Hepatitis B Treatment and Holistic Cures

Please where to get chanca piedra in Ethiopia. I am hepetitis b positive 9 month back. Please your help.

Hi Alex! You have three good choices with Chanca Piedra, BHT, or a certain form of Vit. C, for clearing from the Hep B virus. It is easier to clear than Hep C. While there is an Hep B innoculation, ostensibly to prevent the disease, it has the clearly unwanted side-effect of potentially causing it, occaisionally, also. Of course, in our country, children are required to get this innoculation to attend high school. Crazy, huh?! Read up on your three good choices, and see where you can find one online, or locally. Helpfully, sometimes grocery stores carry BHT as an additive to preserve oils and prevent rancidity. --T.

Please I have hepatitis B and need your Chanca piedra here in South africa. where can I get one?

I want to get married and I do not want to pass this disease to my wife and kids, please what should I do? Can my girlfriend be vaccinated n our future kids be free? or I should wait and use the Chanca piedra in case I had one from your office before I get married?

I also want to inquire if there is vaccine for this disease.

BHT works, according to quite a few people who have tried it! (Both Hep B and Hep C). --T.

Hi Bebtotz... There is much research that seems to confirm Chanca Piedra's (Phyllanthus niruri) beneficial and healing action against Hep B:

Genus Phyllanthus for chronic hepatitis B virus infection: a systematic review

Observations of the efficacy of Phyllanthus spp. in treating patients with chronic Hepatitis B

Chanca Piedra inhibits the replication of the Hep B virus and also strongly protects the liver by protecting and fortifying the hepatocytes (worker liver cells) by its strong anti-oxidant action. That's why Chanca Piedra has also been found to be quite effective against the herpes virus(HSV-2) for the same reasons as above. Chanca piedra is also currently being researched for its beneficial effects against the AIDS virus. It has also been confirmed by research that Chanca piedra also works, with increased action, synergistically and beneficially for the liver when combined with the Milk Thistle herb.

I use Chanca Piedra regularly (combined together with Tinospora cordifolia -- called Makabuhay in Filipino) as a decoction to strengthen my liver and kidneys. Chanca piedra grows freely all over the lowlands of the Philippines as a weed and looks like this:

Chanca piedra in the Philippines

The docoction or tea form of Chanca Piedra seems to be the best and most active and useful form to supplement. So, if you can learn to make this aqueous decoction yourself by gathering the Chanca piedra in your own area in and around Bacolod City -- you can make it for free and it wont cost you one peso to make the decoction or tea yourself.

Hi am from philippines, my frend has an hepatitis b, is it true that chanca piedra can cure hepatitis b? pls reply if its true.

Hi everyone, I joined the US Navy in January of this year, unfortunately, I was discharged three weeks later due to testing positive for Hepatitis B. I never had any symptoms whatsoever, one of my doctors said that I may have been born with it, the other one said that it may be from piercing (I had my eyebrow pierced in 2008). If so, will CHANCA PIEDRA TEA or OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT TEA completely clear the virus from my system? I really want to go back to the Navy but I still can't since I still have it.

My results from February 22:
Hep B Surf. An = Reactive
Hep BS Ab = Non-reactive; Count = < 3.0 L mIU/mL; Reference Range = 12 - 10,000
Here's my viral count as of June 6, 2012:
Hepatitis B = 170000000 IU/mL; Units = < 20
Hepatitis B = 989000000 copies/mL; Units = < 116

This was from the same test, although it confuses me, how is the other count different from the other? Please help.

We have an olive tree outside my house, and planning to make tea from it, I already started taking Chanca Piedra tea and capsules (since June), Salvia/Ligustrum (on my 6th bottle of 420 tabs) 9 tabs 3x/day (how long should I be on this?), I'm taking Extra Virgin Coconut Oil 1 tbsp. 3x/day, and taking high doses of Vitamin C. Also, I just started on Barley Grass powder, and liquid Chlorophyll (I read that it cleanses the blood). Anymore that I need to do? I never wanted to take pharmaceuticals because I've never believed in them. I never had any symptoms at all, and would have never found out about it had I not join the Navy. Also, I read somewhere, that if the person was born with the virus, the immune system doesn't recognize it as foreign, and thus does not attack the virus, if this is my case, what do I need to do? I desperately need of help, or suggestions. And please, PLEASE, no negative comments because I am willing to do EVERYTHING just to get back in the Navy.

My name is lekan from Nigeria, pls can someone come to my recsue. Pls can someone tell me where I am suppose to get "Seed under leaf" in nigeria. You can email via oomoalhaja1(at)yahoo.com or or via pin:3237E07C. I dearly appreciate this website

Hi Lovely... Chanca Piedra is easy to find in the Cebu lowlands -- I know because I have just returned from Cebu visiting family and I was able to find Chanca Piedra easily for someone who had kidney stone problems. Here is a photo of it:

http://www.stuartxchange.com/SampaSampalukan.html

It is also called Seed-Under-Leaf which is a unique feature of this plant. Chanca Piedra is also anti-viral and is capable of greatly reducing the viral load for Hep B. See the research here:

http://rainforest-database.com/plants/chanca.htm

Chanca Piedra is also currently being researched for its beneficial effects against HIV AIDS and Cancer.

By the way, for all those interested, I've just been reading about the FDA's newest tactic and strategy against the sale of alternative nutrients and remedies on the internet. The FDA are now not even bothering to take offenders to court -- instead, they are simply dictating which alternative remedies and nutrients are to be banished from Google Searches. In obeisance to the FDA's dictat, Google Shopping has just blocked all search listings of vitamins and nutrients in the US. More to come -- just think Codex...

Read about it here:

http://www.naturalnews.com/036862_Google_Shopping_vitamins_censorship.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/036726_Google_Adwords_FDA_censorship.html

Hi my name is lovely. I was diagnosed of HEPA B last april. I just want to ask if where I can buy CHANCA PIEDRA in cebu philippines. Hpoing that you can reply as soon as possible. thank you.

Best as a tea. Drink 8 oz 3 times a day. Make tea very strong. Do this every day for 3 months. Test results should be clear. If not, do another 3 months.

Take multi vitamin with selenium and vitamin D. Everyday. No drinking alcohol. Cut down on fatty foods, corn syrup and grains like rice. Eat more raw veggies.

There is a pubplished medical journal from the 1960's indicating its efficasy from the very doctor who discovered the surface antigens form HBv

Good day to everyone here. I was browsing through and came across this site, am from Nigeria and was diagnosed with Hepatitis late last year, after reading through this post, I want to know if the Chanca piedra can totally cure hepatitis b? if yes, please someone should state the procedures for me. I need an urgent reply. thanks.

Going to try CP for 2 months and see what happens. I'll keep everyone updated. Been a chronic carrier my whole life. I'll see how well or not so well it does.

Hi sir, how really effective is chanca piedra? Is it true that also vitamins e and c cud help and also silymarin? Is there anyone that can attest that he is cured by taking that herb? thanx

Dear Cl-ey from Los Angeles, Thank you for your response. I was able to obtain the dried form of Chanca. I'm not sure if it's benefical if I boiled/steep the plant 3 times before I throw away the Chanca plants and replace it with new ones.

Would you recommend any other supplements from your previous post that I should take with Chanca? Were you able to clear out/seroconverted the Hep B? What is your status on Hep B if you don't mind.

Thanks again.

I was a nurse 25 years, worked without gloves most of the time as we had no access to equipments in Africa then. I went on to study virology to Msc and on starting phD then, I found out I had trace of Hep b. Ever since I believed it has become chronic but still waiting to see Dr. Because I did a blood test two months ago and was stated ag present but they didnt specified. But I know is the Hep b still replicating. Ever since I was diagnosed as having hep B trace I didnt do much with my diet and lifestyle just carried on believing it will one day dissappear. I dont think it did.

My main aim now is to get rid of this Hep b in me by using CAM protocol. I have all the tablets in palce waiting to hear from you before I can start.

I know all the site effects of lamivudine, interferon, viread and others as such dont want to go through that route.

Please advise- will I feel terrible on my first doses? How do I take it accurately. thanks.

Since I first posted this in 09, I see Chanca Piedra more widely available on line and even in some higher end health food stores.

You should have no problem finding this herb online. You can rid HB with this tea. You will have to drink 3 tall glasses every day.

Use honey rather than sugar. Thats what I used and got excellent results. After 3 months see where your viral count is. It will be way better! Continue with the tea and keep your tooth bruch in bleach water after using then throw away after 30 days.

To Closed Eyes from Los Angeles, Ca... I am a carrier of Hep B from childhood, with viral loads of 3 million. My ALT is 50, and AST is 27. I was reading about Chanca Piedra and its possible chance of curing Hep B. I have a question in regards of obtaining Chanca Piedra. Are you consuming the exact from a plant form (how can I obtain this plant?) or can you purchase the manufactured form of it on the internet? What else can you recommend to me?

Hi I'm one of the victum, so I wanna ask about Fig leaf is it works, thanks.

Hi Kaye... I also live in the Philippines and grow my own Chanca piedra and use it for many reasons. I do this because its far better to use unprocessed herbs in the form of decoctions, teas or extracts than to use the heavily processed forms(with additives) sold in the health shops.

Chanca piedra grows widely in the lowlands of the Philippines -- so you can grow it for free. It is a weed that grows everywhere and it's Tagalog name is Sampa-sampalukan. Here are some pictures of it:

http://www.stuartxchange.com/SampaSampalukan.html

The unique identifying feature of this plant is that its flowers and seeds are found along and underneath the main petiole leaf stem -- that's why this plant is also called Seed-Under-Leaf.

See this link for all the many beneifits(incl. for Hep B) and the research on CP:

http://rainforest-database.com/plants/chanca.htm

You can use Chanca piedra against Hep B very effectively on its own. I've read one study where CP was given and in at least 50% of the cases -- the Hep B antigen disappeared completely within 20 days. They followed up on the participants after the research trial for nine mnths and the Hep B antigen did not reappear in any of the Hep B sufferers.

Hepatitis tends to destroy the liver over time. So another protocol -- The Berkson Triple-Anti-oxidant Liver Therapy -- is also useful to help to both defeat the Hep B(and Hep C) virus but, more importantly, this protocol helps -- by its massive anti-oxidant action -- to repair and recover the liver quickly. The Berkson Liver Protocol involves just supplementing Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk Thistle and Selenium every day.

Also be aware that Chanca piedra has many other beneficial effects on the body including -- hypocalcemic(lowers blood calcium), hypolipidemic(lowers blood fat), hypoglycemic(lowers blood sugar), hypotensive(lowers BP).

Hi I'm new here. I was diagnosed with hep b last 2008 and never tried any medications since my doctor just gave me the option to treat myself or not. When I had my screening mg HBsAg w/ Titer (CMIA) shows about 228. 3. 170 and reactive. I read your reviews about chance piedra and curious if it would help me change my hepa status from positive to negative or it would help me eradicate this disease. Where can I buy it here in Cebu? And what's the best brand? Do I need to take any other supplements together with chanca piedra? What's the best thing to do? Thank you

Hi! I'm just new here. Just browse thru some remedies about hep b. I was diagnosed with hep b last 2008 and since then, I didn't try any medications since my doctor gave me the option to take medicines or not. I read about chanca piedra and I was curious. Can you enlighten me if it can be taken alone or do I have to take other supplement together with chanca piedra? Im from cebu, where can I buy it here? Thank you.

Go to the website of traditional chinese medicine in Atlanta. You can order online.

Hi Bill, My idea of using Chanca as an enema is to simulate intravenous injection of same. Because the large intestine will filter out most of the unwanted impurities and deliver the the pure essence directly into the blood stream.

Would this not accelerate the therapeutic effects and render the body free of those nasty little buggers that harrass the liver?

I am taking Chanca orally, but I am seriously considering the enema route.

Yesterday I went for a HBV colony count test and and the antigen test as well. I hope to confound my doctor....

Hi Livercursexlm... I am not quite sure why you want to take chanca piedra as an enema when research has already shown great efficacy against hep b by taking Chanca piedra orally in capsule, tea or decoction form.

Hep b infection occurs in the liver which infects the blood. This human in vivo study by Blumberg et al in 1988 shows the speed with which chanca piedra, when taken orally, can successfully kill the hep b virus:

EFFECT OF PHYLLANTHUS AMARUS ON CHRONIC CARRIERS OF HEPATITIS B VIRUS

In the above study 22 out 37 human chronic Hep B participants lost their Hep B surface antigen within 15-20 days. Some of the subjects were followed up for 9 months and in no case did the Hep B antigen return.

All they did was take Chanca piedra orally on a daily basis. Chanca piedra also has few, if any, side-effects.

This is a question for Ted, but any forum members can answer. Ted, is it advisable to use Chanca Piedra as an enema to speed up the eradication of the Hepatitis B virus from the system? Have you any experience personally or anecdotally? I am considering such a step.

where the F**K can I get this salvia/ligustrum I have been searching and there is nothing! Please tell me!

Thanks All for your honest comment, I just discovered the virus after blood works and an ultra sound show the liver is inflated, the viral load was 250,000 as feb.

I often experience some pain in the stomach area, body itch, and muscle pains and easily fatigued.

I have been on milk thisle, vit c 1000mg, and vit e with daily juice of Carrot, Beetroot, celery, white radish, lemon, cabbage and apple. I exercise regularly.

Its been traumatic, worrisome and burdened with this diagnoses but I'm more than conqueror IJN.

I will like Micheal from Nigeria to contact me on h4bv(at)ymail. com for advice on where I can get CHANCA PIEDRA in Nigeria and maybe we can share more knowledge/approach on defeating this common enemy.

Thanks again for your feedback Bill but I have great news! The pain I have under my right rib for four months was my gallbladder. The Chanca Piedra pushed out one large stone in exactly one week. I just went back to the doctor because the pain is still there. I had bloodwork done and NO VIRUS! I do not have the antibodies as of yet though. So, how long does it take to form anti-hb's? I see many people asking this question here. By the way, the pain is diminishing in my gallbladder because I started taking 3,000 milligrams of Vitamin C daily. I think it is healing me :D Cheers!

Hi Steve11269... BHT will certainly help you to get rid of Hep C. BHT also has the characteristic of being a first class anti-oxidant as well as being capable of killing the Hep C virus as well.

Other remedies for Hep C that seem to work are The Berkson Triple Anti-Oxidant Therapy -- ALA(300 mgs), Selenium(200 mcg) and Milk Thistle(1000 mgs) twice a day at meals. Ted also mentions various other remedies that help to cure Hep C here:

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hep_c_questions.html#Question_2947

In the above link, Ted also mentions various other remedies against Hep C including using his own Lysine remedy as well as a TCM remedy called Pien Tze Huang which is made by Zhan Zhou. But this one is expensive and beware of fakes.

Some more options for you.

Hello, and thank you Bill for all your helpful advice pertaining to hepatitis B remedies. Sorry it took so long to reply.

I have been taking the Salvia/Ligustrum tabs for 2 weeks now. Unfortunately, it not only did not reduce any of my liver inflammation, one of the pills got stuck somewhere in my body. Be careful taking pills! I went into shock last night and I am still recovering. My heart rate hit 200 and tingling was felt throughout all of my limbs. I know it was one of those pills because I felt it when I switched positions in lying down.

Last night the liver inflammation went down, but it's back in full force the next day. I will be going to the doctor to get a DNA test of this virus because it simply won't die. I am convinced the only way for me to rid myself of this hepatic curr, is to try more extreme medicine like BHT or MMS. I have read good reviews on BHT. That will be my next route. The strength of this virus has me concerned :/ Not to mention I am at the 6 month point with this virus :(

Chanca piedra did not convert my serum antigen, but salvia lingustrum did. I took 9 pills 3 times a day for 2.5 months. I had blood work done meanwhile that showed my negative serum antigen. Then I stopped taking it, because I read that it may convert it back. I know that you can take salvia for only 3 months and have a break.

Hello Max, Please I would like you to clear me more on this, those it mean that chanca piedra alone with some immune supplement will clear up the virus. I truly want to be sure what to think and clear up this virus from my system, it is slowing me down I can't get a job because of this.

Ok, I converted my antigen into negative, but now I have to build my antibodies. Has anyone done this? If so then how and what was used? I repeated my tests after two months and nothing has changed. I stopped taking salvia, beacuse it can convert it back to positive. I am afraid that I have to use something else to build antibodies. Any suggestions?

Thank you so much for the information, Chanca piedra is every where here in Nigeria I make a juice of fresh leaf of it and I have been taking it for two months now and still positive of HB. I really need to get salvia-Ligustrum but can't seem to get it in an of the pharmacy stores please some one should tell me where to get salvia-ligustrum in NIGERIA. Thanks

Hi Steve... I feel that I must congratulate you -- your thinking and stragegy against Hep B couldn't be better. It is always much better to use a multi-strategy against a dangerous pathogen like the hep B virurs because, as you so rightly point out, these pathogens are so clever at adapting and hiding.

The best strategy embeds the following principles:

* Herbs that directly attack and remove the virus.

* Supply the body/organ with large amounts of anti-oxidants to help clear the virus/toxins and to also help repair the damaged organ.

* Creating a healthier body terrain and stronger immune system and therefore creating a bad environment for the virus.

The phyllathus plant that you mentioned is Phyllanthus emblica or Emblica officinalis -- Indian Gooseberry. This plant has one of the highest amounts of Vitamin C for any plant -- which is why it is so effective against the hep b virus. Chanca piedra (Phyllanthus niruri) fights hep B in another way. CP prevents the hep B virus from replicating by inhibiting the Reverse Transcriptase enzyme needed by the virus to reproduce. Because CP interferes in such a way, this also means that the hep B virus cannot adjust to CP like they can against antibiotics and other drugs or chemicals. I have also read that Chanca piedra, in trials and when supplemented for just a month, can reduce hep B viral loads to virtually zero. There are no known toxic affects when you supplement CP. The most recent research on CP has found that it acts to protect and fortify the hepatocytes(worker liver cells). CP is currently being researched for use both against HIV AIDS and liver cancer because of its unusual effects on the Reverse Transcriptase enzyme in retroviruses. See the research here.

Other remedies -- such as coconut oil, BHT and plain old aspirin are also effective against Hep B and Hep C. CP also contains salycilic acid(same as aspirin). These methods kill the virus by hydrolyzing its outer cell wall envelope, thus completely de-cloaking the virus for easy removal by the immune system. Using the Berkson Liver Protocol(Alpha Lipoic Acid, Selenium, Milk Thistle with NAC and LDN) will also help to heal the liver more quickly. You should investigate these too -- like you say, you should always use as many effective protocols against dangerous viruses as possible.

You can also find Indian Goose Berry in Indian Ayurvedic remedies like Triphala. Triphala powder is made up of a blend of equal parts Amlaki (Emblica officinalis) Haritaki (Terminalia chebula) and Bibhitaki (Terminalia Belerica). So this herbal mix is very high in protective anti-oxidant content, incuding Vit C.

Chaywanprash is also another very useful Ayurvedic mix. It contains over 40 herbs -- including herbs that help the liver such as CP, Indian Gooseberry and Boerhavia diffusa that specifically help the liver. You should be able to find these herbs in any Indian deli in Thailand. I found them in the Philippines quite easily.

By the way -- Chanca piedra is very common in the tropical Far East. It grows everywhere in my garden as a robust and common weed that has one very distinguishing feature which is how you can recognize it so easily and quickly. CP is also called Seed-Under-Leaf because the flowers and seeds always peculiarly form along and under the main leaf stem. No other plant has this characteristic.

Here is a picture of it.

....Chances are that if you are sitting outside, then Chanca piedra will probably be growing somewhere very close to you right now... Even in Bangkok!!

I just thought I would expand on phyllanthus for anyone suffering from hep b in Thailand. I have been trying to find the Indian gooseberry (Makham Bum) in Thailand to no avail. Thailand does have the star goosberry (Mayum) and I thought I would share my experience. Before I was able to find Chanca Piedra, I tried the star gooseberry. It had the same effect as Chanca Piedra and believe it or not I found myself itching under my right rib after eating them for a few days. Plus no pain. My next goal will be to mix the 2 types of phyllanthus together and perhaps switch off with Salvia/Ligustrum tablets. Anybody know of any side effects? I also started taking coconut oil. Another question I have is how can I boost my immune system with food or supplements? I know Astragalus has been mentioned. I am looking forward to seeing some immunity results. In my overall opinion about hep b...... I believe that even in a chronic state, all hep b can be removed from the host if multiple forms of treatment are enforced. I believe the key is to never focus on only one form of supplementation thus bypassing the adaptability of the virus. By the way, has anyone had any experience with neem? I have read about doctors in India providing a new dialysis technique combining both the amla (gooseberry) and neem together with some astounding results :)

BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

I've had hep b for almost 5 months. Chanca piedra (phyllanthus niruri) was about the only hope I had outside of Lamivudine which I despise because the virus can mutate. Chanca piedra killed the majority of the virus but it does have one side effect that I am careful of. It can lower blood pressure drastically over time. I usually take a spoon of salt for that and no problems. Just thought I would share my experience when making the tea from chanca piedra. I have learned that by letting the mixture sit overnight to cool, it becomes much stronger. I now am in the process of adding a lemon to the mix. I may also crush some star gooseberries and add as well. The star gooseberries are another type of phyllanthus (acidus). I just ordered the Salvia/Ligustrum tablets and hope fully I will be rid of this disease. Thanks to Max from Michigan :)

Thanks you all for sharing this information, I will try to see how I can get the chanca piedra leaves here in nigeria. Thank you all very much for you assistance.

Just noticed about the seed under leaf plant also known as Chanca Piedra and I discovered that its a plant that grows all most everywhere in Africa Nigeria and may be recognize as weed. Just got some now for my use and I hope it will cure my Hepatitis B in Jesus name. I need somebody to say Amen for me...

My HbDNA was always very low, last couple of times, it was undetectable, but was still present. When I noticed that my DNA changes, goes up and down, I started paying more attention what I take and what I eat. First time, when it became undetectable, I was drinking chanca piedra tea. Couple times a day simmered about 15 minutes. I used dried herbs. Later I stopped and DNA went up a little bit. Two months before my tests, I started taking salvia/ligustrum. My doctor did not know what my results meant. I do not know either, I do not know if I am recovering and one day I will become immune to the virus. I am still taking salvia. When I am done, I will go back to chanca piedra. I also take astragalus. This herb raises our own interferon that is in our bodies. Astragalus is to build immunity.

Hi, you are so lucky that you have seroconverted. Can you share your HBVDNA level, Hbsag quantity, e antigen status so that I can have an idea of the regimen. Thanks

Hi, I just converted Hbsag positive to negative. I could not believe it. My viral load was low. But my doctor said the same thing: you cannot do anything with it, just monitor. But I told him that I am going to fight. And I did. I experimented with both chanca piedra and salvia/ligustrum. When I drunk chanca piedra, my viral load went down to undetectable. But I stopped taking it, because I did not know how long I should take. After some time, my results went up a little bit, then I started taking salvia/ligustrum. And yesterday I saw my doctor who told me that my Hbsag is negative. He did not ask me what I am taking, but said that keep doing whatever I am doing. I also started taking Quercenol (a mix of vitamins, minerals and milk thistle). I am still taking salvia and quercenol hoping that I will become immune and my Hbsab will become positive. But salvia can be taken for 3 months and later you need to take a break.

Chanca piedra is better when you make a strong tea.

Hi Vasan, If you go to https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hepatitis-b.html#CP_69915 and look straight under your own post Bill has posted about Hep B and Chanca Piedra. The Ayurvedic herb Amla is also something that may be of help.

I also wonder if BHT would be of help for Hep B as it is for Hep C, maybe Oscar would have some idea. All the best.

As long as the mulitvitamin high levels of vitamin D and selenium - like the GNC brand usually in a box next to their registers, your good.

Hi there, I am new to earth clinic and glad to meet you all. English is not my first language, but I hope you will get my point. I am a chronic hepatitisB healthy carrier, ( recently known accidentally). My lab reports are, Hbsag positive, hbsab negative, hbeag negative, hbeab positive, DNA quantification is 102567 copies per ml.. My doctor said that it is a chronic state and no medicaton is needed except monitoring every 6 months once.

Then my life seems dark and I was scared how my future is going to be.. Little later I started googling alternative things and got hope when I see earth clinic remedies. I read about chanca piedra and decided to use it. My question is that please, anyone tell me that my viral load is too high?? Is it posible to cure completely with chanca piedra? Is it possible to convert hbsag positive to negative?? And also clarify me on what is active carrier and inactive carrier? Is chanca piedra useful for inactive carriers? Thank you...

Ok so I've been taking the chanca piedra capsules. I haven't been drinking it as a tea though :(. What kind of multi vitamin should I be taking along side this. What about maca root- I've heard some things about that. Is there anything specific I should be taking my viral load is really low.

Update:

I have been taking the Salvia Lingustrum with GNC's brand of olive leaf extract for a month now. I find their brand was the most effective olive leaf out of the many brands I have taken over the years. I now have no pain regardless of what I eat as some foods would cause some pain when passing through the liver. I can lay on my side again unlike just a month ago. I started taking them both for something totally unrelated, a sever tooth ache.

A filling came out a month ago which by the way, is good since it was amalgam. Around that time, that tooth was causing severe pain all over my right jaw and face! I am trying to avoid getting a root canal after reading the dangers in health associated with them.

Olive leaf extract worked well in the past with a toothache. I decided to combine it this time with the Ligusrtom formula and it worked within hours!! It works so well. I have been to a dentist and they gave me a prescription for antibiotics which I have not gotten filled as the infection is gone, so long as I keep taking these herbs. IT starts to come back after a day if I go too long without taking it- like 8 hours or more. I will take the antibiotics if this is not completely healed in another week or so.

I have been taking 8 Salvia/Ligustrum with 2 olive leafe, 3 times a day. Also included is about 8,000 IU of Vitamin D and one daily vitamin I take this time a year/flue season to avoid getting the flu.

I will continue with this through the end of February. After that point, I will go for another round of tests and post the results here.

I failed to mention a side effect when taking this amount, this frequently, on a daily basis. It increases libido.

Hi Bill,

Thank you very much for your comment, my doctor told me to stop taking lamevdine 2 weeks ago. And about adjustment I will do that. I have to order online so it gone two weeks before I get anything.

Thanks again for comment.

Hi Majid... Although your herbal regimen against Hep B is a good one, I think it needs clarifying.

You are already using Chanca Piedra as well as Milk Thistle and Selenium which is great. But you would stand a much better chance against Hep B if you also took Alpha Lipoic Acid, Acetyl Cysteine and low dose naltrexone(LDN) every day as well. See this article about how a child was cured of Hep B using this therapy.

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1265528

The proper nutrients and dosages you should be taking for this CAM therapy are:

Milk Thistle -- 1000 mgs at meal times twice a day

Selenium -- 200 mcg twice a day at mealtimes

Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day at mealtimes.

Acetyl Cysteine -- 200 mgs twice a day at meals.

LDN -- one 3 mg tablet taken with water at 9:00 pm at night just before bed.

The nutrients act in the following way:

Chanca Piedra -- inhibits the HBV Reverse transcriptase virus stopping its reproductive capability.

CAM therapy -- Kills the virus and repairs the liver by antioxidant action.

LDN -- Increases endorphin levels which doubles or triples the white blood cell count in the body. It also seems to fix any auto-immune signalling problems between the immune system and the anti-bodies which attack the liver. Thus the anti-bodies revert to normal immune behaviour.

This herbal therapy will not only kill the HBV virus -- it also helps to repair the liver damage bacause it greatly raises the Glutathione levels in the liver. This helps to fight the virus, detox and repair the liver as well.

Unfortunately taking Viread as well as Lamivudine will not help you that much. Lamuvidine can damage the liver as well as raise viral levels when used with other anti-virals. Type "lamivudine warnings" in Google search to find out about this. It is also quite difficult to come off Lamivudine but this is up to you.

Hi everyone. over 8 years ago I diagnosed with chronic HBV, and I was taking Lamovadine since, until last year I found out my body do not respond to that anymore so I started VIREAD as well.

And now after 8 years of medicine nothing changed . I am sick and tired of this, for last result decide to take alternative medicine as followed :

18/OCT/2011 : I STARTED CHANCA PIEDRA TEA TWO TO THREE TIMES A DAY
10/NOV/2011 : I ADD THE Following:

A) MULTI VITAMIN 1 DAILY
B) LIVER DETOXIFY 1X3 DAILY
C) MILK THISTLE 150mg 1X3 DAILY
D) SELENIUM 200mg 1x3 DAILY
E) ST JOHNS WORT 300mg 1X3 DAILY
F) Salvia-Ligustrum 2X3 DAILY

I will post my blood result in 2 months. I have no idea how it's gone help, but I am taking them along with my normal medicine.

I will appreciate any comment.

thank you all

Thank you for your reply. I never had liver pain until I had a Hep A vaccination. Thats when everything started. The hep B had been there unknowingly for a long time with never a symptom. It was literally the next day after the shot when the pain started.

I don't think this will be permanent. My liver is completely healthy with a very small viral count and no damage or visible signs of HepB according to the doctors I have seen over the last 2 years over at UCLA.

I just got finished eating the watermelon : ) I read it was best to eat it before bed for the liver. I started a few days ago and noticed a big difference. I can lay on my side again but just for five min or so which still is a significant improvement from when I wrote the post.

I'm very sorry to hear about your condition. I have read so many stories about how people who were disabled or in need of a transplant, turn themselves around with dietary changes, life style changes and a variety of herbal/amino acids. Hope a turnaround is in store for you soon!

A wise woman once said to me: "I find that nothing will get past the doors of our minds we keep closed - or in other words, remain open and that anything is possible"

That's how I lowered the viral load from Millions to hundreds!

Good luck to you!

Closedeyelidso, thanx for your Liver post! If I might reply, it appears something is depleting your glutathione enzyme. Avocato, being one of the riches preformed glutathione foods (next to Asparagus), is obviously giving that boost. The watermelon supports the already taxed kidneys. Since your conditions seems sorta permanent, it seems you might need to do a whole house and whole body detox.

Also, in my own case, I too was using diet/nutrition and alternative cleansing for liver health w/ marginal releif. Then I found out about Milk Thistle Seed. MTS immediately stabilized my liver, but it appears a little too late as I soon became completely disabled. Supplimental NAC is also an excelent Glutathione booster. Another food highly recomended by naturalpaths is Broccoli Sprout Extract as it boost both phases of Liver P-450 enzymes. Good luck on your health journey.

Hi everyone,

Here is an update on liver health I have personally found effective in the last few months.

Without any explanation from my doctors or evident on nay measurable tests, I still have liver pain. According to all prior tests, liver enzymes are low(normal range), I am healthy and there is not liver damage. I also cannot sleep on my right side like I could earlier in the month when eating the below mentioned foods. Measurable dna/rna remains extremely low although I am due for tests in the next month or two. FYI, I am not taking any supplements with the exception of a daily multivitamin and a separate vitamin D 1000 IU capsule. GNC MeggaMens formula is perfect as its selenium and vitamin D levels have recently (in the last 2 years) been increased as science continues to support medical reports of liver and immune health with high daily doses of each in recent findings.

After reading how beneficial watermelon and avocados are to the liver, I decided to incorporate them in to my daily diet. For the first time with out taking a supplement, the liver pain went away on its own! I ate one avocado a day and a plate full of watermellon a day, sometimes twice a day.

I recommend googling "watermelon liver health "and "Avocado liver protector" to read just how beneficial they both are. Usually with the articles are listed the scientific published medical journals that have researched the benefits, explain the why it does what it does and the substances isolated in the foods promoting the positive results.

Also extremely important is what I stopped eating. I reduced my intake of grains such as pasta, rice and breads. I also reduced my meat intake. I increased my raw vegetable intake like tons of spinach or other dark green leafy salads. Do not eat any foods containing canola oil. Read all about what canola oil is made from and how the plant seed, rape-seed is legally classified as an insecticide and how processing of this oil when heating, makes it less friendly to the body by sucking up vitamin e levels in the body.

If one grows tired of eating a lot of watermelon, you can juice it as well. I just got a juicer and juice it with a half of a whole lemon, peel and all. Lemon is also good at cleaning the liver!

It was amazing! To feel great and no liver pain without taking anything was awesome!

Today, I am not too proud to say, I fell off of that great diet and the liver pain returned. I recently have been eating salads again, making fresh carrot/apple/half a lemon juice but not eating any watermelon at all. I think the difference is the lack of watermelon. I'm going to buy one today and cut it up in peaces to eat over the next 5 days. Watermelon contains a potent amino acid extremely beneficial to the liver that aids in the removal of ammonia in the blood.

Just to be clear, a half a watermelon should be consumed in less than 2.5 days. That's how much one should eat or juice. The only downside for me in eating all that watermelon was peeing more frequently!

Be sure if you try the daily avocado, watermelon with the reduction of grains and meats, increased raw veggies let us know if you feel a difference.

Hauwa CHANCA PIEDRA is everywhere in Nigeria, u can recognise it as weed if u have the picture

Close Eyelids Poen from Los Angeles, Ca

thankyou so much for your reply I will start putting the capsules in the tea to see if that helps as ive been just taking them in pill form. Also do you have any recommendations for a multi-vitamin? am I looking for like a womens one a day? And should I just eat shitake mushrooms or take a supplement and what kind of anti viral foods should I be eating? Thank you so very much

Mamac fromShermanOaks

The best start in my opinion is to feed the 4 year old good food. There are also anti-virals foods such as coconut milk and shitake & Maitake mushrooms. These foods have been shown to lower HB viral loads. The chanca piedra tea would then be my other recommendation. I cant recommend the Salvia Lingustrum for kids as I don't know ratio portions for kids and what is appropriate. Also, ensure the child is taking daily vitamins. That make a difference also. Not directly but ensure all the necessary nutrients are present for a growing child.

Jamila728 fromRochester, Ny

Wow considers yourself lucky with such a small VL. Drinking Chanca Piedra tea every day, made strong 3 times a day for 4 months and according to a report from a well Know Doctor Bloomburge in the 60's and you have a high change of "Clearing the virus" from the chronic state. I recommend on shitakii mushroom daily too to increase the changes of clearing HB.

Also if you bought the rain-tree capsules, the best way to really get the most out of them is to take one capsule and pour it into scalding hot water, let it sit for 5 min and drink all of it like a tea. You pull more of the active substance out into the water which makes its way into the bloodstream waay more than swallowing the dry pill.

Do this 3 times a day. That will make your bottle last much longer and you will get more Chanka Piedra internally. Do include anti-viral foods in your regimin and a daily vitamin with high levels of Vitamin D. People with liver issues like HB tend to convert less cholesterol in the liver and skin into vitamin D.

Hi Jamila728... Chanca Piedra is one of the finest all-round herbs out there. It quickly reduces blood calcium levels, is a liver/kidney protective, reduces blood acidity, reduces high blood, reduces blood sugar, is an anti-inflammatory, reduces pain and is a strong anti-viral. Here is the full spec, with all the research, of exacty how useful Chanca Piedra is as a herb:

http://www.rain-tree.com/chanca.htm

Chanca Pidra(CP) is also more well-known as a successful anti-viral against Hep B. CP stops the Hep B virus by interferring with the Reverse Transcriptase enzyme during the Hep B virus's reproduction stage. So CP actually stops the Hep B virus reproducing itself.

Chanca Piedra is also currenty being researched for it's beneficial effects against HIV AIDs and Cancer.

CP is also completely safe to take in large doses -- no side-effects have ever been recorded even at large dosages. However, since CP is also a mild diuretic, it might be advisable to supplement with fulvic acid drops or sea salt or a good mineral supplement as well -- if the CP is taken for a long period.

If you have the CP capsules, then take at least 1000 mgs two or three times a day at mealtimes.

I would also optionally use the following protocol to further protect your liver:

Taken at mealtimes

Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day(lunch and dinner)

Selenium -- 200 mcgs twice a day

Milk Thistle -- 1000 mgs twice a day

This simple protocol works to significantly increase Gutathione levels in the liver to help to fight the Hep C virus, remove toxins and to help raise up and strengthen your immune system to proper levels.

Closed Eyes from LA: I just purchased chanca piedra in capsule form from raintree nutrition do you believe that is as affective as the tea? I notice alot of people use it for hep c and you are one of the few I have seen that use it for hep b. I dont want to listen to my dr anymore and there oh dont worry about it attitude. Im ready to take charge and find a way to become healthier than I already am. Any input I'm grateful for. Thankyou

Hi I have hepatitis b how long ive had it im unsure but I found out 2 1/2 years ago when I was pregnant. My viral load isnt that high about 5800 but its risen from about 2500. My doctor doesnt seemed worried about it at all just telling me to come in every 6 months to monitor it. I dont like this and believe that western medicine is all about pharmacueticals(?). I want to start taking care of myself before its too late can someone help me with herbs and things

Closed Eyes from Los Angeles,

Thank you for your post. Did you see a holistic/ ayurvedic doctor in Los Angeles? I have a small boy with chronic Hep B, (from his birth mother) and I am not sure of the correct dosages. He is only 4.

Thank you all so much for sharing your information.

Merejem from La Union, you are going to be fine! You are going to live a long healthy life. Just taking the Chanca Piedra alone made my VL drop from over 10 Million down to 300 thousand in 2 months. I made it very strong and drank it 3 or 4 times a day. The Salvia/Lungustrum works too! Its easier to take as you can pop 4 pills, 4 times a day. I mostly use this now as I have grown tired of drinking so much tea! BUT the tea worked the most dramatic and with the fastest results! Selenium is also Very important as the HBV has a gene that is the same as humans in that it takes the enzyme your liver makes out of selenium to thrive in your liver, depleting you of selenium livers and glutathione levels. This is the reason why we are so tired or in a mind fog sometimes. I have read selenium alone reduced viral loads. Like I mentioned above it MUST be the natural plant based Selenium and NOT chilated selenomethionine!!!! The most I have ever taken was 800 micro grams a day (one pill=200 micrograms, four times a day). I cant stress this enough STAY AWAY FROM selenomethionine! Reading the back of the bottle, it should say high yeast selenium. Sometimes it just says food based Selenium. The High yeast, food based selenium is less commonly sold so be sure you go to a healthfood store and ask for the food form, usually sold as high yeast selenium.

Eating anti viral foods like shitake mushrooms and cooking with extra virgin coconut oil will make an impact as well. Vitamins are important to minimize oxidation stress on your body especially your liver. Most important is vitamin D. With liver disease comes vitamin D deficiency. Be sure you are getting higher levels of Vitamin D. The best way is sun exposure. If medical research suggests that with pharmaceutical drugs, elimination of HBV is possible, why not with natural substances as I mentioned above.

My last VL count was 253 in August. Can you believe it! My doctor did not know what to say. He originally said to stay away from alternative things as "they just don't work" and "that stuff is not regulated and who know what you are getting" I'm glad I did not listen. I tried to post this data at medhelp but everyone was so big pharma and anti herbal they chased me out of their forum. IF you have success with any of the above, you must post it places like this to help others. Pass on your good fourtune to help someone else heal rhemselves and eliminate the fear that comes along with HB. I have a feeling it will be 0! I'll update here! Sorry it took so long to comeback here!

I was a hep b patient before I graduated in college as an engineer. Found out that im a hep b healthy carrier. But I cant go work abroad since I have hep b- I insist I am a healthy carrier but the doctor in clinic says it might turn to active stage. My world seems to go in black and my heart likes to burst. Why me, why does this kind of illness. Many questions still running on my mind even its 9 years ago. My doctor told me before I can only live for 20 years span. And im lucky if I can reach that 20 years. I panicked, I cant sleep, I cant eat as well. But I still continued life, now im still not cured. I'll try this herbal. I used to cut them of my house at povince at la union before, not knowing this herb might help me. Thanks for this comments that ive just read.. I'll try and plant some again im my vicinity. ''Phyllanthus niruri or Chanca Piedra''.. Life goes on and don't lose hope.. Our body might be affected but our heart and spirit to live a normal life must be on top of us.. Live without fear just visit your doctor twice a year after you take this plant.. Good luck to us friend out there. GOD STILL KNOWS BEST FOR US....

How can I get your hepatitis B remedy in Nigeria?

Hey there, Curious on your current viral load. Do you think Chanca alone can help. I have taken salvia alone before and my load dropped from 10K to 2K in 6 months.

Closed Eyes from LA, I would like to thank you for your very informative letter. I would like more info on all of the doses of EVCO, salvia, ligustrum and so on. I hate living with Hep B and have remained single for 3 years because I am embarrassed to share my virus with them. This is the first time I have ever responded to comments, but I believe you are on to something.I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you...ycats

1-4-09 Viral Load 10,250,000 (million!)
I started taking Chanca Piedra 1-24-09

3-16-09 325,000 (hundred thousand). I think this helped but to be fair, I had a Hep A vaccine that caused alot of pain during this time and I wonder if for me, that vaccine stirred the pot and activated a positive immune response against Hep B. IF not then it was the Chanca Piedra

4-23-09 My viral load was 410,000 (hundred thousand)
This was done in another lab and I have ready there can be variance of 80K with the same blood from lab to lab. I also started taking extra virgin coconut oil with Chinese herbs, Salvia/Ligustrum formula (names of the predominate Chinese herbs) at this time.

2-2-10 I decided it was war against Hep B in May of 2009 and did so much research and added the following to the Salvia/Ligustram-Seven Forest, Raw coconut oil capsules:

Plant based selenium 250 mg 3 times a day (Selenomax) I DO NOT recommend the chemical non-yeast form. It hurt my liver really bad. Stick to the plant based as long as your body can handle yeast

One Multi vitamin 3 times a day.
Alpha Lipoic Acid 200 mg 2 times sometimes 3 a day
1 St. Johns wart 500mg capsule at bed time
3 L-Orenthine capsules at bed time
Glutathone with milk thistle 2 times a day
Green tea a few cups a day or every other day.

Every other moth I do a Parasite cleanse using:
2 droppers full of (Green) Black Walnut, Wormwood and Red Clove AND freshly brewed strong Chanca Piedra tea (25% of the bottle was tea) for 2 weeks and the 5th day of each week take an enema of the same amount in 16.9 ounces of water (average size small water bottle) and hold it as long as you can! I was ridicules and held it over night until the coline absorbed the water. I cant recommend that part but I had to state it since I did do it.

Dr. Hulda Clarks theory is that parasites can also be virus factories.

I am almost CURED of chronic Heb B. 10,250,000 to 1,200 in a year!

I must say this should work for other viruses such as HIV and Hep C. Hep B is 50 times more virulent of a virus than HIV according to much research I have read. If any one has any questions, please feel free to ask. I'm no doctor but am some one who cares and believes with proof this works!

Do a search on line. There as a place located in San Diego that I buy from but this site does not allow for names. For me the tea sweated with honey worked. Also plant based selenium, alpha lipoic acid and milk thistle. Make sure to take a general multivitamin too.

All of the above mentioned items WILL lower the viral load!

Hi I had read your claim regarding CHANCA PIEDRA, I also made some research, thou not totally proven yet I believed that this will help my friend... my question is where can I get this herb..

Ayurvedic Cure for Hepatitis

Hi everyone...There is an Indian plant called Bhumya Malaki -- also known as "StoneBreaker" or "Seed Under Leaf" or Chanca Piedra -- that grows as a weed in the tropics. This is widely used in Indian herbal medicine and is, at present, the only cure for Hepatitis B that is proven by research -- Evidence here on use, efficacy, safety, contraindications and research:

http://www.rain-tree.com/chanca.htm

http://www.herbalcureindia.com/herbs/bhumyamalaki.htm

This herb grows as a weed in my compound in the Philippines where I live and is a most useful herb for a host of problems, good for almost any illness and I use it all the time myself. It is also a harmless herb, with no recorded side-effects.

If you can, visit an Ayurvedic herbalist, and I can almost guarantee that he or she will prescribe this herb amongst others for Hepatitis.

To be effective against Hepatitis, an aqueous decoction(herb boiled gently in water) must be made. A tincture is not so good. My method is to take one or two small plants, cut them up, bash them to lightly bruise it and open it up, throw all this into a pot, add 2 litres of water and boil this down gently to 1 ltre, cool, strain and then pour into a container and store in the fridge. I pour out a third of a glass of this decoction twice a day, add a little orange juice(decoction is very bitter) plus a little more water and down it in one.

Chanca Piedra or Bhumya malaki acts directly on the Hepatitis B virus by preventing reproduction, with virtually complete disappearance of the H-B antigen within a month of using this protocol.

Phyllanthus niruri or Chanca Piedra is a plant with a unique feature -- it isn't called "Seed-Under-Leaf" for nothing and may be identified as a small plant that grows 30-40 cms high and eventually forms small seeds all along the leaf stems. Here are some useful pictures of the plant:

http://www.chirinka.com/catalog/images/phyllanthusniruri.jpg

http://anthrome.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/stonebreaker.jpg