Ted's Borax & Peroxide Mange Treatment for Dogs

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Posted by Joe (Wirral) on 06/26/2014
★☆☆☆☆

Is using distilled water alongside the hydrogen peroxide & borax essential to the effectiveness of the demodectic mange treatment?

I have been using de-ionised water instead but am yet to see any improvement in my dogs skin after 6 dips, thanks.

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/27/2014

Hey Joe!

My experience with using Ted's Mange Remedy is that if after 6 dips - and I use filtered tap water to mix mine up - if you aren't seeing any progress you are not dealing with mange.

What symptoms, exactly, are you seeing in your dog?

Replied by Joe
(Wirral)
06/27/2014

Thanks for the prompt reply, I'm pretty certain it's demodectic mange. He was diagnosed with it 6 months ago after skin scrapings and was treated using a mitaban dip which did seem to work very well, although I suspect we didn't do enough of them to clear the mites completely and over recent months they've started to proliferate again.

His paws are balding red and flakey, his chest is balding red and warm to the touch and he has some boils around his muzzle but there is no itching or discomfort whatsoever - exactly the same symptoms as last time. I've also dealt with sarcoptic mange before so know it's definitely not that.

I just wanted to avoid sedating him for more skin scrapings at the vet and using the toxic dip again which will only suppress his immunity further. This seemed to be the perfect solution (which I still believe it is reading through the comments) when executed correctly.

I think I did read among the comments here that if you don't use distilled water the minerals in normal water will 'override' either the H202 or the borax, so to speak.

It's not that bad at the moment so I have time on my side before heading back to the vets, perhaps I should start again using only distilled, or filtered water?

Lastly, I was adding between 5-10 tablespoons of borax to the solution which seemed a fair amount, should that be enough? Thanks in advance...

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/27/2014

Hey Joe!

I think your problem might be the ratio - it sounds off to me.

This is what I do. I buy the hydrogen peroxide from the grocery store- it comes in a brown bottle, it is 16 oz, and it is a 3% strength. I get the borax from the laundry aisle - it should be plain with NO scent [not sure if they make a scented but just in case, you want the plain]. I usually have a gallon jug to mix in. I pour the hydrogen peroxide into the jug and I refill the hydrogen peroxide bottle with water twice [so add 32 ounces of water] and empty into the jug. You now have 48 ounces of a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. To this I then add 1 heaping cup of borax. You should see unmelted crystals of borax in the mix. If you do NOT see undissolved borax crystals in the jug then you are not using enough borax. So add the heaping cup of borax and MORE so the crystals stop dissolving; this is what is called a 'saturated' solution - and is the strength required for best results.

I usually fill tub with warm water and set the jug in the warm water, and then I bathe my dog normally with no special shampoo; I rinse well, and then pull the plug and let the tub drain. I use my hands to 'squeegee' my dog's coat to get as much water as I can out of the coat. Once the dog is hand dry and the tub empty, I plug the stopper in and then pour the now nice and warm jug of borax solution over the dog. I keep a plastic cup handy and use that to scoop up solution from the bottom of the tub to pour back onto the dog. I have a wash cloth that I use to sop up the solution so I can get the head and ears saturated with solution as well. Keep the dog in the tub for at least 10 minutes - the longer the better, 30 minutes is ideal IMHO. Keep pouring the solution over and over. After 10-30 minutes I put the soaking wet dog into a crate with no bedding and let the dog air dry for half an hour. During this time the wet solution is still working. Turn up the heat, cover the crate with a blanket - do what you can to make your dog comfy while you wait out the next half an hour. After that I allow the dog out to fully air dry and may rub down with a towel to work off the undissolved borax crystals.

If your dog is as bad as you say, I would use this stronger solution every other day for three dips and see if you see any improvement. When I did this my own dog felt better immediately - she got the puppy zoomies all over the house! Her spots of demodex appeared to get worse - that happens because the mites are having a massive die off - but then got better with each dip. I did three dips the first week, and then once a week after that for a total of 12 weeks. I continued dipping even after she looked 100%, this just to be sure I got all the mites as this is what the directions for the Mitaban say.

I agree - Mitaban can really jack your dog's immune system. You might also consider Pet Tabs or vitamin C to boost the immune system during this time. Echinacea boosted with C is also something to consider. I find these products not at a pet store but in the human health food stores or vitamin shops.

Finally, it would not hurt to alkalize your dog's system by adding baking soda to her filtered tap water. I start off with 1 teaspoon per 3 liters of water and then increase over 3 days to 1 teaspoon to 1 liter of water and give that for 5 days - and then cut down to one half teaspoon of baking soda per liter of water as a maintenance dose during the run of the mange treatment.

Try the correct ration/stronger solution and report back. I would not be surprise if secondary staph infection were present, and Ted has a remedy for that too.

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/27/2014

Hey Joe!

The borax is a miticide, and hydrogen peroxide acts as a penetrant; using water with minerals shouldn't negate this process, however I would use filtered tap water as the chlorine may have an undesired influence to the mix - JMHO!

Replied by Joe
(Wirral)
06/27/2014

Hi and thanks again for the detailed reply! I definitely have the ratios correct: 2:1 water to 3% H202.

I have only been formulating 1.5 litres in total so the 5-10 tablespoons was actually quite a lot and there was definitely plenty of undissolved borax crystals left at the bottom, even of the dog after bathing!

I guess I'll just keep trying, I'll up the borax level and try and keep him in the bath a little longer, although I'm pretty thorough as it is as I'm a professional cleaner!

Secondary infection thankfully hasn't set in yet, it did last time so I know what to look for!

And yes, I've got him on a powdered vit & mineral supplement as well as an omega 3 salmon oil supplement to try and boost immunity, next is trying 'Origin' grain free feed. It's all rather frustrating!

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/27/2014

Hey Joe!

What kind of dog do you have, and how old? I have 25 lb frenchies and I can't seem to get out of making at least a gallon of the dip at a time.

In chronic cases of demodex there is often another disease component at play - does your dog have any other issues?

And Orijen may or may not be your magic ticket - I know when I fed it my dogs lost condition, got poor coats. We currently feed Fromm and switch around the various grain free diets they offer.

Do consider adding the baking soda to the water. Also consider a topical application of essential oil of lavender; dilute with a carrier oil such as olive oil or coconut oil - just a few drops will go a long way; you might also try a few drops in a rinse after a bath. Lavender is calming for the skin and some folks with demodex dogs have good success with it.

Replied by Joe
(Wirral)
06/28/2014

3 year old Bull Terrier, so well known for skin issues, although as stated, I'm certain this is demodex. Yes I should probably make up more solution (which I will from now on) but I have assured I've repeatedly saturated him in the bath with what I had.

He's a rescue dog and the demodex first showed itself 6 months after rehoming. I understand it can indicate deeper issues but it can also take hold if the dog has been stressed, I.e rehomed, vaccinated, neutered and microchipped all in a short period of time, not to mention perhaps being fed an incorrect diet!

It doesn't seem to bother him in the slightest and he's perfectly healthy and happy in every other respect, which is why I was hoping this would work!

I definitely think diet is a considerable contributory factor as despite being built like tanks, they're very sensitive dogs!

I'm also going to switch to the apple cider vinegar as the H202 is bleaching his dark coat so much so people are commenting!

Replied by Joe
(Wirral)
06/28/2014

If I was to use vinegar in place of the H202 to prevent bleaching, would it be used at the same ratios i.e one part vinegar to two parts water or could it be used neat?

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/28/2014

Hey Joe!

I have never used the formula with vinegar instead of hydrogen peroxide, so I cannot comment on efficacy. I would think, after using vinegar myself to rinse a dog after a shampoo to neutralize any soap residue, that if there are any abrasions on the skin that it would sting; I know the remedy using the hydrogen peroxide does not sting my cuts when I am dipping a dog. IMHO a bleached brindle coat is a small price to pay for a cure - again JMHO.

I find it very odd that a 3 year old BT is breaking with demodex; again this is a sign that the immune system has experienced a major stress - however it might be a good idea to run blood panels to see if there is something else going on [and you mentioned your vet is waiting for test results so I assume this is what you are doing- looking deeper].

Do keep us posted!

Replied by Joe
(Wirral)
06/29/2014

I think you're right a bleached coat is a small price to pay, so I'll stick with the H202!

He hasn't had any blood tests as of yet, I know that's what the vets will want to do if I take him back. To be fair, he was never mite free in the first place, as I stopped the mitaban dips after the second skin scraping revealed a reduction in mite count from seven live adult to one dead nymph. Looking back now, I should have continued until we had the two consecutive negative scrapings needed to report a 'cure'.

Since the cessation of the mitaban dips 6 months ago I think the small remainder of mites we missed have slowly proliferated to bring him back to the same stage today.

Again, I strongly believe this is to do with a grain based diet and so want to give him some time on a decent grain free feed before paying for expensive and perhaps unnecessary tests.

I'm going to give him another course of full saturation, twice weekly borax treatments over 3-4 weeks to run the life cycle of the mite and if theres no improvement I'll take him back, although another diagnosis of demodex with no underlying issues will be rather frustrating considering the huge amount of positive results with Ted's treatment posted here!

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/29/2014

Hey Joe!

Demodex occurring in a three year old adult due to a grain based diet is pretty unusual. Sure, under stress such as rehoming - in a young puppy - is fairly coming, but three years old = look for something like hypothyroid - JMHO.

IMHO rather than doing twice the amount of dips of 3-4 weeks, you might consider dipping twice/three times the first week, and then weekly for a total of 12 weeks; this nails down the fully life cycle of the mites. If the feet are particularly affected, ie pododemidecosis - you might have him stand two feet or even one foot at a time in a small, deep pan for half an hour at a shot; this might help to resolve his poor feet a tad sooner.

Also consider alkalizing by adding the baking soda to his water - it can't hurt, and it might be just what is needed to help your boy turn the tide on the mites.

Do keep us posted on your results!


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Calgal (Norwalk, Ca) on 06/21/2014

My 4 yr mix has a bad smell and is itching badly. She itches do bad sometimes she can't sit still.

Not sure if mange and I'm just don't have the budget to see the vet. I called him as we are regular clients and it will cost over a 100 just to run the tests on her.

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/21/2014

Hey Calgal!

My feeling from what you described is NOT mange - more like systemic yeast infection.

Couple things you can do. Bathe your dog - daily for the first week if need be - in Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy.

Also add one eighth to one quarter teaspoon of Borax to one liter of your dog's regular drinking water. If your dog tolerates this well you could consider adding the same amount of Epsom salt along with the Borax; I would do this for 5-7 days, and then reduce to the Borax only in the smallest amount. You can also try baking soda - one teaspoon to one liter of water and this as your dog's only drinking water for 5-7 days, and then you can reduce to one half teaspoon per liter as a maintenance dose.

Lastly, look at what you are feeding your dog - read the ingredient panel on the food bag. If the first 10 ingredients are corn/grain or plant based, then the diet could be a huge factor in your dog's systemic yeast infection. Consider a RAW or homemade diet [google for recipies] or looking for an upgrade to the kibble you are feeding -try searching out diets at dogfoodadvisor.com.

Try this and report back!

Replied by Danielle
(Nj, Usa)
07/31/2014

Hey. I was actually in the same exact position as you are with your pup. I picked up a 3 year old stray shar-pei back in November who had a terrible odor and a grey patch of skin on his chest. When we took him to the vet, they did a skin scrape and determined that the grey skin was probably an allergy problem and was not mange. She gave us a medicated antifungal shampoo and it mostly cleared up in a few weeks. Because sharpei's have a lot of skin folds, they tend to have a lot of skin problems. His Grey itchy skin started to come back around March. It started on his chest and then soon started spreading all over his body. He looked like an elephant with crusty growths all over his chest, face, neck, belly, thighs, armpits, butt, and front and back paws. He lost all his hair in those areas and would scratch at, bite, and lick uncontrollably. In addition, he became significantly less playful and would often refuse to eat his food. I felt really bad because as a college student I can't afford $200-$300 vet visits all the time. I was desperately searching for something that would help, and had tried everything from reusing the antifungal shampoo, to changing to premium (read expensive) grain free, high protein food, feeding him benadryl twice a day to keep the itching at bay, to feeding him coconut oil and rubbing Aloe pulp on the skin. I started to worry when I read many stories online about others who were in similar situations and never found a solution and had to have their pups put down, and was starting to fear I would eventually have to do the same. Finally I found this mange bath and decided to give it a try since it is antifungal and I suspected that Cooper's skin problems were essentially a giant yeast infection that spiraled out of control. Low and behold... It worked! A day after the first bath his skin already began turning pink again on his belly, neck, chest, and butt. His odor is gone. After a week, he is eating regularly again and his skin has improved dramatically. I just gave him a second bath yesterday and he isn't itching at all. I used a bath mitt that was soft on one side and exfoliating on the other to really rub the solution in... No extra oils or anything else needed. I can't even begin to describe the feeling of seeing your dog suffer so much and finally finding a solution that will help him return to life as normal. I wanted to cry when I saw his pink skin and hair returning. I can finally give him a nice rub on his belly or scratch on the back without him flying into a itching frenzy. This solution may have saved my dog's life. In a few weeks he might even be able to return to the dog park who knows. I'm not sure if my dog had mange or just a skin infection, but I know I'm glad I took the chance. Good luck!

P. S. I would strongly advise buying a cone, you don't want them licking that stuff off.

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
07/31/2014

Hey Danielle!

The cone is not needed - it is OK for your dog to lick the solution, however it is most effective when left to air dry.

In addition to the baths, you could also try alkalizing his drinking water by adding one half a teaspoon of baking soda to 1 liter of water and have that be his only drinking water.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Andy (San Diego, Ca) on 06/17/2014

Hello all. The vet diagnosed my 4 month old pup with demodectic mange and prescribed antibitotics and ivermectin. He also recommended a medicated bath done by the vet every 2 weeks, but I was reluctant to do so, so I resulted to this borax/hydrogen peroxide solution that I found.

I followed the instructions precisely, and today, her pinkish skin on her chest area is dark red. Is this normal? I also see that there are a lot of flakey matter on her coat. Please advise.

Thanks, Andy

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/18/2014

Hey Andy!

You don't say how many treatments your puppy has had- was it just one treatment so far? Remember that you need to treat for at least 10-12 weeks, and I usually start out by dipping every other day for three treatments the first week, and then weekly there after for 10 to 12 weeks - so continue treatment for another 3-4 weeks even though everything looks resolved and normal skin.

In my experience the dark red is typical - there is a reason why demodex is commonly referred to as "red mange" - and you are seeing it.

The flakey skin has not been my experience using Ted's mange remedy - and I have used it bunches. There may be other issues going on. What breed of dog is your puppy and what diet are you feeding?

Thanks!

Replied by Tammie
(Nm)
11/02/2017

My question is; Am I supposed to shampoo her between the application of the solution each day?Or am I supposed to keep applying and applying and applying the solution to wear it builds up? I'm confused about if and when do I ever wash the solution off of her?

Thank you Ted


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Jumbieman (Canada) on 06/15/2014

I have been using the hydrogen peroxide borax treatment on my dog for about three months and I cannot see any improvement.

When I first started I did the treatment once a week. There are times that missed. Last week I have stepped up to treating the dog once every two days and the dog appears to be getting worst.

What I am seeing visibly and extracting of the dog especially at the base follicles is what appears to be a waxy texture which actually adheres to the surface of the bathtub. It literally sticks to the tub and I usually have to use a hard spray or use my fingernails to scrape this waxy substance out. When I feel this on the dog, it feels like a scab with many follicles all clumped together. When I pull it out, obviously the skin breaks and there is slight bleeding. The problem here is that the hydrogen peroxide clots the blood and leaves a scar.

The dog has a sort of whitish semi-circle around itâ€TMs eyes and the waxy substance is most prevalent.

I have not taken the dog to the vet as yet but am planning to do so this week.

From what I have written, would this be demodex? Jumbieman

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/15/2014

Hey Jumbieman!

What you describe does NOT sound like demodex at all, particularly as it has not responded to treatment over three months.

The waxy secretions are more in line with Seborrhea. Do yes see your vet for a definitive diagnoses and report back what you find please.

Replied by Jumbieman
(Canada)
06/27/2014

Here's a follow-up to my post.

Took the dog to the vet today. Dog temperature was high normal. On examination was was found to have infected eyes and ears. Lymph nodes were swollen and vet assured that it was not cancer related. Did not want to commit himself to a diagnosis until he cultured some samples.

He took various samples including skin scrapings and some other samples which are being sent to the laboratory. He also took some samples for demodex which he was able to process in his office.

The sample for demodex came back positive.

He prescribed medication for demodex - Ivermectin different dosages every day.

For the other infections Zeniquin, Maxitrol, and Otomax.

He indicated to me that the dog's immune system is completely out of quack and wants to wait for results of the samples he took. Since this is a long holiday weekend, he would not get back the results for another 10 days in which I have a follow-up visit.

In the meantime, I will try to help the dog's immune system by using turmeric, garlic and wild fish liver oil.

I will keep you all apprised.

Thanks for all of your concerns. J

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/27/2014

Thanks for the update J!

Please let us know of test results - very interested to know why the demodex is so resistant in your dog.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Kevin (In) on 05/26/2014
★★★★★

Ted's mange cure is a godsend. I have a english bulldog who started itching badly and had a small patch of hairloss on his back. I took him to the vet, who said it was a food allergy. She was wrong, the condition kept getting worse, even when I changed protiens in my dogs diet. I decided to try ted's mange cure instead of getting the toxic dip from the vet. I did it twice the first week, then once a week after that just to be sure. It worked just like he said it would. His hair started growing back in 3 weeks, you have to be patient and get those pores unclogged before this will happen. The peroxide opens the pores and cleans them out. I also ordered some diatomacious earth from amazon to put on his hair and all over the carpet and floors in my house. I vacum it up every couple days. You need to get the food grade of diatomacious earth. It is non toxic to dogs and humans. This stuff does wonders for killing mites, fleas, ticks and anything else with a exoskeleton. My conclusion, be patient and follow the directions for teds mange cure, and it just might help your pet and save you alot of money in return. It is alot safer then that expensive toxic dip your vet will give you. Hope this helps.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Jermaine (Ventura, Ca) on 05/23/2014
★★★★★

The Borax and Peroxide treatment works like a charm! I have an Akita who just recently turned 1. We went to the vet because Romeo had hair missing from his armpits and belly. We thought it was an allergy. The vet checked for mites but found nothing. The hair loss continue to progress all over his body and we had Romeo checked for S.A. It got to the point where the poor dog was miserable so I started doing research on-line to find a solution. Someone had gone through the same steps I had and insisted it was mites and recommended the Borax and Peroxide treatment. I mix 32oz of Peroxide 3% with 64oz of warm water. I then add 1 cup of Borax (the brand I use is 20 Mule Team). I put that into a spray bottle and apply after a bath with anti bacterial soap. I do this every 5-6 days. In 1 month his hair started to grow back. We are now at 3 months and you can barely tell that he ever lost any hair. This works!


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Yolanda (Quito, Ecuador) on 05/22/2014

I did the Ted's Mange Remedy for the first time today on my dog, Toffee, which had on her hairless open sores on lower back oozing and red. After applying the remedy, all instructions followed, the sores seems to be stinging much and she was like wanting relief and whining. Most posts say remedy is harmless and painless. But she seemed to be hurting much. Will it happen again when I repeat treatment? Please let me know what to expect next. Thank you.

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
05/22/2014

Hey Yolanda!

I've used Ted's Mange Remedy countless times and it has never pained my animals. That said, my animals never had open, weeping lesions on their body during treatment. The hydrogen peroxide can sting a bit on open wounds, however in this case it would seem beneficial for your dog despite the stinging.

I have to ask - are you sure your dog has mange? Have you gone to the vet for a scraping to confirm mites? Many times hairless, open sores on the lower back are related to a flea infestation. It would be wise for you to explore this possibility and do what you can to eliminate fleas in the areas where your dog stays. Borax sprinkled on the ground will help eliminate fleas, and some find adding a small amount of Borax in the dogs drinking water also helps eliminate fleas [dosage 1/16 of a teaspoon into 1 liter of water].

Replied by Lizzy
(Asheville, Nc)
05/22/2014

Hi Yolanda, I agree with Theresa that you should get this diagnosed by a vet. It could also be pyoderma, something I am struggling with on one of my dogs. Perhaps you can look up both conditions on Google images and see if you can match it.

Replied by Om
(Hope, Bc. Canada)
05/22/2014

Yolanda from Quit, Ecuador --- maybe you want to spray those sores with aloe vera or even with chamomile tea. I use UT with great results but not everyone does this. Then, you can mix turmeric with VCO and be not so sparingly with the yellow stuff. Later, you can clean the skin again with Aloe Vera. See how it works. If it is flea related, use orange essential oil as in household products. It works for me.

Namaste, Om

EC: Hi Om, by UT, do you mean Urine Therapy?

Replied by Julie
(Pa, US)
05/29/2014

Some dogs that have mange get a skin infection due to the mange which is the open sores . You need an antibiotic for that along with ted's treatment . I took my dog to the vet for mange and the medicine they gave him was a oral liquid and it almost killed him. The medicine caused him to become blind . the vet said it wasn't the medicine making him not able to see. Well, we stopped the medicine and he got his sight back. So we decided to stick to a safer way of curing the mange, borax, water and vinegar. Thankful for the internet.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 04/01/2014

Hi,

We just figured out that we have a goat with mange. It is near his eyes. We are using Ted's remedy with borax and peroxide, but I am concerned about getting it in his eyes. It this bad to get in the eyes? Would there be a safer alternative?

I am planning to use garlic internally and also put borax in the water.

I have read that I can use tea tree essential oil (1 T. per cup of water) on mange, but that doesn't sound good around the eye either.

Thanks!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
04/02/2014

Hey MtM!

I've made up gallon upon gallon of Ted's Mange remedy and splashed it all over my face - into my eyes - with no adverse effects; in fact, I don't feel anything from it, no stinging at all. It might be different if you were to soak your eyeball in the solution for 10 minutes, but getting it splashed into the eye was not a problem for me.

A remedy that has a bit more 'body' to it would be sulpher powder with a carrier oil. Not sure if it would annoy the goat and cause it to rub its face and possibly smear the sulpher into its eye, however.

Replied by Mama To Many
(Tennessee, Usa)
04/02/2014

Dear Theresa,

Thanks so much for your response and information. That is very helpful! I will let you all know how it turns out for Cinnamon. :)

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Mama To Many
(Tennessee)
05/14/2014

Hi!

Our goat, Cinnamon, appears to be cured! We used Ted's mange remedy several times over a couple of weeks. (But we didn't bathe her in it, she is too big. We washed her with it.) We also gave her garlic internally a couple of times a week. We also used tea tree essential oil. (1 Tablespoon tea tree per cup of water.) My son found the tea tree/ water spray to be the easiest. He did this a number of times over the last month or 6 weeks.

So, I am not sure just what worked or if all three were needed. But the mange is gone and the fur is growing back. Cinnamon is happy and so are we!

~Mama to Many~


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Thunderpaw (St Joseph, Mi) on 12/02/2013

My 8 year old golden has a serious case of demodicosis (adult onset) that we have been treating for about a month with no success. Has the remedy of borax and hydrogen peroxide solution been tried on demodecosis? Any success? If yes, do you follow the say treatment pattern?

borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solutionborax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution

borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
12/03/2013

Hey Thunderpaw!

Can you clarify please, if you have treated for 1 month with the borax/peroxide solution and no results?, OR if you have treated in another fashion with no results?

Next, I am confused by the formula you listed. I have treated juvenile generalized demodicosis with Ted's remedy with 100% success - this is the formula I used:

1 16 oz brown bottle of 3% solution hydrogen peroxide from grocery store.

I dumped that into a jug and then added 2 bottles of filtered tap water using the now empty brown bottle from the hydrogen peroxide, giving me 48 oz of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution.

Now, into the jug full of 1% solution I add 1 full cup of borax [from the laundry aisle at the grocery store]. Shake it up - there should be so MUCH borax in the solution that some grains remain and do not dissolve.

I then fill my bath tub with very warm water and set the jug in the tub; by the time the tub cools down enough to comfortably bathe the dog, the contents of the jug are nicely warmed also. Now bathe the dog with the shampoo of your choice and then rinse all the shampoo out. I drain the tub and when all the shampoo and water have drained, I plug it up again so it will again hold water. Then I shake up the solution in the jug and pour it all over the dog. I then use a plastic cup to scoop up the solution in the bottom of the tub and then pour that over the dog. Do this again and again, re-wetting the dog with the grainy solution, for at least 10 minutes. Next part: do NOT rinse the solution off the dog. Take your sopping wet dog and put him in a crate with no bedding; you want as much solution to remain wet on the dog while he sits in the crate - give it another half an hour in the crate to allow the solution to 'work'. After half an hour I let my dog out and towel dry, and then let him shake the grains of borax out of his coat. It helps to turn the heat up in the house so the dog isn't freezing while sitting wet in the crate. I have doubled the batch of solution simply because its so inexpensive and it makes it easier to saturate a big dog.

You should dip your dog in this solution every other day - 2 to 3 times the first week; after the first week do once per week for 8 weeks. If you have a black dog the coat will bleach to a reddish hue due to the bleaching nature of the peroxide.

The dip should work be it juvenile demodex or adult onset; the mite is the same mite. However with adult onset demodex an underlying disease condition affecting the immune system is at play; removing the mites will bring your pet relief, but the illness that depressed the immune system to allow the mites to over grow still remains and will need to be diagnosed and addressed.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Matross (Coobowie Australia) on 11/05/2013
★★★★★

Today is the 2nd wash my pet dog (muttley an American Pit Bull) has had in 3 days. Hydrogen Peroxide has been too expensive to buy in any event I have not been able in isolated rural to purchase larger amounts, and as Hydrogen Perixide or vinegar is the vessle for getting Borax through my dogs skin I have purchased 2 litre bottles of vinegar and if I may make comment for what it is worth from personal observation, the Borax/Vinegar remedy from the outset has been very effective against Demodex mange, Muttley has stopped scratching a complete turnaround , I intend to continue the treatment METHOD: In a metal bowl I empty 1 to 2 litres of vinegar and heat on the stove (this raises the solubility of borax in solution= more potent)and add and stir 250 -300 grams of Borax. After showering Muttley thoroughly with shampoo and scubbed with a soft brush and rinsed, the Borax /vinegar solution is applied thoroughly, and left to dry naturally (No Towels) Note : the small bottle of 3% 100 ml Hydrogen Peroxide is kept in my medical tool kit is used if ever Muttley were to eat poison. Hydrogen Peroxide is used to induce vommitting (apply 1ml to 1 kilo body weight DYOR) Cudos to Ted from Malaysia for sharing his research and remedy

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
11/05/2013

Hey Matross!

Whoo hoo for APBT Muttley!

Now that you have seen a drastic improvement, you may wish to cut back bathing to bathing 1x week for 8 weeks. The mite lifecycle is about 21 days, and so you want to treat once per week for at least 3 weeks, and then a few more weeks after your dog seemed cured to ensure the mites have been eliminated. Remember - Ted indicates that the borax solution be a saturated solution, so keep heating and stirring until the grains fail to dissolve to create the proper strength solution.

I like using the hydrogen peroxide to induce vomitting too; these bulldawgs are just so naughty they seem to get into *everything*! Do consider keeping activated charcoal [available at drug stores, or aquarium stores] on hand in cases of poisoning where vomitting is not indicated.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Summer (Freeport, Tx) on 10/21/2013

I'm sorry, but I'm not a whiz when it comes to measurements and I'm still confused as to how much to mix the peroxide and borax to make a solution. Please give me in "lamen" terms how to mix the solution. Secondly, how is it applied when it's on my puppy's face and last, did I read correct that after you apply you do not rinse the dog? Oh and also, how long do I need to do this for? Many thanks!

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
10/22/2013

Hey Summer!

Here is Ted's Mange remedy in layman's terms and I used it on my own puppy to completely resolve her demodex:

1 brown bottle of hydrogen peroxide from the grocery store [its a 16 oz bottle of a 3% solution]

1 box Borax from the laundry aisle [unscented]

I dumped the hydrogen peroxide in a big jug and added 32 ounces [or two of the brown bottle filled up twice] of filtered tap water. This gives you 48 ounces of a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution that is needed for the next step.

Next add 1 cup of borax crystals to the jug and shake. There should be undisolved grains of borax in the mix - this is what you want to see. Now you have a jug of cold solution -I filled my tub with hot water and rested the jug in the tub; when the solution inside the jug was nice and warm, the tub was cool enough to bathe my dog, so I bathed her in doggy shampoo and then rinsed well, and pulled the plug on the tub. When the tub was empty I plugged it up again and poured the grainy solution over my dog. I then used a plastic cup to scoop up the solution and kept pouring the solution over her again and again and again. You can use a wash cloth to sop up the solution to apply to your dogs face. I have had it splashed about and got it in my own eyes - it didn't feel like anything, so its safe if you should splash it in yours or your puppy's eyes. After about 10 minutes of pouring the solution over her I let her drip off in the tub and then DO NOT RINSE. I picked her up bare handed and then I crated her in an empty crate without bedding and let her sit for another half an hour to let the solution 'work', and then after that I let her out to romp around and work herself dry. So you do NOT rinse, you leave the solution on to drip dry until the next dip.

The first bath may result in a massive mite die-off so it may *appear* that the condition temporarily worsens, and so on my puppy one area did seem to appear a bit angry the next day. But other than that initial die off all I saw was improvment week by week as the dark angry patches turned to pale pink and then faded away to normal skin.

I treated once per week for 10 weeks - this past the time that I saw what appeared to be a complete resolution to her condition. I did the extra treatments only because the standard veterinary protocol suggested continued treatment after the condition appeared to resolve using Ivermectin and Amitraz.

I have never seen such an effective home remedy. Two thumbs UP to Ted from Bangkok!

NOTE: I understood from the notes that its best to make the 1% solution first rather than dumping the borax and 3% hydrogen peroxide in together and then adding 32 ounces of water to make the needed dilution as this approach will somehow result in a weaker solution. Its in the feedback, but I can't tell you *where*! "


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Tammy (Dallas,tx) on 10/20/2013
★★★★★

Re: Ted's Dog Mange Cure... I was skeptical but have an old German shepherd with demodectic mange. Could not afford treatments. I used this twice ten days apart and noticing huge difference. Dog was almost completely bald but now growing hair back.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 10/10/2013
★★★★★

Add another YEA! For Ted's Mange Cure!

I found this site searching for an alternative solution to Amitraz/Mitaban and Ivermectin for Demodetic mange/ canine demodicosis.

I am no stranger to demodex but it had been awhile since I had had to deal with it; while the thinking has changed about it - now its not considered an inherited condition so much but rather mainly a nutritional and stress related condition - the 'cures' remained the same: highly toxic. My puppy had the deep, dark angry red patches on her skin [hence 'red' mange], and the hair in those areas was thinning out and the areas started to look scabby. In a litter of 8, all had been seen by various veterinarians and skin scraped to confirm demodex; my puppy was not scraped but I have seen it before and with 7 pups confirmed I did not feel like I needed my puppy scraped [creating open sores] to confirm what I already knew. When I compared my puppy to the vet scraped puppies who were all being treated with Ivermectin mine was the worst of the lot.

I tried Ted from Bangkok's Mange cure and can't say recommend it enough!

Faithful dipping - once per week for 8-10 weeks - has resulted in a complete resolution of my puppy's demodex.

I first read through all the pages for mange and mange cures and feedback and jotted down the formula and then translated from liters to ounces to arrive at this formula:

1 brown bottle of hydrogen peroxide from the grocery store [its a 16 oz bottle of a 3% solution]

1 box Borax from the laundry aisle [unscented]

I dumped the hydrogen peroxide in a big jug and added 32 ounces [or two of the brown bottle filled up twice] of filtered tap water. This gives you 48 ounces of a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution that is needed for the next step.

Next add 1 cup of borax crystals to the jug and shake. There should be undisolved grains of borax in the mix - this is what you want to see. Now you have a jug of cold solution -I filled my tub with hot water and rested the jug in the tub; when the solution inside the jug was nice and warm, the tub was cool enough to bathe my dog, so I bathed her in doggy shampoo and then rinsed well, and pulled the plug on the tub. When the tub was empty I plugged it up again and poured the grainy solution over my dog. I then used a plastic cup to scoop up the solution and kept pouring the solution over her again and again and again. After about 10 minutes I crated her in an empty crate without bedding and let her sit for another half an hour, and then after that I let her out to romp around and work herself dry.

The first dip resulted in a frisky puppy! Where had that energy gone? It gave me a clue that she had not felt very well even though I thought she had normal energy. And her skin; it was a deep pink before the dip and now it was paler and noticeably calmer. And all it took was dipping her in what basically amounted to skinny dipping in the salty ocean!

I continued treatments on a weekly basis. I understood that a massive mite die-off might result in the condition to temporarily worsen, and so one area did seem to appear a bit angry the next day. But other than that initial die off all I saw was improvment week by week as the dark angry patches turned to pale pink and then faded away to normal skin. In contrast the puppies being treated with Ivermectin got worse before they got better - again, likely as a result of the mites dying off - but it seemed like it took longer for those pups to bounce back; and no wonder, as the Ivermectin supresses the immune system needed to combat the mites.

I treated once per week for 10 weeks - this past the time that I saw what appeared to be a complete resolution to her condition. I did the extra treatments only because the standard veterinary protocol suggested continued treatment after the condition appeared to resolve using Ivermectin and Amitraz.

I have never seen such an effective home remedy. Two thumbs UP to Ted from Bangkok!

NOTE: I understood from the notes that its best to make the 1% solution first rather than dumping the borax and 3% hydrogen peroxide in together and then adding 32 ounces of water to make the needed dilution as this approach will somehow result in a weaker solution. Its in the feedback, but I can't tell you *where*!


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Bigmoom (Brentwood) on 10/05/2013
★★★★★

I have a 6 month old Boerboel puppy, and when I first got him off of the plane from South Africa, via Texas, his black coat was very shiny, healthy and beautiful. After about three weeks I started to notice red bumps on the skin of his stomach and hair loss around his neck, head, stomach, and ears. I took him to the vet and they gave him a shot that made the red bumps on his stomach go away, but he still had hair loss and red bumps on the aforementioned areas of his body.

I started researching what his problem may be online and found that he may have Demodex. I was pissed that I had just paid $2500. 00 for a breeding male that I possibly could not breed later. I then went back to the vet and after a skin scraping it was found that my pup did indeed have Demodex. The vet wanted to charge me $170.00 per chemical dip to rid him of the mites, and told me it may take three dips as well as that the dips may not work.

Thank God I found Ted's remedy on Earth Clinic. I used the solution for Four Weeks and it cleared up everything. I believe the most important part of the remedy is leaving the Borax solution on the pup/dog after you're done washing them off. My puppy's coat is beautiful and full once again he is 102 pounds at 6 months old and a real head turner when I take him out.

I just want to thank Ted and Earth Clinic for saving me money, time and sanity. I would've been still spinning my wheels if it not for this information.

Replied by Hunni3361
(Washington, Dc)
07/13/2014

Phyllis from Washington, DC. I have a 4 yr. old pitbull, with demodectic mange. I was wondering, giving him this treatment outside. I have a huge tub and also a large cage for him to dry in. The weather here is 80 to 97 degrees. Will this make a difference of starting the treatment??

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
07/13/2014

Hey Phyllis!

I see no problem with bathing your pit bull outside when the weather is so warm - go for it!

One thing to mention, however, is that demodex seen in a 4 year old adult can indicate an undiagnosed problem such as hypothyroid or other such underlying issue.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Stefani (Madison Ms United States) on 08/09/2013
★★★★★

I never post anything on the Internet. I mostly just read. BUT. I rescued an 8 week old Pit/Mastiff from an abandoned home. When I first got him I noticed some red bumps and hair loss on his head. He was extremely malnourished and covered in fleas. I thought it was from the fleas and such a poor immune system. I took him to my vet of 22 years. She did a skin scraping and diagnosed him with demodex mange. Not knowing any better , I followed her advice and let her dip him in Mitiban. She also vaccinated him on the same day. I took him home and at 10:00 that night he was burning up with fever and lethargic. I called her and met her at the clinic where I was told his temp was 105 and he needed BENADRYL and antibiotics. She took him to the back and an hour later we were on our way home. The next morning his mange was now generalized, covering his entire body!! I noticed on the receipt she had given him a steroid shot the night before!!! Really ??!!! That shot literally FED the mites!! I called and was told to continue the antibiotics and come back in a week, and that the mange had spread because of his poor immune system. I went back the following and they repeated the dip (weakening) it this time. 12:00 that night same thing happened. We went back and were given a different type of antibiotics. I was hesitant to continue them because his immune system was already shot and the antibiotics were only weakening it. I started researching and found out that Mitaban should only be given to puppy's 4 months and older. Next trip to the vet I had already changed his diet to Wellness Core, a powdered multi vitamin, B-12, Omega3 , echinacea, cold pressed coconut oil and AC vinegar!!! Very costly and very time consuming to mix. He was feeling better but still covered in mange. She then suggested and sent me home with Ivermectin to be given daily AND more antibiotics. I have the ivermec and did not give antibiotics. Still NO results. I then tried coconut oil mixed with Neem oil that I applied after daily bathes. This seemed to make redness calm down and hair grow but he was still covered in red bumps and obviously still had mange. My vet at this point suggested putting him to sleep!!!!! What?!!!! Seriously??!!! She had been treating him for 11 weeks already and that was her advice!!!

I came across Teds cure and since I had exhausted all other measures I thought, ok , why not ?!! I bathed him in anti-fungal shampoo , really scrubbing his skin (sounds harsh but he was a trooper) I then poured Hydrogen peroxide over his body and it immediately started foaming. I mixed 3c Hot water 2c peroxide and as much Borax as would dissolve I poured this all over him , then massaged it into his skin and let him air dry The next morning I finally had a new puppy!!!!! He felt great, bumps had gone down 75% , and already had hair growing back!! He was a little dry so I applied the cold pressed coconut oil all over him. Goin to do another treatment tomorrow. I will continue his diet and vitamins to help boost his immune system. He will always get 2 tablespoons of the coconut oil(which he LOVES) I cannot say thank you enough for what you have done for my baby and for me!! This has been such a blessing, I wish I had read it earlier!!! Mitaban Ivermectin antibiotics steroids... They are all poisons that almost killed my puppy. Thank you so much for your help. One more thing, this treatment also works GREAT for fleas!!! Thank you again and God Bless!

Replied by Lexi
(Philippines)
06/27/2014

Hi. We don't have borax in our country. what else could I use? thanks

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
06/27/2014

Hey Lexi!

EC has a page for locating borax - there may be some sources or alternatives for you here:

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax15.html#PHILIPPINES

Replied by Vanessa Katherine
(Los Angeles, Ca)
07/06/2014

Hi. I have a 2 month old chihuahua puppy with demodex. He is approx 2lbs (at most), and it's mostly on his head.

Is this recipe ok for such a little guy?

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
07/07/2014

Hey Vanessa!

Ted's Mange Remedy is perfectly safe for your dog and if you accidentally splash some in his eyes it doesn't sting. Even though the demodex appears to only be on his head at this time, you should dip the entire dog - and repeat for at least 8 dips - once per week [I recommend 12 dips], even if it seems to clear up right away.

Replied by Brenda
(Kittanning, Pa. Usa)
10/01/2014

The Vets do not know what is wrong with my 5 pounds 13 year old Yorkie. I have come to believe that it is some kind of mange me even though skin scrapings showed nothing. She has an enlarged heart probably due to the prednisone and antibiotics she was living in for months! I tried baking soda and vinegar, even diluted, and she scratches like crazy. Same with baking soda and peroxide. I tried the borax and peroxide, diluted, (Ted's) and she seemed much better, however, I was afraid to continue because before trying this she had a problem with drinking too much water and spitting it back up only out of her throat, I figure, because even after eating no food came up out of her stomach. After using the borax and peroxide treatment, when she spit up the water, now there was also blood. I am really big on natural treatments, so I immediately feed her Cayenne and coconut oil. After 3 or 4 times she was fine. I want to know, has anyone else had experience of dog spitting blood after using borax and peroxide treatment? Wondering if it is due to her licking it off of her. Can it cause that type of irritation? Does mixing the borax with the peroxide cause it to become boric acid?

Replied by Theresa
(Mpls., Mn)
10/02/2014

Hey Brenda!

Sorry to hear about your senior Yorkie's troubles.

For the itchy skin, you might consider using Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy:

Mix 1 tbsp of MOM with 1 tbsp epsom salt and 1 tbsp borax into 1 cup of water and 1/2 cups of 3% hydrogen peroxide - this is the brown bottle of hydrogen peroxide sold at the grocery store. Double or triple the amounts if you need a bigger batch to thoroughly saturate your dog. You follow the directions for dipping her same as the mange remedy.

I have heard of 2 other situations where dogs have vomited after Ted's mange dip; my only thoughts were that one case might have had a super nervous dog and the other might have been a Herx reaction. Your situation sounds different; your dog was already vomiting before the dip, and since the dip you now see blood. Drinking too much water and spitting it back out from her throat makes me think conditions such as megasophagus; you would have had a history of vomiting if this were the case. I also am thinking there could be a collapsed trachea involved, but you would hear coughing if this were the case. Reaching at straws here, but the over drinking could be a sign of pain; blood in the vomit might indicate ulcers in the GI tract or another stomach disorder.

Aside from the itchy skin, and the over drinking/vomiting - is she OK and normal otherwise? Is she happy or is she not her normal self?

And no, borax does not become boric acid when mixed with hydrogen peroxide :-)

Replied by Om
(Hope, Bc, Canada)
10/02/2014

Hello Brenda --- I very much agree with Theresa.

I would add that at this moment you need to give SLIPPERY ELM powder to your pet. I gave it recently to a cat with good results. Find it online plus info on this very effective herb. It heals damage to the stomach and digestive tract and is a blessing for all who have leaky guts. Give it with honey made with warm water, using a whisk (1 tsp) for a few days mixed into a bit of the food. About twice a day. You can get it also a a health food store. Good health to both of you.

Namaste, Om



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