- Medication Side Effects
- Multiple Remedies
- Over the Counter
- Prescription Medications
- Remedies Needed
- Remove Old Dental Fillings
- Ted's Remedies
- Thyroid Readings
[YEA] 07/14/2007: Andrea from las vegas, nevada: "I have been battling hypothyroidism for 8 yrs now, i gained 82 lbs over the yrs,diet after diet failed umtil i started on coconut oil and let me tell you that in 2 months of taking coconut oil combined with a low carb diet, i have lost 35 lbs feel great energetic again, on my way of losing all the weight i plan to lose an aditional 40 lbs by december since i"ve taking the coconut oil softgels i have not had any side effect coconut oil is the miracle oil but again combined with a low carb diet."
[YEA] 06/23/2007: Rischa from seattle, wa: "coconut oil. I started taking it because I read it could help regulate my thyroid. Even tho medicated for my hypothyroid, I continue to have symptoms. I began coconut oil and found I had to reduce my levothyroxine by 1/3 2 weeks after starting taking about 3 tbsp daily. I am hoping it will continue to get better!"Replies
08/04/2008: Tasha from Saint Cloud, Florida replies: "If, after taking the coconut oil as well as your Hypothyroid meds, (e.g. Synthroid) you start experiencing heart palpitations, it probably means the coconut oil is working and you need to lower your medication. Not to give up the natural coconut oil, the palpitations obviously a sign of over medication as your tsh levels are lowering naturally!"
[WARNING!] 06/07/2007: Janea from Grand Prairie, TX: "I have hypothyroidism. I started taking EVCO. For a week, I was fine. No real improvements noticed. But the second week, I started having heart palpitations. I can only point this to the EVCO. I will go off of it and see it the palpitations stop."Replies
05/31/2010: Brightblueeyes from Roseville, Mi replies: "I'm thinking that Janea from Grand Prairie TX may be having palpitations because the EVCO is working and that her synthroid dosage needs to be lowered as it is not needed as much. When trying natural cures/remedies for something like this levels should be medically monitored more frequently to make sure you aren't getting too much medication."
[YEA] 04/06/2007: Christine from San Diego, California: "I have been suffering with the symptoms describing hypothyroidism. Last week I started the EVCO and added the ACV, of course, decided to throw in the molasses. I will keep you all posted on my progress, trying to feel better and lose the 40 pounds I have picked up. Today I write because I have come up with a great drink. It kills two birds with one stone. Here goes:
ONE LARGE MUG
2 BAGS OF LIPTON CARMEL TRUFFLE TEA
ONE TBSP EVCO [Extra Virgin Coconut Oil]
ONE TBPS BLACK STRAP MOLASSES
ONE HALF TO ONE TBSP HONEY
POUR BOILING WATER OVER THE INGREDIENTS IN MUG AND STIR GENTLY WHILE STEEPING TO MELT THE COCONUT OIL.
I could not stand the taste of the molasses, however it is so yummy in this tea. Hope you like it. I have noticed since the evco and acv that like most everyone else, my ENERGY has soared, skin soft, body temp up, hair and nails gowing, dry seriously cracking heels softer and healing (using oil dirrectly) no more claritin, sleeping better, brighter outlook. This is only my seventh day. At first I seemed to gain a little weight, but just today I noticed the scale is down 1 pound. I am keeping at it and will keep you posted."Replies
05/02/2009: Mystickalwitch from Sarasota, Fl replies: "Greetings....get info - but what is AVO?????? and please provide more info on how you are doing??????"
EC: ACV (not AVO) = Apple Cider Vinegar.
05/12/2009: Donna from Siesta Key, Florida replies: "Blessings Christine, Your drink concoction is absolutely wonderful!!!! I usually do my coconut oil straight and have tried various ways but it always seemed to overpower. This is great - but 1 tea bag is sufficient for me. Thanks again for taking the time to tell us all about it."
[YEA] 02/25/2007: Carolyn from Lorain, OH: "I have been taking virgin coconut oil for eight months now because I read it will help regulate my thyroid.I am hyper-thyroid and have been on medication for the past four years.Last month I stopped my meds.because I was told my thyroid is in remission now.I believe the oil is what helped me."
[YEA] 02/22/2007: Linda from Orlando, FL: "Hypothyroid / Coconut Oil: I suffer from hypothyroid and have taken levoxyl for about 7 years. I also have suffered with fatigue for most of my 47 years for a wide variety of reasons (anemia, depression, hypothyroid, sleep apnea, RLS). It seems I have every condition that can rob one of sleep and energy. Anyway, I was looking for a natural form of thyroid support and came upon information about coconut oil being helpful (about two weeks ago). I just found this wonderful site this week, which I intend to frequent OFTEN, and I thought I'd contribute my experience with coconut oil. So far (2 weeks) I have a bit more energy. I have gained about 8 pounds since January (I tend to be slim), which I want to lose. I hope the energy helps the weight loss. I'll keep you posted."
Coconut Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 12/02/2013: Dee from Melbourne: "Hi am 38 years old on thyroxine for the last 8 years. Ihave been feeling very tired and irratable lately . After reading many post about coconut oil and apple cider vinegar I myself sees difference in my health after starting as in am feeling not as tired and less irratable.
Even though my thyroid report according to doc to its all good and wants me to continue take 150 ug everyday . But I don't feel good and want it addd some supplements to support my thyroid function . I will continue taking coconut oil and apple cider vinegar everyday but also want to add kelp too. But after reading many sites it found that it can be full of toxin but it says pottasium iodide is very safe to take it
So my question is how much pottasium Iodide to take it everyday and where to buy in Australia and which brand? And also does It actually help thyroid or kelp is better option
Please help me I want to feel good and energetic since I have kids to chase after. Will be very grateful if someone could help me. Thank you for reading. Waiting for HELP."Replies
12/02/2013: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa replies: "Dear Dee,
Glad to hear that the ACV and coconut oil are helping. I find them helpful, too.
Regarding kelp versus potassium iodide....well, I have tried both in my family. The thing is that if you are truly deficient in iodine, which so many of us are, you would need a lot of kelp to get the amount needed. I don't personally notice much difference when I take kelp. But some do.
I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism a few years ago. I took a very small dose of levothyroxine and it made me feel much worse. (But my doctor assured me that I was better since my labwork looked good.) Well, I ended up going off the medication and trying natural stuff. It took some time but I did find things that helped me. ACV and coconut oil being some of them. But potassium iodide made the biggest difference for me. I take Iodoral (the pill form of Lugol's.) I take 1 12.5 mg tablet a day (12.5 iodine/potassium iodide.) Iodine supplements should be taken with Selenium and B-complex. Some also include vitamin C.
If you take some time to read people's stories on Earth Clinic's Iodine page and Hypothyroid page, you can read a lot about what people do and what helps. The one thing is that different things help different people. Some feel a lot better taking iodine. Others do not.
You may find that you need less of your thyroid medicine if you supplement with iodine. It might be helpful to try Lugol's iodine (the liquid form) as it is easier to take less and build up to more.)
Keep us posted on your progress.
~Mama to Many~"
12/03/2013: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Dee...If you have a hypothyroid condition, then this is a condition that occurs when you have low iodine levels in the body and perhaps a lack of certain critical minerals in your body as well. Most people are low thyroid these days but if you lack certain mineral anti-oxidants in your body -- like magnesium, zinc or glutathione peroxidase -- this can even cause or aggravate hypothyroid and thyroiditis problems.
The protocol that you should be using is the full Lugol's Iodine Protocol with Companion Nutrients. Never take Lugol's Iodine just on it's own for reasons that are all explained here in this link. This link, which is a short excerpt from my book on Candida, describes, in detail, the reasons and causes for higher dose iodine problems.
If you are hypothyroid, it might also benefit you to supplement a natural bio-identical thyroid from bovine or porcine sources(such as Nature Thyroid for example) which contains real T1, T2, T3, T4 and calcitonin (hormone that controls bone formation). This form of thyroid is all natural, whereas allopathic equivalents like Synthroid only contains synthetic T4 to control the thyroid via the TSH from the Pituitary gland.
The Iodine Protocol with companion nutrients should definitely help to relieve your hypothyroid problems. A good series of books has been written by Dr Brownstein to help people to more understand and naturally resolve their own thyroid problems and these are:
If you prefer to use the potassium iodide then just buy some SSKI (Saturated Solution of Potassium Iodide) from the health shop or from ebay.com and take one drop of SSKI in water or juice twice a day. One drop of SSKI is equivalent to 25 mgs of iodide. Therefore 2 drops is 50 mgs which is the minimum dose you should be taking for hypothyroid. Always take the iodine/iodide companion nutrients if you take this as a supplement to avoid problems.
Personally, I would rather take either lugol's iodine or Iodoral (LI in a pill) for thyroid problems because it does much more than just iodide alone. Iodide is a very useful antioxidant that is needed for absorption by the thyroid gland. Lugol's Iodine contains iodide and elemental iodine that react together in solution to also produce Tri-iodide(same as nascent iodine) in this reaction:
I2 + I- « » I3-
And as you can see, lugol's iodine contains all three useful forms iodide/iodine/triiodide, which is much more beneficial for the whole body's absorption of iodine(not just for the thyroid).
If you have your thyroid checked by the doc then do not have the TSH test -- this test is very inaccurate because it only checks T4 levels(inactive form). Get the Free T3/Free T4 blood check for a more accurate check of your thyroid hormone levels. Insist on this from your doctor. If you doctor won't do the Free T3/Free T4 test then find another doctor or naturopath that will do it.
If you supplement iodine then you should also avoid all foods containing dairy and soy -- calcium and soy are goitrogens that tend to inhibit the absorption of iodine into the body and the cells.
What might also help you is to have a hair analysis(not expensive). This will tell you exactly what minerals you are lacking in diet and will also tell you what heavy metals and other poisons like chlorine, fluorine and bromine that you have in excess in your body(which are detrimental to the thyroid gland). This will allow you to more fine tune your protocols to address these mineral deficiencies and other problems concerning chelation and removal of excess heavy metals and halides in the body."
12/03/2013: Dee from Melbourne replies: "HI Mama to Many. First of all thank you so much for responding me I always read your posts on this site . They are all so useful and I cannot Belive that somebody I adore responded me.. I will definately try liquid pottasium iodide with selenium (can I eat 3 brazil nuts instead selenium pill) and b complex as you suggested.
Am lacking iron (stopped taking iron tablets now sick of taking them) and b12 (taking shots regularly) and vitamin d too. And I am vegetarian not vegan. Its feel so good that somebody lives so far understood my pain and took some time out to respond me back. Thank you so much!!! Am not feeling alone now. Take care."
12/03/2013: Dee from Melbourne replies: "Dear Bill, thank you million for all the information you shared. I will go for a tFfree t3 and t4 test and also hair analysis test too . And also thank u So much for all the info regarding iodine and how to take it.. Am on the path to heal my self naturally . Your time and support means a lot to me.. This site is amazing!!!! I put my husband on ACV for his allergies issue and heseems to start believing in natural products now.. Thank again. God bless you!!!"
12/04/2013: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa replies: "Dear Dee,
Hi again! Regarding using Brazil nuts instead of a Selenium supplement, I think that is a good idea. Whenever possible, I like to get the needed nutrients from food. Then they are perfectly balanced with other needed nutrients. I think the recommendation for Brazil nuts is 1 or 2 nuts a day (ideally, one and a half! )
Have you considered Blackstrap Molasses for your iron? It has helped me greatly with pregnancy related anemia. It is wonderfully nutritious. I once saw a naturopath who put almost all of her patients on Blackstrap. She must have seen great results from it. (1 Tablespoon per day.)
Keep us posted on your progress! God bless you!
~Mama to Many~"
09/27/2009: Jab from San Antonio, Tx, USA: "hypothyroidism...
Been trying ACV [apple cider vinegar] and VCO [virgin coconut oil] for my hypothyroidism of 18 years. Am feeling some changes, but am concerned about taking the VCO 3 times a day. A tablespoon has 120 calories and sometimes I take it warmed in rice milk-a cup would have 9 calories. That's 210 calories. At the minimum 3-4 tablespoons a day I'd be taking 360-480 in in calories of VCO. With the rice milk even more. I'm 59 and that would take up at least a third of my daily calories to maintain my weight. Gonna make my range of food intake extremely limited, I'm afraid.
After the ACV and VCO reduce the need for meds, do you need to maintain the same dosage of ACV and VCO to stay hypothyroidism free?"
09/29/2009: Bunny from Santa Ana, Ca replies: "Most weight loss experts these days don't recommend calorie counting because all calories are not created equal. A glass of vegetable juice might have more calories than a '0 calorie' diet drink, but the juice is full of vitamins, minerals and other great things, while the diet drink is junk in a bottle.
VCO is a good example of this. It's crammed with medium chain triglycerides (about 60%). MCTs aren't stored as fat. They are converted to ketones that your cells can burn instead of sugar. MCT's are being researched as a treatment for Alzheimer's for this reason.
For hypothyroidism iodine is the thing-along with removing things that inhibit thyroid function from your diet. Fluoride, chlorine and bromines are big culprits. Soy and raw cruciferous veges like broccoli and cauliflower can also cause problems. Check the iodine section here for instructions on how to do an iodine patch test and see if supplementing helps."
04/12/2011: Hope from Delhi, India replies: "Hey Guys,
I am a newbie to this site and happy to see so many people sharing their experiences. I am 27 yrs old and have been on thyroid medication for a year now. Although this disease has messed up my life - body and mind.. The doctors I have met seem quite unconcerned with the problems I am facing. From being an extremely active girl, I have become the laziest and tiredest of all. I have put on 20Kgs in last one year and look extremely puffy. Nothing interests me and at times I feel detached to my loved ones. I don't understand why! I have asked many doctors about it... but all they do is get my blood test done and then change my medication amount accordingly.
Looking for alternatives is how I found this site and hope that it may help me to cure or at least cpe with the situation. I have started with EVCO - cold pressed today. My stomach is not taking it well right now, but I am feeling much more energetic ( I might be just imagining it! ). Anyhow, I am feeling happy enough to enroll for swimming - used to be my passion in college.
Hoping for the best!"
10/14/2013: David from Aurora, Colorado, Usa replies: "Hi Hope from Delhi,
Just a thought - If you're swimming indoors, in a chlorinated pool, it's possible that could be counterproductive. Isn't chlorine one of those things that can negatively affect thyroid function? (I've also read that school-age children who swim regularly in chlorinated pools are more prone to get asthma. ) Best Wishes to you."
05/18/2009: Sangeetha from Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands: "I am considering re-starting ACV for my food allergies and would also like to start 1 tbsp EVCO for my hypothyroid. Is it ok to take both these side by side or could/would there be any side effects?
Thanks for responding."
05/19/2009: Tim from La, CA replies: "Hi, I am no expert, but cocnut oil is very healthy and can be used with any food etc. But if you are conserned don't take them at the same time. Coconut oil is just like any other oil like Olive oil etc, but healthier, so it can be used with evrything and also you may want to consider taking a few tabel spoons of it every day with salads, on bread or alone, also you can use it for cooking."
05/19/2009: Sangeetha from Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands replies: "Does ACV act like an antacid to reduce the stomach acid and make our bodies more alkaline? If so, could ACV reduce absorption of Vitamin B12 as mentioned below for antacids:
"The use of antacids will also lower your stomach acid secretion and decrease your ability to absorb vitamin B12.
Stomach acid (hydrochloric acid) is a crucial ingredient in your body's ability to absorb B12. If you're taking a medication specifically designed to reduce the amount of stomach acid you produce, your body's ability to use vitamin B12 from the food you eat or the supplements you take will be significantly compromised."
As Vitamin B12 is very important for our complete well-being, I would appreciate response to this query."
01/06/2010: Robert from Martinez, Ca replies: "Response to old post from Sangeetha, Grand Cayman of 5-19-09 regarding B-12 absorption: B-12 is best absorbed directly into the blood via injection or sublingual, not in the stomach. Best B-12 is methylcobalamin avail on the net as sublingual & dosage depends on need. Vegetarians need more. Most of the B vitamin complex tablets on the market are petroleum based & not good for DNA over long term use. Dr Bob Marshall has researched this. Also regarding oils, please read Dr Russell Blaylock nutrition book. He is a neurosurgeon of 35 yrs. & states most all oils are excitotoxic to the brain. Best to use olive, coconut,or peanut oils. He does not recommend any others. Dr David Brownstein has researched iodine for over 20 yrs & recommends Iodoral. His books are very cheap on the net & see also his book on salt. He also has videos free on the net. Please note that the thyroid & hormone tests that are prescribed by 'Docs'are what they are taught in med school & are inaccurate, & it is a waste of your time to argue these points with most Docs as they are very protective of their trade. Example: you cannot test hormones via blood samples, only via saliva. Check Drs. David Zava & John Lee, pioneers in this field.Regarding coconut, I use raw extra virgin organic 'butter' which is the entire meat & oil combined. Thank you & I extend blessings to all."
09/14/2012: Citygirl27 from Richardson, Tx, Usa replies: "Yikes! Thanks. I've been taking my B vitamins at bedtime with my ACV/baking soda drink. Will start using lemon/baking soda then instead! Thanks for the heads up.
BTW that molasses tea drink sounds great, going to try it with my Bigelow vanilla caramel tea."
04/08/2013: Citygirl27 from Richardson, Tx, Usa replies: "I use extra virgin coconut oil, and apple cider vinegar together in my homemade salad dressings. They should be fine together, unless you have a particular sensitivity. I'd also add that using them in a dressing makes the vinegar a lot more palatable. I just add a few spices and garlic flakes and sea salt and pepper.
Tip: Add some olive oil to the dressing to help stop it from going solid at room temp."
10/03/2012: Nursing Student In Florida from Saint Augustine, Fl: "First of all, after reading the blurb at the top about cretinism being a form of hypothyroidism in infants... this is a CHOICE...I am a patient who has congenital hypothyroidism (in my particular case, my thyroid gland is so severely underdeveloped I basically do not have one) but thanks to my beloved mother listening to the physicians when she found out that I had this condition and CHOOSING to make sure I took my medication everyday, I do not suffer from cretinism and am actually a nursing student with Certification as a Medical Assistant.
I have read several books and articles about this condition and ways to maintain a healthy diet. Unfortunately, there is not a cure but there are ways to live a healthy life despite the condition. I have heard that choosing a "flexitarian" diet that is a diet where meat is eaten once a day and the rest of the day a vegetarian-style diet plan is followed (high protein, high complex-carb... Think fiber). It is supposed to aid in proper BM also because you want to be eating higher amounts of fiber you want to drink more water which will promote the effects of the fiber. Monounsaturated fats and Polyunsaturated fats are also a huge help with this condition. Limit Saturated and Trans fats as much as possible (they break down into simple sugars which will leave you feeling drained).
Hypothyroidism can make joints and muscles feel weak, a good way to combat this is to start the day with yoga or some soothing exercise (save the cardio and strength training for later, allow your muscles the opportunity to ease into the day's movements) also this is the time of day when you want to consume the most calories ie: if you are consuming a 1600 cal diet then 600 breakfast, 500 lunch, 500 dinner (with that said I have heard over and over it is best to just stick with 3 meals a day rather than 5 or 6 mini-meals, our metabolism is not like everyone else [drats :(]). Try not to eat anything between 2 to 3 hours before going to bed at night (acid can creep up causing problems in the future).
Hope this helps! Nursing Student in Florida"
04/04/2010: Rondamommie from Kansas City, Mo, Usa: "Has anyone heard of a natural way to remedy congenital hypothyroidism? Would it be relevant, the ways mentioned for those having hypothyroidism, the kind brought about by autoantibodies? Does it necessarily mean a person with congenital hypothyroidism has no thyroid gland at all or just a non-working one/system?
[YEA] 04/23/2013: Toourlady89 from Hayward, Ca: "The soles of my feet hurt sometimes, I read that it could be one symptom of hypothyroid. I am hypothyroid. What I have found that helps my pain is Emu Oil. Rub to any painful areas really well. It goes deep into several layers of the skin, relieving pain. Also works for burns, sunburn, swollen joints etc. I carry it with me everywhere. Anyone with any itch, insect bites, painful gums, teeth or even for cleaning up, it works. Emu Oil is an Australian cure by the aborigines. It was introduced to me in US as a multi level marketing product. It now is in the mainstream so anyone has access. thru Amazon or Ebay."
02/26/2013: Merryanne from Orange City, Florida, Usa: "Lab results of TSH: I had a lab done on 2-21-2013 and the one I don't understand is the TSH, 3rd generation is 4.62 (0.40-4.50 mIU/L) it ia marked as High does this mean that my thyroid is high or low? I am 66 yo and had 4 surgeries from last year April till Sep. 1, 2012, the doctor did not seem overly consinerd about it, but if someone understands these labs I would love to know what they mean. Merrryanne in Central FL"Replies
02/26/2013: Belladonna from Toronto, On replies: "Hi, It looks lke your thyroid is a little bit on a HYPO ( low) side. What about your other thyroid tests? Free T3 and Free T4? The results of TSHm T3 and T4 will give more precise picture of your thyroid health.
02/27/2013: Linda from New Haven, Ct, United States replies: "I often check my lab work on this site: http://labtestsonline.org/
Use the section on the right hand side to pull up each of the tests conducted by the lab, then just read the various tabs that appear. You will then have a good understanding of your results.
02/28/2013: Merryanne from Orange City, Florida, Usa replies: "Thank you Belladonna for your response: The results I posted are from my regular blood work, I forgot to ask the doc did mean high or low, what I mentiond was the only result concerning TSH, thank you, Merryanne in Central FL"
06/06/2012: Anon from Queens, Ny: "Hi Ec..... I am hypothyroid, have been for the past three years. As many of us who has this disease know, you can never feel the way you did when you were not sick. I personally have changed my diet, used every green drink/vitamin imaginable and am still struggling. Recently, I have noticed that anytime I have a stressful day, or has overworked, I would have this sudden discomfort directly in the center of my chest. It would last from an hour to sometimes the whole day. I have used cayenne, lemon water, magnesium, fresh green juice, co q10, apple cider vinegar, garlic etc but nothing seems to help until one day out of desperation, I reached for a glass of milk don't ask me why.. All I know is that it took maybe 10 mins for the feeling to just disappear. I cannot up till now figure out why milk out of everything helped this issue. Could it me I was lacking calcium? I hope someone in this wonderful community can help me figure out this one. Please guys.... Bill, Lisa, anyone.... Your input would be very appreciated. God Bless"Replies
06/08/2012: Pnutb from Somewhere, Usa replies: "Sounds like you have reflux."
05/25/2013: Joy from Battleground, Wash replies: "As I read this post, I am wondering about copper?"
10/08/2011: Highonfaith from Philadelphia, Pa.: "I swim everyday for 30 min. in an indoor chlorinated pool. I also have hypothyroidism. Is this bad for me? I have ask two Dr.s but they seem clueless. I have come across a couple of comments online that suggest swimming in an indoor chlorinated pool is bad for the thyroid. Is this true? Unfortunately, because of knee problems and shin splints I have had to move to a low impact aerobic form of exercise. Swimming seemed a viable alternative.
After swimming for a year, I am now worried about my thyroid. I had the condition well before I started swimming. But, I'm wondering if I'm exasperating my condition? Or, asking for even more trouble with my thyroid by swimming? It is all in an attempt to stay healthy, and maintain a level of fitness despite my hypothyroidism, but now I'm wondering if I'm doing more harm then good."Replies
10/09/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Chlorine depletes the body of iodine so I guess the answer to your question is swimming in a chlorinated pool bad for your hypothyroidism bad for you.
Hypothyroidism is caused by a lack of, or deficiency of iodine so you need to supplement with iodine & I suggest you read the book "Iodine why you need it and why you can't live without it" by Dr. Brownstein.
Iodine is needed all over the body so if you have hypothyroidism you probably have other ailments also attributed to iodine deficiency as well or will have soon.
If you search Dr. Brownstein on youtube he has some excellent videos on iodine."
10/10/2011: Wendy from ....., Canada replies: "I didn't catch the original post for this but in regards to swimming in a chlorinated pool, It just isn't worth it IMO and I won't allow my kids to swim in one either. My husband would like them to learn how to swim and our pool is only open a few months out of the year but I won't let them go to the pool at the Y because it is so incredibly toxic on sooo many levels... I did a whack of research on it trying to show him the pros and cons. I recall reading something years ago about kids who swam like once a week in a chlorinated pool and how damaging on their respitory system and causing ashtma etc. Last time I was in a chlorinated pool 5 years ago on vacation, I went to get out and could hardly stand up!!! Don't let people fool you with 'salt pools'... Same diff - research it, its not the healthy option they lead you to believe. Great Wolf lodge? I walked in the room and it BURNED MY LUNGS just breathing it- YUK!!!! I turned around and walked back out. WOW, can't believe people take their kids there.
We put up our own pool and run it on hydrogen peroxide (we purchase 35% in 5 gallon jugs, and then the following year we bought them in drums (maybe 18 gallons?? not sure my husband gets them from an agriculture place that services farms ;-)) and then we buy test strips. When shocking you can shoot for 100 ppm and some recommend keeping it at 50-75 ppm.... Which seems to work well ;-) there is information online about converting yoru pool to h202. We tried ozone for a few years but it wasn't a stand alone product and we got algae so we switched to the h202 and algae bars which I couldn't find this year ;-) Just my 2 cents on the evils of chlorine ;-("
05/30/2012: Jesse from Ann Arbor replies: "Seeking help with a diagnosis..
- Poor concentration
- Poor memory
- Apathy/lack of interest or motivation
- Intermittent occurrences of what I assume is mild Dyshidrotic eczema on my hands
- Often light headed upon standing
- Thin facial hair; falls out.
- Caffeine makes my face break out.
- Poor circulation fairly often (cold hands and feet)
- Premature ejaculation
- Face ranges from semi-dry to outright oily
- Extremely pale completion (Pallor)
- Severe sugar and alcohol cravings
After getting fed up with conventional doctors' bullshit (being put on SSRI's and the like),
Saw a holistic doctor when I was perhaps 22. Said I was borderline hypothyroidic. Put me on some type of thyroid med (Armour thyroid if memory serves), to no avail. Gave up.
Nearly 28 now. Recently ate a lot of cruciferous vegetables (for whatever reason) over the course of two or three days and skin began to itch horribly for the better part of 36 hours. Looked into it, made the hypothyroid connection. Did some preliminary research and decided to start supplementing my diet with kelp (for the iodine) and Brazil nuts (for the selenium). Cut out all known "goitrogens" etc. After two or three days, woke up today feeling energetic, in fairly good spirits, yet slightly nervous (all of which are unprecedented for me). Ate a moderate breakfast that kept me satiated well into the afternoon (usually I have cravings). Crashed half way thru the day and couldn't even get myself into the gym to do light cardio for 30 minutes.
Can someone help me out, here? What the hell is going on with me? Should I continue using kelp and brazil nuts?
Any help is greatly appreciated, Jesse"
05/31/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Jesse, everything you have described as symptoms all point to toxicity. To begin cleaning start w/ your environment --home, workplace, food, water, air. Next start a parasite cleanse and proceed to kill chronic infections (bacteria, fungi, viruses). Next get out possible heavy metals and zenobiotics (that cause parasites and infections) w/ ionic foot spa, detox foot pads, and oil pulling.
Info on the particulars of these protocols are found on this site. Also, body buffering or alkalizing is very important as well as oxygenation. Take whole body hot baths of 1/4 cup Epsom salt 1/4 cup baking soda and rotate to either a ACV or Borax bath for infections.
Support the liver and kidneys w/ recommended herbs. NAC is a must for glutathione boosting (detoxification). Flood your body with nutrition especially antioxidants. Coconut oil or caprylic acid is a must. A good 3-6-9 oil supplement will help much.
Be diligent and patient because this process could take months or as much as 2 yrs depending on specific conditions."
05/31/2012: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Jesse, one thing I have read is not to take TOO much selenium, which means that I do not take more than ONE OR TWO brazil nuts a day. NOT MORE."
05/31/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Jesse... Regarding your own problems, it would seem from the symptoms that you have described that you are hypothyroid or low thyroid at the very least. Therefore you should take the full Iodine Protocol given in the link to replenish both your thyroid and your whole body's need for iodine/iodide.
Here is a link to the most current research that explains the whole body's need(not just the thyroid's need) for regular iodine/iodide using lugol's iodine:
Unfortunately, it doesn't end there. Two of your symptoms make me quite suspicious and I wonder about another possible associated problem:
Caffeine makes my face break out.
Severe sugar and alcohol cravings
These symptoms are not indications of low thyroid -- they are symptoms of candida. Caffeine removal happens in the liver -- so you may have a stressed or insufficinet liver because of candida or parasites. Severe sugar and alcohol cravings can also be associated with candida problems. In my own experience of treating candida -- everyone I have ever helped(including curing myself of systemic candida) has had low thyroid symptoms always associated with their candida problems. I had 80%-90% of the same problems and symptoms that you have now except I also had psoriasis, eczma, jock itch, athletes foot, continual bloating, constipation etc. I can't possibly define all the diseases that can be associated with candida -- it would take up too much room -- but have a look at this link for for a full range of recognized candida associated symptoms. No two people will ever have the same candida symptoms which is why doctors have such a poor record of identifying early stage candida problems. And because of candida's wide associations with other diseases and problems such as low thyroid, gastro-intestinal problems, skin problems etc -- no two candida sufferers will ever have exactly the same symptoms.
So you must find out whether you have systemic or local candida problems. You can do a quick check on yourself and look at your tongue. If it is white or blotchy white(instead of a healthy pink) then you probably have candida. Best to go to a naturopath and tell him or her to test for candida(medical doctors are clueless at diagnosing early stage candida). Also ask the naturopath for a hair analysis to see what heavy metals and bad halogens you have in your body. The hair analysis will also reveal what minerals you are lacking in your diet.
If you do have candida then the whole ballgame changes and you should take the Anti-Candida Protocol.
But first you must confirm whether your low thyroid problems are due insufficient iodine or whether they are due to internal candida problems. So your best bet is to first go to a naturopath, as I have already described, for confirmation either way."
05/31/2012: Wendy from Columbus, Oh replies: "You may have an adrenal issue, but I'm certainly no expert!
Now I'm not advertising this center; just helping you hone in on one in your area that may help you.
I would suggest contacting the The Nutritional Healing Center of Ann Arbor - (734) 302-7575. While I've never been there, it appears that they do Nutrition Response Testing, recommend eating whole foods and taking Standard Process whole food supplements.
Their website is
I've been seeing a specialist in Columbus, Ohio for the past 4 years who does Nutrition Response Testing, and I've experienced excellent results.
Best of luck!"
05/31/2012: Wendy427 from Columbus, Oh, Usa replies: "Re chlorinated pools: I swim regularly at our local health club who will be introducing SPHAGNUM MOSS to augment their chlorine-based filtration system. Apparently sphagnum moss can DECREASE the chlorine by as much as 50%(! ).
Currently, there are some universities and health centers who are already using sphagnum moss.
I found this link which explains more:
06/02/2012: Had from White River Jct, Vermont replies: "You may just be hypothyroid or have the autoimmune Hashimoto's--that attacks your thyroid. I think this because you said you took thyroid meds and it did nothing, been there. By taking them you increased your immune response to attack and had even less energy than you started w/. on what you are doing. Go to hypothyroid or Hashimotos page, there is wonderful info already written. Invest in Dr. Brownstein book on autoimmune/thyroid (not exact name). It will give you a fuller accurate picture of a treatment plan.
You will also want to see someone in natural med who agrees about using iodine. The reason for this, once your thyroid is off/not working right it affects ALL your hormone levels. When you introduce iodine to focus on fixing the thyroid, if your adrenals are not keeping up you won't have sustained energy, the balance is tricky so help is good (someone who muscle tests is best so you get the correct dosing you actually need) and I'm 3 1/2 weeks into Hoshi treatment, it is up and down. I am having on/off with the healing crisis, Dr. Brownstein states usually 3 months on 'therapy' levels of iodine, for me 100mgs a day, or until all symptoms have stopped, then a slow decrease to 'maintainance' level of 12/5 mg a day. And people being people that is an average number for maintainance, you wean yourself down and stop at the level where you don't feel as well, move back up a drop then stay there. don't give up."
06/03/2012: Kk from Seattle, Wa replies: "Look into parasites cleanses"