Lung Infection Remedies

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Posted by Sania (Jalandhar, Punjab, India) on 03/11/2009

sania, india i have bronchiectasis from last 2 years..i have thich mucus problem....infection occurs very soon...i have tried so many anti biotics...as soon as i stops infection again comes..what should i do...can anyone suggest me which wil really work..i tried homeopathy nothing works...i am just 28 yrs old...life seems like have stopped after this one lung collapse because of bronchiectasis..my other lung is healthy.....is anyone suffering from same problem ....ant suggestions....is colloidal silver will really help..how to use that ?

EC: "Bronchiectasis is a disease that causes localized, irreversible dilation of part of the bronchial tree. It is classified as an obstructive lung disease, along with bronchitis and cystic fibrosis. Involved bronchi are dilated, inflamed, and easily collapsible, resulting in airflow obstruction and impaired clearance of secretions. Bronchiectasis is associated with a wide range of disorders, but it usually results from necrotizing bacterial infections, such as infections caused by the Staphylococcus or Klebsiella species or Bordetella pertussis."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronchiectasis

Replied by Betty
Spearsville, La.
10/29/2009

Dear Sania,

I have bronchiectasis too. I also have a heaviness in the bottom of my lungs which I believe is a direct result of exposure to chlorine. I have tried and am still trying colloidal silver in a nebulizer as well as h2o2 and am also using oil of oregano internally and externally. I can not verify that any of the above mentioned have made any significant difference but will continue to search for answers.

Replied by Mena
London, Uk
02/16/2012

Hi, I was diagnosed with bronchiectasis 20 years ago. My last scan showed that I no longer have it. It has gone. It does happen.

Replied by Noeleen
Wollongong, Nsw Australia
03/10/2012

Dear Mena from London, I have bronchiectasis and I would be most grateful if you could share what you did to have the bronchiectasis gong from your lungs..Noeleen from Wollongong Australia

Replied by Susan
Colombo, Sri Lanka
06/18/2012

Dear Mena from London, please tell me how you cured your bronchiectasis. Doctors say there is no remedy for it. Thanking you for your response.

Replied by Larry
Daly City, Ca. Usa
12/03/2016

Hello,

I have had bronchiectasis for 2 years. Got it from a Nocardia Bacteria. The main problem I have is extreme coughing and tremendous amount of heavy mucus. I have tried many things but as yet not found anything that helps. I would really appreciate any comments you can share witlh me as to what you did to get good results.

Larry

Replied by Timh
Ky
12/05/2016

Larry. First make some efforts on improving indoor air quality. The amino acid NAC is good for reducing mucus. Nebulizing Colloidal Silver will kill the bacterial infection in the lungs.


Posted by Claire (New York, New York) on 02/08/2009

Better/preventative lung health: Hi, I was wondering what I should be doing to help repair all the damage I have done to my lungs from 10 years of smoking. Thanks so much for your help!

Replied by Angela
Gautier, Ms
06/18/2012

There is a video out on youtube that says sodium bicarbonate cures cancer. It has before and after pics. This product is baking soda, not baking powder. Cancer is a fungus, most of the crap we catch is fungus because our bodies are warm dark wet areas. There are some oils that kill fungus, but should not be in lungs with any great quantity. Like oregano oil. Works best for nasal fungus.

Now vinegar, this a great product, when taken 3 times a week or more over a period of time, even though you start smelling like vinegar, it purifies your blood, stops muscle cramps, soften and dissolves plaque/calcium deposit build up one lady wrapped her arm in it where she had a large calcium knot under skin she kept it on there a week or so, and it got smaller and smaller till it was gone, and it helps you lose weight.

Bleach is also a great cleaner for the body, added to a 8oz water about a cap full. Cleans the body of fungus also. A old wife tale is feeling bad do a enema with bleach water. With all this being said, I have been smoking 30 years, when I was about 22 they did a xray of my lungs, I had 5 nodules on them, and walking pneumonia. Doctor gave me meds. They said I had copd also.

Well later 6/8 months I had snorted some baking soda water. Feeling a little better. Then I had a intestinal problem so I drank a cap full of bleach in water. Feeling better. Then 10 yrs. later had a xray on my lungs cause I had a cryonic cough again, (smoker) phlegm, I asked the doc. I said how big are the nodules now. He said what nodules. Lol what nodules. So I just had a cold with phlegm now. Got rid of that colds off and on for years like regular people.

Now 30 years later. My lungs look great but I am starting to use my inhaler again, which each time I have gotten a cold I do. I also have asthma. So its time for me to do a round of the baking soda again. This is my true story, I am 42 yr. old female, been smoking for 30 yrs. I hope this helps some of you.

Replied by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
06/19/2012

Angela, for several yrs I have been using the health club hot-tub method for cleansing as it is lots of chlorine or bromine w/ some type of stabilizers w/ mixed results. Sometimes it seems to produce added oxidative stress and sometimes I feel much better afterwards. Some alternative practitioners recommend adding 1/2 or 1 cup chlorine bleach (non-scented) to a tub of hot water for cleansing and detoxing. ACV can also be added to hot water baths for same purpose. It is good to remember that chlorine bleach will way up the body's sodium content, so perhaps eat a couple of Bananas daily.

Lately it seems the healthier alternative to chlorine is Iodine. A few yrs ago I knew that my fungal infection had become systemic when I added Povidone Iodine to a foot bath w/ die-off results immediately afterwards. I have also used PI in whole body bath w/ good results. Lately I seem to have even better results w/ Borax 1/2 cup in hot bath.

For oral administration, I use either Grapefruitseed Extract or Oregano w/ pretty good results.

Anyway many options for fungal issues.


Hormone Pills and Lung Cancer  

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Posted by Earth Clinic on 05/30/2009
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Warning

If you haven't already seen it, there's an article in today's Associated Press entitled, "Hormone pills may make lung cancer more deadly" By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writer

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090530/ap_on_he_me/us_med_hormones_lung_cancer

Replied by S
New York, NY
05/31/2009

This article is referring to a study where the participants practiced standard hormone replacement therapy, NOT the bioidentical hormone replacement therapy. It would be interesting to see the same study where bioidenticals were used and tested.


Hydrogen Peroxide  

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Posted by Mike (Hoboken, Nj) on 12/08/2016
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Tried the dropper of brown bottle (3%) hydrogen peroxide mixed with a dose of saline solution (the standard prescribed nebulizer dose) through a nebulizer - the effects were great - one dose and my lungs are completely clear (after 2 months of Abuteral, meds, had no effect)

One thing - right after I finished with the nebulizer I coughed up so much phlegm and stuff from my lungs and then all was clear and I could breath normal again - first time in months - just be careful if your lungs are too congested that you loosen everything up slowly.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
12/09/2016

MIKE,,,,,,,,, I can't take H202 via a nebulizer any stronger than 1 1/2 % and if you are a smoker then you are right, you have to go very, very slow. Two friends accused me of trying to kill them.

I use pharmacy grade H202, but the EC idol, Bill Munro, used the brown bottle and lived to the age of 89. So much for the smartest folks in the room.

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Posted by Josie (San Antonio,Tx) on 05/13/2015
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Hi, I would like to know if I need to dilute my food grade 3% HP. I got it at a health food store. I tried it in my nebulizer for my lungs, but it makes my throat sore and I cough a lot. It does make me spit up phlem. I need to know if I'm doing it right. I also tried it by mixing it with a little bit of distilled water, but like to know if I should just do it without mixing it with the distilled water since it only 3%.

The problems that I have with my lungs is caused by psuedamonis bacteria. I'm hoping and praying for my miracle.

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee
05/13/2015

Dear Josie,

When I use hydrogen peroxide in a nebulizer, I use 5 drops of 3% hydrogen peroxide and 35 drops of distilled water. Even that makes my husband cough a bit when he is nebulizing. But one of my older sons requests this treatment as he finds it helpful.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn.
05/13/2015

HI U JOSIE, , , , , , , , , , , , , , when I first read about how Bill Munro first used H2O2 by inhaling it through his mouth, I used the 3 % as he suggested and it worked. A few years ago I decided to use a nebulizer instead and still used the 3 %. Wrong thing for me to do, it burned as you say. I now use H2O2 at 1 1/2% in my nebulizer and it works for me.

In Dr Shellanberger's latest health letter, he touts that an Ozone Sauna will greatly increase the TBARS in your blood and that is a measurement of the amount of peroxides. He and Dr Robert Rowan are my idols, but it seems to me that if our hero, Bill Munro, can cure 2 cancers in the crude fashion that he did, then using a nebulizer is the cat's meow. As I get it, what you are trying to do is increase the peroxides in your blood. We all know that our white carpusals make H2O2 to attack foreign critters. You just helping them along.

That is the reason they are trying to ban H2O2 in Gt Britain .........too many folks self medicating.

With the IMF meeting in Oct to declare the Chinese Yuan is now a reserve currency, then I suggest you have a case of H2O2 in a cool place when the ship hits the sand. Life is fixing to get very interesting and trying to see a doctor will be a joke. We going back to my PawPaw's days and he was born in the 1890's.

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Replied by Josie
San Antonio, Tx
05/25/2015

Josie

Well, I'm back for more questions. I was doing my food grade 3% hydrogen peroxide without diluting it and it burn my throat. I started to dilute it with distilled water, but it still burns. I stop doing it for a while so my throat would get better. I want to start doing it again, but my throat still hurts. It could be because I cough a lot from my lung problems. I do 3drops of hp and 35 drops of distilled water. Can I do the brown bottle from the store instead of the food grade? The brown bottle is 3% to. I do it in my nebulizer. Food grade, or brown bottle? Also, I drink aloe vera juice. I make it at home. I like to know if it is okay to do both, but at different time. Nebulizer in the morning and an hour later my aloe vera. I'm tried of going in and out of the hospital. Too much antibiotics. Aloe Vera did help my lungs 2 years ago. A lot of prayer helps me too.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
05/26/2015

Josie, no, do not drink the brown bottle h2o2.

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee
05/26/2015

Dear Josie,

I use the brown bottle peroxide with distilled water in the nebulizer.

I think taking aloe internally an hour after nebulizing peroxide and distilled water would be fine.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Rita
Grand Prairie,Texas
06/28/2015

How many times a day should someone nebulize with H2O2?

Replied by Josie
San Antonio Tx
08/13/2015

This is for Mama to Many,

The last time I posted my problems and you answered me back. Just to remind you what I had, I'll tell you again. Pseudomonas bacteria doctor don't know much about it. I take raw probiotics 3 time a day. hydrogen peroxide 3% brown bottle morning and night. vitamins calcium 500mg with vitamin D 400, C 500mg, E 400 l.U. and magnesium250 mg. You told me to take raw garlic 3 times a day and I do. Also to take lots of vitamin C and I do. I don't know if to much garlic will hurt me, but I smell like garlic now. I have been doing the garlic for a little over a week. I need to know how long do I keep doing the garlic? The vitamin C 500mg, I take 3 tablets a day. I hope I'm not doing to much because I weight 94 pounds and only 5 feet tall. I'm doing everything that I can to heal my lungs, but the doctors says my lungs have scars. I believe in miracle and I know God is in control and can heal me. I still cough and still have shortness of breath, but I'm breathing a little better, but still get tired. Thank you, Josie

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee
08/14/2015

Dear Josie,

What you are doing sounds good! You say you are breathing a little bit better - yay! You are moving in the right direction. Perhaps it will take some time for the remedies to heal you completely.

Yes, the garlic smell is the downfall of the remedy. But if you can stick with it, since you are improving, I would continue. for at least another week or two, maybe longer. I have a petite daughter who took 3 cloves a day for an infection, so I think it is okay to take that much if it seems to agree with you.

I have been reading Earth Clinic's cayenne pepper pages. They are fascinating. I am wondering if a bit of cayenne would help. It helps some people with energy. I think it helps to get oxygen and nutrients to cells. You could just try sprinkling a little on your food and see how you do.

Regarding the Vitamin C, you are definitely not overdoing it. Your body will tell you if you are (your body will get rid of it quickly, as in diarrhea.) Likely you could increase it quite a bit even. When I am sick, I take 15,000mg (15 grams) a day with no problem. The easiest/cheapest way at that point is to use Ascorbic Acid and baking soda to make your own sodium ascorbate. (1/4 teaspoon ascorbic acid plus 1/8th teaspoon baking soda. That is about a 1,000mg dose.)

Oh, and you might look into castor oil packs on this site. Castor Oil is reputed to dissolve scar tissue. It has worked so well for anything we have used it for. You could try castor oil packs on your back over the lung area. Just a thought.

Keep me posted!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Alice
Southern California
10/24/2015

This message is for Josie: You mention that your lungs have scars. Has your doctor told you that you have pulmonary fibrosis? If so, serrapeptase is an excellent treatment for removing scars anywhere in the body, including the lungs.

Replied by Cindy J
Newnan, Ga
12/28/2015

Is this Hydrogen peroxide 3% what you get from the store? Not food grade?

Replied by Robert
New Brunswick, Canada
05/05/2016

Do not drink the brown bottle hp, only drink food grade hp.


Posted by Glen (Bremerton, WA) on 10/07/2013

I use food grade hydrogen peroxide for my arthritis and would like to know how to use it for my COPD, inhaling it if possible.


Posted by Phil (Athens - Pagrati, Attica, Greece) on 06/13/2011

Hello everyone in this amazing site. I am very happy to discover you. :-)

I am Phil from Athens Greece 45yo. I suffer from tinnitus and insomnia by 12 December 2010. I do get antidepressants and tachycardia and tinnitus pills. I have already started to drink ACV and get extra zeolite (btw... Why this wonderful natural thing is absent from here???) and sometimes ginkgo biloba oral drops. I am a heavy smoker (27 years aprox. 50 per day) that I manage to cut down to 15-20 per day due to my tinnitus. Try though to quit this bastard completely. These days I've started oil pulling.

My question is, whether I could be able to inhale H2O2 as a general improvement of my health and if I can... "wash away" evil stuff from my lungs.
Many greetings to you all, and please.... Nobody put it down! . It is our health vs pharmaceutical profits after all. WE WILL WIN!!

Kisses from Athens, Phil

Replied by Debbie
Melbourne, Australia
06/13/2011

Phil, I read somewhere recently that if you dissolve some vitamin C powder in water and spray it into your mouth you will lose the craving for cigarettes. I don't smoke so I don't need to try it. It won't hurt you how often you do it but may stop you smoking.

Maybe you could try it and report back here?

Replied by Phil
Athens - Pagrati, Attica, Greece
06/14/2011

Thank you very mauch Debbie for your responce!

I will try and I will let you know about results. I tried some times to quit but I probably I didn't really want to. I tried accupunctur (worked but... ) and the last time I took some pills and quit for almost a year. Then I just convieced myself -again- to start smoking. I read about some bad results from smoking and inhaling H2O2. I 'll have to find these feedbacks. I don't want to start before I am 100% sure about it.

Thanks again and all the best


Posted by Shar (Coquitlam, B.c.) on 12/09/2010

Hi all , shar here from british columbia, has anyone nebulized the 3% drugstore peroxide for emphysema?, I have 49% oxygen in my lungs and have been using ionic silver solution for nebulizing, right now I have a lung infection and feel my lungs heating up anyone have a similar problem like this I want to try the nebulizing of peroxide can anyone help?

Replied by Andrea C
Cardiff, Wales
12/09/2010

Hi Shar from Coquitlam B. C, Your best bet is to nebulise food grade h202. Also you need distilled water, please dont use tap or bottled mineral water, it has to be distilled water, which if you haven't got a distillation. When you do nebulize it you may hear a lot of bubbling from your chest/lungs which don't be alarmed about, its called the alka-seltzer affect which is actually the h202 loosening all the infection and mucus from your lungs. I would also keep a bucket or bowl near at hand so you can spit all the stale mucus which will come away from your lungs into, and belive me, I know because i've got asthma and boy it shifted a whole heap of infection, which a barrel load of antibiotics didn't touch!! If you need any questions answered don't be afraid to ask them or e-mail them ok? lots of love and healing prayers to everyone Love Andrea C X X X X XX

Replied by Shar
Coquitlam, B.c.
12/09/2010

Just would like to know if 29% peroxide which I can only get here is ok to use and how much peroxide to distilled water do I use and thank you for the information, I did try some 3% this morning seemed to work OK again tonight after work also now I'm real tired.

Replied by Coregon
Medford, Or
01/21/2011

Shar,

I'm not sure the percentages of H202 to add to your neubulizer, but have heard of many people doing that with good results. See Earthclinic Bill Munro at the EarthClinic page about spraying 3% peroxide in lungs (webpage below) On that same Earthclinic page there is also a post from "Tom from Woburn" on how he used 1-1/2% peroxide in his nebulizer. He said he uses about a quarter of a teaspoon each time in nebulizer (dilute with distilled water only). If you are unsure about how to dilute your 29% peroxide to 1-1/2%, maybe call a pharmacist and ask how? Or look at the Earthclinic post below about diluting.

Here's another method of inhaling H202, that has been effective for me. I have been pouring 1/2 a bottle of H202 (3%) in my humidifier. It can be used in your house, or put it in your room at night. I'm noticing good breathing when I do this and it's great when you are sick with colds or respiratory infections. Since you can only get 29% peroxide I would think that you would put 1/10th the amount of peroxide I've been using in humidifier. I use about 6 oz, so about 1/2 oz of your 29% H202 should be about right for your humidifier? Not good on the math, but maybe you can figure this out. I've read that the 35% Food Grade Peroxide is really 29%, if that helps understand the chart below.

I found this dilution scale on Earthclinic also:

(use the 35% dilution scale for your 29%.. Same amounts)

Dilution scale: Note 2 oz = 1/4 cup
Mix 2 oz of 35% hydrogen peroxide with 22 oz of distilled water = 24 oz 3. 5% diluted hydrogen peroxide solution
Mix 2 oz of 17% hydrogen peroxide with 12 oz of distilled water = 14 oz 3. 5% diluted hydrogen peroxide solution
Mix 2 oz of 12% hydrogen peroxide with 8 oz of distilled water = 10 oz 3. 5% diluted hydrogen peroxide solution

Posts on h202 for lungs on Earthclinic page:

www.earthclinic.com/Remedies
Hope this helps!

Replied by Alaska
Anchorage, Alaska
01/07/2012

I wanted to ask how the neublizer is going with silver, oregano and HP? That's firstly. Is it healing smokers lungs?

Secondly, can I just get a regular bottle of HP and use a dropper to add, say, one drop to my nebulizer solution?

Thirdly, how about adding MSM to this concoction?

Thanks!

Replied by Carol
Leominster, Ma, Usa
01/20/2014

I don't use hydrogen as an inhaler but when I use the food grade in a bathtub (about 1 cup) mixed with red wine vinegar (I just dump a bunch in) and Epsom sales, I cough up phlegm and even old black tobacco tar for days!! My Naturopathic Dr wants me to inhale glutathione for my COLD. I didn't know Hydrogen helped with arthritis. After taking a bath (I've only done three so far) I'm in more pain for a few days. Now that you mention it, though, it may be better after that. I will pay more attention. I also have had a chemical exposure to my lungs & am full of heavy metals. I have the genetic abnormality that makes detox harder. I'm having good results with IV infused glutathione. May I ask is you have a good source of hydrogen @ a reasonable price. This is getting pricey.

Replied by Donald S.
Ohio
06/20/2017
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What do you use if your Doctor says you have lung modules in your lungs that the x-ray show?


Posted by Jim (Stettler, Alberta, Canada) on 08/14/2008
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I have been taking Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) and Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) for about a week now and am amazed. 2Tbls in water 3 times a day and H2O2 spritzed into my throat twice a day - when I remember. Got used to the ACV quickly, the H2O2 still tastes like crap but they are working wonders so I keep on. Had sinus infection for decades and, as a smoker, congested lungs. Both cleared up within a week! Also, pain in right shoulder and left elbow is gone.

Came here to find a solution for a friend's sore throat. Number one cure was Cayenne which she can't take. Two days later I woke with a sore throat so on the way for coffee I stopped at a store and got some Cayenne. Put a 1/4 tsp in my coffee and before I finished the cup, the sore throat was gone. Amazing. Thank you EC for all the help. Next, 5-HTP for chronic depression.

EC: Read more about Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Cure here.


Posted by Jimmy Vou (DALLAS, Texas) on 03/05/2008
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Pulmonary Fibrosis. For the past 11 days I have been taken 35% up to 75 drops daily. My lungs are in the process of being cured. my ears are begining to open once again. My chest is beginning to feel almost in order once again. Amen! I have additional energy, breathing is coming back in short spans, yet it is coming back... The Doctors reports as of 2 weeks back is Cancer in the Lung... Yet, I mentioned the product to him, and he made another apointment for the 31st of this month. I will let you know.

Replied by Betty
Spearsville, La.
07/19/2009

Dear Jimmy from Dallas,

I just read your posting about the cystic fibrosis in March of 2008 and your efforts to treat it with hydrogen peroxide. I have lung problems too and was wondering if the peroxide worked for you. I am inhaling the 1% food grade hp without much success. Hope to hear back from you. Betty


Posted by Nancy (Ohio) on 02/03/2006
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I have a friend who had been diagnosed with Mesothelioma and he spent his life savings of over 450K on modern medical treatments that got him nowhere. He then searched the internet with a relative that is an R.N. and found out about Hydrogen Peroxide therapy. He used the food-grade hydrogen peroxide, a few drops in his drinks and also Coral Calcium and a few months or so later...walah...NO CANCER!!! I believe the HP cleansed his body/lungs and the Coral Calcium strengthened him. Thank God that he found this! He is a really neat guy!

EC: One of our most popular treatments, Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation, is great for lung conditions!


Inhalation of Volcanic Ash Remedies  

Posted by Tricia (Ireland, Ireland, Ireland) on 04/20/2010 86 posts

Northern Europe has been adversely affected as a result of a volcano eruption in Iceland (note - Iceland not Ireland) and until today the most affected have been those travelling by airline as the volcanic ash has been high and airplanes cannot travel through it. To-day reports are saying that the ash over us is now between ground and 20,000 ft. This is obviously going to play havoc with those who have compromised airways and maybe adversely affect those who are healthy. The obvious advice is a mask but what other precautions should we be taking and if we do end up having to inhale this stuff, how do you chelate it from the lungs.

Usually, in this country a week rarely passes without rainfall. This week has given us glorious sunshine and little wind which does mean that the ash will not move or dissipate quickly.

One nice thing has been that the skies are lovely and blue without the stain of contrails and chemtrails.


Iodine  

Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines) on 06/12/2010 1249 posts

The Thyroid, Iodine and Asthma

Here is an article which might help people suffering with lung problems in general. This interesting article is by Dr David Berry who specializes in the use of dessicated thyroid and lugol's iodine with respect to asthma and lung problems and whose research, experience and advice in this area is extensive and is, perhaps, a good illustration as to why adequate amounts of iodine are so necessary and important in our diets.

Here is what he has to say:

"In the mid 1980s I had a chronic asthma patient who developed an inflammation of his thyroid. After consultation with an endocrinologist he was put on Eltroxine (T4). One day when the patient came in later he mentioned that the thyroid treatment improved his asthma considerably. At the same time, my office receptionist had severe asthma since the age 12 requiring constant medications and multiple hospital visits. She knew about the results on this patient, she asked if she could try thyroid as well. I started her on 180 mg of desiccated thyroid and within a month raised her to 250 mg. This was in about 1986. She has been free of asthma symptoms since then. She still takes some medication occasionally but has not been in hospital for asthma since.

Encouraged by these results, I proceeded to work my way through all of my chronic asthma patients. At the time there were 22 severe asthmatics who came into my office on a regular basis for asthma attacks. Some came into the office once a month (or more often when in trouble) and some twice a year. Over about a 2-3 year period I gradually put all of them on desiccated thyroid. All patients improved tremendously. I would not say all of them were completely cured but the improvement was striking. Two things followed from this. By 1990 all asthma patients were on thyroid and thus from 1990 to 2002, I did not see another acute asthma attack in my office and none of these 22 patients came in for their asthma. The other slightly embarrassing problem was for a few months my waiting room became quite slow because of the absence of these asthma patients. From there I went on to learn what other benefits thyroid medication might have.

So it is my impression asthma is a low thyroid problem which can be better controlled and dealt with by thyroid treatment. Two patients who have been on these doses of thyroid for more than 15 years have had bone density tests show their bone density was completely normal. Prednisone (cortisone) used for acute severe asthma attacks has more serious potential for causing bone problems. Thyroid treatment, especially with supplementary iodine (Lugol's one drop daily) does not alter bone density short term or long term.

The only literature I can find on asthma and thyroid hormone was from the early part of the last century when many physicians found thyroid improved asthma. One 1911 study in a large Paris asthma clinic found thyroid treatment effective treatment for asthma.(1) However, adrenaline was discovered at the same time. Consequently all severe asthma patients went on daily injections of adrenaline for many years. The potential for using thyroid to help asthma was gradually forgotten. There was a study in 1968 in which they used growth hormone and thyroid to treat asthmatic children. They attributed the improvement to the growth hormone not the thyroid. (2) It has been noted repeatedly that asthma incidence is increasing in all age groups. I feel this is the result of a lower intake of iodine occurring in many families from decrease consumption of table salt. (3-6) The lower intake of iodine tends to make thyroid glands work poorly and cause hypothyroidism and thus increase the chances of asthma in those who are susceptible.

We know that by tracing radioactive thyroid hormone injected into animals shows the hormone concentrates in the aveoli of the lungs. These are the lower air sacs that we have to exchange oxygen with. Also for a good 100 years iodine preparations have been used on chronic chest problems and asthmatics. Iodine is excreted in the lung mucus. In fact iodine in excreted in all mucous secretions such as the mouth(saliva) stomach, bowels, cervix, and lungs. The iodine in the mucous likely helps to kill any bacteria or viruses. Thus both iodine and thyroid hormone are involved in lung physiology. For example most, if not all, sleep apnea patients are fixed with adequate doses of thyroid. Chronic obstructive lung disease (COPD) also is helped by thyroid hormone treatment.

The amount of iodine in the lung mucus possibly explains the paradox that the Japanese who are amongst the heaviest smokers in the world also have one the lowest lung cancer rates. It is likely the high levels of iodine in their blood is excreted in the lung mucus. This iodine then by apoptosis (natural cell death)could be killing off any abnormal cells as they develop that are caused by the cigarette carcinogens. In addition iodine reacts directly with carcinogens and chemical to render them inactive. (7) The Japanese have had an average dietary iodine intake of about 10 mg for many centuries. If the level of iodine intake is above 2-3 mg daily then the thyroid gland becomes saturated within two weeks and does not take iodine up anymore. Thus the most of the iodine can then go to the other parts of the body to carry out iodine's mulitple important functions. The most important of these is relataed to killing off of pre-cancerous abnormal cells. Our intake of iodine as laid down by the WHO is around 15-200 micrograms. This is about one tenth the needed dose to saturate the thyroid gland. So most iodine or a large part of the dietary iodine in Westerners goes to the thyroid gland. This leaves less than optimal amounts going to the rest of the body."

Extract from About.com

Replied by Merryanne
Orange City, Florida, Usa
06/13/2010
120 posts

Thank you Bill,, The iodine article is VERY informative and useful, thank you,,I hope you are doing well.

Replied by Dana
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
02/25/2012

Just something I figured out b/c I was looking for more information to accompany this info to share with a friend - the doctor's last name, from what I could find via google seems to be Derry, not Berry. I'm sure it was a mis-type, but it was helpful to me to find that out.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
02/25/2012
1249 posts

It's also useful to also understand that there are several other specific beneficial effects of both iodine and thyroid hormones on the human lung area.

From research it is known now that T3 and T4 as well as iodine have a tendency to collect and accumulate in the lungs. Add to this that iodine has significant anti-histamine properties (inhibits conversion of histidine to histamine) and is also secreted from all the mucus glands in the throat, nose and lungs and you have a high degree of protection against infection and inflammation. In the old days, high dose lugol's iodine was a regular and successful therapy for chronic forms of emphysema, bronchitis and asthma. Add to this that the Japanese are one of the heaviest smoking groups in Asia and the world. Yet they also have one of the lowest rates of lung cancer (and low rates of breast and prostate cancers) in the world because they have such a large daily iodine intake in their diets. Iodine is anti-mutagenic and anti-carcinogenic(anti-cancer). Iodine also kills 95% of all known pathogens and yet is beneficial and very necessary for our bodies.

So if you are a smoker or have weak or asthmatic lungs, supplementing lugol's iodine on a regular basis would certainly help you.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
02/26/2012

Here in Europe, in an obscure chemical dispensing store, I found a "Lugol's Liquid" that has:

Potassium Iodide 0. 66 gr.
Iodine 0. 4 gr.
Water 100 ml.

Is this a "normal" Lugol's or is it 1/10th of the "normal" Lugol's strength??

Replied by Serlche
Roxas City, Capiz Philippines
02/26/2012

Bill, where can I buy iodine in the Philippines?

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
02/26/2012
1249 posts

Regarding your questions on Lugol's Iodine:

Reply to Mmsg from Somewhere: --

The original 5% lugol's iodine consisted of 44 gms of iodine dissolved in 88 gms of potassium iodide(KI) all mixed in 1 litre of water.

So, 4.4 gms of iodine dissolved in 8.8 gms of KI would give the same 5% LI strength in only 100 mls of water.

Therefore your iodine -- which consists of 0.44 gm iodine in 0.66 gm KI in 100 mls of water is about 0.5% LI strength very approximately because the additives are approx 1/10 the quantity of those in the last paragraph in the same 100 mls of water.

Reply to Seriche from Roxas City: --

You can buy Lugol's from...

INFINITY WELLNESS CENTER
1039 Banawe st, Manressa Quezon City
tel (632) 3622024; (632) 4758212; (63) 908 4599829
www.lightinfinitywellness.com
They sell 5% Lugols Iodine

GENERICS KING PHARMACY
San Francisco
930-G Del Monte Ave,
SFDM,
1104 Quezon City,
Philippines

Tel: 632-4116692
Link:http://www.genericsking.com/
They sell 2% Lugols Iodine

I have successfully bought Lugol's from the Wellness Center -- but if you buy from this source do not tell them you are using it orally. They nearly refused to sell LI to me when I told them I was using it orally.

These are the only sources I know about because I live on Luzon. This probably wont help you much because you live on Capiz in the south. You can also buy off the internet from sulit(dot)com or classifiedads(dot)ph but this is generally much more expensive than buying from a shop. If you need Iodine badly for a thyroid disorder, the other option you have would be to eat seaweed mixed in with rice and soup at mealtimes like the Japanese do it. I can buy a kilo of seaweed from the market where I live for only 20 pesos (50 cents American). This is buy far the cheapest way to naturally supplement larger amounts of iodide/iodine.

Replied by Serlche
Roxas City, Philippines
02/27/2012

Dear Bill, Thank you so much for replying my query at once. I'l try to contact them tomorrow. I saw what reads like providen iodine somewhere in one of the groceries oil section here in our place? Is this one the same with the one you're mentioning? Thank you so much- you're such a big help to filipinos looking for natural remedies!

Replied by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
02/27/2012

I have recently been experiencing good results for the strengthening of the lungs w/ merely 1 cap Schizandra Berry per day. I was taking S for liver health and noticed the improvement in lungs. I also supplement Iodine.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
02/27/2012
1249 posts

Hi Seriche... No you must not take povidone iodine or Betadine internally. It's OK to use these topically on the skin or as a vaginal wash or as a mouthwash though. Povidone iodine is an iodophore -- where the iodine is bound to polymers. So this form of iodine, if you like, is "plastic iodine" which would not be internally beneficial to your body. Stick to just 5% Lugols Iodine -- this has been proved to be the safest, most effective and best-balanced form of iodine for the body by the Iodine Investigation Project and it is one of the cheaper forms for iodide/iodine suplementation. But the tough part is finding a seller-source in the Philippines.

Replied by Serlche
Roxas City, Capiz, Philippines
02/28/2012

Thanks a lot for the imformation Bill. I'm sure you know also where I could purchase Lysine. Another thing I would like to inquire is about squalene claiming that the oil came from the shark. As far as I know shark fishing is prohibited in the Phil. Are the squalene fish oil produced in our country authentic or possibly just taken from any fish that has bigger sizes of liver? I just wanted to hear your opinion as I've trusted you on the basis of your thorough knowledge and research on natural remedies. I am afraid it might contain mercury which is very dangerous to health especially the kidney. Thank you so much and I hope you won't get tired of responding to my quiries. I also engage myself into research but I believe it's more helpful if I could seek the opinion of others.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
02/28/2012
1249 posts

Hi Serlche... You can buy Lysine at GNC and Healthy Options stores in the SM Malls in Cebu, Davao and Iloilo. GNC tends to be unnecessarily expensive but Healthy Options tends to be cheaper, their quality is good and their range of nutrients and supplements is much greater than GNC. If you have no SM in Roxas City, then you might be able to find a good health shop in the Gaisano Malls there.

I have never used squalene because it is also difficult to get and because it is so expensive.

It would also perhaps be a help if you told us why you want to take supplements like lugol's iodine and squalene. It's only a suggestion but if you explained your problem or symptoms then the EC community could possibly all put their heads together to help you even more to resolve any problems that you might have. I also tend to recommend wonderful and effective herbs like Chanca Piedra(Sampa-sampalukan), Heavenly Elixir(Makabuhay), Tumeric (Dilaw), Graviola (Guyabano), Neem (Nim) and Bashful Mimosa(Makahiya) etc which are all profuse and grow for free in the Philippines lowlands. But I cannot recommend any herbs for you unless you let me know what your problems and symptoms are in this respect. To help you further -- here is a very good source of useful Filipino herbs, with photos and packed with useful information, which might interest you:

http://www.stuartxchange.org/CompleteList.html


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Posted by K (Glendale, Az) on 07/24/2008
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Warning

"Ion Ozone is toxic: Ion electrostatic precipitators release small doses of ozone as a byproduct, ozone is toxic and can eat away at the tissue of your lungs."

So, the question remains, how much is 'small dosage' and how much can each individual handle?

I owned the Sharper Image's (I know product names are not supposed to be used, but I am adamant about people knowing about this company as there is a class action suit against them with regards to its unhealthy ozone emissions) Ionic Breeze air purifier. Over the course of 4 years, my families health deteriorated. It was slow, unnoticeable and very damaging. We finally are on the road back to recovery, but not completely out of the woods.

Also beware of work environments that use this type of air purification as well.

All in all, if you were like me (my family) and you have a host of ailments that numerous Dr's. are not able to pin point or help, and you own/use any ionic type devices, stop. Give it at least a month, and if your symptoms don't subside, at least you will know it has nothing to do with the ozone being emitted by these ionic type devices. You'll have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

FYI- A parent of one of my son's teammates is a RN at a well known hospital here in the Valley, and I told her about the Ionic Breeze and how harmful it has been on myself and my family and she immediately replied "Oh yeah, you can't use those...they can cause lung cancer, we see it all the time."

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07/25/2008
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I have been using an ionic air-dryer for several years now, and have been getting bronchitis and wheezing...could this be causing it? Can they really precipitate lung cancer?


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Reduce lung infections from alpha 0ne antitrypsin deficiency:

My history has been 3-4 lung infections per year, all my life. Antibiotics were my only salvations for infections. I now use a small pinch of organic MSM and a couple of sprays of colloidal silver in my inhalation treatments every other day with no infections for over a year.The projected life span for a AATD is about 55 years if you're a non smoker. I am now 70. We discovered I had AATD about 8 years ago. I have incorporated several herbs since then trying to keep me going with fair results. If anyone is interested in my system, contact me.

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New Carlisle, Quebec, Canada
07/03/2016

I just got out of the hospital a few weeks ago. I have a hole in my upper right lung n the hole was full of infection n with the help of antibiotics it went away but since yesterday I think the infection is starting up again because of the hissing n coughing of a yellowessh flem I'm coughing up again.



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