Natural Detox Remedies for Fluoride Poisoning & Overload

WARNING!

I was researching damage to the hippocampus, (see hippocampus on Wiki or equal),& found that many of the disease states listed from ADD to Alzheimers are very prevalent in society & many of the drugs prescribed for treatment contain in one form or another fluoride. Approximately 1500 antidepressants contain fluoride. A friend was prescribed a compound of cortisone cream for dermatitis which contained fluoride. Its everywhere folks, & its earlier use goes all the way back to guess who, Hitler. There are a few states that do not use fluoride in their drinking water & Hawaii as of 2-yrs ago was voting to remove its use from their water.

Hi Roland...You can certainly leech out the fluoride from your body using borax. Borax also acts as one of the best fungal killers and also kills bacteria as well as balances the hormones and is also good for bone.

A more complete regimen to clear all dangerous halides from your body -- that's fluorides, bromides and chlorides -- is simply to take iodine. You can supplement iodine taking either Iodoral tablets or Lugol's iodine or simply use iodine foot-painting with tincture of iodine(as I do). Iodine will also leech out lead and mercury from your body as well.

Ways to clear heavy metals are -- take cilantro (chinese parsely, coriander leaf) three times a week in salads or just drink green tea several times a day. You can also take take sodium thiosulfate regularly to rid heavy metals from your body. See the relevant section here:

Sodium Thiosulfate Heavy Metal Detox

If you are using borax to clear fluorides then it is sensible to take this protocol for four days on with three days off every week.

Hi,

I would like to know if I ad 1/4 tsp of borax to 1 L regular tap water, than it will neutralize the fluoride and other heavy metals and other impurities found in the water?

How long can I take the combination of 1/4 tsp. of borax 1 L water? can I take it for the rest of my life, everyday?

What is exactly the protocol to clean the body from fluoride and other heavy metals? Thank you

My question is, after all my research in fluoride detox. Using borax seems like one the best over the counter ways, Boron is its main compound that is used for the detox process. What if I were to just use liquid Boron for the detox instead of using borax.

Hi Michael, Everything I have read states charcoal will not remove fluoride from your body. You can verify this by searching this on the internet. Borax will however remove fluoride from your body. Earth Clinic has a ton of information on how to use Borax to remove fluoride. Be sure and take you time to read the info so you will completely understand the process and for how long. I think I read it was 6 months but not sure. Good luck.

I could be wrong but I don't think Activated Charcoal (AC) will help you with that.

From what I understand AC works by sticking to unwanted matter in your gut and aiding elimination. Fluoride poisoning is not restricted to your gut, it's systemic. I don't think AC has any effect to other parts of your body other than the inside of your digestive system. Does anyone else know?

Can I use activated charcoal to rid my body including the bones of the build up of fluoride? Does activated
charcoal cleanse the body or treat the body for fluoride poisoning? Will a water filter with activated charcoal purify the water of fluoride? Right now I feel fine by it has done damage to my teeth and I can only imagine what shape my skeletal system is in. Please, if you can answer my questions or point me to someone who may be able to help me. I would be very appreciative of that.

Respectfully,
Michael

Dave from Surrey may of indeed been poisoned by boric acid use instead of borax as you suggested. And I'm sorry to point out that in the article's references notated under

"A STUDY OF ANTIDOTES FOR FLUORINE S. MARCOVITCH 1 and W. W. STANLEY 1"

you will read that "Boric acid also has some value as an antidote through the formation of a fluoborate." The problem is that this is a pesticide used to kill roaches and ants and there needs to be a warning posted to prevent future misuse of this information! Thank you.

To whom it may concern,

I have been living in Ireland for 3 years. Due to my current health condition, I have a suspision of being toxicated by fluoride, which has been found in Irish drinking water. I have done a thorough research on internet in relation to fluoride analysis toxicity tests, unfortunately I was not able to find an appropriate test center nor a test kit so far.

What is the fluoride testing method?

Would it be possible to tell me how can I analyze my body against fluoride toxicity, please? This information is extremely important for me.

Thank you for your time in advance,

Best Regards,
Peter

Borax helped me detox from fluoride. I didn't have fluoride poisoning, exactly, but my thyroid wasn't working well -- I only realised this years later, after things got REALLY bad & I was at long last diagnosed. The dr said I had an auto-immune disease, my immune system was attacking my thyroid. he said the thing to do was supplement the thyroid. I thought "why not try to balance the immune system?" but I didn't say anything.

Thanks to Ted's hint about borax, I am feeling better. In fact at times I have to stop & un-do some of my improvements, because I need my medicine lowered & the dr won't lower it yet.

what has helped me, very much, is:
eliminate all sources of fluoride; so , drink pure water, switch toothpaste, & cook from scratch using pure water.... avoid foods that cause trouble for the thyroid: peanut butter, broccoli/cabbage/etc.... avoid foods that OVERstimulate my immune system -- it is already over active so I sure don't need it more active! I rarely have oranges or other citrus any more.
When I do, I have that muscle-spams again, that I used to have all the time; I have to be sure to have anything like citrus, in the morning, & at night be certain I don't forget the borax, or else I will have restless legs at night. I find that taking selenium really helps. It helps balance my immune system. ...I also take kelp, about 1 or 2 capsules a day...and vitamin D. ...also, I did start adding iodine into my drinking water that I drink at night, and sometimes I apply it to my skin on my inner wrists (it's absorbed there). When I am doing everything , I stay well.

I don't know if my medicine contains fluoride. I hope not, but I am going to ask the pharmacist.

How do I neutralize fluoride in tap water? Can I use sodium thiosulfate, borax or baking soda? Can I use all 3 together?

Google, the Fluoride Action Network which a lot of information on this. Also known as FAN. Wouldn't it be nice if fluoride was not added to any water systems on this earth?!! It's just poison! Maybe if you tell your city council that they will save money by not adding it to water they will listen. Also, it's very hard on children having detrimental physical and mental effects.

Maybe you will be the one to stop fluoride from being used in water systems in Utah!

Wishing you well!

Oh yes, please keep us posted if you take any action.

I have fibromyalgia. I know many people in my city that do. What is the best way to go about encouraging our city to removed fluoride from our drinking water?

Fibro/Flouride

A brief history. 7 years ago thyroid cancer, the next year adrenal fatigue then early menopause, the following year uterine prolapsed followed by hysterectomy- the following year fibromyalgia and neuropathy. Early Childhood was fluorinated water along with fluoride tablets. Fall of 2008 I was looking at total disability. I could barely walk and couldn't sleep because of the pain and was throwing up daily from the pain in my back. I was on many medications that gave me no relief and I have since found out that they had fluoride as a binding agent. I was sure that my life was over at 45, but thanks to Ted and Earthclinic I am almost at 100%. After reading about fluoride I came to understand where all of my problems originated. I had all the symptoms and reactions. It has been an uphill battle with my doctors and relatives, but you can't argue with a body that is almost pain free. I began the borax detox of 1/8 tsp in a liter of water and within 3 days my symptoms were almost gone. I watch everything I eat and can detect fluoride in vitamins, foods and drinks within 15 minutes of ingesting it. I still suffer from the neuropathy and some pain from the neuropathy but I am off all meds and I have my life. I only wish more people would try to understand the fluoride connections. My sister and mother both suffer with side effects of fluoride and I have only been able to influence my mother. I still borax 5 days on and two days off and give my body a break every month or so for about a week. Thank you :)

Tumeric (the spice) works to STOP inflammation, use it in your food or fill empty capsules with it. Try about 1/2 teaspoon twice a day...Adjust quantity as needed, works almost immediately. Black Walnut (herbal) will kill parasites, usually the cause of inflammation, they don't test for parasites in this country & everyone has parasites.This is the first time I've read about Borax being ingested to remove fluoride. That's probably why it's called "folk remedies"... Nice website.

AquaFina is tap water from Detroit. It has fluoride in it.

BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

This is a rather long submission I'm sorry, but one which I hope someone will be able to find help from.

I found this site a month ago looking for an answer to neck, shoulder and arm pain. I've always had problems in this area but for the last 6 months it was chronic, and had spasmed- leaving me unable to move at times.

After reading the EC fluoride page I now know what the problem is. I've always lived with fluoridated water, and as a child was given fluoride tablet supplements. I have had problems with brain fog, indigestion, muscle and joint pain, and tiredness, for a long time, but they have all become really noticeable lately, yes I turned 50 last year. I drink a lot of water, so I bought a bench top filter (have ordered a fluoride filter module). The first thing I noticed was that the filtered water doesn't burn my throat when I drink it and I don't burp afterwards. I presume that burning is the taste of chlorine.
Here is my diary for the last 4 weeks, I think it is a testament to the EC site , everything I have done I found here:

I took Magnesium and Vitamin C for the shoulder, neck pain .. remarkable, within 2 hours the pain was subsiding, within 24 hours 95% gone. I continued with magnesium and Vit C every day for a week or so. And have weekly professional massages but with coconut oil. I still have some stiffness when I turn my neck too far either way, but at least I can turn it.

My Indigestion: Occasional burning, (especially at night), but chronic burping, all the time. (I use no white flour, sugar, etc that helps a lot, but still burp, burp, burp.)
I Tried Apple Cider Vinegar, a small dash in water throughout the day, but after 2 days this set my teeth on edge.
I Tried it with the Baking Soda. Same thing.
Tried Baking Soda and Citric Acid .. Same thing.

Finally gritted my teeth and tried the lemon juice/baking soda method (the thought of it made my stomach heave) -. remarkable. It was like somebody opened a window and let the fog out --I'm talking within minutes -- and the burping stopped. I was expecting to burp for hours, but nothing, and my stomach felt relaxed, my whole body sighed with relief. Am taking it 2 x day.

I also tried Castor Oil packs on an area central just below the breast bone, that was sore to touch and hard. I put the pack on the spot with a heat bag at night before I went to sleep at about 12pm and took it off at 3 am toilet visit. I did that 2 nights, and both times, the next day, at about 10am I felt a strange trickling feeling from that sore point, and I felt nauseous until I had something to eat. It doesn't feel swollen or sore any more. I don't pretend to know what it was, but it worked and feels good.

Last week, I had a foul, metallic taste in my mouth. I was using Cilantro (made into pesto, with olive oil, sea salt, lemon juice, sunflower seeds, blended till fine). Having that 2 or 3 times a day, and also taking Lecithin granules. I suppose I was taking too much. Couldn't work out why my mouth tasted so foul, I had a look at my tongue in the mirror and got such a fright, it was green. Then I realised that it was probably the "Living Green Drink" I'd also been using to try and get more greens into my diet. Ha Ha. It also makes my stomach feel good.

The metallic taste settled down after a couple of days. I've since noticed that you say to use the Cilantro every other day. Was my using it every day what caused the metallic taste do you think?

About 2 weeks ago I noticed a large mass in my right breast. It was hot to touch and sweating, but there was no sign of infection, no redness or swelling. It appeared from nowhere, I've never had breast lumps. I presume it is a calcium deposit caused by the magnesium? I have wondered about too much calcium in my system, I have arthritis in my knees and ankles. A bone density test I did once, showed readings so high they were off the chart.
This mass is getting smaller. I am continuing with the lemon/baking soda, do I do that until it has disappeared? Do I still take it 2 x day everyday? I have stopped the Magnesium, is that right or will I continue with that also, if so how much and how often? I want to start to using a mineral supplement, instead of just plain Magnesium. Should I find one without Calcium? Have also started taking Vitamin E 500 iu x 3 day.

Also, you talk about your Miracle Water and broad parameters. I started my menstrual cycle again, I haven't had one for 6 months. It lasted 9 days, a long time for me. Not heavy, but annoying. I tried 1 tblspn of coconut oil twice a day. Still bleeding. Tried Evening Primerose Oil. Same thing. I was starting to worry, It seemed strange that it started out of nowhere? Today I took apple cider vinegar. A dash in water, it went down a treat. (No burning or burping). An hour or so later, took a bigger dash in water, and the bleeding has stopped. Yea! Does this sound right? As I said I haven't had one for 6 months, and I have no other menopause symptoms. It will be interesting to see if they continue to be regular after using the Miracle Water.
I hope you can find the time to answer my questions, I would really appreciate it.

Also, you should think seriously about documenting all your trials and successes in a book. Your years of work and experiences are important. I also believe that if we looked long and hard enough at you, we may be able to see a pair of wings attached to your back. Your are a blessing and are at-one with the angels!

Kindest Regards.

A woman's dose is 1/8, a man's dose is 1/4 dissolved in one liter of drinking water. I can't say much about this poster since sufficient details are not mentioned, except for the fact that he's prediabetic, which borax has a tendency to normalize blood sugar. So I find this posting fishy on many points. A lot of people through private emails actually take a much larger dose that this.

Loss of sex drive has never been reported except for fluoride. Most report an increase in sex drive. Most of the problems reported are associated with boric acid, not borax because boric is acid. Acid eats up kidney, whether it's boric acid or acid forming foods in general.

So I have many regrets on this email. A genuine poster would also email directly to me before posting them and give sufficient details. An intentionally fake poster will report unusual side effects, lacking in sufficient details, on Earth Clinic without telling me. So you can see why I find this a suspicious post.

Ted

This is not the correct way to do it. The proper method is to dissolve the borax 1/32 teaspoon to 1/4 teaspoon in ONE LITER of drinking water and drink throughout the day. It was not designed to take in pure powder form, usually to rid of autoimmunity disease or a known fluoride poisoning. In rabbit test the dose is roughly lower than this concentration to protect against fluoride poisoning when they added lethal dose of fluoride.

Ted

I slowly went from 1/32 teaspoon to 1/4 teaspoon dose borax to remove fluoride from the body. I quit after about 2 days on the 1/4 teaspoon dose. I mixed it properly in pure water according to the directions that I found here. I had to go off of the borax due to aches and pains in the testicles, kidneys, and head. I was very frightened, especially about that kidney pains. Unfortunately, the pains indicated damage. I now, months afterwards, have pain in the kidneys every day, and I have actually LOST almost all of my sex drive. The pains indicated damage that seems permanent. Being prediabetic, perhaps I shouldn't have risked kidney damage!!!! But I miss my sex drive more. It's gone, and borax is not only as toxic as salt to me. Not by far.

Iodine supplementation markedly increases urinary excretion of fluoride and bromide - Letters to the Editor
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2003_May/ai_100767875

"With 3 tablets, the 24h excretion of fluoride was 17.5 times baseline level; and for bromide, 18 times baseline level. These high levels persisted even after one month of supplementation at 3 tablets/day, being 15 times baseline level for fluoride, and 16 times for bromide. After one month, the estimated total amount of halide excreted was 24 mg fluoride and 8700mg bromide.

I have not yet tried this but a friend shared this info with me recently:

Reading the Wheatgrass Book from Ann Wigmore, I want to share with you this incredible discovery :

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Page 62
Chapter " ARE YOU PROTECTED FROM THE HAZARDS OF MODERN LIVING? "

"A few years ago, I ( Ann Wigmore ) asked Dr. GH Earp Thomas of the Bloomfield Laboratories in High Bridge, New Jersey, to do an experiment for me. He placed a small amount of wheatgrass juice in a jar of regular tap water and he tested it for fluoride and other chemicals present in the water...

Both of us were surprised by the results!

He concluded, "Fluorine rapidly combines with calcium phosphate and other kinetic elements to lose its toxic properties, and harden teeth and bones. that is why fresh grass would act as a catalyst to speedily change the acid fluorine into a beneficial component with a positive reaction...

By using wheatgrass, which is comparatively rich in calcium phosphate, it would remove any free fluoric acid and change its negative charge to an alkaline calcium phosphate fluoride combination with a positive reaction"

I was amazed (Ann Wingmore )

not only did wheatgrass neutralize the toxic effect of fluorine but it converted it into an ally in maintaining healthy bones and teeth! I don't recommend that you drink tap water, though; pure spring or purified water taste better and is much better for you. But if you cannot obtain spring or purified water, pour a little wheatgrass juice into regular tap water, and it will make it more healthful..."

book info: The Wheatgrass Book: How to Grow and Use Wheatgrass to Maximize Your Health and Vitality (Avery Health Guides)
Author: Ann Wingmore

I have not yet tried this but a friend shared this info with me recently:

Reading the Wheatgrass Book from Ann Wigmore, I want to share with you this incredible discovery :

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Page 62
Chapter " ARE YOU PROTECTED FROM THE HAZARDS OF MODERN LIVING? "

"A few years ago, I ( Ann Wigmore ) asked Dr. GH Earp Thomas of the Bloomfield Laboratories in High Bridge, New Jersey, to do an experiment for me. He placed a small amount of wheatgrass juice in a jar of regular tap water and he tested it for fluoride and other chemicals present in the water...

Both of us were surprised by the results!

He concluded, "Fluorine rapidly combines with calcium phosphate and other kinetic elements to lose its toxic properties, and harden teeth and bones. that is why fresh grass would act as a catalyst to speedily change the acid fluorine into a beneficial component with a positive reaction...

By using wheatgrass, which is comparatively rich in calcium phosphate, it would remove any free fluoric acid and change its negative charge to an alkaline calcium phosphate fluoride combination with a positive reaction"

I was amazed (Ann Wingmore )

not only did wheatgrass neutralize the toxic effect of fluorine but it converted it into an ally in maintaining healthy bones and teeth! I don't recommend that you drink tap water, though; pure spring or purified water taste better and is much better for you. But if you cannot obtain spring or purified water, pour a little wheatgrass juice into regular tap water, and it will make it more healthful..."

book info: The Wheatgrass Book: How to Grow and Use Wheatgrass to Maximize Your Health and Vitality (Avery Health Guides)

Author: Ann Wingmore

Fluoride as a wonderful thing is not nearly the worst scam in the world. It should be added that fluoride, in small repetitive doses over time, such as using toothpaste with fluoride for years, destroys a certain area of the brain that makes the person more easily controllable. This is an example of how governments keep the masses from revolting. As for the REAL cause behind Lyme disease and all other related diseases, such as chronic fatigue syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, AIDS, etc. Check out the following link: http://nationallymereport.com/?p=113

Go ahead and research that this link is truth and not some conspiracy theory. Check out U.S. Patent #5242820.

Thanks to all for the info on Borax and related.

I am hoping you will start a new supplements section on iodine. Also another section on maybe causes of ailments, like fluoride and the problems it causes. Here is my story about fluoride, iodine, and thyroid....

I first noticed my husbands goiter close to 6 months ago, at that time it had become quite noticeable and was indeed very large. Obviously concerned for his health he went to see his doctor, who referred him to an endocrinologist, who then referred him to a surgeon. Strangely enough they told him his blood levels were normal and he didn't have a thyroid condition.... interesting since he has this giant goiter on his neck. lol

At the time there was so little that I knew about thyroid disease and I didn't have much interest in it, I was concerned for my husband but thought that surgery was the only option. Then my husband began to have panic attacks after my daughter was born, and at home no less (I now understand it to also cause and fluctuation of the thyroid hormone)! I honestly thought it was a mind over matter and went searching online to prove that he just needed to stop scaring himself. Instead what I found was that his panic attacks were actually caused by the goiter. Because I had my daughter at home without a midwife, just me him and my mother (planned it that way ; ) I had already learned a few natural remedies, while looking up honey and the wonderful benefits of it I also learned of coconut oil, though I only learned about it being good for pimples. I was interested in purchasing some coconut oil online and that's when I found some of the most amazing information. The site selling it said it helped with thyroid conditions, I wasn't going to believe them, after all they were selling it they would say anything to sell their product right? So I looked up thyroid forums and testimonies regarding the use of coconut oil and sure enough I found out that it was indeed beneficial to his thyroid. Well I ran out to the store and bought some the next day, in the car my husband was exhausted and began to have a panic attack and I told him to take some coconut oil, he only had a 1/4 of a teaspoon and ten minutes later his attack had subsided and he felt energized! After this experiment, we continued treatment and slowly worked up to 3tblspns a day where he's at now. After that revelation and since we had his attacks under control (and in fact after taking it for a week he no longer even experienced an attack) I went back online to find out what we needed to do to shrink his goiter. That's when I learned about iodine and how important it is and how many people are deficient and thus many are hypothyroid and even still many are undiagnosed with hypothyroidism. I also learned about what counteracts iodine, like soy which is a big one since it is in just about all prepackaged foods. When I found out how important iodine was for the thyroid and how the thyroid makes hormones for your whole body I became interested in what else iodine deficiency was responsible for, And do you know what I found? Lots! Here is a sight that lists all the symptoms of iodine deficiency...

But first, after realizing that my husbands thyroid was caused by a change in his diet, I began racking my brain thinking of what on earth has changed over the past year. I've been trying to figure it out for the past couple months and today I found it.

During our big change to all, well almost all, things healthy, I remembered reading about people using toothpaste that doesn't have fluoride in it.. I looked online for the reason why and WOW, what I found is shocking! Fluoride also counteracts iodine, it inhibits the uptake of iodine to your thyroid and we both know (at least by now) how important adequate amounts of iodine are to your thyroid. So I told my sister about it and she said that she didn't think we had fluoridated water, so I searched for the cities that had it in OC and that's when I came across this article ( http://www.ocregister.com/article/water-fluoride-county-1924513-muir-doctors ). I told my sister what I'd found out and how the time they added fluoride pretty much coincided with the onset of my husbands goiter and the worsening of his thyroid (I believe he has been hypothyroid for a long time as have I and my mother based on the symptoms) and my sister said that she has experienced a worsening of her asthma over the past year!

I am interested in asking friends of mine who have symptoms of iodine deficiency whether they experienced and increase or decrease in their symptoms over the last year (without divulging anything till they have answered so that my findings are not biased) I will report back later with some of my findings, but I am interested if anyone else has experienced similar problems after their area had been fluoridated.

http://charles_w.tripod.com/fluoride.html

http://www.ocregister.com/article/water-fluoride-county-1924513-muir-doctors

http://poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/symptoms.html

Hi again! I've been thinking about fibromyalgia and fluoride and I'm wondering if the ice cream/sinus infection thing is related.

Could both problems be caused by the known chemical reaction between fluoride and dairy? Some ice cream must be processed with fluoridated water problems. And the best selling brands are probably processed at more than one plant. Perhaps some are on fluoridated waterlines and some aren't...

This might explain the hit and miss aspect of both problems i.e. why some get fibromyalgia and/or sinus infections and some don't.

Calcium reduces the amount of fluoride that is absorbed by the body but dairy products are contra-indicated for fibromyalgia sufferers. So, where are they getting their calcium? What about blackstrap molasses? Non-dairy PLUS lots of calcium.

I also found that activated charcoal won't bind fluoride but DE (diatomaceous earth) does.

This all seems garbled but I'm going to send it anyway. Could be important.

Let me give you a shot gun approach as understandably you are frustrated...raw milk..loaded with enzymes and amazingly adaptogenic..buy lactase at Walmart if you are lactose intolerent...limit your diet...spices, fruit,berries and to meat and various animal proteins..liver is exceptional if you are feeling weak...skip the veggies for a week or so...Take a couple full clusters of garlic...score every section with a knife, put them in a mug and microwave for about 2 minutes. when fully cooked the garlic will be rather mild in flavor and you can dip in butter... u may also add in digestive enzymes a half hour before meals...Potent Bacopa..a strong extract will do wonders to straighten up a body gone wild...take a serving starting in the morning every half hour until you find your self with a good solid headache...it shouldnt be more than 15 capsules... the next day take the number of tablets it took to achieve the headache in one dose...by the third day you will find that you dont have any headache and your body might just be functioning better in every way...Give this one week...I think you will be happy you did...if not, dont give up...there is no such thing as uncurable.

This is a comment for Chris (11/03/2008) regarding the borax. Hi Chris, the Borax is in the laundry detergent section in the store. First time when I have found the Borax in the laundry detergent section in the local grocery store I was surprised. I am from another country so I was clueless what is the borax. I asked the pharmacist what he thinks if I put a tiny Borax to my drinking water. He didn't seem surprised he said people using the Borax for different kind of weird reasons probably it will kill the bacteria in my water. I am using the 20 Mule Team Borax (chemical name is Sodium Tetraborate Decahydrate) with very good result. I am using it treating Candida and knee arthritis. Regards, Edith

Where can you buy borax? I thought that it was a laundry detergent.

Hanna Kroeger developed an herbal tea, its called Fluoride Tea, it literally saved my life and sanity 20+ years ago, I had some dental work done at a dental college where they gave me "fluoride treatments" for peridontial disease. Shortly after these treatments, developed what I call my brain swelling inside my skull or my skull was shrinking, extreme fatigue, brain "fog"...etc. I was told about a health food store and I went there, the proprieter, a former nurse, knew immediately when I told her of my symmptoms what was wrong, she sold me the Kroeger Tea with instructions on how to consume it... 4 cups spaced over my waking hours each day. I made a quart a day. My symptoms had diminshed almost to nothing within a week. We have a two stage water filter in our kitchen, one is for chlorine and the other for fluoride. It has made a huge difference in our lives, also use a non-fluoridated toothpaste.

To the poster named Ron. I just read your list of symptoms and I match just about every single one of them. I've been suffering with similar problems for years now and to the point of actually contemplating suicide. When I was younger my problems were diagnosed as being related to depression. I don't buy that. The so-called anti-depressants made my condition worse. I have so many questions. If I posted my e-mail address would you be willing to help me? No one in the professional community is willing to address this problem of poison in our water. I don't have health insurance or the money to seek any kind of help alternative or otherwise. I'm desperate for advice.

Hi There,
Any doctor that is doing detoxification techniques would be helpful. There are plenty here in Cincinnati that would be willing to help with chelation, colonics, neurotransmitter restoration or the like. But why not try something inexpensive and accessible like the Borax? And get reverse osmosis in your house, clearing up your water supply, replacing your toothpast, avoiding green tea, prescription drugs w/flouride are first steps..

Hey, you left out one of the major neurotoxins that permeates all our processed foods and kills off our brain cells- MONOSODIIUM GLUTAMATE (MSG)! We are probably getting more of it in our processed food than we would from eating Asian or stir-fried foods all the time. WAKE UP AMERICANS! The FDA isn't about to ban any of these neurotoxins so the only way you are going to get them out of our food is to stop buying anything that contains them and write the manufacturer telling them why. Big Business's Big Bucks might work with the FDA but when they find they don't have a market, our bucks are going to talk to the Big Business that is contaminating our food supply. With the news that Alzheimer's disease is now starting in the third decade (30's) and in those with no family history of it (genetic predisposition), we don't have time to waste. We will soon be a nation of people unable to care for ourselves and few, if any, left to take care of us! From another Sheeple.

There is MORE to Fluoridation of our water than meets the eye. Perhaps this will explain the otherwise unexplainable obstination of our loving government officials, in spite of demands and lawsuits to the contrary by the People, in their forced use upon us of this corrosive poison. Implemented in both the Bolshevik gulags and the Nazi concentration camps to mentally subdue their prisoners (and damage the left occipital of their brains in the process). If you add to corrosive fluoridation the brain damaging Aspartame in soda drinks, you have close to the complete picture: Mass Mind Control of the Sheeple.

Actually the worse problem that causes a knee problems are that wheat, sugar, chlorinated water, tomatoes and aspartame products are some of the most acid forming foods I found, leads to a knee problem. So alkalization and borax will neutralize the inflammation and pain. Acid forming foods are pro-inflammatory.