Apple Cider Vinegar Enemas
Hi everyone, thank you in advance for reading this. I'm not sure where else to post this kind of a question.
Four nights ago I did an ACV (apple cider vinegar) enema (2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and 6 cups of water). I retained it for 15 minutes and then I expelled a ton of mucus and a lot of white floating tissue paper type particles. I've been dealing with a significant amount of chronic health issues for the last eight months and yeast overgrowth, constipation, and malabsorption have been some of the issues (among several others). I've done enemas in the past with great results although I would usually use bladderwrack. This was my first time with ACV.
My bowel movements have been regular since the enema I did on Thursday, although I've been experiencing severe bloating, cramps and gas down in my colon area. And every time I eat something, my stomach feels very upset. I obviously irritated my colon, and no, I will never do this again.
Has anyone else had a similar experience to this and if so, what did you do to help get your colon feeling back to normal?
I'm worried and I know if I call my doctor and explain this I am just going to get a lecture about it. I learned my lesson. Just looking for advice.
Thank you very much!
Familiar with lots of nightmares scenarios. If this was me I would use 3 activated charcoal tablets or caps with 16 oz water at bedtime unless you take meds...then read about charcoal first. Check out using castor oil hexane free on your abdomen during the night . Add a rice pack to use the heat to drive the oil into your gut from the skin. Then in the morning I would use kefir...start with a TBSP and work your way up a little at a time incase it bloats your gut as candida fights back.
Charity, do you mean 3 charcoal tablets with 16 oz of water as an enema?
or make it and drink?
either way, give once or twice a day?
(San Francisco, Ca)
Thank you, Charity, for your input- it's very much appreciated! I do wonder if I triggered a strong die-off reaction. It's been five days now since the Apple Cider Vinegar enema and I feel incredibly sick like my body is trying to fight something off. Aside from the pain in my abdomen, gas, and bloating, I have a terrible headache, sore throat, dizziness, nausea, muscle aches and alternating between hot flashes and chills. My stools have been soft with a lot of mucus discharge and they smell very toxic. I used a castor oil pack on my stomach today and will keep at it with the activated charcoal. Thank you again!
Chills, body aches, fatigue, headache fever, I use Oscillococcinum ....I keep a big box around
One little tube every six hours until misery subsides...works every time even if you don't have the flu and doesn't affect other meds or cures you are using but space it away from the charcoal cause charcoal will suck it up and you will lose the benefit.
Hope you feel better soon.
Just want to comment on coffee enemas after reading all the old posts (which seem to go off on other subjects a lot). I recently ordered a silicone enema bag and started a course of one enema session per day (plus veg. juicing in a masticating Champion-type juicer) and after 3 weeks it seems to have helped my situation quite a lot. What I want to say here now is that I started out with dark (regular roast) organic “enema coffee” that I ordered online, but after I used up most of that first pound, I wanted to try the lightly roasted kind and switched to a very light roast (Ultra Light Gold) organic, which looks like the color of roasted peanuts or light brown sugar. I subsequently realized that the dark roast had been much harsher (it spasmed my colon and required a faster evacuation and I was left kind of exhausted by the experience — after a bit of a "coffee high" for a couple of hours), but the light roast seems better in all ways. It feels like a nourishing experience, sometimes I forget I need to evacuate it at all, and I am much less exhausted in the aftermath. The light-roast enema coffee is supposed to have a lot more palmitic acid (good) and be free of negative results of dark-roasting. Because the lightly roasted beans are relatively tough and resistant to grinding, it is better to buy them already ground (according to the sawilson site which also says testing shows that these beans do not lose much if anything by being pre-ground) rather than trying to grind them yourself. For some good information, go to Youtube.com and search for “Dr. Patrick Vickers” and “Chris Wark” doing a good interview together. Also I thought this 1956 speech by Dr. Max Gerson was interesting: http://doctoryourself.com/gersonspeech.html
I agree the lighter roast coffee is easier on the body. I use the SA Wilsons. I have also found adding a bit of sea salt about a tsp makes it much easier to retain the CE for as long as needed. Without the sea salt it feels like a real battle at times to retain the CE. I also recommend using a stainless steel container for the coffee as it's easier to clean and sterilize. The good ones are a bit pricey, around $40, but a good investment
CE's saved my life. I was having liver pain, nausea, chest pain, ringing in the ears, and dizziness for a few months. Very scary. I read about CEs and decided to try one to see if they would help. After my first CE I felt about 85% better. I do them regularly now to maintain liver health and overall body detoxification. Thanks for the Gerson article. It was excellent.
thanks for comments, Steve. I found another really informative, in-depth article by Gar Hildebrand at http://www.coffee-enema.ca/biologicalbasisforcoffeeenemas.htm (watch out because the text repeats twice). There seem to be a lot of articles at this website, I haven't had time to look at them all.
The Gerson Institute does not recommend light roast coffee and also does not recommend SA Wilson's coffee in CEs. It's too harsh for most people. I've done CEs regularly for 20 years and use medium roast organic. I tried SA Wilson and found it caused cramps. I just buy my coffee from TJs.
I used coffee enemas after being exposed to severe chemicals from a new sofa. The outgassing was so strong I was sent into toxic shock and my entire nervous system and immune system went haywire. I was diagnosed as Multiple Sclerosis. My friend told me about coffee enemas, and I did 1 a day. After 7 days I was 80% better! And completely cured after 3 weeks. I juiced a lot as well. I have found a great glass enema bucket to use, since I have allergies. I recommend Gerson Therapy for anyone needing detoxification of the liver and blood.
Hi EC community. I have used this site for years and love it!
I have been doing coffee enemas for just about a year now. Sorry for being so gross, but I am always fascinated by what comes out of me. Anyway, one might think that after over a year of application (at least 1 a week) that I would have a decrease visible candida and whatnot. I am wondering though, I still see a lot of I guess "mucous" but is that stuff meant to stay/good for my intestines?.. allowing natural bowel movements to come easier?/ Act as a vehicle for removing stuff?
Let me know your experiences and thoughts please!
I was having terrible pain in my abdomen for 2 1/2 years. I immediately begin to change my diet and finally I had "water irrigatation" colonics, . It was the break I needed. I only had one session and I feel 95% better, the pain is gone, as for the mucus, that is produced by the wrong foods we eat... Read Arnold Ehret's mucusless diet healing system.
I cannot recommend coffee enemas enough- I've experienced that they work absolute miracles.
The first time I did a Coffeee Enema (C.E.), I was desperate. I was recently hospitalized with horrific, idiopathic lymphatic swelling. The condition was terribly painful. I had heard a friend mention the Gerson therapy in passing one day, and the use of coffee enemas. So after being discharged, I tried my usual remedies and didn't have any results. Then I thought to try the C.E.. I looked up instructions, got the supplies, first did a filtered water enema, then did the C.E.. After a C.E. I clean the bathroom and take a shower. So after my shower I noticed my swelling went down about 70%. I must also say, what expels from the body with a C.E. is far more substantial and disgusting (and strangely fascinating) than what expels with regular water.
I also get soreness, pain, and swelling in my legs from arthritis, and the C.E. will take all the swelling and pain away immediately.
Actually, it clears out any pain I have in my body. It's as though I can feel my body flushing out the lymph and inflammation. While holding the CE in, I can feel a light cramp form over any areas of pain/swelling I have. Then when I expel, the cramp turns into kind of a "rush" feeling, and all the pain leaves.
Any lymph swelling I experience goes down, my skin clears of any eczema and acne, I feel far more alert (days afterwards even), and I feel cleansed and lighter inside. I eat a very healthy diet with lots of raw fiber, but the enemas clear any bit of bloating (I didnt know my stomach could be so flat).
I'm so impressed by the results, I'm not ashamed to admit I do this. In fact, I spread the word to people I see suffering from serious chronic issues. I can totally see how the use of CE can successfully treat cancer.
I just thought I would add, have you also tried 'Urine Therapy'. I was doing the coffee enemas for a year without doing the juicing. So, whilst I was taking from my body the toxins that were causing headaches etc., I wasn't necessarily eating right, drinking tea with sugar throughout the day was definitely not any good for me. A few weeks back I discovered urine therapy, the second day I started it I AF arrived and there was NO PAIN, obviously I continued this and the following month no pain what so ever. I know I still have some repairing to do, so I have started taking urine enemas. My skin feels amazingly soft, its like my eyes are new like a baby. I am 40 and my vision is excellent, and I want to keep it that way. The Monk's say 7 day old urine will remove cataracts, and to keep applying it for 7 days, that is you pee today, than apply that in 7 days, and tomorrow's pee you apply on day 8, etc. You would not apply day 8 pee to your eyes as it my do more harm than good, I do not know. I know I apply day 3 pee it's fine stings a bit, I am working it up a bit to day 7. The other thing I found really interesting is that it is very important for men to clean out their anus to prevent colon cancers like prostate. It is said it is caused from a bowel that does not fully empty itself, and than sits in the wrong position so it can't. So, I would think if you do a coffee enema, I found them very drying to my skin, the added urine enema just perfects the work of the coffee, compliments it and supplies all the nutrients required. I just love them. I want to start injecting it, it was said I had two fibroids on my uterus and these injections heal the body in remarkable times, that a little trickier said than done as you need needles and buying them from the chemist is quiet a challenge as they look at you as though you are a junkie, but well what do you say "I'm doing urine therapy". By the way injecting urine without being a license practitioner is illegal, and it is said to be illegal for a doctor, dentist or optometrist to advise anyone on urine therapy since 1940. I spent 16 years visiting doctors for anxiety where I could not breath 'panic attacks'...they gave me drugs which DID NOT WORK, in fact I just loved taking the xanax so much so that it was in fact adding to my adrenaline issues (the underlying cause of panic attacks) which was how I discovered Coffee Enema's... they completely helped my liver so I have not had one attack in years :) Thank you Coffee Enema! I really don't even get anxiety for that matter. NO conventional doctor cured me of my anxiety 'panic attacks' NO! They told me there is nothing they could do. All that training and they didn't even tell me it was my adrenaline that was causing the attacks due to an overloaded liver, all you have to do is detoxify it and you'll won't ever have another attack. Thus I do not trust them and I HATE the way they rule the world. Especially making Urine therapy illegal to the point that if they suggest it they can go to jail... so sick so those poor 'puppet' doctors just have to go on making people all sick. Since doing the UT the pain that I had in my right risk has gone, I wasn't able to open up glass jars etc., without it hurting, clearly it was some kind of arthritis.... = pain = rotting = death! No more pain means my body parts are no longer rotting, they are alive:)
Bill, will frequent use of coffee enemas deplete any nutrients from the body and can it aggravate candida? Your advice would be awesome. I hope to do enemas over the next few days or so to help detox my liver. Thanks
(San Fenando, Philippines)
Hi Cindy...Laxatives will tend to deplete minerals in the body but the main function of the coffee enema is to cause the liver to contract and expel all its stored poisons via the bile duct and the intestines. This coffee enema's action will therefore not act to deplete minerals from your body. But it will clear poisons fairly rapidly from the liver and blood.
Max Gerson used coffee enemas about 8 times a day and 8 times at night(during the sleeping hours) to help expel cancer poisons from the livers of stage 4 cancer sufferers, so I reckon coffee enemas are pretty safe to use. Here is a speech by Max Gerson which gives a quick description of his protocol.
Dr Gerson also used laxatives frequently per day as a strategy to avoid re-absorption of these cancer poisons back into the body via the colon. Since his protocol also included his patients juicing and drinking fresh fruits and vegetables every day, there was little or no danger of lack of minerals in their diet.
So coffee enemas will not aggravate candida but will in fact help act to expel the candida waste poisons -- the mycotoxins -- more rapidly from the body.
If I might add, as a once long-term Coffee Enema user, a "full strength" enema is proly too much for chronic use, watering this down will probably proof most effective. Coffee can deplete Vit- A from the body (this would cause a weakening of the intestinal walls or lining) so it is advised to increase preformed Vit-A foods or Cod Liver Oil supplements. Also, as the Colon is a major harbinger of pathogens (especially in disease states) put a few drops of Povidone Iodine in the Coffee Enema to eradicate the pathogens thus improving the detox power of the enema.
Thought I'd share this study on enema used to treat rheumatoid arthritis in India using herbs and oils in 2001 with positive results here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3215425/
I had arthritis, acne, and ulcer. And all at the same time everything disappeared after I started coffee enema.
And I know arthritis, acne and ulcer are related. When you perform coffee enema, you can see slimy slippery thing float on top (when you have a cold you cough a lot of this slippery mucus) and this is the very toxin that our body try to get rid of.
This is fungus related disease. It can affect your digestive organ joints and glands.
And whenever I had food poisoning coffee enema does wonders. It never once disappointed me.
For some, coffee enema sounds like a lot of work. I use instant coffee. (pure coffee) So I just mix it with reverse osmosis water. And retention enema for 20 minutes.. (during this time you can watch tv or study. coffee enema is great for brain!! ) whenever I am slightly depressed or anxious I do this also and I always end up singing-meaning it had positive affect on my body, mood already.
I believe not one remedy works best all the time. In conjunction with herbs minerals and MMS, vitamins and coffee enema, I am so much better now.
I wish you all the same results.
I had a similar experience recently with coffee enemas. For the past two months I had been waking up with waves of nausea in the morning. I had this feeling that my liver/GB was toxic after years of eating the standard american diet. I did a series of 3 coffee enemas over the course of about a week. I have not had any nausea since. They really work and can increase glutathione, the hormone that prevents aging, by up to 700%! They are not very pleasant to do but the payoff in health benefits is well worth it. Dr Wilson has some of the best info on coffee enemas I have seen:
Following hospitalization from a severe environmental illness some yrs back, I tried, in desperation, the coffee enema w/ a major colon cleanse effect from first two enemas. Following this I got addicted as the enemas would improve my liver detox.
As a note to the benefits of the coffee enema I must add a possible bad side effect. If using the C.E. ongoing, be absolutely sure to thoroughly clean the bag, line, and tip used for administration. After a few months of daily C.E. my progress was halted and reversed when I acquired a fungal infection from not keeping the hardware clean. Hot soapy water isn't enough; also use either bleach or ammonia (not both at once) in hot water for cleaning. More than a decade later and I am still battling the fungal issue.
After too many trips to too many Doctors I am trying a more natural approach. I have fibromyalgia, post gallbladder surgery dumping syndrome, compromised immune system, recurrent headaches and sinus infections. I had an allergic reaction, that my gastro Dr. Says couldn't happen, to Ipamadol/Isoview iodine dye, that caused nerve damage in my feet and a goiter on my thyroid gland. I am in menopause and am having night sweats but have not been able to use anything that doesn't cause side efects.
The holostic nurse pract that I went to suggested to begin with coffee enemas, but I am hesitant. One cup of coffee makes my heart race. I can't afford to do anything that will keep me from going to work, I miss too many days as is.
Does anyone have experience with either the enema or the Xeneplex?
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
Hi Melly, I just wanted to let you know that a coffee enema works quite differently from drinking coffee. I could go into the details that make coffee so effective but suffice it to say that what it does is stimulates the liver to create more bile. The increased bile helps to move the toxins out. Also, the coffee acts as an astringent in the large intestine and cleans the colon walls. Hopefully, this info helps you to make an educated decision!
Melly, according to the link I have provided below Vitamin C to bowel saturation levels and also calcium/magesium will do the trick. Also vegetable juicing... Let us know if it works.
(Wagga Wagga, Australia)
I know coffee enemas are not the same as drinking coffee & as I am so toxic & digestion so bad I was very keen to try - I did for a yr but everytime it keeps me awake all night. During that year I also got a liver profile that shows phase 1 and phase 2 not right. So perhaps they are for people with a more healthy liver than I. I cant tolerate any caffeine.
Hi Melly, Coffee enemas facilitate the liver detoxifing your blood. It has been used by Dr. Max Gerson (coleague of Dr. Albert Schweitzer and Physician to his wife) in his Nutritional Therapy for curing terminal patients. He presented 50 cured patients to the USA senate enquiry in the 1940's and published a book on the therapy. You can find more details googling "Gerson Institute". It is important that the coffee is ORGANIC.
I've been doing research on urine therapy and it turns out it cures a lot of problems a lot faster via enema. This website does not touch on the subject enough. Urine is the opposite of what we where taught. It's actually sterile and can be applied topically and ingested. It should be up there with organic apple cider vinegar. From the looks of it, urine might even surpass ACV. It's a shame we where conditioned to think of it as dirty. The better your diet the easier it is to get down. It tastes like water especially if you drink alot of water. I know it's taboo but if you are desperate enough you will look past that. All along we had a gem within us waiting to be remembered. Urine is considered the wolrds oldest medicine and has been documented dating back 5,000 years! I suggest researching your self and read every thing you can find on it.
You can start at http://educate-yourself.org/cn/
Then go to forbidden cures. This website has a wealth of knowledge! Topics that main stream media will not touch! Thanks to all. Love you earth clinic.
(Tacoma, Wa, Usa)
Glutathione is, one of, if not the most, important antioxidants in our bodies. Extra glutathione can help clear dementia, cure cancers, and it diminshes with age and toxic metal accumulation. Evidence shows that gluatathione supplements, which are very expensive, are not absorbed, so you need to encourage your body to make more.
As mentioned above, Dr. Gerson uses coffee enemas as part of his treatment program for cancer patients. Not mentioned in the posts above is that the coffee enemas are the most effective way to stimulate our livers to produce more glutathione. Eating asparagus is helpful too.
On a side note, a friend's father went to a Gerson clinic in Mexico 25 years ago with "untreatable cancer. " He came home feeling great and lived another 25 years into his 90s.
First I don't use enema bag. Because it is difficult to clean and manage. I use syringes. It is portable also. In the beginning I also used organic coffee. But I just simplified everything. Instant pure coffee. When I decide to do enema, it takes a second to prepare.
I realized no matter how wonderful the medicine is if it is difficult to access, you won't get it as much. I really think enema is the very first step of illness. When your house is full of gabage what do you do first? vacumm? no! You take the gabage out first. :)
Illness often makes people very unhappy. And alot of remedy comes with side effects. The detox symptom. To me coffee enema promises a happy time. And I can't empasize enough. "Nothing is more important than you feel better now" First you must lift your spirit up. And detoxing the liver does the job.
After finishing enema, have a huge feast. Don't worry about getting fat. Now your body needs to supply new source of energy. After an hour later perform another enema. :) Good luck and have fun!
Thanks for the tips on doing coffee enemas. I just did my first water enema since I was a 4 year old kid.
Man, oh man, I could hardly take a cupful the first 3 attempts! Couldn't even push the darn nozzle up either, so much blockage. The fourth attempt was better, stuff started coming out. Then came some fats, followed by mucous....and even more mucous. Never knew I had so much mucous in my colon till today. I guess all the mucous cayenne pepper has scraped off my organs found a nice peaceful parking bay in the colon, resided there and relaxed.
I shall repeat the process for the next 7 days, and by then hopefully I will have built the courage to do a coffee enema.
And I have systemic candida. Now wonder its not been going away, partly. The anti-fungals have done their bit really. I need to do my bit too, clean out the gunk.
Fiona or someone else who might know, are the syringes you use for coffee enemas disposable ( one use)? and where do you buy them? Thanks.
Coffee, Sea Salt, Charcoal Enemas
I was hesistant to try when I read the dangers but I had to wonder if people who got sick were not using common sense. And when I read customer results I was curious to see mine. So I used a fleet enema bottle, 1 1/2 tablespoons of brewed coffee, 1/4 tablespoon sea salt, 4.5 oz of charcoal filtered tap water lukewarm and 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. After a squirt I had a strong urge to poop. Funny thing is I pooped an hour ago and thought I was done. So I pooped more. And then I finished the remaining 4 oz. I waited 15 minutes since I have never done a coffee enema. I released mostly the solution. Started with other activities and then had tons of more poop.
It wasn't fun, I feel gross talking about poop. But the fact is a colon that empties all the way is going to be healthier than a slow system where stuff sits for days. And our digestive system is tied into our overall health in so many ways. I heard the enema can throw electrolytes off so I am having a glass of vegetable juice.
After my experience I have decided to embrace this experience two times a week to ensure my system won't be stagnant and will empty properly.
Healthy elimination has been a part of my family for 4 generations. My grandmother gave us strong (warm, not hot) coffee enemas when we had flu and it worked. Recently my 87 yr old Mom got constipated and I gave her a mineral oil enema. They come pre-packaged for one use, or purchase a full bottle of mineral oil and use some of it in a regular enema bag. It goes in slowly and is retained in the body until you natually eliminate. There is no pain, and although it may take a few hours or even a day, it doesn't cause any discomfort.
A regular, warm water enema is my first choice, and NEVER use the pre-packaged enemas with all of the other ingredients. If I travel, I will take one of those individual enema containers, empty it, and put it in the suitcase, and then use purified water if I need to fill it and use it in my long travels.
Thanks for posting Lj.
my mom or aunt (who was a nurse) gave us the enema. When sick in bed, constipated, had a fever, and for other ills an enema was given.
It seemed at the time to be their cure all remedy LOL
Surprised she gave you a warm coffee enema. But, glad it was a good remedy.
I was told not to give the child a coffee enema.
Yes getting an enema worked!
Being the oldest, by 7 years to my siblings and cousins, I remember the enema given often.
Don't remember getting a coff enema; but, remember getting a mild warm soapy water enema.
Given with the rubber bulb syringe. This was in the late 50s and early 60s.
The warm mild soapy enema was a common home remedy given then.
The solution was made in the kitchen sink by swishing a bar of ivory soap in a large bowl or pan. Making mild soapy water.
Almost always the enema was given on the kitchen table on a towel.
Or for the younger one on the changing table or across the lap way.
Seeing the syringe sitting on the kitchen table, towel on the table and my aunt, or mom, making the solution in the kitchen sink I knew an enema was going to be given.
The one who was going to get it was brought to the table.
it was no big deal. Never remember fighting or resisting the enema.
Always after it was feeling better!
No never a mess and never painful.
I remember a few times my younger toddler cousin getting an enema laying across the lap way.
Yes, the enema always worked.
I feel I am healthier today, more so than others my age, because of the home enema, proper eating, exercise, fresh air and plenty of water to drink.
The soapy enema is still given today but NOT using bar of ivory.
The solution today is made with Made For Enema Soap bar. Sold at optimalhealthnetwork.com
A neighbor mom told me she recently gave a warm enema.
Be careful giving prepared enemas! Especially the Fleet enema.
Do research on line, reading and with your doctor first!
Not medical advice. Always consult with your doctor, pediatrician, holistic doctor before giving any hone remedies.
Again, thanks for posting Lj.
Wonderful blog here. We are very fortunate to have this open forum to learn and teach.
Support this forum!
Very good you told never to use the prepackaged enemas. Fleet being one of them.
There is information on line and published in research papers that the Fleet enema is NOT good to use. I will find the study and post the link. It tells of the dangers of the Fleet enema.
When ever I talk with another mom and she tells she gave a Fleet I tell her of the study.
And suggest she buy a reusable enema bulb syringe to give the enema. When a mom is visiting at my home I get out the bulb syringe and show her. And teach. The more who are told, the healthier we are.
Or, if has more Fleet enemas in the house, empty the prepackaged solution out.Rinse with warm water. Then when want to give an enema refill the Fleet bottle with plan filtered warm water. May have to refill the bottle twice or three times to give enough. Or could have extra Fleet bottles prepared and sitting on the table. Give one after the other.
Check with holistic provider for recommendations for how much to give depending on age and reason for the enema.
Using filtered water. Never tap water —full of chemicals and everything else.
A regular warm water is also my first choice to get or give.
By “individual enema containers “ do you mean the rubber bulb?
When traveling I take the 8 oz rubber enema bulb syringe along.
My neighbor recently gave a warm soapy water enema. I told earlier she gave a warm enema. Sorry
When traveling I find getting an enema is very helpful. Relieves stress, cleanses, helped with BM when traveling, feel good after getting and enema a nice warm bath after day of traveling.
I took it along when traveled with the kids before.
Detoxing with Enemas
HI U GOD FEARING FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , , ,
Got a wild hair up my ass. Dean Martin (Timh) has probably done this, but I (Jerry Lewis) have not. And that is to bypass your digestive system and implant good stuff into your colon that will not have to travel through your digestive system and be diminished along the way.
The only thing I have done is Coffee enemas and the world knows that works. I take oral probotics, but a recent test showed that I have very little good flora in my gut. You can do anal wheat grass as I'm a great gardner. I can insert my probotic in my rear. All this good stuff will not work if your bowels are lined with plaque that you have accumulated over a lifetime. You will have to clean that out first. That is a long chore in itself. Go to Holistic Horizions and buy Dr. Grey's book. It works.
Earth Clinic is a great site but the short coming here is what Hulda Clark expressed in all her books. You have to cleanse first. None of our great posters tell you that because it is hard and time consuming. Buy her book and do what she says. Then attack your health problem and you will find that it is a piece of cake.
I have totally run out of spit.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi ORH...I don't doubt what you say about the need to cleanse the intestines. But I would perhaps suggest some other methods, with reasons.
First, I think Hulda Clark did a huge amount of good to turn people's attention to poor intestinal health as a significant source for disease. I also recommend her coffee enemas and Parasite Cleanse which are very effective. But I would dispute(and loudly) any claim that probiotics, used just on its own, will cure candida. Here's why.
Your intestines is about 30 foot long and has the absorbtive surface area of a tennis court. Now think of taking just 1/4 tspn probiotics. If your candida and bad bacteria infect the whole length of your intestines -- all 30 ft(think tennis court) -- then the result and outcome of taking such a small amount of probiotics will be exactly the same as for the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae. They put up a magnificent fight against 100, 000 Persians, but in the end they were all killed to a man. Same with probiotics vs. candida. I have also never read any testimonial where probiotics on its own has actually cured candida. Probiotics might help you feel a little better for a while but it will not make a dent if you already have candida so extensively throughout the whole length of your intestines.
Now to the second reason why probiotics dont really work. Probiotics only acts in the intestines to kill candida and bad bacteria. So it will not kill bacteria or candida in the blood. Remember that candida is dimorphic and that the fungal form of candida inhabits the blood, tissues and organs as a true parasite. So what usually happens when you eventually stop taking the probiotics, is that the candida comes roaring back to infect the intestines from the blood.
That's why its better to use probiotics when you have got the number down. Please don't mistake my motives here. I like probiotics. But if you have a disease like systemic candida then it wont make a dent. You have to get the numbers down first, then you can try probiotics. I'm using probiotics at the moment. I'm using Lacto-Pafi(made in the Philippines and also sold in the US). This is made from fermented soy and contains high lacto as well as high amounts of minerals and amino acids. Doesn't taste bad either. I'm just mentioning this in case your thinking that I despise all probiotics.
The method I would really favour, regarding intestinal health, would be the method that Dr Max Gerson and William Kelly used. And that is buy using laxatives and coffeee enemas frequently. Using laxatives acts to clear both caked faeces as well as poisons throughout your whole intestines rapidly. Max Gerson was only allowed to work on people with Stage 4 cancers where the doctors had given up all hope. Despite that huge handicap, Gerson still had a 50% cure rate.
You can also use oxypowders if you want to clear the caking of faeces and gunk off your intestinal walls. Oxypowder is just a combination of oxide and peroxide of magnesium. This generates oxygen slowly during its passage through the intestines which not only acts to kill bad anaerobic pathogens but also acts to strip and clean the intestinal walls. And if you do take oxypowder then, after a while, it is likely that you will dump some strange looking stuff that looks like a long black snake. That's the caking being stripped off the intestinal walls. I've read the testimonials. Oxypowder also acts gently to remove the caking. There are several makes that you can use -- Oxypowder and Colosan are the most well known and its quite an easy protocol to follow.
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
HI U BILL, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , my post must not have been well written because I did not mention Candida. I do know that good gut flora works against Candida and is required for good health.
When I read Hulda Clark over ten years ago and got on this health kick, the first thing we got into were her cleanses. I did Dr Greys slow protocol and my wife used the best selling Oxy cleanse. Within a few days her protocol had released so many toxins that she went into a healing crisis and it took several colonics to get her over that. Now the problem may have been that because of her constipation that the toxins were not passed out upon release. In any case she switched over to the slow Holistic Horizions cleanse which worked wonders for her even though it took over three months.
You qualified Dr. Clarks work. Funny, the German medical folks have taken up her work full bore. Her theory that all cancer cells contain a micro organism is now accepted by The Independent Cancer Research Foundation, Inc.. And the reason I am addressing my cancer with the GB 4000 Plasma Rife Machine as one of my several protocols. The cure rate is reportedly @ 98% as the EMF just kills the micro organism and the cell reverts back healthy. My protocol will also address my candida and a mold that I have.
You are one fella that I follow and have great respect for. At the same time I've also been half-way around the watermelon and and will go with my logic following much research. Thank you for your counsel as it is always considered.
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
HI U BILL, , , , , , , SJS, and forgot to mention that for Candida in the blood I am doing Bob Beck's blood purification trick, along with Ozone ear and anal insufalation. I eat few sweets, but do have my afternoon martini, which I know feeds the little bastards.
In my last liver and gall flush followed by a coffee enema and Ozone anal insufalation, I passed about 6 or 8 large segmented candida. This tells me that candida has consumed me and causing leaky gut , etc., etc. We raise lots of fruit and berries at our little farm and I just can't give that sugar up. I'll fight them another way.
Also, the only pharmacy drug I take is Actos for my diabetes.
You do lots of good for folks on this site and I want to commend you for that. Your posts make me think. I fire for effect as all know.
Reading a lot , hoping it sticks. I read about charcoal capsules in many sites and these younguns can't stop the drink or the hangover. They found out if they take charcoal they get no hangovers. I wonder if ....
it would keep the sugar from entering where the buggers can eat it . You can have your drink and starve them too.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi ORH...Bob Becks gadget is quite useful but the Rife machine you have is even better I think. Ted uses a Rife machine too.
A few sincere tips for the diabetes problem. First take 1/2 tspn cinnamon powder three times a day. Take it in a drink like coffee or Ginger Tea or Green Tea. Take the cinnamon drink about 1/2 hour before you eat. Cinnamon does 2 special things. It sharpens up all the insulin receptors on your cells to increase sugar absorption into the cell itself and it prevents sugar spiking when you consume all those nasty but delicious wild berries that you shouldn't be eating. And if you're already taking daily Lugol's Iodine then that will also help against the diabetes. Dr Flechas from the Iodine Project also has a story to tell concerning how he stumbled upon LI curing a type 2 diabetes female patient that he was treating for a thyroid condition. Read his story here:
"It was while treating a large 320-pound woman with insulin dependent diabetes that we learned a valuable lesson regarding the role of iodine in hormone receptor function. This woman had come in via the emergency room with a very high random blood sugar of 1, 380 mg/dl. She was then started on insulin during her hospitalization and was instructed on the use of a home glucometer. She was to use her glucometer two times per day. Two weeks later on her return office visit for a checkup of her insulin dependent diabetes she was informed that during her hospital physical examination she was noted to have FBD. She was recommended to start on 50 mg ofiodine(4 tablets) at that time. One week later she called us requesting to lower the level of insulin due to having problems with hypoglycemia. She was told to continue to drop her insulin levels as long as she was experiencing hypoglycemia and to monitor her blood sugars carefully with her glucometer. Four weeks later during an office visit her glucometer was downloaded to my office computer, which showed her to have an average random blood sugar of 98. I praised the patient for her diligent efforts to control her diet and her good work at keeping her sugars under control with the insulin. She then informed me that she had come off her insulin three weeks earlier and had not been taking any medications to lower her blood sugar. When asked what she felt the big change was, she felt that her diabetes was under better control due to the use of iodine. Two years later and 70 pounds lighter this patient continues to have excellent glucose control on iodine 50 mg per day. We since have done a study of twelve diabetics and in six cases we were able to wean all of these patients off of medications for their diabetes and were able to maintain a hemoglobin A1C of less than 5.8 with the average random blood sugar of less than 100. To this date these patients continue to have excellent control of their Type II diabetes. The range of daily iodine intake was from 50 mg to 100 mg per day. All diabetic patients were able to lower the total amount of medications necessary to control their diabetes. Two of the twelve patients were controlled with the use of iodine plus one medication. Two patients have control of diabetes with iodine plus two medications. One patient had control of her diabetes with three medications plus iodine 50 mg. The one insulin dependent diabetic was able to reduce the intake of Lantus insulin from 98 units to 44 units per day within a period of a few weeks."
Second -- take Chanca piedra tea(why not mix in the cinnamon to make it interesting?) 3 or 4 times a day. Chanca piedra lowers blood sugar too. If you cant get the tea then just buy the organic powder and use 1/4 tspn per cuppa.
Chanca piedra does many wonderful things including getting rid of gallstones and kidney stones safely and easily. I think you also mentioned way back that you have low blood pressure. So a word of caution here -- if you take the chanca piedra please be aware that CP tends to lower blood pressure as well.
Here's another one for the candida in your blood. This means that you have the fungal form of candida in your blood, tissues and organs. Best way to stop the fungal candida dead in its tracks is to take another tea -- Gymnema sylvestre tea 2 or 3 times a day. Recent research has discovered that this tea completely inhibits the yeast form of candida morphing into the fungal form. It also stops the fungal form breeding. If you drink this tea then be aware that you will likely get a Herx reaction too. Also, on its own, the yeast form of candida is much easier to eliminate than the fungal form. As an encore, GS tea also lowers blood sugar safely, so this also fits in well with your diabetes problem too.
(Syracuse, New York)
Yes these so called " colon implants " are some other person unknowns POOP. Why on Earth would you EVER wish to expose yourself to EVERY virus and or other infectious agent some total stranger has been exposed to ?
Hepatitis B, a viral disease is but one of a very many diseases any person WILL become infected with if said colon implant is from a person who is infected with hepatitis B. And, one of every four people alive today is infected with the hepatitis B virus.
And that is only one of a VERY many diseases you can become infected with when you get a so called " colon implant ".
Simply drinking infested water has been a constant source of disease spreading down through the ages. The diseases you can become infected with are so very many I will not even attempt to name them all.
So PLEASE stop with this " colon implant " non-sense. This is PURE and very dangerous QUACKERY!!! ...Oscar
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
HI U OSCAR, , , , , , , , what in the world are you talking about? No where on this thread has feces implants been mentioned. I don't know you from Adam, but the word Quackery is a code used by by allopathics to discredit the folks who believe in natural healing. Presently the most famous is an Ivy League Psychiatrist who could not pass his boards and now makes his living testifying in medical trials as an expert. AYSM.
Go back and slowly read all the posts on this thread.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Oscar...I think that your fears about fecal transplants are unfounded. Obviously, if you decide to have a fecal transplant then you would go to a reputable health professional who would then fully test the donor's blood and feces for diseases like Hep B, Hep C, AIDS etc before transplanting the feces. This is really just common sense and is also part and parcel of the scientific method in transplant medicine to ensure safety to the recipient. What's more -- you should already know this fact. And if the feces and blood are indeed clear and healthy, then they would normally proceed with the fecal transplant.
Do you have a problem with this common scientific method for safety? Or do you think that it is inadequate?
Personally, I think that some allopathic health professional are pretty dumb -- but they not that dumb because they always, always test before they transplant anything into another person's body.
I've also read great things where people have been cured of many diseases of the gut -- including candida -- using fecal transplants from a healthy donor.
What you should also bear in mind is that your unqualified(no evidence) advice might just prevent a person from doing a fecal transplant. That could also mean no cure for his candida. And you'responsible for that. All because of your knee-jerk opinion about fecal transplants.
(Syracuse, New York)
I am glad you agree with me regarding so called " colon implants ". My posting was NOT a response in case you missed that.
I discussed the dangerous so called " colon implants ". I did NOT confuse it with all the coffee enemas and such. I was ONLY discussing people injecting other people`s poop into their colons and was clear about that....Oscar
(Syracuse, New York)
This warning about " colon implants " has gotten confused with helpful coffee enemas and other such stuff. That was never my intention.
My warning and concern is about people injecting other people`s poop into their colons. I always try and be very clear. I do not see how I could have been more clear about this.
I am happy to know that the other responder agrees with me about said dangers....Oscar
Hi Bill and Oscar,
Saw this recently when I was researching this subject for a friend whose son has been given two years to live before the drugs he has been given for ulcerative colitis destroys his liver. It looks promising! Hope this may give an alternative, and the research continues to find uses for other diseases.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Oscar...I'm not sure if anyone really agrees with you in this post stream about the dangers of "injecting poop" into the colon. Not sure who you are referring to.
I certainly don't agree with your viewpoint and opinions on this subject.
Please read my last post again. Carefully.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Timh...I did read about the fecal transplant pill awhile ago and I'm all for it. Interesting that it works on the same principle as the fecal transplant except that you take it by mouth with less fuss and expense than via the other end. This pill contains particularly beneficial fecal bacteria -- not probiotic bacteria necessarily -- and that's why the researchers are calling it an Ecobiotic.
As I've said, if this ecobiotic pill helps to cure candida and incurable C. diff as well as other significant gut problems then that's a useful invention which will likely help to end gut disease and misery for many sick people.
I have also found out that Ecobiotics is not so simple as probiotics. Here is some further description, in greater detail, on this interesting subject:
Could you post links to what you are saying about fecal transplants being dangerous? Everything I have read on the subject has been fairly positive and I haven't read anything that says that they are dangerous when used properly.
Here is a link to a recent case report that is typical of what I have read regarding fecal transplants and in some cases it has actually been lifesaving:
(Port Angeles, Washington)
Regarding fecal implants: I have a young relative who was very sick with Ulcerative Colitis and then hospitalized with a worsening case of C. Diff. It was a very grim situation. Her father became the fecal transplant donor. While the FT didn't cure the UC, it did cure a dangerous case of C. Diff. In her case, the fecal transplant was life saving when all other medicine was failing.
(Syracuse, New York)
Dear Art from California - I am responding because you MIGHT be my friend from BC.
I have NO faith or trust in either the medical establishment or the ALTERNATIVES community when it comes to QUALITY CONTROL. This is because of the infected blood transfusions I was given in 1968. Now there was NO test for hepatitis C back then. But there were tests for hepatitis A and B. I became infected with all three: Hepatitis A, B, and C. Whatever. Those blood transfusions did save my life back then. You go with what is available in an emergency situation. I had 24 blood transfusions in 1968.
I CURED those infections with BHT for what that is worth starting the BHT treatment in 1997.
After looking into these so called " fecal implants " it seems to me: You can get the benefits without the poop injections. There are companies selling the specific digestive bacteriums without the risks involved with a POOP TRANSPLANT.
If I was experiencing serious digestive problems diagnosed as a lack of said digestive organisms I would pay the money to have the required organisms introduced into my body by a for real medical doctor. These are NOT poop injections by some alternative medical practitioner.
MDs do have to cope with malpractice suits and are way more careful about such things. You can get the desired digestive microbes without the poop and all the rest said poop contains.
Just say NO to taking POOP from anyone....Oscar
Hi Oscar, No, I'm not Art from BC......I'm Art in California.
From what I have read, fecal transplants can be effective when other methods such as prebiotics, probiotics, resistant starch and fermented foods are not. I have not read anything to date that has said that they are dangerous when used correctly and their use seems to be much more common than just three years ago. The number of case studies employing them is also increasing considerably.
I don't currently need one myself, but if I had a health condition that was not improving or was worsening using other methods, I would certainly consider it for myself . Art
Would like to hear from Bill, please. I know this is an old thread but I have been thinking about it since I first saw the posting of it and I was trying to remember if a source for these implant pills was mentioned or not. If not, Bill, could you recommend somewhere reputable to get them? I thank you very much in advance. Do you feel this may also help in addition to following your protocol for candida?
If you haven't looked at ibsgroup.org, try that site for fecal implant information. They have a tab just for this--many people make their own capsules and do various other kinds of infusions. I don't think a dr will have this yet, but it's an up and coming procedure so maybe one day we'll have this option.
Hi Cindy...I'm pretty sure that there are no fecal transplant pills out yet and the reason is that they have not finished testing them. See this link. There are several Universities and small companies involved in this research but I reckon the major drugs companies -- all the usual suspects -- are just not interested in a pill like this because there is just no way that they could manufacture a synthetic fecal transplant pill equivalent -- so no patent licensing is possible and so no interest. But there are some Universities and smaller independent companies who are doing the research right now.
Fleet Enema Warning
In reply to Pondera (Juneau, Ak) on 04/11/2010 who used a Fleet enema in the eczema section under Apple Fasting here:
DO NOT EVER USE A FLEET ENEMA!
The chemicals in the enema can be dangerous. I used one once and it causes me to cramp and strain so bad I could not stop and ended up passing blood to the point I went to the hospital. Of course they misdiagnosed me in spite of me telling them what caused it and sent me home with a bunch of toxic drugs. One of which was Cipro (which no one should ever take if there is any other option as it has been known to cause tendons to snap). 2 years later 1 tendon snapped and one tore and now I have an ugly looking bicep, the required surgery to fix, however due to my negative experience with Doctors I passed on the surgery.
It could have all been avoided if I had not used a fleet Enema!
Again, this is a question directed to Bill. I was wondering what your experience has been with turpentine, iodine, and other special types of enemas. Have these therapies been effective in your experience? I think the iodine enema is a definite yes for me. I'm wondering more about the turpentine. Since turpentine is such a heavy surfactant and antipathogenic substance, would it not also have the ability to wipe out the rest of your gut flora, including the beneficial microbiota? If so, would it also be wise to enema with probiotics following a course of turpentine enema?
Do you have recommendations as far as enema usage in general? Would combinations of lugols, turpentine, and castor oil aid in these functions? What would the ideal methodology be with this type of usage?
Thanks so much for your work and knowledge!
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Silversurfer...Enemas are useful but they have their limits against candida if you are using nutritional supplements from the other end as well.
Also, from my own experience with the autistic group that I am helping at the moment, who take lots of supplements (MMS, Hulda Clark PP, MMS enemas), many of them suddenly hit a brick wall and make no further progress using these protocols. The explanation for this problem is a fairly long one, so bear with me.
In order to understand the above problems, first it should be realized that the adult human intestines is about 30 ft long with an absorption area the size of a tennis court.
This means that the intestines is quite long with a huge and efficient absorbition surface area that is mainly due to the internal convolutions or folds, villi and microvilli of the inner intestinal surface. This ability to efficiently absorb nutrients and particularly the length and area of the intestines can also work against the candida sufferer whenever they have a serious and extensive candida issues with added bacteria and parasite problems in the gut.
So here is my explanation.
Whenever you take any nutrient orally, for instance, borax water ? then how much of it is absorbed directly into the blood and how much acts in the intestines to kill pathogens? It is well known that borax is absorbed quickly and used up in the body. This applies to all other nutrients as well.
Given the above, then it is probably correct to assume that Borax will only ever act and have benefit on the first third of the upper intestines to kill pathogens but will not act throughout the whole of the intestines to kill candida, parasites and other pathogens. This will also apply to all other candida kill or parasite kill nutrients that are also supplemented. My belief is that these nutrients will either be absorbed into the blood, exhausted or neutralized after travelling only the first upper third of the upper intestines(the first 10 feet of the intestines).
But what about enemas? Unfortunately, exactly the same argument applies here as above. These enemas will only ever successfully act and be effective at killing pathogens and parasites in the lower third of the intestines(the last 10 feet of the intestines).
So what?s left? It becomes glaringly apparent to me that the middle portion of the intestines(the middle 10 feet) from a person with candida is the area that is both untouched and unreachable by both oral nutrients and by enemas. So this middle region of the intestines appears to be the hidden powerhouse for pathogens, candida and parasites, allowing these pathogens to freely breed and continue to pump their waste toxin poisons unabated into the body.
In other words -- the middle region of the intestines acts as an untouched and unreachable safe-haven for all parasites, fungus and pathogens.
The above description seems to also adequately explain why a person with serious candida issues hits a brick wall and can make no further progress no matter what they try because that middle region of the intestines is left untreated and untouched by any protocol.
A possible solution to the above problems is to use a nutrient protocol that:
* Only acts throughout the whole intestines against candida, parasites and pathogens
* Is not absorbed so quickly into the blood.
There are only a few nutrient protocols that manage to fulfill the above criteria and these are:
This is why I also strongly favour the use of laxatives against candida. Both turpentine and castor oil also have laxative action. Simultaneously, turpentine and CO also kill candida and other pathogens and remove biofilms as well while, at the same time, castor oil will help to slow absorption and also help to spread the turpentine throughout the intestines quickly and evenly because of its laxative effects. This protocol therefore successfully acts to get rid of pathogens throughout the WHOLE length of the intestines -- including the middle region of the gut. If you don't treat and eliminate the pathogens from the middle portion of the intestines then this can be a major reason why candida never goes away or just keeps coming back.
Here's a doc that I wrote recently that, for clarity, describes in detail just the candida-kill and pathogen-kill protocols that I advise. This doesn't show the full candida protocol but just shows and explains in detail how to take Lugol's Iodine, Borax, Alkalizing and the Turpentine/CO protocols. You should take all these protocols if you have serious candida problems.
Hopefully this will help people to more understand these protocols a little better. See doc below:
Recommended Candida/Pathogen Kill Protocols.
These protocols will kill candida and other involved pathogens both in the intestines and in the blood, tissues and organs. It will also remove biofilms in the intestines. Also kills parasites, detoxes heavy metals and helps to boost the immune system.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
...Just to further also add that research also indicates that supplemented turpentine or kerosene will not harm the beneficial microbiota in the gut.
Thanks for a thorough response. I will definitely be instituting the turpentine/co into my protocols. I start slow with some of the other remedies, building up over time, and eventually add some of the harder hitters in. This is of course after all dietary considerations have been made.
So am I hearing from your response that you do not recommend enemas? Or that using them can be helpful albeit incomplete?
From my standpoint, if I can definitively ensure that I am keeping candida and other pathogens to a bare minimum in 2/3rds of the intestines, that is a big step. It may also alleviate other die off symptomology if done in stages to address parts of the intestines at a time while slowly increasing the mechanisms of action in intensity by adding new strategies to the protocol over time. My time frame would be probably be in ~3 week intervals to add something like turpentine to the mix.
For myself, I started with the protocol from your book, minus the turpentine, which I have lying in wait for the right time. I plan to begin using the turpentine this week. I already feel a lot better but I acknowledge that you are probably right in that the mid intestines is still probably housing pathogens. I have made great gains in the recent 4 weeks and I have no doubt that my progress will continue with the turpentine usage and enemas.
A little background about me. I told you before I am a nutritionist. I utilize detoxification tools a lot and I guinea pig myself for all of the protocols that I put together for my clients as well. That being said, I masked the root cause (chronic candidiasis) by clearing heavy metals and other toxins on a regular basis without digging at that nagging issue. All the while, I had less effects with some of my protocols which puzzled me up until now. This was over a period of years. Looking back, I ignored many symptoms that were glaringly obvious candidiasis. Maybe I was in denial.
Anyways, almost all of my symptoms have disappeared on your protocol (CHRONIC jock itch, anxiety, brain fog) even without the turpentine. Now, I plan to add the turpentine and castor oil to the protocol. I have been using undecenoic acid on and off during the protocol, which is an extract from castor oil. As a side note, I wonder what you think of undecenoic acid vs straight castor oil. I am planning on keeping this program going for another 2-3 months. I have been at it for about 4 weeks now. I have really been at it for longer since I did my old candida clearance protocol before hand which really only focuses on intestinal candidiasis. I realize now that that protocol was inadequate for complete clearance.
Anyways, thanks again for your valuable responses.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Silversurfer...By all means take enemas. If you accept that candida has two dimorphic forms -- a fungal form and a yeast form -- then you must also take oral nutrients and enemas for direct absorption in to the blood as well in order to kill the fungal form.
The yeast or saprophytic form inhabits locally -- skin, intestines, vagina etc. The fungal form inhabits the blood, tissues and organs because it is a true parasite -- so nutrients like LI, borax and alkalizing will also be necessarily absorbed into the blood to actively kill candida everywhere else in the body as well. This is all part of the protocol. These two different forms of candida are also described at length in my book.
The big mistake most people make with their own candida treatments is to wrongly assume that candida just locally infects their intestines or uterus or skin. The truth is that if these people have had their 'local' problems for years or even decades then these local infections must be seen as direct routes into the body(infecting the blood) where their candida problem may have further developed into the fungal form -- the systemic or disseminated form -- which more or less infects everywhere in the blood, tissues and organs as well.
That's also why you have to use a multi-protocol -- to eradicate all forms of candida -- both the yeast form and the systemic fungal form -- from the whole body. And that's not so easy because if you don't kill or eradicate the fungal form in the blood -- then, even if you manage to get rid of all the yeast locally in your intestines or uterus or skin for a while, the fungal form still in the blood will come back in and just re-populate the intestines or skin or uterus -- and you have yet more reasons why your candida never goes away but just keeps coming back every time.
Therefore, one of the most vital questions to ask any candida sufferer is “How long have you had your candida problems?”. If the answer is years or decades then they will probably also have systemic or fungal candida in their blood as well and that's why topical approaches to their “local” yeast problems will never work.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
...Just to also add that I would definitely use the undecanoic acid as well. But it will probably suffer the same fate as any other oral nutrient and be used up within the first ten foot of travel down the intestines.
A better way of using the undecanoic acid would perhaps be to just to open the capsule and add it to the turpentine/CO remedy when you take it. The castor oil will simply help to spread it around more effectively in the intestines (like the turpentine) and this might give a more widespread, beneficial effect.
I'm currently waiting on a delivery of Boswellia serrata -- Frankincense powder -- from a good Ayurvedic source (http://www.indiaabundance.com/) which also has strong action against candida. I'll be testing that remedy soon.
Thanks for the added tips. I was not aware that boswelia had anti-fungal properties before this. I recommend boswelia on a fairly regular basis to my clients for pain and inflammation with good success. I look forward to hearing how effective it is as a tool for candidiasis per your observations.
So after reading through these responses, my question would then be what would the ideal enema program be to match the nutrients being taken orally in your book. If I was to use Borax, alkalizing formula, LI, CO, Turpentine, and most of the supporting nutrients orally, what would the best corresponding enema program look like? Options?
I am really wondering whether LI, turpentine, co, etc can be mixed into an enema and used safely and effectively for the lower intestines. And possibly followed up with probiotic infused enemas to replenish gut bacteria quickly.
Bill, this is a generic question. What about pre soaking whatever one is using with psyllium husk or similar and imbibing that. This would seem like something that would work against not only fungus but other pathogens. I do plan on doing my first enema ever today. I plan on using stuff like AMP and uvi ursi in alkaline solution. Enemas only hit half way up the descending colon. I need to disinfect my rectum and sigmoid. I can imagine that sludge buildup around that area would protect infections more.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Prioris...Its quite common to use a sodium bicarbonate mixture with psyllium/water to alkalize the intestines but, as you suggest, you can use other nutrients as well. And you're quite right, using psyllium like this as a sort of slow release vehicle that releases the ingredients that you add to the psyllium slowly thereby more more efficiently treating the whole intestines.
I also see no reason why you cannot mix nutrients like iodine, coconut oil, undecanoic acid or just borax water etc directly into the psyllium before you add the water. These nutrients will be absorbed and stored in the psyllium to later be released more slowly and beneficially throughout the intestines.
Other different variations, such as making one liter of tea from Gymnema sylvestre and just adding the following nutrients:
Borax(1/8 for women or 1/4 tspn for men)
1 tablespoon ACV
One squeezed lemon or lime
Vitamin C powder (3, 000mgs),
MSM (1/2 tspn)
Glutamine (500 mgs)
Add Sodium Bicarbonate until the fizzing stops.
You can also add 1 to 3 tspns of psyllium husks to this drink on a per glass basis whenever you drink it for a more longer lasting beneficial effect throughout the intestines. This is a highly effective drink against candida.
This drink is strongly anti-fungal(Borax, GS), repairs the intestines(MSM, Vit C, Glutamine), alkalizes the body, immune booster, reduces blood sugar(GS).
Drink this throughout the day on a 5 days on 2 days off basis because of the borax. This is a very easy way of taking these important nutrients. You know about most of these ingredients already but the Gymnema sylvestre(GS) is important and useful and well known to revert the fungal form of candida back to the yeast form which is much easier to treat. This remedy effectively shuts down and removes the more virulent fungal candida form mainly because of the GS tea. GS also removes sugar from the blood -- that's why it's also particularly useful for diabetics.
If you prefer you can also just subtract the borax from the above remedy and just add in Lugols Iodine(8 drops) and drink this every day for good effect.
The iodine form of this drink acts as a strong, wide-acting anti-pathogen(LI), helps low or hypothyroid problems(LI), immune booster(LI), repairs intestines(MSM, LI, Vit C, glutamine), reduces blood sugar(GS) etc.
Or you could simply drink the borax form and the iodine form of this drink on alternate days without problems for a wider beneficial effect.
Also please be aware that you should never mix borax and Iodine together in the same drink or take them at the same time.
I would also recommend enemas as you suggest, but I still believe that the turps/CO protocol is probably the only protocol that is able to spread the turps(or any other nutrient that will dissolve in CO) evenly throughout the whole area of the intestines. The trick here is not to keep increasing the turps dosage -- but keep increasing the castor oil dosage until you have a full and strong laxative effect throughout the whole intestines to quickly clear out the candida, heavy metals, parasites, other poisons, biofilms etc from this region. You should only do this full strength laxative protocol once a week.
On other days take the same dose of turps (1 tspn) with only 1 tablespoon of castor oil. I use this latter dose as my "quieter" maintenance dose once a week only. It tends to just loosen the stool. But you can use this version one on a day on, day off basis. Then I will occasionally use the full and strong laxative protocol (1 tspn turps, 3 to 4 tablespoons CO) to clear up any build up or problems in my intestines. This stronger laxative version is very effective and works quite well but I really wouldn't stray too far from a toilet if you are using the full strength laxative version of the turps/CO laxative protocol...
To clear out the colon/lower intestines area, have you ever considered colonic irrigation?
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Silversurfer...Regarding Boswellia, it was Ted from Bangkok who gave me that tip in an email recently which is why I wanted to test it on myself. I received the Boswellia and yesterday tried 1/2 tspn of the powder in a tea which was the Ayurvedic recommendation. It tends to clump together and tastes a bit gritty like sand -- not very soluble or miscible in water. So next I'll try mixing it with turps and take it like that -- the Boswellia resin powder should be completely soluble in turps.
Regarding enemas, I really wouldn't try anything fancy, I would use the standard enemas on there own like hydrogen peroxide, sodium bicarbonate, coffee enema etc. I must also confess that I haven't yet tried any enema yet, because I've never needed to use one. I would probably favour the coffee enema of Max Gerson which also helps to detox the liver so well. The sodium Bicarbonate enema is also a good one from the accounts I've read and there are even a few that use turpentine.
I would also never use or supplement LI together with turpentine in any instance as they react somewhat vigorously together which causes an exothermic (heat generating) reaction that might be explosive. Borax is also not chemically compatible when mixed with Iodine. please be careful what you mix together.
For a useful, full account of what you can use in remedy combos by Ted from Bangkok(who is a qualified biochemist) -- see this post stream on EC:
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Cindy...Any form of organic, pressed castor oil will do. I use organic castor oil made by Sweet Sunnah which you can buy on Ebay.
I always take the castor oil with turpentine now. Two ways to take it.
Take 1 tspn turps with 1 tablespoon castor oil. This will just loosen your stool(that's what it does for me anyway). This can be taken once a week or on a day on, day off basis. I call this the Gentle Turpentine Protocol.
Then there is the second method of taking this protocol which you can take for serious candida issues in your gut once a week. This is the full blown laxative version -- 1 tspn turpentine and 3 to 4 tablespoons(depending on your size/weight). If you decide to take this version then make sure you're on a free day and ensure that there is a toilet within easy reach. Take this version only once a week. Very effective at killing large amounts of candida, parasites, bacteria, removing biofilm etc and expelling them quickly -- all in one laxative protocol. Cleans and disinfects the whole intestines in one stroke.
Just to also emphasize that the above protocol is only useful for clearing the gut of candida and other pathogens. But you will still have to take other nutrients -- LI, Borax, Alkalizing -- to kill the fungal candida form in the blood, tissues and organs. If you don't do this, the fungal candida form will just come back and reinfect the intestines from the blood.
Just to also repeat, from the research, that turpentine does not kill the beneficial bacteria in the gut.
From what I understand, colonic irrigation has to be done by someone with special equipment. It is aimed at doing more of the colon than an enema can do. I am aiming at infections in the rectum and around sigmoid portion of colon so enema should be enough. I need to repeat the enema daily until infection eliminated. Colonic irrigations I think of as one time annual thing and it would cost money.
Besides infection near sigmoid, I have also had tailbone inflammation for some years and I suspect that it is related to the rectum. I can experiment with different things also. That area of my body is one area I never dealt with.
Thanks for the confirmation about the psyllium husk stuff along with all the suggested recipes.
Excellent info! Can't thank you enough Bill!
Do you think one needs to do a pre-cleanse of any sort prior to doing both the Castor Oil + Turp intestinal flush, and the LI, Borax, Alkalizing protocols (for cleaning out the entire body)?
I'm not suffering from any major symptoms, and I'm not constipated. My biggest complaints would be cravings for sweets, and not having enough energy throughout the day. However, I recently came to realize that a fungus or something was lurking in my system when I started taking several supplements as outlined by you and Ted for IGH (Idiopathic Guttate Hypomelanosis, aka white spots)... had an extreme reaction that seemed almost like an allergy. Terrible swollen itchy red rashes that weeped on my face... no previous history of eczema. It's been about 10 weeks now since the rash first appeared and since then it has followed a pattern of flaring up, clearing up, and then flaring and clearing up again... with each flare up being less in intensity. The last flair up was quite mild, and now only 1 of the 3 patches flairs up... the other 2 are gone (for now anyway). What seemed to clear it up best this last time was topically applying Olive Leaf Extract. However, it's now clear to me that my body needs a more complete cleansing, and I think the Castor Oil + Turp intestinal flush, along with LI, Borax, Alkalizing will go a long way in cleansing my entire body.
My long-term plan is to follow your complete protocol described in "Candida: Killing So Sweetly" next summer (when I will have more time to commit to the process). But for now it would be great to take a month and do intestinal flushes on the weekends, and the full body protocols daily.
Please let me know if you think this is not the way to go... Otherwise, I'm excited to start the cleansing... and hope the die off / Herx reactions aren't too extreme as I cannot take any sick days! Thanks, and keep up the great work :)
I would like to asked some question. Yesterday afternoon my orders arrive from iherb. :) so happy! Den at night I took my first dose of bentiontie clay and psyllium husk(whole) is tastless bu taste yucky! colon cleanser separte. Like 5 mins apart. Den after that I keep drinking water. And de thing is i've pain in my stomach but not really pain like going I thought is i'm going to have bowel movement like that. But no, nothing came out. So I went toilet to pee, den there's this mucus things coming out from my vaginal, i'm sure is not discharge! :) but the mucus smell like poop!! Am I passing out my bowel movement through mucus? I finally figure out!! Omg.. I think must be smelling my mucus discharge.. :( I also can smell it too when it suddenly come out. that y ppl say I didnt wipe my backside! :X isit normal to have mucus from vaginal discharge? I also brought grapefruit seed extract liquid (will not be here till next week)!!! Coz they say only mon evening (south california time) den will ship out. our difference s one day apart! So meaning my things will be shipped out till tues(my day) den today I took one tablespoon of husk again and there's more mucus discharge. But i'm not having any real bowel movement yet. Anyone encounter any mucus discharge from vag after doing colon cleansing. Almost fainted while doing this. Coz I didn't eat. And it say must do a fasting for 2 days but for I eat a little biscut den I waited for an hour before drinking husk. I'm going to do for 7-14 days 3 times a week! How long did u manage to get bowel movement after drinking husk? those who wans to buy from iherb first time buyer can used my coupon code $5 off!! For first time buyer. Just msg or email me. :) thanks.
(Broken Hill, Australia)
If only we knew what was impacting our mcs the most. I have a liver profile that shows phase 1 too strong and phase 2 too slow and low. Did a liver flush as per Dr Huldas last week and was ILLER ILLER than usual next day. Should I continue? Also spent a year doing coffee enemas but my liver profile shows I cant clear caffeine properly. I know an enema isnt the same as drinking it but there must be some absorption because if I do it late it sure does keep me awake. Any thoughts? You can just imagine, if you cant clear caffeine what it must be like trying to clear petrol or perfume.
Coffee enemas should not keep you up or stimulate you when done properly because they are not supposed to be absorbed into the blood stream.
Try one at a time: 1) decreasing the amount of water used in brewing; 2) decreasing the amount of coffee used; 3) decreasing the high of your enema bag/bucket so the mixture stays in your lower colon only.
Phase I liver detoxification may be slowed down by ingesting grapefruit. This is sometimes a problem for people on medications as when not broken down at the normal rate, the drug blood-levels may become too high, so pharmaceutical package inserts sometimes warn patients to not eat grapefruit (the active ingredient of which is a substance called naringenin).
In addition, Curcumin (aka Turmeric extract) will both reduce Phase I liver detoxification and increase Phase II liver detoxification (reference, see: http://tuberose.com/Liver_Detoxification.html or http://www.gilbertssyndrome.com/detoxification.php).
D-Limonene (orange oil) stimulates both phase 1&2 detox. Sulphoraphane, found most abundantly in Broccoli sprout extracts is a major phase 2 booster and indirectly boost phase 1 thru glutathione protection.
Dr. Weil released an article stating that supplemental sulphoraphane was almost completely ineffective for detox. Only a few minutes of steaming the mature Broccoli heads was effective. But this contradicts many other studies that show that Broccoli sprouts are anywhere from 20-50 times glucosinolates levels compared to mature plant and are therefore much more effective antioxidants.
Personally, I must agree with the sprout extracts. For yrs I ate cooked mature cabbage and Broccoli with no noticeable effect. After purchasing and consuming the sprout extracts only a few months ago, I can easily feel the benefits.
Acording to research, green organic coffee is MUCH more effective than the regular organic coffee. (For me, there seems to be a much greater amount of gelatinous residue produced from the liver during the cleanse than with the regular coffee) See this article for more information. http://howtocoffeeenema.info/s-a-wilsons-therapy-blend
Although it is difficult to lie on your right side for an hour, it is very important to keep it a low flow, slow enema, as the article says. This keeps the enema in the lowest part of the bowel so it can stimulate the liver to release the toxins. If a coffee enema is given too high in the colon, it seems to me that it would stimulate you and not the liver. A word of caution though, green coffee enemas leave a terrible blue black stain. It can be removed with bleach, but I prefer more natural means of sanitizing so I use dark colors to avoid the stain.
I would also recommend making (or for those lucky stiffs still employed, buying) an enema board like the Coloma board. A board is SOOO much more comfortable and sanitary than lying on the floor or in bed to do enemas. I made my own enema board using pictures of enema boards from the internet as my guide. I used two wooden boards as a base and (for lack of a better word) a "cap catch" from a Styrofoam water faucet cover which I cut to shape and covered with several coats of a clay made from the pink spackling (4 parts to one of the white Elmer's type glue to make it harder and stronger). I then sanded it smooth and attached it with spray foam insulation. When the board was done, I spray painted it with high-gloss, dark brown enamel so it is easy to sterilize.