Fleas
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Natural Flea Control

Waxed Myrtle Leaves
Posted by Paul (Jacksonville, Florida) on 12/12/2012
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For fleas - rub your pets with waxed mrytle leaves, then throw some small branchs of leaves behind furniture and in front of your return air handler. Fleas, mosqitoes and ticks do not like the smell and will find their way out of your place. It is a wild evergreen that can grow to 18-20 foot. Some people will have a skin rash if they touch it. It has a light evergreen smell but does not look like an evergreen tree it has leaves. It grows along ditchs and in dry areas. If you crush the leaf in your hand and it smells evergreen you found it.


Keep Dryer Lint Filter Clean
Posted by Wendy (Columbus, Oh/usa) on 11/13/2012

All the more reason to remove ALL lint from the lint trap after using the dryer each and every time! And, one could also clean the lint trap in white vinegar. I also have been adding Eucalyptus liquid soap to my wash which kills fleas. And, it smells good! (The smell does not stay on the clothes).


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Betkawetka (Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, USA) on 08/05/2012 2 posts
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Wanted to share a flea remedy that I discovered by accident. Used DE as a powder on cats for flea control, put about a 1/2 tsp along spine and work into their fur making sure that chin and tail, anus area gets covered. USE ONLY FOOD GRADE. Found it at local farm feed store. Also added DE to cat litter, add one cup to 2 inches of litter along with one cup baking soda to control odor and lightly mix it on. Do not breath DE dust. Also mix DE with laundry Borax flakes and use on floors, carpets, and in baseboard cracks to stop all pests, along with fleas. Use a broom or carpet rake to work powder into deep fibers and leave it after a week vacumm it up and re-apply. Worked great for massive flea outbreak in South Florida Summer of 2011.

Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Skoecher45 (Duquette, Mn, Usa) on 11/04/2012
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I have a dog and a cat. Both spend time indoors and out. Earlier this summer I had a terrible infestation of fleas in the house. Tried many things until I came to read about useing Diatomaceous Earth (food grade). Sprinkled it throughout the house on the carpet (that's all my house has except for in the basement). Left it there for two weeks (had to leave, otherwise would of vacuumed it up sooner). Two weeks and serveral days later I have finally gotten rid of the fleas. No more bites on my ankles (which had cleared up in the two weeks I was gone). Animals don't have them either. Before leaving I was already putting the DE in my pets hair and will continue to use it as a deterrent for fleas and ticks. I'm sold on the stuff. Dog might have Ear Mites but so far the DE doesn't seem to work.

It (DE) also appears to be working well for getting rid of spiders... no more spider webs on the stairs leading to the basement (split entry house).

Looking forward to seeing how this stuff works on our pets during tick season.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Rika (Riverside, Ca) on 07/03/2013

I'm having a flea problem in our bathroom (small just where the toilet is) I put DE all around the toilet bowl and some on the floor itself. But the fleas still jumping on me. Why are they in the bathroom anyways? That's actually where they're are the worst. They're still jumping in the DE. Does it take a few days or is there another solution? Thanks.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Rae Ann (California) on 07/03/2016

We had fleas that kept biting in the bathroom. It turned out that possums were under the bathroom area of the house and the fleas were coming up through cracks.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Suseeq (Sydney Australia) on 07/04/2016

Rae Ann, did you pour salt down those cracks?


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Lisa (Fl) on 02/17/2018

Try neem oil for mites. It's working on my latest batch of stray kittens that lost hair between ears and eyes with tiny pinpoint red scabby dots. Vet told me she'd have to do a scraping to determine which med to prescribe. It's possible neem kills all mites by suffocation. Thick food grade coconut oil kills lice by suffocation...may kill mites too. Be very careful not to get neem in their eyes because it is an eye irritant.


Borax, Baking Soda
Posted by Kathie (Houston, Tx / Usa) on 02/03/2012
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I make my own carpet powder (for sprinkling on my rugs before I vacuum). I mix half borax (20 team mule) and half baking soda along with a few drops of essential oils (I like lavander and a touch of lemongrass).

I feel like this will keep down the bugs (like mites, fleas and maybe any other gross things! - because we have pets), absorb odor and add a fresh scent. I also put this mixture on our sofa (the cat sleeps on it... ) I then put on rubber gloves and rub it in, then vacuum.


Stash Earl Grey Tea
Posted by Heather (Katy, Tx) on 05/21/2011

I've heard that Stash Earl Grey tea gets rid of fleas in the home from several people now. I haven't tried it yet, but thought I'd put that out there for anyone who needs another idea to try. Open the bags and sprinkle on the carpet. Vacuum up in a few days. Sometimes the pets will even roll in it, which helps keep the fleas off them, as well! For those with very light carpets, please test small area first.... although this tip came from someone with white carpets and she had no problems.


Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Rondamommie (Kansas City, Mo, Usa) on 11/11/2010

I am reading the flea bath for cats suggestions here. Today I only have borax on hand and ACV... I do Not have Hydrogen Peroxide on hand. I have read through Ted's suggestions for remedies. Will it work to give my cats a bath/dip in only a Borax solution? Do I need the Hydrogen Peroxide for it to be effective? Can I substitute ACV or white vinegar and get the same results?

I also wish to treat my yard effectively. Can anyone recommend a solution they have effectively used? I do not have the Hydrogen Peroxide for the yard treatment recommended either. Can I use plain Borax, liquid or dry???, in my yard. Shall I combine it with something else?

I would appreciate anyone's experience with this! Best, Ronda


Amethyst
Posted by TERRY (ON) on 07/07/2023

You can buy something called lufenuron. This is the active ingredient in flea medication without the poison fillers. I get it from owndoc dot com. It's about 35 bucks canadian. It's a small bag of white powder. Put it in your pets food. They don't even notice it. About a teaspoon treats all my 5 cats when they eat. Same with the dog. That little bag does me for two years. One treatment or two tops. You won't get fleas in your house either. I've been using it for years.


Amethyst
Posted by Kathy (Melbourne, Vic, Australia) on 06/06/2010
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Yea - Didn't really believe it would work, but I had tried everything from teatree oil, flea collars, the tubes you squeeze on your dogs back - yet nothing seemed to get rid of my dogs fleas. I read the posts on amethyst and having some amethyst at home, decided to give it a try. I also gave my dog a wash with ACV (only once). I gave my dog a wash a week later, and was shocked to see not one flea. This was months ago now, and have been through the summer months without any more fleas!! My cats also share the same drinking water and they too are thriving without fleas. Can't believe it but it really does work.


Cedarwood Oil
Posted by Dvillekat (Douglasville, Ga) on 07/26/2012

I would like to know how to dilute the cedarwood oil so it can be applied to the skin as a repelent for fleas and mosquitos. Also what is the mixture of cedarwood for spraying the carpet.


Borax
Posted by Froopy Dude (Orlando, Fl) on 09/17/2010
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Absolutely true. Borax was recommended by a very humane vet. He said that it is the same substance vets sell for over $50. Borax is not quick - can take up to six weeks - but it truly does kill fleas. As stated, just apply it to carpet.


Dish Soap
Posted by Rose (Sydney Nsw, Australia) on 03/14/2013

Please can anyone please tell me where I can purchase dawn dish soap, I live in Sydney australia, and I have tried everywhere but cannot find it.


Dish Soap
Posted by Tammie (Hickman, KY) on 05/23/2009
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I TRIED THE DISH SOAP AN IT WORKED. IT KILLED THE FLEAS BUT THE FLEAS WERE HARD TO GET OFF. ALL I DID WAS WET MY BABY AN PUT ALOT OF DISH SOAP ON HER AN LET IT SET FOR 10MINS. WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO GET THE FLEAS OFF HER THANKS

EC: Try a flea comb!

Dish Soap
Posted by Tracy (Nazareth, Pennsylvania) on 08/22/2012

Ok I am trying the bowl and dawn soap. I am using glow sticks. So now my question is I have a flea infestation. Now my question is everybody on the site has animals I don't have any animals. I do live in a rural area so I have some pests under my house I try and close the holes but the did another one. They say fleas are extremely bad this year. I have a 11yr old and 21 living in the house. I myself have 4th stage metastac breast cancer. So what are your suggestions for me?


acv
Posted by Romana (Chaparral, Otero County) on 02/10/2009
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I would like to Thank you for having this web site!! For those who have no idea how ACV works wonders on cats .. I use it for a flea spray and none of my pets have ever had fleas or ticks . Thanks R.L.W & kitty crew Chaparral N.M

Dish Soap
Posted by KENDRA (Anjung-ri, South Korea) on 01/26/2009
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my husband just recently rescued a stray dog from a vet. the dog is about two months old and has been living with us for a week now. i just recently noticed black specs all over the dog in its fur. so i kept searching and i found a flea... i read to use ___ dish soap so i did. i only found two dead fleas and that one that was alive, so it worked.... but i have hard wood floors so i swept and mopped with water, pinesol, and dawn dish soap... i also washed all the bedding in the house. we couldn't find any dead fleas or alive ones on the floor. do you think we could possibly have a flea problem on our hands... what should we do??? should we use frontline on our puppy and our other dog who doesn't have fleas??? also is there some type of lotion i can put on the dogs skin because it seemed to dry his skin out??? thank you so much for your time!!!

Dish Soap
Posted by Brenda (Columbus, Ms) on 01/27/2009
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I was told about JOY dish soap for fleas. I have used it several times on my dogs and it worked great. During bath time, I found dead fleas in the water. I haven't noticed any drying of the skin. I only used it 2 times for one week. You can also use lavender oil to keep fleas off your pets and their bedding. Just rub a cotton ball with lavender oil down their back. This works for me and it smells nice too.


Dish Soap
Posted by Rossi (Alameda, Ca) on 11/07/2009

Lavender oil or any essential oil should NEVER be used on cats. Their bodies cannot metabolize essential oils and they cause liver damage. It's proved fatal to some cats. More information: http://www.thelavendercat.com/


Dish Soap
Posted by Dorinha (Ottawa, Ontario) on 10/31/2012

That drying of the skin, is not actually drying of the skin.... Someone gave me a dog once that was flea infested, I found out later that the lady that had her before me, purposely did not tell me about the fleas, or that the dog had suffered fleas for the 5 years she had her, and she did nothing about it. So, I didnt think it would be hard to get rid of fleas, so I washed the dog in dawn dish soap, and did a flea treatment in my home. But little did I know... That dry skin I thought she had from the bath, was actually the eggs falling out in clumps, had I know then what that was, I would of done a flea treatment daily. But I was stupid because I hadn't dealt with fleas before.... So, a woman took the dog off my hands, she was more financially capable of caring for the dog.... Months later, I do not have any animals, but I am getting bit like crazy by fleas. I have no dryer, only a washer, I have been washing my clothes and bedding in hot water, I have sprayed Raid every two days, I put diatomaceous earth out at the baseboards, set traps, and put bowls of pure apple cider vinegar out in each room. The one thing I have noticed, is that they are localized to the bedrooms on the bed. I feel like throwing all my bedding and mattress out. My daguther gets bit a tiny bit, but ME, I look like I have the friggen chicken pox. I am so itchy, and pimples are EVERYWHERE. I vaccumme my bed EVERYDAY and wash my blanket every 3 days in laundry detergent AND in Dawn Dishwashing liquid!! How the hell can they survive with everything that I am doing, I have been sufferring this for months, can anyone help me????? One thing I do have to mention, is I never get bitten unless I am in my bed. Thats the place it has localized to.

They are like little friggen superfleas! Nothing seems to work!! I am also a single mom, I don't have the money to cab it to a laundry mat, and pay a bunch of money for the cab and then laundry... So I need some advice on how to get rid of these things, like an add on, or a cream for me and my daughter so I can stop looking like I have the chicken pox!!!


Dish Soap
Posted by Mary (NY, NY) on 01/28/2023

The pet store near me sells a flea spray that contains peppermint oil. The clerk said the fleas hate peppermint oil. Or you can make a spray with 1 drop peppermint oil and water in a spray bottle and spray it on your bed and around the rooms in your house.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Stacey Rae (Brentwood, CA) on 12/20/2008

I need help finding the product you recommended for ridding your home of fleas. I cannot find this "Diatomaceous" non earth product, nor can I find natural Borax. Could you please give me some suggestions on where to find these products? I have tried the local nurseries, they only have the "earth diatomacieous". Thank you

Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Kira (Saratoga, NY) on 12/23/2008

I bought my "food grade Diatomaceous Earth" off of Ebay. There's lots of people selling it there. The private websites wanted a minimum order placed that was too high for me.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by June (KC, KS) on 12/25/2008

Hi, I bought my DE from www.herbalremedies.com. They have great prices. I mix it in my cat's food, and sometimes sprinkle it on their fur but don't use it on the carpet.

As far as keeping fleas out of your house, vacuum of course, this kills fleas. I mix up a spray that really helps. I use a blend of any of these oils: neem, eucalyptus, tea tree, citronella, etc...and add water in a spray bottle. Add as much oil needed to get a strong smell, roughly 20-30 drops of each oil. I spray this on the carpet as often as I need and lightly on furniture. It helps repel and will also destroy eggs.

I've also read you can place liquid dish soap in a plate and put these around your house. The fleas are supposed to be drawn to the soap and drown. You then pick up the plate, dump the fleas and start over. I haven't tried this, but heard it's a good remedy.

Also, google for information on www.holisticat.com. This site charges for membership, but their old posts are free to read. They have great suggestions on natural pet treatments.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Lisa (Blakeslee, Pa,) on 10/11/2009

Diatomaceous earth works by slicing apart the vector, being it fleas,...what have you. It's not for indoor use, and if it works in this way, can you imagine how healthy it is to breathe it in. By all means, try neem oil, if you are looking for something natural and safe.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Gloria (Chicago, Il) on 08/06/2011
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I have used diatomaceous earth now for a couple of years. It is incredible and safe (as long as you don't use the pool-grade stuff), and works.

I have used it for fleas by just applying it on a wood floor and sweeping it to get it in the cracks and along the baseboard. I also applied it gently to one of my cats. I use the product at http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-All-in-One-Flea-Remedy/999013.aspx and follow their instructions. There are a lot of reviews of this product on this page.

Believe it or not, I also used this particular DE product to get rid of bedbugs by applying it along the baseboards in all 3 bedrooms. Bedbugs gone - permanently. I used a really small paintbrush to apply and spread it (it was time-consuming and difficult - furniture had to be moved, etc. but it was worth it), and I shaked it as little as possible to prevent any dust flying.

It also got rid of an ant problem I had - I hate killing anything, but I had no choice and over the course of several days the ants diminished until they were completely gone. I applied it in 2 places - where they were coming in my house, and the threshold to my kitchen that they were crossing over.

I am NOT associated in any way with onlynaturalpet.com, just have had great results.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Jody B. (Kansas City, Mo) on 10/05/2012

Hi. Thanks for all the great tips and suggestions. I have four cats between the ages of ten and fifteen years old, three of them strays (one feral) and one someone gave me that she's gotten from a shelter, all indoor/outdoor cats. They're all healthy and have shiny coats, and we have very little problem with fleas now. In the past I used Frontline and similar products to control fleas during the summer months, but after a bad experience with one of the products I stopped using chemicals. I try to feed my cats better-quality foods, grain-free as much as possible and no by-products. I occasionally mix about half a teaspoon of brewer's yeast into their wet food, sometimes put a drop or two of apple cider vinegar in one of their water bowls (so they have a choice if they don't like it - I don't want to discourage them from drinking water! ), and I use Herbal Flea Free Herbal Flea Powder on them when I see them scratching. Flea Free contains diatomeaceous earth, sage and yellow dock powders, eucalyptus, tea tree and other essential oils (unspecified). I sometimes spray Natural Defense, containing peppermint, cinnamon, lemon grass, clove and thyme oils on bedding and furniture. It says it's safe to spray on animals but they really didn't like it and would run from me when they saw the bottle, especially the feral cat, who is very skittish. With the Flea Free, I shake some into my hand out of their sight and then pet them with it. I think what has helped the most is that I sprinkle diatomaceous earth on the floor and carpets about once a month, working it into the baseboards and cracks, leave it on for a day or two, and vacuum it up. I'm careful not to create a lot of dust. (I don't have to worry about the cats because they take off when the vacuum starts up. ) This has also taken care of the bad ant problem I used to have in my kitchen. So I'm a big diatomaceous earth fan.

I took in a stray dog a couple of years ago that apparently had fleas, and my house was horribly infested for a few days. It was so bad I put the dog and cats outside and resorted to the chemical flea bombs and applications of Frontline Plus, and did a lot of washing and vacuuming. Since then, I've used no chemicals at all, just the things I mentioned in the previous paragraph. Good luck and best wishes to all.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Tamerad2004 (Asher, Oklahoma) on 06/13/2013

I found my DE at Home depot it is very important not to get the pool grade but the safe one is food grade if you had vapor problems then you got the pool grade. I found it by the insect sprays and bolms for the house. They try to direct you to the pool isle and most dont even know that its there or what its for so you may be better off looking they also sale it on homedepot.com in liquid or powder form and the brand I found was in a 4 lb yellow bag and the brand was "Safer" hope this helps. The one on line that has the liquid spray is a different brand but you cant get that in our local store. Hope this helps someone.


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Tamerad2004 (Asher, Oklahoma) on 06/13/2013

I found my DE at Home depot it is very important not to get the pool grade but the safe one is food grade if you had vapor problems then you got the pool grade. I found it by the insect sprays and bolms for the house. They try to direct you to the pool isle and most dont even know that its there or what its for so you may be better off looking they also sale it on homedepot.com in liquid or powder form and the brand I found was in a 4 lb yellow bag and the brand was "Safer" hope this helps. The one on line that has the liquid spray is a different brand but you cant get that in our local store. Hope this helps someone.


Rubbing Alcohol for Flea Infestations
Posted by Tangie (Jefferson City, MO) on 11/13/2008
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I have a Chow German Shepard mix & a Lab both are outside dogs. In the summer months we had a problem with the biting flies, which causes bad sores on my dogs. I used (ACV/Water)1 cup of apple cidar vinear to 2 cups water sprayed my dogs every other day and it helped a lot. Don't spray on open wounds.

I also have 2 small dogs and a cat inside the home that have fleas I use 70-90% full strength rubbing alcohol put it in a spray bottle and spray the carpets and all cracks and crevices of floors (carpets and tile) not good on wood. Not good around birds, I saturate one room, close the door and then go to next room.

Important:

* Put birds in a room that isn't being treated.

** Do not stay in the sprayed rooms leave until carpet/floor dries.

Once I had a flea my arm and ankle I spritz the area with the alcohol and the flea died instantly.

Dish Soap
Posted by Marc (Priness Ann, Md) on 06/05/2014

The dawn works great, but only kills the fleas not the eggs. The avon stuff kills the fleas but not the eggs .I have found that rubbing alcohol 90 percent in a spray bottal kills fleas dead and can be gotten at any drug store or walmart store and has no side effect or won't hang around long. Can be sprayed on bedding, floors, your body, and sprayed and rubbed in on your pet as long as you stay away from their head and face


Cedarwood Oil
Posted by Maxine (Havana, Arkansas, USA) on 11/13/2008
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Not allowed to mention brand names. Do a search for cedarwood oil, there is a company in Texas and that is all they sell is Texas cedarwood oil. This stuff is a God send. It even kills bedbugs, headlice, fleas, ticks on contact. I have used many natural products for fleas , this is safe for even the youngest or pregnant animals. This stuff is only toxic to pests. Completly safe for humans. It smells good too. Got tired of toxic stuff on my 4 yorkies. It is all natural. One of there products is for soldiers in iraq , kills sand fleas. Also bugs can not get immune to this, unlike chemical products, bugs develope defences to. This is the only product I use for pests. I am not afilliated with this company in any way.

Cedarwood Oil
Posted by Jamie (Largo, Fl) on 05/15/2009

How much and how was this used??


Cedarwood Oil
Posted by T=Bone (San Fran, CA USA) on 07/24/2009

The above-mentioned product, food grade aromatic Red Cedar Oil is combined with melted Quartz Rock, and comes properly and proportionally pre-mixed and needs no dilution, additions, or calculations. The company also sells spray bottles and fogger machines (or look for 2nd hand on online auction sites or local garden stores) for treatment of large indoor areas (this product apparently not good for plants or gardens). They provide suggestions as to how much is needed for covering the square-footage you wish to eradicate of fleas - I usually get a little more to have on hand for incoming fleas from the outdoors or other people's pets as well as to use as mosquito repellent for myself. It is anti-bacterial and non-toxic to humans and pets of all ages. I find the smell is great BUT pretty pungent, so your human and non-human cohabitants may not wish to be present during application or for several hours after; ventilation helps reduce the intensity allowing all to return later that same day to the now flea-free area! I am not in any way affiliated with this company but endorse their product fully.


Cedarwood Oil
Posted by Jackie (New York, NY) on 09/21/2014

Cedar is toxic for all animals - including humans. Breathing in the scent can cause/trigger asthma, Upper Respiratory problems, and more. It is especially toxic to cats. It is sold as litter and bedding - but SHOULDN'T be. It is commonly used for rodents for bedding. Those rodents live roughly HALF as long - as rodents who are not bedded on Cedar. All soft woods emit toxic chemicals in their essential oils. If you can smell the wood aroma - it is toxic. (Including Feline Pine Litter - which HAS killed some cats.) ALL essential oils are toxic to cats - to varying degrees. Cedar and Tea Tree Oils are ESPECIALLY toxic. If you research this info on the internet - it's hard to find - but it's there! (eg. search "Toxic effect of Cedar" or "softwoods" et al.

Jackie


Diatomaceous Earth
Posted by Amazon Thyrteen (Fresno, CA, USA) on 11/09/2008

First of all I want to say "NEVER" try anything on your pets you won't try on yourself. I won't give anything to my pets that I wouldn't take myself. The best rule of thumb is use human grade (whatever)you're using on your pets! I've noticed a lot of comments on Diatomaceous Earth. I would like to say that the only grade that is good for animals is the same grade that humans use, Freshwater, food-grade DE. If it doesn't state on the package that it is certified, food grade then you don't want to give it to your pets, period! I also noticed that on this site someone mentioned the use of "Neem Oil" it is a really good oil to use that is 100% natural. If anyone is interested in finding out more about Neem Oil go to, www.organixsouth.com or call 1-888-989-Neem(6336). This oil is good for human use also for dry skin and scalp treatments. The one that I use is Thera Neem ,skin soothing 100% pure cold pressed. I'm one of their customers and have no affiliation with this company and I'm not getting anything for this endorsement, this is just great stuff!


Flea Combs
Posted by Lea (Columbia, MO) on 09/29/2008
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I have been happy with a mixed approach, using soapy water flea traps, sticky lighted flea traps, baths for cat & dog, having them on a Program & diatomateous earth in the carpet. One thing no one mentioned is flea combs. I have found that my cat seems to enjoy the attention and will sit for a long time in my lap while I flea comb her (and pet her ears, which she loves), dumping the fleas into slightly soapy water (and drying off the comb on a rag). It gets a little messy, but it is worth it. I comb my dog, too, but she is not happy about the proceedure. It works, tho, for those fleas that either escaped the bath treatment, or jumped on later. I have also spent time each day catching fleas on my feet & lower legs, & putting them in soapy water. My husband prefers very sticky tape to get them off of him. We are still fighting them, but sooo much better!


Rubbing Alcohol for Flea Infestations
Posted by Holly (Bellevue, Ohio) on 09/26/2008
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We had an absolutely horrific flea infestation on the entire second story of our house (which is uncarpeted, thankfully) and were disappointed by the 20+ flea bombs that failed to kill them, so having heard this from my mom, we filled spray bottles with straight Rubbing Alcohol (just the regular, cheap stuff from any store) and went crazy. We soaked the floor and about two feet up the walls. It worked great, and I mean, GREAT!!! You could watch them die within seconds. Just be sure to open as many windows as possible to provide lots of ventilation while you work; we didn't think it would be safe to use it on our cats or let them (or anyone) in the area for a few weeks until it aired out really well. Oh, and we also laid out ALOT of duct tape (sticky side up) to catch any survivors, of which there were very, very few.



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