10/24/2009: Alexandra from Tumon, Guam writes: "I know someone with gout and mentioned that apple cider vineger might work for her. She adamantly refuses to use it because she claims that acidic foods cause burning sensations when she urinates. I was disappointed since after reading the testimonies I thought it would be a great alternative to the meds she is currently taking for gout. Any thoughts/suggestions? She currently takes meds for her irregular heart beat as well. Thanks!"

07/24/2009: Michael from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "As you can see from my email below, the ACV helped me 90% but not completely. However, while ACV was helping, it's interesting to note that INITIALLY, my big toe swelled more for about 3 hours with throbbing and some pain before it finally subsided and got it 90% cured quite quickly.

I suspect that the increased throbbing (with some pain) was the ACV sorta "dissolving" the "hardened" uric acid crystals in my toe and later eliminating it from my system. Maybe in your husband's case (15 years) there was just so much uric acid deposits that the dissolving/throbbing/pain process was more intense and takes longer than the 2-3 hours it took for me.

Just a guess; I'm no doctor.. but then again, doesn't seem like conventional doctors know about the true physical effects "earth medicines" either! lol"

09/06/2009: Lightfallonme from Brandon, MS replies: "Have been suffering from 1st onset of gout for months now, from knee down on both legs. Severe edema in both legs. Have not found a cure yet but will try some of the recipes found here. To the woman whose husband suffered from gout for 15 yrs, honey, you may have used the processed ACV. The vinegar you need to use is the organic apple cidar vinegar with the "stringy mother" in it. It's brown & gross looking but is the only one that works. It's loaded with potassium, vit c & nutrients you won't find in the processed junk. Doctors have been useless and I won't take the dangerous meds; however, the organic apple cidar vinegar provides relief & helps get rid of the fluid build-up that's so painful. Will try a combination of the treatments I see here & will let you know what works. ACV does provide enough relief for me to function but attack so severe, guess it's going to take a combination or longer length of time for cure & I'm not willing to wait longer."

09/21/2009: Roey from Somers, Ny replies: "Thank you for the info on ORGANIC apple cider vinegar. I totally agree it MUST be organic. My husband has suffered for gout for years, he was 60 when his first attack came. He was always very active but this horrible ailment stopped him in his tracks..literally. Conventional doctors are no help..they just prescribe meds with all kind of side effects and who knows what kind of problems they will cause down the road. It's a quick easy fix..which most people want. The real cure is possible but most people do not have the fortitude or ability to deprive themselves of all the unhealthy eating habits and mind altering substances that cause all the problems in the long run.

My husband went to a medical Doctor who trained in alternative healing with a famous MD and authority on Alternative healing. His prescripion was very simple..but also complex in other ways. He claimed that Gout is a sympton of clogged internal filters which need to be cleansed by detoxing. Basically the kidneys and lover are not functioning to capacity. He gave my husband a protocol which I did with him for support and why not optimize my own health.

For the first 2 weeks cut out everything acidic. Alcohol, caffine, animal fat (all red meat). Basically become a vegetarian. No white flour, refined sugar or gluten or wheat products. 64 oz of water and or herbal tea..no caffine. The next 7 days consists of 16oz of Green Juice from organic greens 4X per day. 8am 11am 2pm and 5pm in addition to 64 oz water/herbal tea. Enzymes and probotics are also recommended as well as other dietary supplements like a quality multivitamin.

Last but not least..get ready for this one..Daily Tap Water Retention Enema 1x per day. 1qt. water in bag with 4 drops lemon juice. Hold water in roll to left side hold 3 minutes if possible, come up to all 4's head slightly lower than your butt..hold 3 min..roll to right side hold 3 minutes..finally position self against wall and raise legs up wall..hold 3 minutes..after this release into toilet. If cramp deep breaths help. and messaging lower abs...This routine helps to relieve toxic substances and toxic effects from fast such as headaches and edginess. Rigourous exercise not recommended. Important to slow down.

The juice fast ingredients are: 1/2 cucumber, handful of parsley, 5 stalks of kale, 3 stalks fennel, 3 stalks of celery and 5 stems of dandelion, all organic. Add a small piece of ginger root. Coming off the fast is very important. Just some brown rice and steamed green vegitable, salads..no vinegar very acidic use lemon juice and olive oil. You cannot jump back into old eating pattern. Vegetarian life style works well for gouts sufferers or limit your animal protein. Rice pasta is a good alternative with olive oil and garlic. Light fish such as sole, flounder, snapper, cod..no shellfish..highly acidic. Try to substitute green tea for coffee which is also very acidic.

My husband has been gout free for 3 years. If it comes back he will just go through the protocol again. A small price to pay for good health and no more pain! Check out the work of Gabriel Cousens and the Tree of Life Rejuvination center. They are very radical and proponants of eating only raw vegetarian food but they have good tips on detoxing and how to do it safely. You can find them on line. Also retreat centers like Kripalu in Lenox Mass. and Omega in Rhinebeck NY offer supervised week long fasts. Good Luck!!! Oh yes..yoga and meditation are great ways to heal the body and the mind and learn to slow down."

09/22/2009: Julie from Ellwood City, Pa, Usa replies: "Cherries are another very successful home remedy to prevent gout. If you can eat fresh while in season, do so; otherwise, buying a can of cherry pie filling and eating the cherries will work also. It is up to you as to whether or not you want to rinse them off. Cherries are more successful than the RX medication Cholchicine for gout. Eat a can of cherries over a weeks time or so; eating just a few a day is all that is required. Simple and effective way to prevent gout "attacks" and faster at getting rid of gout if currently suffering."

10/31/2009: Charcoal from Hong Kong Sar, China replies: "I've got over 10 times of gout attack randomly around 7-8 years and now I'm having the 11th so I found this web site. I agree with Michael when the remedy works it dissolves the crystal so this happened to me is more painful to the joint(imagine the mountain of needles are breaking so you get more needles in the fluid), but after the overnight of deadly painful I will get better.

I didn't try the ACV but my handy remedy is mixing lemon juice with baking soda (half piece of lemon's juice mixing with baking soda until no more bubble developed, then dilute with glass full of water)

Also, I'm taking over the counter painful killer

However, I think any natural remedy is good for minor to moderate cases and I'm sure drinking water is the most natural one.

After first few attacks I never go to physician again because they don't understand your painful and they cannot monitor your situations at home."

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[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  07/23/2009: Michael from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "Worse gout attack since first time and extremely painful (left big toe, or more like foot!), and cherries and medicines didn't cure it this time (worked before).

ACV 2 Tbsp 2x/day with juice worked very well, 90% improvement quite quickly (about 3-4 days) and removed the intense pain and swelling, and could walk 85% fine (kinda limp a bit) again...

However, it's been more than a week since that "big improvement" and I continue taking the ACV, yet there seems to be very little improvement since then, and it's still 5 to 10% painful/immobilized, and still cannot "fully" bend my toe (although before I couldn't bend it at all, couldn't even touch it).

Any comments? =0"

07/23/2009: alain from Ottawa, Canada replies: "Suggestions for gout.

You should get some pH paper and measure your urine pH. I read that 60%-80% of uric acid is eliminated with the urine. If the pH of the urine is for example 7 instead of 5 (very acidic) then 1000 times more uric acid is dissolved in the urine.

You can increase the pH (less acidic) if you take your ACV with baking soda (sodium bicarbonate). If you have water retention, half of the baking soda should be replaced with potassium bicarbonate or potassium citrate.

See http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/alkalizing_formulas.html

Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda Formula
Two tablespoon of ACV plus 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda. Take this two to three times a day on an empty stomach. It is supposed to give you more energy. The pH of this formula is about 7.

For People with Sodium Issues and Want to Alkalize
1/8 teaspoon of baking soda 1/16 teaspoon of potassium bicarbonate 1/4 teaspoon of citric acid. Add water to 1/2 glass of water. Take this twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening on an empty stomach. This is done to avoid diarrhea problems, if taken along with food.

More formulas can be found.

Try to find more of my posts in EC for other alkalizing suggestions.

Also, search the internet for "Alkalizing foot baths".

Good Luck

Alain"

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[YEA]  07/21/2009: Blutoe from Austin, TX writes: "apple cider vinegar dose for Gout: Do you have to use water when you drink your dose... or are 100% apple juice or grape juice acceptable companions. It did rid me of gout over a few days, where before nothing was helping. I have been using them, or a mineral water drink to mask the taste of the vinegar, I just dont want to cancel out any of it's effectiveness, now that I am moving to the maintenance doses. I figured apple or grape juice would be fine, since you can make vinegar from the fruit. any thoughts are helpful."

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[YEA]  07/07/2009: Dave from Lancashire, England writes: "I last had gout 8 years ago. It was a very bad attack and the doc gave me Naprosyn but unfortunately the attack lasted for weeks. Last week after too much cheese and wine, I felt another attack coming on. My big toe started swelling and was inflamed and red. The pain was building up and I prayed it wasn't going to be another fully-fledged attack. I found this site and sent for some organic acv. I took a couple of tablespoons in a glass of water 3 times a day and adapted my diet to include lots of water, celery, cherries,strawberries, salad, radish and other healthy stuff. I also took some turmeric, vit C, chelated magnesium and milk thistle.

I bought some comfrey oil and put some on the toe. (I once cured a badly frozen shoulder with a poultice of comfrey leaves from my garden). Within about 3 days, the pain lessened, the swelling went down and I could walk again. Boy was I relieved. It was like winning the lottery. I have had several attacks of gout over the years and I do not want that pain again. I refused to see a doctor after the tablets he prescribed last time had little or no effect - except possibly side-effects.

I will take a maintenance dose of ACV and I sincerely hope that anyone who has gout can control it with ACV and the right diet. Keep off those drugs."

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[YEA]  07/07/2009: Debi from Norfolk, VA writes: "I couldn't understand the last few weeks why my feet were getting so bad again, when they have seemed practically cured for over six months. Then it occurred to me. I had run out of my jug of apple cider vinegar (with the mother in it) and with so much going on having summer guests and whatnot, I had forgotten to replace it.

It made perfect sense why my feet were getting so bad again and I was in misery - so I got another bottle yesterday and did my usual 6 oz of water with a tablespoon of the vinegar mixed in (no honey or anything else) and sipped it all morning until it was gone, then had another glass (same mixture) in the late afternoon.

My feet this morning are so improved, I can't believe it. Of course I am not skipping this little daily drink again (also using it in salad dressing and in any recipes that call for vinegar). It truly does work!"

EC: Hi Debi. Are you referring to gout or an arthritic condition? We're posting this on the gout page in the meantime...

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[YEA]  05/29/2009: John from Midland, Texas writes: "I have had gout for years and stumbled onto this website. The last year I have had some gout pain almost daily. I tried the 2 tbl in water 3 times a day for 2 days and have now been painfree for 5 days. I am waiting to see how long it takes any pain to return but so far I would agree this offers VERY quick relief."

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[YEA]  05/13/2009: GEO from Hoyland Nether, South Yorkshire writes: "While doing some web research to help a friend find relief from gout, I discovered I was suffering with it after seeing photos and reading about the symptoms - swollen big toe, red spots, and of course, excruciating pain.

My sister is a vehement advocate of apple cider vinegar (ACV) and honey for anything that ails you; consequently, I checked it out on the Internet as a gout remedy, and the overwhelming response from people was that it worked wonders.

Being an ex-investigative environmental journalist, I wanted to find out why for my own satisfaction. From the preponderance of anecdotal testimonies alone, my research overwhelming indicated that ACV has helped people with a host of maladies, and has been used for thousands of years for everything from foot fungus to kidney ailments.

However, in spite all the positive personal testimonies as to ACV's effectiveness, I couldn't find any any substantive scientific research to back to back the glowing testimonials. In fact. When I finally found the analysis for trace minerals in ACV, the amount people take should have no impact whatsoever on any malady. Acetic acid is about the only active ingredient that would impact anything.

So eliminating myself from any placebo effect bias, I tried a few tablespoons of ACV in water. It alleviated the major symptoms shortly after the first dose. After two days, I only have some residual pain in the ball of my foot instead what felt like festering boil two days before."

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[YEA]  05/01/2009: David from Midland, Tx writes: "I have had a swollen, painful big toe joint on my right foot for over two years. The left foot was becoming dotted with red spots as well as swelling in both ankles. Went to the Dr. in March, 2009 and he dignosed Gout and gave me 100mg of allopurinol daily. No improvement as of April 29. I looked up Gout cures on the internet that night and saw Apple Cider Vinegar being used with positive results. I remember family members who are all gone now, taking honey and apple cider vinegar for lots of ailments, so thought, what the heck. I took 3 tablespoons of cider yesterday a.m., last night and this morning I have no pain nor redness. This is unbelievable. I also stopped taking the meds which I know you aren't to do. These results in my case are amazing. My wife cannot believe all the redness disappeared overnight. I hope this keeps up."

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[NAY]  04/15/2009: Chans from American Fork, UT writes: "I was very skeptical when trying ACV but then what do I have to lose? Well after 3 days I'm limping worse than when I started ACV. Before I can limp around but now it seems like it's spread to other joints in my foot that I'm not able to even move around at all. I was doing 2 tbs 1 cup of water for 3 times a day and taking Shark Cartlidge pills. I have a Disney World trip with my family the end of May. I hope to God it is gone then so I've not given up on ACV just yet."

01/01/2010: Erics from Elko, Nevada, Usa replies: "Hello Chans, my name is Eric and I live one state to the west of you. I have had gout on and off for 10 years. Have you been experiencing gout for a long time? I suspect the intensifying pain with your initial ACV treatment is due to the UA crystal build-up dissolving in your joints and becoming liberated. I took Allopurinol (wow, bad stuff) and the same thing happened to me for 3 months.. frequent attacks (although shorter) and in areas that I had never had gout before. The unfortunate nature of excess uric acid is that it leaves abundant deposits in your joints that you might not be aware of. It could be that continued ACV use will help rid you of those "hidden" deposits and your overall joint health will improve."

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04/13/2009: Carol from Rhinebeck , NY writes: "Hello I have been searching the website for natural remidies for gout. My Mom is presently on medication that may be causing kidney damage. It seems they want more meds to help! Go figure. I am going to try the ACV 1 tablespoon, with 1 tablespoon of honey or less since she has type 2 diabeties, with 4 oz of water. Will post back. Also for Blood Pressure during menopause, the natural biodentical hormones help. Carol"

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[YEA]  04/07/2009: Peter from Auckland, New Zealand writes: "Have had serious gout in my ankle and toe for 3 months. The medication prescribed by my Doctor was not giving relief at all.Two days ago I found this site and within 24 hours I was able to walk with comfort after having two tablespoons of Apple Cider Vinegar 3 times per day in a glass of water.No doubt in my mind that this is a great medicine. Thank you to all that have passed this information on."

05/25/2009: Paula from Hamilton, Waikato New Zealand replies: "Am wanting more information on cider vinegar for gout can you take this with blood pressure pills and do you just add honey or can you add sugar for flavour. Paula"

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[YEA]  02/26/2009: Jay from Scottsdale, AZ writes: "Apple cider vinegar has helped with my latest gout attack. My first attack happened a year ago and I was clueless about a solution. It took a week to see a doctor and by then it was improving. I limped around for weeks.

My second attack happened two days ago and I immediately applied an aspirin cream to my toe. That was a huge mistake, the pain got worse. Later I started on apple cider vinegar with honey, grape juice, cherry juice, huge volumes of fluids and soaking my foot in epsom salts.

When the next night was also sleepless, I was despondant. I had suicidal thoughts. I could not imagine living with that kind of pain for the rest of my life. After reading all of the success stories I was ready to give up . . . but I didn't. I reduced the amount of meat and increased fruit and vegetables in my diet and continued the same therapy. By afternoon I was walking with significantly less pain.

Today, day three, there is a painful red spot on the side of my toe. I am able to bend the joint in both directions with little pain. I am walking with little discomfort. Next time I have a gout attack, I will get out of bed and begin the healing process immediately."

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[YEA]  02/22/2009: Dan from Lakewood, OH writes: "Apple Cider Vinegar works for Gout. I long suffered from gout in my feet and ankles. I tried everything over past several years. I stumbled across the Earth Clinic website. They recommended ACV with the "mother". I took two tablespoons in 6 oz. of warm water three times a day (morning, noon and night). I have not had a flare-up in two weeks. ACV seems to work well for my gout. I will continue to take ACV at least once a day for the near future."

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[YEA]  02/18/2009: Stu from Pleasanton, California writes: "I was diagnosed with gout 7 years ago after an excrutiating acute episode in my right toe. After several painful episodes, I went on allipurinol for years very successfully but wanted to get off not thinking that there were natural cures anywhere. After reading the ACV therapy I gave up the drugs cold turkey. I knew this was not wise as your body needs to ease off of it. Sure enough within five days I felt the right toe episode with which I had so long dealt with coming on. I immediatly tried the ACV approach. I did 1 - 3 tablespoons mixed with Cherry juice and after three doses in the same day I knew I would know by the next morning whether or not this would work. Sure enough it was subsiding during the day and gone by the morning. Definitly works so far! Thanks!!"

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[YEA]  02/17/2009: Tamara from Grass Valley, California writes: "Most of the people I read about had gout attacks for several years or several times. I just had the first one and it was very severe. I could hardly walk at all and not walking just doesn't fit into my life as a restaurant owner I am on my feet 12-14 hours a day.The Dr. prescribed Celebrex but after she told me all the side effects I was too scared to take it. So Sunday nite I found this web site and thought Ill the apple cider vinegar approach. I had a near full bottle of a store brand. I mixed 3 tablespoons in a glass very cold water and a couple hours later mixed another 3 tablespoons in another glass of cold water. I thought it was hurting lesss and the swelling was going down after a couple hours but I could'nt be sure.When I woke the morning next it was way less swollen and did not hurt near as much. I took another dose before my am coffee and went to the medical supply store and purchased a velcro shoe. My foot was so swollen my shoe made it worse. 3 more doses and 24 hours later the swelling and pain is 90% gone! Thank you very much for this infomation!!!"

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[YEA]  10/09/2008: Rebecca from Aberdeen, Washington writes: "Apple cider vinegar all but eliminated swelling and pain. I am 58 and have been in good shape most of my life but had a low back injury over 3 years ago and have had severe pain and stiffness which has sent me to doctors, chiropractors, physical therapists, massage therapists and even a rolfer for 15 sessions! All of these helped but very temporarily. I have also been doing yoga and exercises from a book called Relaxercise (excellent by the way) which have also helped but only somewhat. I had been getting worse within the past few months and had develped knee, foot and hand pain along with swelling of these areas especially one ankle and foot which was twice the normal size. It hurt to walk or wear any type of shoe. My husband is an RN who looked at my swollen ankle and foot and told me it almost looked like gouty arthritis. This comment prompted me to research the subject and I found a blog of 100's of people all of who had been using ACV and all but 1 person rated the treatment 5 stars. I immediately went to a health food store and bought the organic, unfiltered ACV and started by taking 3 tablespoons in a large glass of water sweetened with organic raw honey. Following the first dose the night before, I woke to find the swelling reduced to about 1/4 of what it had been and the pain nearly gone. The stuff works like a miracle! I have continued to take it every day but have cut down the dose to 2 tablespoons 2-3 times per day in the same amount of water with honey. I have only a twinge of pain and 1 spot of swelling about the size of a quarter remaining on my ankle. Amazingly, my low back has less pain and more mobility than what I have ever had since the injury over 3 years ago. All this and I have only discovered this treatment less than 1 week ago! Amazing!!"

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