Cure Demodectic and Sarcoptic Mange

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Ted's Dog Mange Cure (Most Popular)

WARNING!!!
DO NOT CONFUSE BORAX WITH BORIC ACID!
DO NOT USE BORIC ACID IN PLACE OF BORAX!

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes, "The best cure for dog mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me."

More Exact Measurements (excerpted from various emails on our Reader Question & Answer Section)

Ted replies, "A definitive recipe is add 1-2 tablespoon of borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. To make a 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1%, roughly get one part of 3% H2O2 plus two parts of water. Then apply them on the dog. Wash with this solution daily, no rinsing. If it doesn't go away, I have found mites, or mange to have a large "beehive" hidden somewhere. In which case, quarantine the dog in a small area that is 100% sterile."


"Approximate measurements are 1 bottle of 500 of 3% H2O2, plus 1000 of the cc of water, plus heaping 3 tablespoons of borax. Stir until most of borax is dissolved. The borax is past the point of saturation here so you will see some borax around. Technically the concentration is around 1.5% H2O2, and this is a bit stronger because by the time we finish with it, the H2O2 gets reacted with other things, and by the time we used it is is usually ends up near a 1% solution anyway."

"You need to get put as much borax until it no longer dissolves in a pail of water and forms a precipitate. This is a saturated solution of borax. Add H2O2 to about 1% concentration to a pail of water. Soak the entire dog, several times. Keep the dog wet for some time. The borax will destroy the eggs from laying under the skin which causes the mange. Get some solution and spray or use this to wipe all floors so the dog will not get re infected. Repeat this every week when bathing. This is not a perfect cure, but it my dog now no longer have mange. My dog was completely cured. You can try other chemicals such as sodium perborate, which is more convenient since you don't need to add the hydrogen peroxide."

"The solution (borax or preferably sodium perborate) is to be applied AFTER the shampooing and rinsing. The sodium perborate should remain on the dog after the bath. You will not rinse this at all. It must remain on the dog throughout the day so that it will act continuously on the bugs."

"However, I do recommend a less toxic form of borax, which is sodium perborate if you can find one. The secret is that borax (plus hydrogen peroxide) will work better then most other remedies I have tried, this includes mineral oil, neem oil (no, neem oil does not kill the mange as effectively as sodium perborate) I have tried it. In my "mange colonies" and commercial brands to kill insects don't work. Hydrogen peroxide DOES NOT KILL mange, I USED IT SIMPLY USED IT AS A CATALYST for ordinary borax in case you cannot obtain sodium perborate. Mineral oils simply prevent oxygen from reaching mange, but that didn't stop it. I have tried naphta, bentonite clays, DMSO, potassium permanganate, light fluid, etc. They all worked temporarily, and it just came back. I must make a strong statement that the formula (borax+h2o2 or sodium perborate) works bests and it is broad spectrum. You can use it to control mange, mites, fleas, and lyme disease (initiated by those crawly insects). I have actually compared side to side with neem oil, mineral oil, apple cider vinegar and others here in Bangkok and this is the most wide spectrum cure I have found. Borax prevents denaturation of DNA/RNA in dogs and I currently use this as life extension for dogs. For example a ribose sugar, deoxyribose sugar, and various sugar that causes accelerated aging in dogs can be slowed down with supplementation of dogs indirectly when you do the borax wash. "

"Prepare peroxide 1% solution, add 2-3 tablespoon of borax to that cup. Stir and wait for a couple of minutes for the borax to dissolve. The formula doesn't require an exact science. The importance is to add enough borax until the solution is no longer soluble and well past saturation."

"...The reason why it is not working is YOU CANNOT RINSE THE DOG OF borax and peroxide solution with any shampoo or water. After bathing the dog, keep the dog that way, no drying no rinsing. This is why the dog has not improved. Also BORAX is added DIRECTLY to the 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and no water is added separately, otherwise the solution is too weak."

TED'S UPDATE
7/12/2006: "I have reviewed all the dog's mange treatments both by my own tests and by many contributors. It appears that many people have trouble obtaining materials, such as sodium perborate hydrate, so I revised the remedy to hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution applied only once or so every week. The solution of sodium perborate hydrate is very much similar when borax and hydrogen peroxide is added. Some have either substituted hydrogen peroxide with benzoyl peroxide.

The problem about benzoyl peroxide is the upper limit by which you can use it without effect the dog as it is somewhat more toxic if given beyond a 10% concentration. 5% is usually a safe concentration. Benzoyl peroxide because of its toxicity is somewhat of an insecticide, while hydrogen peroxide is not, what it is in the original formulation is that it is a penetrant allowing the borax to go through the skin. Now some did not like hydrogen peroxide due to its limited supplies, so they make use of apple cider vinegar. For me a regular vinegar will do. Both a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide has two similarities. It is both a penetrant and when added with a safe insecticidal material such as borax, which has an toxicity on LD 50 equivalent to that of salt, this is the preferred method. However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax.

Boric acid is not recommended for use as it is much more toxic than borax. Borax's toxicity is about 3000 mg/kg, which is the equivalent toxicity to about that of salt. (check wikipedia). The idea is to make a solution of borax so that the solution can cover the entire body and penetrate through the skin of the dog to kill the demodex mites, for example. To use a spot treatment by pure powder will take an infinitely long time as it does not get to it through the dog's skin.

In some cases, people have tried neem oil, mineral oil. Both of these have similar effectiveness, but in different ways. Neem oil prevents the Demodex fleas from laying eggs by modifying their hormones, while mineral oils are moderately toxic only to the demodex eggs, not necessarily killing them. However, both are very limited based on my tests in really killing the insect. You see borax will both kill the eggs, modifying the hormones and their eggs by drying them all at once. The weakness of borax is limited solubility and limited penetration of the skin which you need either vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (toxic), MSM or DMSO solution. Ideally 10% DMSO should be preferred.

Pine Sol has limited insecticidal effectiveness, being a contact insecticidal, and does not provide lasting killing power once it has evaporated and does not kill living fleas, but it does kill their eggs somewhat. Only a fairly concentrated solution works and it does not prevent re-laying of stray eggs by the dog. In other words, the use of neem oil, mineral oil, benzoyl peroxide, and vaseline will not prevent the recurring of mange since eggs are not just on the dog, but can be anywhere in the house. Therefore re-infection is at issue. The one magic that borax has over its neighbors is that the borax powder that the dogs leaves in the house will kill the eggs even after the dogs no longer has mange and re-infection is therefore next to impossible. However, borax has limited effect on killing the larger mites and fleas, but not mange.

I found that adding 1/8 teaspoon per liter of water of borax added to the dog's water will cause the larger fleas to dry up and die at the same time. My dog for some reason likes to eat something like more than 1 gram of the sodium perborate crystals whenever he feels sick and the fleas just die off. The borax modifies the dog's blood and kills the mange inside out. This is why borax, i.e., sodium perborate, is required for mange, but not anything else due to preventive re-infection of the mange by the powder of the borax that destroys the eggs where the dog sleeps and where it walks around throughout the house.

VASELINE: The problem about using vaseline as an insecticide is that it has limited killing of eggs, but its weakness is that it is not a penetrant, and therefore the frequency of applications will take at least once every other day. Additionally, the hair of the dog will prevent proper application.

Some have went so far as to not use a solution of borax with hydrogen peroxide as a rinse then followed likely, perhaps a borax powder after bath. On the argument of being effective only as a spot treatment. Since dogs do not have sweat glands, not using a rinse will prevent the borax from absorbing into the skin to kill the mange under its skin. So this is not going to work. You need both borax as an insecticide, the water as the solution which to spread it to the skin surface, and a reliable penetrant to get it through the skin, such as vinegar, msm, DMSO, or even hydrogen peroxide. A benzoyl peroxide is both a penetrant and insecticide, but at higher concentration is somewhat toxic for dogs and as a result you are pretty much limited by the maximum concentration not to exceed beyond 5% being a preferred safety. I would prefer to limit myself at 3%.

I therefore suggest, not to get you lost in the woods, is that whatever formulation you use, always stick with borax and borax derivatives, such as sodium perborate monohydrate being the main insecticidal chemicals for the dog.

Pyrethrum is o.k. but in very low concentration of about 0.1% - 0.2% to prevent skin irritation for the dogs near the skin infection areas. The second mix you need is always the penetrant and the third formulation is appropriate dilutions in water. To provide lasting killing effect, non of these chemicals should generally be non-volatile insecticidal mixtures, which unfortunately most recommended are, with exception of perhaps borax and bentonite. Bentonite causes eggs to dry, so they can be used also, but they have no insecticidal mixture as borax and borax can performs both killing the insect, modifying the hormones to prevent egg laying, becomes a stomach poison for the insect, and at the same time causes their eggs to dry up.

I therefore will remain very flexible about what penetrants you use including hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (limited concentration), and vinegar. It must be noted that when formulating any mange it must be noted that they must be non-volatile and the chemicals should cause microscopic residues around the house so that re infection of mange is prevented, including mites and fleas.

I think this wraps up the basic theory and application of mange treatment, and hopefully other people will make a more effective formulations in the future at least equal or better than the original formula I have proposed. Just want to tell you that there are many ways you can treat mange, but the issue is one of toxicity, re infection, toxic levels, which portion kills it and how, and which is the penetrant which is the key to it all. Penetrant is important, the chemical must reach the target demodex under the skin. Usually hydrogen peroxide, vinegar, DMSO, and MSM will do that. It must be reminded again that borax, to work most effectively, is to prepare a solution without washing it off, followed by a small amount of borax powder to be applied if you wish. Any other application other than this such as using as purely powder form is NOT going to work.

[YEA]  11/17/2009: Pierre from Phuket, Thailand: "Hi everyone. I tried Ted's remedy Borax Hydrogen Peroxide mixed with water, and I can tell you it made a difference with my 3 dogs.

Suffering with Mange for the last 4/5 years .. just nothing .. paying tons of bills to the Vets ... and miserables dogs at home ..

I find that the apple cider vinegar can help and start to mix couples of spoons with the dogs food with some Virgin Coconut oil, after couple of days I start with Borax/Hydrogen Peroxide -

1/ One Litre of 6% Hydroegn Peroxide mix with 30/40 tablespoons Borax in 10 Lt. water but be careful not so hot the water. I apply to all body and left the dog wet do not dried. Twice a week for one and half mouth, was fine in my case ( now not any more flea or ticks )

2/ Twice a week I was spraying with Hydrogen Peroxide and distribute the Borax to my garden, every where, the colony of ticks and fleas .. impossible to tell you .. they was billions!

3/ I give some Fish oil -1000 mg per dogs/day and after I switch to VCO ACV definitely thats work, now my dogs have a perfect hair and in top health.

4/ For the food once a week I give raw meat, plus some veggies plus the cheapest fish we can find in the market.

5/ Do not forget the Turmeric .. my two Golden they have some Arthritis and that improve so much. 1 TS per dogs and they loved

Hope that help and Thanks to Ted and to this wonderful site.

Good luck Pierre"


[YEA]  11/15/2009: Dianne from Houston, Tx: "My dog has been constantly itching for months. I have had two different vets look at her, and they each thought it was some sort of food allergy. One thought it was a flea allergy however I use Advantage every month and have not found a flea on her anywhere. Last week I noticed how thin her hair was getting on her rearend, and googled the symptoms. I found your site and now believe she has had mange all this time. I went to the store immediately and put together the concoction. She had INSTANT relief. I waited 3 days and did it again yesterday. She is calm, sleeping well, and not itching at all. Thank you Ted, for your receipe!"


[NAY]  11/11/2009: Mimi from Arlington, Tx: "I've been following Ted's mange cure instructions on my chihuahua for 4-6 weeks, shampooing him with a benzoyl peroxide shampoo from the vet and then using Ted's dip once a week. I also use just the dip another 1 or 2 times a week. I've had no change in symptoms on my dog. Recently he ran away and ended up at an animal hospital. When I picked him up, they had done a skin scraping and said that his infestation of mites was still very bad. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong since so many others are having good luck with the treatment. I've added a chicken, rice, vegetables home made diet to his menu along with fish oil supplements, echinecea, to build up his immune system. I'm about to try the Mitaban dips but really, really, don't want to due to the chemicals in it and due to the cost of the dips. I need to get my puppy better soon. He's been sick for a couple of months now. Does anyone have suggestions?"


11/04/2009: Jack from Tyler, Tx: "Mange: Trying to set up measurements correctly and do not understand how much 1000 cc of water is. Can you put that in oz, quarts or gallons for me.

Thank you"

EC: We used the google calculator for this:

1000 cc = 4.22675284 US cups
1000 cc = 33.8140227 US fluid ounces
1000 cc = 1.05668821 US quarts
1000 cc = 0.264172052 US gallons


[YEA]  11/04/2009: Mama02girls from Moundsville, Wv: "Tried the mange cure when it got bad. Had to do it three times. First time I did not spray the dog's house and it came back. Second time I did not spray the grass where he lays and it came back. After the third time of it coming back I bought a childs swimming pool, mixed one bottle of peroxide with Ted's recommended mix and kept pouring it over the dog, re-using the stuff that poured off of the dog into the pool. When I felt he was doused enough, I used the extra to spray his house and the grass. (it was a bit dirty but I figured it didn't matter.) Well, it's been months and it didn't come back!!! My cat also had a patch (she is the dog's best friend and lays with him in his dog house.) Only one application for her and it was gone. Thanks Ted!"


10/31/2009: Fatoba from Rivers/Portharcourt, Nigeria: "AFTER CURE

My 6months old Rott has mange, iam still trying some of the remedies found on this page.

My question is :- Can a cured dog from mange be used for breeding purpose.

Thanks i expect your response."

Replies
12/10/2009: Skywalker from Denver, Colorado replies: "Read reasons for getting mange is a suppressed immune system. ie there are other problems so not to say definitly no, but you may be passing on the problem. Talk to a breeder you trust and good luck !!

This was in regards to breeding a dog that had mange."


[YEA]  10/29/2009: Abby from San Marcos, Texas: "Hi

I thought my dog just had dry skin from flea shampoos I'd been using and when people saw him they'd say I think he has mange! I found this web site and bought some Borax. I have treated him with the 3% peroxide diluted with water and a Tblsp Borax per cup of solution. I've done it three times and his hair is coming back and it seems to be working!!!!! I have also been putting olive oil on his dry skin and he's just itching like a normal dog now instead of a maniac! Thank you so much ... you've saved me hundreds of dollars in vet bills.."

Replies
11/11/2009: Rose from Tampa, Fl replies: "I am a bit confused.... Did you use those measurements for the daily spray??? And how much peroxide did you dilute with how much water??? Thank you my dog is in a lot of pain and I'd like to figure this out asap!"


10/29/2009: Doris from Miami, Florida: "Hi,

I would love to start Ted's Remedy for mange but I've been to several Home Depots' but I can't seem to find Borax anywhere. Please help any suggestions??

Thank you,
Doris"

EC: Try your local grocery store - laundry aisle. Publix sells it, also Walmart!


10/29/2009: Jasmine from Stockton, Ca: "I have been using Ted's remedy for 1 week on my 5 month old pit for DEMODECTIC MANGE. I mix 4 cups warm water to 2 cups hydrogen peroxide and stir in 6 tablespoon borax. I pour the solution over my dog while she is in my bath tub, paying close attention to the spots that are affected. And using a cotton ball soaked in the solution to get around her mouth and around her eyes. Then I sprinkle a bit more borax over her coat. I let her air dry. I have read this as being a dip. Should I have her completely submerged in this solution for a period of time? Or am I okay with pouring it over her coat until it is completely gone? She is miserable and cold when the whole thing is over and I want to make sure I am doing it effectively. Also how frequently can I use this solution on her? I have done it twice in one week. Can I use it every day? I have also changed her diet to a high protein and low carb diet adding raw meat twice a week."


10/25/2009: Tess Djo from Paranaque, Metromanila, Philippines: "Hi. I've just tried the borax-peroxide treatment for my lab, Ezra. His mange is so bad that he's got no more hair on his legs and neck and part of his face. I just hope it will work coz' Ezra have been through a lot-amytrass, ivermectin,anti-biotics, all the works. I bought borax at Alysons Chemicals (they're in Yellow Pages) for only PhPeso 57.50 per kilo (very cheap indeed!) My question is, can I also use the mixture for my other 3 dogs who do not have mange? I was thinking of using them for say, once-a-month, as a preventive treatment.

Thanks and hope to hear from you, guys...Tess djo"


[YEA]  10/23/2009: Belle from London, Uk: "Hi,

I rescued two 4mth old staffie pups with severe sarcoptic manage, unfortunately one of them had to be euthanised due to the severity of the mange and infection - thankfully one of them is now doing well, but i am using the borax solution every third day at the moment as the mange was so severe (she has no hair whatsoever). Her skin is very dry and i want to help her as much as i can, therefore would it be safe to bathe her in extra soft baby shampoo and maybe apply baby lotion afterwards (inbetween borax dips) to help ease the dryness? If not, what else can i use/apply to increase the condition of her skin. I have also been feeding her multi-vits for dogs as i think she needs all the help she can get.

The mites also seem to favour my arms so i tried Lyclear derma cream but the bites increased, so now i'm using the solution on myself which seems to be working quite well (fingers crossed).

NB: When making the borax solution ensure you follow the directions to a tee or it won't be effective!"

Replies
11/30/2009: Belle from London, Uk replies: "For severe cases visit your vet for Advocate, within days my staff's condition improved - the borax solution helped but she needed additional intervention.

Also due to changes in the EU, borax is no longer available, only borax substitute - will this be as effective?"
03/16/2010: Tracy from Anaheim, Ca replies: "Hi,

I've set up a backyard kennel, beneath a weatherguard roof for my dogs during the treatment period. I'm trying to keep it a cloth free environment, so very little inside the 13x7x6 space except a water bowl, their food and toys, and their blanket at night (which I take out after they eat/play/sleep). The weatherguard has plastic panels that roll down and zip to keep them warm from the wind at night. But we're in spring in southern CA so the temperatures are lovely and not extreme.

Just wondering should I also treat the concrete and kennel fence with the borax solution? I only want to go through this experience once. Period! And I was reading they stay alive in moist environments, but wasn't sure if that was moist water on grass/concrete, or moist on the animal? Both

It sounds like a stupid question but just covering all my bases ...

Thanks,

Tracy
tracy.timoteo@gmail.com"
07/08/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Usa replies: "BELLE FROM LONDON; IT'S SAD THAT YOUR OTHER PUPPY HAD TO BE PUT TO SLEEP; I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR PUPPY IS KEEP TRYING THE PEROXIDE AND BORAX AS RECOMMENDED BY TED'S DIRECTIONS IN SMALLER AMOUNTS; I HAD TO DO MY KITTEN THAT HAD SEVERE MANGE AS WELL AS AN UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTION, BUT I FOLLOWED TED'S DIRECTIONS AS BEST AS I COULD, IT IS ROUGH AND STRENUOUS SOME TIMES BUT WELL WORTH IT'S REWARDS. JUST TRY KEEPING AN EYE ON YOUR PUPPY SEE IF HE GETS TOO THIRSTY, HIS/HER EYES SHOW DISCOLORATION, URINATION MORE THAN USUAL(I DOUBT WILL HAPPEN), BUT OTHER WISE NOT MUCH TOO WORRY ABOUT, THANKFULLY MY KITTEN HAS SURVIVED IT SO FAR AND NOW AFTER MANY MONTHS I HAVE TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN, BUT SHE IS A STRONG TROOPER AND WORTH ALL HER WEIGHT IN GOLD AND THEN SOME.

I ONLY HAVE TED AND A FEW OTHER'S TO THANK FOR THEIR GREAT AND ACCURATE INPUT. THANK YOU, GOOD LUCK"


[YEA]  10/13/2009: Michael from Carlsbad, San Diego, Ca Usa: "My 9 year old Weimerainer has had a systemic yeast infection for approximately 10 months. Symptoms include significant body odor, minor hair loss (patches), redness in the paws,ears etc, We have taken him to 3 different vets and have been prescribed several different shampoos, veterinary foods, ketoconazole, antibiotics and antihistamines. None of these remedies have worked and have cost hundreds of dollars. We have been recommended to an allergist which would have cost over a thousand dollars US. Thankfully, I found Ted's Borax and Hydrogen peroxide remedy. I am on my third day of daily treatments of borax/peroxide baths and Omega 3 oils in food and have seen a miraculous transformation. My dog is completely odorless, the redness is clearing up and he is not itching or licking his paws. And the cost of the treatment was about $10 US total. Thank You Ted for the suggestions - they have made a significant difference"


10/10/2009: Amber from Montgomery, Tx: "my 11 month old puppy has demodectic mites the vet said it is not contagious and he also said it is genetic from her mother would this treatment still work for what she has and i have 3% hydrogen peroxide so for a little rat terrior how much borax how much peroxide and how much water do i mix with it?"


10/02/2009: Dennis from Hampton Roads, Va: "Demodectic mange

Got the measurments ok, but I have a question about sterilizing the home. If I'm not mistaken I've read that demodectic mange is not contagious. My dog has demo so do i need to go thru all of the steps for the house as if he had sarcoptic?"

Replies
03/15/2010: Kathy from Manassa, Co replies: "Yes, you will need to treat your house, or your dog will be re-infected."


09/30/2009: Kelle from Mae Hong Son, Mae Hong Son Thailand: "I've been treating my dog for mange on & off her entire life. I can't wait to try the natural remedy suggested but where does one find Borax in a small Thai town? Any suggestions Ted?

Thanks. Kelle"

EC: Hi Kelle: Check the Borax page: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/borax.html -- at the end of the section there are "Where to Find" posts. None mention Thailand, but might give you a clue where to find it.

On the same page you will see the follow post from Ted:

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "Most borax I buy is a B.P. grade and a U.S.P. grade borax from a chemical supplier. Those are grade are often used that are pharmaceutical grade. However, those that are gotten from natural sources (e.g. borax) and go relatively unprocessed, that is unadded of additives or anything are often labeled 100% Sodium tetraborate or Borax. Without anything else."






 



 

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