Hypothyroid Remedies


Posted by Lauren (Orlando, FL) on 08/25/2014

Hi Everyone.....I have a quick question....does anyone know why every time I attempt to use enzymes, it always cause a burning sensation in my stomach....I am hypothyroid and always feel like anything I eat is not digested the way it should....any advice would be helpful....Thank you...

Replied by Mmsg
(Somewhere, Europe)

Lauren, can you experiment with a MUCH lower amount?

Replied by Andrea
(Wales, UK)

Hi Lauren xxx

Go to a website called 'stop the thyroid madness' lots of information and what to do to help yourself on there.

Love Andrea C xx

Estrogen Link to Hypothyroidism

Posted by Smokymtnlady (Nashville, Tn) on 08/24/2016

Possible insight into relationship between hypo symptoms and estrogen:

Ted, I have had neck and jaw and thyroid pain 10 months now with some other hypothyroid symptoms as well. (outer third of eyebrows gone, slow digestive function, 4 menstrual periods in the past 9 months, receding gums, kidney pain)

I have been researching how to resolve this including your page which has helped me too many times to count. Today I ran across TWO articles linking excess ESTROGEN with thyroid problems. Ted, I switched birth control exactly the same month these problems started. But I have always taken progestin-only birth control. Or so I thought! After seeing these articles I checked my birth control. The former birth control was progestin. But 10 months ago I switched to combo progestin/estrogen. (I didn't realize I was taking estrogen!) I am going to take 90 days off and let you know what happens with my thyroid pain.

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Posted by Merryanne (Orange City, Florida, Usa) on 02/26/2013 117 posts

Lab results of TSH: I had a lab done on 2-21-2013 and the one I don't understand is the TSH, 3rd generation is 4.62 (0.40-4.50 mIU/L) it ia marked as High does this mean that my thyroid is high or low? I am 66 yo and had 4 surgeries from last year April till Sep. 1, 2012, the doctor did not seem overly consinerd about it, but if someone understands these labs I would love to know what they mean. Merrryanne in Central FL

Replied by Belladonna
(Toronto, On)

Hi, It looks lke your thyroid is a little bit on a HYPO ( low) side. What about your other thyroid tests? Free T3 and Free T4? The results of TSHm T3 and T4 will give more precise picture of your thyroid health.


Replied by Linda
(New Haven, Ct, United States)

I often check my lab work on this site: http://labtestsonline.org/

Use the section on the right hand side to pull up each of the tests conducted by the lab, then just read the various tabs that appear. You will then have a good understanding of your results.


Replied by Merryanne
(Orange City, Florida, Usa)
117 posts

Thank you Belladonna for your response: The results I posted are from my regular blood work, I forgot to ask the doc did mean high or low, what I mentiond was the only result concerning TSH, thank you, Merryanne in Central FL

Replied by Roma
(Osseo, Mn)

Thanks Linda! This site is very helpful in interpreting test information never shared by doctors.

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Posted by Anon (Queens, Ny) on 06/06/2012

Hi Ec..... I am hypothyroid, have been for the past three years. As many of us who has this disease know, you can never feel the way you did when you were not sick. I personally have changed my diet, used every green drink/vitamin imaginable and am still struggling. Recently, I have noticed that anytime I have a stressful day, or has overworked, I would have this sudden discomfort directly in the center of my chest. It would last from an hour to sometimes the whole day. I have used cayenne, lemon water, magnesium, fresh green juice, co q10, apple cider vinegar, garlic etc but nothing seems to help until one day out of desperation, I reached for a glass of milk don't ask me why.. All I know is that it took maybe 10 mins for the feeling to just disappear. I cannot up till now figure out why milk out of everything helped this issue. Could it me I was lacking calcium? I hope someone in this wonderful community can help me figure out this one. Please guys.... Bill, Lisa, anyone.... Your input would be very appreciated. God Bless

Replied by Pnutb
(Somewhere, Usa)

Sounds like you have reflux.

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)

As I read this post, I am wondering about copper?

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Posted by Highonfaith (Philadelphia, Pa.) on 10/08/2011

I swim everyday for 30 min. in an indoor chlorinated pool. I also have hypothyroidism. Is this bad for me? I have ask two Dr.s but they seem clueless. I have come across a couple of comments online that suggest swimming in an indoor chlorinated pool is bad for the thyroid. Is this true? Unfortunately, because of knee problems and shin splints I have had to move to a low impact aerobic form of exercise. Swimming seemed a viable alternative.

After swimming for a year, I am now worried about my thyroid. I had the condition well before I started swimming. But, I'm wondering if I'm exasperating my condition? Or, asking for even more trouble with my thyroid by swimming? It is all in an attempt to stay healthy, and maintain a level of fitness despite my hypothyroidism, but now I'm wondering if I'm doing more harm then good.

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

Chlorine depletes the body of iodine so I guess the answer to your question is swimming in a chlorinated pool bad for your hypothyroidism bad for you.

Hypothyroidism is caused by a lack of, or deficiency of iodine so you need to supplement with iodine & I suggest you read the book "Iodine why you need it and why you can't live without it" by Dr. Brownstein.

Iodine is needed all over the body so if you have hypothyroidism you probably have other ailments also attributed to iodine deficiency as well or will have soon.

If you search Dr. Brownstein on youtube he has some excellent videos on iodine.

Replied by Wendy
(....., Canada)

I didn't catch the original post for this but in regards to swimming in a chlorinated pool, It just isn't worth it IMO and I won't allow my kids to swim in one either. My husband would like them to learn how to swim and our pool is only open a few months out of the year but I won't let them go to the pool at the Y because it is so incredibly toxic on sooo many levels... I did a whack of research on it trying to show him the pros and cons. I recall reading something years ago about kids who swam like once a week in a chlorinated pool and how damaging on their respitory system and causing ashtma etc. Last time I was in a chlorinated pool 5 years ago on vacation, I went to get out and could hardly stand up!!! Don't let people fool you with 'salt pools'... Same diff - research it, its not the healthy option they lead you to believe. Great Wolf lodge? I walked in the room and it BURNED MY LUNGS just breathing it- YUK!!!! I turned around and walked back out. WOW, can't believe people take their kids there.

We put up our own pool and run it on hydrogen peroxide (we purchase 35% in 5 gallon jugs, and then the following year we bought them in drums (maybe 18 gallons?? not sure my husband gets them from an agriculture place that services farms ;-)) and then we buy test strips. When shocking you can shoot for 100 ppm and some recommend keeping it at 50-75 ppm.... Which seems to work well ;-) there is information online about converting yoru pool to h202. We tried ozone for a few years but it wasn't a stand alone product and we got algae so we switched to the h202 and algae bars which I couldn't find this year ;-) Just my 2 cents on the evils of chlorine ;-(

Replied by Jesse
(Ann Arbor)

Seeking help with a diagnosis..


  • Fatigue
  • Poor concentration
  • Poor memory
  • Apathy/lack of interest or motivation
  • Depression
  • Intermittent occurrences of what I assume is mild Dyshidrotic eczema on my hands
  • Often light headed upon standing
  • Thin facial hair; falls out.
  • Caffeine makes my face break out.
  • Poor circulation fairly often (cold hands and feet)
  • Premature ejaculation
  • Face ranges from semi-dry to outright oily
  • Extremely pale completion (Pallor)
  • Severe sugar and alcohol cravings
Brief history:

After getting fed up with conventional doctors' bullshit (being put on SSRI's and the like),

Saw a holistic doctor when I was perhaps 22. Said I was borderline hypothyroidic. Put me on some type of thyroid med (Armour thyroid if memory serves), to no avail. Gave up.

Nearly 28 now. Recently ate a lot of cruciferous vegetables (for whatever reason) over the course of two or three days and skin began to itch horribly for the better part of 36 hours. Looked into it, made the hypothyroid connection. Did some preliminary research and decided to start supplementing my diet with kelp (for the iodine) and Brazil nuts (for the selenium). Cut out all known "goitrogens" etc. After two or three days, woke up today feeling energetic, in fairly good spirits, yet slightly nervous (all of which are unprecedented for me). Ate a moderate breakfast that kept me satiated well into the afternoon (usually I have cravings). Crashed half way thru the day and couldn't even get myself into the gym to do light cardio for 30 minutes.

Can someone help me out, here? What the hell is going on with me? Should I continue using kelp and brazil nuts?

Any help is greatly appreciated, Jesse

Replied by Timh
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
2073 posts

Jesse, everything you have described as symptoms all point to toxicity. To begin cleaning start w/ your environment --home, workplace, food, water, air. Next start a parasite cleanse and proceed to kill chronic infections (bacteria, fungi, viruses). Next get out possible heavy metals and zenobiotics (that cause parasites and infections) w/ ionic foot spa, detox foot pads, and oil pulling.

Info on the particulars of these protocols are found on this site. Also, body buffering or alkalizing is very important as well as oxygenation. Take whole body hot baths of 1/4 cup Epsom salt 1/4 cup baking soda and rotate to either a ACV or Borax bath for infections.

Support the liver and kidneys w/ recommended herbs. NAC is a must for glutathione boosting (detoxification). Flood your body with nutrition especially antioxidants. Coconut oil or caprylic acid is a must. A good 3-6-9 oil supplement will help much.

Be diligent and patient because this process could take months or as much as 2 yrs depending on specific conditions.

Replied by Mmsg
(Somewhere, Europe)

Jesse, one thing I have read is not to take TOO much selenium, which means that I do not take more than ONE OR TWO brazil nuts a day. NOT MORE.

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Philippines)

Hi Jesse... Regarding your own problems, it would seem from the symptoms that you have described that you are hypothyroid or low thyroid at the very least. Therefore you should take the full Iodine Protocol given in the link to replenish both your thyroid and your whole body's need for iodine/iodide.

Here is a link to the most current research that explains the whole body's need(not just the thyroid's need) for regular iodine/iodide using lugol's iodine:

Iodine Research

Unfortunately, it doesn't end there. Two of your symptoms make me quite suspicious and I wonder about another possible associated problem:

Caffeine makes my face break out.

Severe sugar and alcohol cravings

These symptoms are not indications of low thyroid -- they are symptoms of candida. Caffeine removal happens in the liver -- so you may have a stressed or insufficinet liver because of candida or parasites. Severe sugar and alcohol cravings can also be associated with candida problems. In my own experience of treating candida -- everyone I have ever helped(including curing myself of systemic candida) has had low thyroid symptoms always associated with their candida problems. I had 80%-90% of the same problems and symptoms that you have now except I also had psoriasis, eczma, jock itch, athletes foot, continual bloating, constipation etc. I can't possibly define all the diseases that can be associated with candida -- it would take up too much room -- but have a look at this link for for a full range of recognized candida associated symptoms. No two people will ever have the same candida symptoms which is why doctors have such a poor record of identifying early stage candida problems. And because of candida's wide associations with other diseases and problems such as low thyroid, gastro-intestinal problems, skin problems etc -- no two candida sufferers will ever have exactly the same symptoms.

So you must find out whether you have systemic or local candida problems. You can do a quick check on yourself and look at your tongue. If it is white or blotchy white(instead of a healthy pink) then you probably have candida. Best to go to a naturopath and tell him or her to test for candida(medical doctors are clueless at diagnosing early stage candida). Also ask the naturopath for a hair analysis to see what heavy metals and bad halogens you have in your body. The hair analysis will also reveal what minerals you are lacking in your diet.

If you do have candida then the whole ballgame changes and you should take the Anti-Candida Protocol.

But first you must confirm whether your low thyroid problems are due insufficient iodine or whether they are due to internal candida problems. So your best bet is to first go to a naturopath, as I have already described, for confirmation either way.

Replied by Wendy
(Columbus, Oh)

You may have an adrenal issue, but I'm certainly no expert!

Now I'm not advertising this center; just helping you hone in on one in your area that may help you.

I would suggest contacting the The Nutritional Healing Center of Ann Arbor - (734) 302-7575. While I've never been there, it appears that they do Nutrition Response Testing, recommend eating whole foods and taking Standard Process whole food supplements.

Their website is


I've been seeing a specialist in Columbus, Ohio for the past 4 years who does Nutrition Response Testing, and I've experienced excellent results.

Best of luck!

Replied by Wendy427
(Columbus, Oh, Usa)
21 posts

Re chlorinated pools: I swim regularly at our local health club who will be introducing SPHAGNUM MOSS to augment their chlorine-based filtration system. Apparently sphagnum moss can DECREASE the chlorine by as much as 50%(! ).

Currently, there are some universities and health centers who are already using sphagnum moss.

I found this link which explains more:


Replied by Had
(White River Jct, Vermont)

You may just be hypothyroid or have the autoimmune Hashimoto's--that attacks your thyroid. I think this because you said you took thyroid meds and it did nothing, been there. By taking them you increased your immune response to attack and had even less energy than you started w/. on what you are doing. Go to hypothyroid or Hashimotos page, there is wonderful info already written. Invest in Dr. Brownstein book on autoimmune/thyroid (not exact name). It will give you a fuller accurate picture of a treatment plan.

You will also want to see someone in natural med who agrees about using iodine. The reason for this, once your thyroid is off/not working right it affects ALL your hormone levels. When you introduce iodine to focus on fixing the thyroid, if your adrenals are not keeping up you won't have sustained energy, the balance is tricky so help is good (someone who muscle tests is best so you get the correct dosing you actually need) and I'm 3 1/2 weeks into Hoshi treatment, it is up and down. I am having on/off with the healing crisis, Dr. Brownstein states usually 3 months on 'therapy' levels of iodine, for me 100mgs a day, or until all symptoms have stopped, then a slow decrease to 'maintainance' level of 12/5 mg a day. And people being people that is an average number for maintainance, you wean yourself down and stop at the level where you don't feel as well, move back up a drop then stay there. don't give up.

Replied by Kk
(Seattle, Wa)

Look into parasites cleanses

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Posted by Loren (Brooklyn, Ny) on 06/12/2011

Hey EC: I have a quick question for anyone with an answer. In my quest for a healthier lifestyle since being diagonosed as hypothyroid, I started a morning smoothie made with pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, wheatgerm, a few brazil nuts and a splash of milk. A day or so after drinking this smoothie, I noticed that I kinda feel wired and struggle to sleep in the night. I am tired but I just cannot sleep. Also, I developed a constant headache. Any idea whats going on? I love this smoothie and don't want to stop drinking it because of these problems. Help please someone!!!! Thank you guys.

Replied by Hashimotos Sufferer
(Melbourne, Australia)

It will be the brazil nuts and the pumpkin seeds - Selenium in both is the active ingredient. They can act to convert t4 to t3 and may tip you into being hyperthyroid. (Read Mary Shamon on this) If you are on medication for the hypothyroid or, if you have hashimotos disease as well, you may have too much active thyroid hormone in your system. This explains the headache that won't go away and a wired feeling. Don't change your medication - it takes at least 8 weeks to have an effect. Just cut out the nuts and seeds. It is so cold here that the hyporthyroid symptoms are out so lots of Vitamin D and selenium supplementation. Get your adrenals checked - that could also be a reason for night-time waking.

Replied by Carly
(Seattle , Wa - Usa)

Hi Loren...

It sounds like a herxheimer or detox reaction to me. You may have taken too much of a good thing too fast, and your body couldn't keep up with it. You miight want to cut back a bit on how much you drink at a time, and work up to it more slowly.

Just a thought... But any time I do anything new, if I try too much too fast I get ill. I know that it is sometimes hard to start of slow, because we want to feel better FAST... but it is really worth it to allow our bodies the time to adjust to the new thing we are ingesting (mo).

Hypothyroid Remedies

Posted by Theresa (United States) on 11/07/2019

I really need help. I have had chemical sensitivities for most of my adult life. I am 70 years old. I have never been able to take medications without great pain running throughout my body. Especially my legs, hands and kidneys. I am at a VERY SCARY place right now as I need medication for a extremely low thyroid condition. I tried taking the lovothyroxine (lowest dosage) also called tirosent made without fillers and binders, and my body is wracked with pain. I am crying as write this,, and feel there is no hope. I stopped taking it for 3 days however it takes weeks for me to start feeling improvement. Doctors said I could die. Please Please help.

Replied by Nonnie

Hi Theresa -

I know it's difficult but please don't feel hopeless. There are some really great solutions on Earth Clinic's hypothyroid page (especially posts from Bill from the Philippines and Mama to Many). https://earthclinic.com/ailments/hypothyroid/

It's a long read but really worth it. Not everything works for everyone but it will give you a starting point. Also, since your body can't tolerate synthetic thyroid, you can have your doctor prescribe natural thyroid (desiccated thyroid - usually from a pig). Try out some of the options and see how you feel. Keep your diet as clean as possible (some people do better without gluten) and stay hydrated. I wish you all the best.

Take care, Nonnie

Mama to Many

Hi Theresa,

I haven't posted about thyroid in quite some time. I was able to manage it naturally for a long time, but needed more than that a year or so ago. I found a practitioner who is more inclined to do things naturally. She prescribed Nature Thyroid. It is a prescription. It has T 3 and T4. I have done very well on it. (Synthroid, however, did not agree with me 10 or so years ago when I tried it.) I had asked about Armour Thyroid, but she felt that because I have autoimmune diseases that Armour wasn't a good choice for me. As it turned out I am glad I didn't take it in light of the more recent diagnosis of Alpha Gal Syndrome (mammalian allergy), since Armour is a mammalian based product and could cause allergic reaction. ~Mama to Many~

Replied by Elizabeth

I'm so sorry for your situation. Most hypothyroid patients do best with t3 added. I'm on t4 and t3. There are cardiologists who prescribe t3 to their heart patients. I hope this helps.

Replied by Rita

I have treated my Hypothyroidism for many years with BITTERS! Bitter Tonic is an Herbal remedy. It is available at Wise Woman Herbals in Cottage Grove, Oregon. It may now be available at Mountain Rose Herbals, in Eugene, Oregon. This mixture causes the glands in your mouth to release much needed saliva to help aid in digestion. I have used this since 1997. My thyroid is functioning properly! I hope this might help you!


That's amazing, Rita! How much and how often do you need to take the bitters tonic to prevent hypothyroidism?

Hypothyroid Symptoms

Posted by Laura (Orlando, Fl) on 06/16/2011

Hey EC: I am hoping someone can help me with this problem. Shortly after being diagnosed as being hypothyroid, I noticed that small white spots started appearing on my legs/calves etc. Didn't pay much attention to it until the other day while doing a pedicure, I was stunned to see how much it had spread. Anyone knows what is causing this? Is this a common symptom of this disease? What if it keeps spreading. Help someone/anyone with an answer. Thank you EC. You people are the best!!!

Replied by Cindy
(Houston, Tx)

My husband also has those white spots and his doctor didn't know what they were either. I researched the net and found out that his were "Stucco Keratosis". Unfortunately there is no cure for that. I have a few at the bottom of my legs also. My husbands' always show lighter after he gets out of the pool. Maybe the chlorine does it. Not contagious, just unsightly.

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)

Hi, there are all kinds of white spots, so it is difficult to say what it is. I started having white spots on my legs years ago, then they started spreading and the ones in the legs started getting bigger. Doctors have no idea what it is but they all assure me that it is not viltligo. It is quite ugly and nowdays I have quite a few on my arms, chest, some on my back. I have tried quite a few things but nothing has helped. I found out that this particular kind of spots is called Idiopathic Guttate Hypomelanosis. I have now been trying to rub lemon juice on them twice a day (don't go in the sun for a while after doing this or you might get more stains) also because I have a few age spots but so far nothing has happened neither with the white or the brown ones. Sorry.......... No idea what causes them!

Replied by Melanie
(Farmington, Maine)

Several months ago I purchased organic coconut oil, not for hypothyroidism, which I now believe I have, because my hair is falling out rapidly, and also read here that 'brain fog' and low body temp are also symptoms of it, which I also have. In reading about it on here, it looks like I need to go look for 'cold pressed' CO. The jar says 'expeller pressed'. It was very expensive at $9.51 for a 14 oz. jar. What is the difference in the way it is pressed? Will 'expeller pressed' work? I hunted in this small town for a long time looking for any CO and finally found this at the health food store.

Replied by Had
(White River Jct, Vt)

To M from farmington, I"ve only been using VCO for a short time. What I noticed in difference of CO vs- VCO, the good stuff VCO, when you open the jar you smell coconuts, everytime! The other, nothing so smell nothing, get nothing in benefit.

Replied by Dan

Mercury amalgam fillings prevent T4 thyroid medication from working properly. Mercury is a endocrine and enzyme disrupter and you will likely not feel well until all of your amalgam fillings are safely removed by a biological dentist.

I found this out after I had 11 amalgam fillings removed and I had chelation therapy afterwards to flush the mercury and other heavy metals from my body. About 8 months after I had my fillings removed and replaced with composite I started feeling better after suffering for 40 yrs with depression, suicidal thoughts, fatigue, headaches, brain fog. In fact, there are 150 know symptoms of chronic mercury poisoning from amalgam fillings which helps keep the doctors and hospitals from running out of patients. Amalgam fillings have been banned in Europe and the Philippines now for about 10 yrs now but are still legal in North America.

Here's former dentist Dr. Hal Huggins. After Dr. Huggins refused to give mercury amalgam fillings and root canals to his patients his dentist license was revoked. Dangers Of Amalgam Fillings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmYFDkIa6kw

Replied by Melissa

Regarding keratosis....I had keratosis pilaris on my arms that cleared up completely when I stopped eating wheat.

Hypothyroid Symptoms
Posted by Loveysiera (Hayfork, Ca, U.s) on 04/28/2011

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has had the same issues I'm dealing with being Hypothryoid.

I had RAI done in 2009 for being Hyperthyroid, consequently I became Hypo due to this procedure I'm taking 137mg of Synthroid but find that I'm still dealing with the most troublesome issue of burning and watery eyes. I now have noticed that one of my eyelids is drooping a bit my Dr says my levels are fine with the Synthroid and that in time this should go away???? Has anyone had to deal with this before?

Any feedback would be so helpful, Thank you so much...


Replied by Anita
(Redmond, Wa)

I have hypothyrodism with a level of 4.8 and my doctor prescribed me synthroid of 50 mcg which I was afraid to take. I feel week, have brain fog at innumerable times during a day. I like to know if yoga or applying coconut oil will help me.

I am having 2 drops of iodide/iodine every day on emty stomach. Please help me as I don't want to take medication. Weight gain is there.

Replied by Jessica
(Chicago, Il)

I was just told by a nutritionalist/naturopathic person that have definite adrenal fatigue and a thyroid issue, but haven't been to the doctor to figure out for sure. (No insurance) Well I took her advice with the iodine and I'm taking 4 dropper fulls and supposed to go up to 6 dropper fulls which is way over the direction doses on the packages..... And its working! In 48 hrs, the large lump in my throat that has been very uncomfortable (hard to swallow, restricts breathing) is gone or at least has shrunk enough to not notice it. I do know that with iodine supplementation you have to take Vitamin C and B's to carry it through for absorbtion in the body. Vitamin C has to be around 1500 mg and Extra B's. I was told not be scared of the high doses because you'll just pee them out within a few hours, but they are very important in absobing the nutrients. If anyone has any more knowledge they'd like to throw my way I'd love the feedback! Also how do you know if you are HYPO or HYPER thyroid? My symptoms are a mixture of both and a lot of adrenal. Which from my understanding adrenal & thryroid go hand in hand?

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

Jessica, when taking iodine and vitamin c ensure they are taken at different times of the day. If you have an iodine stain on clothes for instance putting vitamin c crystals on the stain will make it disappear.

Replied by Imcinnamon
(Orlando, Fl)

Hypothyroid issue for yrs, now. Nothing was really making a difference. Bought colored Iodine in a bottle from the pharmacy and did a patch test. The orange color was completely gone in an hr. Taking Iodine and selenium now, and in 1 day that huge goiter was gone! Swallowing normally for 1st time in yrs, noticed feet and face are softer in a week, brain fog gone, and my hair loss is 90 % less, My joint pains are almost completely gone, they were so bad, there were times I had to crawl from the bed to the bathroom in the mornings. I just began middle age, so this was especially difficult. I will be adding b vit and A and C as well. Why didn't I find this info yrs ago? Dr. Jonathan v. Wright's site helped as well as this one and Dr. Mercola.

Replied by Joanna
(Denver, Co)

Anita, when 1st diagnosed with hypothyroidism I was put on Synthroid but was constantly ill. After refusing to continue with Synthroid, I was prescribed Armour and I felt a difference immediately, and no longer felt ill. Personally, I refuse to use any synthetic (laboratory-made) thyroid products again (e.g. , Synthroid, Levothroid, levothyroxin, etc. On the other hand, Armour Desiccated Thyroid Hormone, Nathroid, Westhroid, and other brands derived from the thyroid gland of the pig, use natural glandular concentrates or extracts containing thyroid hormone. Now I order mine online, porcine thryoid health which is much like Armour if not the same, and am feeling really good. Armour Thyroid and other natural thyroid preparations contain natural thyroid hormone. Armour Thyroid and most natural thyroid preparations are made to standards approved by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP), which helps assure that its potency is accurately stated on the label. They contain T4, T3, T2, and T1 and most closely resemble natural human thyroid hormone. At the proper dose, natural thyroid hormone works quite well and are preferred by nearly all "natural" or "alternative" physicians. Synthetics, on the other hand, consist solely of T4. They depend on the body to convert the T4 to T3 and the other metabolites.

Replied by Candyny
(Cambria Heights, Ny, Usa)

Hi Imcinnamon,

I'd like to know what is your regimen/dosage amount for taking the iodine and selenium? How long was it before you started seeing results? Have you lost/gained any weight as well?

I am trying to locate a good practitioner in NYC to properly diagnose and treat me as I have over 90% of the symptoms for having an underactive thyroid in addition to an somewhat enlarged goiter. I am also looking to lose some weight as well.

I appreciate suggestions/input you have, thanks!

Replied by Alindley
(Middlefield, Ohio)

I have read these threads with interest because I have speculated I might have a thyroid issue because of my fatigue and inability to lose weight. I started taking 750 mg. of guggul extract along with 250 mg. of forskoli and in two days have noticed a drastic increase in energy. I reccommend only taking these supplements first thing in the morning. I used to be sluggish in the morning even after sleeping 7 hrs. But not anymore. For the women that got advice from her nutritionist that she might have adrenal fatigu and a thyroid issue.... If you noticed a lump in your neck then you most likely have hyperthyroidism which means your thyroid is already overactive and these supplements would not benefit you. There are herbal supplemetns you can research that heal the adrenal glands so I would suggest you start there and take a good multi-vitamin and eat nutritous foods. Goodluck!

Replied by Dins
(Kolkata, India)

Where do we get these items - EVCO, Apple Cider Vinegar etc. Are they at the grocers or medical shops?

EC: Some grocery stores sell both apple cider vinegar with the "mother" and virgin coconut oil. If you can't find there, try your local health food store.

Replied by Steve
(San Antonio, Tx)

I started off getting them at GNC. Then I found a Whole Foods. It's hard finding Iodine though. Get that offline.

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)

For the question of where to buy ACV with the mother and CO. I get mine at a large nationwide discount store, that does not require membership, at reasonable prices. I don't think I can give the name because I had another post removed due to mentioning it.

Replied by Trudyg
(Waynesboro, Va)

Go to the vinegar section of the store--you will see several brands. Look for one that says "Raw" or "unpasteurized", it will usually also say 'with the mother'. For coconut oil, it's in the section with the oils. Make sure you get one that says virgin, cold-pressed. It will look like shortening because stores are usually cooler and it's solid at over 74 degrees. I avoid the one in the white plastic bottle-you can't see what you're getting.

Hypothyroid Symptoms
Posted by Loren (Queens, Ny) on 10/19/2009

Hi everyone:

Does anyone know what causes the puffiness on face/hands etc in hypothyroid patients? Since my diagnosis recently, i have noticed that my hands especially are really puffy. Its really kinda scary. Thanks everyone for an early reply.

Replied by Sharik
(Arcata, Ca)

Hi, Loren.

The thyroid is an integral part of your endocrine system which includes the pituitary, pineal, thyroid, parathyroids, thymus, adrenal, pancreas, and ovaries. When one goes, they all act up. It takes a while for the synthetic hormone to work as you must find the level your body needs. Meanwhile, keep your DR. posted as to symptoms, for as you can see, this is not something to ignore. But don't be frightened about the hands. It's uncomfortable and unsightly, but it will pass as your body starts to use the synthetic hormone. I suggested the time-honored ACV in apple juice to balance the pH in your body until the pills kick in. This can take anywhere from two to six weeks. The reason I know all this: I have Hashimoto's disease (it runs in the family) so I've been through it all.

Good luck to you, but remember to keep your MD posted as to your progress.
Namaste, Shar

Replied by Loren
(Queens, Ny)

This message is for Sharik from California: Thank you very much for yr response. I will definitely let my doc know of this when I see her. I do have a question though - I had read somewhere on earth clinic that acv depletes the body of iodine. I was using it but when I read this, I stopped immediately. Have you ever heard of this? If so, any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks again for yr response.

Replied by Bessie
(Calgary, Alberta, Canada)

Hi Loren - I'm not Sharik but I did read the following about apple cider vinegar and iodine. On a Lugol's iodine bottle featured on the Web, they actually advise you to take one drop of Lugol's in a glass of water with 1 teaspoon of apple cider vinegar added to enhance the uptake of iodine. So it seems that taking apple cider vinegar when you have thyroid issues would be beneficial. Good luck!

Replied by Katie
(Edison, Nj)

From what I've read apple cider vinegar will boost whatever you take with it. Please do some research before you start taking iodine. As to how long to take it and how much. If you take it too long your thyroid counts will rocket. I should know mine went so high they stopped testing it. But I swear by apple cider and iodine. People are clueless when it comes to thyroid and how important iodine is to it. I had severe allergies, don't know if it was the ACV or iodine or combination of both but I am cured! My allergies are non-existant.

Replied by Loren
(Queens, Ny)

Thanks a lot Bessie for your feedback. I really do appreciate it.

Replied by Sharik
(Arcata, California)

To Loren from Queens:

I have never had that problem, but then I eat iodized salt as well as kelp, so I do get plenty of iodine. Since it's measured in mcg.s (micrograms) it doesn't take much. I drink ACV almost every day for pain (arthritis and Rheumatism) and haven't noticed any problem in 33 years of dealing with hypothyroidism but then we aren't cut out with cookie cutters, and not all people are the same. The person to ask is your pharmacist. I cultivate mine like a garden as he knows all sorts of marvelous stuff that my Dr. never heard of!

Having done a little research, I found this:

"Some foods block the uptake of iodine into the thyroid gland when eaten raw in large amounts. These include Brussels spouts (raw?!?!), cabbage, cauliflower, kale, peaches, pears, spinach, and turnips. If you have an underactive thyroid, you should limit your consumption of these foods." 'Prescription for Nutritional Healing' by Phyllis a Balch, CNC

I did not know this! And I do love my salads and slaws (I grow my own organic stuff). Learn something every day.....

Peace, sharik

Replied by Loren
(Queens, Ny)

To Janice from Mi: Thank you so much for yr response. I really do appreciate it. I do have one question though - what brand of Kelp do you use? I purchased one a few days ago but refrained from using it because it says on the bottle that there are some sonstituents in the kelp that contains carcinogens. Well when I checked the meaning of carcinogen I figured I better off not using it. Any feedback will be appreciated.

Replied by Sharik
(Arcata, California)

Kelp is seaweed. I always buy organic (expensive, true) but pure. You may have gotten hold of supplies from countries not always trustworthy in their manufacturing techniques. I buy the powdered form, use it in soups and stews, or if I need a real clean-out, I make my own capsules using 0 or 00 veggie capsules I buy from my herbal store or online. I also have a friend who has a resale license (wholesale) and occasionally I'll help her fill out a minimum order. I use a lot of herbs and spices for health and buying wholesale saves me a lot of money. Do you have an herb store or health food store in your area? They would be the best place to find the pure stuff.

Peace, Sharik

Replied by Janice
(Coloma, Mi)

Loren, we are not allowed to mention name brands. I have taken several different brands. Just try to find a plain Kelp. There are quite a few out there. The one I'm taking has 150 mcg of Natural Iodine from Kelp. I usually take two a day. One after breakfast and one with either lunch or dinner. On the bottle, it just says Kelp. Another thing I have done is mix my pepper shaker with pepper and kelp powder. That way when I put pepper on my food, I'm getting some extra Kelp. I hope that helps.

Replied by Geri
(Wills Point, Texas)

I have hypothyroid and am taking Amour thyroid. I still have a lot of symptoms like cold hands and feet, low temp, being tired and depressed some times. I just received my order of liquid Iodine. I have read so many good reports about it, but I am kind of confused as to how long I should take it. It seems to be good for so many other things. Can this be taken as a daily supplement or can you get too much? I hope someone can clear this up for me. Thanks so much

Replied by Jen
(Bozeman, Mt, Us)

There are alot of great benefits from daily iodine. From everything I have read and believe me I have looked into this subject extrenuously. There are a small number of people who should be careful with it. I would start small. With just a drop per day. See how you handle it. Then go up every week or two until you hit about 50 mg per day. Take this dosage for about 3 months to get the flouride, bromide, and chlorine detoxed from your thyroid and system. Then you should be able to drop back down to about 12.5 mg per day. I have read many articles saying that this is a good maintanance dosage. You could also take the 12.5 mg daily but I have read that it would take at least a year at this dosage to detox the halides from your system which in the long run is what will make your thyroid start to heal and regulate itself (hopefully).

Replied by Carmel
(Essex, England)

Have had underactive thyroid for at least a year, I suspect a lot longer as I was forever getting infections and feeling bad before. I take 100 mg of iodine each day, have read that you should not take it at all, now taking 25 of the synthetic thyroid from doctor each day, this is third day.

The first day I took it I felt so much better half an hour later! It was fantastic. But yesterday when I took it it seemed to have little or no effect.

Please do not suggest I go to the doctor and get total results of rests, in England it does not work that way. Here they just tell you that the blood test says you are under, end of discussion. And I cannot afford to go privately.

I eat a reasonable diet but am not obsessed and boring about it. I have little sugar or salt.

For a long time I have stuggled to want to do anything, or have any energy, have poor memory and concentration, headaches, ears kept getting filled, nose, which are all symptoms I know.

I cannot afford to take lots of different things.

You can respond to me at my email address at rychhmo at aol dot com.

Replied by Timh
2073 posts

C: If Iodine/Iodide alone doesn't correct the problem you will need to also use Coconut Oil on foods or cook with it AND supplement the amino acid Tyrosine. This combination should reduce your need for synthetic hormones as prescribed by Dr so you must go back a few weeks later and have another T-Panel done to adjust the meds.

The Thyroid can also get infected w/ some type pathogen or heavy metal. Selenium helps T against heavy metal toxicity. Much of England has relatively high or sometimes dangerously high Selenium in water & food supply so you may not need to take any Selenium.

Zinc/Elderberry throat lozenges are also very helpful for Thyroid conditions where there is infection or general free radical stress.

Hypothyroid Tests

Posted by Nat (Denver, CO) on 02/22/2015

Most doctors know hypothyroidism is an autoimmune disease. But most patients don't. The reason doctors don't tell their patients is simple: it doesn't affect their treatment plan.

Studies show that 90% of people with hypothyroidism are producing antibodies to thyroid tissue. This causes the immune system to attack and destroy the thyroid, which over time causes a decline in thyroid hormone levels. This autoimmune form of hypothyroidism is called Hashimoto's disease. While not all people with Hashimoto's have hypothyroid symptoms, thyroid antibodies have been found to be a marker for future thyroid disease.

The following are the five major thyroid patterns that don't show up on standard tests


TSH below the functional range (1.8 ? 3.0) but within the standard range (0.5 ? 5.0). The T4 will be low in the

functional range (and possibly the lab range too).


This common pattern is caused by inflammation and elevated cortisol levels. T4 to T3
conversion happens in cell membranes. Inflammatory cytokines damage cell membranes
and impair the body's ability to convert T4 to T3. High cortisol also suppresses the
conversion of T4 to T3. it doesn't matter how
much T4 you take; you won't be able to use it. you'll have hypothyroid symptoms, but your TSH and T4 will be normal.
If you have your T3 tested, which it rarely is in conventional settings, it will be low


Thyroid binding globulin (TBG) is the protein that transports thyroid hormone through the
blood. When thyroid hormone is bound to TBG, it is inactive and unavailable to the
tissues. Elevated TBG is caused by high estrogen levels, which are often often associated with
birth control pills or estrogen replacement. When TBG levels are high, levels of unbound (free) thyroid hormone will be low, With this pattern, TSH and T4 will be normal. If tested, T3 will be low, and T3 uptake and
TBG will be high.


But too much free thyroid hormone in the bloodstream causes the cells to develop
resistance to it. So, even though there's more than enough thyroid hormone, the cells
can't use it and you'll have hypothyroid ? not hyperthyroid ? symptoms. Decreased TBG is caused by high testosterone levels. In women, it is commonly
associated with PCOS and insulin resistance. Reversing insulin resistance and restoring
blood sugar balance is the key to treating this pattern.With this pattern, TSH and T4 will be normal. If tested, T3 will be high, and T3 uptake and
TBG will be low.


In this pattern, both the thyroid and pituitary glands are functioning normally, but the
hormones aren't getting into the cells where they're needed. Note that all lab test markers will be normal in this pattern, because we don't have a way
to test the function of cellular receptors directly.
Thyroid resistance is usually caused by chronic stress and high cortisol levels. It can also
be caused by high homocysteine and genetic factors.

Causes (read more in the Chris Kressser free ebook"Thyroid Disorders"):

-The Gluten-Thyroid Connection

-Iodine for Hypothyroidism: Crucial Nutrient or Harmful Toxin?

-Selenium ? The missing link for treating hypothyroidism?

-Thyroid, Blood Sugar, and Metabolic Syndrome

-The Thyroid-Gut Connection

Replied by Lou R.
(Aransas Pass, Tx)

Thanks so much for all the posts!! My T4 is 2.04, a bit high, T3 is 139, middle, but my TSH is 0.024, very very low, the synthroid 0.088 made me so sick, I'm afraid to take it now. But reading this site has been so helpful. I'm getting almost everything on here to try to help the tsh,, if there's something else you know that could help me I would be very thankful.

Hypothyroid Tests
Posted by Shiehaam (Cape Town) on 06/11/2014

Thyroid: what is the recomended T3 level? Mine is 4.4, my t4 is 10.1 ans s-tsh is 4.27

Replied by Michelle
(Jacksonville, Fl)

Shiehaam, When your blood tests come back from your doctor, then ask for a copy of them. They have the normal ranges printed right there on the paperwork. Also, ask your doctor for a 3rd generation tsh test, instead of a 1st generation one because the 3rd generation test shows results that are much more precise, whereas the 1st generation tsh test is less precise, and only somewhat guesses at what normal is.

Replied by Michelle

Shiehaam, The normal ranges for thyroid tests are printed on the test results. Get a copy of the lab results from your doctor.

Hypothyroid Tests
Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 03/11/2010 509 posts

Since so many questions have come in about figuring out what they have, thought this hypothyroid checklist might come in handy for EC.


However, thinking along the lines that no one ever died from a deficiency of aspirin or any other drug, but they do die from a deficiency of necessary vitamins and minerals (which are usually secondary to our overfed and undernourished American diets). They might just find an answer to what ails them by looking up vitamin and mineral deficiency symptoms.

We were never told much of anything about causes of sluggish thyroids or heart arrhythmias in physiology ( and neither were your doctors) but I learned in a hurry from patients. When I had to cut a patients thyroid medication in half after putting her on Stress Tabs 4 x day, I pulled out my pharmacology book and read that a deficiency of B vitamins caused sluggish thyroid function. Another woman (in her 70's at the time) had her bijeminy heart rate revert to a normal rhythm with the Stress Tabs and throwing out the bleached flour and making her breads with whole grains. I remarked to a psychiatrist that the best nerve pills I knew of was a good stress tab at meal times and bedtime. Her reply was: "Ssh! You'll put us out of business.

Hypothyroidism and Anemia

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Posted by Olivia (Boston, Ma) on 11/26/2011

Hello, I would like to request your input regarding the link between low thyroid and anemia. About one year ago I was diagnosed with iron-deficient anemia and been told by my doctor to take OTC iron supplements, I took it for a couple of months and then stopped. I went back recently for blood work to see if things have improved and not only have there not been any improvements, but my numbers (iron, %saturation and hemoglobin) are actually lower. I also know from the way I feel (tired, depressed, unable to think clearly, shortness of breath, etc.) that things have not improved.

I started searching about anemia and came across some information that discusses the possible link between anemia and low thyroid function. Does anyone have any thoughts or personal experience regarding this? If so, please let me know, I thank you very much in advance. I have been considering taking raw thyroid supplement and liquid iron to see if things get better...

Replied by Dud
(From The Woods Of, Wv, Usa)


Take a food source of iron: black strap molasses, spinach, or.......... choose another one.

Mineral forms of iron are:

1] not absorbable for biological functions

2] highly poison-us

A few years ago, the #1 cause of child-hood deaths was iron supplements. This was when all the AMA doctors were pushing iron supplemnts for anything that was wrong with a female. The children were eating their mothers iron supplemennts and dying. Iron supplemnts were the #1 killer of children in the United States.

They were so poisonous, and the body-mind knew it, that all the women were naturally [un-consciously] stimulated to eat more food to dilute the poison they took. [thus saving their life]. As a result, the main side effect noticed by the women was weight gain, getting fatter.

Replied by Lynn
(Vero, Florida)

Yes, I've been hypo for almost 10 years. I was diagnosed with anemia prior to that. So yes, IMO there is a correlation. But there are so many variables. Who really knows for sure. What helps one may hurt another. I've read on here eating too much raw brocolli could cause thyroid issues. Really?????

Replied by Fatty
(Hong Kong)

My husband has both hypothyroidism and anemia. To be more specific, he's suffering from Hashimoto's hypothyroidism and pernicious anemia. They are both results of autoimmune disorder.

Maybe you should check with your doctor if you are suffering from pernicious anemia. It can only be solved by regular B12 injection.

Replied by Dee

Yes, both my mother and myself have iron deficiency anemia and we both have hypothyroidism too. We are taking tyrosine, selenium, iodine and black strap molasses and it is helping.

Replied by Michelle

Olivia, Get a TSH test from an MD to see if you have thyroid dysfunction. I tried natural hormome, but it didn't work very well, so I take the synthetic. I have never heard of the liquid.

Hypothyroidism and Heredity

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Posted by Diego (Albuquerque, New Mexico) on 11/25/2009

After reading about various "cures" and improvements of thyroid-related conditions through the use of various supplements, I'm left wondering if everyone can achieve these results. My mother had most of her thyroid removed as a teenager and has been on a synthetic replacement ever since. My brother and I have hypothyroidism as well. Can hereditary thyroid issues require someone to be on hormone replacement for life? Am I predisposed to an under-active thyroid gland no matter what supplements I use? Is it a waste of time for me to look for alternative cures?

Replied by Ellen
(Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada)

You might try taking 1 tbspn of coconut oil 5-6 times a day. Try spreading it on toast with a sprinkle of cinnamon. Or cooking with it as long as you get the full amount for the day you should see some excellent progress. Also, the thyroid needs kelp because of the iodine content especially, but the iodine is best absorbed in a natural form such as kelp because it is bound with a balance of many other minerals. This will help heal and regulate your thyroid and keep it operating at its best for the rest of your life if you are consistent in taking it. Take about 2 tsp per day intially and after a week or two lower the amount to 1.5 tsp per day for another week or two and then lower it again to 1 tsp per day. Go by how you are feeling. Try taking it with a freshly squeezed lemon with a glass of water mixed with a few drops of stevia. Stevia is the only natural sweetener that I would recommend taking.

The combination of these recommendations will work if you give them a chance and are consistent.

Replied by Trisha-bo-bisha
(Nashville, Tn)

Hi, I need help! I just got test results back that indicate hypothyroidism. I have my first Dr. appt on Friday morning with an endocrinologist. I need to know what questions I should ask. I don't want to just go in there and take everything she wants to prescribe to me. It's at Vanderbilt Medical, so I know they are good docs, but I'm all about not taking medicine and being natural, so I need to be armed with good information. Any help?!

Replied by Bess
(Calgary, Alberta, Canada)

Hi Trisha-bo-bisha (like the name game! ) - Have you checked out Mary Shomon's Web site (http://thyroid.about.com/)? She has a lot of information for those newly diagnosed (Basic Info/Thyroid 101), as well as those who have been struggling for years. It's a good place to start. Also, you may want to check out your local library - there have been quite a few good books written recently about hypothyroidism. Good luck!

Replied by Craig
(Birmingham, England)

To those people having problems with some of the treatments for hypothyroidism you should really seek the diagnosis from a Professional Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor only. These can give you the specifics for your condition. If you're taking something heating but you have dramatic heat in the body you can cause negative effects. Same as if you have high levels of raising Qi and your eyes are bulging you cannot take foods or herbs which raise the Qi further you want to use the opposite. You'll only find these details out from a good Chinese Doctor.

Thyroid problems are very much tied to the Kidneys and Spleen which drag down the Liver, Lungs and Heart eventually. You need to know your Qi issues overall and with individual organs along with hot/cold problems in organs so you can tackle this correctly and properly. If you want to aid your Kidneys and have a Yin deficiency there then you should take black Sesame seed cooked daily. The Chinese system and diet is the only way to properly address your problems. I've found Chrysanthemum flower excellent for my symptoms which involved a lack of Yang Qi at the Kidney and too much in the Lungs creating breathing problems and hell to be honest. This wonderful flower really helps the heat in the Lungs and excess heat in the Liver which will soon affect the eyes if not dealt with. Again Chinese medicine is the only way to go properly and safely.

Replied by Citygirl27
(Richardson, Tx, USA)

That is really great information. I never understood the serving of chrysanthemum tea at Chinese restaurants (instead of normal chinese green tea) until now. I would love to see a whole section on EC to do with Qi and what we can do to help it.

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