Natural Remedies to Treat Pneumonia

This year has seen higher than normal cases of the flu. I came down with it about 4 days ago. It started with an irritation in my bronchial tube and then it moved to my sinuses. Then for 2 nights I ran a fever (101.8) and had body aches. By the 3rd day it had settling in my chest with wheezing and coughing especially when I would try to take a deep breath. I could feel the phlegm rattling in my chest which scared me because about 30 years ago I ended up in the hospital due to pneumonia. I have been coughing so much it hurts to breathe, at times it was out of control and I couldn't stop.

Also, last night I had to sleep sitting up in the recliner because I felt like I couldn't get enough air. Anyway, I had been reading earlier today about home remedies and saw someone recommend cayenne pepper for cough and phlegm in the chest. I knew I had some in my spice cabinet and was willing to try anything.

I put about ¼ - ½ teaspoon in about ¼ cup of water, stirred it good and drank it down, chasing it with more water knowing it would be hot. I then eat my dinner right away (parsley salad with quinoa) and had hot tea with lemon. After dinner about 45 minutes later I noticed I wasn't whizzing or coughing anymore. I felt almost normal for the first time in days. I said something about it to my husband and he agreed saying he had noticed a change in me too. It has been about 4 hours now and I still feel better so much better. I really believe the cayenne opened the airways in my lungs and stopped the rattling in my chest (I still have a little but nothing like it was). I don't normally share my experiences, but I feel if it can help anyone going through such misery…like the person that shared with me earlier, I should too. If I wake up tomorrow feeling bad again I plan on trying it again.

By the way, I have been taking turmeric in a small amount of milk, 2000 mg vitamin C, B12 under the tongue, and other supplements every day, but nothing seemed to work so quickly as the cayenne did.

In reply to Julie (Greenville, Sc),

If by, "steam", you mean that you are going to put colloidal silver in a pot and and boil it to get steam, no, that will not work. If you boil colloidal silver, the silver will remain in the pot while the water vapor escapes. You will notice that the remaining colloidal silver in the pot will start to darken from the natural light to medium yellow color to a darker golden color and if you boil it long enough it may turn brown as the silver particles become more concentrated.

A cold vapor ultrasonic humidifier will deliver plenty of colloidal silver in a relatively short period of time compared to a nebulizer which delivers a much smaller amount in a given period of time. This is an important point when you consider that the interior surface area of the lungs is approximately half of a tennis court.

Art

I was wondering if a colloidal silver steam would work if I don't have a nebulizer handy? If anyone has this info, please advise, thank you!

Hello Holly,

Yes, I'm still around! Just gave someone a bottle of CS this morning. Got plenty...free of course. How about emailing me at david at davidthomaslawfirm dot com

Dave from Fountain Inn:

Wow. So here I sit reading earthclinic, thinking I have have pneumonia. I don't even remember if I had it in 2013. I don't remember posting this back then, and I believe I'm seeing your response for the first time! If you're still out there, I'd love to come by and get some colloidal silver! I am trying the vinegar and h202 this evening, and had planned to go to the ER in the morning if I still feel this in my chest.

MMS has given me my life back. If I don't take it almost daily, I have chronic cold and sinus problems to the point where I can't do much. I've used it successfully with my kids (newborn on up), but you have to give them a VERY small amount in juice (less than a drop of activated MMS at a time to start with). My husband refuses to drink it, but he's tried soaking in it, or soaking his feet. If you are afraid to drink it, you can try soaking in it. I can't be convinced it can be more harmful than standard medicine!

Look into BOSWELLIA SERATTA - cheap. It's anti-inflammatory: arthritis, gut issues, etc.

For pain relief, take 1/2 -1 tsp of cayenne in hot water. You can sweeten with honey.

Use cayenne pepper pills try to get at least 100 hu 3 times a day, that will help your heart and your lungs, good luck.

Renee, read up on cayenne for pain.

I am so angry at my doctor right now. He does blood tests all the time because I take a muscle relaxant baclofen. Why didn't he check my magnesium? He would rather have me take ropinirole that makes me sick. That's just crazy. Thank you Earth Clinic for the help with my rls. It's crazy, but the soap worked last night and I went to sleep in 10 minutes! I put the soap in my slippers for 10 minutes and it worked with the rls. I'm bedridden because of the cancer twice and they had to take my whole lung and 18 lymph nodes. I wish that i knew about this sight before, maybe my lung could've been saved. But the other lung has asthma and copd. I almost died last year! Earth Clinic saved my life!!! I had pneumonia 7 times in a row!! My caregiver and my friend that stays with me now also had to call an ambulance. I didn't want to go to the hospital with my pneumonia because I knew they would keep me and iI have 3 cats and 3 dogs that have to eat. So my friend moved in to help so I had someone else to feed my pets.

I was hospitalized for my pneumonia 5 times for a week at a time. I had to leave the last time against the doctors permission because I have conjestive heart failure and he wanted to treat my kidneys first. I tried to tell him that if he flooded my kidneys with me having chf and pneumonia I would die for sure. He wouldn't listen and he tried to force me into taking the iv. I had to get out of there fast! I went home and looked up Earth Clinic. That's when I found out that all the steroids and antibiotics were what was causing me to get pneumonia multiple times! I immediately started to lower my steroids. I was taking 160 milligrams of steroids a day just to keep me breathing! i kept taking my antibiotics.

To keep my infection at bay. I had to lower my steroids slowly but surely. I started the cure of h2o2 drops in water and the apple cider vinegar and baking soda! lo an behold, in a couple of days I had some relief from the pneumonia and my kidneys! I also bought vitamin supplements and immune support. I also started the coconut oil and dmso on my lung and doing the oil pulling with coconut oil. I also started using the sea salt for the minerals, although sparingly until my kidneys got better.

Now I'm going to need to get help with my terrible pain, cuz I went off my morphine of 90 milligrams per day! help, I'm in alot of pain but I won't take the morphine any more! .

On an upnote, I was on the highest level of oxygen and now I'm back to 2! Sometimes I can have it on 1 1/2! but I'm not going to push it! I'm taking it slowly but surely. But 2 is great news for me! I'm now able to go to my regular bathroom most of the time, and I can do some light housework! I'm gonna be able to drive soon, when I get my handicap sticker! I am so psyched to get to do some things on my own! I never thought I'd be happy to do the dishes, crazy right? but I am! I'm fighting this with everything i got. If someone else has any suggestions for me, I would appreciate any help with this! and any idea's for the pain, of course I would appreciate it.

Again Earth Clinic, you literally just saved my life! thank you, thank you, thank you for being the only thing that saved my life! I would literally be dead!

P.S. I forgot to tell you that because of the steroids i've been taking for a year, my front teeth are rotten! and I lost 2 of them! hows that for anti steroid use!.

To Yvette:

Using colloidal silver for bronchial or lungs related infection, I use a "steamer-inhaler" and breathe in deeply for five minutes three times daily. I've fought off many bronchial infections although I have never been diagnosed with pneumonia. But if I had been, I'd certainly do the same thing.

For my bronchial infections, they are usually gone in a week.

Will this also apply to walking pneumonia?

RE: "That were cleared up through cessation of vaccination, boosting immune system naturally and detoxing..."

Don't know if anyone is still reading this thread but I would be interested in your protocol for boosting the immune system and detoxing. Also your "cocktail of supplements".

Thank you so much and stay strong...

How much Colidal Silver do you use?

SEA SALT is probably good, however the part about bacteria not being in seawater is not actually true, there are times when there are a lot of bacteria in the Gulf, and there are warnings to be careful swimming or walking in it if you have any cuts.

What does MMS do for teeth and gums if I may ask? Thanks!

I have only used it topically so far, but have been SO impressed by how beautifully it has healed my teeth and gums (after about four months brushing with it once per day; 3 drops MMS + 3 drops citric acid 50%, swirl for 20 seconds, add 4 oz water, use this for swishing and brushing, 3 minutes), and also just wonderful for *infected dogbite wounds, and *a really nasty, non-healing spider bite wound. For those last 2 we used it in bath water, 20 drops each? in tub, soak 20 minutes. I am a fan!

Colloidal Silver is the best! I used it recently in a nebuliser to get ride of a nasty cold that turned into bronchitis. Ever hour for 5-10 mins for the first few days, to hit it hard, and I was way better by day 4.

Re MMS...

I've tried it and it didn't work. Made me feel a little sick. Later I found out that its a bit toxic to those like me that have thyroid issues. But yet on my friends that don't have thyroid problems it worked very well.

After returning home from Colombia I caught what seemed to be a very bad lung infection that included severe headaches, coughing, weakness, and constant fatigue. After 3 days of no improvement, I remembered a little health boost I used before. After taking this at night, I slept like a baby for the first time in days and I woke up 50% better. I will continue doing it every night before I sleep until I am fully recovered.

Here are the ingredients for my "Power Shot":

• 1 garlic clove (cut at thin as possible).
• Lemon juice from half a lemon (fresh), also throw in the pulp.
• 1 Tablespoon Apple cider vinegar.

That's all!

Don't take this on a full stomach. Also, sprinkle a crushed ice cube and mix it in so that it goes down easier.

Repeat every night before bed and drink plenty of water (not immediately, at least 20-30 min after).

Hi there!

I can't seem to find the original post on MMS... but I'm VERY interested in what you think. I've been doing a HEAVY MMS protocol for the past month. I seem to tolerate MMS very well... I'm doing 32 drops a day, and have never experienced any bad effects. I also don't seem to be getting much better.

I'm told it needs to be consumed until your "cured"... which might be years. Do you trust MMS? The reviews are so mixed... I wonder what you (and others) think.

Thanks! Steve

Well, if you believe wikipedia, go ahead. They are known by many to give such kind of info. I have to disagree and hats off to Jim Humble for helping and curing so many people all over the world, including saving so many from Malaria.

It is advisable to do research. otherwise stay away also from many uses here on EC and go to the doctor.

Inform yourself before giving such info..

Namaste, Om

Well, if you believe wikipedia, go ahead. They are known by many to give such kind of info. I have to disagree and hats off to Jim Humble for helping and curing so many people all over the world, including saving so many from Malaria.

It is advisable to do research. otherwise stay away also from many uses here on EC and go to the doctor.

Inform yourself before giving such info..

Namaste, Om

HI U GOOD PEOPLE, , , , , , , , SJS, I just remembered a story, so I may owe Brad an apology. I had a hunting buddy in Arkansas in the 70's who had lung cancer and 90% of one lung was removed. Years later he would relate that this piece of a lung put him in the hospital for weeks at a time with pneumonia. This happened about three times a year.

I related how we were doing Bill Munro's H202 inhalation and he should try it. A few months later he called me mad as a wet hen, saying that I was trying to kill him. He was coughing up bad stuff. Later that year he called to thank me because he had not gotten pneumonia . He never got pneumonia again for 3 years . He was a smoker and I think that was a factor for his initial problems.

Maybe Brad was a smoker and that caused his problem. Sometimes we get ahead of ourselves. Different strokes for different folks. Live and learn.

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HI U BRAD, , , , , , would you like to understand what your problem is ? If so then tell us what dilute means. What concentration did you start with? It's funny that this method was started some 25 years ago by a Michigan fella named Bill Munro and no one has had your problem. Maybe you used the wrong strength. I suspect you made a mistake in your strength. If you want to get to the bottom of this then respond, otherwise, I have understood 'Mericans for some 45 years and I assume you are one.

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Hydrogen Peroxide wrecked my lungs. I will never try this again. It was diluted very thin as well. I don't know who this is working for, but from my own experience I know that it did nothing but nearly kill me.

I have never done a post here, but I am so thankful I had to do one. We are visiting family. My Mother has pneumonia, a bad case of it. My cousin has what sounds like walking pneumonia, but he won't go to the doc, he's just coughing around the house and spreading it to the rest of us as a Christmas gift I guess. My cousin has the flu and my nephew has the flu and my nephews son and daughter have severe sore throats. You need to know that, because except for 3 folks mentioned, we are all in the SAME House.

Yesterday I went to bed with a severe sore throat that had been swelling for days. I just knew I was coming down with Pneumonia. I decided to gargle with the hottest water possible and put a cayenne capsule in it. I used Nature's way cayenne capsules that say 40,000 H.U on the front. I just opened the capsule and put it in the hot water.

I had immediate relief and was able to sleep. But it lasted only about an hour. So I decided to do it again. But this time, I used two capsules and I gargled twice and then I sipped some of the water and did that a couple times till I could really feel the cayenne in the back of my throat. Within 5 minutes a chunk (sorry to be gross) of infection came out of the left side of my nose when I blew it, and my sinus' have been clear ever since.

Going forward the next day, I stayed in bed and drank green tea with 1 teaspoon of honey and two teaspoons of lemon (the one from the bottle, we didn't have fresh lemons) and I opened up one capsule of cayenne pepper and put that in the green tea. I feel 85 percent better and its been only one day. I can't believe it. My throat is still a little swollen, just enough to let me know something's hanging around. But I am not coughing much and I can sleep. I hope this really helps some folks. I am very very greatful.

Last year, traveling to Central America, I contracted Pneumonia. Because this condition is so serious being an asthmatic, I went into action with a tool chest of researched information. Since my last pneumonia episode was over 10 years ago, I pretty much have been able to keep my asthma and infections at bay through research and knowledge.....and I was better prepared to deal with this episode myself. I was not scared - I just took action! Here is what worked for me....the point is - be empowered to take action early when the need arises as it relates to your health.

1. Crush 4 cloves of garlic, let sit for 10 minutes to allow the allicin to activate. This is an important step. Then, I threw the garlic into my mouth, chased it down with an available natural juice. I did this three times a day for 3 days...then tapered to two times a day for 2 days, then one time a day for a week.

2. Downed 2Tbl of organic coconut oil for 5 days, once a day.

3. Used my albuterol inhaler every 4 hours.

4. Drank Airborne product to boost immune system 2X a day. These are easy to travel with. I used the packets that are for hot beverages.

5. Ate very, very healthy foods for 2 days.

6. Epsom salt warm bath, once a day for 3 days. 20 minutes. This helps with the smell of the garlic but also, allows you to relax your airways.

7. Drank the following tonic 2X a day - 1 Tablespoon ACV, cup of water, Tablespoon of honey - all warmed, not hot!

In case I needed it, I had a Medrol dose pack I keep that I got from my MDs office prior to leaving the United States. This was a last resort - just in case. I didn't need it but, it's great to be prepared for a trip.

During this episode of pneumonia, I learned a lot. I still traveled around but was not able to do any real hiking ect. I did not have to go to the hospital because I caught it early enough. The only thing I wish I had done earlier was put a capful of H202 (hydrogen peroxide 3%) in each ear for five minutes. My ears were not infected so, I could have used this as well to beat down the infection and perhaps the infection would have been resolved earlier. H202 cannot be put into infected ear or ruptured ear drum.

Lastly, if you travel by airplane and have a propensity to getting respiratory infections, I would suggest using Bill Munroe's H202 inhalation method on the days you are travelling on an aircraft as a preventative for infection. Just keep the bottle in your carry-on or purse. I do!

I hope this information helps fellow earthclinic.com travelers! When we are away from our homes - having our arsenal of information and products with us makes the trips more enjoyable....Good luck!

MyWay

...Just doing my part! :D

I think it is definitely possible.

Kefir grains are also made from yeasts. If you are making it from grains passed down from someone else, there is really no way to know what strains of bacteria, yeasts, etc make up the grains. Even still -- if you were using a starter culture -- bacteria (good or bad), yeasts, and any other molds that may have been present in the liquid do not belong in the lungs.

Lugol's iodine helps with lung infections. Taken internally it has an affinity for mucous membranes and is antimicrobial. You could also get a nebulizer and inhale steam + peroxide. I'm sure there's lots of other info here on this site. I've never had pneumonia so I can't be very helpful on how to treat it. But I do think it could definitely be the cause for your infection.

I have had pneumonia for 3 1/2 months now. They have tried 3 courses of antibiotics to cure it, but nothing seems to help. It has been mild, they term it walking pneumonia, but it just won't cure. I am really wondering if water kefir (which I believe is awesome btw!) may have caused this accidentally, but my Dr was immediately dismissive of the idea. I make homemade water kefir so it is really rich in bacteria and about 2 weeks before I started noticing the breathing pain I accidentally inhaled some water kefir when drinking it, it was a good amount because I really choked on it. I never thought a whole lot about the pain I started having in my back when taking deep breaths because I never had any other symptoms, thought it was a pulled muscle (my doctor thought the same thing when I went in 6 weeks later). Eventually the pneumonia was found on a CT scan and it had become a somewhat larger case because it had been there so long I guess. Anyhow, I am wondering if this may be an opportunistic infection of "good bacteria" simply because it ended up in the wrong place and maybe that's why the antibiotics they keep giving me aren't working because they are aimed at the "bad bacteria". Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!

My advice the quickest way without all that complicated whooey - take antibiotic with a concentrated amount of green tea. Had pnemonia for 3 days, almost died becuse the bactera became resistant. Take 4 bags of green, tea steep in water, do not boil but get it hot enough to leech out tea; let it cool. Now you might get lit off the caffine but I survived by takeing the antibiotic and tea at the same time. What you"ll notice in less than five minutes is your infection will break. This is because the tea will kill bacteria, viral and fungal forms of pnemonia. Antibiotics will be boosted by 300%; don"t say it won't work it will! And repeat a smaller dose tommorow of the tea along with antibiotic or medication given.

My grandmother contracted Guillons Baret from a flu shot was paralyzed from the neck down and died. My infant son had severe seizures immediately following a hep B vaccine and was in intensive care for a week. He wound up having a gamut of health issues due to this vaccine poisoning. That were cleared up through cessation of vaccination, boosting immune system naturally and detoxing for years.

My family thought I was nuts until two of my cousins kid wound up with PANDAS due to vaccines. They started to have same health issues and asked me for advice they were also able to reverse the vaccine poisoning through boosting the immune system and detoxing. They also stopped vaccinating.

Vaccines hinder your immune system. In turn this affects digestion and allergic reactions. A lot of young children have motor tics (like tourettes) involuntary twitching this is sign of vaccine poisoning. Pay attention tons of children especially boys have them. As did my child. The pediatrician suggested putting him on Haldol, said that was the only way to stop them. I stopped them with a cocktail of supplements which boosted his immune system at the same time.

My child had motor tics so bad he couldn't sleep as it resulted in a cut in his mouth which couldn't heal due to the constant movement. He cried every night. You'd be amazed what you can accomplish when you can't depend on the medical community for answers.

Also peanut oil is an adjuvant in vaccines, did you notice many children have peanut allergies?? This is not the case in Europe, many of their children have sesame allergies. They do not use peanut oil as an adjuvant in their vaccines, instead they use sesame oil. Things that make you go Hmmmmm

Hi Andrea C , Re your mix of Epsom salt and water to be put in nebulizer? What proportions of Epsom salt to water please> How mant mls of CS in Nebulizer? and how many of Epsom salt mix? I think I have Pneumonia at the moment. I've had it twice befor in my life and recgnise the feeling in my lungs and in my body. Also want to be sure that neither CS or Epsom Salt mix will set my heart racing? I get Atrial Fibrillation and really don't want to get that going at the moment. I am taking An Antibiotic Amoxacillin 500mgs x 3 times a day and also some prednisolone 40mgs a day just for 5 days on day 4 now but lungs are still not great. and I'm exhausted. I have colloidal silver and have been taking it orally. and I have some epsome salts also. Really want to give it a go! Very excited. Want to avoid stronger Anti Bs and more Steriods if possible. Thank you. Biddy in Ireland

Prioris: mms and h202 make free radicals that damage both pathogens and tissues. This is the cause of the side effects.

Dear Prioria from FL, Thank you for having the courage or whatfor to speak out about this very dangerous MMS stuff. The active ingrediant in MMS is the same as chorine bleach for those people not aware of it. Chlorine bleach will kill or destroy any pathogen known. BUT, it will also kill any living thing which of course includes people.

You may or may not survive this treatment. Many people have died the first time they tried the MMS treatment taken as prescribed. Many others have gotten very sick but managed to survive. And there are those who say it has cured them of things like malaria and for some maybe it did. But this claim that MMS is safe is not true. Of course when someone dies from this treatment it`s advocates blame the person who died. They supposedly mixed it wrong or took too much. But that is how unsafe this MMS stuff is. You can surf the web about this and read testimonials of many people who got very sick using MMS as prescribed. Here is what wikipedia has to say about MMS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement

To Prioris re MMS:

Story of a Dead Squirrel....

Thanks for your insights. I'm always looking for effective anti microbes but have to approach anything with caution. One of my favorite personal photographs was made in my yard two years ago. A dead squirrel laying oddly on its back, little paws turned up; I gently removed a few fallen leaves close to it to reveal a partially eaten mushroom inches from the deceased. Well, the mushroom may not have been what killed the squirrel but it sure looked like it.

Moral of the story is obvious --- a picture is worth a thousand words---

Dave

I experimented with MMS some but got headaches. The more I have read about it throughout the last couple years, the more I wouldn't recommend it. The side effects can be serious in people. I would stay away from it or use it with caution if you want to experiment with it. Many testimonials don't mention the damage it has done to some people.

Helo, shw mae Twm? (pronunciation: Hello shoe my Tomb?) Hello, how are you Tom? In answer to your question about MMS. I have never tried it but I have read a lot about it and watched videos on youtube, and it's had some amazing results, but I am weary of it. I don't know why, but personally I wouldn't use it call it instinct if you want, but there is something that doesn't sit right about it in my mind. A lot of people swear by it, but every time I think about using it I feel negative about the outcome of its use, and I tend to listen to my inner self when it comes to trying remedies out. For instance, I have D.M.S.O, I used it on my Brother when he was crippled up with Arthritis in his hand, an it worked a miracle on him and he's now returned to work where as he had to leave his job and could barely use his hand at all. I tried it on myself, it took the pain of two broken toes away for a few seconds then my head felt like it was hit by Thor's hammer! I had to lay down where I was for half an hour, but I think this reaction may have been caused by plaster adhesive I didn't know was still on my skin after washing the area well before use. I haven't used it since, but I feel that it should be used on certain bodily areas when you have some one that can help you apply it where it's needed, as you can't always see certain areas clearly enough. I would use it again, but with help next time. MMS just doesn't appeal to me, but if my back was truly against the wall, I possibly might, but I wouldn't be happy about it. I am not saying no one should use it, but it's just not for me at this present time. I was wondering what are you thinking of using it for, or are you just curious about it? Love Andrea C xxxx

Hello Suzy: Yes, I purchased a $30 ultrasonic device on Amazon along w/ NGMO Lecithin and pure Ascorbic Acid powder from Swanson. I followed these directions: how to make lipospheric vit c, mix 1 cup (filtered) water 2 spoons c in one container and stir, 2 cups water, 6 spoons lecithin in another container and stir, let both containers sit at room temp for 1hr, stir or blend the two together, let sit for 2 hrs, pour into ultracleaner and set for 480 sec or 8 min and stir almost continuously, refrigerate. Recommended dose is 1 oz, 1 or 2 x daily.

I have almost completed my 3rd batch and the effects are nothing less than amazing. I am also on my 2nd batch of Lipo Reduced Glutathione.

Andrea from Wales: Re your advice on use of colloidal silver in a nebulizer for lung infection:

I've written similar instructions on Earth Clinic in two or three post locations but your description is superior and the idea of using Epsom Salts first is sage. CS is my very favorite virucide. Have you ever tried MMS? I just started reading about it. My mind is always open to new concepts but I'd be hard pressed to beat CS.

Great post ... Please put up more. You are most insightful.

PS....I love Wales. Ancestors from Wales.

Hi Colloidal Silver will kill Pneumonia, but it has to be NEBULISED to get it straight to the lung's. Put undiluted Colloidal Silver in the nebuliser cup, and breathe it in as deeply as possible for 5 minutes. Hold breath if able for 4 or 5 seconds, this will get it to the lower respitory tract better, then exhale, do this every 1 to 2 hours until there is an improvement in symptoms and breathing. It might cause coughing for a bit, but that's ok its the Silver loosening all the gunk in the lungs, when there is an improvement, stretch it out by an hour(1 then 2, 2 then 3) an so on. Then when the patient can go four hours between Nebulisers, do it 4 hourly, do it until their clear of all breathing problems at 4 hours, Do it for a week, but it can be done longer if needed and will do no harm. Do not Nebulise Hydrogen Peroxide as this will damage Lung tissue, and never mix it with Colloidal Silver as this causes a toxic gas. Do not worry if patient can't take deep breaths, or hold it, the Nebuliser will turn it in to a fine mist and send it to the Lungs where its needed, and a face mask is better than a mouth piece if this is a problem, you can also use a quarter, or less or more if tolerated, of Epsom Salt in distilled water in the nebuliser first as this opens up the airway's and relaxes Lung spasms so the Silver will reach further down the Lungs and the Epsom Salt may induce coughing as it opens the airway's, its the lungs it needs to go, swallowing any thing will take it to the stomach where it will be diluted by stomach acid, and wont reach the lungs. Both are excellent for any lung issues done this way. Drink water in between breaths if needed as the taste is not great and may dry the mouth out, and drink plenty of distilled water when using Colloidal silver through out the day Love Andrea C xxxxxx

To TimH- I was wondering about making one's own Liposomal /Lipospheric Vitamin C. Do you use an ultrasonic device? I value the input of EC regulars far more than a generic internet reference or posting.

Hip: I am convicted to amend your "Vit-C in high doses" to only Lipospheric Vit-C. Having used many forms of C over-the-yrs in small or large doses, and having only recently been using homemade Lipo-C, the difference is off-the-charts. This factor could easily determine the difference between a return to health or death. Lipospheric Vit-C is really the only way to administer.

How is your wife doing now? Have you tried The vit c in high dosages? Cayenne pepper apple cider with honey diluted with water. In severe cases fast just drink spring water. Also I' m pretty sure you're wife is extremely acid. You can simply test this with with ph test strips (health store). Avoid any acidic foods such as meat, dairy, fish, grains refined sugars, junk food and only drink alkalizing juices: green juices (look up recipes on the internet). Grey Celtic unrefined sea salt, msm powder, calcium (only take pearl calcium), silica are alkalizing minerals she might take in addition to get alkaline. Also are there any irritants in the air of your home? Think of air conditioners, dusty heating systems, house molds, pets, ambrosia ( a plant that causes extreme hay fever and irritant to respiratory ways). In the Netherlands, people with pneumonia (or asthma and tbc) used to go to the Swiss alps for fresh air to get better. And get sunlight! Also consider grounding. If you're in a warm climate, your wife could walk barefoot or sit/ lay down touching the earth outside for at least 2 hrs a day. Otherwise consider a grounding pad (google on internet) to sleep on. It reduces pain and inflammation quickly. Good luck and just to show that there's a lot more you can do than just vitamin c. I would do as many as I could. Love & health.

Hello Holly,

There's nothing wrong with taking the full set of items you list to deal with the infection... Garlic, H2O2, sea salt etc. While you're at it, why don't you add the one thing that would, in my opinion, really kill the pneumonia? Colloidal Silver. You need a vaporizer... Which turns the liquid into a steam and when I feel something in my respiratory, I make sure to breathe deeply for a few minutes Mine has a "cup" that I breathe into. I do this three times daily for a week. Always knocks out my infection that fast. I see from your post you live close to my office and if you email me at david (at) dlthomaslaw.com I'd be happy to have a bottle of CS for you. I give away bottles to friends and family... And have for decades. Free.

@Katie: Thanx for your victory treatment testimony and protocol, and congradulations.

I might add a few points and also ask about the "mucus thinner" supposing it's Guiffenissen, which is considered a semi-synthetic expectorant with a good safety record. Also for "lung infection" mucus problems is the amino acid NAC or Cysteine from your local health food store is said to be very effective.

I'll now take a little air out of your balloon and add that the duration of your pneumonia may be the first indication of a weakening or depressed immune system. The mineral Zinc @ 25-50 mg day will greatly strengthen the immunity.

Anyway, if you catch another bad infection again in the near future do come back here so to address also any possible underlying conditions.

Writing this 20 minutes after my doctor's appointment. She confirmed that yes, I did have a pneumonia (unsure if it was viral or bacterial) and that my body has fought it off. Today, I'm at about 93% health and energy-wise. I am beyond happy so I wanted to share my method.

In short: I was sick for nearly 3 weeks. Began when I was on a trip overseas, so it very well could have been the moist, stale air on the 9 hour plane ride. Started with a sore throat and feeling tired… developed into 2+ weeks of a low-grade fever, coughing up different colored gunk, lungs and throat rattling and wheezing, and feeling extremely exhausted. A relative who is a nurse listened to my lungs and said one had fluid in it.

Money kept me from going to the emergency room, called walk-in clinics but they told me they don't treat pneumonia, and there was a week-long wait for an appointment at my community health clinic. And so, I was on my own. I don't like to take medication EVER, but with this illness, I was scared and would have gladly taken any prescription someone handed me.

Luckily though, I didn't have the money or resources. So here is what I did:

The basics:

1) Rest – Slept as much as humanly possible and rested.

2) Fluids – Tons of fluids. Water, orange juice, tea, everything. Give your body a rest, don't bog it down with digesting things like meat.

The major players:

3) Raw garlic – Anywhere from 1-5 cloves per day. Rule of thumb: if you aren't getting results with garlic, take more. I pressed the clove to break it open and let the air hit it for 3-5 minutes. Then chewed minimally and swallowed with a teaspoon of honey. A little water to wash it down.

4) Oil of Oregano – I bought a small bottle of this at the health food store and tried all kinds of combinations (breathed in steam, put drops under my tongue, in my water, etc. ) Similar to garlic in helping fight bacteria and infection. (Also similar to garlic in that it tastes horrible and makes people think you've been cooking Italian food.)

Supplemental things:

5) Unrefined Coconut Oil – 1 Tablespoon once a day. Studies show that it cuts down recovery time for pneumonia in children.

6) Apple cider vinegar – Two Tablespoons heated mixed with a cup of water and honey. This helps with the cough. It calms down the throat and lungs.

7) Vitamin C tablets. Got these in another country but they are just like those fizzy vitamin tablets. Who knows if these really work, but I took them anyway. About 3000mg a day.

8) Even though garlic and Oil of Oregano don't kill of your body's defenses like an antibiotic would, I still added in some probiotic yogurt to help my body replace the good bacteria.

At the advice of my relative who is a nurse, I did also get a mucus thinner from the drug store as well… to get some of the fluid out of my lungs. Took two pills each morning for a few days but it caused me to violently cough, so I stopped taking it.

It took a couple of weeks, but I feel WORLDS better. Do these things taste and smell good? Nooo. Are some of your friends/family going to think the idea of fighting pneumonia with something like garlic is ridiculous? Yeees. But, it works. And I spent very VERY little money. My good sense told me garlic alone could fight this off, but like anyone, I tend to get scared when I am very sick (sometimes you just want an RX from a doctor.) Obviously, use your judgment and go to the E.R. If you must. But after this whopper of an illness, I'm telling you, I genuinely don't think I will ever take an antibiotic again.

I'm pretty sure I've got a spot of pneumonia, as I did have it a few years ago for the first time. So, I'm reading here what to do, and I've got a list going: garlic, H202, vitamin c, probiotics, sea salt, etc. Because I am a huge believer in this website (tried and true). BUT, should I go for doing ALL of these things at once? Or will that overwhelm my body? Maybe each of them in small doses? Not sure which one I need? Or if all will be great??

I don't recommend flu shots and pass them up each year. A husband & wife we knew that were first in line to get their flu shot every year both ended up with Alzheimers. They both died at early ages of 68-72 yrs. She was put in an alzheimers facility. He couldn't go out on his own & find his way home even 4 blocks away. Wake up, & Say NO to flu shots.

I would like to know the directions/solution/dosage for using hydrogen peroxide to treat cough and/or pneumonia or bronchitis. I've heard referce to both sprays and inhalers. I see all of this blogging, but not the real stuff. How do I get there? Thn Q!

Who cares if the flu shot is good for you or not! Thanks for sharing with us another possible way to stay out of the doctor's office and, like you said, stop pooping pills! I search this website and others just to see other ways of doing things. This means everybody that comes to this website isn't 100% pure and natural. Any knowledge/ information that made your life better is worth sharing!

Hi, Don't be afraid of not having a flu shot- theres a lot of scaremongering. I know a lot of elderly folk who get the shot and immediately become ill with flu then slowly get cancer and other nasties. Boost your immune system naturally instead.

To Ken from UK with his Flu shot statement. Mercury, thimersol, formaldehyde, aluminum, spermicides, binders and fillers, plus more are all included in the flu shot. If you feel that these poisons are all natural then enjoy your flu shot because I would not reccomend it to my worst enemy. As far as protecting the elderly how about a healthy diet rich in fruits and vegetables and taking herbs, botanicals and vitamins as well as a probiotic to keep the immune system working properly in the winter.

Flu shots can indeed be called natural remedies (except for the fillers, perhaps, but they put those in supplements too).

I know many elderly people with heart and lung disease whose immune systems simply cannot take the onslaught of the flu and pneumonia. Flu shots are lifesavers for many of an advancing age.

Re: "I got a flu shot and a pneumonia shot and I have not had to see the doctor or take any pills or had any symptoms for two years... I can't say It's a miracle cure but after ten years of popping pills I'm a free man..."

Congratulations on your freedom!!! Unfortunately, a flu/pneumonia shot is not exactly a "folk remedy". I'm also pretty sure it doesn't classify as "alternative medicine" either. These shots are far from natural and I'm pretty sure the majority of people who come to a website call earthclinic.com would have difficulties considering these shots... Well... Earthy.

I want to join this discussion because my 3.5 year old is currently suffering from Pneumonia. He had a miserable spell during the sleepless feverish night, so after reading up on this site, I tested the HP we have at home with water using the recommended methods on this site, and it looked clear. So I sprayed about 3-4 times in the back of his throat (he didn't mind it at all! ). I helped him blow his nose minute later and a lot of snoots came out. Then I witnessed his cough completely stip, his face relaxed, and he fell back asleep.

A few hour later, he woke up again feeling pretty lousy and very warm bodied. He was having a coughing fit for ten minutes and was exhausting him.. I gave him a few more squirts of hydrogen peroxide. The cough almost immediately stopped again and minutes later he got a spark of energy and said he wanted to get up. We blew out snoots as before, then he walked around a little bit, and snuggled on the couch and fell asleep peacefully.

I started a topic on HP in the humidifier just now. What do you all think?

Thanks.

Don't do this! Your lungs are sensitive--I feel that this caused me more problems than ever. Don't cause yourself a new set of problems!!

I swear by using Vit C.

Having had asthmatic bronchitus for many years, I was prescribed inhaler #4 when I decided "enough is too much! ". I threw out the inhalers and started using Vit C as per the directions of Linus Pauling and Adelle Davis.

The rule of thumb is to start slowly and get the body used to it by taking 1000mg per day, increasing this every few days or every week until you hit your "body tolerance level". Pure and simple this means: until your bowels start to protest :-) Then cut back by 500 or 1000 mg until you're comfortable. And yes, in case of an illness like pneumonia (which I have had several bouts with) the tolerance level will greatly increase, as the body's own reserves of ascorbic acid are rapidly depleted.

In some cases when having penumonia, I have taken up to 15-20 grams of Vit C in one day and not had irritated bowels. It is a wonderful aid in recovering from illnesses.

However, be aware that there always needs to be an extra protein supplementation as well, as the body loses protein at a shocking rate during any (severe) illness! This will also protect any potential damage done to either body tissues or even the DNA.

A good way to make sure you get sufficient protein during any illness (and it goes down easier than, say, 6 eggs :-) is to make "Tiger's Milk" or "Pep-Up Drink", a recipe from Adelle Davis.

Finally, taking Vit C every day is a great method to protect yourself against any illness, and if an illness does grab hold of you, to make sure it goes away in a hurry. The same goes for ACV honey, which also goes a long way towards strengthening your immune system. Finally, staying away from artificial products and/or chemically polluted products is also a good way to protect your system.

Yes, Thanks so much for your comments, Melissa and Lisa, you know? about a month after all that happened I noticed my son was getting something, like a cold or the flu, because he had a little fever, he was a little less energetic, etc. So again I rubbed him with peroxide and it helped again. The peroxide helps to stop whatever virus or other thing from spreading or continuing to harm your body. I also agree about the importance of the soothing touch, and even when I wasn't in favor of the antibiotics, (specially since it seems this was a virus) I was too scared to risk not obeying the doctor. I never thought something so simple as Hydrogen Peroxide could help so much. Thank you guys for your explanations and information and thanks to Earth Clinic, I am learning a lot.

Hi Sarah from Newark, New Jersey: Hydrogen Peroxide creates an oxygen rich environment where viruses can't live and good bacteria thrive. See Earth Clinic's "Remedies"; Hydrogen Peroxide Cures & Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method. I think you did exactly the right thing rubbing it on your infant - skin absorbs what you put on it. Brilliant, great job! Now that your son has had antibiotics, research also Earth Clinic's "Remedies"; Acidophilus Cures and "Ailments"; Antibiotics Side Effects.

Sarah, I'm not a chemist or a doctor, but I've also heard that hydrogen peroxide is very effective against viruses (virii?). However, I would not discount the healing energy of your touch with the swabs. The cooling effect, probably in a nice, calm home enivronment (not a clinical doctor's office or hospital) in which to receive his 'medication. ' I'm certain there was a physical effect, but I feel quite strongly that the touch was just as important. You soothed your baby. Your baby was able to sleep, and sleep is critical to healing. I say "all the above. " :)

Hello, I have a question, My 15 month old son was sick with a lot of cough, some fever and after taking him to the doctor, he said he had a virus. We had a hard time giving him his medicine because he wouldn't swallow it and the next day the cough got a little worse and you could tell he was weaker. So we took him to the Emergency Room. After putting him the mask, you know, the nebulizer he got better. After doing an Xray the doctor said my son had pneumonia so we were told to really give him all his medicine, antibiotics and stuff (which we did).

Then at home 4 hours later he was coughing a lot again, almost as bad as before. So I read somewhere here that you can help your body fight a virus by spraying hydrogen peroxide. I was scared first because my son is so young (15 months), but I was desperate. So I took the regular 3% hydrogen peroxide that they sell in the stores and put a small amount (enough to make it wet) in a piece of cloth and wiped his feet, legs, hands, belly, chest, back and a little of his arms and you know I watched him carefully. Shortly after I would say like 15 or 20 minutes afterwards his cough diminished a lot. It wasn't completely gone but I could tell he felt a little better.

After 3 or 4 hours, the cough started again and I did the same thing and again it helped him diminish the cough and was able to sleep for some hours. Then 3 hours later I repeated again and it helped. The next day and following days I didn't think it was neccesary to use the peroxide because his cough had diminished considerably.

Now my question is: what did the Peroxide do exactly? or was it just coincidence, because they gave him antibiotics and other medicines at the ER and also the next 5 days we were able to give him his antibiotics and medicines. I am pretty sure the Hydrogen peroxide helped but I can't say exactly how. I don't know if I would recommend this because, everybody is different and children are more sensitive and fragile, but I am sure that the peroxide helped him with his cough. Do you think maybe the peroxide made him sleepy? I doubt it but I am looking forward to your reply. Thank you in advance and I think this site is great. It helps a lot.

In reply to the person asking: "Q. How long did he take the vit. C? Apart from mixing it in water, was there any other thing that he took that could be of help to me?"

He took the vit c every day. He still takes it without fail. He was prob taking around 150 to 200 grams a day for months (about 5) until one day he could only take around 10grams, and he has stayed on that ever since. Straight away he had emediate benefits. He stopped coughing up blood, no longer needed anti biotics and made a slow recovery. Now he is SO much better. I thought I was going to lose him but the vit c saved him. He also took cayenne. I would give him hot water with about quarter teaspoon cayenne. Try and give him regular drinks of it, I'm sure this helped too. If you have the money you can also try adding Lypo-Spheric vit c. It has a higher strength absorborancy.

This is the technique we used:

BOWEL TOLERANCE METHOD by Robert Cathcart

In 1970, I discovered that the sicker a patient was, the more ascorbic acid he would tolerate by mouth before diarrhea was produced. At least 80% of adult patients will tolerate 10 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid fine crystals in 1/2 cup water divided into 4 doses per 24 hours without having diarrhea. The astonishing finding was that all patients, tolerant of ascorbic acid, can take greater amounts of the substance orally without having diarrhea when ill or under stress. This increased tolerance is somewhat proportional to the toxicity of the disease being treated.

As he started to get better and we learnt more about alternative medicine we added other vits. Mainly for his heart as pneumonia was linked to years of heart problems. We added D-ribose, L- arginine. HE loves this stuff, if he misses a dose he feels so tired. Also Q - 10.

Hope this helps.

Francisca, I don't breathe it up my nose! Just plain breathing the air in my mouth that has the diluted HP in it! I open my mouth, taking care the diluted HP doesn't drip out, and just take a couple of good breaths. Then spit it out and rinse my mouth. I do it a few times a day as needed.

To Mmsg, I tried to breath the water with HP but it didn't work, I couldn't get anything up my nose. After that I breathed a bit I put into the palm of my hand and it did indeed calm my sinuses just it burned a bit, maybe I had used too much HP. No idea how you do it through your mouth though....

Breathing thru a mouthful of VERY DILUTED hydrogen peroxide, helped me for lung issues (and nose, throat). DO NOT SWALLOW.

This question is for LIZZIE from London or anybody that has the answer.

Lizzie wrote that her partner took 200gram of powdered vit. C daily and his pneumonia gone.

Q.How long did he take the vit. C? Apart from mixing it in water, was there any other thing that he took that could be of help to me?

My wife has been diagnosed with chronic pneumonia. At first, the doctor gave her wrong diagnosis and treated her for more than one year for tuberculosis. Now, x-ray result shows that her right lung has washed out and it has some holes in it. My wife is finding it hard to breathe. She also coughs seriously and has severe pain in her chest region and she has lost a lot of weight. She is alive today only by the grace of GOD. Can someone tell me anything that can help my wife? Please, don't tell me about pharmaceutical treatment.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and GOD bless.

My partner had triple pneumonia last year. This also affected his heart and he was getting weaker and weaker. The doctors could not get rid of it, it just kept coming back. Out of desperation I looked up pneumonia cure on the net and read how one man cured himself by using heavy dosed of vitamin c. We were desperate and decided to try it. The idea is that you take powdered vitamin c mixed in water. Can be anything from 5 grams to 20 grams and keep taking throughout the day until you get close to diareah. You then know the amount to take for the next day. My partner was on 200grams a day! On the first day he took it he was coughing up blood and shivering... Later he felt much better. The next day alot less blood and then after that it completly went away! Was amazing to witness as in the past we would of had to go to hospital and he would have been given an oxygen mask to breath, an antibiotic drip and god knows what else. And would stay in hospital for a week. After this vitamin c episode he did not get pneumonia again!

I was sick with pneomonia for 3 months last winter (age 38) , and was prescribed anti-biotics to get rid of it three times. Nothing worked, until I learned about taking Apple Cider Vinegar and honey. I took half a teaspoon of the Apple Cidar Vinegar and on the same spoon had half a teaspoon of honey, and took this three times per day for four days. I was cured on the fourth day! I recommend to everybody I know. Most people are still skeptical... and guess what? I had a few other bouts of pneomonia before that, and since taking this natural remedy, it's never came back!

I am having the same problem. Persistent cough & wheezing. Would like to know how to do this and how much and how often. Been on antibiotics for 1 week along with Primatene (inhaler), Robatussin, and cough drops. No signs of getting better, actually getting worse. Please someone help, this is miserable.

Sea Salt for Pneumonia

I have (usually) mild asthma. I visited a dusty wildflower area and contracted fungal pneumonia. The doctor did not apply effective antibiotics, because the infection was fungal, and he initially misdiagnosed it. The infection continued for weeks, and hardened into chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Over the next year I tried many remedies. Then I found an interesting fact. The ocean has millions of antibacterial virions per liter. This is why there are so few bacteria there: predation. I live in an oceanside city, and have no problem getting clean, fresh seawater. I spat some infected sputum into a bottle of seawater and diluted it to invisibility. The idea was that any virus would rapidly multiply by killing and eating the bacteria of my infection. Then over a week, I sprayed the water and inhaled it. My coughing got worse, but then air began to penetrate past the blockages and I began to cough them up; some looked like french fries. I'm now healthy.

I think a similar effort might work with artificial seawater made from organic sea salt. The idea is that it must be organic so that the antibacterial virions would need to be preserved in the salt.