Adrenal Fatigue Remedies

Bully!! I have adrenal fatigue and have been stuffing down the coconut oil along with steamlining my diet and I DO NOT feel any better! Started this diet of meats, veggies and fruits (all organic which is breaking the bank). I'm sure it's very good for you but it is no magic cure... No better energy within 3 hrs that's for certain... For me anyway

It is characteristic for people with adrenal fatigue that liquids go right straight through them. Taking too much liquids simply washes out your minerals and we all lack them.

Hi girls, I'm sorry for all your problems. For me I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism and mainly on synthetic thyroid hormone and I eventually crashed like most people who take Synthetic T4 and the Drs were telling me I was fine because of the inferior TSH lab, well I was not, I was very Hypothyroid and since they left me like that for about 6 years I had adrenal fatigue also. No Dr told me that I found out by reading on the STOP THE THYROID MADNESS site, it's the best site. I haven't found anything better. I'm doing better and I don't have a fever anymore and my BP is closer to normal. I have better energy. Im on the way to recovery one day at a time. STTM site is all based on research and patient presentation. And yes those mercury amalgams caused me to get Hypothyroidism and you have to get them out safely!!!! And since I've gotten them out my feet aren't in pain anymore. STTM has links to an Adrenal support group and Natural Thyroid group etc. And most of all they have listed the right labs to find out if your hypothyroid and for Adrenal labs to see where your at with your cortisol etc I hope you find help their!!! And my daughter who is Hypo with adrenal fatigue I'm helping her and her TSH lab always comes back normal. Terese :)

Hey Joy.... Thank you so much for your response. I have been reading your posts with interest.... You seem to have a lot going on. I love when you said things were so bad that you called the prayer line.... So reminded me of myself. Keep those posts coming. We all can learn a lot from them. Thanks again, God bless.

Loren: Raw Glandular products are digested as intact proteins that will specifically nourish the identical organ or gland to which they were originated, i.e. Liver, adrenal, kidney, etc. I have been using glandular products for many yrs with noticeable results. I can't speak specifically for adrenal but I would recommend go ahead and try them PLUS other nutritionals or herbs for adrenal like Pantothenic Acid, Tyrosine, and Ginseng.

How many did you take per day? I got mine from a chiropractor too but he wants me to to take 10 per day for the first week and it seems like a lot. I just started yesterday, I took a total of 7. I'm going to up it today to 8 and try that until I get to the recommended 10.

I think that the person who posted on juicing didn't fast but added juice to their diet. I don't know since she hasn't written back. It's been a long time since I posted the reply. And I want to mention that I used to cleanse or fast often before 2012. But this year I never skipped a meal and ate when hungry. I also went for therapy and learned that my anxiety/ low adrenals might be connected to perpetually worrying about the future and the past. I always thought of myself as positive. But there was lots of mind chatter going on, also. My thyroid seems to have normalized since my basal body temperature has come up to normal and I'm not anxious hardly at all anymore. One other thing I've added to my diet is natto, the unfrozen organic kind. I think it has helped to normalize my hormones, also. Reg. the juicing. I have 1 glass fresh most mornings. Another thing that happened with lower stress and never starving my body, is, that I lost those pesky #15 lbs, got down to my ideal weight and don't gain easily like I used to when my body was deprived and holding onto every morsel once I ate again. I think food deprivation causes adrenal stress. To all you fellow yoyo dieters. Watch out, you might be exhausting your adrenals and get further away from achieving your ideal weight!

I love to hear about your experience, this is helpful. I totally agree that food restriction is stressful for the body. For more information read Diet Recovery 2 by Matt Stone. Really interesting read on deprivation and caloric restriction's effects on the body/mind.

Totally agree there's psychological aspect. I read the book of late psychoanalyst Edmund Bergler "Tensions can be reduced to Nuisances" Brillant work. It helped a lot.

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Hi Bill, your informations are just absolutelly correct. I started one week ago with coconut oil internaly 2 tblspoons a day and also topicaly around my back, hips, liver as there is my pain located. The pain is gone but the skin is itchy and I noticed a pimple-rash on the skin. Do you think I should go lower with the dosing or continue?Thanks for your input.

Hi Y'all; My opinion about cortisol replacement is that it is not recommended. (only for dire situations) I suggest to folks considering this protocol, try nutrition and supplementation first. Certainly, reduce and discard toxins and allergens as best you can. Some foods may be problematic at this time, but may be reintroduced with improved digestion. There are many known allergens listed here at EC. (some people are sensitive to sulfur in foods and supplements). Improve digestion: B-complex with addition of sublingual methyl B-12 (for production of HCL). Iodine for concentration of chlorides (acid) in stomach. Individual needs will vary. It could be as low as 2mg daily for sensitive individuals. (maybe less, maybe more). Vitamin C;highest concentrations in the body are located in the adrenal glands. Balance Electrolytes; sodium, potassium, chlorides, bicarbonates, magnesium, and calcium. (high difficulty here, individual needs vary greatly. There is a narrow range for chlorides, although needed, and calcium is usually not to be supplemented because it will be properly placed when the other electrolytes are balanced). Consider Glandulars, ("Mad Cow" cause is entirely dubious). Consider Herbs: many choices, Licorice is very effective, off and on, but it does "waste potassium", so test with caution. Cortisol replacement, even in physiologic amounts, increases the need for the full alphabet of nutrients, and can raise the glucose too high for many individuals. Please reduce stressors and increase nutrients first.

Thank You, Connie

Connie; I agree that nutritionals should be the first line of treatment for Adrenal Insufficency. Personally, I've had to deal with this issue in conjunction with a Hypothyroid condition (low basel temperature) followed by the stress of 3 operations.

Once I'd identified my situation I first started taking Bovine Thyroid 3gn/day, 6 gm/day vitamin C, and recently started taking 2 Licorice Root Extract 380 mg tables in the morning and at noon. This seems to be helping. I have also started Raw Bovine Adrenal 300mg (4.6 gn) which also appears to be helping. I'll give it 3 weeks to stabilize my hormones before I add anything else.

After reading "Safe Uses of Cortisol" I am considering taking 2. 5mg of Cortisol 4X day if I don't see the Adrenal Insuffency moderate on my current regimen.

Tom

Thanks for your experience on lowering fluid intake. How has your health improved????

Because of water retention I try to drink plenty of water but someone else suggested NOT drinking too much water because it does mess with the sodium/potassium ratios just as you've stated! Another solution is a sea salt bath WITH PEROXIDE which helps the body detoxify... Or the baking soda bath WITH PEROXIDE! For whatever reason they seem to provide more energy and clarity throughout the day... Quite possibly balancing the lower sodium to potassium rations perhaps indicative of Adrenal issues! The recipe is 1-2 cups of Baking Soda or Organic Sea Salt to 1 Quart of Hydrogen Peroxide.... Also taken from the curezone ask Moreless forums!

I HAVE BEEN ON HERE BEFORE COMMENTING ABOUT HAVING A CONSTANT A FIB PROBLEM AND THAT I HAVE TRIED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING AND WAS GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THE ADRENALS. I READ THAT THOSE THAT HAVE ADRENAL EXHAUSTION ARE ADVISED TO UP THE SODIUM INTAKE AND MY MINERAL ANALYSIS ALSO INDICATED I WAS LOW IN SODIUM. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A HUGE AVOIDER OF SALT, NO CANNED FOOD ONLY FRESH VEGGIES NEVER SALTED EVER. I AVOIDED SALT LIKE IT WAS POISION AND THEN I READ ABOUT NATURAL SEA SALT AND ALL THE MINERALS THAT WERE IN IT AND READ ABOUT HOW SALT NOT TABLE SALT BUT GOOD QUALITY NATURAL SALT AFFECTS HEARTBEAT AND STARTED TRYING SOME SEA SALT AND IT REALLY SEEMS TO BE HELPING MUCH TO MY SURPRISE. COULD THIS BE THE MAGIC KEY? THE FACT I HAVE AVOIDED SALT AND WENT OUT OF MY WAY NOT TO INGEST ANY SALT AT ANY TIME MAY HAVE CAUSED MY A FIB. COULD IT BE SO SIMPLE? ANY ONE THAT HAS TRIED THIS OR CHECKED IT OUT PLEASE ADVICE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT REALLY SEEMS TO FIT THE PUZZLE. SEA SALT HAS AN ANTI ARRYTHMIC EFFECT AND I AM AS SHOCKED AND SURPRISED AS I CAN GET.

Hi Ron...I've just found and read the original description of your problem on the Atrial Fibrillation age of earth clinic and I'm truly astonished at the similarities between your candida symptoms and mine (the only real difference being that I did not suffer from adrenal fatigue). Here is a description of my symptoms:

I had candida three years ago. My symptoms were psoriasis, eczma, BM and toilet only once every 4 days if I was lucky, tired and sluggish all day, severe grogginess and brainfog in the mornings, bad athletes foot, jock itch(tinea cruris) and overweight. I also regularly caught colds, flu etc many times a year on a regular basis.

This is what I took to cure candida:

* Ted's alkalizing remedies using either whole squeezed lemon/lime or 2 tbspns ACV plus 1/2 tspn baking soda(Arm & Hammer brand) two or three times a day. This is Ted's Alkalizing Remedy and this is THE NUMBER ONE CURE for Candida in my book.

* One tablespoons of virgin coconut oil stirred into my coffee at least 2 - 3 times a day.

* Blackstrap molasses in my coffee, no refined sugar or aspartame sweetener allowed in my diet. BSM also added more potassium to my diet and also helped to balance the extra sodium from using the baking soda.

When I started this remedy at the beginning, I got fairly severe flu-like symptoms for a while -- it almost seemed as if the remedy was making me worse. But this die off or Herxheimer Effect always happens when you get the fungal toxins released into your blood from microbes and fungus from the die off, so think of it as a good sign. Your liver and kidneys are overworked initially, until your immune system can get on top of it. After this die-off it was easy. All my skin problems just disappeared slowly (except the jock itch -- but that's another story) and I haven't had a cold or flu in 2 years.

I must also emphasize that it took a WHOLE YEAR of using these remedies regularly to cure the candida, because any fungal infection is so hard to get rid of, much harder than getting rid of a virus or bacterial infection for sure.

I also took a daily decoction that I made consisting of three herbs just to support my liver, kidneys, blood and immune system throughout this protocol. The 3 herbs were: Tinospora cordifolia, Chanca Piedra (Stonebreaker) and Tumeric root. I gathered the fresh herbs and made the decoction myself(I live in the Philippines). But you can use other simple herbs such as Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Burdock or Liquorice and Ginseng in support just as well.

The reason I started on the magnesium therapy was that, even after curing my candida, occasionally during the day I would suffer strange regular episodes of dizziness from a racing heart. I don't know what that was, but I took magnesium supplements(800 - 1200 mg/day) as well as sprayed my body with Epsom salts as a means of curing this, and was successful. I have also reduced my mag intake accordingly. As a synergistic aid for absorbtion as well as trying to boost my immune system, I now also take mega-doses of Sodium ascorbate(Vitamin C) dissolved in water -- at least 2 - 4 grams per day in split doses.

Your symptoms are remarkably similar to my symptoms, so with enough determination, there is no reason you can't get rid of both your atrial fibrillation roblem as well as your candida, so please don't give up !!

Best regards,

Bill

Here is the rest of the list of products: iodine, dhea, tyrosine, dandelion root tea, milk thistle extract (silymarin) sole from himalayan salt.

One of the most important things is to sleep 5 hours straight without raising your head above your body. It takes 5 hours to completely recharge your adrenals. When you get up they quit charging and start working. The most common problem is going to bathroom a lot at night. If you have this problem, no caffeine 5 hours before bedtime, reduce fluids 2 hours before and take bee propolis.

I think that taking 5 mg of lithium orotate could help your stress levels/anger issues. You can take it twice a day and increase the dosage. It is safe and effective for most anxiety related issues. Dr. John Gray has some You Tube videos about it.

I don't have this book and haven't read it, but based on the excellent info on this person's site which also is in the book and the fact I did my last post's research at this site, someone might want to look into the book itself.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/book/

Please define "chronic use of stevia".

I have used liquid stevia to sweeten my coffee for over a year now and have not had any side effects. I don't think it wise to make blanket statements about side effects. It would be better to make clear that the effects were for that individual.

I personally have had no dizzyness or any other discomfort. It should be taken into consideration as well that if one has eliminated all processed sugars in favor of stevia, you may possibly experience withdrawal symptoms as your body adjusts (which could possibly include dizzyness).

It's also important to note that there are numerous companies producing stevia extracts now and probably not all equal in quality. Just my 2 cents.

I cannot define chronic use of Stevia, but the word "chronic" in medical terms refers to the duration of the problem, such as:

Chronic disease: A disease that persists for a long time. A chronic disease is one lasting 3 months or more, by the definition of the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics. Chronic diseases generally cannot be prevented by vaccines or cured by medication, nor do they just disappear. Eighty-eight percent of Americans over 65 years of age have at least one chronic health condition (as of 1998). Health damaging behaviors - particularly tobacco use, lack of physical activity, and poor eating habits - are major contributors to the leading chronic diseases.

Chronic diseases tend to become more common with age. The leading chronic diseases in developed countries include (in alphabetical order) arthritis, cardiovascular disease such as heart attacks and stroke, cancer such as breast and colon cancer, diabetes, epilepsy and seizures, obesity, and oral health problems. Each of these conditions plague older adults in the US (and other developed nations).

I read your post about adrenal fatigue - what book did you get and supplements did you take exactly - I have had this for YEARS. Stress is finally better, but still taking a long time for me to recover. I am specifically interested in what supplements worked for you. Thank you. Do you think it is the supplements or the coconut oil?

Debra:

Are you saying that for the past 4 years you have been producing no cortisol at all?

Did you have some severe trauma or illness back then that initially caused the cortisol to drop to zero (adrenal failure)?

I looked at the hormone pathways,and producing zero cortisol should be impossible unless perhaps you were initially given Rx cortisone in error, and that shut down your body's production completely! This is well documented medically. I can see your desperation to get off the drug since it could be causing the no cortisone production problem!:

In addition to a chronic underproduction of cortisol, adrenal fatigue syndrome can also be caused or aggravated by corticosteroids ? synthetic hormones like prednisone that are often prescribed for many illnesses in dosages that far exceed the amount of cortisol the body requires.

This heightened level of cortisol can, in effect, shut the adrenal glands down, suppress the immune system, and in some cases bring on ...

It then gives a link to 'find a good doctor' to rebalance, but these are all USA places. There might be affiliates there in Oz?:

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Here are some diagrams showing the anabolic-metabolic
pathway for the hormones, starting with pregnenolone the master hormone:

http://www.networkforhealth.com/images/steroidpathways.jpg

Note in chronic stress that the pathway gets shunted totally away from the DHEA route leading to the sex hormones, in favor of exclusively making cortisol/cortisone!
But in your case, instead of a very high ratio here, you have 0 in the numerator where normally the cortisol number goes!
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http://www.networkforhealth.com/testing.cfm
The result is an elevated cortisol to DHEA ration. This is measurable with the Functional Adrenal Stress profile. Simply divide the cortisol sum by the DHEA(s) average to get the ratio. A normal ratio is approximately 5:1 to 6:1.
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Since pregnenolone is the master hormone, it makes sense that the body disperses its manufacture out over many organs and tissues.
But, cortisol is made exclusively in the adrenal cortex region of the kidneys.

I believe you have a national health plan there in Oz?
If so, try to get a DHEA blood level test to make sure that the pregnenolone hormone is functioning OK or at all, since it is needed for everything.
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Here is a quick note on licorice, but you must get the correct type, and it must not be "deglycyrrhizinated.
Apparently one must also be especially careful of the dosage:
http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_licorice.htm

This is possibly why a condition which medical literature terms as pseudoaldostronosm is brought about in licorice by glycyrrhizin. This condition is similar to the one brought about by excessive secretion of aldosterone which is an adrenal cortex hormone. Excessive quantities of this in the human body can be disastrous. It can lead to high blood pressure and in some cases even heart failure and cardiac arrest. Other symptoms like headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention and excessive excretion of potassium are also seen.
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Its affinity for the endocrine system makes licorice a most remarkable herb, which when used judiciously can be very helpful in treating many human ailments. Licorice has an anti-inflammatory, antiallergic and antiarthritic effect similar to that of cortisone but without its side effects. This is because of glycyrrhizin which has a structure similar to hormones produced by the adrenal glands. Its antiallergic effect makes it very useful in treating allergic rhinitis, hay fever, conjunctivitis and bronchial asthma. Licorice has mild estrogenic properties and can be very helpful during menopause. It gets these properties from the steroid like compounds present in it which can change to estrogen precursors like estradiol and estrone. Licorice can act as a mild laxative and can also relieve indigestion and heartburn by lowering stomach acid levels.

Try earthing/grounding.You will find tons of info on the internet.I'm 82 n no aches

This may be a dumb question, but How are you taking the VCO?? Like straight TBS's (not sure I could do that) or mixing it in something, cooking with it?? I do not drink coffee, but I've heard of putting it in coffee as some sort of a "fat bomb"/laxative, but if it works for adrenal fatigue & joint pain, I'd like to figure out a way to incorporate it in to my daily routine, just not in coffee.

I take a tablespoon of coconut oil right out of the jar every morning. I like to find the ones that taste of coconut, as I like that flavor. It is not difficult at all to swallow. Since I just take 1 T, I have not seen a decrease in joint pain. Maybe I need to increase it to am and pm.

Hi Bill/Mama to Many...I am curious to know what are your thoughts on using hormones like Dhea/pregnonolone? I am now stepping into menopause with thyroid/adrenal issues and even though the thyroid seem to be under control, the adrenal is giving me problems....I have heard a few people rave about dhea and how it helped the adrenals so much during this transition but I am a skeptic and am also very cautious about what I put into my body. Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a million for all you do on this site.

Hey Bill/Robert...thanks guys for your quick replies. Will take your advice and have it checked....you guys are the best and so is this site.

About 7-8 years I was diagnosed of producing too much cortisol, I did all the salavia tests, urine and blood work and that was my diagnosis, I then had a ct scan done and on @ of my adrenal glands I had a small mass, dr told me usually they remove the adrenal gland but I had a mass on each of my adrenal glands therefore could not remove them as a person has to have an adrenal gland to survive. Dr wanted me to go to the state of Maryland to a hospital for testing, said it would not cost me anything, hospital would write it off, the reason they were so interested in my case because usually when someone produces too much cortisol, they have high blood pressure, high sugar, cholestoral etc, and all of my readings were normal and some were excellent. I decided against going, felt like I would be a guinea pig and I feel fine. Are there any supplements I can take that would help this, I am concerned about the masses but also know there is nothing they can do. My local doctor said I could have been born with these masses on my adrenal glands and if he were me do not worry about it, just continue to have blood pressure and sugars tested regular. Any opinions on this. Thank you.

Is this Cushing's Syndrome ?

Are you taking any medications for anything ?

Please update on this. I too have too much cortisol. Thanks!

On youtube there's a dr morse. He has a bunch of video on to heal naturally through nutritional suppplements and food he has some really good advice and teaches along the way this video of his might help....go on his site ..in his search bar type in 329 nit enter ...scroll down to the video parkisons fungus and asthma click the video an advance the time to 40minutes and 30 seconds and watch from there on he talks about how to heal the adrenals and how to fix asthma .I think his explanation will help.

Hi, I am wondering if I have adrenal fatigue as for many years I have had huge amounts of stress that I didn't address until about two years ago when I was diagnosed with hbp... doing all I can to keep that under control but no matter what I do keeping stress at bay is very challenging...

Is there any way to test for adrenal fatigue or get it checked somehow? Do not want to go the conventional doctor route either....Besides what can be done about that? I just started on B vitamins and doing calming exercises and all types of calming .. I also use magnesium and lemons and essential oils... Thank You

Hello Bee from New York,

Re Adrenal fatigue testing;

Yes the whole endocrine system can be evaluated. I had one done fifteen years ago by an alternative MD via Saliva test and sure enough the adrenals were very low. The MD put me on glandular supplements of "raw adrenal" and in a matter of weeks I could tell the difference. I still take the raw adrenal glandular supplements a few times weekly.

I had used raw adrenal caps earlier in my life and they helped then too, but had not been tested at that time for whether the adrenals were deficient; just a shot in the dark.

One raw adrenal I see has an ingredient - Raw Adrenal Tissue (bovine). Is this the ingredient you used?

Hey EC... I really need your input on how safe and effective are adrenal glandulars? I am suffering from adrenal fatigue and am looking into using them but I dont have a clue how they work. Also, a few of my friends are using supplements for poor adrenals/low thyroid from a company called biotics. Any thoughts on this? Thanks guys. Awaiting an early response.

I had Adrenal Cortex Extract injected into my hip weekly when I was at my worst..... It did seem to help in the 80's. I use betafood which has critter components and at first I used 10 a day for a month, felt a lot better. Not sure about my Adrenal supplement. Causes me bloat and burps and once that is over, seem fine. I used a bottle of KELP and it made me feel good.

I would reccommend you read, what your doctor may not tell you about menopause, even if you are not menopausal.... Just for all the medical information. John Lee was an Ob/gyn who loved his patients enough to go agaisnt the status quo. This book covers it ALL........ Love, JOY

Thank you so much Timh for all that information. At least now I feel ok to try them. Do you have any recommendations for adrenal supplements that are not tainted with mad cow disease etc. This is my biggest fear. Thanks a million

Most Raw Glandulars are derived from hormone free, grass fed (free range) cattle in New Zealand or Brazil/Argentina; what we might label as "organic livestock". The manufacturers of the products do not compromise their integrity on the possibility of any livestock that are sick or infected by a disease. The sick animals are not slaughtered and entered into to food production line, they might, however be used as pet food, feed additive, or fertilizer.

Also, most of these Glandular are processed in a way that would kill any harmful organism; and the process of digestion in the human body (stomach acid) further diminishes any possibility of getting sick. So, I suppose no one has ever gotten ill from taking these Raw products.

Thank you so much for your response. I will certainly give it a try. Thank you again.

Hey Joy... You seem to be one courageous gal. Keep it up. At least you are on the right track. I always pray that sick and hurting people find their way to not only TBN but so many shows out there that can provide so much hope for them regardless of what they are facing. Take care and God Bless.

i love adrenal glandulars. I know a lot of people think you shouldn't take them. But they work for me. I started slow. Tried everything else......didn't work. I think the quality is important. I take them with food. I only need one a day. Hope this helps someone.

Can someone tell me if this tin can be ingested in small amounts like it has been suggested of TED, can this be taken in small amounts to recover from adrenal fatigue?

250 Grams of Stannous Chloride Tin (II) Chloride (Hemihydrate)

Licorice, deglycerized, is nice for GI mucosal lining and throat soothing, is a great herb, and if you research it, is really not an herb to take loads of for a long time. It's tough on the liver. Consider in conjunction with well researched natural protocols that provide needed nutrients, natural ant-inflammatory support ( Zyflamend?) and safe gentle ways to optimize eliminative supports ( liver, digestion, respiratory, kidney, skin, with immune support but not stimulation. Look around carefully, cross reference carefully!!!!

If it can't get past your gut, ie be a good fit for ingestion, it stresses the organs. Learning to do Health Dowsing often helps people find what actually fits and in what dosage. Everyone is individual.

How did your metal detox go wrong? I am toxic for heavy metals and considering taking action, but being cautious... would love to hear about your experience.

Yves, How did you find out that you were metal toxic?

How long did you fast for? Was it on and off or the whole time? What kind of detox did you do and what sleeping aid did you use? I have Adrenal fatigue and am just about to go on a juice fast and I've been working with a chinese doctor with great results. He recommended the juice cleanse. I am excited to see someone else get results with juicing. It gives me hope that I am on the right track.

Hi Jaquelynna, I just stumbled upon your response.

I seem to be improving more and more continuing not doing any calorie restiction but not overeating either. I basically eat mostly raw, tons of greens, fruits, some nuts and seeds, chia pudding and natto (not raw), flaxoil... I feel very healthy. There have been several shifts for the better in my digestion, sleep and mood. It seems important that I make sure to eat a minimum of 1600 kcal but I end up around 1800 in average. I'm 5'8" and my waist is 29". I don't push losing weight- not weighing myself for sanity sake- even though my ideal is 1-2 inches smaller, because it's not worth ruining my wellbeing. One thing that makes me sleep like a baby is eating lots of apples. I don't know why but they do.

I've also started to go to sleep early, at 9pm every night to prioritize my health. It's been over a year now that I'm back to sleeping like I did as a child. no more waking up at 2am once or twice a week and not being able to go back to sleep.

I also don't go out to night clubs or overly stimulating activities at night. And I even enjoy reading a book with my hubby instead of a movie. Calms the nerves and keeps cortisol down. Sleep is sooooo important and for free!

Best, Anji

Just tried p-boost after reading some reviews about it. Worked good but pretty pricey. The trial was free but you have to pay for the shipping which was quick. Anyone know any coupon codes for p-boost.com?

Hi Coco... I wrote a much more in depth explanation on the benefits of coconut oil here which might help you:

Coconut Oil Benefits

The only reasons why you might have had such a skin reaction to the coconut oil are:

* Allergy or sensitivity to VCO.

* The skin problems could also be an expression of your detox using VCO.

* An inabilty of the liver to clear out the trash and toxins from the blood which will have an effect on the skin. Your liver is under stress in other words.

When I had systemic candida in my own body, I had psoriasis, eczma, tinea cruris, bad athletes foot as well as a whole host of other awkward problems. And when I cleared up the candida successfully -- everything, including my skin ailments, just disappeared. These were just symptoms or expressions of my own candida problems caused through my acid blood and weakened immune system.

By all means cut down the VCO dose if you think it will help. But I would also simply try and improve your blood quality and blood alkalinity by supporting both your liver and kidneys more. The easiest option for you here is just to take Milk Thistle(1500 mgs twice a day) and Chanca Piedra(1000 mgs twice a day) at mealtimes. Adding Alpha Lipoic Acid(300 mgs twice a day) and Selenium (200 micrograms/day) would also greatly aid in supporting your liver, blood and kidneys. This remedy is essentially a powerful triple anti-oxidant and anti-pathogen remedy which will work to revive the kidneys and liver.

As well, it would also help you if you alkalized your blood(outside mealtimes) using Ted from Bangkok's lemon/lime and Baking Soda remedy. You can check out his alkalizing remedies here on EC:

Ted's Alkalizing Formulas

Finally, since most problems are related to diet, I would try eliminating all dairy products, all wheat products like bread and baked products, sweetners like aspartame, sugar and glucose as well as eliminating MSG (monosodium glutamate) products from your diet for a while to see if this helps you. All these foods tend to greatly acidify the body and weaken the immune system as well.

Hi Bill, thanks for your answer. I am absolutely sure I have no allergies. This is the detox. I have to cut down. All my pains in nerves and lower back are gone first time in 10 years. I feel still anxious after waking up at the morning and need a few hours to calm down. Again the pain is gone and I am on 2 table spoons of coconut oil only about a week. Nothing will stop me to continue, doesn't matter how long it will take. The rash/pimples/ are around my lower back and liver area where I am using it twice a day topically. I believe I am experiencing cleaning. So that's great. Thanks for your advice on the other suplements I hope I can find a decent company-seller who is selling organic as many do not.. Hope to hear from you again.

Hi Coco, how do you apply coconut oil, just rub it into your skin over the liver area and for how long do you keep it? I tried to take it internally, but get pain in the liver area, I guess my liver needs a detox, and hopefully it would also help with my adrenal issues. Thanks!

I am having many symptoms around my digestion... Feeling like I'm not digesting my food or absorbing enough nutrients. I am having a hard time keeping weight on. I am wondering where to begin? Does anyone have any suggestions in terms of doing a parasite cleanse versus a liver flush? Which I should do first and will this tax my adrenals? I have adrenal problems and am concerned about this... Thanks!

Had a similar situation but unable to connect the dots went on with my life as a vegetarian since meat seemed to give the most distress. As it turned out it was poor food combining with meat that was the problem. Not that I didn't have a serious digestive problem but the lack of knowledge about the proper combinations of foods to eat or not with each other, brought on a wrongful action. I did go back to meat 13 yrs later when my body begged for it. I did however still have poor digestive ability. To get to the main point, my neck was out of alignment at the 1st and 2nd vertibrae causing my brain stem to touch and suppress the nerve signals going to my entire digestive tract. That touching shut down the whole system. 20 years later saw a NUCCA chiroprator. After adjustment hungry again for first time in decades. May want to get your neck and spine aligned.

Hello: I went for years spending money on top-of-the-line supplements and foods wondering why excellent nutrition wasn't working to restore my health. It's possible that because of conditions you have, nutrition is going from your mouth to the toilet without any stops in-between. Please consider checking out the following and eliminate them as the source of your problems: gluten intolerance (or possibly Celiac), leaky gut syndrome, food allergies. Gluten intolerance manifests in many ways: distended belly after eating offending foods, aches and pains in joints/muscles, etc. You can find ample information about these conditions on this website.

I had the same condition and used a Chinese Herbal formula for digestion - they have a few out there, do an internet search to suit your problem (eg. Abdominal swelling, pain, diahorrea or constipation, unable to digest meat/protein properly, unable to digest wheat... ) It stopped my diahorroea and I have put on 10kg.

I lost a vast amount of weight for 2 years. Towards the end, I started taking my glucose at the nurse's office at school. I did not know it, but I was diabetic, type 1. Very unusual at age 42. That is why no one could figure it out. It was adult onset and I was very thin, not overweight. Get a glucose test done ASAP.

Answer about origin of post

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The text comes from a post from sicknesshope.com i. E.

I know this because I post on that website (and as well as in curezone and many of my posts are on pH balance).

Unlike curezone or earthclinic, people cannot view the post unless registered. Which is a very simple process.

The post and thread relates to the importance of the potassium/sodium ratio.

However there is more. Of importance are the other ingredients of the "Moreless alkalizing drink" i.e. BSM, kelp, ACV, Epsom salt and calcium hydroxide.

I, myself, referred some of my posts in EC to the older AskMoreless forum in curezone.

And lastly, FYI, I was introduced to pH balance with Dr R. Young's books. Later I found Ted's formulas. And later I found the Ask Moreless forum. I can say that I learned a lot from Moreless. His alkalizing drink, which was developed 4-5 years ago, is IMO the best. Moreless knew Dr. Carey Reams, the creator of Reams Biological Theory of Ionization (RBTI). http://www.Newtreatments.org/reams

Anyway, I wanted to let EC know where the original post came from and why I know it.

Thanks again EC for your website.

Alain from Ottawa
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To Faithinhealing -- I suggest that the amount of water being consumed may be the real problem as I have had a similar difficulty. Last summer I fainted and was found to have a very low serum sodium level. When I got out of the hospital, a month or two later, I thought I'd cured myself with sea salt and blackstrap molasses for my low hemoglobin that had also been found. This summer both of these blood levels are low again and I went to an endocrinologist to get her insights. Turns out after reducing my liquid intake dramatically for 6 days (one to two quarts total liquid including btw all juices as well) my strength seemed to be returning and in fact the blood level of sodium was up to 131 from 127. This Wednesday the level will be checked again (2 weeks more now on the reduced liquid) - we'll see. Low thyroid or cancer may also be involved based on the SIADH diagnosis - but we'll see. Perhaps just the much too high intake of liquid is the whole issue. Normal intake should be much more in the range of half your weight in ounces of water per day. 180 pounds - then 90 ounces.

Latest 2 week update - After the two additional weeks on the reduced liquid intake, my sodium has risen to the normal zone - 136 and my red blood cells are also normal now. My hemoglobin and my hematocrit have continued to rise and are closer to normal.

I am only suggesting that it may be simply too much water intake leads to excretion of sodium, and correcting to a much reduced fluid intake may allow the sodium levels in the blood to return to normal.

Adrenal Fatigue Question

I am curious to know anyone's feedback regarding my lethargy issues. I am a 42 yr. old female. I am hypothyroid and was also told by an endo. I have Hashimotos. I take the synthetic thyroid med. and also do lots of supplements thanks to the helpful info here on EC and also iherb. I am also a vegetarian (lacto-ovo)

My mornings start out fine, but by 1:00 I get really fatigued and getting things done is laborious and difficult. My mood plummets and I become stuck in this negative low energy rut, physically and mentally. I rely on coffee late afternoon for a jump start, (and have for 4 years since my twins were born.) I was taking a green tea extract with 100 mg. of caffeine which helped quite a bit, but i think Ted said that flouride in green tea can be harmful for the thyroid..? so have since stopped. I am a busy mom, but I can't imagine these feelings of being overwhelmed day in and out are normal.

After reading about adrenal burnout, I believe I may have it. My father died at the young age of 52 from adrenal cancer. I don't really have the $ at the moment to order one of the saliva tests. I found a product which gets really rave reviews and am wondering if this is something that would be beneficial. If I take it with my other supplements which also have B6, can that be too much? Also, I notice some people are wary of licorice root?

Here are the list of ingredients in it>
Vitamin C
Vitamin B6
Pantothenic Acid
Adrenal Polypeptide Fractions
Betaine
L-Tyrosine
Licorice Root and Rhizome Extract
Adrenal Cortex Extract

Thank you so much in advance for any input you have. This is my first post, but I have been on EC for about 6 months now. I am in awe of all the wisdom, knowledge and info. available here on EC.

~blessed be~

I'm also 42 & have Hashimoto's. Your post says you take Synthroid. Have you ever tried a medication made from dessicated porcine (pig) thyroid gland? Synthroid is a synthetic T4 hormone replacement. T4 is the storage form of thyroid hormone. In an ideal situation your body will convert the T4 to T3, which is the active hormone. If your body isn't doing the conversion well it could explain your continued fatigue. Dessicated thyroid contains both T4 & T3. The boost of T3 made a huge difference in my fatigue. I purchase mine from a compounding pharmacy as prescribed by my doctor.

Tami-thanks for the helpful info about the T3. Only problem is I'm a vegetarian, so don't want to ingest from the pig. (ironically enough, I'm fostering a piglet right now!)

Emily, Aww, so sweet of you to foster a little piglet. Cytomel is synthetic T3 and can be taken in conjunction with Synthroid.

To anyone else looking in to this, there is an excellent book by Lynn Farrow about iodine and adrenal/hormonal health, and a website or two- even a FB page- dedicated to iodine and how to deal with adrenals before slowly coming off synthroid et al., by using Lugol's.

Hope someone can help me with adrenal fatigue. Would oil pulling have any effect for a severe case of adrenal fatigue? I have been suffering with this for the past 4 years. I take 4 different antidepressants and wondered if this would create a problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Melissa, for severe adrenal fatigue I would get licorice root solid extract (Tahoma Clinic is the only one that carries it to my knowledge), and take 1/2 teas. in a little water 3 times a day. Take for one week on, three weeks off. Go to bed by 9:00 p.m. every night. Stay away from sugar and caffeine. Find out what the root cause is (mine was 8 large mercury fillings I had in for 30 years) and remove it, by a safe amalgam removal dentist. Don't do vigorous exercise. Oil pulling might help somewhat, but not without the other stuff. E-mail me if you need more info. Best wishes.

Gean: thanks for the quick response. I will definitely try your suggestions. Do you happen to know if there would be contraindications with my 4 antidepressants? I also need to know if the medications should be taken before or after with oil pulling (if I am able to do the OP). Thanks so much!

I don't have much experience with oil pulling - tried it once or twice only - but from what I've read it should be done on an empty stomach, so I would oil pull first thing in AM and do your meds after. I'm afraid I don't have any insight on whether licorice root goes with the antidepressants, and medical doctors seldom can tell you whether the two work or don't work together, but if it was me I would go ahead and do licorice root along with the other meds, but space them out so one is not on top of the other. Like maybe at least 1/2 to 1 hr. apart. Licorice actually has antidepressant properties and is also good for ulcers, canker sores, and inflammation. It will raise blood pressure and long-term use will deplete the body of potassium, hence the 1 week on, 3 weeks off schedule.

Hi everyone Can anyone recommend a safe adrenal supplement. My doc wants me to start using some but i am sceptical because they are made with animal products and i am scared of mad cow disease. Help please!!

Loren - try Licorice Root extract. It's an excellent dietary supplement for adrenal fatigue. My adrenals were taxed out at one point but after taking it - my energy levels picked up. But also diet/nutrition plays a big role. Try to get a lot of greens in. You'll feel ten times better!

Hi Loren, I have a supplement here without animal products in it. If EC will allow me to name it, it is "Christopher's Adrenal Formula". It contains mullein leaves, licorice root, eleuthero root, gotu kola, hawthorn berries, lobelia, cayenne pepper, and ginger root, in a vegetable-based capsule. You're supposed to take 2 caps 3 times a day (that could get pricey). Funnily enough the bottle has 50 caps; you'd think they'd even it up to 60 to match the suggested dosages!

Unfortunately I can't give you any testimony as to its effectiveness as I've only taken it sporadically, since my main focus has been working on my Hashimoto's with other things. Bear in mind that herbals do take time to be effective and you might have to take something for months to really know if it's working for you. I see lots of other good recommendations here for adrenal fatigue as well...certainly consider trying some of those as well as a supplement like this one. Best of luck, and if it works, please do let us know!

Thanks for that information on what type of licorice to use. Any suggestions on what adrenal glandulars are safe to use? Thanks

Loren - if you're apprehensive about licorice - consider a supplement called Basic Preventive. It's made by Douglas Labs. They're supplements are pretty high quality. They make them in different versions (ie copper/iron free, glandular based, chelated, etc) The labels read as BP 1,2,3,4,5. Each one has similar yet diff ingredients. Though pricey - I can attest its potency. I took them to help me with an inner ear problem. Definitely gave me a lot of energy and got rid of my brain fog. Only caveat is the pills are BIG and you have to take anywhere btw 6-9 a day (depending on which version u buy).

The purpose of the adrenals, usually bovine, is to give your own adrenals a rest and time to rebuild. This can take several years of eating healthy (that means no alcohol, coffee, sugar or white refined flours)Lots of greens and adequate protein. But use the adrenal fractions only for a period of time I took it for a year, then when you are no longer as stressed take herbal support.

I have found Rhodiola to be excellent for adrenal support. I also use ginseng, licorice and schizandra.

Hi T & Tavora: Thank you guys so much for yr feedback. Ireally do appreciate it. Here's the deal though. Most of the stuff T recommended i am currently using. It did help but not greatly. I have been using these for about 2months. I'll still continue though. As for the licorice-Tavora if you google side effects of licorice its pretty scary. I know many people swear by it but i am really scared to use it. Any other feedback will be appreciated.

do some research on Maca and Ashwagandha.. both considered adaptogens & reported to help with adrenal fatigue

don't use deglycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL) for adrenal fatigue as the glycyrrhizinated component is the thing that blocks the cortitsol reducing enzyme. the whole reason for taking it is to increase cortisol by preventing its breakdown..

Hi. This is my first time post on this site but I have been perusing this site for quite some time and find this site extremely valuable to people like me and others who want to find alternative measures to ones health issues. I also tried Licorice for my adrenal exaustion but also am concerned about the risks for longer term use. Licorice DID help me but I believe I have found something else which is helping me just as well and has similar methods of action in that it keeps the level of cortisol in your system longer since I suffer from low cortisol. It's a TCM herb called Rehmannia and apparently does not have the risk of raising blood pressure like Licorice can. Apparently it is a very commen herb in TCM given to people with adrenal and kidney issues.

Just a bit of background about my issues. I have been suffering from atypical depression and adrenal exaustion for quite some time. I believe my depression stems mainly from my sub optimal adrenal function. I "used to" drink 3 to 4 cups of stong coffee every day just to get me going. I gave up coffee totally about 4 months ago and it's been a stuggle ever since but I know the caffeine is the worst thing I can have for my low functioning adrenals. The stimilating effect kept my depression at bay but certainly not a long term solution to my problem. I'm really just sick and tired of being sick and tired and any other input would be greatly appreciated. No I am not suicidal so relax LOL.

I would like to ask Ted a few questions if he has the time to answer. Number one, why is it when I take a high B-complex or even just Brewers Yeast that it makes my fatigue and depression worse? Could it be a particular B-vitamin in the complex that makes it worse? Higher dose Vitamin C has the same effect with me. It could be from a detox reaction but I have read that higher dose C can lower cortisol? Is this correct? I certainly don't want lower cortisol. Also, I have a question about melatonin. My circadian rythem must be out of whack. I haven't had a good 8 or 9 hours of sleep a night for many years and the crazy thing is.. Even though I am fatigued during the day I don't feel like I need any sleep if that makes any sense. I'm willing to try melatonin to see if it helps but I also read where even taking 1mg is many more times the amount of melatonin that is secreted normally at night to sleep. Should I try this at a very low dose and only for a short time as to not down regulate normal production of it? My other question has to do with sleep deprivation and it lifting depression. I tried this a number of years ago and it worked for me albeit only for a very short time. Ted do you know the mechanism of action for this? Increased cortisol, or dopamine, or norepinephrine or all 3 that lifted my depression? It was like a light switch went on in my brain.. It was intantaneous and no I am not bipolar nor manic depressive. Ok just one last question.. Sorry... I guess it has been more than a few LOL. Cold Showers DO seem to help give me more energy and relieve my depression but do they exaust the adrenals further for someone like me with adrenal exaustion? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Randy

Dear Ron: Just a thought... often when people have adrenal problems they are also hypothyroid. If your body temps are low you could have this problem. It doesn't necessarily show up on blood tests. Wilson's temperature syndrome website is a wonderful resource. Apparently in the old days hypothroidism was diagnosed by low body temps and depression. A good book is Hypothyroidism the hidden illness, by Dr. Brody Barns.

Hope this helps you.
Mary

Ron, it's a tough one...so many possible paths to take..
addressing the anger would be a great place to start..finding a good
therapist is difficult...(then we get angry at the money we throw at them :))
guided imagery may help as well..
as for the supplements I have had some success lately with a combination of Cordyceps and Korean Red Ginseng. (asian ginseng) Do your own research.
Be careful to purchase a quality brand..Ginseng is recommended for adrenal balancing
especially for men, though can possibly be overstimulating...hard to say how your body will react. (other herbs etc, Ashwaghanda, Magnesium, walking, breathing exercises, eating well, no caffeine! no alcohol..filtered water...positive friends)

I have researched and believe I may have adrenal fatigue also. I have low blood pressure and low temp along with heart palpitations and fog brain also experience aches in shoulders. I found it interesting to hear that someone else other than I also is not much of a salt eater. I avoid salt also and it maybe a cause among others for adrenal fatigue. I also take B complex with vit c and still feel worn out. I feel a little better taking a multi vit and calcium with Magnesium, but still am extremely tired by 3pm. By 3 I feel like the day should just be over and time for bed. I am still searching for something to kick start me come mid afternoon. Any ideas??

It's interesting to read all the comments on adrenal fatigue. I am going through menopause. I have fibromyalgia, adrenal fatigue, low blood sugar, palpitations, candida yeast and numerous symptoms that are really ruining my zest for life. I'm in constant pain. I have been tested for many things including thyroid. I'm sure thyroid is a problem though nothing shows up on the blood tests except low B12 anemia and low salt. In fact I get charlie horses if I don't make a point of consuming salt. I haven't been able to exercise because of muscle cramping. The one thing that has helped in the past is to go on a low carb diet was mostly meat, eggs and cheese with green vegetables and other low carb veggies. It totally excludes grain products. I felt better eating this way than any other. B vitamins also help. My life are been an extremely stressful one due to numerous tragedies and it has just taken a toll on my body. I had hot flashes and DHEA helps with that. Does anyone have any solution for the muscle and joint pain? I'm beginning to feel like a hypochrondriac! Any other suggestions would be appreciated. This has to be all tied together. I just don't know how.

Hi Cowgirl,

You mention among all your other ailments that you have candida yeast. I don't know if you mean localized like a vaginal infection or what, but all your symptoms and problems sound like systemic candida. Candida attacks the adrenals and thyroids causing untold misery and yet MDs continue to blow off the symptoms as "all in your head" and regard you as a raging hypochondriac. I have researched candida extensively and believe that when you clear up the candida the "other" problems will clear up also. The best thing I have found for treating systemic candida is a commercial product that I can't mention here, but it is a special probiotic developed in Japan. It contains bacteria that are different than your usual probiotic because these bacteria eat the yeast rathering than just crowding it out. Do a google search on candida and when you find the same stuff mentioned on a number sites, you'll know you've found the right thing.

Hi Ron...The combination of your atrial fib and adrenal fatigue problem might well point to a Magnesium deficiency, since magnesium is a very important electrolyte in your body -- it regulates both the calcium in your bones and tissues as well as the potassium which is balanced by sodium. Magnesium is used and is necessary in over 300 enzyme processes in your body, so Lord knows what else it would cure if you were deficient of this mineral as most of us are. Taking Magnesium is also known to vitally regulate and improve arrythmia and tachycardia in heart conditions. The best magnesium salts to take internally are mag chloride, mag citrate, mag gluconate and mag sulphate(Epsom salts) forms. The dosages recommended for deficiency are anywhere from 800 - 1200 mg of magnesium -- but too much magnesium will generally cause diarrhea -- so, if this happens, just cut back the dosage and continue. I refer to drink 1/4 teasoon of mag sulhate(Epsom salts) in half a glass of water two or three times a day. Magnesium is also known to be a major neural influence on the relaxation part of muscle operation(including heart muscle operation), so if you are deficient magnesium, your muscles would be tense(whose neural influence is governed by calcium).

But the quickest way to up your Mag levels is simply to take a bath at least 2-3 times a week and add 2-3 cups of Epsom salts or mag chloride to the bath water. Stay in the bath for at least half an hour. Your body will quickly absorb what magnesium it needs and in larger amounts than supplementing which sometimes causes diarrhea issues. I simply spray myself after my shower with a small garden sprayer that contains 1 tbspn of Epsom Salts to 8 oz of water(I don't have a bath in my house). I let it just dry and be absorbed by my body. For more info on magnesium, check out these links, which I hope will further interest and convince you as to the uselfulness of magnesium as related to your problems:

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/magnesium.html

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/transdermal-magnesium-therapy.html

http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=49&db=5&C0=74

I'm a 60 year old who has very few problems medically now, either with my body or with stress. But it wasn't always like this. I had candida for 7 years due to my own stressful job I think, and it took me a year of using Ted's alkalizing protocols to get rid of this. Now, free of intestinal candida, I have a phenomenal amount of energy and a much happier outlook. I would, therefore, recommend and urge that you use Ted's alkalizing remedies every day. See this link here for the remedies:

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/alkalizing_formulas.html

I've used all of Ted's alkalizing remedies and I still use them, they simply work as described.

Regarding your anger problems, these might relate to problems in your past. The Traditional Chinese Medical system approach believes that anger and love are both ruled by the liver/kidneys region and since you have adrenal fatigue(kidneys) this could well be affecting you emotionally, causing a hormonal/energy imbalance. Liqourice and sea salt are very good for the intestines and kidney, but I would deliberately add another supplement like Milk Thistle to directly target liver improvement. Once you liver and kidneys are healthy again, your blood and hormone levels should both also improve, and there should be a noticeable improvement in your health and outlook on life.

All the best,

Bill

Well I have to agree with you because of my experience. I had suspected that I was having problems with candida and because I brought into the spit test I did nothing about it. Each time I did the spit test it was perfect. My stomach kept getting bigger and I didn't know why. One night I threw up a big piece of candida with streamers. Have been treating for candida and my stomach is getting smaller. Hopefully these posts will help to dis-spell some of the the dis-information going around.

Phoenix, thank you for the information about the origin of the spit test. I had rather assumed it originated with Dr. Crook. If it is not reliable, then better to go with the survey-type tests that calculate a score based on symptoms.

As to your assertion that true candidiasis is rare and the inclusion of medical studies that appear to support this--for every study you come up with, I can come up with two that say the contrary. However, I don't want to waste space here on dueling medical studies. That is not what this site is about. While most of mainstream medicine continues to scoff at the concept of systemic candida (as your post illustrates) people who have gone from doctor to doctor in a desperate search for relief from their aches, pains and misery have figured out how to cure themselves and get their lives back. They are sharing how they did it. THAT is what this site is about.

Hi The_Phoenix,

Your right about why dis-information gets passed along. I don't think all those who sell remedies for candida have that motive but I do think there are those who should of taken the time to verify the information before using it. I being neither of these and being my own doctor and researcher do the best I can.

As far as blood test and other medical test I am all for them as they can take the guess work out of treatment. The problem in the United States is that many of us do not have the resources or co-operation of some of our doctors to do these test. So if we want to get well we take responsibility for our own health which we should anyway.

Thanks for all your posting and input. It is much appreciated. Keep up the good work.

Azithromycin

I came down with something a while back and was given three huge Azithromycin tablets, one per day, three days. I have not felt so good, so normal, in my life (except when I did an olive oil liver cleanse). Unfortunately, I made the mistake of taking a laxative the last day, and it seemed to eliminate the medication. I have chronic fatigue, constipation, indigestion, cold hands and feet, forgetfulness, gluten/dairy/sugar intolerance, and lately leg and foot pain when I lay down at night. I eat mainly plain yogurt (avoid additives, even pectin), organic green apples, fresh lime/lemon juice, dry apricots, fresh vegetable juices, chlorophyll/algae capsules, a really good multi-vitamin, started on horse chestnut capsules and glucosamine/chrondroiten/msm. Digestive enzymes help a lot, I can feel when I take them. Apple cidar vinegar, sodium bicarbonate, distilled or reverse osmosis water, basil/chamomile/catnip tea, teas for PMS, dandylion root tea. Getting enough sleep really helps with mood and memory. Chamomile tea, valerian root, and Swedish Bitters help with sleep and waking up feeling refreshed. If you wake up tired, try drinking a glass of water and laying back down for a bit. Avoid additives, especially MSG type, eat organic and raw whenever possible. Don't smoke, drink, or do illicit drugs. Coffee and alcohol will prevent you from sleeping properly. I feel differently every day, but lately much improved. Thank you, EarthClinic contributors, for providing such a helpful site, you are all a huge blessing.

I had adrenal exhaustion was a truck driver for 14 years studied alternative medicine for 15 years. Doing great today. Almost every one makes the mistake of trying to treat the symptoms like adrenal exhaustion and what you must do is treat the whole body. We are very complex and systems are dependent on each other. You must treat the hypothalumus and the thyroid and the parathyroid the adrenals and the liver. I will give you a list of herbs and supplements to do all the above and will let you research them and why they are so helpful. Herbs-cordyceps, full spectrum licorice and maca, fresh royal jelly Vitamins- vit c, b-complex, panothenic acid

I agree with treating the whole body... For me using 3 T. Of coconut oil a day... Kelp... Bee pollen (pantothenic acid)... aceola powder (vitamin c)....1/2 lemon squeezed in hot water first thing in the morning and before bed... Raw garlic (adaptogen)... And tumeric (helps cleanse the liver and great for adrenals and helps decrease toxic estrogenics in the body)... And himalayan sea salt all seem to help me remineralize and rebuild my immune system. I might also add that unsulphured black strap molasses also helps to provide the minerals... In addition to kelp and sea salt... All great for remineralizing!

Tried to change the subject of this message, but I can change it from SUPPLEMENTS. I never got a cortisol or saliva test, but I am sure that I have been suffering on and off with this for a couple of years. The symptoms, sleeping half the day, drinking pots of coffee with no result, aching joins, night sweats, brain fog etc. This resulted from a long period of stress and anxiety coupled with a processed foods diet.

I had a swollen Thyroid a couple years ago, as well. Kelp with natural iodine really helped that. Iodine is what your body makes thyridozine out of, and your body mistakes flouride for it.

The book, "The Mood Cure" really helped me to understand. All of these different hormones, including sarotonin, are made in the body by converting different amino acids.

L-Tyrosine supplements almost basically cured my adrenal symptoms within a couple of days. I was also told that I had polycystic ovaries, causing my menstruation to cease. This came back and has been regular since. Half of your sex hormones are made in your adrenal glands until old age, when all of them are instead of your genitals.

L-Tyrosine and L-Carnitine are amino acids that are listed as ingredients in popular energy drinks. This is why they give such an energy effect. It is nourishing.

I just wish I knew of specific foods that are rich in these. I've just done my best to get free-range meats and eat all natural and do some healthy yoga-type exercises.

But, I've been under a lot of stress lately and haven't taken L-Tyrosine. I can tell I need to again.

I agree that everything is part of the whole body. I have adrenal fatigue in addition to a bunch of other stuff. My chiro said it best "There's only one disease. The Brain is not controlling the body properly." I couldn't agree more. I recently found a vitamin kit online that is smell sensitive. The vitamins are numbered 1-20 and I did NOT look at the individual names just to see if what I was deficient in (by smelling you can tell)... Was what went along with my diagnosis (Lyme, low DHEA, adrenal, thyroid, etc. ). And guess what the vitamins that I needed the most based on smell were all the B-vitamins except for b12 because I was taking 5grams a day of this already. I especially needed B5 pantothenic acid.

Anyway I also take Rhodiola and 5htp for good nights sleep. Sleep is so important and that's one way for the adrenals to get restored.

What I've learned (which is contrary to modern medicine) is that when people are in chronic pain... There are usually MANY, MANY systems out of whack. My gut, adrenals, immune system, joints, neurological, etc. This affects that which affects this which affects that. Slowly but surely I'm addressing each and am feeling better. Am I at 100%, no. But it took years to get to this "messed up" stage and it's going to take some time to get out.

I also maintain a positive attitude and try to meditate and read psychoanalytic books that help with stress. It's a slow process but I already am feeling much better than I have in over 2 years! Good things can happen, you just have to be committed. :) and positive no matter what!

June, how were you diagnosed with adrenal fatigue? It's been suspected for me, and I'm waiting for some test results. However, I also noticed that some of your symptoms, and comment on fibromyalgia, made me think of Lyme disease. SO much is not known about lingering cases or chronic Lyme, and many think that it is often incorrectly diagnosed as fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue, even M.S. and Alzheimers. Some of your remedies are similar to things I've used for Lyme disease.

Unfortunately, the testing for Lyme is MAYBE 75% accurate, cases are often not diagnosed and reported if doctors think "It's not in this state", perpetuating that myth, and there are people who have wondered what is wrong with them for years, only to be told by standard medical testing that they're "fine". I was finally diagnosed, 9 years after classic symptoms and a negative test, and 5 years after another negative test. My 1st test this year was 'negative', (after being on antibiotics, which I think can affect the results), my insistence on another led to a positive test and acknowledgement of this disease. The author, Amy Tan, had it for 8-10 yrs before she was diagnosed, http://www.amytan.net/LymeDisease.aspx

and an M.D. in Maryland, Dr. Singleton had it for 8 years before his diagnosis, and was told he had fibromyalgia

http://www.lymedoctor.com/index.html (page 2-3 of his Introduction in his book can be viewed).

The tick is the size of a sesame seed, often not seen, and not everyone gets the bullseye rash. Even the CDC says there may be 10x more cases than known.

Many symptoms are also symptoms of other diseases or disorders.

From Fatigued to Fantastic by Jacob Teitelbaum and Adrenal Fatigue, 21st Century Stress Syndrome by James L. Wilson are 2 books that have some very helpful info on Adrenal fatigue and fibromyalgia.

Dr Teitlebaum is a Fantastic doctor and a great humanitarian; his website (EndFatique. com) offers a very good FREE diagnostic program (and a very extensive one too for a reasonable fee) that is effectively sorts out fatigue issues of all types/causes... and it provides specific treatment recomendations for BOTH natural products and RX's, (AND various alternatives for people on a tight budget). The results can be printed out easily, along WITH a professional referral letter to your personal doctor containing his diagnostic criteria/results and the various treatments he recommends for YOU specifically. This alone can save you hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in Dr visit & referral fees; and is extremely helpful if you have complex issues! If you already have some lab tests, you can plug that data in as well!

do you know if you have a QRA Practitioner (Quantum Reflex Analysis) in your area? That is something you may want to look into.

LICORICE: I'm in a DIRE state of adrenal exhaustion due to serious stages of Systemic Lupus. Sys. Lupus is probably the most serious adrenal exhaustion disease in existence. I have tried EVERYTHING over the last 15 years. Regular Dhea definitely gives alot of cortisol but also testosterone which I dont want. It can get as many unwanted side effects as chemical steroids which I've also tried to avoid throughout my illness. I do take 7-keto but with little results.

MY QUESTION: I recently have gone to LICORICE which I prefer... But I must take ALOT of capsules to get any benefit. No side effects that I've noticed but how can I get the BEST results from Licorice?? WHAT COMPONENT is in LICORICE that seems to soothe my adrenal inflamation and severe exhaustion?? And HOW DO I GET THE BEST OF THE BEST of what I need??

I'm looking at long term use and want to avoid any side effects from long term. I have no high blood pressure issues normally, thank God. So I hope to keep it that way. ANY HELP WOULD BE SO APPRECIATED... My condition really is desperate. ( I've spent years in Western medicine and Holistic and have tried EVERYTHING for all my symptoms.)

I also tried Maca years ago when it became popular but didn't see results. Rhodiola Rosea as well as Magnolia I've also tried. Was on all three for a couple of years. Maybe I didn't give them a long enough chance. Thanks greatly....jacquelyn