Natural Cures for Pyoderma in Dogs

Last Modified on Nov 25, 2014

Pyoderma is not an uncommon condition among dogs. It is a staph or other bacterial infection that targets wounds on your dog's skin, resulting in deep or superficial accumulations of pus beneath the skin.

Symptoms: In addition to the pus-filled reservoirs, pyoderma may initially present as a rash that may or may not itch. The skin may crust over, hair loss may result, and the skin may be inflamed. Pus may accumulate in small pustules, possibly around hair follicules, or may be much larger.

Natural Pet Remedies: Antibiotic treatment is standard for pyoderma in dogs, whether ingested or topical. Any natural antibiotic you trust for use with your pet may be effective. Garlic is one (controversial) option. Ted recommends a paste of borax and baking soda (see below). Frequent bathing is also advised.

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Posted by Jackie (Yaxley, Peterborough, United Kingdom) on 06/13/2013

[YEA]  I have recently spent over £1,500 having surgery on my dog for a lip fold pyoderma. She is 12 years old and I thought it was her last chance. It came back almost straight away and I was so stressed as I didn't want to have her put down, but didn't have the money for procedures that the vet suggested. As a last resort I looked into a natural cure and by chance found this site. People on here seemed to recommend natural coconut oil and/or Allicin. I don't know which cured my dog, but within a week of using both these (relatively cheap alternatives) my dog is not only cured but fitter than she has ever been. Thank you so much to those of you who posted these remedies. Without you my dog would no longer be here.

Posted by Jen
Ireland
03/18/2014
[NAY]   Hi everyone... My golden cocker spaniel has been suffering with lipfold pyoderma for nearly one year. I've tried a lot of natural remedies but I just couldn't keep it at bay. I tried all of these methods for several months before changing to a new method. The main symptoms were oozing wound, stinky lips, rubbing her lips off couches etc. After drinking water the moisture seemed to gather in the folds. If I didn't bathe it twice daily there would be yellowish puss. So I tried:

Cider apple vinegar and warm water wash using muslin cloth X2 daily..dried with soft tissue and followed with organic coconut oil.

Same as above but using Himalayan salt in warm water (instead of cider apple vinegar).

Same as above but used a few drops of MILTON sterilising fluid.

Same as above but using anti-bacterial soap.

Then I tried germolene instead of coconut oil.

Then I tried Sudocreme instead of Coconut oil.

Then I tried to keep the area dry so did no washing and just wiped with a sensitive pet wipe with a small amount of tea tree oil spray on wipe.

I brought her to the vet and he said it was just her breed so he gave her an injection (steroids?) and anti biotic tablets. This didn't clear it and it seemed even worse a few weeks later.

Then..recently I got some cream for MY nose after having blood vessels cauterised. When I read up about it it mentioned that it killed the Staph bacteria which I knew was linked to lipfold pyoderma. I tried it with my dog by wiping a small amount into the lip fold using a Q-Tip twice daily. Within one week it was totally cured. Her lip is dry and clean with no bad smell. The wound is now sealed over and pink like scarred skin. She seems much happier and more comfortable. I am not a vet or doctor and I know human medicines shouldn't really be used on dogs but I was soooooooo happy to find a cream that worked that I just thought I'd share it with other dog owners.

The cream is called Naseptin: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ear-nose-and-throat/medicines/naseptin-nasal-cream.html

Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
03/19/2014
546 Posts
Hey Jen!

Thank you so much for sharing your journey of healing for your golden cocker!

I had to take some time to review what you used:

Milton = an aqueous solution of sodium hypochlorite and 16.5% sodium chloride [cream strength of 2% sodium hypochlorite]: this is a sort of bleach/MMS.

Germolene = Phenol [carbolic acid] 1.2% and chlorhexidine digluconate 0.25%

Sudocrem = zinc oxide, benzyl benzoate and benzyl cinnamate [these ingredients are formulated to kill mites and other ectoparasites]

All these have all the right stuff - in theory - to knock out the lip fold pyoderma, but did not. the Germolene has the chlorhexidine as does the product that worked for you, but failed to do the trick in this formulation.

What did work for you was the Naseptin - Sourced from link in original post:

Naseptin = chlorhexidine hydrochloride and neomycin sulphate.

"Chlorhexidine gluconate has an antiseptic effect against a wide range of bacteria, yeasts, and some fungi and viruses. It kills the micro-organisms associated with various mild infections of the skin.

Neomycin sulphate is an antibiotic of the aminoglycoside type. It kills bacteria so is described as bactericidal in action. It works by entering bacterial cells and interfering with the production of proteins that the bacteria need to divide and multiply. This rapidly kills the bacteria.

This combination of ingredients is used to eradicate a type of bacteria called staphylococci from the inside of the nose. The cream is applied inside the nostrils both to treat and prevent nasal infections with this type of bacteria."

So it took combining the chlorhexidine with the neomycin to knock out the staph infection in your dog.

It appears this product is only available in the UK -darn it, as I would love to try it out on a few of mine! For those in the US the alternative remedy would be Ted's Anti-fungal/anti-staph solution, followed up with a OTC neomycin ointment.

Thanks so much for sharing!!

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Posted by Ronnie (Hudson Valley, Ny) on 11/25/2014

[YEA]  The coconut oil has natural anti-bacterial apply, wait 5 minutes - then Vaseline - locks in moisture and prevents itching from pyroderma.

Also make sure you wash bedding with no perfume/sensitive detergent. After 5 months of trying to treat a retired nursing dog, 4 vet trips and frustration with pills, ointments - this actually works!!!

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Posted by Pugsrule (Seabeck, Wa) on 06/21/2013

[YEA]  Pyoderma: Hi, my pug has had yeast and bacterial infection on most of her body for almost 3 years. Like most of you I tried many things to help her. She had the bumps, black elephant skin, itching and stunk so bad! ACV helps with the itching for sure but what finally helped clear her was Colostrum, and Quecertin. Within 3 days her belly was smooth again and the smell was almost gone. She is raw fed, will always have allergys but is 90% better now.

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Posted by Leah (Chicago, IL) on 06/19/2009

[YEA]  Hello Pyoderma Sufferers!

I writing to help those of you who would like to start a homemade diet in order to cure your pup's pyoderma. I have two healthy happy dogs (ages 1yr and 4 yrs) that have been on the raw diet since birth. It is actually very cost effective in comparison to that expensive kibble, and they have never had a single health problem to speak of.

I don't know if you could call it "preparing" their food, but I do pull it out of the refrigerator or freezer every morning...haha. It's really easy, and with a bit of guidance/education, you'll be on the right path in no time.

Example Day of Meals for my 4-yr-old Shepherd/Lab

Breakfast:

1 raw chicken back (yes, with the bones!!! She can easily rip through these in seconds!!)
1 slice of raw beef liver
1 capsule of fish oil

Lunch:

1 large raw turkey neck
4-5 raw gizzards


Dinner:

1/4 lb raw ground bison, beef, or lamb
1 raw chicken leg quarter


You don't have to cut it up, tenderize it, or grind it--you simply hand it to the dog, and that's that.

If you're JUST starting a raw homemade diet today, make sure to start gradually! Start with one protein, like chicken, and feed that only for one week. You could feed raw chicken backs or necks in the morning, and then kibble in the evening--that would be gradual. You need to give your pup time to build up his/her natural enzymes and stomach acids. NEVER EVER mix dry food with raw food--the digestion rates are so different that it would make your pup's tummy unsettled.

Also, if you run into a little bit of diarrhea, don't be discouraged--YOUR PUP WILL ADJUST--I PROMISE! In order to combat loose stool, simply add 1 tablespoon of plain canned pumpkin (not the pie filling) to the food. You can also add a probiotic capsule and a capsule filled with cayenne pepper to help with the adjustment.

GOOD LUCK!!!!

Let me know if you have any questions.

-L

Posted by Corey
Oak Hill, Ohio
03/22/2013
What type of antibiotic do you use for pyoderma.
Posted by Diane
Toronto
07/28/2014
Please do not feed dogs chicken bones as they can splinter in the dog's intestines, stomach, etc... Which can potentially be fatal or cause obstructions within their digestive tract.
Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
07/29/2014
546 Posts
Hey Diane!

What works for some may not work for all - but it might be just perfect for you!

I say this because I know many raw feeders who feed chicken necks, frames, backs, wings and thighs with no issues whatsoever.

I believe what is key is that your pet who is used to kibble be carefully introduced to raw bones so they learn how to eat them. Puppies started on bones this way have no issues with chicken bones.

Probably the easiest bone to introduce is a chicken neck; this is also perfect for cats and does a great job on cleaning their teeth. A raw chicken neck fed to a cat who needs a dental usually results in a cancelled vet appointment :)

Posted by Kristen
Vet School
11/16/2014
PLEASE DO NOT FEED YOUR ANIMALS BONES OR RAW DIETS! Unless someone provides you with a complete nutritional profile and AAFCO certified diet, DO NOT feed it to your pet! Where have the feeding trials taken place? What were the results? Formulation errors are common and result in nutritional imbalances. It could contain excessive protein or fat and/or have nutritional deficiencies such as EFA, calcium, micro-minerals, vitamins, etc. AAFCO has established the nutrient requirements for our beloved animals and it is not "random numbers". It is based on science, what we use to treat our animals and ourselves in order to live healthier lives. For example, 86 homemade/raw diets were compared to AAFCO standards and 87% of them were inadequate in at least one nutrient. 55% were inadequate in protein. 62% were inadequate in vitamins. 86% were inadequate in minerals. DO NOT FALL FOR THE RAW DIET FAD. People think dogs need to be fed like they are in the wild. Well, why do you think that those animals only live a few years? DO RESEARCH WITHIN A SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL LIKE JAVMA!!!! JAVMA studies report 47-100% overall incidences of foreign bodies (bones stuck in the intestines). It also reported 20-35% of poutry carcasses for human comsumption are positive for Salmonella spp and 50% are CONTAMINATED with Campylobacter spp!!!! AAHA does not avocate or endorse feeding pets ANY RAW OR DEHYDRATED nonsterilized foods! Even the FDA warns pet owners about feeding animals raw diets "the FDA is cautioning pet owners about feeding raw diets, warning that those who do may have a higher risk of getting infected with Salmonella and Listeria monocytogenes. Please, people, do NOT follow this fad! Leave pet food work-ups to the trained veterinarians and animal nutritionists who have devoted their lives to taking care of your animals. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE THERE FOR!
Posted by Suseeq
Sydney, Australia
11/17/2014
Well said, Theresa, I agree with you fully.
Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
11/17/2014
546 Posts
Hey Kristen from Vet School!

I have personally fed raw bones to my many dogs for 20 years with no ill result. I have yet to make the full transition to a raw diet, but plan on doing so very soon. I personally know breeders and kennels that feed a raw diet exclusively - from weaning on up - and have done so for decades with no ill effect. While I commend you for caring about pets, and your plan to become a vet, I have some advice for you: please remember that your job is to be a partner with your clients. This means that you are not always right, and that you can learn from your clients, just as you are doing now in the classroom. Your education does not end once you get your diploma - it has only begun. Please be open to the actual hands on experiences of your clients, and remember that breeders are specialists in their chosen breeds and along with your clients can be your *best* teachers.......if *you* let them.

Good luck in vet school!

Posted by Om
Hope Bc Canada
11/18/2014
From my personal experience I have to agree with Kristen about feeding bones to dogs. Too much heart ache prevents me to explain further. I remember one vet speaking from experience and his facial expression said enough about the experienced trauma.

About raw, I have experienced cats afflicted with tapeworm and altogether, meat today is thoroughly poisoned and has definitely its amount of GMO as feed. So I have given up on arguing the case.

Namaste, Om

Posted by Robert
Reading, Pa
11/18/2014
23 Posts
Hey Theresa,

It just couldn't have been said any better Theresa. Many of the acronyms Kristen quoted are bought and paid for by the big commercial food companies, and sadly, many Vets don't even know it and even more don't care.

Yours, Robert Lovemyamber

Posted by Robert
Reading, Pa
11/18/2014
23 Posts
Hi! Kristen, Have you ever seen or heard of dogs and other animals burying excess food to eat later? Maybe next week. They don't get sick because their intestinal tract isn't thirty feet long like ours. Food passes through them too quickly due to their short intestines for salmonella to have time to be a problem for a healthy animal. Maybe that will be covered next semester. Have a happy day Yours, Robert Lovemyamber
Posted by Robert
Reading, Pa
11/18/2014
23 Posts
Hi! Namaste, Om, Weight bearing bones are too hard for dogs. Cooked bones are bad for dogs as they become hard, brittle and splinter and the pet food stores are full of them. You've seen them , basted and cooked bones, the Vet Dentists dream. I have never had any problem at all giving raw non - weight bearing bones because they are soft, pliable and easy to digest with no splintering. I have heard of some small dogs that gulp their food down choking but in truth their eating habits can cause them to choke on toys , sticks, etc, I hope this info helps someone. Thanks, Lovemyamber
Posted by Robert
Reading Pa
11/18/2014
23 Posts
Wolves, dogs descendants, can live into their twenty's. Dogs have changed in appearance but their physiology hasn't . A hundred years of commercial dog food, shots, flea & tick and heart worm neurotoxins have compromised our beloved dogs immune systems, all in the name of money. Many Vets nutritional education comes from dog food funded courses. Why don't you at least learn what goes into the preparation and ingredients of commercial dog food. Look into the horror of rendering plants. At least offer a viable alternative to a balanced raw meat diet and I don't mean HILLS RECALL DOG FOOD!!! Robert
Posted by Robert
Reading Pa
11/18/2014
23 Posts
My Vet recommended Hills prescription dog food J/D , here are the ingredients, Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal, Flaxseed, Soybean Mill Run, Brewers Rice, Soybean Meal, Pork Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Chicken Liver Flavor, Powdered Cellulose, Fish Oil, Lactic Acid, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Iodized Salt, DL-Methionine, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), L-Threonine, Taurine, Soy Lecithin, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), L-Tryptophan, L-Carnitine, preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Chondroitin Sulfate, Phosphoric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary . Main ingredient CORN followed by CHICKEN BY PRODUCTS , every thing but the meat, SOYBEAN MILL RUN, what is left after the beans are processed that used to be thrown out in the trash. POWDERED CELLULOSE, sawdust. GARBAGE!!!! HILLS NUTRITION COURSE HA HA
Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
11/19/2014
546 Posts
Robert - I can only say DITTO to this post on the types of bones to feed. :-)

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Posted by Laura (Hartford, WI) on 12/01/2006

We are having some other problems, she keeps getting pyoderma. The vet puts her on antibiotics and it clears, but when she is done the pyoderma comes back. Any suggestions? Thank you so much for the mange cure. I was so afraid of the dip.

Posted by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
Dear Laura: Pyoderma infection is a simple bacteria infection a found in the the skin of the dog called Staphylococcus Intermedius. Often changing the diets of dogs from ready made dog food to home cooked food will help. For some reason, the ready made dog foods lowers the dog's natural immunity since there is no natural enzymes in them, while a partially cooked liver and meats will often help.

However, it is necesary to prepare a wet paste of sodium bicarbonate and borax (50:50) using a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution to prepare the paste and apply in area of infection. Four applications per day should stop the staph fairly quickly.

The drinking water of the dog should, for temporarily add 1/4 teaspoon of NATURAL sea salt per liter of water to the dog. Sea salt are quite alkaline forming where its pH is between 7.5 - 8.5, making an ideal addition.

The best kinds of sea salt, amazingly enough is not found for human use but for pet shops that sells aquarium. There are many brands, but they should be natural sea salts and most would be o.k. If this doesn't work of for a week add 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda per 1 liter of water to the dog's drinking water. It takes about 2 weeks for a noted improvement.

As a warning, dogs on antibiotics will get yeast infections if given too long. If the dogs happens to be eating ready made dog food this will be much worse. In my opinion, giving treating yeast/fungus issue are a lot more difficult then bacteria and viruses. I often call these fungus, the ultimate bioweapons, as it is extremely difficult to contain or rid off. So be on the watch for this. A dog will vomit, when they do get yeast infections and it appears to be like anorexic condition or acid reflux thing. If this symptoms is shown, antibiotics should be stopped and it will give the dogs to recover from additional symptoms faster.

Posted by Sarah
Brooklyn, Ohio
01/14/2012
What is the exact mixture required? Do you rinse off the paste or leave it on to dry? My boxer mix's skin is infected and is turing black in spots. I have had her on and off Ketoconozole, but am afraid we are starting to tax her already low immune system due to allergies.
Posted by Jane
Paramus, New Jersey
02/03/2012
My Spinone Italiano also keeps getting bacterial infections in the folds of her mouth. She's been on antibiotics throughout the year, it goes away and then comes back. Based upon where the infections are, she is not a candidate for the lip fold surgery. The doctors are looking for other alternatives. Any help is appreciated. She is only 7 years old.
Posted by Nicole
Deerfield Beach, Fl, Usa
02/24/2012
Diet is an important factor but clean water is also important when dealing with pyroderma especially in dog where outbreaks are localized to the mouth. The bowl the water is in is also very important. Plastic bowls commonly cause pyroderma. If your dog suffers from pyroderma that reoccurs check the water bowl, if it is plastic replace it with a metal bowl and see if that helps.
Posted by Looneygirl
Houston, Texas, Usa
05/01/2012
4 Posts
You might look up more on this info but when I went thru several breast cancer surgeries & antobotics I got the thrush or yeast infections in my mouth so bad and it was painful. The doctor would call in a prescription everytime. My nurse friend got me over the counter Acidophilus/probiotics to start using before my next surgery and then I read somewhere that Povidone-Iodine Solution, 10%. Rince in the mouth does the same thing for mouth yeast infections. I read they use this in poor countries instead of the expesive big pharma cure. It is that purple red stuff that I came home with stains with they use before surgerys. It works. Just don't let your dog drink it it should be for a wash out only. I am a big user now of iodone tinture & the bedidine for many things and also take iodine supplements which is a bit controversal but I take it in limited doses.
Posted by Doll33y
Up, Michigan
01/17/2013
Italian vinegar type salad dressing also helps with yeasty mouth infections for both humans and pets. Eat a salad or put it on vegetables or meats. Seems to be a nice easy solution instead of medicines.
Posted by Matthew
Stanwood, Wa
09/02/2013
[NAY]   I tried Ted's remedy of Borax and Baking Soda Paste with 1% Hydrogen Peroxide on my dog's Pyroderma. It didn't work. By the second day, my dog had even more redness, and in addition open sores with pus. Prior to staring Ted's remedy he didn't have any of these open sores like this. So tonight, I wiped my dog down with a wash clothe of warm water to clean off the borax paste residual. After that, I dried his groin completely with a towel, and put an antibiotic ointment on the sores and the majority of his groin and inside of his legs.

As for the paste, I was hopeful it would work. I read a lot about it, and watched other people's videos on YouTube. I mixed a 50/50 mix of Borax, and Baking Soda, and then slowly added enough of the 1% Hydrogen Peroxide until it formed a paste like gritty feeling mixture. I then rubbed this gritty paste on his groin. Almost reminded me of an exfoliation. I hope this is how Ted intended the paste to be applied. But if it was as Ted described, I did not see an improvement, I saw the condition get worse after application.

Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
09/03/2013
546 Posts
Matthew, does your dog suffer from allergies? When this happens to my dogs - applying a treatment and having the skin blow up afterwards - its because I am applying the remedy in an agitative manner to skin that is in [for lack of a better term] 'reaction mode'. It sounds as if your 'exfoliating' while applying the remedy was done when the skin was in reaction mode; the remedy will still be effective on the bacterial skin infection but you should avoid agitating and go for a spritz or a soak instead.

Ted covers several formulas for doggie allergy skin here: http://www.earthclinic.com/pets/allergies_questions.html#Question_688

It is well worth your time to review the questions and remedies to see if one of them is more suited to the conditions your dog is experiencing.

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Posted by Kristin (Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada) on 06/19/2011

Dear Ted,

Our 10 year old chesapeak bay retriever has chronic pyoderma. He used to get it once a year, now it is constant and the antibiotics don't seem to be effective any more. Our last round (the 4th or 5th this year) did not seem to have any effect. Is there a way to cure without antibiotics?

Posted by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
06/27/2011
Yes, tannic acid mixed with DMSO 70%, and apply the skin. Tannic acid is prepared 5-15%, preferably 10% in the DMSO 70% (which is 30% water and 70% DMSO). It is applied onto a clean dog externally. It works in 15 minutes. This should help, if it doesn't you can add some Lugol's iodine solution mixed into it, say another 10% of the mix.

Some misinformation correction is needed. MMS or sodium chlorite, or hypochlorite, or any chlorine bleach has exactly the same antibiotic effects (or disinfectant) effects as do the Lugol's solution or iodine solution (PVP-I). The only difference is that chlorine disinfectants or MMS has side effects associated with chlorine overdose. Iodine is needed by the humans and provides less side effects and won't cause severe side effects and its cures are more permanent then MMS or chlorine disinfectants. You can test the presence of chlorine in MMS by "activating" with chlorine paper test with citric acid. So use Lugol's iodine when making such a mixture is better.

Ted

Posted by Goddaluvme2
Ogden, Ut
11/25/2012
Get some Neopredef powder and some Malaseb shampoo and use as directed on the bottles. The Neopredef will help dry and soothe the seeping oozy areas of skin, the shampoo works wonders too!

Posted by Nicole (Littlehampton, Sa, Australia) on 02/11/2011

[SIDE EFFECTS]  I made the pyoderma treatment just as it said to after trying every shampoo and treatment for our puppy's mange for the past 6 wks which has resulted in pyoderma. I just put her first application on no more than 1-2 hrs ago and she has scratched her head raw to the point of bleeding now. She looks absolutely horrible but physically she doesnt seem to be affected by the mange/pyoderma, nor did she scratch at it. It's obviously made her very itchy, as a result scratching where I applied the paste until it bled... Is this normal? Anyone elses dog have the same reaction?

Posted by Sharon (Olympia, WA) on 04/16/2009

I wanted to reply to the cure for Pyroderma. We are currently trying to cure our dog as well. So far with agressive antibiodics. It is now absessed.

So our problem, this Pyroderma is around her eye. Can your recommendations be safely used around her eye?

Also, I don't have a clue on how to make her own food. Is there directions somewhere on the web?

Thanks for considering my e-mail

Posted by Gabrielle
Brighton, Ontario, Canada
05/09/2010
5 Posts
Give you dog Bee Propolis in liquid form from the health food store or from china town herbal store you can use it on the outside and also put it in to the food.

Want to cook, take vegetables from your fridge, whatever you have, take chicken liver, a cup of lentils, cup of rice, cup of noodles cup of millet add sea salt, pepper corn and Kelp buds.

boil cut the chicken liver in small pieces store in the fridge. Gives you 5-6 days' food when you serve heat a portion add fresh vegetables, fish oil, flax seed ground, spirulina, unpasteurized apple cider vinegar ( Glass Bottle ), brewers yeast and digestive enzyms. Don't give onions or Raisins.

In the morning bake a sweet potato or apple in the micro, add some plain Yogourt, cinnamon ,cloves, cardomon, dab of butter. For a treat give him some real bones he needs the calcium. No bad breath no constipation. he will never eat the take out food again.

Posted by Roxie Ann
Sandwich, Il
08/31/2011
Is it safe to use borax and baking soda remedy on cats? My cat has pyroderma and is not responding to multiple natural approaches- essential oils (diluted of course), probiotics, ACV, olive leaf extract, herbs, and a couple other things. I'd like to try the remedy listed for pyroderma and mange. But they are only listed as helping with dogs. Just want to be sure my cat is safe. Thanks!
Posted by Snocouchs
Berwyn, Illinois
09/29/2012
My 16 year old dog got pyoderma on her back. I washed the area off with lavender oil soap, rubbed coconut oil on it, and add a tablespoon of coconut oil to her food twice daily (she is 44 pounds). After the affected area dried up and stopped weeping (about 1 week later) I gave her a bath using coconut oil soap.

I am going to continue to add the oil to her food since she likes it and it also adds important enzymes and fats I believe are lacking in her food. She eats a dry food that is grain free.

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Posted by Lizzy (Asheville, Nc) on 05/22/2014

Dear Theresa and Om, I have been reading your awesome posts on Earth Clinic and hoping you might have advice. I am the one that wrote in about my dog's hematomas on both ears that started this past January. My dog now has what I think is pyoderma, small red sores creeping along his spine and sides. Poor boy. My vet is out of the office until Tuesday due to holiday weekend and I was wondering if you had suggestions. I started him on turmeric this morning (1/8 teaspoon) mixed into his Taste of the Wild food. He already gets probiotics in every meal. Considering applying tea tree oil on the spots OR neosporin. Not sure which one would be better. Have you any experience in dealing with this? It started up when we were out of town and I am wondering if the dog sitter didn't dry his fur enough after it rained on a walk and if that could have triggered it. Smells like a bacterial infection of some kind for sure. Thank you for your suggestions!

Posted by Om
Hope, Bc. Canada
05/22/2014
Lizzy from Asheville, NC -- thank you for your kind words. Really I am waiting for Theresa and her wisdom and experience to take up your concern.

I am doing things differently as I always had to work on a shoestring. I use UT a lot with good results and it costs nothing. It has worked immensely on my present big rescue but he has red mites now and I use a product for cleaning, made from oranges.

Have you used the warm oil on his ear? I know rubbing the entire dog with UT does wonders for skin. But you may want to consult Theresa who is doing an invaluable service to pet lovers. Wish you success with your doggie. Namaste, OM

Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
05/23/2014
546 Posts
Hey Lizzy!

Small red sores on the trunk IMHO are likely a reaction to an inhalant allergy, ie pollen or grass. Typically this time of year I deal with this in my pack -some react to the pollens with goopy eyes that need cleaning and OTC allergy eye drops, some get gunky yeasty ears seemingly overnight, while others break out in the hives that start as itchy bumps that break open and turn into crusty red spots.

I am going to experiment with Yucca that Jean from KY mentioned in posts below; the benefit I seek is in the anti-inflammatory properties/natural steroid. If you can head off the explosive reaction caused by inflammation - the itching and swelling - you have won half the battle IMHO.

So, when my dogs break out in bumps, I think hives and staph and start dipping dogs in Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy. I think its very important to treat the entire dog and not just select parts for the initial dip. It is also very important to monitor skin sensitivity, as if your dog's skin is in a very reactive state the act of scrubbing of the crusty scales around the red spots can actually raise hives. I once tried coconut oil on one of mine that had red spots and hives at the base of her neck; I poured the coconut oil on her neck and massaged down her back - we had a real nice massage session. And the next day her *entire back* was one huge, crusty scab! Gah! I went straight to the vet and we got a steroid shot and a course of antibiotics as at that point I could not see any other route for relief and healing. So, watch how reactive the skin is. Use Ted's anti-fungal/anti-staph dip. Consider alkalizing your dog's drinking water. Consider including yucca if the turmeric isn't providing the anti-inflammatory action you seek. And do consider the vet if you do not see the results you want and the skin goes from bad to worse with your home treatment.

Since it sounds like staph I would try adding 1/16 teaspoon of epsom salt in 1 liter of non-chlorinated drinking water for 2-3 days - max; this is not intended for long term use, just to nip a break out in the bud. When you stop the epsom salt in the water you can then start adding 1 teaspoon baking soda to 1 liter of water; do this for 5-7 days. This is a 'break out' or crisis dose. After a week you can cut it back to a maintenance dose of 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda to the water. You can also add can add 1/16 teaspoon borax along with the baking soda in 1 liter of water. In acute and extreme cases 1/4 teaspoon of borax in 1 liter of water is indicated. Many humans take 1/8 - 1/4 teaspoon borax in 1 liter of water daily as a detox and antifungal/antiyeast, so long term use is not an issue, however all these remedies are something you should 'play by ear' and should be adjusted as you see fit. The water additives address any mineral deficiency issues and should be addressed first.

For the staph infection going on, consider bathing him in a solution of Milk of Magnesia; use 1 part of water to 2 parts MOM and saturate the spot to kill off any bacterial or fungal infection going on. If he licks it up he MAY get loose stools as this also when taken internally is used to detox. If the spots are dry and crusty you can apply vaseline after the MOM treatment - up to you. Another consideration is mixing 50:50 baking soda and borax, mixed into 1% hydrogen peroxide to form a paste- apply gently to pyoderma 4 x day [rubbing or grinding the paste into the skin may cause to inflame the skin and make it worse].

Posted by Lizzy
Asheville, Nc
05/25/2014
Hi Om! Thank you for your email. Yes, I did try warm oil on his hematoma in the first week, but that is actually the worst thing you can do for a hematoma since there is no where for the blood to go. You don't want to encourage circulation in the ear. Thankfully both ears are healed now (see my posts on the hematoma page if you're interested in what I had to do, sigh). UT sounds interesting. At first I didn't know what you meant but saw it on another post and figured out it was urine therapy. Thanks again for your suggestions and many blessings to you!
Posted by Lizzy
Asheville, Nc
05/25/2014
Hi Theresa! Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a detailed post. I will bathe him in the h202 and peroxide formula tomorrow. I have to pick up MOM at the store to try. The yucca sounds great too. I will check out her post and locate where to buy it. I think the turmeric has been helping. The bacterial smell went away within 24 hours of giving turmeric (2 1/8 teaspoon doses in food, breakfast and dinner), but I keep seeing new scabs on along his spine. Very bizarre because they appear and then heal very quickly. But I think a visit to the vet (for the 10th time this year, sigh) is in order. You are right about the gunky eyes. He's had them for weeks and we have very high grass pollen at the moment. Do you think dogs can take medicinal mushrooms for immune support that are sold for humans? I think that would help his immune system during this rough allergy season! Thank you again and many blessings!
Posted by Om
Hope, Bc. Canada
05/25/2014
Hi Lizzy,

You may also want to use ESSIAC for detoxing which will then allow the immune system to kick in. My dog and I will use it as soon as I get it online. Namaste, Om

Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
05/27/2014
546 Posts
Hey Lizzy!

I've used mushroom products intended for humans on my pack - so I see no issue with using mushroom products to boost the immune system. That said, if there is a yeast/candida issue mushroom *may* be contraindicated as yeast and mushrooms are in the same family.

Posted by Monica
Sw Missouri, US
09/26/2014
My German Shepherd Dog was suffering from lip fold pyoderma and I read on another site to try Penaten Creme. It is a german diaper rash cream. Cleared up his pyoderma in one week.







 



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