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Ted's Dog Mange Cure (Most Popular)
DO NOT CONFUSE BORAX WITH BORIC ACID!
DO NOT USE BORIC ACID IN PLACE OF BORAX!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes, "The best cure for dog mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me."
More Exact Measurements (excerpted from various emails on our Reader Question & Answer Section)
Ted replies, "A definitive recipe is add 1-2 tablespoon of borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. To make a 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1%, roughly get one part of 3% H2O2 plus two parts of water. Then apply them on the dog. Wash with this solution daily, no rinsing. If it doesn't go away, I have found mites, or mange to have a large "beehive" hidden somewhere. In which case, quarantine the dog in a small area that is 100% sterile."
"Approximate measurements are 1 bottle of 500 of 3% H2O2, plus 1000 of the cc of water, plus heaping 3 tablespoons of borax. Stir until most of borax is dissolved. The borax is past the point of saturation here so you will see some borax around. Technically the concentration is around 1.5% H2O2, and this is a bit stronger because by the time we finish with it, the H2O2 gets reacted with other things, and by the time we used it is is usually ends up near a 1% solution anyway."
"You need to get put as much borax until it no longer dissolves in a pail of water and forms a precipitate. This is a saturated solution of borax. Add H2O2 to about 1% concentration to a pail of water. Soak the entire dog, several times. Keep the dog wet for some time. The borax will destroy the eggs from laying under the skin which causes the mange. Get some solution and spray or use this to wipe all floors so the dog will not get re infected. Repeat this every week when bathing. This is not a perfect cure, but it my dog now no longer have mange. My dog was completely cured. You can try other chemicals such as sodium perborate, which is more convenient since you don't need to add the hydrogen peroxide."
"The solution (borax or preferably sodium perborate) is to be applied AFTER the shampooing and rinsing. The sodium perborate should remain on the dog after the bath. You will not rinse this at all. It must remain on the dog throughout the day so that it will act continuously on the bugs."
"However, I do recommend a less toxic form of borax, which is sodium perborate if you can find one. The secret is that borax (plus hydrogen peroxide) will work better then most other remedies I have tried, this includes mineral oil, neem oil (no, neem oil does not kill the mange as effectively as sodium perborate) I have tried it. In my "mange colonies" and commercial brands to kill insects don't work. Hydrogen peroxide DOES NOT KILL mange, I USED IT SIMPLY USED IT AS A CATALYST for ordinary borax in case you cannot obtain sodium perborate. Mineral oils simply prevent oxygen from reaching mange, but that didn't stop it. I have tried naphta, bentonite clays, DMSO, potassium permanganate, light fluid, etc. They all worked temporarily, and it just came back. I must make a strong statement that the formula (borax+h2o2 or sodium perborate) works bests and it is broad spectrum. You can use it to control mange, mites, fleas, and lyme disease (initiated by those crawly insects). I have actually compared side to side with neem oil, mineral oil, apple cider vinegar and others here in Bangkok and this is the most wide spectrum cure I have found. Borax prevents denaturation of DNA/RNA in dogs and I currently use this as life extension for dogs. For example a ribose sugar, deoxyribose sugar, and various sugar that causes accelerated aging in dogs can be slowed down with supplementation of dogs indirectly when you do the borax wash. "
"Prepare peroxide 1% solution, add 2-3 tablespoon of borax to that cup. Stir and wait for a couple of minutes for the borax to dissolve. The formula doesn't require an exact science. The importance is to add enough borax until the solution is no longer soluble and well past saturation."
"...The reason why it is not working is YOU CANNOT RINSE THE DOG OF borax and peroxide solution with any shampoo or water. After bathing the dog, keep the dog that way, no drying no rinsing. This is why the dog has not improved. Also BORAX is added DIRECTLY to the 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and no water is added separately, otherwise the solution is too weak."
7/12/2006: "I have reviewed all the dog's mange treatments both by my own tests and by many contributors. It appears that many people have trouble obtaining materials, such as sodium perborate hydrate, so I revised the remedy to hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution applied only once or so every week. The solution of sodium perborate hydrate is very much similar when borax and hydrogen peroxide is added. Some have either substituted hydrogen peroxide with benzoyl peroxide.
The problem about benzoyl peroxide is the upper limit by which you can use it without effect the dog as it is somewhat more toxic if given beyond a 10% concentration. 5% is usually a safe concentration. Benzoyl peroxide because of its toxicity is somewhat of an insecticide, while hydrogen peroxide is not, what it is in the original formulation is that it is a penetrant allowing the borax to go through the skin. Now some did not like hydrogen peroxide due to its limited supplies, so they make use of apple cider vinegar. For me a regular vinegar will do. Both a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide has two similarities. It is both a penetrant and when added with a safe insecticidal material such as borax, which has an toxicity on LD 50 equivalent to that of salt, this is the preferred method. However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax.
Boric acid is not recommended for use as it is much more toxic than borax. Borax's toxicity is about 3000 mg/kg, which is the equivalent toxicity to about that of salt. (check wikipedia). The idea is to make a solution of borax so that the solution can cover the entire body and penetrate through the skin of the dog to kill the demodex mites, for example. To use a spot treatment by pure powder will take an infinitely long time as it does not get to it through the dog's skin.
In some cases, people have tried neem oil, mineral oil. Both of these have similar effectiveness, but in different ways. Neem oil prevents the Demodex fleas from laying eggs by modifying their hormones, while mineral oils are moderately toxic only to the demodex eggs, not necessarily killing them. However, both are very limited based on my tests in really killing the insect. You see borax will both kill the eggs, modifying the hormones and their eggs by drying them all at once. The weakness of borax is limited solubility and limited penetration of the skin which you need either vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (toxic), MSM or DMSO solution. Ideally 10% DMSO should be preferred.
Pine Sol has limited insecticidal effectiveness, being a contact insecticidal, and does not provide lasting killing power once it has evaporated and does not kill living fleas, but it does kill their eggs somewhat. Only a fairly concentrated solution works and it does not prevent re-laying of stray eggs by the dog. In other words, the use of neem oil, mineral oil, benzoyl peroxide, and vaseline will not prevent the recurring of mange since eggs are not just on the dog, but can be anywhere in the house. Therefore re-infection is at issue. The one magic that borax has over its neighbors is that the borax powder that the dogs leaves in the house will kill the eggs even after the dogs no longer has mange and re-infection is therefore next to impossible. However, borax has limited effect on killing the larger mites and fleas, but not mange.
I found that adding 1/8 teaspoon per liter of water of borax added to the dog's water will cause the larger fleas to dry up and die at the same time. My dog for some reason likes to eat something like more than 1 gram of the sodium perborate crystals whenever he feels sick and the fleas just die off. The borax modifies the dog's blood and kills the mange inside out. This is why borax, i.e., sodium perborate, is required for mange, but not anything else due to preventive re-infection of the mange by the powder of the borax that destroys the eggs where the dog sleeps and where it walks around throughout the house.
VASELINE: The problem about using vaseline as an insecticide is that it has limited killing of eggs, but its weakness is that it is not a penetrant, and therefore the frequency of applications will take at least once every other day. Additionally, the hair of the dog will prevent proper application.
Some have went so far as to not use a solution of borax with hydrogen peroxide as a rinse then followed likely, perhaps a borax powder after bath. On the argument of being effective only as a spot treatment. Since dogs do not have sweat glands, not using a rinse will prevent the borax from absorbing into the skin to kill the mange under its skin. So this is not going to work. You need both borax as an insecticide, the water as the solution which to spread it to the skin surface, and a reliable penetrant to get it through the skin, such as vinegar, msm, DMSO, or even hydrogen peroxide. A benzoyl peroxide is both a penetrant and insecticide, but at higher concentration is somewhat toxic for dogs and as a result you are pretty much limited by the maximum concentration not to exceed beyond 5% being a preferred safety. I would prefer to limit myself at 3%.
I therefore suggest, not to get you lost in the woods, is that whatever formulation you use, always stick with borax and borax derivatives, such as sodium perborate monohydrate being the main insecticidal chemicals for the dog.
Pyrethrum is o.k. but in very low concentration of about 0.1% - 0.2% to prevent skin irritation for the dogs near the skin infection areas. The second mix you need is always the penetrant and the third formulation is appropriate dilutions in water. To provide lasting killing effect, non of these chemicals should generally be non-volatile insecticidal mixtures, which unfortunately most recommended are, with exception of perhaps borax and bentonite. Bentonite causes eggs to dry, so they can be used also, but they have no insecticidal mixture as borax and borax can performs both killing the insect, modifying the hormones to prevent egg laying, becomes a stomach poison for the insect, and at the same time causes their eggs to dry up.
I therefore will remain very flexible about what penetrants you use including hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (limited concentration), and vinegar. It must be noted that when formulating any mange it must be noted that they must be non-volatile and the chemicals should cause microscopic residues around the house so that re infection of mange is prevented, including mites and fleas.
I think this wraps up the basic theory and application of mange treatment, and hopefully other people will make a more effective formulations in the future at least equal or better than the original formula I have proposed. Just want to tell you that there are many ways you can treat mange, but the issue is one of toxicity, re infection, toxic levels, which portion kills it and how, and which is the penetrant which is the key to it all. Penetrant is important, the chemical must reach the target demodex under the skin. Usually hydrogen peroxide, vinegar, DMSO, and MSM will do that. It must be reminded again that borax, to work most effectively, is to prepare a solution without washing it off, followed by a small amount of borax powder to be applied if you wish. Any other application other than this such as using as purely powder form is NOT going to work.
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 03/20/2010: Anne from Paranaqu, Luzon: "Hello. I have been treating my dog with this borax peroxide solution for three weeks. i have seen a huge improvement. She does not wake up to scartch and she sleeps soundly already. The thing I want to know is, due to the mange, she developed the black skin.. black spots on her body and its getting lighter.. good thing. :-) My dog sleeps on my bed and she keeps on shedding black dandruff like particles. Is that the black skin peeling off her body? everytime she shakes her body, you can actually see the black particles come off. eveytime she walks or move.. the dandruff falls off. Is that the black skin getting better and going back to regular skin? has anyone experienced this? Hope to hear from anyone... thank you"Replies
05/02/2010: Amanda from College Station, Texas replies: "I have been using the Borax solution for about a week now, and it seems that black spots are appearing on my white pitbull also, and it seems that everytime I use the solution then my puppy's black spots gets a little lighter. Has your dog got any better, have the spots gone away?? Someone please respond.
03/14/2010: Lydia from Senatobia, Ms.: "Ted,
Sodium Tetraborate Decahydrate: Is this the borax you are talking about? My dog has hairless raw spots that have turned her skin black. Two months of antibiotics and no results. Vet says it is staph and or fungus. She stinks, but I love her so it don't really matter to me. Please help me. Lydia"
EC: Please see the borax page for more information: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/borax.html
11/27/2010: John from Qc, Quezon City ,philippines replies: "How can 6% hydrogen peroxide to 1%? how long is the shelf life of the mixture? thanks."
09/10/2011: Hoodah Thunkit from Chula Vista, Ca, Usa replies: "pour 6% container into a much larger containter - refill 6% container 5 times with water - pour each one into that much larger container - Presto! - 1 % solution in that larger container."
03/06/2010: Natasha from Honolulu, Hawaii, Us: "Aloha,
Is there a safe oil to use during this treatment. My dog's skin has become dry and irritated and I'd love to put some emu oil or coconut oil on her neck to soothe the dry itch. I read somewhere in these 9 pages that vit. e oil stimulates the mange, so I wanted to know which oils won't. I've seen this question posted several times but none (that I can find) have been answered.
Thanks in advance!"
04/14/2010: Mitzipars from Port Richey, Fl replies: "Try using the Lavender Oil on spots or red spots where the mites start releasing off of her AFTER doing the borax, water and H202 bath.
It soothes the areas they are showing signs of being bitten or is itching badly.
I put in on cotton balls and lightly swab the area. You'll see her smile again. :)"
[YEA] 03/04/2010: Ann from Paranaqye, Luzon, Philippines: "Hello. I tried this treatment for my shitzu dog who has been suffering from mange and yeast infection the past four years. I tried all sorts of treatment and weekly visits to the vet made my wallet develop allergies to see my pet's vet. LOL! Anyway, I was able to purchase borax last saturday and made the solution as soon as I got home. I got hydrogen peroxide 3% and mixed it with 3 cups (i used the liquid measuring cup for cooking) of water and added 3 to 4 tablespoons borax. I bathe her using her baby shampoo.. I read somewhere that its better to use baby shampoo for dogs with mange... rinsed her off and then added the solution. Let her sit for awhile with the solution until she was dry. It took less than 30 minutes since she is bald in some areas already so its quick for her to dry after every bath. IT WORKED. She stopped licking and scratching. I wanted to call ted and ask him to marry me for this miracle. I love my pet so much and seeing her this relieved makes me so happy. Her first treatment was on a saturday, gave her second treatment yesterday, wed and she's growing some of her hair back. She has tons of black spots on her skin and when i used the small towel to lather her with the solution, you can actually see some of the specks of black skin in the towel. It was like wiping off some paint. Will all the black skin disappear? I hope so. Would like to know if anyone has treated their pets with lots of black spots and would like to know if it came off. I believe my baby has yeast infection too so I'm feeding her yogurt everyday. seriously, my shitzu looks like a dalmatian with all the spots in her body. :-( I can't wait to see her all healed and happy. I was scared while making the solution coz i wasnt sure if i mixed in the right measurements. some say one cup of 3%hydrogen peroxide, mixed with 3 cups of water and some say 2 cups. Also, do you use gloves when dealing with borax of do you pour the mix on your dogs with bare hands? Hope to hear from anyone of you soon. Im so happy i found this site. BTW, i also massage my baby with the baby oil, water and listerine solution before going to bed. THANK YOU TED FOR BEING AN ANGEL TO ALL OF US. OUR PETS ARE HEALED BECAUSE OF YOU!"Replies
03/09/2010: Christine from Vista, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi! Where did you find the borax? I only found the kind in the laundry soap section. I also found a foot soap with borax and iodine as the ingredients. I don't know if I should try it. Thanks!"
EC: Hi Christine,
People are using borax found in the laundry soap section (20 Mule Team) for the mange cure!
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 02/25/2010: Smokeysmommy from Woodland, Wa, Us: "Hello,
I have been trying Ted's remedies for mange on my dog for the past 2 weeks. He had scabs and bloody raw spots on this back. He is sooooo much better now. No raw spots! I am seeing improvement but still feel I have a ways to go. I kept thinking he had a flea allergy or food allergy. Does the black skin go away? I still see him shedding skin and bathe him every 3-4 days with a tea tree oil shampoo and then apply the borax peroxide remedy. Way less itching! He was hiding under the house and itching madly so I am very thankful for this remedy! Should I continue the baths until all symptoms are gone? (I read somewhere here that you should do 2 mos.max?) Also, how long does it take for heavy skin thickening to go away with this remedy? He has that on his lower back by his tail.
[YEA] 02/17/2010: Ivyrose from Moundsville, Wv: "The borax, peroxide mix is a hit! It all started a few months ago with my dachshund. The poor little thing had a terrible odor and her belly was turning black. I did a lot of searching on the internet and found this wonderful site. After the first use, she stopped itching. After 2 weeks her belly started to turn pink again. One month later, you would never know she ever had it. I still use the solution on her weekly just to make sure it doesn't come back. I recommend this to anyone who doesn't like the harsh chemicals a vet wants to use."
02/15/2010: Gerry from Manila, Philippines: "Hi.. earlier today I went out to look for borax for my duchshand(a bit difficult to find). She has mange and I've been taking her to a vet every other week and they'd inject her with Ivomec. It relieves her for about a week and after that, she'd start scratching again. like every min. When I brought her again to the vet, this time the Ivomec doesn't show any effect anymore. My dogs leg is swollen and she has an open wound already. Then her tail is swollen and the butt area. I consulted another vet about the borax which you'd mix with soduim peroxide. What is available here in our drugstore is just the 10% and 20% solution. The vet told me to mix 10grams of borax with 90ml of the 10% peroxide. And that's like less than 1 Tbsp of borax. I wiped my dogs wound with it with a cotton bud, almost finishing the solution. I was holding her so she wouldn't lick or scratch her wound. Her body was shaking cause she just wanted to do something about it. Can i do this everyday? Would it harm her if she keeps licking it? What if i bathe her with it? Would it also harm her if it gets into her eyes? Is the mixture just right?
Please help me with this.."
02/12/2010: Vicki from Milton, Florida, Usa: "Dog Mange Remedy
I am putting stuff together to start this, my question is; can I use this treatment while my dog is undergoing dip treatments with a vet. We had already started them and really do not want to break the two week stretch and have to start over. Doesn't sound like they will be needed and I am REALLY excited at the thought of getting out of the chemical treatments. I would like to go ahead and do at least one last one; really like the vet and she has been very honest about the treatments.
Ready to go...get rid of this mess. Thanks, Vicki"
[YEA] 02/11/2010: Onthemove1952 from Rockaway, Nj: "I am so excited!!! Brief story. I found this home remedy on this site yesterday (during a blizzard). I have a 16 year old Border Collie who because of prior abuse issues cannot be seen by a vet without being "put under" with an injection. Therefore when she had to be seen 4 months ago for a skin infection and her shots it was fairly stressful. Came home with the usual, prednisone shot, pills, antibiotics, etc. Long story short, the infection (and odor, thankfully) cleared up. But the skin infection did not. The prednisone in any dose was causing severe trembling and the chewing and licking were unbearable. Every OTC product was sprayed or rubbed in. My vet did just so much over the phone for a patient he most likely would not seen again because a dog of 16 cannot be given the short term sedative for a visit. At any rate, when I saw the borax/peroxide remedy yesterday, I knew it had to be tried. I went to the store, in a foot of snow, and got the products. Yet another treatment for her :(. I couldn't WAIT to get home from work tonight and see how she was....first thing I saw when I got in was another part of her paint brush tail on the floor.....ugh. Then I realized what she was trying to chew at was the crusty stuff that was covering her undercoat. Sooooo, with a soft touch with a wire brush we soon were rid of a huge pile of white ick and some undercoat of fur. Whoever said on this site that their dog was "happy" for the first time is true!! Her coat is so shiny and black I can't believe it. Granted, we have been dosing her with fish oil and fats, but this is "overnight" magic! One more in the next day or so and we shall see. The hard and scaly skin is softer and no longer red. Can you believe it???? Weaning off the prednisone is next...then she'll be swimming come spring..thank you! Thank you! Feel free to email me at any time for updates.....do this for your dog/cat."
02/01/2010: Barb from Seattle, Wa: "Is this mange?
I leave tomorrow to bring a homeless dog back from peru. She either has mange or an allergic reaction to fleas. Many of us have held her, petted her, played with her and have no infection ourselves, no bites or itching. I have held her on my lap for 4 times taking her to the vet and am fine. Does this mean she does not have mange?"Replies
06/30/2010: Dr. Tamara from Glendale, Arizona replies: "Barb from Seattle: Demodectic mange is caused by a parasite that is always present on the skin of canines. Normally, the mange mites are kept under control by the immune system, but when immunity is compromised or internal conditions are made optimum (often caused from a diet filled with too much grain, sugars and/or low quality proteins) the mites grow out-of-control ... much like when humans get a yeast infection. This form of mange is *not* contagious for pets or humans. Sarcoptic mange, on the other hand, is a foreign parasite that can be passed from dog to dog or dog to human. For humans, the mite infestation is referred to as "scabies" and is normally self-limiting; causing a minor rash that goes away without treatment. It can become a problem for anyone who has immunity/auto immunity issues.
So, to answer your question, *yes* a dog *can* have demodectic mange without spreading the mites to you.
Hope that helps!"
[YEA] 08/30/2010: Rick from Beverly, Massachsetts replies: "This Treatment Works, I have 3 Carin Terriers And 2 have had this condition, The treatment cures this. The only thing is I have to repeat it At the least every two weeks, It is Cost effective , And Does not Make your animal ill at all."
01/31/2010: Expertz from Erie, Pa: "i have a question - i want to use the mange remedy on my min pin she is black . will it change her hair color or is there a weaker recipe?"Replies
02/14/2010: Onthemove1952@aol.com from Rockaway, Nj replies: "I was curious if my Border would become a "henna" Border, if her hair would really become tinted. After 2 applications, there is a very slight reddish tint to the undercoat but not noticeable. For all she's been through she could turn blue, as long as she's healthy! So far, so good after 2 treatments. Also, I noticed the facial area becoming worse afterward. A good application of petroleum jelly seems to have solved that..."
03/01/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan, Canada replies: "Hi:
Ted's mange cure is excellent and will not change the color of your dogs coat. I used the treatment on my min pin(black and tan) and it worked beautifully and quickly. And even if it did lighten the coat, what is your option? Mitiban baths, ivermectin which will ruin the dog's liver. No, and you will be very pleased with the results of borax and H2O2!"
05/11/2010: Kati from Newtown, Ct replies: "Use Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) instead of Hydrogen peroxide. (See Ted's notes above.) Works great and won't turn black fur that orange henna color."
[YEA] 01/31/2010: Booker from Klang, Malaysia: "Hi, I tried Ted's borax cure for my 6yo pug and it seems to be helping her. She had been infected with mange for the past few months but after many trips to the vet (injections and pills and all), the mange is still there, gotten worse and she was getting more and more miserable by the day.
She's a fawn pug and the mange had made her skin completely black, the fur had dropped off at the affected areas and in the worst of spots, scabs had formed.
She had scratched and licked herself raw, and was beginning to bleed at her paws.
Tried her first borax treatment 3 days ago. I mixed 1 part hydrogen peroxide to 2 parts water and mixed borax* till it wouldnt dissolve. Rubbed the solution on her affected parts.
After the 1st application, she looks less miserable and is calmer and is scratching and licking less.
The scabs have fallen off and her skin (even at the worst affected areas) look more "normal".
I am so relieved. My only wish is that I had discovered Ted's remedy sooner!
Am planning to use the remedy on her every 3 days for the first 2 weeks and then to 1x a week till she's healed.
Thanks Ted, Thanks Earth Clinic!
* For readers in Asia, I had a lot of trouble sourcing for borax. Then I discovered that it's an ingredient used for setting "to fu fah". These white granules are quite easily available in Chinese medicine shops and are called %u787C%u7802(Sodium Borate)%u53CA%u787C%u7802%u9178.. I don't read chinese so I just flashed them the chinese characters and it worked. Very inexpensive too. Good luck!"
EC: Sorry, our database has turned your Chinese characters into mumbo jumbo. Perhaps this will work? http://translate.google.com/?hl=en#auto|zh-CN|Sodium Borate
07/21/2010: Amy C. from Austin, Tx replies: "1. I am wondering if the borax - 1% H2O2 solution lightens the color of the dog's hair?
2. I am also making sure that it is okay- & even recommended?- that the dog eat a little borax.
3. And does the borax-vinegar solution work just as well, and if it does, what are the ideal measurements for creating the concoction?
Thank you! Amy"
10/08/2010: Ai from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia replies: "I would like to clarify the post by Booker from Klang, Malaysia on Borax for Asian readers. Borax is not used to set 'tau fu fah' (beancurd). Borax is sometimes used in cooking. In Malaysia, Borax is a banned item, but most chinese medicine hall still carry Borax so it's quite easily available. Thanks."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 01/25/2010: Jan from Biggs, Ca: "I used Ted's dip for mange (used Borax, ACV and water) on my female cat who is about a year old. I also sprinkled Borax in the carpet, the floor, the bedding, etc. Last night was the clincher when I was using the liquid dip on the worst places on my cat, and decided to pour some dry Borax right on the spots and make it pastey, and then poured more liquid on those areas.
My cat quit eating, and then quit drinking water, and this morning she threw up the little bit she had tried to eat, and lots of white foamy stuff. She hasn't eaten all day, but she did drink some water outside on the porch in a bowl - just won't touch anything inside my room.
I've since cleaned up all the Borax from the carpet and floor, cleaned her dishes, and changed all the towels and bedding. She finally came back inside this afternoon. She still won't eat or drink, and has crawled behind some boxes and is down under a long work table in a dark space on the carpet. I'm just leaving her alone but have stayed with her all day.
I've been on the website and read as much as I can, but decided to post this and ask if there's something I should be antidoting the Borax with. I'm sure she got an overdose from my over-eager application of it last night.
EC: Hi Jan, Ted's mange remedy does not include apple cider vinegar. Did you mean hydrogen peroxide?
01/26/2010: Jan from Biggs, Ca replies: "No, I used ACV because I believe it was from one of Ted's posts that he explained that ACV, as well as several other things (MSM, DMSO, etc.), acted to insure that the Borax penetrated the skin and that this is what the hydrogen peroxide does as well. He said that the dry powder will not penetrate the skin and cause the mites to leave unless it is accompanied by something like the peroxide or ACV.
An update. Suki, my cat, seems to be feeling better. She wouldn't touch her normal food or any inside water from her bowl (just water from outside in a bowl on the porch) so I got another brand of dry food that she likes and put that in a dish and she ate some as if she were hungry. She seems very aware that whatever was on the floor and around her food and water dishes is what caused her to be sick. She came in and sniffed all about even though I cleaned, and then she ate some of the new food (still didn't drink water), and then headed back to her safe place under the table behind the boxes. I'm breathing a little easier, but worried about any damage to her kidneys after reading some of the posts.
01/22/2010: Shar from Worcester, Worcestershire, England: "Hi Ted, can I use a 6% hydrogen peroxide solution on the dog? How would I water this down to make it safe to use on the dog?
I have been giving the dog yeast vitamin tablets, cod liver oil, evening primrose oil and omega tablets to boost her immune system. It took me a long time to source the Borax, but we tried a very week solution last night to make sure she wasn't allergic to it and so far she has shown no ill effects and has been scratching less. But we need to know exact solution to make up a big enough batch to properly soak her.
We formerly tried putting apple cider vinegar on her skin followed by vegetable oil, and this has helped sooth the itching but has not killed the mange. We are very keen to see if this borax solution helps her.
[WARNING!] 01/20/2010: Sheila from Ocala, Fl, USA: "I tried Ted's peroxide and Borax remedy for mange. Followed directions to the tea. Well, my lab is 9 years old and her hair doesn't grow as fast as it used to. The remedy turned her black hair red. It hasn't grown out yet and looks awful. Please, anyone with a black dog, beware. There should be a warning about hair color change. Now my dog does look sick!!"Replies
02/18/2010: Jonathan from Orlando, Fl replies: "If you don't blend down the Hydrogen Peroxide, and leave your dark animal in the sun, it will have the same effect as it does on you - this has been a hair-lightening trick for years in Florida. In fact, Hydrogen Peroxide is the main ingredient in all hair-lightening products sold. Make sure you are taking 3% Hydrogen Peroxide down to 1% by blending 1 part to 2 parts water, and that will lessen the effects."