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CURE DEMODECTIC AND SARCOPTIC MANGE

Updated: 11/17/2009

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TED'S REMEDY READER FEEDBACK

122 YEA
7 NAY
1 BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
4 BETTER BUT NOT CURED
4 WORKED TEMPORARILY
1 SIDE EFFECT
21 QUESTIONS

[QUESTION]  03/28/2009: Elaine from Phoenix, AZ writes: "Ted,

If my pets have SARCOPTIC MANGE, I understand to use Revolution from the vet on them, correct? But, what do I do about my bedding, yard, and ME...Do you know if the Borax or Boric Acid work on killing these horrific creatures? I have having a really tough time finding any information about cleaning up the surrounding environments.

Please help, soon!
Thank you,

Elaine"



04/01/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV USA replies: "When Ruff had sarcoptic mange he and Daisy were on the Revolution. I was never bothered by it and neither was Daisy. I did use ACV in a spray bottle on the beds and areas where he liked to lay. I also washed his bedding/toys in the washer with hot soapy water at least once a week. The revolution cleared it up but I think it was too strong for him (he was only 14 wks old) and he developed demodectic mange, which I cured using Ted's solution of Hydrogen Peroxide/20 Mule team borax and Water."


04/12/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "There is a newer species or certain change in the behavior of these creatures. In that formerly they make eggs and live on the dog. Now their behavior has changed where they might leave the dog or eggs are now laid not just on the dogs but on surrounding environment. When that happens, the use of tannic acid solution or a preferred hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution is sprayed on to the area to sterilized them. During sterilization it has to be done a couple of times, but the dog has to be quarantined in the area during sterilization until there is no single eggs left over. That means it is sprayed with borax peroxide 4 or 5 times in the same area. During the quarantine the dog is dipped in peroxide and borax solution a couple of times before returning on the same spot again.

The major problem appears to be that most people do it this way. They dip the dog in the peroxide and borax. Then they let the dog run in former area. However the former area is infested so the dog get reinfected.

Another mistake is this: the dog is dipped, and the area is sterilized. What happens is either the dog or the premise is not all rid off. So if the dog has a few eggs left or the premise has a few eggs left, the dog becomes reinfected. That's because it takes time for the mange to die. It requires at least 5 days of frequent sterilization for this to work for a complete die off of both the dog and the premise. The dog and the premise has to be sterilized and the dog has to be in a different location, during the sterilization. To prevent reinfection. This is not a perfect scheme because most of the problem is the premise simply was not completely sterilized and then there's the dog where the mange was not completely killed. It's not a perfect formula. One addition is a flea collar be put in once the mange is gone.

Ted"

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03/26/2009: Jay from Cavite, Philippines writes: "Can you please send me a picture of the borax and h2o2 solution?

I bought the Borax at a Billiard's Store because I cannot find one in any of the supermarket's laundry and detergent sections and I used the 3% h2o2 solution.

I mixed 300 ml 3% h2o2 with 600 ml warm water then I carefully added the borax. The solution was milky white but there were a lot of borax lumps on the surface. Is this normal?

I dipped my puppy, Calyx, on this solution and he seemed to be doing just fine.

Your answer would be greatly appreciated!"



04/09/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV USA replies: "It should say 20 Mule Team Borax on the box. The box front is yellow with green trim. It has Since 1891 on the front top..It's also says "Natural Laundry Booster" and list the various multi=purposes on it. It comes in a 12 lb 4oz box . It is usually opposite of the detergents, top shelf and if you find it..buy two. It won't be there when you do go back. I always find mine at Wal-mart...not sure I'm allowed to say that but it is the old place short of a country store. Google it..I'm sure you'll find it online."

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[QUESTION]  03/25/2009: Griselda from El Paso, Texas writes: "Hi, I suspect my dog has mange, so I started to read about it and came across with this site, I love all the positive feedback about this remedy and I am serously considering to apply it to my dog. I just have a few questions.

1.I have read that thera are 3 types of mange ( Demodectic Mange, Cheyletiella mange, Sarcoptic mange) I am not sure wich type my dog has, so my question is: Does this remedy cure all 3 types of mange?

2. My dog is old (9 years) is it safe to use this remedy on him?

I love my dog and I hope this can be the cure to his mange. THANK U anticipatedly for the help you all can give me in this matter."

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[YEA]  03/25/2009: Carrie and Tom from Western Springs, IL writes: "After spending nearly $2,200 over the last five months, our fifteen month old German Shepherd (Dirk Reilly) had been diagnosed with just about everything: fleas, food allergies, seasonal allergies, bacterial infection, and now finally sarcoptic mange. The original one patch of missing fur was only about one inch in diameter when we first started treating him. Over time the one patch became two patches and eventually spread to his ears, tail, hips, and even an identical matching patch on the right side by his ribs. We had listened to everything the Veterinarian requested that we do, but nothing had seemed to work for Dirk. Knowing that he had highly sensitive skin, our local pet store suggest we begin adding salmon oil to his food daily throughout all the treatments. The salmon oil definitely made a difference, but Dirk was still scratching and biting. At our most recent visit to the Veterinarian, Dirk was prescribed (yet another) antibiotic along with three additional topical treatments for the sarcoptic mange. As frustration set in with yet another set of prescriptions, we decided to see if there were any other options for treating sarcoptic mange. After reading ALL of the feedback on Ted's solution, with much hesitation, we decided to try the solution on Dirk's sensitive skin. We used 1 cup of three percent hydrogen peroxide, added to two cups of warm water, and then mixed in three heaping tablespoons of borax. After bathing Dirk with a medicated Oatmeal (yummy smelling!) shampoo, we sprayed his entire body with the solution. Not wanting him to lick any of the solution off, we took him over to the park to let him run around and air dry. The next day, we noticed that all of the spots Dirk had lost his fur in now appeared to be extremely red and irritated. (sigh) Not knowing if we should continue to use the treatment because of the irritation, we made the decision to continue for one week, spraying him every other day and using the salmon oil consistently. It has been one week and we cannot believe how much of a difference the solution has made for Dirk - his fur has already started to grow back! Granted, he still has one more topical treatment to use, but we are completely convinced that Ted's solution has made a HUGE difference in treating Dirk. For anyone who is treating their dog for mange, we highly recommend using Ted's solution! We cannot thank you enough for making this information along with the feedback public."

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[YEA]  03/21/2009: Joyce from San Francisco, CA writes: "3/20/2009 Friday (Joyce): I used the Hydrogen Peroxide, Vinegar and Borax on my Cocker Spaniel. I dipped my cocker in the solution late Friday night. Because I was nervous about using it I tested it on my skin. I then made the paste with only the Peroxide, Vinegar and Borax. I let this sit on my arm for about 30 minutes and it didn't burn at all so I knew it would be safe for my dog. I dipped her for about 10 minutes then covered her with the paste. (very messy). Since I did this around 10:00pm I went to bed but noticed she was scratching vigorously. Around midnight I coated her with vaseline however, she continued to scratch vigorously. I got back on line to read additional emails on this site. One woman said her dog appeared to be getting worse but around the second day she noticed improvement. THAT GAVE ME HOPE. So I gave my dog a dose of Benadryl and coated the area she was scratching the most with neem oil. Around 2:00a.m. we both got some sleep.

3/21/09 Saturday (Joyce): Today I dipped her again this time about 25 minutes (I didn't use the paste just the dip). I am writing this email TWO HOURS after dipping her SHE HAS NOT SCRATCHED NOT ONE TIME. Please understand, my dog has scratched almost every hour of everyday for months!!! I have spent so much money on Vets (I've taken her to about 4 different Vets and "The Specialist" nothing worked. Their guessing was costing me a LOT of money so I decided it would be cheaper if I guessed and I went searching online and I found TED. Thank you so much! I will keep everyone current on her progress. By the way my Cocker's name is "The Princess of Egypt" we call her "EGYPT""



03/23/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Joyce:

A paste was used in case no tub was available for the dip. Technically speaking a dip is much better then a paste. However a proper preparation of a paste is not really needed. To make it a stronger solution a peroxide/vinegar/borax is applied onto the dog, a couple of times enough to kill it. This means the solution should stay on the dog for 30 minutes before the paste is applied. The old one I never actually did the paste, I simply make a solution and keep applying the dog long enough that the scratch didn't persist. A dip is much easier to control as we don't need to wash it a couple of times. Generally speaking a peroxide mixed with vinegar, with a borax is a more powerful formulation, which is called peracetic acid. In any event that formula would likely be a 1% solution of H2O2, in equal amounts with vinegar in volume, plus a saturated solution of borax, used as a rinse, but no water rinse where the paste is later applied, in case a tub is NOT available for dipping. In my case I had no tub, but a baby tub might be possible, but this can only happen with a partial dip. In any event a dip is best way to completely kill the mange by using the time as a method of measuring the lenght by which the dogs remains in the dip and hence is more consistent in its result. The estimated time for a very consistent and effective dip from my estimates was a 30 minute dip on the average, but won't work under 20 minutes. So apparently you mentioned of 10 minute dip may not work at the going concentration between 0.5% to 1% H2O2. That's because if you did mix a 1% H2O2 with equal mixes of vinegar, you get a 0.5% H2O2 instead. However a 2% H2O2 beginning concentration in equal concentration would get you 1% final concentration with added vinegar.

I generally don't use this powerful mix and usually go for a weaker ones as it might cause some skin irritation of the dog and I end up removing the dog after 10-15 minutes because of vast open wounds, which would irritate the dog. Hence a spot application or a lower concentration or less vinegar is where I make adjustment so it won't irritate the dog. Therefore I would much prefer to use a hydrogen peroxide 1% and borax as a 30 minute dip without the vinegar, but should itching persists I may add vinegar to make the mix more agressive. In any event vinegar is a good standby and dip is the better than a paste, if a dog tub is available, so I won't use so much of the vinegar and peroxide compared against a much larger bathtub.

Thank you for your feedback!

Ted"


03/26/2009: Joyce from San Francisco, CA replies: "Thank you TED for your reply. I'm a little confused on a couple of things:

1) Should I completely submerge my cocker in the solution for 30 minutes in the bathtub or should I simply use a cup and pour it over her for 30 minutes in the bathtub?

2) Should I do this everyday or every 2 - 3 days?

Update: The underside of her ears are no longer red. The black crust on her neck is slowly beginning to peel off. Her scatching has substantially stopped and when I hold her in my arms her body feels calm. She is on the road to recovery!!! I will keep everyone posted."


[YEA]  04/10/2009: Joyce from San Francisco, CA replies: "Update: My Cocker is doing 80% better. She is happy, playful, calm and sleeps so peacefully through the night. TED words cannot express how much I appreciate you posting this wonderful informative website with information THAT WORKS. I am spreading the word. I spoke with the owner of the hardware store where I purchased the Borax and he's going to try it on his dog. Thanks again."


05/11/2009: Joyce from San Francisco, CA replies: "Update on Egypt. She is 98% cured she only has a nickle size bald spot on one ear. She is 8 years old is back running and playing like a puppy. I will now begin to dip her once monthly along with my second cocker, who by the way never caught mange (interesting). Once again TED, THANK YOU!"

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03/16/2009: Agusta from Dubai, U.A.E. writes: "My 9 year old peke was diagnosed with cysts in his prostate and the vet recommended we neuter him, he was on Marbocyl for 3 almost 3 months from November 2008.

In Jan this year i noticed he had a ear infection omething he never had before, in addition he was loosing fur around his eyes and mouth and the skin was reddish and he was itching the vet said he had ringworm and gave him a vaccine,since the ear did not get better i took him to another vet who said it was a simple ear infection 3 weeks later i took him back and then the vet siad he had ringworm and prescribed intrafungol and a shampoo called micohex hich has miconazole nitrate and chlorhexidine gluconate. i used the shampoo once and then tok my dog back for a stool, urine, blood and skin test

The stool test said he had flotation mites and demodex
The skin test showed demodex present
Please find below report from the vet
''A summary of the abnormal results is as followsCheyletiella and Demodex mites seen in the fecal sample.Bacteria see in the urine sample - which was a voided sample collected from the floor. My advise subject to Dr Sandras approval is1/ Treat Trouble with Frontline/Protektor spray to eliminate Cheyletiella mites2/ Skin scrape the areas behind the ears to look for Demodex mites3/ Collect a urine sample by cystocentesis for urine culture to see if the bacteria are in the bladder or whether they were from the floor, sheath, urethra or prostate. There is no indeciation of renal disease at thsi time I am pleased to be able to reassure you''

I have stopped all their antibiotics the second ear has started an yeast infection
i have put my dog on a complete meat an chicken with brown rice and flax seed oil with grapeseed oil diet .
In additon he has APCV in his drinking water and twice a day i mis one capful of ACV with another capful of APCV and dap the infected areas, the redness seems to be drying up

Please please please tell me what to do i love my dog to pieces i just want him to well again these antibiotics are killing him HELP ME PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE"

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[YEA]  03/10/2009: Lou from Sarasota, FL (USA) writes: "I have just finished giving my 8 month old terrier-mix puppy his 4th bath, using Ted's Demodex Mange Cure (peroxide/borax rinse after shampooing)..it has worked wonders on our little guy! He had been on Ivermectin and a multitude of medicated shampoos, and nothing was working..he smelled so bad we could hardly stand to hold him, even right after a bath..the vet said he might always have this condition...well, Ted's Remedy proved him wrong! We noticed immediate improvement after the first bath, more after the second, and he appears to be completely well of it after this forth bath, but I will keep on it for a bit longer, just to be completely sure. I used 1 cup of 3% hydrogen peroxide, added to 2 cups of warm water, mixed in 3 heaping tablespoons of borax (bought at local supermarket) and, after shampooing with a good medicated dog shampoo and rinsing thoroughly, I applied the borax/peroxide/water rinse over the entire body of dog, making sure not to get any into his eyes, nose, mouth or ears, and then LET THE DOG DRY NATURALLY..per Ted's instructions, I did not rinse the borax mixture off the dog, nor did I dry him with a towel, but let dry in the warm bathroom. He no longer smells, no longer itches, and his fur is beginning to look so much better. This was a miracle-cure for our pup..and I can't thank Ted enough for making it available to the public. Many thanks, Ted."

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02/25/2009: Cedar from Zahirabad, India writes: "Dear Ted: Thanks a million for making this information available. I am in India and cannot seem to find Borax, but have just bought Boric Acid. I tried the recipe on my dog and it seems to have lessened the itching. Just want to make sure that Boric Acid it safe for him, since he licks himself after I have rinsed with the Hyd Peroxide + Boric Acid mixture. Many thanks. Cedar"

EC: WARNING! According to Ted's instructions section on the mange page, boric acid is toxic and should not be used as an alternative.

"...However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax." http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html#TED



02/26/2009: ROBERT HENRY from TEN MILE, TN replies: "My dad used sulfur, boric acid and used motor oil on my dogs and it cured the mange every time. He also used tomato juice on them when they messed with skunks and it worked. I appreciate Ted's contributions, but he puts his britches on one leg at a time just like we all do."


02/27/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "I don't use boric acid at all. I used a saturated borax in 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. Boric acid is never used. In any event, certain mild mange can be helped by applying vegetable oils, but I cannot confirm this. In an event I can't get borax, I might consider benzoyl peroxide 5% applied thinly to the area that's infected to buy some time.

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If the dog needs emergency care I would consider a vet. An exception does occur if the vet can't do anything about it, which does happen from time to time.

Ted "

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[YEA]  02/24/2009: Cathy from Warner Robins, GA/USA writes: "My 2 1/2 year old great dane developed demodectic mange after an illness. She was placed on very expensive meds, prescription dog food and IV injections to boost her immune system. We spent a FORTUNE, the dog got better but a several months later she had an upper respiratory infection and the mange returned. Frustrated and running out of money I found your website and the peroxide/borax treatment for mange. WOW! It worked like a charm. The mange cleared up much faster than it did the first time on all of the expensive medications. She is doing great! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!!!!"

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[QUESTION]  02/19/2009: Kelly from Calgary, Alberta, Canada writes: "Can this mange remedy be used on horses?"

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[YEA]  02/18/2009: Patty from Jacksonville, FL writes: "Micki is a beautiful male miniature dachshund who's breeding career was over before it began due to several patches of demodex mites. The patches were small, but none the less annoying and heartbreaking! When first diagnosed, my vet prescribed Goodwinal Ointment, which seemed benign but still had some ingredients I felt less good about using, so I found Ted's remedy and began using it. I mixed the borax and hydrogen peroxide exactly as specified on this web site, and within a few weeks all his hair loss was gone and his coat is like black velvet ever since. Because of loving in Florida, I use this solution every 2 weeks in the warm months to help keep fleas and ticks at bay as well, since it kills off their eggs.

I have a friend who now has a female mini dachshund who had lost all her hair due to this same mite and I am going to help her treat her dog with Ted's remedy. We will take before and after pictures and hopefully be able to post them here. I also have before and after pictures of Micki and would love to share them.

Thanks Ted's Remedy!
From a happy Micki."

EC: Yes, we'd love to post your before and after photos! Please send to deirdre@earthclinic.com (note: this account uses a SpamArrest filter, so you need to confirm your email). Thanks!

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02/17/2009: Jonny from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada writes: "Mange treatment - Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide and Water

My Dog recently contracted mange and was suffering badly after only a few weeks. It broke my heart to see her in that condition, and taking her to the vet would cost more then I could afford. I tried researching treatments that could be made and given at home (she becomes so traumatized when away from home)

After finding no recomendations other then antibiotic (which can destroy the G.I. system of any animal) I was lost... until I found your site.
I read, and read, and read; gaining a new sense of hope for my sweetheart. I found the mange remedy, and mentioned it to a local vet.
WELL, I knew I was on the right track when he freaked out, border line yelling, saying that "it was a ridiculus idea, get her on antibiotics now, dont waste your time!" and i knew this would work because he never once said it wouldn't work... just to do it his way (no crazy mark-up and bills to hand out... I don't blame him I guess)

I have taken before pictures... and when finished the applications and treatment, will post after ones as well (she is such a gorgous dog... can't wait to see her again with all of her hair)

Thanks, in advance, for this site; the greatest tool in helping our little family members :)"

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[YEA]  02/16/2009: Paula from Lodi, CA writes: "I came across this site while searching for mange cures other than ivermectin for "Bonnie" an APBT that we had rescued. I tried the ivermectin from the vet for about 1 month and did not see much improvement.She started getting the mange when she was about 5 months old. Ted's remedy seems to be helping and her hair is growing back though it has been a few months. I did not realize I should be treating the back yard, inside rugs, etc. We also have an adopted bull mastiff who is 2 and our old dachsund who is 14. They don't seem to be bothered by the mites. I wash their bedding weekly and now include the borax in the wash. I want to make sure I am eliminating/controlling the source for Bonnie so she can recover. The vet also said I could give her 1 benydryl (25mg) twice daily to help with the itching. It seems to help. I'm hoping her immune system kicks in soon and can help her control the mites."

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[YEA]  02/16/2009: Dona Quinlan from Wilmington, VT writes: "My 9 year old Australian Shepherd came down with Demodectic Mange on her face 3 months ago. My vet recommended a shampoo containing Benzoyl Peroxide. After 2 weeks of using this shampoo I did not see any obvious results. My vet wanted to try using a broad spectrum anti-parsite medication such as ivermectin but I decided against using this type of treatment. I found Ted's remedy on the internet and decided to try it and saw results in about 2 weeks. I mixed 2 tsp. of Borax in 1/2 cup of hot water and added 1/4 cup of hydrogen peroxide and followed Ted's instructions on applying it. It's been about 3 months since I started this treatment and can not longer see any signs of demodectic mange. I would say YEA to this treatment."

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[QUESTION]  02/16/2009: RAY from LAREDO, TX writes: "I HAVE BEEN TREATING MY 10 MONTH OLD GERMAN SHEPHERD WITH TED'S REMEDY FOR MANGE. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF I AM DOING THE RIGHT PROCEDURE. 32OZ OF PEROXIDE 3%, 64OZ WATER, 1 TO 1 1/2 CUP OF BORAX. I AM SPONGING HER WITH THE SOLUTION EVERY OTHER DAY AND LET HER AIR DRY. I FOCUS ON THE AFFECTED PARTS WHICH ARE HER CHEST AND LEGS. I HAVE NOT SEEN DRAMATIC CHANGE, SO I AM THINKING IF I AM DOING THIS RIGHT. ALSO, AFTER EVERY SPONGE BATH SHE VOMITS, I AM ASSUMING FROM LICKING HERSELF AND INJESTING THE SOLUTION. IS THIS NORMAL?

PLEASE ADVISE..."



[YEA]  02/17/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "It's not working because the remedy I now required is applied everyday, plus no rinsing as the key. a rinsing would have washed off the borax. A solution should be long enough to take effect. Perhaps putting them in bathtub and reapply during bath for about 15 minutes will be more effective, before leaving the dog without rinsing. Because a saturated borax is used, it is likely very little of borax remains on the dog. So should the dog licks, it should not have induce the vomiting. The amount of both the hydrogen peroxide and borax dose is too low to have any effect. Therefore, either borax flakes too large or hydrogen peroxide in large amount was somewhow ingested during the bathing. Henceforth an easy way to get around this problem is to put muzzle on the dog DURING and AFTER bathing for a couple of hours (say 4-5 hours) before rinsing them a way, thus leaving no trace of anything to cause vomiting for the dog.

If a hydrogen peroxide concentration is too high, may induce vomiting. However, I have no way of knowing the concentration of hydrogen peroxide in the water solution mixed. A hydrogen peroxide solution should be around 1%. So my understanding is that it exceeded that concentration. As to why it is not working. It appears that the solution did not stay on the dog that long.

I have received one report that the use of vegetable oils applied to mange are area of the dog helped. However, this may not be accurate information, but is worth a try and results should be expected in a short time. I prefer coconut oil or olive oil for use is one safe way to give it a try, only after the borax saturated solution in 1% hydrogen peroxide is applied.

Ted"

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[QUESTION]  02/15/2009: Laura from Cherry Valley, Illinois writes: "Ted stated, "I have found mites, or mange to have a large "beehive" hidden somewhere. In which case, quarantine the dog in a small area that is 100% sterile." My question therefor is how long can the mites live off the dogs body? Quarantining "buddy the bulldog" from the rest of the pack is difficult on my ears! ( did you know that bulldogs howl??!?!) Id rather take him on a vacation!

Thanks also for this websight. Buddy has been through 2 treatments of Promeris with no luck and the vet now wants to put him on ivermectin for 1 month at increasing doses which ( as she stated) may lead to nausea, diarrhea, seizures or possibly death....I"m thinking that is not the remedy I want to try!!"

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02/11/2009: Joe from Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin writes: "We thank you so much, Ted from Bangkok, Thailand. your cure The best....

for our dog - so called allergy etc etc ...your cure was the best.whether it was allergy or not for which we spent hundreds of dollars to the vets... your cure mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me.. we applied 3-4 times over 2 weeks.. our sinba the lion back and roaring, no more itchy and scratchy...

thank you thank thank you, you saved our dog..
jo"

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[YEA]  02/07/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV/USA writes: "I have posted several comments on Ted's remedy for demodex mange. The peroxide, h2o, borax solution. I wanted to let everyone know that Ruff, in my opinion, is 95% improved. He still has a couple of scabs on his neck. I am no longer finding them throughout his body. His underbelly was THE worst. He may scratch once or twice a day but it's not consistent scratching. Whenever I do see him scratch, I just warm up some of the solution I have made up and rub the spot down to the skin. I do include 1/8tsp. of borax in his drinking water.

His circles/patches of hair loss show signs of hair coming back. (He never went completely bald in these circles, he just lost hair and they appeared as dark rings). I am just here to give praise where praise is due, and this remedy is due it's share. I also still rub him down with the (blue)Listerine/baby oil/water solution too. It helps soften his fur and I'm sure his skin and boy does he ever smell good. I even spray his bedding, towels and toys with it and alternate with apple cider vinegar (ACV). I still wash his bedding at least weekly along with any soft/fuzzy toys. I throw in borax with the wash as an extra incentive. Thanks Ted and everyone else for sharing your experiences. If I knew where to post the pictures of him before and after I would."

EC: We would love to post your photos, thank you!. Please send them to deirdre@earthclinic.com. (SpamArrest is used on this account because of the hundreds of spam received each day, so please confirm when you get a confirmation email from them.)



03/08/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV/USA replies: "Ruff as a puppyYes, I used Ted's h202 borax and I have been using an equate brand for acne treatment medicine on him whenever I see him scratching. I immediately feel for mange pimples and even if it's a scab, it gets treated. He is on weekly baths and I still rinse him with the h202 borax solution. I also add 1/8 tsp of borax to his and Daisy's drinking water.

The pix of him in his dog house was the way he looked when I first brought him home. He seemed so grateful to have a home of his own. During the winter he has stayed in doors with us. I use ACV to spray the floors and bedding areas as well as his toys on a daily basis. I also wash his toys at least once a week. (The fuzzy ones).

You can see what a shape he was in but he wasn't like this the day I took him to the vet for his neutering. I think the stress of that is what brought this all on. When I took him for his first set of shots. She said he had sarcoptic mange and put him on antibiotics and Revolution. Ruff Mange Photo 1Even though it helped, I think it was all too strong for his little system. The lady that knew of his existence in the back alley said he'd been there maybe 3 wks on his own. He had a really poor start. When I called to him he barked at me but once I kneeled down he came to me, peeing all the way. His fur was so harsh and rough that is was hard to pet him. That is how he got his name Ruff. :D

His little private areas were consumed with mange pimples. Ruff in Healing They are no longer there. (I did forget to mention that I keep a solution mixed up to spray him when needed but I was wondering how long it last once mixed?)

Ruff Healed from Mange

This final pic was just taken the other day. As you can see he is happy and looking healthy. He actually got into the tub by himself, first time with out a fight and him trying to eat me alive. :D

Peggy"



03/08/2009: Nina from Brighton, TN replies: "I have a 13yr. old Chow who has suffered with this skin condition for as long as we've had her..now in the last six months our 1 1/2 yr old Hound has the same problem so i'm sure this is contagious but to date our 5yr old Chahauha has no symptoms..these babies are constantly suffering and until your site we had lost all hope..the chow's condition has gotten so severe if this doesn't work the only option will be to put her down..just over the last several months she's lost all the hair on her neck,chest,around her eyes and everyday she's losing more and more..her legs and paws over the last week. They smell horrible and nothing i'ved bathed them in has worked. Before I try this I need to know if it's safe to use since they have scratched and bitten themselves so bad it's causeing some open wounds..and also the hound almost died last summer after I treated them with flea drops and it either got into the blood stream or he ingested it from chewing..so now I am very cautious about what I put on them. Will the blue listerine mixture burn or sting if it gets on a opened wound?? Or will the borax mixture make them deathly ill if ingested or seeps into a wound like the flea drops did..I pray that the answers you give me are no major reactions will occur because this is the last hope for our old girl "Princess" she's just miserable!"


03/09/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV replies: "I hope someone else answers this as well. Ruff seems to break out with odd puff balls at the site of his flea medicine. I actually haven't had to use any lately cause Ted's cure takes care of the fleas as well. When I do put it on him it's just so he won't drag fleas in on my other dog Daisy. I would try the borax solution first...I use the Listerine mostly as a deodorizer when he comes inside from being out in the hills. It also softens his fur. Mix the borax (20 mule team from Walmart in the laundry section) with the full strength peroxide first then add the water. This helps the solution dissolve better. Maybe try it on a small place first to check your dogs reaction to it. They don't consume enough of it to hurt them, so don't worry about the licking it off part. Maybe use a sponge or cotton ball to try it out first. It will take care of mange odors once it starts working. The vet says this is due to a poor immune system. He was taken away from his mother too soon, dropped off by who knows and left to fend for himself in a high traffic area. I think they wanted him to die and I wanted him to live more! If he gets stressed he will have a spot show up. I just doctor it with the solution I keep mixed up for things like that. The pimples I use an acne cream on. I hope and pray this will help as well, we love our dogs and hate to see them suffer. I think what helped me too is just trying to relax myself and not get to uptight about it. I did start giving him vitamins, more real beef and chicken, and he loves to take yeast/garlic pills (Wally World aka Wal-Mart) I am trying to build up his immune system and it seems to be working. Keep us informed please. Pp"


03/10/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV/USA replies: "I forgot to mention that during Ruff's worse times, he had sores and running wounds and the solution didn't seem to sting/burn him when I used it on him. I wanted an instant cure and in fact it took a couple of months but I did see a change after the very first bath. Be patient, and start them on vitamins as soon as possible. Introduce some good food to them. I have given Ruff cooked chicken and beef, not for every meal but I tried to see that he got some at least once a day and avoid any processed lunch meats and scraps.

Please post something in return and let me know how your dogs get."

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02/06/2009: Pamela from Tomahawk, Alberta writes: "Hi there, We just adopted a rescue "Jack Sparrow" & believe him to be Shepherd/Collie cross. I noticed hair loss around one eye & researched finding this site. From this I guessed him to have Demodectic Mange & confirmed with a Vet last week. She did the scraping & I viewed in the microscope to see these little 'bugger's'. Unfortunately, she gave Jack a shot of I believe "Dectomax" & was told he'd have this injection once a week & monitor (approx.4 weeks). To my horror yesterday when we went for his 2nd shot, we saw our usual Vet & he let us know, thankfully, that this type of medicine can prove deadly for Collies! Of course this was NOT an option any longer & we were offered a blood test to determine if Jack would be at risk for a hefty price of $150.00. As he isn't in a bad way yet, (couple patches & not itchy) I thought we'd try 'Teds' remedy 1st, & right away thanx to this site, I've been giving him immune boosting foods. Also, as it is close to his eye, My Vet recommended using Artificial Tear (contact lense solution) for dry eye, to wash his eye if any gets too close to his eye. Thought I'd pass these two bits of info. on that I've come across as I haven't read yet that Collie's are at risk & I noticed someone asking about getting the "Ted Remedy" in the eyes. As we live out & away I'm hoping it won't be too hard to find the ingredients... And I really hope Jack responds as well as other's. Thank-you Ever So Much for all the information & another option!"



[YEA]  03/11/2009: Pamela from Tomahawk, AB Canada replies: "Hello there again - here's my update from 02/06/2009 about Jack Sparrow. His demodectic mange began around one eye & then spots appeared down his nose, 4 patches on his forhead under chin, & by his collar. I located sodium perborate by calling pharmacists - one told me it is in (100%) Oral-B (the mouth rinse)(made in Belgium). We mixed 5 packets which equals 2 Tablespoons of Oral-B/sodium perborate, with one litre distilled water and saturated the bald areas and rubbed in from his neck up. I took care not to get it in his eye as i got it in mine & OUCH! If this occurs use the eye drops for contact lenses/dry eye. We didn't give him a complete bath. We also continued to feed him immune boosting foods (salmon & dulse/seaweed from Nova Scotia). Initially he produced more bare spots, but soon the hair around his eye - the initial spot was growing back in. We just had a check-up with our Vet & he's pleased as even the new areas have hair growing back. I believe this all has helped overcome those blasted mites & Jack is on the road to complete recovery as hair is appearing quickly now. We will always feed our pets high quality foods & supplement with veggies/real chicken/salmon etc. because i don't believe 'they've' developed a great dog food out there yet simply because of the processing it requires. Again, thank-you for ALL the info.& resources - it has been greatly appreciated! This has been an experience! and i wish all of you & your special paw families the same results! Pamela"

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[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  02/02/2009: Peggy from Delbarton, WV/USA writes: "I've been using Ted's solution mix for a month now. I am now putting an equate brand name for acne treatment. This contains 10% benzoyl peroxide on the mange pimples. When I first started the treatment he was covered in the mange pimples. He's down to just several now. I give him a good rub down to feel for them. I also pay attention to where he scratches, which isn't often. Using a used peroxide bottle I made a solution to use on him in between baths. This has helped a lot. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS. HOW LONG DOES THE SOLUTION RETAIN IT'S HELPING PROPERTIES ONCE IT'S BEEN MIXED? I am wondering if I should change it after a few days or is it good till it's gone?

Something else I saw on here was to mix baby oil, blue Listerine and water 1/3 parts each. I have used this especially when coming inside from outdoors. It really makes the fur soft and helps him smell a lot better. Everything I'm doing I learned from this site. I've even posted it on my dogster and doggyspace pages. I'm not mistaken, this should continue even after control of the mange just as you would any typical grooming care of your dog. I do appreciate any response concerning my question."

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[YEA]  01/29/2009: Sandy from Nampa, Idaho writes: "just to say that i tried the borax/peroxide solution on my dog. i tried everything else and was not impressed by the possible side effects of medication our vet advised. (much less the price). i was amazed. this is the first day that she has not scratched herself stupid. her hair was falling our and she was in so much distress that this was my last resort. (wish i had tried it earlier) i have used this on our 2 other babies because this is contagious and also sprayed everything with the same solution. (i.e bedding etc.) so far the results are amazing. will let you know if it keeps up. (i am giving them a treatment of just a sponge bath every other day for awhile to make sure all the mites and eggs are killed off). thank you thank you thank you."

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[YEA]  01/28/2009: Diane from Belmar, NJ writes: "We rescued a 3 month old boxer/terrier. She has about 3-4 spots of hair loss and also around her eyes; the vet confirmed dermodemic mange. They wanted to use ProMeris which is used for fleas & ticks. I read on the internet that dogs cannot fight the dermodemic mites because of a weakened immune system.So I changed her diet to Innova Puppy Food which is a high protein diet.I also used the borax/hydrogen peroxide dips twice a week; 1 bottle of peroxide mixed with 2 bottles water and dissolved 3 tablespoon borax. I added flaxseed oil, vitamin E and C, echinacea oil, and organic apple cider vinegar to her food daily. Her hair is growing back in less than 3 weeks. Amazing results without the harmful chemicals! Thanks for this wonderful remedy."

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[QUESTION]  01/25/2009: FRANK from YAZOO CITY , MS writes: "I HAVE BATHED MY PICKPOO FOUR TIMES IN HYDROGEN PEROXIDE 2 PARTS WATER AND I PART PEROXIDE WITH BORAX TO SAT. POINT. MY DOG HAS STOPPED SCRATCHING AND SOME OF HIS HAIR IS FALLING OFF AT INFESTION POINTS .DOES THIS SEEM NATURAL AND DOES THIS MEAN THAT HE IS BEING RID OF THE INFECTION? I AM ALSO PUTTING 1/2 TEASPOON OF BORAX PER LITER OF WATER. HOW LONG SHOULD I KEEP UP THIS TREATMENT. SHOULD I RUB HIM DOWN WITH CASTER OIL WHEN HE IS DRY? FRANK "

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[YEA]  01/24/2009: Dragonfly from Traverse City, MI, USofA writes: "For about a month:

1. I used the Borax, peroxide & water, per Ted's directions, to fix the worst part of mange, spritzing my thick-furred keeshond-collie mix every three days.
2. I also gave him a weekly bath using Neem animal shampoo. Immediate normal skin coloring returned.
3. I fed him a daily dish of yogurt mixed with a spoonful of immune-fixing Spirulina. He was very sick before, inundated by the mange and not eating much. Within two days of Spirulina he left his favorite spot and joined us at activities.
4. I also spread a powdery mix of borax & diatamaceous earth all over the house for about a month, rather appreciating the spread being blown around by the ducts and ignoring the messy house look. This dried up all flea activity. And Finally...the healing:
5. Last week, I bought another spritz bottle, some non-scented hypo-allergenic baby oil (a cheap kind) and a blue bottle of Lysterine, original. Mix 1/3 water, 1/3 baby oil, 1/3 lysterine. The lysterine will not hurt, even the sores. It soothes and disinfects! I rubbed it in real good, giving a massage over the many many scales & little bumps and sores. My Rusty stretched into the pretend-scratching of his itches, loving it! It was nearly 5 hours before he scratched himself and bit into himself, so I gave him another spritz, rubbing it in.

Now I only spritz him with the baby oil mix every few days, when he 'points' to it. Then he frolicks all over, too energetic for the cat, so I let him out and he rolls in the snow to remove the smell, tossing snow into the air with his nose, wagging away. His horrible self-mangling has stopped. The bumps are nearly all gone. He rests & sleeps comfortably. He's much happier and so are the non-furred members of this group!!"



02/19/2009: Mags from Salem, OR replies: "A number of you had mentioned you "sprayed" the solution on your dog and/or its bedding. What kind of sprayer are you using. The solution clogs every sprayer i have tried? Thanks."

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[QUESTION]  01/22/2009: Pam from Georgetown, Illinois writes: "I have been reading your solutions for mange and not one of these solutions says how to control and help with mange around the eyes. I know you shouldn't use any of the solutions this close to the eye. My dog has been suffering from mange for a long time, it has never completely went away and her eyes stay bald and slightly swollen. Do you have any suggestions on this?"



[YEA]  01/22/2009: Mary from Regina, Canada replies: "Hi: When I treated my dogs with Ted's cure it dripped all around their eyes. No problems and worked like a charm. If you are worried, just apply with a cloth to control for dripping. The borax wont hurt the eyes. At least it did not hurt my dog's and I just did it the other day. Good luck. Mary"

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