Adrenal Fatigue Remedies

June, how were you diagnosed with adrenal fatigue? It's been suspected for me, and I'm waiting for some test results. However, I also noticed that some of your symptoms, and comment on fibromyalgia, made me think of Lyme disease. SO much is not known about lingering cases or chronic Lyme, and many think that it is often incorrectly diagnosed as fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue, even M.S. and Alzheimers. Some of your remedies are similar to things I've used for Lyme disease.

Unfortunately, the testing for Lyme is MAYBE 75% accurate, cases are often not diagnosed and reported if doctors think "It's not in this state", perpetuating that myth, and there are people who have wondered what is wrong with them for years, only to be told by standard medical testing that they're "fine". I was finally diagnosed, 9 years after classic symptoms and a negative test, and 5 years after another negative test. My 1st test this year was 'negative', (after being on antibiotics, which I think can affect the results), my insistence on another led to a positive test and acknowledgement of this disease. The author, Amy Tan, had it for 8-10 yrs before she was diagnosed, http://www.amytan.net/LymeDisease.aspx

and an M.D. in Maryland, Dr. Singleton had it for 8 years before his diagnosis, and was told he had fibromyalgia

http://www.lymedoctor.com/index.html (page 2-3 of his Introduction in his book can be viewed).

The tick is the size of a sesame seed, often not seen, and not everyone gets the bullseye rash. Even the CDC says there may be 10x more cases than known.

Many symptoms are also symptoms of other diseases or disorders.

How did your metal detox go wrong? I am toxic for heavy metals and considering taking action, but being cautious... would love to hear about your experience.

Yves, How did you find out that you were metal toxic?

Hi I would like to know how to make the lemon and baking soda alkaline drink? I am suffering with adrenal burnout and a lot of body aches and painful inflamation, I'm 37 years old but feel 90 because of my chronic fatigue, any helpful suggestions to help ease the joint pain?

Hello Jean,

I don't have your problem but I remember a patient with a sluggish thyroid who was on Vitamin Bl2 injections. When she started coming to our clinic she was taking 2 gr. Synthroid daily for her sluggish thyroid. After talking with her about her eating habits and her other problems, I suggested that she get rid of bleached flour problems and switch to whole grain products including whole wheat flour for making any breads or gravies at home. I also suggested that she get a good Stress tab (Vitamin B complex + vitamins C & E) and take one of them at mealtime and bedtime instead of the one a day that the bottle recommends. When she returned a couple of weeks later for her Bl2 injection, she requested that we repeat her blood chemistries and her thyroid test, which we did. The next day I got a call from the lab and quickly called the patient to inquire if she had doubled her thyroid dosage and started a potassium supplement since her last test, and her answer to both was no and asked me why I was asking her about them. Her thyroid test had gone from low normal reading to a hyperthyroid level and so had her potassium. We solved the potassium level problem by questioning if she was using a salt substitute, which she had started and most salt substitutes are potassium chloride, so we decided she needed to stop that and go back to salt. She was also instructed to stop her thyroid medication for a week & restart it at 1/2 tablet daily and return 21 weeks later for repeat labs, which were looking great. An hour or two of reading in a pharmacology text concerning problems caused by vitamin/mineral deficiencies revealed that B vitamin deficiences cause a sluggish thyroid. So my suggestion is whole grains will help with the vitamin E and magnesium, increasing fruits and vegetables will increase potassium levels and the stress tablets will junp start your thyroid. I also recommend that anyone with health problems stop all carbonated beverages because they stress the kidneys, and anything that stresses the kidneys are going to create problems elsewhere also. Hope you find this information helpful. Google "excitotoxins" and learn all the names they hide monosodium glutamate under and work on eliminating both of the two major excitotoxins our processed foods are so laden with by reading ingredient labels carefully and stop buying anything containing them. You are pretty safe in buying unseasoned frozen vegetables, unless they came from some of the fields that Dr. Mercola says has been using MSG on the crops in the fields for at least a decade. I have found a couple of brands of canned vegetables that list 3 different names for MSG in their ingredients lists, so I have boycotted those brands in my household. If canned vegetables list anything beyond the vegetable, water and salt, I leave it on the shelf. I pretty much stick with frozen or fresh vegetables that are not seasoned with anything but salt.

I have had this problem several times off and on so bad I couldn't get out of bed. I will share with you what has helped me. Used the same vitamins your herbalist had you on except a lot more potassium. Plus I added lugol's iodine several drops a day. But that is what my body needed. Dr's Brownstein book recommends 25 mg to 50 mg. (1 drop equals 12.5mg)I believe is what the book said. The book is name Iodine why you need it and why you can't live without. Then I also used licorice. Which really kick my adrenals in (big help). But if you use licorice all the herb books say you need to supplement with potassium as it depletes it. But for me it is worth it to be able to move around again. I did find a product which I don't think I can mention it combines all these things in caps. lot easier to deal with. Plus it has adrenal cortex extract in it which feeds the adrenals and l-tyrosine. I know how you feel I hope my experince helps some.

Hi, the feedback is fantastic and thanks to all for your info knowledge and help.

I have been professionally diagnosed with CFS and adrenal fatigue. I'm 25, male, extremely athletic and motivated, but hit this stumbling block and my system keeps crashing every 3months or so. I will most likely have to go back to part time work soon as my condition has worsened.

DIET, SUPPLEMENTS, REMEDIES THAT WORK.

I find the symptoms of adrenal fatigue caused by diet or physical elements (such as what supplements to take) have become easiest to manage.

I take the following (BEAR IN MIND ANYTHING ORGANIC IS BETTER IF AVAILABLE)

****REMEMBER IT TAKES WEEKS-MONTHS-YEARS OF A GOOD REGIME TO SEE BENEFITS**

This is by far the most important.

NUMBER ONE REMEDY

Taken at least once or twice especially towards the end of the day when the body is tired before bed with magnesium will help sleep.

1-3 times a day alkalizing drink-

1 LEMON and 1 LIME juiced with pulp,

ACV 1 teaspoon to larger tablespoon,

Combine together in a large jug,

HALF TEASPOON BAKING SODA or double this if you are already balancing with potassium.

{ADD CRUSHED/POWDERED 250MG MAGNESIUM CITRATE (ONLY ONCE A DAY)}

ADD WATER 1 GLASS OR TWO AND DRINK FRESH. *Filtered or distilled water is best with added Sodium Bicarbonate and Macrobiotic Sea salt, leave 1000ml sit over night for super spring water.

Make sure you walk at least 30mins a day at least!!!! Even if you are tired and if your hypo don't run walking creates serotonin or helps it makes you relaxed and sleepy for night you will sleep amazing have less stress. 30min or more of walking a day is a absolute must

NUMBER TWO REMEDY

You must drink plenty of water throughout the day to keep your kidneys flushed, Having 10 glasses of water a day should be a minimum, and homemade super spring water is the ultimate.

These 2-3 remedies are the foundation, they are cheap so when you are not working or low on money or plain can't be bothered because you're over taking a fridge full of remedies remember to continue these DO NOT STOP!!! Ever!

NUMBER THREE

Stay the hell away from sugar, bread and high glycemic index foods!!!! Stay away from oils and saturated fats except coconut oil, your liver needs to get rid of toxins not be working to get rid of oils in your diet.

Eat 6 times a day with nourishing simple meals.. find something that works for you and your taste..

EXAMPLE DAY (what I eat during the working week) portions are about the size of my fist or smaller.

I have been eating like this for 6months all my life I have struggled with weight I lost 34kgs/85lbs and I'm now 96kgs/ 240lbs all over 6months to a year.

1^st meal Breakfast 100g precooked chicken/fish/steak from dinner last night

2^nd meal premade Greek salad (I make enough for a week), cucumber, cherry tomatoes, feta cheese, celery, olives, salami

3^rd meal Lunch healthy homemade fried coconut rice (I make enough for a week) I only use coconut oils. Brown rice is better but not a must. Mix in vegetables or ham or whatever you like!

4^th meal almonds

5^th meal Dinner, Roast meat or tuna salad if I'm lazy, or sometimes I just enjoy seasalt and pepper roast pumpkin and other vegetables alone

6^th meal a banana (helps me sleep) or tuna or somekind of seafood if I need to lose some more fat

More stuff essential supplements

Liquorice root tea/supplement every now and then maybe once daily is great.

DHEA read ted's part on this

Chromium is a must research on earth clinic.

I find a good routine for everything else apart from above is 5 days a week try be strict on yourself, on the weekend don't stress be happy don't worry about your supplements, diet etc, the body needs a break physically and mentally. Have fun and eat healthy if you can but just don't be strict on weekends and you'll find you will be able to stick to a strict schedule.

Take your multis as you need them.

VITMAIN D3 1000IU OR HIGHER daily liquid capsules

VITAMIN A (if you have eyesight problems) continue and lessen once sight or blurriness in vision improves slightly I have found this the best for me.

B vitamins help look into this research it on this sight find out what works best for you

I take Vitamin B12 injections weekly-monthly or as needed it gives me the boost I need to get through slumps and I take a B complex.. Make sure you take granulated lecithin if you are taking lots of B's as it will deplete choline stores. I think Aspirin with B's may help absorb them better maybe with seas salt too.

I have to go to bed now, If anyone has Questions or wants help johnny.healthylife(at)gmail.com

So thankful for this info and the vitamins and amounts that help. I'll be adding some to what I take. And

I have had Adrenal Fatigue for many years now, but it only started getting better when someone with Adrenal Fatigue recognized my symptoms and told me he had it too and he told me what he takes...

Electrolyte Stamina from trace minerals. Been a life saver. Took six tables three times a day with meals at first and weaned off as I got better. Three or four once a day is what I take now.

I also take now take a raw multivitamin called Raw Prenatal from Garden of life.

And learning that my iron was low and causing me more fatigue, I started taking the ionic iron from trace minerals. Can feel the difference within 30 min. Usually I take one dose once a day, 1.2ml or 1/4 tsp. Easy to take in juice. Orange juice or anything high in vitamin C aids in your body utalizing the iron. Milk and dairy inhibits absorption of iron so just don't eat at the same time.

And then rest and sleep and de-stressing my life has been a lifesaver too.

Melissa, for severe adrenal fatigue I would get licorice root solid extract (Tahoma Clinic is the only one that carries it to my knowledge), and take 1/2 teas. in a little water 3 times a day. Take for one week on, three weeks off. Go to bed by 9:00 p.m. every night. Stay away from sugar and caffeine. Find out what the root cause is (mine was 8 large mercury fillings I had in for 30 years) and remove it, by a safe amalgam removal dentist. Don't do vigorous exercise. Oil pulling might help somewhat, but not without the other stuff. E-mail me if you need more info. Best wishes.

Gean: thanks for the quick response. I will definitely try your suggestions. Do you happen to know if there would be contraindications with my 4 antidepressants? I also need to know if the medications should be taken before or after with oil pulling (if I am able to do the OP). Thanks so much!

I don't have much experience with oil pulling - tried it once or twice only - but from what I've read it should be done on an empty stomach, so I would oil pull first thing in AM and do your meds after. I'm afraid I don't have any insight on whether licorice root goes with the antidepressants, and medical doctors seldom can tell you whether the two work or don't work together, but if it was me I would go ahead and do licorice root along with the other meds, but space them out so one is not on top of the other. Like maybe at least 1/2 to 1 hr. apart. Licorice actually has antidepressant properties and is also good for ulcers, canker sores, and inflammation. It will raise blood pressure and long-term use will deplete the body of potassium, hence the 1 week on, 3 weeks off schedule.

Answer about origin of post

*** To EC ***

The text comes from a post from sicknesshope.com i. E.

I know this because I post on that website (and as well as in curezone and many of my posts are on pH balance).

Unlike curezone or earthclinic, people cannot view the post unless registered. Which is a very simple process.

The post and thread relates to the importance of the potassium/sodium ratio.

However there is more. Of importance are the other ingredients of the "Moreless alkalizing drink" i.e. BSM, kelp, ACV, Epsom salt and calcium hydroxide.

I, myself, referred some of my posts in EC to the older AskMoreless forum in curezone.

And lastly, FYI, I was introduced to pH balance with Dr R. Young's books. Later I found Ted's formulas. And later I found the Ask Moreless forum. I can say that I learned a lot from Moreless. His alkalizing drink, which was developed 4-5 years ago, is IMO the best. Moreless knew Dr. Carey Reams, the creator of Reams Biological Theory of Ionization (RBTI). http://www.Newtreatments.org/reams

Anyway, I wanted to let EC know where the original post came from and why I know it.

Thanks again EC for your website.

Alain from Ottawa
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To Faithinhealing -- I suggest that the amount of water being consumed may be the real problem as I have had a similar difficulty. Last summer I fainted and was found to have a very low serum sodium level. When I got out of the hospital, a month or two later, I thought I'd cured myself with sea salt and blackstrap molasses for my low hemoglobin that had also been found. This summer both of these blood levels are low again and I went to an endocrinologist to get her insights. Turns out after reducing my liquid intake dramatically for 6 days (one to two quarts total liquid including btw all juices as well) my strength seemed to be returning and in fact the blood level of sodium was up to 131 from 127. This Wednesday the level will be checked again (2 weeks more now on the reduced liquid) - we'll see. Low thyroid or cancer may also be involved based on the SIADH diagnosis - but we'll see. Perhaps just the much too high intake of liquid is the whole issue. Normal intake should be much more in the range of half your weight in ounces of water per day. 180 pounds - then 90 ounces.

Latest 2 week update - After the two additional weeks on the reduced liquid intake, my sodium has risen to the normal zone - 136 and my red blood cells are also normal now. My hemoglobin and my hematocrit have continued to rise and are closer to normal.

I am only suggesting that it may be simply too much water intake leads to excretion of sodium, and correcting to a much reduced fluid intake may allow the sodium levels in the blood to return to normal.

Thanks for your experience on lowering fluid intake. How has your health improved????

Because of water retention I try to drink plenty of water but someone else suggested NOT drinking too much water because it does mess with the sodium/potassium ratios just as you've stated! Another solution is a sea salt bath WITH PEROXIDE which helps the body detoxify... Or the baking soda bath WITH PEROXIDE! For whatever reason they seem to provide more energy and clarity throughout the day... Quite possibly balancing the lower sodium to potassium rations perhaps indicative of Adrenal issues! The recipe is 1-2 cups of Baking Soda or Organic Sea Salt to 1 Quart of Hydrogen Peroxide.... Also taken from the curezone ask Moreless forums!

I, too, had a serious problem with thirst (would wake up every 90 minutes at night to guzzle a quart of water). I had been limiting my salt intake because I was sick in other ways and was trying to "eat healthy."

Randomly, I would eat a burger or a soup and sleep through the night and feel better. Finally, I realized it was the sodium! I increased my salt intake dramatically and that IMMEDIATELY solved my 2 year thirst problem. Hope this helps somebody!

It is characteristic for people with adrenal fatigue that liquids go right straight through them. Taking too much liquids simply washes out your minerals and we all lack them.

I had Adrenal Cortex Extract injected into my hip weekly when I was at my worst..... It did seem to help in the 80's. I use betafood which has critter components and at first I used 10 a day for a month, felt a lot better. Not sure about my Adrenal supplement. Causes me bloat and burps and once that is over, seem fine. I used a bottle of KELP and it made me feel good.

I would reccommend you read, what your doctor may not tell you about menopause, even if you are not menopausal.... Just for all the medical information. John Lee was an Ob/gyn who loved his patients enough to go agaisnt the status quo. This book covers it ALL........ Love, JOY

Hey Joy.... Thank you so much for your response. I have been reading your posts with interest.... You seem to have a lot going on. I love when you said things were so bad that you called the prayer line.... So reminded me of myself. Keep those posts coming. We all can learn a lot from them. Thanks again, God bless.

Loren: Raw Glandular products are digested as intact proteins that will specifically nourish the identical organ or gland to which they were originated, i.e. Liver, adrenal, kidney, etc. I have been using glandular products for many yrs with noticeable results. I can't speak specifically for adrenal but I would recommend go ahead and try them PLUS other nutritionals or herbs for adrenal like Pantothenic Acid, Tyrosine, and Ginseng.

Thank you so much Timh for all that information. At least now I feel ok to try them. Do you have any recommendations for adrenal supplements that are not tainted with mad cow disease etc. This is my biggest fear. Thanks a million

Thank you for the encouragement.

I quit my protocol until my blood pressure goes back down. Back to square one. For me a setback is a step up eventually!

I had that liver cysts removal surgery that wasn't a success and while they tried to get me off the morphine onto vicodine, I got horribly ill and I asked for the phone.... You guessed it. The lady that prayed for me just went through surgery and knew exactly what to pray. It was awesome! I sat up watching TBN that night... Peaceful... And relieved. WHEW!

I hope you find all your answers without setbacks... Love, JOY

Most Raw Glandulars are derived from hormone free, grass fed (free range) cattle in New Zealand or Brazil/Argentina; what we might label as "organic livestock". The manufacturers of the products do not compromise their integrity on the possibility of any livestock that are sick or infected by a disease. The sick animals are not slaughtered and entered into to food production line, they might, however be used as pet food, feed additive, or fertilizer.

Also, most of these Glandular are processed in a way that would kill any harmful organism; and the process of digestion in the human body (stomach acid) further diminishes any possibility of getting sick. So, I suppose no one has ever gotten ill from taking these Raw products.

Thank you so much for your response. I will certainly give it a try. Thank you again.

Hey Joy... You seem to be one courageous gal. Keep it up. At least you are on the right track. I always pray that sick and hurting people find their way to not only TBN but so many shows out there that can provide so much hope for them regardless of what they are facing. Take care and God Bless.

i love adrenal glandulars. I know a lot of people think you shouldn't take them. But they work for me. I started slow. Tried everything else......didn't work. I think the quality is important. I take them with food. I only need one a day. Hope this helps someone.

I'm also 42 & have Hashimoto's. Your post says you take Synthroid. Have you ever tried a medication made from dessicated porcine (pig) thyroid gland? Synthroid is a synthetic T4 hormone replacement. T4 is the storage form of thyroid hormone. In an ideal situation your body will convert the T4 to T3, which is the active hormone. If your body isn't doing the conversion well it could explain your continued fatigue. Dessicated thyroid contains both T4 & T3. The boost of T3 made a huge difference in my fatigue. I purchase mine from a compounding pharmacy as prescribed by my doctor.

Tami-thanks for the helpful info about the T3. Only problem is I'm a vegetarian, so don't want to ingest from the pig. (ironically enough, I'm fostering a piglet right now!)

Emily, Aww, so sweet of you to foster a little piglet. Cytomel is synthetic T3 and can be taken in conjunction with Synthroid.

MOST people do best on Natural Desiccated Thyroid, the typical synthetic meds are T4 only and may not be able to convert. Natural Desiccated Thyroid has T3. I feel so much better on it and using it for T3CM protocol, every cell and every organ in our body needs T3!!! STTM YAY!!! An answer to prayer for me:)

To anyone else looking in to this, there is an excellent book by Lynn Farrow about iodine and adrenal/hormonal health, and a website or two- even a FB page- dedicated to iodine and how to deal with adrenals before slowly coming off synthroid et al., by using Lugol's.

Loren - try Licorice Root extract. It's an excellent dietary supplement for adrenal fatigue. My adrenals were taxed out at one point but after taking it - my energy levels picked up. But also diet/nutrition plays a big role. Try to get a lot of greens in. You'll feel ten times better!

Hi Loren, I have a supplement here without animal products in it. If EC will allow me to name it, it is "Christopher's Adrenal Formula". It contains mullein leaves, licorice root, eleuthero root, gotu kola, hawthorn berries, lobelia, cayenne pepper, and ginger root, in a vegetable-based capsule. You're supposed to take 2 caps 3 times a day (that could get pricey). Funnily enough the bottle has 50 caps; you'd think they'd even it up to 60 to match the suggested dosages!

Unfortunately I can't give you any testimony as to its effectiveness as I've only taken it sporadically, since my main focus has been working on my Hashimoto's with other things. Bear in mind that herbals do take time to be effective and you might have to take something for months to really know if it's working for you. I see lots of other good recommendations here for adrenal fatigue as well...certainly consider trying some of those as well as a supplement like this one. Best of luck, and if it works, please do let us know!

Thanks for that information on what type of licorice to use. Any suggestions on what adrenal glandulars are safe to use? Thanks

Loren - if you're apprehensive about licorice - consider a supplement called Basic Preventive. It's made by Douglas Labs. They're supplements are pretty high quality. They make them in different versions (ie copper/iron free, glandular based, chelated, etc) The labels read as BP 1,2,3,4,5. Each one has similar yet diff ingredients. Though pricey - I can attest its potency. I took them to help me with an inner ear problem. Definitely gave me a lot of energy and got rid of my brain fog. Only caveat is the pills are BIG and you have to take anywhere btw 6-9 a day (depending on which version u buy).

The purpose of the adrenals, usually bovine, is to give your own adrenals a rest and time to rebuild. This can take several years of eating healthy (that means no alcohol, coffee, sugar or white refined flours)Lots of greens and adequate protein. But use the adrenal fractions only for a period of time I took it for a year, then when you are no longer as stressed take herbal support.

I have found Rhodiola to be excellent for adrenal support. I also use ginseng, licorice and schizandra.

do some research on Maca and Ashwagandha.. both considered adaptogens & reported to help with adrenal fatigue

don't use deglycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL) for adrenal fatigue as the glycyrrhizinated component is the thing that blocks the cortitsol reducing enzyme. the whole reason for taking it is to increase cortisol by preventing its breakdown..

Hi. This is my first time post on this site but I have been perusing this site for quite some time and find this site extremely valuable to people like me and others who want to find alternative measures to ones health issues. I also tried Licorice for my adrenal exaustion but also am concerned about the risks for longer term use. Licorice DID help me but I believe I have found something else which is helping me just as well and has similar methods of action in that it keeps the level of cortisol in your system longer since I suffer from low cortisol. It's a TCM herb called Rehmannia and apparently does not have the risk of raising blood pressure like Licorice can. Apparently it is a very commen herb in TCM given to people with adrenal and kidney issues.

Just a bit of background about my issues. I have been suffering from atypical depression and adrenal exaustion for quite some time. I believe my depression stems mainly from my sub optimal adrenal function. I "used to" drink 3 to 4 cups of stong coffee every day just to get me going. I gave up coffee totally about 4 months ago and it's been a stuggle ever since but I know the caffeine is the worst thing I can have for my low functioning adrenals. The stimilating effect kept my depression at bay but certainly not a long term solution to my problem. I'm really just sick and tired of being sick and tired and any other input would be greatly appreciated. No I am not suicidal so relax LOL.

I would like to ask Ted a few questions if he has the time to answer. Number one, why is it when I take a high B-complex or even just Brewers Yeast that it makes my fatigue and depression worse? Could it be a particular B-vitamin in the complex that makes it worse? Higher dose Vitamin C has the same effect with me. It could be from a detox reaction but I have read that higher dose C can lower cortisol? Is this correct? I certainly don't want lower cortisol. Also, I have a question about melatonin. My circadian rythem must be out of whack. I haven't had a good 8 or 9 hours of sleep a night for many years and the crazy thing is.. Even though I am fatigued during the day I don't feel like I need any sleep if that makes any sense. I'm willing to try melatonin to see if it helps but I also read where even taking 1mg is many more times the amount of melatonin that is secreted normally at night to sleep. Should I try this at a very low dose and only for a short time as to not down regulate normal production of it? My other question has to do with sleep deprivation and it lifting depression. I tried this a number of years ago and it worked for me albeit only for a very short time. Ted do you know the mechanism of action for this? Increased cortisol, or dopamine, or norepinephrine or all 3 that lifted my depression? It was like a light switch went on in my brain.. It was intantaneous and no I am not bipolar nor manic depressive. Ok just one last question.. Sorry... I guess it has been more than a few LOL. Cold Showers DO seem to help give me more energy and relieve my depression but do they exaust the adrenals further for someone like me with adrenal exaustion? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Randy

Dear Ron: Just a thought... often when people have adrenal problems they are also hypothyroid. If your body temps are low you could have this problem. It doesn't necessarily show up on blood tests. Wilson's temperature syndrome website is a wonderful resource. Apparently in the old days hypothroidism was diagnosed by low body temps and depression. A good book is Hypothyroidism the hidden illness, by Dr. Brody Barns.

Hope this helps you.
Mary

I HAVE BEEN ON HERE BEFORE COMMENTING ABOUT HAVING A CONSTANT A FIB PROBLEM AND THAT I HAVE TRIED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING AND WAS GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THE ADRENALS. I READ THAT THOSE THAT HAVE ADRENAL EXHAUSTION ARE ADVISED TO UP THE SODIUM INTAKE AND MY MINERAL ANALYSIS ALSO INDICATED I WAS LOW IN SODIUM. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A HUGE AVOIDER OF SALT, NO CANNED FOOD ONLY FRESH VEGGIES NEVER SALTED EVER. I AVOIDED SALT LIKE IT WAS POISION AND THEN I READ ABOUT NATURAL SEA SALT AND ALL THE MINERALS THAT WERE IN IT AND READ ABOUT HOW SALT NOT TABLE SALT BUT GOOD QUALITY NATURAL SALT AFFECTS HEARTBEAT AND STARTED TRYING SOME SEA SALT AND IT REALLY SEEMS TO BE HELPING MUCH TO MY SURPRISE. COULD THIS BE THE MAGIC KEY? THE FACT I HAVE AVOIDED SALT AND WENT OUT OF MY WAY NOT TO INGEST ANY SALT AT ANY TIME MAY HAVE CAUSED MY A FIB. COULD IT BE SO SIMPLE? ANY ONE THAT HAS TRIED THIS OR CHECKED IT OUT PLEASE ADVICE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT REALLY SEEMS TO FIT THE PUZZLE. SEA SALT HAS AN ANTI ARRYTHMIC EFFECT AND I AM AS SHOCKED AND SURPRISED AS I CAN GET.

Ron, it's a tough one...so many possible paths to take..
addressing the anger would be a great place to start..finding a good
therapist is difficult...(then we get angry at the money we throw at them :))
guided imagery may help as well..
as for the supplements I have had some success lately with a combination of Cordyceps and Korean Red Ginseng. (asian ginseng) Do your own research.
Be careful to purchase a quality brand..Ginseng is recommended for adrenal balancing
especially for men, though can possibly be overstimulating...hard to say how your body will react. (other herbs etc, Ashwaghanda, Magnesium, walking, breathing exercises, eating well, no caffeine! no alcohol..filtered water...positive friends)

I have researched and believe I may have adrenal fatigue also. I have low blood pressure and low temp along with heart palpitations and fog brain also experience aches in shoulders. I found it interesting to hear that someone else other than I also is not much of a salt eater. I avoid salt also and it maybe a cause among others for adrenal fatigue. I also take B complex with vit c and still feel worn out. I feel a little better taking a multi vit and calcium with Magnesium, but still am extremely tired by 3pm. By 3 I feel like the day should just be over and time for bed. I am still searching for something to kick start me come mid afternoon. Any ideas??

Adrenal fatigue: There are a couple of supplements that help adrenal fatigue, and calcium is not one of t hem. They seem to worsen the condition and promote blood clotting, but also restricts blood flow from that also. The other supplements besides vitamin C, magnesium, is the vitamin E, chromium 1000 mcg, and DHEA. Tin deficiency tends to occur with adrenal, but the dose is very low, usually 2 mg-5 mg of Tin chloride. I doubt they sell that, but it seems to help depression that goes with it. The iodine supplement is taken along with the vitamin C 500-1000 mg, 1-2 drops for lugol's solution. During the afternoon, a quick pickup, might be taking some betaine HCl, which adds energy to the body if taken during that time. If there's still problem I have other remedies up my sleeves also. It's important to eat lighter meals during lunch and drink plenty of water during that time, so that the energy of digestion is not depleted from lack of water. It requires the body less energy if water is drank during the lunch hour plus lighter meals. Water acts as a catalyst and allow the food to be better digested.

It's interesting to read all the comments on adrenal fatigue. I am going through menopause. I have fibromyalgia, adrenal fatigue, low blood sugar, palpitations, candida yeast and numerous symptoms that are really ruining my zest for life. I'm in constant pain. I have been tested for many things including thyroid. I'm sure thyroid is a problem though nothing shows up on the blood tests except low B12 anemia and low salt. In fact I get charlie horses if I don't make a point of consuming salt. I haven't been able to exercise because of muscle cramping. The one thing that has helped in the past is to go on a low carb diet was mostly meat, eggs and cheese with green vegetables and other low carb veggies. It totally excludes grain products. I felt better eating this way than any other. B vitamins also help. My life are been an extremely stressful one due to numerous tragedies and it has just taken a toll on my body. I had hot flashes and DHEA helps with that. Does anyone have any solution for the muscle and joint pain? I'm beginning to feel like a hypochrondriac! Any other suggestions would be appreciated. This has to be all tied together. I just don't know how.

Hi Cowgirl,

You mention among all your other ailments that you have candida yeast. I don't know if you mean localized like a vaginal infection or what, but all your symptoms and problems sound like systemic candida. Candida attacks the adrenals and thyroids causing untold misery and yet MDs continue to blow off the symptoms as "all in your head" and regard you as a raging hypochondriac. I have researched candida extensively and believe that when you clear up the candida the "other" problems will clear up also. The best thing I have found for treating systemic candida is a commercial product that I can't mention here, but it is a special probiotic developed in Japan. It contains bacteria that are different than your usual probiotic because these bacteria eat the yeast rathering than just crowding it out. Do a google search on candida and when you find the same stuff mentioned on a number sites, you'll know you've found the right thing.

Hi Ron...The combination of your atrial fib and adrenal fatigue problem might well point to a Magnesium deficiency, since magnesium is a very important electrolyte in your body -- it regulates both the calcium in your bones and tissues as well as the potassium which is balanced by sodium. Magnesium is used and is necessary in over 300 enzyme processes in your body, so Lord knows what else it would cure if you were deficient of this mineral as most of us are. Taking Magnesium is also known to vitally regulate and improve arrythmia and tachycardia in heart conditions. The best magnesium salts to take internally are mag chloride, mag citrate, mag gluconate and mag sulphate(Epsom salts) forms. The dosages recommended for deficiency are anywhere from 800 - 1200 mg of magnesium -- but too much magnesium will generally cause diarrhea -- so, if this happens, just cut back the dosage and continue. I refer to drink 1/4 teasoon of mag sulhate(Epsom salts) in half a glass of water two or three times a day. Magnesium is also known to be a major neural influence on the relaxation part of muscle operation(including heart muscle operation), so if you are deficient magnesium, your muscles would be tense(whose neural influence is governed by calcium).

But the quickest way to up your Mag levels is simply to take a bath at least 2-3 times a week and add 2-3 cups of Epsom salts or mag chloride to the bath water. Stay in the bath for at least half an hour. Your body will quickly absorb what magnesium it needs and in larger amounts than supplementing which sometimes causes diarrhea issues. I simply spray myself after my shower with a small garden sprayer that contains 1 tbspn of Epsom Salts to 8 oz of water(I don't have a bath in my house). I let it just dry and be absorbed by my body. For more info on magnesium, check out these links, which I hope will further interest and convince you as to the uselfulness of magnesium as related to your problems:

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/magnesium.html

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/transdermal-magnesium-therapy.html

http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=49&db=5&C0=74

I'm a 60 year old who has very few problems medically now, either with my body or with stress. But it wasn't always like this. I had candida for 7 years due to my own stressful job I think, and it took me a year of using Ted's alkalizing protocols to get rid of this. Now, free of intestinal candida, I have a phenomenal amount of energy and a much happier outlook. I would, therefore, recommend and urge that you use Ted's alkalizing remedies every day. See this link here for the remedies:

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/alkalizing_formulas.html

I've used all of Ted's alkalizing remedies and I still use them, they simply work as described.

Regarding your anger problems, these might relate to problems in your past. The Traditional Chinese Medical system approach believes that anger and love are both ruled by the liver/kidneys region and since you have adrenal fatigue(kidneys) this could well be affecting you emotionally, causing a hormonal/energy imbalance. Liqourice and sea salt are very good for the intestines and kidney, but I would deliberately add another supplement like Milk Thistle to directly target liver improvement. Once you liver and kidneys are healthy again, your blood and hormone levels should both also improve, and there should be a noticeable improvement in your health and outlook on life.

All the best,

Bill

Hi Ron...I've just found and read the original description of your problem on the Atrial Fibrillation age of earth clinic and I'm truly astonished at the similarities between your candida symptoms and mine (the only real difference being that I did not suffer from adrenal fatigue). Here is a description of my symptoms:

I had candida three years ago. My symptoms were psoriasis, eczma, BM and toilet only once every 4 days if I was lucky, tired and sluggish all day, severe grogginess and brainfog in the mornings, bad athletes foot, jock itch(tinea cruris) and overweight. I also regularly caught colds, flu etc many times a year on a regular basis.

This is what I took to cure candida:

* Ted's alkalizing remedies using either whole squeezed lemon/lime or 2 tbspns ACV plus 1/2 tspn baking soda(Arm & Hammer brand) two or three times a day. This is Ted's Alkalizing Remedy and this is THE NUMBER ONE CURE for Candida in my book.

* One tablespoons of virgin coconut oil stirred into my coffee at least 2 - 3 times a day.

* Blackstrap molasses in my coffee, no refined sugar or aspartame sweetener allowed in my diet. BSM also added more potassium to my diet and also helped to balance the extra sodium from using the baking soda.

When I started this remedy at the beginning, I got fairly severe flu-like symptoms for a while -- it almost seemed as if the remedy was making me worse. But this die off or Herxheimer Effect always happens when you get the fungal toxins released into your blood from microbes and fungus from the die off, so think of it as a good sign. Your liver and kidneys are overworked initially, until your immune system can get on top of it. After this die-off it was easy. All my skin problems just disappeared slowly (except the jock itch -- but that's another story) and I haven't had a cold or flu in 2 years.

I must also emphasize that it took a WHOLE YEAR of using these remedies regularly to cure the candida, because any fungal infection is so hard to get rid of, much harder than getting rid of a virus or bacterial infection for sure.

I also took a daily decoction that I made consisting of three herbs just to support my liver, kidneys, blood and immune system throughout this protocol. The 3 herbs were: Tinospora cordifolia, Chanca Piedra (Stonebreaker) and Tumeric root. I gathered the fresh herbs and made the decoction myself(I live in the Philippines). But you can use other simple herbs such as Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Burdock or Liquorice and Ginseng in support just as well.

The reason I started on the magnesium therapy was that, even after curing my candida, occasionally during the day I would suffer strange regular episodes of dizziness from a racing heart. I don't know what that was, but I took magnesium supplements(800 - 1200 mg/day) as well as sprayed my body with Epsom salts as a means of curing this, and was successful. I have also reduced my mag intake accordingly. As a synergistic aid for absorbtion as well as trying to boost my immune system, I now also take mega-doses of Sodium ascorbate(Vitamin C) dissolved in water -- at least 2 - 4 grams per day in split doses.

Your symptoms are remarkably similar to my symptoms, so with enough determination, there is no reason you can't get rid of both your atrial fibrillation roblem as well as your candida, so please don't give up !!

Best regards,

Bill

Well I have to agree with you because of my experience. I had suspected that I was having problems with candida and because I brought into the spit test I did nothing about it. Each time I did the spit test it was perfect. My stomach kept getting bigger and I didn't know why. One night I threw up a big piece of candida with streamers. Have been treating for candida and my stomach is getting smaller. Hopefully these posts will help to dis-spell some of the the dis-information going around.

Phoenix, thank you for the information about the origin of the spit test. I had rather assumed it originated with Dr. Crook. If it is not reliable, then better to go with the survey-type tests that calculate a score based on symptoms.

As to your assertion that true candidiasis is rare and the inclusion of medical studies that appear to support this--for every study you come up with, I can come up with two that say the contrary. However, I don't want to waste space here on dueling medical studies. That is not what this site is about. While most of mainstream medicine continues to scoff at the concept of systemic candida (as your post illustrates) people who have gone from doctor to doctor in a desperate search for relief from their aches, pains and misery have figured out how to cure themselves and get their lives back. They are sharing how they did it. THAT is what this site is about.

Well said Cindy, agree completely. For over 100 hundred years we have had Modern Medicine and The Germ Theory. And yet, despite all the "advances" made with stem cell research, genome theory, antibiotics, vaccinations, antiobiotics etc, there are still no cures for Alzheimers, Malaria, Cancer, AIDS, Lupus, Parkinson's disease, Obeisity, Diabetes, measles, flu or even the common cold. Where are the outright cures?

I find it very odd that all the pharmaceutical companies seem to invent these days are just fancy anti-inflammatory and analgaesic painkillers, that are not really designed to cure the ailment, but are specifically only ever designed to take down inflammation and remove the pain no matter what your problem or disease happens to be. And all this with the possibility of such awful side-effects.

If I didn't know better, I might also suspect that this drug design practice might fit in very well with their business profit model -- after all, if you are cured quickly by a drug, then noone buys it anymore do they? So, poor profits. But if you can design drugs whereby, even though they don't cure the problem, people will still become heavily dependent on them from the emotional comfort factor -- and will take these drugs for the rest of their life, then this will be very profitable indeed for the drugs companies involved.

Hi The_Phoenix,

Your right about why dis-information gets passed along. I don't think all those who sell remedies for candida have that motive but I do think there are those who should of taken the time to verify the information before using it. I being neither of these and being my own doctor and researcher do the best I can.

As far as blood test and other medical test I am all for them as they can take the guess work out of treatment. The problem in the United States is that many of us do not have the resources or co-operation of some of our doctors to do these test. So if we want to get well we take responsibility for our own health which we should anyway.

Thanks for all your posting and input. It is much appreciated. Keep up the good work.

Azithromycin

I came down with something a while back and was given three huge Azithromycin tablets, one per day, three days. I have not felt so good, so normal, in my life (except when I did an olive oil liver cleanse). Unfortunately, I made the mistake of taking a laxative the last day, and it seemed to eliminate the medication. I have chronic fatigue, constipation, indigestion, cold hands and feet, forgetfulness, gluten/dairy/sugar intolerance, and lately leg and foot pain when I lay down at night. I eat mainly plain yogurt (avoid additives, even pectin), organic green apples, fresh lime/lemon juice, dry apricots, fresh vegetable juices, chlorophyll/algae capsules, a really good multi-vitamin, started on horse chestnut capsules and glucosamine/chrondroiten/msm. Digestive enzymes help a lot, I can feel when I take them. Apple cidar vinegar, sodium bicarbonate, distilled or reverse osmosis water, basil/chamomile/catnip tea, teas for PMS, dandylion root tea. Getting enough sleep really helps with mood and memory. Chamomile tea, valerian root, and Swedish Bitters help with sleep and waking up feeling refreshed. If you wake up tired, try drinking a glass of water and laying back down for a bit. Avoid additives, especially MSG type, eat organic and raw whenever possible. Don't smoke, drink, or do illicit drugs. Coffee and alcohol will prevent you from sleeping properly. I feel differently every day, but lately much improved. Thank you, EarthClinic contributors, for providing such a helpful site, you are all a huge blessing.

I had adrenal exhaustion was a truck driver for 14 years studied alternative medicine for 15 years. Doing great today. Almost every one makes the mistake of trying to treat the symptoms like adrenal exhaustion and what you must do is treat the whole body. We are very complex and systems are dependent on each other. You must treat the hypothalumus and the thyroid and the parathyroid the adrenals and the liver. I will give you a list of herbs and supplements to do all the above and will let you research them and why they are so helpful. Herbs-cordyceps, full spectrum licorice and maca, fresh royal jelly Vitamins- vit c, b-complex, panothenic acid

Here is the rest of the list of products: iodine, dhea, tyrosine, dandelion root tea, milk thistle extract (silymarin) sole from himalayan salt.

One of the most important things is to sleep 5 hours straight without raising your head above your body. It takes 5 hours to completely recharge your adrenals. When you get up they quit charging and start working. The most common problem is going to bathroom a lot at night. If you have this problem, no caffeine 5 hours before bedtime, reduce fluids 2 hours before and take bee propolis.

I agree with treating the whole body... For me using 3 T. Of coconut oil a day... Kelp... Bee pollen (pantothenic acid)... aceola powder (vitamin c)....1/2 lemon squeezed in hot water first thing in the morning and before bed... Raw garlic (adaptogen)... And tumeric (helps cleanse the liver and great for adrenals and helps decrease toxic estrogenics in the body)... And himalayan sea salt all seem to help me remineralize and rebuild my immune system. I might also add that unsulphured black strap molasses also helps to provide the minerals... In addition to kelp and sea salt... All great for remineralizing!

Tried to change the subject of this message, but I can change it from SUPPLEMENTS. I never got a cortisol or saliva test, but I am sure that I have been suffering on and off with this for a couple of years. The symptoms, sleeping half the day, drinking pots of coffee with no result, aching joins, night sweats, brain fog etc. This resulted from a long period of stress and anxiety coupled with a processed foods diet.

I had a swollen Thyroid a couple years ago, as well. Kelp with natural iodine really helped that. Iodine is what your body makes thyridozine out of, and your body mistakes flouride for it.

The book, "The Mood Cure" really helped me to understand. All of these different hormones, including sarotonin, are made in the body by converting different amino acids.

L-Tyrosine supplements almost basically cured my adrenal symptoms within a couple of days. I was also told that I had polycystic ovaries, causing my menstruation to cease. This came back and has been regular since. Half of your sex hormones are made in your adrenal glands until old age, when all of them are instead of your genitals.

L-Tyrosine and L-Carnitine are amino acids that are listed as ingredients in popular energy drinks. This is why they give such an energy effect. It is nourishing.

I just wish I knew of specific foods that are rich in these. I've just done my best to get free-range meats and eat all natural and do some healthy yoga-type exercises.

But, I've been under a lot of stress lately and haven't taken L-Tyrosine. I can tell I need to again.

I agree that everything is part of the whole body. I have adrenal fatigue in addition to a bunch of other stuff. My chiro said it best "There's only one disease. The Brain is not controlling the body properly." I couldn't agree more. I recently found a vitamin kit online that is smell sensitive. The vitamins are numbered 1-20 and I did NOT look at the individual names just to see if what I was deficient in (by smelling you can tell)... Was what went along with my diagnosis (Lyme, low DHEA, adrenal, thyroid, etc. ). And guess what the vitamins that I needed the most based on smell were all the B-vitamins except for b12 because I was taking 5grams a day of this already. I especially needed B5 pantothenic acid.

Anyway I also take Rhodiola and 5htp for good nights sleep. Sleep is so important and that's one way for the adrenals to get restored.

What I've learned (which is contrary to modern medicine) is that when people are in chronic pain... There are usually MANY, MANY systems out of whack. My gut, adrenals, immune system, joints, neurological, etc. This affects that which affects this which affects that. Slowly but surely I'm addressing each and am feeling better. Am I at 100%, no. But it took years to get to this "messed up" stage and it's going to take some time to get out.

I also maintain a positive attitude and try to meditate and read psychoanalytic books that help with stress. It's a slow process but I already am feeling much better than I have in over 2 years! Good things can happen, you just have to be committed. :) and positive no matter what!

It is important to take sea salt and NOT table salt. I used to feel terrible thirst for over 15 years and water would not quench it. Even fresh orange juice (from our trees) would make me even more thirsty. It is only when I started having Himalayan sea salt - a bit on my tongue followed by water - that I recently noticed that I don't have that unquenchable thirst any more. I definitely increase the salt on my tongue whenever I have fruit etc. as I start to get a lot of saliva in my mouth.

I think that taking 5 mg of lithium orotate could help your stress levels/anger issues. You can take it twice a day and increase the dosage. It is safe and effective for most anxiety related issues. Dr. John Gray has some You Tube videos about it.

Hello Bee from New York,

Re Adrenal fatigue testing;

Yes the whole endocrine system can be evaluated. I had one done fifteen years ago by an alternative MD via Saliva test and sure enough the adrenals were very low. The MD put me on glandular supplements of "raw adrenal" and in a matter of weeks I could tell the difference. I still take the raw adrenal glandular supplements a few times weekly.

I had used raw adrenal caps earlier in my life and they helped then too, but had not been tested at that time for whether the adrenals were deficient; just a shot in the dark.

One raw adrenal I see has an ingredient - Raw Adrenal Tissue (bovine). Is this the ingredient you used?

Just tried p-boost after reading some reviews about it. Worked good but pretty pricey. The trial was free but you have to pay for the shipping which was quick. Anyone know any coupon codes for p-boost.com?

Totally agree there's psychological aspect. I read the book of late psychoanalyst Edmund Bergler "Tensions can be reduced to Nuisances" Brillant work. It helped a lot.