Hepatitis B Treatment and Holistic Cures

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Posted by Tara09 (Ahmedabad, Gujrat, India) on 02/19/2013

hepatitis b: hi I have just done my test on 13/02/13 and I got hbsag +
Then doctor asked me to do further tests and they are
hbeag - non reactive
hbv viral load -101 IU/ml
anti hbc Igm - 0.08 negative
anti HBe - 0.14 (positive)

my doc has to say that I am having chronic hepatitis b with inactive virus and no treatment needed. but I cannot get rid of virus anytime and can't become Hbsag negative. please guide me with the same... Is there any chances???

Replied by Akanni
Ogun, Nigeria

To jamaal2013 plz, I need ur help asaap, I am positive wit HB, can u pl add me up on facebook (@Rooneeey) and I need the yoruba name of chanca piedra leaf or how do I get it here in Lagos. Will like to have a chat with you. Is there anybody that know the name of the chanca piedra leaf in yoruba or were to see it in Lagos. Thanks

Replied by Paul
Lagos, Nigeria

The Yoruba name for Chanca Piedra is EYIN OLOBE. You could get this from any ELEWE OMO in Lagos.

Replied by Akinl
Lagos, Nigeria

Chanca Piedra is everywhere in Lagos, try Oyingbo market you probably will get it there the other name for the plant is SEED UNDER LEAF my part of Yoruba calls it EYIN OLUBI (do-do-re-re-re)

Has anybody read or used quails egg for hepatitis and liver health? I need enlightenment about it.

Posted by Livercursexlm (St John's, Newfoundland, Canada) on 11/13/2012

Ted/Bill or anyone knowledgeable, If one is taking Salvia for hep B, is it advisable at the same time to be drinking chanca piedra tea? thanks in advance.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines

Hi Livercursexlm... Salvia is a much used Chinese herb which is a strong anti-viral. I see no reason why you shouldn't use chanca piedra with salvia, since several people attest to its efficacy when used together with chanca piedra against Hep B.

From the EC archives:

Max from Commerce Township, Michigan replies: "Hi, I just converted Hbsag positive to negative. I could not believe it. My viral load was low. But my doctor said the same thing: you cannot do anything with it, just monitor. But I told him that I am going to fight. And I did. I experimented with both chanca piedra and salvia/ligustrum. When I drunk chanca piedra, my viral load went down to undetectable. But I stopped taking it, because I did not know how long I should take. After some time, my results went up a little bit, then I started taking salvia/ligustrum. And yesterday I saw my doctor who told me that my Hbsag is negative. He did not ask me what I am taking, but said that keep doing whatever I am doing. I also started taking Quercenol (a mix of vitamins, minerals and milk thistle). I am still taking salvia and quercenol hoping that I will become immune and my Hbsab will become positive. But salvia can be taken for 3 months and later you need to take a break.

Chanca piedra is better when you make a strong tea."

Source: http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hepatitis-b.html

There are also other examples of people using salvia with chanca piedra on the above page link.

Replied by Henry
South Africa

Where can I get salvia in south africa or online..

Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Michigan) on 11/12/2012

This question is for Bill. Please answer my quetion. I tried to find info on Internet, but Wikipedia was really confusing.

Can hep b virus come back after clearing HBsAg? My doctor was not sure about it or he wanted to scare me. My test results are:

HBsAg -negative, Hepatitis B Ab - 628.1, H Be Ab -positive, Hep Be Ag - negative, HBV DNA Qnt PCR

Replied by James

Hello max, congratulations! How long did you have hep b for?

Replied by Max
Commerce Township, Michigan

Hi James. I do not know how long I had it. I found out when I was pregnant with my first child eight years ago. I never had any symptoms.

Replied by Ricoh
Manila, Philippines

Thank you very very much for your reply Bill, I really appreciate it. is there a Quiapo Market in Quezon City?? isn't it located in Quiapo Manila?? Anyway, I have another question. are there any supplements which contains most of the important vitamins and minerals that you mentioned like alpha liphoic, selenium etc etc coz it would be very expensive to buy those supplements one by one. how about usana supplements?? it says that it has some of the most important minerals like alpha lipoic and many more but its selenium is not food based just like the one you recommend.

Also I would like to ask if its safe for a person with hepatitis b to take fresh cayenne pepper because I've been taking it for more than a week now, 3x a day after meals because I've heard that it's good for the heart and will unclog blocked arteries. even though I don't have any symptoms of heart problems yet, I decided to take cayenne for prevention since almost all of my grandparents, uncle, relatives died from heart problems & stroke. if you have spare time please text me at my cel. no. 09106630286.

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Posted by F Ahmad (Delhi, Bihar, India) on 05/05/2013

Dear ALL, Thanks Every one help each other through this website. Any One has cured HBsAG positive to Negative please update?

Name of Treatment (Herbal, Ayurveda, Homeopath, Allopath), Name of medicine used to cured, duration and other full detalis.

Hope to listen

F Ahmad, Delhi

Replied by Oscar
Syracuse, New York

BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] worked for me for hepatitis B and C. I used a dosage of 250mg of BHT twice a day with a gulp of distilled water on an empty stomach twice a day....Oscar

Replied by Venugopal
Durg, India
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I am suffering from HBsAg as I was detected for this virus in 2000 but I have no symptons and as such I married and have 2 children but neither of them till date have no such infections. Mine as per my doctor is reactive is there any way it can be made non reactive. Thanks.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando

Hi Venugopal...You should be able to get rid of the HBsAg using the Chanca piedra herb in a tea or decoction. It acts as an anti-viral that directly inhibits the reproduction of HBV.

This plant commonly grows all over India so you should be able to purchase the Chanca piedra tea or powder from any Ayurvedic doctor. Chanca piedra(CP) is called bhumy-amalaki in India. This remedy is cheap and effective. See the research here:

Chanca Piedra Research

I also use CP tea to keep my blood sugar, blood fat and blood pressure at healthier lower levels. A simple CP tea(drunk 3 times a day) will also dissolve and eradicate any gallstones and kidney stones in your body and it will also act as a protective for the kidneys and liver.

Replied by Jingle

Hi Bill,

I have read a few posts from you about Chanca Piedra. Want to ask you a few questions:

My liver panel was abnormal about one year ago and had high DNA, but after 2~3 months, the liver panel(ALT, AST and etc) all changed to normal, and DNA decreased to <500; but I didn't monitor them for about year, so in this Jan, I had a test and ALT/AST are mild elevated, but DNA is about 10^7. Following my doctor's words, I just started to take baraclude a few days ago; and the doctor said I will be on the medication for the rest of life. kind of scared...

Say you and a few ppl here cleaned up the virus, so wonder if I can still take Chanca Piedra and Salvia Ligustrum, while I'm taking baraclude at the same time? or I have to stop baraclude?

Meanwhile I'm taking lots of Vitamin C, and some milk thistle and selenium and tumaric and Vitamin B. Are they safe to take? also is Vitamin E safe? Thanks a lot!

Replied by Bill
San Fernando

Hi Jingle...Chanca piedra is a well-known anti-viral against Hep B and jaundice and is also beneficial against kidney stones and gallstones. I have even read a piece of research where chanca piedra had a high cure rate -- and these people were cured very quickly with Hep B virus levels near zero.

"Two human studies reported chanca piedra's liver protective and detoxifying actions in children with hepatitis and jaundice. Indian researchers reported that chanca piedra was an effective single drug in the treatment of jaundice in children, and British researchers reported that children treated with a chanca piedra extract for acute hepatitis had liver function return to normal within five days. Researchers in China also reported liver protective actions when chanca piedra was given to adults with chronic hepatitis."

Source: Raintree Herbal Databse

Chanca piedra also appears to be effective against liver cancer:

"A 2000 study even documented that chanca piedra increased the life span of mice with liver cancer from thirty-tree weeks (control group without treatment) to fifty-two weeks. Another research group tried to induce liver cancer in mice that had been pre-treated with a water extract of chanca piedra. Their results indicated the chanca piedra extract dose-dependently lowered tumor incidence, levels of carcinogen-metabolizing enzymes, levels of liver cancer markers, and liver injury markers. Both studies indicate that the plant has a better ability to prevent and slow down the growth of tumors rather than a direct toxic effect or ability to kill cancer cells."

Source: Raintree Herbal Databse

Baraclude is commonly used as an anti-viral against Hep B. But this drug does have some significant side effects -- see here. I also think that going to your doctor and asking him or her about whether you should take chanca piedra would be a wasted and costly exercise. Why should a doctor -- who is completely untrained in the use of herbs -- know anything about chanca piedra? So I'm afraid the decision as to how to use the Chanca piedra lies with you alone. Perhaps you can find a knowledgeable naturopath who can help to monitor your progress. The other thing you could perhaps do is start taking the chanca piedra at low dose to see its effects. If these effects are positive, with a reduction in viral load, then you could start to lower the baraclude dosage while increasing the chanca piedra dosage at the same time.

The easiest way to take chanca piedra is as a tea or decoction. Take chanca piedra tea three or four times a day outside mealtimes. Lastly and most importantly, whenever you buy herbs you should always buy the highest quality organic herbs which have minimal have heat or chemical processing involvement. The raw powdered form of organic chanca piedra is best with the most efficacy.

Chanca piedra also has no known side-effects.

As a matter of fact, over the past week or so I've been drinking a strong chanca piedra decoction to help reduce high blood pressure, reduce blood fats, reduce blood sugar, reduce excess blood calcium and to also help reduce high blood pressure. I do this periodically because my diet is certainly not perfect. I simply refer to this as taking out the trash -- all about preventative maintenance.

Replied by Jingle

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the quick and thorough answers. That helps a lot!

So it is safe to take chanca piedra and baraclude at the same time? and will the two interfere with each other? If taking both, how can I tell which one is contributing the decrease of viral load - chanca piedra or baraclude?

Can the chanca piedra eventually clean up all the viral load and change HBsAg to negative?

Also you mentioned to take a low dose of chanca piedra, how many times should I take a day ? still 3 ~ 4 times a day, and one cup a time? how long should I take chanca piedra? Can I take the tea forever if there is no side-effect? I think you or somebody also took Salvia Ligustrum to change the HBsAg to negative? If so, should I introduce Salvia at some point?

In US, where can I get the high quality organic chanca piedra tea? Is Whole Foods a good place to go?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Replied by Bill
San Fernando

Hi Jingle...As I've said, baraclude is a medicine with significant side effects. From the Baraclude website here are the reported side-effects of baraclude over the long term:

Baraclude can cause serious side effects including:

  • Lactic acidosis (buildup of acid in the blood). Some people who have taken BARACLUDE or medicines like BARACLUDE have developed a serious condition called lactic acidosis. Lactic acidosis is a serious medical emergency that can cause death and must be treated in the hospital. Reports of lactic acidosis with BARACLUDE generally involved patients who were seriously ill due to their liver disease or other medical condition.Call your healthcare provider right away if you: feel very weak or tired; have unusual (not normal) muscle pain; have trouble breathing; have stomach pain with nausea and vomiting; feel cold (especially in your arms and legs); feel dizzy or light-headed; have a fast or irregular heartbeat.
  • Serious liver problems. Some people who have taken medicines like BARACLUDE have developed serious liver problems called hepatotoxicity, with liver enlargement (hepatomegaly) and fat in the liver (steatosis). Hepatomegaly with steatosis is a serious medical emergency that can cause death. Call your healthcare provider right away if: your skin or the white part of your eyes turns yellow (jaundice); your urine turns dark; your bowel movements (stools) turn light in color; you don't feel like eating food for several days or longer; you feel sick to your stomach (nausea); you have lower stomach pain
  • If you are female, very overweight, or have been taking nucleoside analogue medicines, like BARACLUDE for a long time, you may be more likely to get lactic acidosis or serious liver problems.

Source: http://www.baraclude.com/index.aspx#indication

I'm just hammering the point that I think Baraclude is a particularly dangerous medicine because it can cause body acidosis and is so obviously toxic for the liver and can even cause jaundice/cirrhosis over the longer term.

However, from the research, Chanca piedra has no known overdose limit and no known side-effects for the body over the short or longterm.

So it is safe to take chanca piedra and baraclude at the same time?

From the evidence above, common sense would seem to suggest that chanca piedra is the safer one to take for your condition. If you take baraclude at the same time as chanca piedra, then baraclude will act to weaken the body(acidosis) and weaken the liver(causing jaundice) while, at the same time, the chanca piedra(no side-effects) is trying to defeat the Hep B in order to heal the liver. Simply put, baraclude seems to work against the liver healing and Hep B killing effects of chanca piedra. So if it were me, I would just take only the chanca piedra every day and monitor my viral count and progress on a monthly or tri-monthly basis with the doctor as normal.

Can the chanca piedra eventually clean up all the viral load and change HBsAg to negative?

Yes, chanca piedra can cure Hep B. On the other hand, baraclude is only recommended to lower viral load. Modern medicine has no consistent cure for Hep B.

Also you mentioned to take a low dose of chanca piedra, how many times should I take a day ?

If you're start taking chanca piedra on its own everyday then you should work up to a maximum of four cups of tea a day taken outside mealtimes.

how long should I take chanca piedra?

You can take chanca piedra tea as long as you like. Until you are cured.

I think you or somebody also took Salvia Ligustrum to change the HBsAg to negative? If so, should I introduce Salvia at some point?

You can take Salvia ligustrum with chanca piedra if you wish. But a good organic form of chanca piedra powder should be able to kill off the Hep B virus on its own in my opinion.

You should be able to buy wildcrafted organic chanca piedra online at Amazon or Ebay. I get my own supply of organic chanca piedra from my garden in the Philippines and prepare the herb myself.

Replied by Jingle

yeah, the reason why it's hard to decide what to do, is I just started the baraclude, and am scared of stopping baraclude now because of the high DNA viral load...As you said, it's OK to take both of them at the same time earlier? but now seems the two things might interfere... any further explanation will be appreciated..

Replied by Hbsagcuredd

Mind you the treatment was not easy. It includes strict self - discipline especially when it comes to foods. Avoid all kinds of processed foods, dairy, alcohol, cigarette smoking and other harmful vices. Main foods include mostly green and leafy vegetables and fruits. The treatment was a combination of natural medicine and western medicine. The doctor advised ENTECAVIR (because of high viral load) and the natural doctor prescribed SELENIUM. After 2 years of treatment, HbsAg is non reactive. Take note, the case here is chronic hepatitis b (30 years). Relapse didn't occur because continuation of a healthy living is currently practiced. If I had been cured this means that everyone can be cured from this illness.

Now, if How long and when will you be cured is a difficult question. It's only the Almighty who can answer this. If you want to start treatment, start the changes in your lifestyle. Self - discipline is very much needed and highly essential for the treatment. Next would be laboratory monitoring of Hbsag and Hbeag as well as Sgpt/Sgot. You can do it monthly for at least 3 months to check for the progress of the treatment and if there's a continuous positive result, do it every 2 or 3 months. Treatment is expensive but it is worth it. Good luck

Replied by Maverick

Good day Is theres possible cure to temporary Non-reactive from re-reactive? I will undergo a medical test soon for employment. Hope to hear from you soon. Regards

Replied by Ramesh

Please please help me.I'm still hepatitis b patient.i want go Dubai for job but that virus damaged my life.please please please answer me HBV can positive became negative......my mom and dad very upset about me bcz I'm one and only son.

Replied by Henry
South Africa

I am in South Africa. Where do I buy salvia ligustrum?

Replied by Melody
Manila, Philippines

Can reactive turn to be non reactive?

Replied by Veronica
Hong Kong

Hi I was diagnose of Hepatitis B, but non reactive, Ia m 49 and, I have 2 grown up children, What foods to avoid? I never drink coffee, soda, cold drinks, no pork meat, but chicken and beef very seldom mostly fish, and green veges.. Thank you, I need your advice please, thanks.


Replied by Toye

Pls can I also use chanca piedra phyllanthus niruri capsule to cure hP b, moreso where can I get CP tea to buy in Nigeria

Replied by Melaku Kebede
Ethiopia (adama)

Dear thanks to first to get this chances to taking with u and geting information am suffering from by this chronic hepatitis b virus and am too confused pls I want ur support so I wait ur response


Posted by Dave (Lismore, Australia) on 07/11/2014

What is HBT and how can it help a hepatitis b carrier?

Hepatitis B Remedies  

Posted by Alex (Ottosdal, South Africa) on 07/05/2013

Please Sir, I am suffering from Hepatitis B and HIV1. Please how can I get apple cider vinegar and BH, Chanca piedra and Salvia ligustrum? Thanks and bye

Posted by F Ahmad (Delhi, Bihar, India) on 04/26/2013

Hi, I am looking for HBsAG permanent cure, is there any medicine. My other report as below.

HBeAG Negative
Anti- Body Core Igm Negative
HBV PCR undectectable (0.03)
LFT Normal

Any body has cure for HBsAG please help to raide from this problem, I am very much hopeless about this dirty diease pls help.

Replied by Sateesh

Hi F Ahmed,

Hope you are fine and doing good.. I am in the similar stage as you are posting the msg. I have gone through all the comments, but did not find any relevant answer. I am in the same stage and frame of mind with no hopes.

Can you please help me. Where did you get treated?? Is it completely cured or not?? How to approach and whom to approach?

Regards, Sateesh

Multiple Remedies, Dietary Changes  

Posted by Dealer (Lagos, Nigeria) on 11/22/2013

I hope my life is not coming to a sorrowful end, I was diagnosed with chronic hepatitis B very early 2012. My liver enzymes were within range upon diagnosis and DNA was 5000 iu/ml.

I was adviced against fried, processed, sugar and fatty food, to sum it up I became a vegetarian and embraced Juicing of Carrot, Beet, Brocholi etc.I lived relatively an active life with exercise of four times a week.

I commenced Milk thistle, dandelion root, I repeated DNA test and LFT 6months later DNA:587, ALT 48.My DNA has been fluntuating between 113 and 287 iu/ml and ALT has been 54 at the highest (Last test was Oct 2013).My doctor feel my enzymes and DNA are good and I got confirmation from 2nd opinion (Hepatologist)

Symptoms has been very Yellow urine, fatigue/weakness and body itching, I had taken lot of Chanca piedra and organic coconut oil with multivitamins at various times.

The challenge I have is tremendous and rapid weight loss, its scary how I look as I have lost 12kg, I have lost muscles in my chest and arms and my lower tommy is slightly bulging and bloated with little intake of food its as though my stomach is bigger than my upper limb.I complained to my gastro all she could say was for me increase my food intake and I have been eating well in the past 8weeks yet....

I had Fibros scan done in Feb and the result was (5.8kpa iqr 0.5) I equally had a CT scan in feb and the liver was said to be in normal size.The scan I had last month showed the liver is not inflated.

Has anybody been in this situation before? What can I do? I need honest opinion and guidance please!!!!

Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado

Dealer: A 180 lb. man of average activity requires 500g carbs, 70g high biological value protein, 15g saturated fat, 4g omega 3, 6g omega 6, and 10g omega 9 unsaturated oils to maintain weight. Cooking denatures many proteins, including acetyl carnitine, and many nutrients, including b-6. B-6 activates b-1 and b-2. Conventionally grown food does not have any humic/fulvic acids that activate nutrients, xeronines that activate proteins, or special substances like glycophopholipids that repair the mitochondria. 6g protein is required to replace 1g protein.

Replied by Oscar
Syracuse, New York

The BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] treatment has worked very well for some who have tried it. You need to keep it simple for best results. Things including milk thistle and grapefruit juice will make the treatment NOT work.

A man named Kuba cut his Hepatitis B viral load count down to less than 10% of what it had been in 25 days. Here is what Kuba has to say about this:

Kuba here:

Age: 30
Illness: HepB
Infected since: 1983 (since birth)
BHT started: 03.01.2013
VL test: 14.01.2013 - 1530 ui/ml
VL test: 25.03.2013 - 139 ui/ml
test method real-time PCR

Protocol log:
03.01-10.01 1x350mg BHT bedtime
11.01-11.02 1x350mg BHT in the morning, 1x350mg BHT bedtime
12.02-12.03 cut the dose to 1x350mg BHT at bedtime due to independent severe food poisoning that took almost 4 weeks to ged rid of.
13.03-now got back to 1x350mg BHT in the morning, 1x350mg BHT bedtime

Every other day I take (at least 2 hours away from BHT): vit D3 5000ui, multivitamin iton free, B12, 200mcg selenium (yeast form, non organic forms are bad 4 U)

I could do better with hydrating my body and with workouts.

I do my best to keep the protocol simple as possible. - Kuba


Most of the people have been using the BHT treatment for hepatitis C. But this treatment seems to work very well for hepatitis B also.

Here is the treatment as refined over the last two years:

  • 100mg to 350mg of BHT taken with water on an empty stomach once or twice a day. The dosage varies for each person. Weight is an important factor in determining dosage. Fat content of a person`s body is another. Generally the more you weigh and the higher the fat content of your body the more BHT you need to effectively treat a viral infection. Many average size men have done very well with 250mg of BHT taken twice a day. If adverse side effects occur and persist, LOWER the dosage of BHT used. That is the treatment.

    Supplements that have been shown to work well with the BHT treatment are:

    1. A regular type multi-vitamin and mineral pill once a day.
    2. A regular type vitamin B complex pill.once a day.
    3. Vitamin B12 in a dosage of 1mg [ milligrams ] per day. 1mg is the same as 1, 000mcg { micrograms ].
    4. Vitamin C in a daily dosage of between 500mg and 1, 000mg per day.
    5. The lipid monolaurin. Unsure about dosage.
    6. Sodium selenite in a daily dosage of 50mcg [ micrograms ].

    Also, and importantly: Continue taking any doctor prescribed medicines or drugs. Very many of the people who have had dramatic improvement with this BHT treatment are taking a doctor prescribed medicine of one type or another.

    SUPPLEMENTS TO AVOID. Do not take:

    1. Milk Thistle and it`s extracts. Degrades the treatment to the point that it no longer works.
    2. Grapefruit juice. Degrades the treatment to the point it no longer works.
    3. Colloidal silver
    4. Hydrogen peroxide taken internally. Hydrogen peroxide is a REACTIVE OXYGEN SPECIES. It will make the BHT treatment NOT work.
    5. MMS [ Miracle Mineral Supplement ]. MMS is chlorine bleach, a very powerful oxidizer that will react with BHT in such a way as to make the treatment not work.
    6. Vitamin E supplements. Yes you NEED some vitamin E. But a normal diet provides plenty. Vitamin E supplements have been shown to enhance lipid coated viruses ability to replicate and should be avoided for that reason.

    For best result stick with those supplements I listed that have been shown to work well with the BHT treatment. Vitamin B12 is an especially good one.
    That is the treatment that works consistently well based on the substantial feedback available....Oscar

Please review Kuba`s treatment plan for hepatitis B. Also, Kuba is a pretty healthy man. In my opinion for people who are pretty sick and or thin I recommend taking NO more than 250mg of BHT per day for the first week and see how you feel with that dosage before considering taking a larger dosage of BHT. You have to find a dosage YOU are comfortable with....Oscar

Replied by Wayseeker
Motown, California

Dear Oscar,

So glad you are still here helping others to help themselves!

I feel as if we were just spit out of "the belly of the beast" like Jonah & the whale. The whale being the VA. Apparently Marvin is being declined a new liver based on the fact he used BHT and his hepatitis is almost in normal range. They are sending me the current scores, but are taking way too long to do it. We just returned from meeting the surgery team, and the head surgeon said the most interesting thing to me: He said, "God home and finish getting rid of the hepatitis C, because it will be a lot easier to do it now, than it would be after the surgery." He said this to us three times. I literally couldn't believe my ears! He was Chinese, and didn't have enough grasp of the English language to be cagey, nor apparently, to understand that in America we don't actually want to heal people -- we want the money!

The awful part is, that they saw his healing this aspect (the Hep-C) of his end-stage cirrhosis as such a challenge to the two new drugs coming out or some such attitude, that they are claiming I wouldn't be able to follow directions and didn't have the mental capacity to administer his medications properly, and so would "waste a liver."

So-- Marvin now (may I add, at long last, FINALLY), now have no other alternative but to go alternative! This just made for a shocking and rough drop on our heads from a steep cliff, but I am frankly relieved. They wanted Marvin to get even sicker than he is first-- eeking out every possible pain for a penny more. That being, he had to also get cancer first, which he still does not have! Then, after that, treat it with chemo, and THEN, AND THEN, AND THEN.

The poor man is on toxic overload, but we will seek a real, heroic, true doctor's second opinion next. My question is, when in such desperate straits as End-Stage, what do you think of doing Berkson Therapy and BHT? Marvin desperately needs someone to come alongside him, a docotr interested in helping him heal his own liver, and I am not a doctor so cannot of course give any medical advice whatsoever. Neither can you, so, just asking as a friend, what would you do? Only a doctor can re-evaluate the liver-toxic soup he is on, and try healthy alternatives that heal.

I must tread a little carefully here, but the hour is come and something must be done to reverse the liver--toxic compounds given to him daily to allow the liver to regenerate itself, let the BHT do it's job-- and let the man try to heal. The far-advanced cirrhosis itself, must be healed, now that he has almost no Hep-C.. I am saddened that we wasted so much precious time going down this merry road, with no effort made to actually heal Marvin, only to weaken him further and further.

The bright spot here, however, is that we are finally on the same page, and it has been decided for us, so now we only have a healthy choice as a viable alternative! For this, I AM GRATEFUL.

Love to you, my friend, Oliver -- Wayseeker.

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Posted by Benson (Cleveland, Ohio) on 08/23/2015
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Hello Oscar, thank you for the good job you are doing by helping people with hepatitis.

I was recently diagnosed with hep b with a viral load of 7065 in May 2015. I took Neem, dandelion root and leaf, golden seal, and turmeric. In July 2016, approximately 6 weeks and some days after being diagnosed I tested again, my viral load went down to 4011.

My question is will the BHT totally cure my hepatitis as I am trying to clear it from my system entirely. I read a lot of people says BHT is helping them reduce their viral load but not bring cured totally from it. I read you have been cured from it. Please advice. My ALT is normal. I'm looking forward to take another blood test this week to see if my viral load is gone.

Recent Diagnosis of Hepatitis B  

Posted by Anchy (Malaysia) on 09/28/2013

I went for a test last 6 months and the doctor said that I had hepatitis B. I asked him what I should do and he told me that I do not need any medication at the moment but I need regular check up. I do not really Knew much of the ailment at that time, after investigations I discovered that my life is in danger and this may shake my marriage also. Below is the result of my test.

SGPT (ALT) 29 IU/L 0-53





I do not know where to start and what to do now.

Please help.

Replied by Mike
Denver, Colorado

Anchy: Electricity cures everything. All cells thrive and all pathogens perish when the electricity is high. Imagine a huge electrical storm inside the body energizing the cells and the virus is getting zapped. Raw, fermented, organic, grassfed, and wildharvested nutrients have high electromagnetism and cooked conventional food has low electromagnetism as seen through a tesla scope.

Replied by Anchy

Mike, Please explain more. I do not understand what I need to do. Thanks.

Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado

Anchy: Radio waves have frequencies. The frequency of the cells is not the same as that of pathogens. All diseases are caused by low electrical energies in the cells. All people have to do is increase the electrical energies in the cells. Pathogens are not able to survive in this atmosphere. Enzymes from raw food and live ferments and bioactive minerals from organic fruits and vegetables and raw grass fed animal products like hamburger and eggs increase the electrical energies in the cells. For example raw yogurt from a cow who had been eating grass would increase energies. Pasturized yogurt from a cow who had been eating grains would not. Google raw food videos. If you live in the country you can make green smoothies from edible plants for free. Sun dried sea salt also increases energies. I take 85% raw organic produce and 15% raw grass fed animal products so I can get all the various nutrients because this is also necessary. Some of these products are live ferments.

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa

In addition to diet, it is very important to check your thyroid because 1) liver disease can directly effect thyroid function and 2) low or hypothyroid lowers the voltage in almost every cell in the body. So, be sure to have dr check Thyroid and supplement Iodine in some concentrated form; you can now purchase Iodized sea salt. L Tyrosine is also taken up by the thyroid to make hormones so it would help to take as a supl.

Anyway, it is imperative to optimize cell voltage for any complete recovery or healing to occur. In severe cases using a Zapper a few times daily will help. Some folks have the need to wear them for several hrs per day. A Zapper is like a second immune system and is proven to increase cell voltage.

Posted by Grace (Manila, Philippines) on 08/14/2013

Hi im 25 yrs old I was diagnosed yesterday that I have a hepa b. I'm a nursing student I'm so upset when I hear that how can I take care a patient if I have this condition is this the end of my life? I need some advise. I don't know what I'm gonna do now in my life..

Replied by Oregano
On, Canada

Hello Sir, try the protocol I described which is mine and you will feel better in no time. Find a doctor who can give you B12 and Vitamin C injections, Glutathion injection. Take vitamin D and Sylmarin, N acetylcystein. Best regards,

Replied by Ray

Hi, chancapiedra can be found anywhere in Cebu at no cost. You can make chancapiedra tea without a single peso taken from your money. Its up to you if you take another food supplement together, but for me chancapiedra alone is enough.


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Posted by Closed Eyes (Los Angeles, Ca) on 02/02/2010
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1-4-09 Viral Load 10,250,000 (million!)
I started taking Chanca Piedra 1-24-09

3-16-09 325,000 (hundred thousand). I think this helped but to be fair, I had a Hep A vaccine that caused alot of pain during this time and I wonder if for me, that vaccine stirred the pot and activated a positive immune response against Hep B. IF not then it was the Chanca Piedra

4-23-09 My viral load was 410,000 (hundred thousand)
This was done in another lab and I have ready there can be variance of 80K with the same blood from lab to lab. I also started taking extra virgin coconut oil with Chinese herbs, Salvia/Ligustrum formula (names of the predominate Chinese herbs) at this time.

2-2-10 I decided it was war against Hep B in May of 2009 and did so much research and added the following to the Salvia/Ligustram-Seven Forest, Raw coconut oil capsules:

Plant based selenium 250 mg 3 times a day (Selenomax) I DO NOT recommend the chemical non-yeast form. It hurt my liver really bad. Stick to the plant based as long as your body can handle yeast

One Multi vitamin 3 times a day.
Alpha Lipoic Acid 200 mg 2 times sometimes 3 a day
1 St. Johns wart 500mg capsule at bed time
3 L-Orenthine capsules at bed time
Glutathone with milk thistle 2 times a day
Green tea a few cups a day or every other day.

Every other moth I do a Parasite cleanse using:
2 droppers full of (Green) Black Walnut, Wormwood and Red Clove AND freshly brewed strong Chanca Piedra tea (25% of the bottle was tea) for 2 weeks and the 5th day of each week take an enema of the same amount in 16.9 ounces of water (average size small water bottle) and hold it as long as you can! I was ridicules and held it over night until the coline absorbed the water. I cant recommend that part but I had to state it since I did do it.

Dr. Hulda Clarks theory is that parasites can also be virus factories.

I am almost CURED of chronic Heb B. 10,250,000 to 1,200 in a year!

I must say this should work for other viruses such as HIV and Hep C. Hep B is 50 times more virulent of a virus than HIV according to much research I have read. If any one has any questions, please feel free to ask. I'm no doctor but am some one who cares and believes with proof this works!

Replied by Ycats
Lemoore, Ca

Closed Eyes from LA, I would like to thank you for your very informative letter. I would like more info on all of the doses of EVCO, salvia, ligustrum and so on. I hate living with Hep B and have remained single for 3 years because I am embarrassed to share my virus with them. This is the first time I have ever responded to comments, but I believe you are on to something.I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you...ycats

Replied by Oracleson
Atl, Ga

Hey there, Curious on your current viral load. Do you think Chanca alone can help. I have taken salvia alone before and my load dropped from 10K to 2K in 6 months.

Replied by Merejem
La Union, La Union Philippines

I was a hep b patient before I graduated in college as an engineer. Found out that im a hep b healthy carrier. But I cant go work abroad since I have hep b- I insist I am a healthy carrier but the doctor in clinic says it might turn to active stage. My world seems to go in black and my heart likes to burst. Why me, why does this kind of illness. Many questions still running on my mind even its 9 years ago. My doctor told me before I can only live for 20 years span. And im lucky if I can reach that 20 years. I panicked, I cant sleep, I cant eat as well. But I still continued life, now im still not cured. I'll try this herbal. I used to cut them of my house at povince at la union before, not knowing this herb might help me. Thanks for this comments that ive just read.. I'll try and plant some again im my vicinity. ''Phyllanthus niruri or Chanca Piedra''.. Life goes on and don't lose hope.. Our body might be affected but our heart and spirit to live a normal life must be on top of us.. Live without fear just visit your doctor twice a year after you take this plant.. Good luck to us friend out there. GOD STILL KNOWS BEST FOR US....

Replied by C. Eyes
San Fran, California

Merejem from La Union, you are going to be fine! You are going to live a long healthy life. Just taking the Chanca Piedra alone made my VL drop from over 10 Million down to 300 thousand in 2 months. I made it very strong and drank it 3 or 4 times a day. The Salvia/Lungustrum works too! Its easier to take as you can pop 4 pills, 4 times a day. I mostly use this now as I have grown tired of drinking so much tea! BUT the tea worked the most dramatic and with the fastest results! Selenium is also Very important as the HBV has a gene that is the same as humans in that it takes the enzyme your liver makes out of selenium to thrive in your liver, depleting you of selenium livers and glutathione levels. This is the reason why we are so tired or in a mind fog sometimes. I have read selenium alone reduced viral loads. Like I mentioned above it MUST be the natural plant based Selenium and NOT chilated selenomethionine!!!! The most I have ever taken was 800 micro grams a day (one pill=200 micrograms, four times a day). I cant stress this enough STAY AWAY FROM selenomethionine! Reading the back of the bottle, it should say high yeast selenium. Sometimes it just says food based Selenium. The High yeast, food based selenium is less commonly sold so be sure you go to a healthfood store and ask for the food form, usually sold as high yeast selenium.

Eating anti viral foods like shitake mushrooms and cooking with extra virgin coconut oil will make an impact as well. Vitamins are important to minimize oxidation stress on your body especially your liver. Most important is vitamin D. With liver disease comes vitamin D deficiency. Be sure you are getting higher levels of Vitamin D. The best way is sun exposure. If medical research suggests that with pharmaceutical drugs, elimination of HBV is possible, why not with natural substances as I mentioned above.

My last VL count was 253 in August. Can you believe it! My doctor did not know what to say. He originally said to stay away from alternative things as "they just don't work" and "that stuff is not regulated and who know what you are getting" I'm glad I did not listen. I tried to post this data at medhelp but everyone was so big pharma and anti herbal they chased me out of their forum. IF you have success with any of the above, you must post it places like this to help others. Pass on your good fourtune to help someone else heal rhemselves and eliminate the fear that comes along with HB. I have a feeling it will be 0! I'll update here! Sorry it took so long to comeback here!

Replied by Mamac
Sherman Oaks, Ca, Usa

Closed Eyes from Los Angeles,

Thank you for your post. Did you see a holistic/ ayurvedic doctor in Los Angeles? I have a small boy with chronic Hep B, (from his birth mother) and I am not sure of the correct dosages. He is only 4.

Thank you all so much for sharing your information.

Replied by Jamila728
Rochester, Ny

Hi I have hepatitis b how long ive had it im unsure but I found out 2 1/2 years ago when I was pregnant. My viral load isnt that high about 5800 but its risen from about 2500. My doctor doesnt seemed worried about it at all just telling me to come in every 6 months to monitor it. I dont like this and believe that western medicine is all about pharmacueticals(?). I want to start taking care of myself before its too late can someone help me with herbs and things

Replied by Jamila728
Rochester, New York, United States

Closed Eyes from LA: I just purchased chanca piedra in capsule form from raintree nutrition do you believe that is as affective as the tea? I notice alot of people use it for hep c and you are one of the few I have seen that use it for hep b. I dont want to listen to my dr anymore and there oh dont worry about it attitude. Im ready to take charge and find a way to become healthier than I already am. Any input I'm grateful for. Thankyou

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines

Hi Jamila728... Chanca Piedra is one of the finest all-round herbs out there. It quickly reduces blood calcium levels, is a liver/kidney protective, reduces blood acidity, reduces high blood, reduces blood sugar, is an anti-inflammatory, reduces pain and is a strong anti-viral. Here is the full spec, with all the research, of exacty how useful Chanca Piedra is as a herb:


Chanca Pidra(CP) is also more well-known as a successful anti-viral against Hep B. CP stops the Hep B virus by interferring with the Reverse Transcriptase enzyme during the Hep B virus's reproduction stage. So CP actually stops the Hep B virus reproducing itself.

Chanca Piedra is also currenty being researched for it's beneficial effects against HIV AIDs and Cancer.

CP is also completely safe to take in large doses -- no side-effects have ever been recorded even at large dosages. However, since CP is also a mild diuretic, it might be advisable to supplement with fulvic acid drops or sea salt or a good mineral supplement as well -- if the CP is taken for a long period.

If you have the CP capsules, then take at least 1000 mgs two or three times a day at mealtimes.

I would also optionally use the following protocol to further protect your liver:

Taken at mealtimes

Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day(lunch and dinner)

Selenium -- 200 mcgs twice a day

Milk Thistle -- 1000 mgs twice a day

This simple protocol works to significantly increase Gutathione levels in the liver to help to fight the Hep C virus, remove toxins and to help raise up and strengthen your immune system to proper levels.

Replied by Close Eyelids Poen
Los Angeles, Ca

Mamac fromShermanOaks

The best start in my opinion is to feed the 4 year old good food. There are also anti-virals foods such as coconut milk and shitake & Maitake mushrooms. These foods have been shown to lower HB viral loads. The chanca piedra tea would then be my other recommendation. I cant recommend the Salvia Lingustrum for kids as I don't know ratio portions for kids and what is appropriate. Also, ensure the child is taking daily vitamins. That make a difference also. Not directly but ensure all the necessary nutrients are present for a growing child.

Jamila728 fromRochester, Ny

Wow considers yourself lucky with such a small VL. Drinking Chanca Piedra tea every day, made strong 3 times a day for 4 months and according to a report from a well Know Doctor Bloomburge in the 60's and you have a high change of "Clearing the virus" from the chronic state. I recommend on shitakii mushroom daily too to increase the changes of clearing HB.

Also if you bought the rain-tree capsules, the best way to really get the most out of them is to take one capsule and pour it into scalding hot water, let it sit for 5 min and drink all of it like a tea. You pull more of the active substance out into the water which makes its way into the bloodstream waay more than swallowing the dry pill.

Do this 3 times a day. That will make your bottle last much longer and you will get more Chanka Piedra internally. Do include anti-viral foods in your regimin and a daily vitamin with high levels of Vitamin D. People with liver issues like HB tend to convert less cholesterol in the liver and skin into vitamin D.

Replied by Jamila728
Rochester, Ny

Close Eyelids Poen from Los Angeles, Ca

thankyou so much for your reply I will start putting the capsules in the tea to see if that helps as ive been just taking them in pill form. Also do you have any recommendations for a multi-vitamin? am I looking for like a womens one a day? And should I just eat shitake mushrooms or take a supplement and what kind of anti viral foods should I be eating? Thank you so very much

Replied by Closedeyelidso
Sanfran, Ca

Hi everyone,

Here is an update on liver health I have personally found effective in the last few months.

Without any explanation from my doctors or evident on nay measurable tests, I still have liver pain. According to all prior tests, liver enzymes are low(normal range), I am healthy and there is not liver damage. I also cannot sleep on my right side like I could earlier in the month when eating the below mentioned foods. Measurable dna/rna remains extremely low although I am due for tests in the next month or two. FYI, I am not taking any supplements with the exception of a daily multivitamin and a separate vitamin D 1000 IU capsule. GNC MeggaMens formula is perfect as its selenium and vitamin D levels have recently (in the last 2 years) been increased as science continues to support medical reports of liver and immune health with high daily doses of each in recent findings.

After reading how beneficial watermelon and avocados are to the liver, I decided to incorporate them in to my daily diet. For the first time with out taking a supplement, the liver pain went away on its own! I ate one avocado a day and a plate full of watermellon a day, sometimes twice a day.

I recommend googling "watermelon liver health "and "Avocado liver protector" to read just how beneficial they both are. Usually with the articles are listed the scientific published medical journals that have researched the benefits, explain the why it does what it does and the substances isolated in the foods promoting the positive results.

Also extremely important is what I stopped eating. I reduced my intake of grains such as pasta, rice and breads. I also reduced my meat intake. I increased my raw vegetable intake like tons of spinach or other dark green leafy salads. Do not eat any foods containing canola oil. Read all about what canola oil is made from and how the plant seed, rape-seed is legally classified as an insecticide and how processing of this oil when heating, makes it less friendly to the body by sucking up vitamin e levels in the body.

If one grows tired of eating a lot of watermelon, you can juice it as well. I just got a juicer and juice it with a half of a whole lemon, peel and all. Lemon is also good at cleaning the liver!

It was amazing! To feel great and no liver pain without taking anything was awesome!

Today, I am not too proud to say, I fell off of that great diet and the liver pain returned. I recently have been eating salads again, making fresh carrot/apple/half a lemon juice but not eating any watermelon at all. I think the difference is the lack of watermelon. I'm going to buy one today and cut it up in peaces to eat over the next 5 days. Watermelon contains a potent amino acid extremely beneficial to the liver that aids in the removal of ammonia in the blood.

Just to be clear, a half a watermelon should be consumed in less than 2.5 days. That's how much one should eat or juice. The only downside for me in eating all that watermelon was peeing more frequently!

Be sure if you try the daily avocado, watermelon with the reduction of grains and meats, increased raw veggies let us know if you feel a difference.

Replied by Timh
Louisville, Usa

Closedeyelidso, thanx for your Liver post! If I might reply, it appears something is depleting your glutathione enzyme. Avocato, being one of the riches preformed glutathione foods (next to Asparagus), is obviously giving that boost. The watermelon supports the already taxed kidneys. Since your conditions seems sorta permanent, it seems you might need to do a whole house and whole body detox.

Also, in my own case, I too was using diet/nutrition and alternative cleansing for liver health w/ marginal releif. Then I found out about Milk Thistle Seed. MTS immediately stabilized my liver, but it appears a little too late as I soon became completely disabled. Supplimental NAC is also an excelent Glutathione booster. Another food highly recomended by naturalpaths is Broccoli Sprout Extract as it boost both phases of Liver P-450 enzymes. Good luck on your health journey.

Replied by Closedeyesopen
San Fran

Thank you for your reply. I never had liver pain until I had a Hep A vaccination. Thats when everything started. The hep B had been there unknowingly for a long time with never a symptom. It was literally the next day after the shot when the pain started.

I don't think this will be permanent. My liver is completely healthy with a very small viral count and no damage or visible signs of HepB according to the doctors I have seen over the last 2 years over at UCLA.

I just got finished eating the watermelon : ) I read it was best to eat it before bed for the liver. I started a few days ago and noticed a big difference. I can lay on my side again but just for five min or so which still is a significant improvement from when I wrote the post.

I'm very sorry to hear about your condition. I have read so many stories about how people who were disabled or in need of a transplant, turn themselves around with dietary changes, life style changes and a variety of herbal/amino acids. Hope a turnaround is in store for you soon!

A wise woman once said to me: "I find that nothing will get past the doors of our minds we keep closed - or in other words, remain open and that anything is possible"

That's how I lowered the viral load from Millions to hundreds!

Good luck to you!

Replied by Majid
Auckland, New Zealand

Hi everyone. over 8 years ago I diagnosed with chronic HBV, and I was taking Lamovadine since, until last year I found out my body do not respond to that anymore so I started VIREAD as well.

And now after 8 years of medicine nothing changed . I am sick and tired of this, for last result decide to take alternative medicine as followed :

10/NOV/2011 : I ADD THE Following:

F) Salvia-Ligustrum 2X3 DAILY

I will post my blood result in 2 months. I have no idea how it's gone help, but I am taking them along with my normal medicine.

I will appreciate any comment.

thank you all

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines

Hi Majid... Although your herbal regimen against Hep B is a good one, I think it needs clarifying.

You are already using Chanca Piedra as well as Milk Thistle and Selenium which is great. But you would stand a much better chance against Hep B if you also took Alpha Lipoic Acid, Acetyl Cysteine and low dose naltrexone(LDN) every day as well. See this article about how a child was cured of Hep B using this therapy.


The proper nutrients and dosages you should be taking for this CAM therapy are:

Milk Thistle -- 1000 mgs at meal times twice a day

Selenium -- 200 mcg twice a day at mealtimes

Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day at mealtimes.

Acetyl Cysteine -- 200 mgs twice a day at meals.

LDN -- one 3 mg tablet taken with water at 9:00 pm at night just before bed.

The nutrients act in the following way:

Chanca Piedra -- inhibits the HBV Reverse transcriptase virus stopping its reproductive capability.

CAM therapy -- Kills the virus and repairs the liver by antioxidant action.

LDN -- Increases endorphin levels which doubles or triples the white blood cell count in the body. It also seems to fix any auto-immune signalling problems between the immune system and the anti-bodies which attack the liver. Thus the anti-bodies revert to normal immune behaviour.

This herbal therapy will not only kill the HBV virus -- it also helps to repair the liver damage bacause it greatly raises the Glutathione levels in the liver. This helps to fight the virus, detox and repair the liver as well.

Unfortunately taking Viread as well as Lamivudine will not help you that much. Lamuvidine can damage the liver as well as raise viral levels when used with other anti-virals. Type "lamivudine warnings" in Google search to find out about this. It is also quite difficult to come off Lamivudine but this is up to you.

Replied by Majid

Hi Bill,

Thank you very much for your comment, my doctor told me to stop taking lamevdine 2 weeks ago. And about adjustment I will do that. I have to order online so it gone two weeks before I get anything.

Thanks again for comment.

Replied by Colsede Yeso Pen
Las Altogles, Usa


I have been taking the Salvia Lingustrum with GNC's brand of olive leaf extract for a month now. I find their brand was the most effective olive leaf out of the many brands I have taken over the years. I now have no pain regardless of what I eat as some foods would cause some pain when passing through the liver. I can lay on my side again unlike just a month ago. I started taking them both for something totally unrelated, a sever tooth ache.

A filling came out a month ago which by the way, is good since it was amalgam. Around that time, that tooth was causing severe pain all over my right jaw and face! I am trying to avoid getting a root canal after reading the dangers in health associated with them.

Olive leaf extract worked well in the past with a toothache. I decided to combine it this time with the Ligusrtom formula and it worked within hours!! It works so well. I have been to a dentist and they gave me a prescription for antibiotics which I have not gotten filled as the infection is gone, so long as I keep taking these herbs. IT starts to come back after a day if I go too long without taking it- like 8 hours or more. I will take the antibiotics if this is not completely healed in another week or so.

I have been taking 8 Salvia/Ligustrum with 2 olive leafe, 3 times a day. Also included is about 8,000 IU of Vitamin D and one daily vitamin I take this time a year/flue season to avoid getting the flu.

I will continue with this through the end of February. After that point, I will go for another round of tests and post the results here.

I failed to mention a side effect when taking this amount, this frequently, on a daily basis. It increases libido.

Replied by Jamila728
Rochester, Ny

Ok so I've been taking the chanca piedra capsules. I haven't been drinking it as a tea though :(. What kind of multi vitamin should I be taking along side this. What about maca root- I've heard some things about that. Is there anything specific I should be taking my viral load is really low.

Replied by Closed Lids Wide
Sanfran, Ca

As long as the mulitvitamin high levels of vitamin D and selenium - like the GNC brand usually in a box next to their registers, your good.

Replied by Petur

where the F**K can I get this salvia/ligustrum I have been searching and there is nothing! Please tell me!

Replied by Max
Commerce Township, Mi

Go to the website of traditional chinese medicine in Atlanta. You can order online.

Replied by Kaye
Cebu, Cebu City, Philippines

Hi I'm new here. I was diagnosed with hep b last 2008 and never tried any medications since my doctor just gave me the option to treat myself or not. When I had my screening mg HBsAg w/ Titer (CMIA) shows about 228. 3. 170 and reactive. I read your reviews about chance piedra and curious if it would help me change my hepa status from positive to negative or it would help me eradicate this disease. Where can I buy it here in Cebu? And what's the best brand? Do I need to take any other supplements together with chanca piedra? What's the best thing to do? Thank you

Replied by Seza
Houston, Tx

Hi I'm one of the victum, so I wanna ask about Fig leaf is it works, thanks.

Replied by What
Rio Rancho, Nm, USA

To Closed Eyes from Los Angeles, Ca... I am a carrier of Hep B from childhood, with viral loads of 3 million. My ALT is 50, and AST is 27. I was reading about Chanca Piedra and its possible chance of curing Hep B. I have a question in regards of obtaining Chanca Piedra. Are you consuming the exact from a plant form (how can I obtain this plant?) or can you purchase the manufactured form of it on the internet? What else can you recommend to me?

Replied by Cl-ey
Los Angeles

Since I first posted this in 09, I see Chanca Piedra more widely available on line and even in some higher end health food stores.

You should have no problem finding this herb online. You can rid HB with this tea. You will have to drink 3 tall glasses every day.

Use honey rather than sugar. Thats what I used and got excellent results. After 3 months see where your viral count is. It will be way better! Continue with the tea and keep your tooth bruch in bleach water after using then throw away after 30 days.

Replied by What
Rio Rancho, Nm, USA

Dear Cl-ey from Los Angeles, Thank you for your response. I was able to obtain the dried form of Chanca. I'm not sure if it's benefical if I boiled/steep the plant 3 times before I throw away the Chanca plants and replace it with new ones.

Would you recommend any other supplements from your previous post that I should take with Chanca? Were you able to clear out/seroconverted the Hep B? What is your status on Hep B if you don't mind.

Thanks again.

Replied by Sniper
Manila, Philippines

Hi sir, how really effective is chanca piedra? Is it true that also vitamins e and c cud help and also silymarin? Is there anyone that can attest that he is cured by taking that herb? thanx

Replied by Hifive
Dallas, Texas, Usa

Going to try CP for 2 months and see what happens. I'll keep everyone updated. Been a chronic carrier my whole life. I'll see how well or not so well it does.

Replied by Bebtotz
Bacolod City, Negros Occidental, Philippines

Hi am from philippines, my frend has an hepatitis b, is it true that chanca piedra can cure hepatitis b? pls reply if its true.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines

Hi Bebtotz... There is much research that seems to confirm Chanca Piedra's (Phyllanthus niruri) beneficial and healing action against Hep B:

Genus Phyllanthus for chronic hepatitis B virus infection: a systematic review

Observations of the efficacy of Phyllanthus spp. in treating patients with chronic Hepatitis B

Chanca Piedra inhibits the replication of the Hep B virus and also strongly protects the liver by protecting and fortifying the hepatocytes (worker liver cells) by its strong anti-oxidant action. That's why Chanca Piedra has also been found to be quite effective against the herpes virus(HSV-2) for the same reasons as above. Chanca piedra is also currently being researched for its beneficial effects against the AIDS virus. It has also been confirmed by research that Chanca piedra also works, with increased action, synergistically and beneficially for the liver when combined with the Milk Thistle herb.

I use Chanca Piedra regularly (combined together with Tinospora cordifolia -- called Makabuhay in Filipino) as a decoction to strengthen my liver and kidneys. Chanca piedra grows freely all over the lowlands of the Philippines as a weed and looks like this:

Chanca piedra in the Philippines

The docoction or tea form of Chanca Piedra seems to be the best and most active and useful form to supplement. So, if you can learn to make this aqueous decoction yourself by gathering the Chanca piedra in your own area in and around Bacolod City -- you can make it for free and it wont cost you one peso to make the decoction or tea yourself.

Replied by Wayseeker
Modesto, Ca/ Usa

BHT works, according to quite a few people who have tried it! (Both Hep B and Hep C). --T.

Replied by Mharp
Baguio City, Benguet

09186207028 contact me who need Chanca piedra just for free or email me mharp_baguio(at)yahoo.com

Replied by Dave
Greenville, Sc

The remedies given here focus on herbals and I've enjoyed reading them. One writer said the herbal did not work and asked for others suggestions. Well one known broad spectrum anti viral is colloidal silver. It should be used over a period of a year twice a day, a tablespoon at a time for a system wide infection.

I know for many viral and bacterial infection this simple formula is effective but have never heard if silver can impact VL of Hep B or Hep C.

Replied by Grace Dela Cruz
Pangasinan, Philippinea

I'm interested in the supplements regarding chronic hepa b. How can u help me?

Replied by Leon

Can you please eamil me at omyg56 (at) yahoo (dot) com. I have same hep B and like to talk to you on that please help.

Vitamin E  

Posted by Ricardo Costa (Goiania Goias Brazil) on 01/09/2014

Vitamin E is really good on hep B treatment. Studies show that vit E does not make hep b virus replicate http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11248360. Vitamin E supplementation might be effective in the treatment of chronic hepatitis B.

Replied by Yabyas
St. Cloud, Mn

I am hep b carirer, doctor prescribe me Viread and I started three days ago, I just find out there is another way of treatment even better and less exepensive. What should I do? even though doctor told me If I start this medication I have to contuniu the rest of my life!! Need help please.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines

Hi Yabyas...The only herb that will kill Hep B quickly is Chanca piedra(Phyllanthus niruri). Their is no suitable treatment against Hep B by modern medicine.This herb also works synergistically when taken with milk thistle(500 mgs twice a day with food).

Buy the CP powder form of Chanca piedra from a source like here.

Just boil some water, add 1/2 teaspoon of Chanca piedra powder and make a tea with it. Drink this tea outside mealtimes, two or 3 times a day. You can also take it with green tea for added taste and benefit. After taking this tea for about 3 month then have another check-up for your Hep B antigen count.

CAUTION: Although Chanca piedra is non-toxic it does have other effects on the body and these are -- hypoglycemic(lowers blood sugar), hypotensive(lowers blood pressure), hypolipidemic(lowers blood fat), diuretic. So if you are already taking other medications that have these same effects then please take note that CP tea may increase their effects.


Vitamins C and E  

Posted by Chong (Davao City, Philippines) on 08/06/2013

Good day guys! I was diagnosed last Aug 2012 as a Chronic Hep B positive, I have my liver ultrasound and found out that it is normal. I keep on monitoring my HBV but still my medical result is positive. I take only Vitamin C and E for one year since my doctor said I have to boost my immune system and my case is less infectivity. Just last May I went back for check up still im HBV positive. Guys kindly help me, evryday I felt saddened with my condition and I'm very worrid about what will happen to me. Kindly Help me guys.... I really need your Help

Thanks, Chong from the Philippines

Replied by Oscar
Syracuse, New York

Dear Chong from Philipines, There is the BHT treatment and it has worked well for many with hepatitis B and C. Here are latest recommendations from THE BHT CURES CHAT GROUP:

The BHT treatment is:

200mg to 350mg of BHT taken once or twice a day with water on an empty
stomach. The dosage varies for each person. Generally, the more you weigh the
more you need and the less you weigh the less you need or desire. Age is also a
factor. People around age 60 have a harder time tolerating higher dosages.

Supplements that work well with BHT are:

1. A generic multivitamin and mineral supplement.
2. Vitamin B12 in a dosage of 1mg [ milligrams ] which is the same as
1,000mcg [ micrograms ] per day.
3. Vitamin C in a daily dosage of 500mg to 1, 000mg per day.
4. One vitamin B complex pill per day.
5. The lipid monolaurin. Not sure of dosage.
6. The herb chanca piedra has helped some people. Not sure about dosage.
7. Sodium selenite in a dosage of 300mcg [ micrograms ] a day.
Supplements to avoid:

1. Milk thistle and it`s extracts. It reacts with BHT in a way that degrades
the treatment.
2. Vitamin E supplements. Yes you need some vitamin E. But vitamin E
supplements were proven to ENHANCE hepatitis C`s virons ability to replicate and
therefore vitamin E supplements should be avoided.
3. Any and all other supplements should be avoided until and unless I see
evidence they work well with the BHT treatment. These are MY recommendations.

Now I know Ted has also looked into BHT and has his own recommendations regarding BHT as a treatment for hepatitis B and C. There is the REMEDIES tab at the top of this page. So you can click onto B and then look for BHT and click unto that and read what different people have to say about BHT as a treatment for hepatitis B and C....Oscar

EC: Here is the BHT page on Earth Clinic: http://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/BHT.html

Replied by Roy
Las Vegas

The key to dealing with Hep B, C, whatever is dealing with the flimsy lipid coating that the virus uses to hide in soft tissue. I recommend Monolaurin (3 tablespoons a day) bio-fibrin 2 capsules 3 times a day, and BHT 350Mg 2 to 3 times a day on empty stomach. The monolaurin will clear all parasites, bacteria, virus, and fungus while the BHT and bio-fibrin destroys the outside lipid skin that envelopes and protects the virus. Please go to or google inspired nutrition for research papers. This is nature's way of dealing with deadly viruses

Replied by Afen
Lagos, Nigeria

Please guys respond. I was diagnosed of chronic Hepatitis B with vira load of 140200, liver tests says there are extensive areas of balloon degeneration, moderate infiltration of portal tracts by mononuclear inflammatory cells, some portal tracts show bile duct prolification and a few areas show mild lobular inflammation while some portal tracts appear fibrotic. I started using tenofovir and livolin almost 2 months now. What do you advice?

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee, Usa

Hi Afen,

Missionaries, who often have little access to conventional medicine, have successfully used activated charcoal to treat Hepatitis. Here is a story of man who used charcoal to treat hepatits. (His story is about half way down the page.)


Basically, he took the charcoal internally and used the charcoal externally. You could try taking 1-2 t. Of activated charcoal powder in 8 oz. Of water twice a day. Take at least 2 hours after medication or 2 hours before, as it will affect prescription medication. If you are prone to constipation, be sure to get plenty of water. (And if you are prone to constipation, get that addressed as your body needs to be regularly eliminating toxins and not retaining them longer than necessary.)

You can make a charcoal poultice and put over your liver area each night. This is sort of a pain, but very effective. If you can get flaxseed to add to the charcoal, it makes it easier to work with and retain the water longer. (Charcoal must be wet to work. ) Mix equal parts of ground flax seed and charcoal. Add water and stir until it is jelly like in consistency. Spread over a paper towel. Cover with another paper towel. Put this poultice over your liver. Cover with plastic wrap. Use an ace bandage or something to attach it to your body. Make a new poultice each night. (You can make up a week's worth and keep the extras in the refrigerator.)

Dandelion tea is excellent for healing the liver. I knew someone who healed his Hepatitis C with Dandelion Tea alone. Start with 1 cup dandelion tea and work up to 3 cups a day. (Be sure to steep the tea for 15 minutes before straining.)

You say that your viral load is high. Extra Virgin Cold Pressed Coconut Oil is amazing for viruses. My son had mono once and nothing was working but then we started coconut oil he got well very quickly. Start with 1 t. morning and night and work up to 1 Tablespoon morning and night by the end of the week.

It is important to be drinking plenty of water to flush out toxins. (1/2 gallon over a day, herbal tea counts as part of this.)

Also, increasing your intake of fresh fruits and vegetables (organic, if possible) would be very helpful, too.

Teas, poultices, and dietary changes are a lot of work, but very effective!

Please let us know how you are doing and what worked for you!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

To Mama to Many re your post on use of charcoal;

Outstanding post and your reference to the web site "Charcoal Remedies.com" . Years ago I kept charcoal as one of my often used "nutrients" and occasionally took a few pills as a tablet, but the "Charcoal Remedies" site got me to realize the great uses of Charcoal as a poultice as well as an internal cleanser.

That web site had such good information and I so appreciate you sharing it. In fact, I stayed up for two hours tonight reading from it! The site has wonderful practical uses... Story after story and lots of MD's use of charcoal as well. I've always been fascinated by the use of "poultices" and now I'll include charcoal as one of the "go to" items in my array of practical helps.

Again, thank you. Dave

Vitamins, Milk Thistle  

Posted by Nur (California) on 02/05/2014

Hi, I have chronic Hepatitis B, under no medication, over the years I had normal ALT and AST but this year it went to the 200 range and I don't know why. I do have sharp liver pain. I am afraid of what's happening to my liver. I eat a healthy balanced diet, juice every morning and take my vitamins and milk thistle. I am not taking any medication b/c I want to help my liver naturally. What can I do? Also, can essential oils damage the liver?

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe

Nur, read up on Oscar's ideas about BHT for Hep B.

Replied by Mike62

Nur: Essential oils happen to be excellent. Taking 4g/6x/day non defatted desiccated Argentinian liver with 5000iu d3/day is also very beneficial. So is making a smoothie 4x/day of 1/2 organic lemon, including the peel, 1oz organic baby leaves, some organic chili, 2g Hawaiian spirulina, 10g black chia seeds, and 1g chlorella. Search raw food videos for some good ideas.

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh

Two things come to mind regarding Hepatitis and liver healing. Google Dr. Burt Berkson + liver disease and you can see how successful he has been using Alph Lipoic Acid and Low dose Naltrexone. Generally, Dr. Berkson insists that the ALA be European sourced (the R-ALA), however, a woman who has been following his protocol for years with very good results, reports that her local practitioner asked her to try the sustained release ALA by J----w, and her numbers improved even more than with the European ALA. Secondly, a regular poster on this site, Oscar, has developed his own very successful protocol that has helped countless people reduce their viral load by taking BHT capsules. If you look under the Ailments tab, hepatitis B, you can read the posts on this site. I imagine it is also under the Remedies tab, under BHT. Although these treatments are not exactly "natural, " they will both heal your liver. Best wishes.

Replied by Prioris
Fl, Usa

Question for people with Hepatitis B and liver problems ... In practice, how does using a undenatured whey protein e.g. immunopro compare to using milk thistle. What about acetyl-glutathione?

Replied by Az

Thanks all I read almost all, am HBV positive with DNA undetectable no viremia and lft normal, which is best to take to get surface antigen tof negative? Am in Ethiopia can any one help me how to get chanca piedra tea.