Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- POPULAR REMEDIES
- Borax Background
- Abdominal Pain, Bloating
- Athlete's Foot
- Bald Spots
- Borax Baths
- Borax Dosages
- Borax for Children
- Borax Pentahydrate Vs Borax Decahydrate
- Borax Shampoo
- Boric Acid Vs Borax
- Brain Fog, Lupus
- Diluting Borax
- Foot Odor
- General Feedback
- Healing Properties
- Mycobacteria Infection
- Rough Feet
- Severe Pain, Arthritis, Libido
- Ted's Borax Feedback
- Where to Buy Borax: Australia
- Where to Buy Borax: India
- Where to Buy Borax: Ireland
- Where To Buy Borax: Malaysia
- Where to Buy Borax: Thailand
- Where to Buy: Internet
Last Modified on Apr 04, 2014
A naturally-occurring mineral, borax is traditionally used for a variety of cleaning purposes. However, borax also possesses a number of health components. When used appropriately, borax can help treat a range of health conditions and support overall good health.
What Is Borax?
A mineral comprised of sodium, boron, oxygen and water, borax has a history that dates back more than 4000 years. Mined directly from the ground, the prevalence of borax in the diet has waned in recent years as commercial growing of products has increased. An alkaline compound, borax has a pH of 9.3, which is part of what makes it so effective for supporting health.
Additionally, borax contains a high concentration of boron, an essential nutrient in the body. This nutrient supports brain function, boosts the immune system and builds bones.
While important for the health, this compound should be used in moderation. Likewise, it is important to not confuse borax with boric acid.
Health Benefits of Sodium Borate
An effective supplement, borax is gaining popularity in everyday use. The compound is effective for treating a variety of different issues and preventing several other conditions.
Borax is considered an antimicrobial compound, a fungicide, anti-inflammatory, and detoxifying agent. As such, the substance is effective for preventing the accumulation of fluorides and other toxic substances in the body, removing parasites and bacteria, treating molds and other fungi and chelating the system of heavy metals. Borax also stimulates the production of important hormones and stabilizes calcium, copper and magnesium levels in the body to inhibit calcification.
Sodium borate is also effective for treating a variety of specific ailments. As an anti-inflammatory agent, borax effectively treats arthritis, gout, swollen gums and other inflammatory diseases. Additionally, the substance eliminates infection such as bladder infection, urinary tract infection and others. It has also been used to treat cancer, obesity, high blood pressure, arterial disease and osteoporosis.
While research has suggested varying levels of safety regarding borax as a natural remedy, borax is both safe and effective when used in appropriate amounts. Just a small amount of borax helps promote good health and alleviates a variety of conditions.
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"Curious to know why borax is one of the most important remedies to kill fungus and nano-bacteria? Us too! We asked our independent contributor from Bangkok for clarification on why borax is an important home remedy to consider in certain cases like dog mange, lupus and rosacea.
Ted's response: "There are a lot of evidence why borax is effective against nearly all forms of fungus, whether they be mycoplasma found in lupus, rosacea, dog mange, interstitial cystitis plasmodium parasites, Morgellons disease, or even pneumonia. I think borax medicine is one of the medicines most ignored, misinformed or even suppressed in our present society. The authorities have done it so well that very few know that the toxicity of borax is about equal to that of simple table salt.
I have seen almost daily, people dying of pneumonia (James Brown died a couple of days ago), a Thai actor got his brains eaten by a plasmodium, for example. The possible cure is relatively simple: borax. Every time I see people dying, borax always come to mind, and you probably see why. Even health experts such as Dr. Batmanhelidj (Your Body Cries for Water) got pneumonia, as so did Bob Hope and Buddy Ebsen (Beverly HillBilly). I think pneumonia kills just as many people, it's just that cancer and heart disease take greater billboard area. Because of the way the medical system is structured, heart disease and cancer is more profitable, and a simple magnesium and pH may have helped both problems in prevention and possibly cure (I have seen this on many occasions) for a lot less cost.
Below is one of the many interesting articles concerning borax, which mentions the use of borax against fungus, a well known fact amongst microbiologists but totally unknown to the public.
The second article mentions about the use of borax against the dreaded an incurable plasmodium related organism, a common parasites in human. Never mind about its own effectiveness when combined with hydrogen peroxide in the use of dog mange! Ted"
Borax Versus Killer Fungus
Conifer forests are threatened all over the northern hemisphere by the tiny, ubiquitous spores of a naturally occurring fungus called Heterobasidion annosum. This disease, better known as Fomes, has reached epidemic proportions in Scandinavia, and is a growing menace in the managed forests of Canada, United States, Britain, and Russia. Fomes rots the roots and heartwood of growing trees. It could be called the acid rain of the fungus world.
Supporting the UK's Forestry Commission, Borax Group scientists Kieran Quill and Jeff Lloyd are fighting back against Fomes, and discovering how to do so with maximum effectiveness and economy. Their principal weapons are Tim-bor (disodium octaborate tetrahydrate) and the analytical capacity of the Borax Research laboratories.
Fomes cannot live freely in soil nor can it infect live trees except through root contact or wounds. Its spores however can colonize freshly cut stumps - both the "thinnings" which are essential as forests mature and the stumps left when the crop is finally felled.
The spores are produced by hoof-shaped fruiting bodies near ground level at a daily rate of about six million per square centimeter. Because these spores can be dispersed over distances of at least 300 miles, Fomes can be considered ubiquitous in most managed forests. Once established the fungus can remain viable in a stump for decades, posing a continuous threat to any conifer growing or planted near it. Fomes can survive both extreme cold and extreme heat.
But how are healthy trees infected? Fomes spores germinate on the stump surface, whence the fungus gradually colonizes the root system of the felled tree. From there it enters the root systems of living trees that are in contact with the stump's roots, causing both roots and heartwood to decay, eventually killing the tree.
The fungus is almost impossible to eradicate, except by the removal of all stumps soon after felling - an expensive and rarely practicable option. However, germination of spores on the surface of stumps can be stopped by chemical and biological agents. In the past, this has been carried out manually by the tree feller, but now with increasing mechanization, the requirements have changed. Today a material is needed that can be sprayed automatically onto the stump while the harvesting machine is actually severing the tree. The material must give value for money, be easy to obtain, have low mammalian toxicity, be non-corrosive and environmentally benign.
Among several fungicides tested, borates have consistently given good control. Tim-bor (known as Tim-Bor® in North America) and borax are the only chemicals to have EPA approval for the control of Fomes in the U.S. However materials that are effective over large areas of North America may behave differently in northern Europe where rainfall, climatic conditions and forest management techniques could result in a completely different set of disease and control characteristics. In the light of this, the UK Forestry Commission and the Borax Group have carried out trials in Scotland with the object of determining borate efficacy. What is the threshold at which Tim-bor becomes toxic to the fungus? How little will do the trick?
Undiseased Sitka spruce near Peebles, Scotland were felled and their stumps were treated with Tim-bor at four percent, two percent, one percent, 0.5 percent, or with water. Twenty-four hours later Fomes was applied dropwise by hypodermic syringe.
The stumps were left to mature for a year, during which time samples of wood were regularly extracted with a core borer for borate analysis. At the end of a year, the amount of stump colonized by Fomes was measured on a one inch thick disc cut from a standard depth. Each disc was incubated at 10ºC to 15ºC for ten days.
During incubation, fruiting structures of the fungus emerge from infected wood. These can be seen quite easily under a dissecting microscope, and allow any diseased zones of the stump to be mapped. A comparison of the measured diseased areas on the sample discs provides a means of judging the success of a particular treatment.
All analytical work for the project was carried out at the Borax Research laboratories in Chessington (UK).
The results from this experiment indicate that at a borate concentration of around four percent, the mean area of infected heartwood was reduced from 22 percent to less than 0.5 percent. This represented less than one square centimeter, an insignificant inoculum. However, at concentrations of two percent and below, no significant control occurred. In an earlier experiment it was found that a concentration of five percent totally prevented infection. So a working concentration of four to five percent of Tim-bor is indicated for full disease control.
As a result of this research, Tim-bor is being assessed for full commercial application by the UK Forestry Commission, and has aroused widespread interest across Europe."
Of Cabbages And Things
Plasmodiophora brassicae are nasty little beasts of uncertain origins. They may relate to the protozoa, single celled organisms which are neither plants nor animals, and are only a few thousandths of a millimeter wide and long. Most of their relatives in this microscopic world are harmless, but some distant cousins are Plasmodium species, which cause malaria in humans and Amoeba species which cause dysentery. Plasmodiophora brassicae's parasitic way of life is to attack vegetables of the brassica family, causing the debilitating clubroot disease. Now, evidence is emerging that boron might play an important part in keeping its effects in check.
Crops of the brassica family are of enormous worldwide importance. Arguably they are second only to cereals in their contribution to human diet and welfare. They range from the cabbages, cauliflowers, calabrese and brussels sprouts familiar in the western world, to a wide array of leafy and root vegetables widespread in India, China and Japan. The Chinese cabbage, for example, is one of the most important foodstuffs of the Orient. Much of the world supply of vegetable oil comes from rape and mustard seed, while swedes (rutabagas) and turnips are important animal fodder crops in Europe and North America.
There wouldn't be much of a problem hosting a parasite like Plasmodiophora if it didn't have such rampant and dire side effects. In clubroot disease, the plant roots are distorted by massive galls, which inhibit water and nutrient uptake. The grossly deformed roots sap carbohydrates from the leaves and deprive developing flowers. The foliage turns bluish-green, then yellow and then wilts: the plant is past the point of no return and nothing can restore it to health.
Not surprisingly, this is responsible for drastic crop losses and poor quality. It is also virtually impossible, certainly in intensively-farmed regimes, to eradicate the parasite from the soil in which it spends much of its lifecycle.
When Plasmodiophora spores germinate in the soil, the tiny organisms swim around and as soon as they meet a root hair they attach and inject their own cell contents into the root. The genetic material multiplies inside the plant, and it is believed that this presence upsets the host hormone metabolism and leads to uncontrolled cell growth - almost a plant cancer. Once established and now mature, the parasites release billions of new spores back into the soil. It is a very robust lifecycle which is almost impossible to break.
There are clues too that Plasmodiophora may incorporate DNA from the host - perhaps a reason why biological control methods or genetically- induced protection methods have not yet been found. The traditional ways of controlling Plasmodiophora, either heavy liming (that is, adding quantities of calcium), alternative crop rotations or better soil drainage, similarly have only limited effect.
This is where boron comes in. The element is an essential plant nutrient, and it is well known that boron-healthy plants are better able to resist disease-causing organisms. In the case of brassicas, the important thing is to give the plant a head start, and certainly enough boron to begin with can help it resist clubroot.
But this doesn't fully explain why crops which enjoy good boron availability seem to be able to resist clubroot significantly better. Researchers, led by Professor Geoffrey Dixon of the Department of Bioscience and Biotechnology at the University of Strathclyde, Scotland, UK have been looking into this puzzle.
They started out with three possible ideas. Does boron somehow reduce the potency of the clubroot invader directly in the soil? Might it encourage the growth and activity of soil microbes which then prey on the Plasmodiophora before they attack? Or does it actually fight the invasion or its effects within the plant itself?
The team now suspects it is actually the latter. For boron, which contributes so much for so little to plant metabolism, seems not to do the same for the parasitic protozoan. Indeed it works in the opposite way and actually slows down the lifecycle.
What boron and, less strongly, calcium (from heavy liming) seem to do is to reduce the rate at which the invaders mature inside the root and turn into secondary sporangiophores - the ones that cause the damage - whose mission is to release new generations into the outside subterranean world. Boron apparently doesn't stop the initial invasion, but puts the harmful metamorphosis into slow motion.
Whether boron is altering the biochemical environment inside the root to make it Plasmodiophora-unfriendly, or is encouraging the plant to retaliate is not yet clear. But the effect is the same. Brassicas are given more, and often enough time to mature and establish effective roots before clubroot tumors wreak their damage.
A 15-year long series of experiments conducted by the Strathclyde team has convincingly demonstrated that a specific application of boron to the seedlings at transplanting does indeed reduce the onset of clubroot symptoms and hence protects crop yields to a significant degree.
Species by species, brassicas vary in their susceptibility to boron deficiency, but generally they are rated as vulnerable to low boron levels for general growth and health: boron supplementation is, then, important anyway.
But the new message for growers is that, in the right amount and at the right time, it keeps clubroot in check."Replies
04/28/2012: Waynej from Hayden, Idaho, Usa replies: "This article seems to be recommending 20 Mule Team Borax in the laundry section at the market. I followed this advice and when I opened the box the borax was scented with a typical laundry scent. Most laundry scents are chemical compounds rather than natural scents. These chemical scents are dangerous to ingest even in very small amounts.
There is unscented borax being sold on Ebay but I'm hoping someone knows of a source for USP or food grade borax. Borax is 15% boron which does a great job of neutralizing radiation which we are getting plenty of from Japan."
05/13/2012: Zilverb from Seabrook, Texas, Usa replies: "I send you my deepest gratitude for Ted's borax remedy for parasites. I also used the baking soda in water to raise my pH and kill microbes. I was doing it for cancer and I did not care about much else. However, I had Werlhof's disease, commonly known as ITP (Idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura). I had already had a platelet transfusion. My platelet count is now in the middle range and I am thrilled by the surprise cure. This was initially an unexpected cure. I will repeat the borax in water treatment periodically to ensure I do not have a relapse. Thank you, Ted, all the participating people, and bless all that you do."
08/01/2012: Artlover8 from Lakewood, Co, Jefferson replies: "I am a 52-year old caucasian woman living in Colorado. I am 5'2" about 120 lbs. I took a lot of anti-biotics for acne over a long-term period 20 years ago and suspect systemic candida. I have joint pain, esp. in hips, with shoulder and neck injuries that frequently go into painful flairs with repetitive motion. I take magneisum which helps with the pain.
I have tried 1/8 Tea in about a liter of water for general alkalizing. I have read to do this in drinking water with 4 days on and then 3 days off. My goal is to raise by body's Ph level and to remove candida. Within a few days, my skin begins to itch here and there and then everywhere and becomes intolerable. My stools also become loose and watery. I discontinued the borax and began 1/4 Tea Baking Soda in water 30 minutes after 2 meals daily. The same thing happens with the itching and loose watery stools. I have also tried Candida Control Program, which is 2 tablespoons before breakfast, starting with their High Potency formula with the plan to do the Phase I and Phase II over a 3-month period. Again I get the itching and loose watery stools. I have tested my Ph urine levels and the readings are coming up in the 6.0 to 6.2 in the morning. I am doing my best to avoid sugar, but not easy.
Does anyone know why this happens and what I can do to correct?"
08/06/2012: Linda from Nashville, Tn replies: "Hello there... It feels to me you are experiencing the cleansing aspect of the parasites dying off. Loose watery stools, flatulence, low energy, flu like systems are a symptom of moving the dead toxic parasites through your system. Your body is healing itself... And this is know as a "healing crisis". Do your best to push on through... When I cleared myself of parasites... It took at least 6 weeks of flu-like symptoms. The cure can feel worse that the cause. Consider switching to mainly raw foods and having as much green juices as possible. Power on through... You can do it!"
08/14/2012: Aluna from Dracut, Ma replies: "TO Artlover8 from Lakewood, Co, Jefferson: You are experiencing the die off of candida and it sounds like you have a severe systemic case. Look into adding iodine (I spray it on my skin and wear dark clothing), organic virgin coconut oil (eat it and rub on itchy skin), and molybdenum (I melt it under my tongue) to help ease the side effects. Hard as it is to deal with the die off, it is worth it in the long run to be free of the fungus that causes so many maladies."
09/10/2012: K.g. from Vancouver, Canada replies: "Borax remedy is old remedy as stated by Rex Newnham PhD DO ND, in his book "Away with Arthritis" (2nd edition printed 1993)
http://members.upnaway.com/~poliowa/Away with Arthritis.html"
08/09/2013: Ray from Calgary replies: "To dispel misinformation given by a contributor. There is nothing (no smells, fragrances etc) added to 20 mule team borax. The website of twenty mule team borax http://www.20muleteamlaundry.com/about/what-is-borax/ tells us:
"Absolutely nothing is added. No phosphates, per-oxside, chlorine, or other additive chemicals."
It also adds
"20 Mule Team? Borax is 100% natural, and 99.5% pure (there is about a half of 1% of naturally occurring trace minerals). " So any impurities are just other "minerals" and not added "scents" or chemicals etc.
Just stay away from big industry "Borax Alternatives" which are NOT borax. Also stay away from items "containing borax" you want the real borax not some big soap companies "alternatives or concoctions contains it. you want Pure" borax, like 20 mule team or other "pure" ones."
08/10/2013: Timh from Louisville replies: "I have made a previous post regarding this situation, and will repeat since it seems to deserve the attention.
First, it is not likely that the people reporting a "fragrance smell" are actually having olfactory hallucinations, and the manufacturers are not lying. So, the only realistic explanation is the shipping and storage of the 20 mule team. Guess what other items are housed along side the borax, heavily chemically scented laundry products. The scent is so strong the containers need not be opened. You can go blindfolded and stumbling about the market and easily find the laundry detergent aisle by the strong scent.
20 Mule Team would need to first "bag" the contents, in addition to "boxing" so as to keep the foreign scent from entering."
02/09/2014: Helen In Houston from Houston, Texas Usa replies: "When I bought Borax there was another product that was similar but scented. I remembered being puzzled at first which box to buy. Be sure to buy the real borax, not a different company's product that has boron or borax in big letters but is a mixture."
03/17/2014: Man from Sojouring America replies: "I just went to the cheap store and bought a four pound and twelve ounce box of 20 Mule team Borax. I am a little apprehensive but I try other off the wall natural, God made remedies so I am going to try this one too. If the body needs Boron then the body needs Boron. I've done a bit of reading here on the issue so I am going to try this. After all, I already drink a solvent that says on the container Do not drink (DMSO). LOL"
03/18/2014: Cody from Ogden, Utah replies: "I am using Borax to detox my body of heavy metals. So simply putting a little bit in water will work fine? No boiling necessary?"
03/18/2014: Man from Sojouring America replies: "A reply to: Cody from Ogden, Utah. I noticed today that warming water a bit to below boiling makes the Borax dissolve much faster."
Abdominal Pain, Bloating
[YEA] 03/10/2014: Veesue from Sheridan, Wy, Usa: "Prioris, Bill, Ted, and TimH..etc: Thank you all so much for your informative posts on borax. They have explained my mild die-off reaction (herxheimer effect) from using it. I shall cut back a bit on the intake and continue on.
For the record, my apparent die-off reaction consists only of morning diarrhea.
The apparent positive effects that I have noticed recently have been that my chronic abdominal bloating has all but completely disappeared (I’ve literally had that for decades). Along with the bloating, general abdominal pain and discomfort have also all but disappeared, which included daily, middle-of-the-night deep burning pain in my gut.
Please note, that along with starting the borax regime, I have also started the “water cure” (Google it), which involves properly hydrating your body. These two remedies have removed a dark cloud of dismal depression that many digestive-related issues have caused me for many years. It feels like I have a new life. Cheers and blessing to all!!"
[YEA] 07/23/2009: Lin from Tujunga, CA: "This isn't exactly a cure, but might help anyone with allergies and sensitivities to chemical laundry detergents.
I bought a box of Borax for the first time and have started making 100% natural laundry detergent, along with a natural soap (Castille is what I used) and Soda Ash (or 'Washing Soda' - which is a more concentrated form of Sodium Bicarbonate/Baking Soda. I bought mine from an Art Supply which was sold as '97% Soda Ash' (people use it to set tye-dye and natural dyes. I read that Arm and Hammer Washing Soda is only about 23 or 30% Soda Ash and has bleach and chemicals added).
There are other ways of washing laundry naturally like soap nuts, etc... I haven't gotten to trying those yet, but just wanted to say how easy and rewarding this was. It's not as laborous as you think! You can find recipes online. It is just a matter of hand grating the soap (which is kind of fun, let the kids do it!), then dissolving the soap in a pan of hot water on the stove, + adding borax and soda ash. White Vinegar can be added to the wash as a natural fabric softener. And for good measure, why not dry some clothes out in the sun! My laundry is coming out beautifully (especially the cottons).
What was once a boring chore is turning into a labor of love. Ok, maybe not EVERY day! But it's inspired me to make many similar changes and get back to the old fashioned ways of life. Afterall, don't they always portray women singing at the clothesline? But we don't do that at the washing machine, do we? Makes me feel like we've lost something there."
03/11/2010: Adriana from Sofia, Bulgaria replies: "I go further and make my own soap bars with natural fats and lye. I use it to make my own liquid laundry detergent. The soap making process is explained on line. There are also soap calculators on line for proportions of fat, lye and water. Instead of grating my soap, I cut it into smaller pieces and put them in a 10 liter water bottle, add baking soda (about 200 g) and about 100g borax. Fill with water and leave it to melt on its own. Shake it well before each use. I clean at home with baking soda, vinegar, steam-cleaner. I use my own soap as a shampoo and tooth-soap as well. I do not use any chemicals in the house. To remove stains from clothes I use dry clay powder."
[YEA] 08/04/2008: Dyna from Portland, Oregon, USA: "We put Borax in the cracks about the kitchen to feed the ants. They carry it back to their nests, they cannot digest it and they die. We seem to go for 1 to 1 1/2 years without being bothered by them now."Replies
[YEA] 08/30/2010: Dave from Battle Ground, Washington State, Usa replies: "I went out one morning to see thousands of small black ants outside our garage door, where the car drives in, all along the edge of the door. My first thought was to get some insecticide and spray but I don't like killing living things no matter what they are. I read a post somewhere saying 20 Mule Team Borax makes insects go away. So I sprinkled some across their path and went to the grocery store to shop. When I came back every single one of them had left, none were killed, and they went elsewhere."
[YEA] 08/16/2011: Westsound from Vancouver, Vancouver Canada replies: "Borax works for killing ants. I found ants in the kitchen, didn't know where they were from. Read online and tried putting borax along the kitchen counter, the edge of the sink etc. Then I went to Seattle with my doggy. Couple days later we got home, cleaned up the borax with a vacuum cleaner. I haven't seen any ants since. It works wonder :)"
08/28/2011: Patricia from Gulf, North Carolina replies: "Do you think the borax would work on getting rid of Fire Ants as well?"
09/22/2011: Sheila from Cork, Ireland replies: "Peppermint essential oil is a good way to deter ants; they just turn right around and head away when they're near it. I prefer it, then I don't have to worry about having harmed them."
10/22/2011: Elizabeth from Oceanside, Ca replies: "You might want to determine why the ants are there in the first place. We discovered that the place we were renting had termites and the ants were eating them."
12/08/2012: Teresa from Auckland, New Zealand replies: "Before resorting to killing ants why not ask them to move? Tell them that they have so many mins. to go outside or you will kill them. And if they are outside why kill them? They have a purpose. It works, try it."
02/19/2013: Mia from Ukiah, California replies: "I had such fun reading the progression of the posts. It was delightful. I love how we the people are taking back our rights & being good hearted & sensible."
04/11/2013: John from Rumson, Nj Usa replies: "I thought I was the only one in the world that knew "tell the Ants to leave" actually works. It really does work. And it makes you laugh because it's so simple."
04/14/2013: Sarah from Lehi, Ut replies: "I'm going to try asking them to leave. I like that idea, it certainly makes me smile. Wonder if it works on spiders too. :) I don't like killing anything, I figure they have a right to be here as much as we do and obviously there's a natural purpose for them."
04/15/2013: Polly from London, England replies: "I'm going to try this when the first little critturs come marching in when the weather warms up! At the moment I don't kill, them I use rotten lemon peels put down where they come in and it takes a little while but they certainly don't like the smell or taste of rotting lemon peels. I don't eat oranges so I haven't tried them maybe someone else could try that?"
05/21/2013: Deanna from Ewa Beach, Hawaii, Usa replies: "There was an ant running down the side of my bathtub yesterday. After reading here I sternly said to him "get out of here or I'm going to kill you! " He screeched to a halt and ran out of my house. I am truly stunned at his reaction."
05/21/2013: Kt from The Usa replies: "I remember reading to put lemon juice in the corner of windowsills to keep ants out of the house."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 08/16/2013: Starswalker from Los Angeles: "I wonder if Ted would be able to jump into this conversation, and give us (even) a little bit more on Borax. I confess I am feeling a tiny scared today about using it, but I believe it must be good, and I want to continue. Let me tell the story: I found Earth Clinic a while back, and got addictid to it. I started using some of the treatments and protocols prescribed here, and I am happy, even though I don't have any reason for fireworks. ACV+baking soda and molasses became integral part of my life. For me it is the general sense of well being that counts, and I am feeling good. About a month ago I started feeling a increasing pain in my left arm, which came from nowhere. I went to the doctor, and an xray was taken, and the doctor said I have a mild arthrits in my shoulder junction (it hurts a lot, and I don't take medications). Instead of going to another doctor, I came straight to EC, where I spend a couple of days reading everything possible about the use of Borax, and finally yesterday I started. I put 1/8 of 20 Mule Team borax in one liter of water, and sipped it throught the day, without any complication. Today on the other hand, things changed: I went to the bathroom again and again, until I felt empty. I felt a general weakness in my body and my heart seems to be working harder, there is a heavy sensation on my left side (heart?) and in my chest. As I said, I want to continue taking it, and resolve this pain the way God and nature intended me to, but this sensation in my heart and the weakness is making me a little bit weary. Please, give what you have, as much as it is possible. I will stop it until I get an answer. Thank you so much, this is a great place to be, and I appreciate all the people hanging around and exchanging information and support. You find love in the most unexpected places!!!!!"Replies
08/17/2013: Prioris from Fl, Usa replies: "Nobody has done a post in removing the FEAR out of taking borax. This is what is creating so many questions on borax. This also needs to be put in the Question and Answer posts on borax.
Fear is created by the "Not for internal use" warning on the box and from some of the posters who haven't looked into it enough.
It took me a while to understand borax more clearly. Many posts gave impression it is dangerous to use. This is not true.
First, salt is as toxic or more toxic than borax. How many people go into mortal fear for their life when they sprinkle salt on their food. Not many. (as an aside, salt has no connection to heart disease).
Ted has the 5 days on and 2 days off protocol but the 2 days off is really OPTIONAL. You make the decision. Since no medical tests are being done to determine your levels of boron etc, this is just Ted being cautious. I can perfectly understand this when giving advice to other people. This is why you want to be familiar with boron overdose just to be aware of the warning signs.
Some people do experience herxheimer or other reactions. This is the reason for going slow. It isn't because your going to die from it. This going slow approach is OPTIONAL. If you do have reactions, just use common sense and pull back.
Some people take medications and other things. That could be a factor on how much you take.
Females dose is 1/8 tsp. Male dose is 1/4. I think it really comes down to your body weight. Heavier and larger people should probably take higher amount.
It is not some deadly substance unless consumed in some very extraordinary high amounts. You have to eyeball your own particular health situation.
I am 6'2" and 255 lbs (btw, I am slim). When I started taking it, I took 3/8 tsp divided up in 3 doses. I took this amount because my body weight is higher and I wanted an initial load period. I am not having herxheimer reactions etc. I will bring the amount down the longer I take it. I will eventually add days off. Down the road as the boron builds up, I will keep decreasing it. I don't have any objective measurement that tells me when enough is enough. I will keep on guard for overdose symptoms. We have to use common sense when taking anything. Ted's philosophy is taking as little as possible. I generally do that with any supplement over the long run.
I also don't use the liter of water. Nobody has explained the rationale for that. Experience tells me it is to mask the soapy taste. The soapy taste is no big deal for me. I use anywhere from 1/2 to 1 cup of water. No need for that litre crap. The only other reason for that amount of water is it could help wash a little more toxin out of one's system but if you're getting enough water (the color of your urine will tell you if your getting ewnough water), why bother.
I also don't drink the water throughout the day. That is a terrible inconvenience for me. I just spread the dose. At some point I will adjust that. If one is having herxheimer or other reactions then maybe that has some validity but it is not necessary to do it that way unless your having problems with it.
Do not be in mortal fear or terrified state of using borax. One poster took 1 tsp a day for 10 days and had no problems. You need to overcome the psychological mortal fear of taking borax.
Bottomline: The general protocol gives you a framework for how to take borax. Just understand the rational behind it. You need to adapt that protocol for your own situation. Don't be afraid to do things differently."
08/21/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa replies: "I second Prioris but also recommend caution as some people experience side effects most likely from detox and herx reaction in which case "start low and go slow".
Personally I have been using Borax recently in a hot bath for the treatment of fungal infection with modest results. I also add a generous amount of other major and trace minerals to the bath for general health reasons. 1/4 -1/2 cup Borax and no bad side effects to report."
08/21/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa replies: "@Starswalker: The symptoms you report are classic detox and die-off reactions. The Borax is removing the Fluorides and other heavy metals as well as killing pathogens. All this stuff courses through the circulatory system (which puts stress on the heart). To support the heart supplement Magnesium, CoQ10, and Carnitine. To help the liver detox the bad stuff being mobilized by the Borax, supplement 1grm NAC before a meal and take 3mg Melatonin before retiring. These two nutrients will dramatically increase you antioxidant levels which should reduce the shock your body is experiencing."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 02/08/2014: Helen In Houston from Houston, Texas Usa replies: "I tried boron for a minor arthritis in some fingers. The first evening there was a tiny bit of stinging at the tip of one finger. The next evening the tips of several fingers on one hand stung. The third evening the tips of all fingers on one hand were stinging enough to keep me awake. It's a couple months ago I don't remember if the tips of the other hand were starting to sting or not, I think so but am not sure.
Nowhere near a joint of fingernail - the fleshy fingertips were stinging badly. I was really scared. Stopped the boron, then the stinging died away over about 4 days.
20 Mule team Borax, ingredients sodium tetraborate, 1/8t tsp (or somewhat less) in a quart of water over the day.
I searched for what stinging fingertips could be a symptom of but found nothing, no web site suggesting boron for arthritis suggests any such side effect, so I'm curious if anyone has any idea what might have been going on. I was using 2 tsp ACV + baking soda in a liter of water over the course of the day at the same time. ACV has never caused side effects for me.
The boron had no effect on the arthritis as far as I can tell but I used it only those few days."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa replies: "Helen: It would be nearly impossible to determine specifically what is causing the stinging, but generally it is surely a "detox reaction". We know that Borax has a neutralizing effect on several heavy metals and chemicals like fluoride. I would suggest backing up and doing any number of detox remedies found here on E.C, while continuing a small dose of Borax. A very good multivitamin/mineral supplement which contains whole foods, enzymes etc (the longer the profile the better) is the first step in detox. Cruciferous vegetable and their extracts like I3C, DIM, will greatly enhance your defenses while helping detox the body."
02/09/2014: Prioris from Fl replies: "Boron itself generally will not kill the arthritis infection. It needs borax to kill the infection. Data seems to indicate that boron can be preventative once the infection is gone.
You didn't specify how long you took the borax for. Your post seems to indicate only 3 days or maybe 3 months. At proper dose, the cure usually takes 3 weeks. Around what age are you and what other things are you taking.
This kind of gets neglected in borax posts but without enough magnesium in the body, it may cause the borax protocol to not work. Ted has even said that. Also borax does chelate some minerals out of the body also. So take some magnesium (magnesium glycinate is good choice) with it if you aren't taking any.
Given RA effects fingers, that would be a preferable place to have side effect because it would indicate to me that some type of herxheimer reaction is occurring and borax is attempting to fight infection.Maybe your lacking another nutrient or maybe some toxin is blocking it. Ut takes self detective work.
I think Timh posts had good ideas about detoxing body. It is good you reported the side effect here for other people. You really need to stay with it and try to figure it out by continue to experiment. Don't give up."
[YEA] 02/17/2014: Idahomeyers from Idaho replies: "Re: people and fear. I am just starting to try it. But I found this article that may help ease the fears. http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/349/maximum_limits_for_boron_and_fluoride_in_natural_mineral_water_should_be_in_line_with_drinking_water_regulations.pdf"
03/12/2014: Ronald from Lima, Peru replies: "Does borax remove bromine from the body?"
10/22/2012: Wayfinder from Modesto, Ca/ Usa: "Hey look! My first link ever! This is so amazing, I wanted to copy every paragraph. Another substance as marvelous as ascorbic acid. Hope this works! --T.
10/21/2012: Taffy from Santa Cruz, Ca/usa: "I feel like I have tried everything for my arthritis and joint pain but, in truth, I continue to find new solutions. I am recommitting to the ACV daily and borax/4ays/week after reading about others' relief. Gut health and sufficient proper minerals are so key!
My newest hope comes from the awareness of my uneven muscle stength and areas of weakness- especially in the hip/glut/quad areas. A few weeeks ago, I read about Functional Movement Screen (FMS) and started seeing a trainer to assess and coach me to improve uneven muscles. I also had a PT assessment.
I have an old knee injury and drive a stick shift. I started Zumba about 6 months ago (big fun! ) and could see that my right leg was skinnier than my left. So I did some workouts of single leg with weights and found a BIG difference in strength between right and left leg. Next, the PT noticed that my hips were not aligned. Well, imagine what all that does to my back and other joints! I think, due to uneven muscles and use, my joints have been pulled and tugged out of balance for some time.
My best new hope came after I saw the trainer. She gave me some FMS exercises and kept reminding me to keep my abs in with a natural arch in my back. The next day and each day since I feel relief when I hold my abs in and try to keep my spine in good alignment.
I have taken all the western meds in the past and will take an IB when I just really must but I know that those things are penny wise and pound foolish. While there can be symptom relief, there is no free lunch. I am so alerted to side effects of western meds. that I take remedies to rebuild whenever I indulge.
To our health! (holding a glass of mild borax)"Replies
10/21/2012: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Taffy, thanks for the borax toast!!! :)
I just got a Kindle book that is helpful for chronic aches and pains: "3 minutes to a pain free life, but Joseph Weisberg and Heidi Shink". The exercises are short (not easy yet... ) and seem to be helping. That and the book "Pain free" by Pete Egoscue are my favorites right now for muscles and joints."
[YEA] 07/04/2010: Rebecca from Ashtabula, Ohio: "My comment is on the Borax for arthritis. I tried the ACV (for about two weeks) and didn't seem to be getting any results. So, I started adding the 1/8tsp of borax in a liter of water (drank through out the day). The next day after adding the borax, my knees (where I was having "arthritis pains," I'm guessing, I was never diagnosed officially.) began to feel less swollen. It's been about a week and my knees feel about 80% better. I know this is anecdotal, but thought I would share. I cannot prove it was the Borax (or that the ACV didn't also contribute). I am currently continuing with both and will see how it goes. I truly believe it was the borax. I'm 40 yrs old (female) and used to distance run for about twenty years until I started having knee issues. My mother also has osteoarthritis, diagnosed officially. I mention this because I wonder if it could be hereditary? Anyways, thanks for the info on borax. I will continue it and see how it goes. For now, I believe it has given my knees a big turn around in a small amount of time."Replies
[YEA] 10/13/2011: Pj from Columbia, Sc replies: "First of all I would like to thank this board for being here. I have suffered with septic arthritis in my hip for a little over 2 years now. I was googling :) and came across Earth Clinic. I decided to try the Borax for my arthtritis since nothing else seems to work. I started it last saturday at the 1/8 teaspoon in a liter of water. I have felt better everyday so far, but today I cannot believe I almost have no pain at all!! I am so giddy I don't even want to go to sleep, I just want to enjoy not feeling the terrible pain I have been in. Now I want to go see my pain doc and tell him that it only cost me a few cents to get out of pain, compared to all the expensive drugs and injections he gave me. Thanks again, keep on posting!"
04/14/2012: Eveline from Peterborough, Ontario, Canada replies: "I've been putting the borax and xylitol into my drinking water but haven't noticed any change in my arthritic pain. The pain and immobility have been getting worse every day, with it suddenly affecting my fingers as well as elbow, shoulders, but my knees are the worst. I have a hard time walking. I'm only 57. I'm just wondering if someone can explain the protocol about only drinking the borax water for 5 days of the week. I have done many, many things that are recommended to cleanse the body, taking this supplement and that, I don't eat nightshades, I don't eat processed foods, drink pop, eat mainly vegetables, fruits, protein, am off gluten and grains. I've had no relief. I'm not a fan of conventional medicine but have had to succumb to NSAIDs as otherwise I don't think I would even be walking at this point. I get acupuncture, physiotherapy, see a Naturopath and am determined to find the right combination for me to be rid of this. I wouldn't even mind limping if I could just be free of the pain. Thanks."
05/29/2012: Silvermist from Downeast, Maine, Usa replies: "From the fibromyalgia section: Ted and Bill recommend 1/8tsp borax in 1 l water daily for 4 days, off for 3. Continue indefinitely- replaces flouride and may take a long time to get it all removed, plus new exposures. I think Ted somewhere suggested taking a few months off every year. If you feel better, you could stop, then start again when flouride builds back up and causes pain. It is androgenic according to Bill- so you will get a testosterone boost, which gives a little kick to the flagging libido most of us have from toxic crap in our bodies. A tiny bit of testosterone is ok for women, though you don't know how much a pinch of Borax affects testosterone levels. Choose your battles, I suppose.
I have tried many things on this site for I assume flouride toxcity (my mainstream dentist told me I have frank flourosis- stage4 toxicity of flouride), and borax does seem to do something positive for me for pain."
08/31/2013: Prescriptions Kill from United States Of America, United States replies: "Just curious, but have you tried eating raw Ginger daily? Ginger is really good for arthritis and several other benefits. It is very spicy (more like a hot/cool sensation)."
09/01/2013: Kt from Usa replies: "Turmeric is very good too."
01/17/2014: Marina from Naples. Fl replies: "I am taking minocyclin antibiotic 100 mg. Monday, Wensday, Friday. After 4 months, my life changed complitely. Now I can do everything myself. It still hurts when I walk , but it is getting better with each passing day. Hope it will help to all of you who suffers with RA. Before I tried everything nothing helped. google Dr.Brown's protocol for RA. And read his work. It took me 4, 5 months to cure RA. I believe that RA is a bacterial decease, hence antibiotics works."
01/18/2014: Prioris from Fl replies: "Trying a few antibiotics for chronic diseases can yield good results. My fms pain symptom started to disappear the second day on minocin. five different prescriptions of minocycline didn't work. Minocin completely stomped the fms out. I also believe any fms that includes inflammatory symptoms is an infection. fms is a murky disease category.
Curious, did you try borax and experimenting with removing dairy, gluten etc for your RA. It's good to know what didn't work for people."
01/18/2014: Kt from Usa replies: "I am mentioning this because over the last two decades plus I have learned that eating habits are hereditary. If one really examines what is being eaten and in what combination, I feel you may find how true this is. This has not been well accepted but it is my two cents!"
05/24/2010: Scott from Tweed Heads South, Nsw Australia: "I'm looking at a cure for arthritis. I googled the problem ans your site came up. What a wonderful place. Thank you very much for your no BS approach and of course the same goes for the active participants. I purchased a packet of Borax from the hardware and saw that it was a 'Non-toxic alternative'. This product has an Active Constituent: Minimum 980g/kg Borax. The container does not advertise any additional product or ingredients. I mixed ¼ teaspoon in 1 litre of water and shook it until dissolved. On tasting the mixture it had a very chlorine or caustic taste and smell. I decided not to take the mix until I did more research in addition to contacting 'Earth Clinic'. The research led me to 'Pharmaceutical Quality Borax' which cannot be supplied. Can anyone give me any information on normal Borax, Pharmaceutical Borax or and alternative to the treatment of Arthritis?"Replies
06/07/2010: Skoddy from Tweed Heads South, Nsw, Australia replies: "Can someone advise?"
06/07/2010: Lily from Brisbane, Australia replies: "Hi Skoddy, I got mine from IGA the independant store, it was in a round plastic tub in the laundry aisle32 and is 99% borax, I have used it and it hasn't killed me. I'm wondering if the other 1% is just fillers, dust, and whatever comes with the borax when they abstract it. Hope this helps. Lily."
[YEA] 02/14/2012: Gregory from Brampton, Ontario, Canada replies: "I am 54 years old and for the last few years, my knee joints have really been sore. I started to take 5000 IU's Vit D3 per day for the last year or so. That has helped a lot, but I still feel sore, especially in the morning. I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my joints is the psoriatic arthritus creeping in.
I thought, after reading about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. OMG! In one day, the soreness in my knees has vanished! Maybe it is too early to make any assumptions... Can it be true?
Also, my psoriasis seems alot better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day. I guess it it still to early to tell.... but I am amazed so far!!
I shall keep everyone informed on my progress....
I love this forum....."
11/23/2007: Edith from West Palm Beach, FL: "Hi Thanks for this wonderful website! I was reading Ted's answers regarding arthritis and bone treatments. He suggests using Borax 1/8 teaspoonful to 1 liter of drinking water as part of the cure. Originally I am from Hungary and not very familier with the Borax. First I went to the health food store searching for it and it was told me I can get it in the drug store. After this I went to the supermarket and asked the pharmacist for the Borax. She told me I can find it on the laundry detergent's shelf. I have bought a big box of Borax multi purpose household cleaner. My question is this that Borax that I suppose to put in my drinking water?? It looks like people are using it for many different kind of purposes. I am using the ACV w. baking soda with a good result for two weeks. More energy less soreness in my knee. Thanks&Regards,"Replies
06/18/2008: Stew from Berlin, Germany replies: "to the efficacy of Borax-brand boron salt, and concern about purity regarding being sold with mainstream laudry detergent. I point out Baking Soda, in comparison, which typically has no other ingredient /than/ baking soda, also commonly available in mainstream supermarkets. These products simply do not need anything added, and are sold widely. The application is more diverse while the product in unadulterated."
05/15/2010: Soozannah from Burbank, California replies: "Uh, no. Sorry but all of the baking soda you find in your local supermarket also contains aluminum. You have to get aluminum-free baking soda at the health food store, at least to my knowledge. The aluminum-free seems to be of a better quality and really fizzes up when I add ACV to it. Like a witches brew but it does wonders and without further polluting your system with yet another heavy metal."
EC: From: www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php?topic=14397.0
"In striving for clarity, baking SODA is (by definition) sodium bicarbonate, a chemical that is extracted from the ground. It does not contain aluminum nor is aluminum added to it in processing either by intention or through aluminum equipment.
Baking POWDER is manufactured with baking soda as an ingredient and typically includes a compound containing aluminum. Marketing baking soda as aluminum-free is simply a marketing strategy to play to consumers' confusion while charging more for it. As has been noted, no baking soda has aluminum in it."
More info here: http://earthclinic.com/Remedies/baking_soda.html#ALUMINUM
01/19/2012: Lisa from Wattsburg, Pa/usa replies: "Not related to arthritis, but to the post about baking soda containing aluminum and the EC post correcting that to say that it is baking powder that contains aluminum, Clabber Girl Corporation makes an aluminum free baking powder marketed as RUMFORD. I have seen the 4oz and 8 oz containers, and that is what I use in baking. just an FYI."
05/04/2012: Cyber Pony from Miami, Fl replies: "My husband bought arm and hammer baking soda at walmart and I was suspicious about it after using it with Apple Cider Vinegar and after a few days I checked the box and it says it has been made easy pour and to be used for refrigerator etc. And not to be used for baking! I was fuming! It is in the same yellow box! I got some from the dollar store and its consistency seems better, like natural salt. So please beware of the corporations trying to hijack natural ingredients and human beings for their paltry profits.
Blessings to everyone!"
07/22/2012: Sgt from Santa Monica, Ca, Usa replies: "I've been reading for what seems like hours and I'm reduced to tears. I've never been so confused in my life... first reading one thing and then another in a totally opposite direction.
How do I make heads or tails out of all this???"
07/22/2012: Heather from Leicester replies: "Hi, if you are looking for a cure for arthritis go to the top of the page, click on the ailments header and then read the replies. I like the sound of the Joel Wallach remedy near the beginning as I've read his book and he makes sense. I've also read that black strap molasses works. Good luck"
07/22/2012: Tina from Houston, Usa replies: "Sgt from Santa Monica, Ca, Usa, Address your email to Ted who contributes to this site. List details of what's occuring and what you need help with. Hopefully that will get you some concrete results, and less confusion."
09/04/2013: Jack from Tawas, Mi replies: "ACV, as in Braggs ACV, Baking Soda as in Arm and Hammer, Borax as in 20 mule team.... Been using the above by the trial and error method with Ted and many others as co-pilots. It does make you better.. Less pain, returns your body functions to a younger day... No question! LOOK around and see how others use the natural earth products to feel better and enjoy life... I feel better walking, joint relief, aches and pains good bye for under $20.00, THANK YOU TED, THANK YOU EARTH CLINIC"
12/11/2013: Jellybean from Kinston, Nc replies: "After learning to line dance, I have been going out dancing for a year now every Friday and every Saturday night! I have corns on my toes so shoes have always hurt my feet! Suddenly over the summer of 2013 the soles of my feet started to hurt! Have a callus on them! But gosh now I can't walk when I get out of bed from excruciating pain! As the day goes on the pain lessons but never the less it hurts all day and I'm giving up dancing regretfully! Now my swollen left ankle that I thought was just swelling from menopausal fluid retention or high blood pressure is now hurting in the joint! My ankle hurts so bad twirling while doing the waltz is out of the question! Now my knees hurt and the joints n my fingers! Does this sound like arthritis? And I will def try the borax"
[YEA] 02/04/2010: Dianna from Austin, Tx: "borax for athletes foot
after trying everything else you could buy at the store for his pretty much life long athletes foot problem - and not having results my boyfriend finally decided to try the remedy i kept telling him to try... borax - which he thought was poison him instantly but he 'trusted' the OTC stuff at the store!!! LOL
he wet his feet and then took a handful and rubbed it all over his feet.
he said they stopped itching immediately! he was stunned.
a few weeks later i asked him how his athletes foot was and he said: oh wow! it hasn't come back! that stuff totally cured it!!!
now he tells all his friends about borax ;)"
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 02/02/2011: Cassidyok from Fresno, Ca: "We've been using 1/3 cup of Borax in a large hair conditioner bottle--filled up the rest of the way with water. It's easy to use in the shower because it has a pump. My sweetheart has a bald spot that's been bugging him and 10 days ago he decided he would start using the Borax for shampoo and Apple Cider Vinegar (diluted) for a hair rinse.
Today he trimmed his hair and we noticed ALOT of hair on his bald spot. I haven't been checking it because I didn't want to jinx anything or bring attention to him using an "alternative" remedy.
It is really working!! Thank you ever so much for this site. I refer to it often."
08/16/2011: John1230 from Delhi, India replies: "How should I make Hair Wash Solution with Borax. I have lots of Fungus and Dandruff. My hair are now very thin and have lost hair. Also, In India, what grade specification of Borax should I buy.
08/17/2011: Lily from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia replies: "John1230, borax doesn't have a grade, it is 99-100% borax. I can't find the recipe in the ailments or remedies, but put about 1 part borax to 2-3 parts water and pour onto hair and leave in for 10 mins. Lily."
08/17/2011: Phyllis from Selmer, Tennessee replies: "for thinnig hair try Teds recipe of teatree oil, laverder oil, and aloe vera. I did it once a week for 3 weeks and it worked great."
08/23/2011: John1230 from Delhi, India replies: "Thanks Lily and Phyllis.
This is for Ted, I could not find his email address.
My father is 76 Years old and I am from India. Since last 15-17 years he is suffering from Psoraisis all over his body. He tried everything from Allopathy, Homeopathy to Ayurveda. And whatever was suggested by the near and dear ones.
Nothing worked. I find some hope with Borax. However, I would want to know how should the process go about. Also suggest some other remedy if known.
My friends are visiting Thialand very soon. Where can they find Borax which can be injested. Please suggest.
Thanks and God bless all of you."
08/23/2011: Stan from Huntingdon, Pa. Usa replies: "I have been reading some very positive results using coconut oil to treat psoriasis. I am also using coconut oil on some serious fungus with great results. Hoping you find a solution."
09/22/2011: John1230 from Delhi, India replies: "He has tried Coconut Oil and VCO as well. None of them worked."
01/03/2012: Ping Yap from Legazpi, Philippines replies: "On psoriasis:
Try taking cold processed virgin coconut oil 3 1/2 tablespoon daily continuously for at least a month.
Sip a lemon & a pinch of sea salt after to refresh your mouth."
[YEA] 01/12/2011: Randy from Jersey City, Nj, Usa: "Based on recommendations I found on the site, yesterday I tried Borax to help relieve my candida issue. I have had long standing bloating caused by the candida. Just to start off, I took a very small amount (maybe 1/20 teaspoon) of 20-mule team borax in 0.75L water, and drank it throughout the day. By about 4pm, I started having A LOT of flatulence that lasted several hours. Didn't smell bad luckily, but had to go home after work and stay there for a while :)
By the end of the evening, my belly felt empty, with none of the pressure or pain that I have come to live with. Unbelievable! I plan on continuing to use borax for my issues. I will work up gently to about 1/8 or 1/4 teaspoon 4 days a week, for a limit time frame. Anyone interested in trying borax, I recommend it, but please read the borax information on this site, and work up the dosage very gently, it is powerful. Thanks Earth Clinic!!"
[YEA] 09/11/2013: Vital Salts from San Diego Ca: "For those having issues ingesting Borax I would suggest bathing. I had major healing bathing using various mineral salts in a hot bath for an hour a day for six weeks. I had been diagnosed with lyme and associated co infections including candida and cleared most if not all symptoms using bath salts, citrus (vit. C) and hydrogen peroxide in combination topically. I used Borax, Epsom, sea salts and dead sea salts together. I would also add half a bottle of Hydrogen peroxide and scrub my skin with citrus. I used about 4 cups total salt per bath. Soaking the neck and thyroid seems important and I cleared lumps around my thyroid and all sorts of skin anomalies. Whenever I feel sick again from environmental toxins and parasites I just take a few baths a week and it clears my system. I was sick for 8 years and tried western and non-traditional treatments and nothing worked like this bath formula. I never ate borax but did increase ingesting mineral salts, Vitamin C and MSM. I also like to put Borax in my work boots. I noticed a detox from this."Replies
10/11/2013: Yasha from Imnaha, Or replies: "Simple question: How much borax to put in bath? Don't want all that other info. Just HOW MUCH BORAX IN A BATH????? Cannot find a simple answer to a simple question in all of this website! Not really very helpful."
10/11/2013: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc replies: "Hello Yasha from Imnaha,
You ask how much borax for the bath:
If drinking, use 1/20th of a teaspoon in a gallon of water and drink throughout two days.
Yasha there is not an exact science on this. But if you read the material about oral consumption you'll see that VERY little is required. By extension I use proportionally the same for a bath. The absorption will be less than orally consumed but spread throughout the body allows for a diverse transfer to different regions. Less but better applied. Same idea for Epsom Salts baths. I can orally take a magnesium supplement (and I do) but also there is a broader or wider absorption with Salts baths. A very ancient remedy to many maladies.
Best to you,
10/11/2013: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa replies: "One cup per bath. Hope that helps!
~Mama to Many~"
10/11/2013: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa replies: "Uh oh. I just saw the I suggested way more than Dave. Go with Dave. He is basing his recommendation on science. I am basing my on limited experience. My husband did some borax baths and that is what he used. I will say he had no ill effects. He didn't do this long term.
~Mama to Many~"
10/12/2013: Baldev from Maharashtra, India replies: "Hi Yasha,
On this site Ted has recommended 1/4 tea spoon for men and 1/8 tea spoon of borax for women with 1/4 tea spoon of sea salt in one liter of water to be consumed through the day for internal use. Therefore, for bath one cup of borax should be ideal to get some benifit of borax for any health problem you are looking forward, may be don't soak for too long but I feel the concentration should be adequate to get the benefit.
10/12/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa replies: "I have been using 1/4 cup Borax in hot baths for many months now, in addition to many other major & trace minerals w/ only temporary results. Last time I took 750mg Lufenuron prior to bath and did seem to have better results for my fungal issue. Also, as for combination therapy, I have taken Berberine following the bath which seemed to improve the situation."
01/02/2014: Diana from Papillion Ne replies: "How much borax etc did you use in combination for your bath to make 4 cups?"
03/08/2014: Yochana from Andalusa Spain replies: "Hi,
What kind of seasalt do I use and what kind of dead sea salt and how much and how much hydrogene peroxide and is the cheap kind ok? any side effects from these and any problems with borax in tub. Is it safe? Thanks yochana"
01/04/2011: Ginaraye from Waxahachie, Texas, Usa: "Hi earth clinic and ted! I used ted's mange cure on my dog, and a couple of neighbor's dogs, too, thanks so much for that! The borax pointed me to fluoride de-tox and I have pretty much eliminated my fluoride intake. I use ted's borax remedy in my drinking water and paint with iodine occasionally. I still have a stiff neck and creakiness sometimes, though. It just occurred to me it is probably from increased coffee drinking now that it is winter.
Also now that it is winter, I would like a hot bath! What i'd like to know is if borax in the bath water will prevent absorption of fluoride, and if so, how much borax should I use? my city is just now becoming aware of fluoride toxicity and I think we could all use the information! Thanks, gina"Replies
09/27/2011: Kelly from Catawissa, Mo, Usa replies: "I would very much like to know how much Borax to add to the bath tub for fluoride removal. My fibromyalgia and pain has me bed-ridden, and I just found out that tea is high in fluoride. I drink 1-2 pots a day. I also have fluoride in my well water. They do not manufacture fluoride filters for showers or bath faucets, so this seems to be my only choice. I have a big 6' tub. So I suppose I need a ratio. Please advise, as this is EXTREMELY important for my health! Thanks"