Cure Demodectic and Sarcoptic Mange
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[YEA] 02/17/2010: Ivyrose from Moundsville, Wv writes: "The borax, peroxide mix is a hit! It all started a few months ago with my dachshund. The poor little thing had a terrible odor and her belly was turning black. I did a lot of searching on the internet and found this wonderful site. After the first use, she stopped itching. After 2 weeks her belly started to turn pink again. One month later, you would never know she ever had it. I still use the solution on her weekly just to make sure it doesn't come back. I recommend this to anyone who doesn't like the harsh chemicals a vet wants to use."
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02/15/2010: Gerry from Manila, Philippines writes: "Hi.. earlier today I went out to look for borax for my duchshand(a bit difficult to find). She has mange and I've been taking her to a vet every other week and they'd inject her with Ivomec. It relieves her for about a week and after that, she'd start scratching again. like every min. When I brought her again to the vet, this time the Ivomec doesn't show any effect anymore. My dogs leg is swollen and she has an open wound already. Then her tail is swollen and the butt area. I consulted another vet about the borax which you'd mix with soduim peroxide. What is available here in our drugstore is just the 10% and 20% solution. The vet told me to mix 10grams of borax with 90ml of the 10% peroxide. And that's like less than 1 Tbsp of borax. I wiped my dogs wound with it with a cotton bud, almost finishing the solution. I was holding her so she wouldn't lick or scratch her wound. Her body was shaking cause she just wanted to do something about it. Can i do this everyday? Would it harm her if she keeps licking it? What if i bathe her with it? Would it also harm her if it gets into her eyes? Is the mixture just right?
Please help me with this.."
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02/12/2010: Vicki from Milton, Florida, Usa writes: "Dog Mange Remedy
I am putting stuff together to start this, my question is; can I use this treatment while my dog is undergoing dip treatments with a vet. We had already started them and really do not want to break the two week stretch and have to start over. Doesn't sound like they will be needed and I am REALLY excited at the thought of getting out of the chemical treatments. I would like to go ahead and do at least one last one; really like the vet and she has been very honest about the treatments.
Ready to go...get rid of this mess. Thanks, Vicki"
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[YEA] 02/11/2010: Onthemove1952 from Rockaway, Nj writes: "I am so excited!!! Brief story. I found this home remedy on this site yesterday (during a blizzard). I have a 16 year old Border Collie who because of prior abuse issues cannot be seen by a vet without being "put under" with an injection. Therefore when she had to be seen 4 months ago for a skin infection and her shots it was fairly stressful. Came home with the usual, prednisone shot, pills, antibiotics, etc. Long story short, the infection (and odor, thankfully) cleared up. But the skin infection did not. The prednisone in any dose was causing severe trembling and the chewing and licking were unbearable. Every OTC product was sprayed or rubbed in. My vet did just so much over the phone for a patient he most likely would not seen again because a dog of 16 cannot be given the short term sedative for a visit. At any rate, when I saw the borax/peroxide remedy yesterday, I knew it had to be tried. I went to the store, in a foot of snow, and got the products. Yet another treatment for her :(. I couldn't WAIT to get home from work tonight and see how she was....first thing I saw when I got in was another part of her paint brush tail on the floor.....ugh. Then I realized what she was trying to chew at was the crusty stuff that was covering her undercoat. Sooooo, with a soft touch with a wire brush we soon were rid of a huge pile of white ick and some undercoat of fur. Whoever said on this site that their dog was "happy" for the first time is true!! Her coat is so shiny and black I can't believe it. Granted, we have been dosing her with fish oil and fats, but this is "overnight" magic! One more in the next day or so and we shall see. The hard and scaly skin is softer and no longer red. Can you believe it???? Weaning off the prednisone is next...then she'll be swimming come spring..thank you! Thank you! Feel free to email me at any time for updates.....do this for your dog/cat."
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02/01/2010: Barb from Seattle, Wa writes: "Is this mange?
I leave tomorrow to bring a homeless dog back from peru. She either has mange or an allergic reaction to fleas. Many of us have held her, petted her, played with her and have no infection ourselves, no bites or itching. I have held her on my lap for 4 times taking her to the vet and am fine. Does this mean she does not have mange?"
Replies06/30/2010: Dr. Tamara from Glendale, Arizona replies: "Barb from Seattle: Demodectic mange is caused by a parasite that is always present on the skin of canines. Normally, the mange mites are kept under control by the immune system, but when immunity is compromised or internal conditions are made optimum (often caused from a diet filled with too much grain, sugars and/or low quality proteins) the mites grow out-of-control ... much like when humans get a yeast infection. This form of mange is *not* contagious for pets or humans. Sarcoptic mange, on the other hand, is a foreign parasite that can be passed from dog to dog or dog to human. For humans, the mite infestation is referred to as "scabies" and is normally self-limiting; causing a minor rash that goes away without treatment. It can become a problem for anyone who has immunity/auto immunity issues.So, to answer your question, *yes* a dog *can* have demodectic mange without spreading the mites to you.
Hope that helps!"
[YEA] 08/30/2010: Rick from Beverly, Massachsetts replies: "This Treatment Works, I have 3 Carin Terriers And 2 have had this condition, The treatment cures this. The only thing is I have to repeat it At the least every two weeks, It is Cost effective , And Does not Make your animal ill at all."
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01/31/2010: Expertz from Erie, Pa writes: "i have a question - i want to use the mange remedy on my min pin she is black . will it change her hair color or is there a weaker recipe?"
Replies02/14/2010: Onthemove1952@aol.com from Rockaway, Nj replies: "I was curious if my Border would become a "henna" Border, if her hair would really become tinted. After 2 applications, there is a very slight reddish tint to the undercoat but not noticeable. For all she's been through she could turn blue, as long as she's healthy! So far, so good after 2 treatments. Also, I noticed the facial area becoming worse afterward. A good application of petroleum jelly seems to have solved that..."
03/01/2010: Mary from Regina, Saskchewan, Canada replies: "Hi:
Ted's mange cure is excellent and will not change the color of your dogs coat. I used the treatment on my min pin(black and tan) and it worked beautifully and quickly. And even if it did lighten the coat, what is your option? Mitiban baths, ivermectin which will ruin the dog's liver. No, and you will be very pleased with the results of borax and H2O2!"
05/11/2010: Kati from Newtown, Ct replies: "Use Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) instead of Hydrogen peroxide. (See Ted's notes above.) Works great and won't turn black fur that orange henna color."
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[YEA] 01/31/2010: Booker from Klang, Malaysia writes: "Hi, I tried Ted's borax cure for my 6yo pug and it seems to be helping her. She had been infected with mange for the past few months but after many trips to the vet (injections and pills and all), the mange is still there, gotten worse and she was getting more and more miserable by the day.
She's a fawn pug and the mange had made her skin completely black, the fur had dropped off at the affected areas and in the worst of spots, scabs had formed.
She had scratched and licked herself raw, and was beginning to bleed at her paws.
Tried her first borax treatment 3 days ago. I mixed 1 part hydrogen peroxide to 2 parts water and mixed borax* till it wouldnt dissolve. Rubbed the solution on her affected parts.
After the 1st application, she looks less miserable and is calmer and is scratching and licking less.
The scabs have fallen off and her skin (even at the worst affected areas) look more "normal".
I am so relieved. My only wish is that I had discovered Ted's remedy sooner!
Am planning to use the remedy on her every 3 days for the first 2 weeks and then to 1x a week till she's healed.
Thanks Ted, Thanks Earth Clinic!
* For readers in Asia, I had a lot of trouble sourcing for borax. Then I discovered that it's an ingredient used for setting "to fu fah". These white granules are quite easily available in Chinese medicine shops and are called %u787C%u7802(Sodium Borate)%u53CA%u787C%u7802%u9178.. I don't read chinese so I just flashed them the chinese characters and it worked. Very inexpensive too. Good luck!"
RepliesEC: Sorry, our database has turned your Chinese characters into mumbo jumbo. Perhaps this will work? http://translate.google.com/?hl=en#auto|zh-CN|Sodium Borate
07/21/2010: Amy C. from Austin, Tx replies: "1. I am wondering if the borax - 1% H2O2 solution lightens the color of the dog's hair?2. I am also making sure that it is okay- & even recommended?- that the dog eat a little borax.
3. And does the borax-vinegar solution work just as well, and if it does, what are the ideal measurements for creating the concoction?
Thank you! Amy"
10/08/2010: Ai from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia replies: "I would like to clarify the post by Booker from Klang, Malaysia on Borax for Asian readers. Borax is not used to set 'tau fu fah' (beancurd). Borax is sometimes used in cooking. In Malaysia, Borax is a banned item, but most chinese medicine hall still carry Borax so it's quite easily available. Thanks."
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[SIDE EFFECTS] 01/25/2010: Jan from Biggs, Ca writes: "I used Ted's dip for mange (used Borax, ACV and water) on my female cat who is about a year old. I also sprinkled Borax in the carpet, the floor, the bedding, etc. Last night was the clincher when I was using the liquid dip on the worst places on my cat, and decided to pour some dry Borax right on the spots and make it pastey, and then poured more liquid on those areas.
My cat quit eating, and then quit drinking water, and this morning she threw up the little bit she had tried to eat, and lots of white foamy stuff. She hasn't eaten all day, but she did drink some water outside on the porch in a bowl - just won't touch anything inside my room.
I've since cleaned up all the Borax from the carpet and floor, cleaned her dishes, and changed all the towels and bedding. She finally came back inside this afternoon. She still won't eat or drink, and has crawled behind some boxes and is down under a long work table in a dark space on the carpet. I'm just leaving her alone but have stayed with her all day.
I've been on the website and read as much as I can, but decided to post this and ask if there's something I should be antidoting the Borax with. I'm sure she got an overdose from my over-eager application of it last night.
Thanks, Jan"
RepliesEC: Hi Jan, Ted's mange remedy does not include apple cider vinegar. Did you mean hydrogen peroxide?
01/26/2010: Jan from Biggs, Ca replies: "No, I used ACV because I believe it was from one of Ted's posts that he explained that ACV, as well as several other things (MSM, DMSO, etc.), acted to insure that the Borax penetrated the skin and that this is what the hydrogen peroxide does as well. He said that the dry powder will not penetrate the skin and cause the mites to leave unless it is accompanied by something like the peroxide or ACV.An update. Suki, my cat, seems to be feeling better. She wouldn't touch her normal food or any inside water from her bowl (just water from outside in a bowl on the porch) so I got another brand of dry food that she likes and put that in a dish and she ate some as if she were hungry. She seems very aware that whatever was on the floor and around her food and water dishes is what caused her to be sick. She came in and sniffed all about even though I cleaned, and then she ate some of the new food (still didn't drink water), and then headed back to her safe place under the table behind the boxes. I'm breathing a little easier, but worried about any damage to her kidneys after reading some of the posts.
Thanks, Jan"
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[QUESTION] 01/22/2010: Shar from Worcester, Worcestershire, England writes: "Hi Ted, can I use a 6% hydrogen peroxide solution on the dog? How would I water this down to make it safe to use on the dog?
I have been giving the dog yeast vitamin tablets, cod liver oil, evening primrose oil and omega tablets to boost her immune system. It took me a long time to source the Borax, but we tried a very week solution last night to make sure she wasn't allergic to it and so far she has shown no ill effects and has been scratching less. But we need to know exact solution to make up a big enough batch to properly soak her.
We formerly tried putting apple cider vinegar on her skin followed by vegetable oil, and this has helped sooth the itching but has not killed the mange. We are very keen to see if this borax solution helps her.
Thanks. "
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[WARNING!] 01/20/2010: Sheila from Ocala, Fl, USA writes: "I tried Ted's peroxide and Borax remedy for mange. Followed directions to the tea. Well, my lab is 9 years old and her hair doesn't grow as fast as it used to. The remedy turned her black hair red. It hasn't grown out yet and looks awful. Please, anyone with a black dog, beware. There should be a warning about hair color change. Now my dog does look sick!!"
Replies02/18/2010: Jonathan from Orlando, Fl replies: "If you don't blend down the Hydrogen Peroxide, and leave your dark animal in the sun, it will have the same effect as it does on you - this has been a hair-lightening trick for years in Florida. In fact, Hydrogen Peroxide is the main ingredient in all hair-lightening products sold. Make sure you are taking 3% Hydrogen Peroxide down to 1% by blending 1 part to 2 parts water, and that will lessen the effects."
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01/18/2010: Budsmom from Bandon, Oregon, Usa writes: "Hi I was wondering if you could tell Ted's mange recipe according to a measuring cup recipe? I dont know how to measure cc's. Thank you."
EC: A very easy way to convert is to type into Google's search engine (for example) "500 cc to cups" and you will get the answer. You can also convert to ounces instead. It's fantastic!
Answers looks like this:
500 cc = 2.11337642 US cups
1000 cc = 4.22675284 US cups
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01/14/2010: Pug Owner from Alberta, Canada writes: "Treatment of demodectic mange
I am just wondering as I am dealing with this now, as I can't find info anywhere, do the mites stay on the dog or are they like lice and go onto bedding and couches etc.? What is the best way to make sure he doesn't get reinfested?
Thanks"
01/16/2010: Martina from Burnaby, Bc, Canada replies: "I tried to use Ted's Remedy on my cat but it was just too stressful to bathe her. I found an alternate route by upping her diet to the best organic cat food i could find (to up her immune system) and then I stirred in 1/4 tsp of brewer's yeast to every meal. She ate it no problems. I kept her bed washed and sprayed with a tea tree oil concoction I make. It's a travel size spritzer bottle of water with 8 drops or so of tea tree oil in it. The mites hate tea tree oil, as do ear mites (cured her of ear mites a few years previous with this after only one spray in each). After a couple of days, I noticed she was itching less and less and it finally stopped."
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[YEA] 01/14/2010: Strawberrie51 from Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands writes: "I tried the Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide treatment for Demodectic Mange as indicated and my pitbull is on his way to being100% cured. The key to using this treatment is persistent and consistent attention to ensuring your animal is treated. The stricter you are with doing this, the faster your pet will recover.
My pup had a bad habit of licking himself off. The earlier you catch this problem the better. This mange was spread over his entire body; almost 99% coverage where his skin was tender and raw. Now his hair has grown back and there are still little areas that he continues to lick but those areas are slowly healing.
Education is also another issue. I was told by the vets that he had demodectic mites. I didn't know that that was another name for mange. So after finding this information online I was able to take the necessary precautions and treat him myself because the vet meds weren't working."
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[YEA] 01/13/2010: Pamela from Tacoma, Wa writes: "TED'S MANGE CURE: We have a beautiful sweet cocker spaniel golden retriever mix doggie aged 7yrs old. She has always been a very loving quiet dog and had the best of manners until we moved into an older rental home and she was suddenly infected by mange. We tried all manners of cures for dry skin and allergies before settling with the fact that she was affected by mange and thankfully we found Ted's cure!
We translated Ted's cure of 500cc Peroxide, 1000cc Water and 3 Tablespoons Borax to 17 ounces Peroxide, 34 ounces Water and 3 Tablespoons Borax. To make the application easiest, we used an empty spray bottle and sprayed doggie thoroughly while rubbing the application through the hair. We applied it after her bath while her fur was mildly towel dried damp. We additionally applied the spray two- three times a week without additional bathing.
This was truely a miracle cure for our sweet doggie girl. She felt much more calm and stopped biting and scratching pretty quickly after each application when the fur was dry. We thoroughly vacumed our home and followed that by using the Borax in the wash of all the family bedding and dog bedding as well, (following box directions). The Borax is a normal laundry additive that was easily found in our grocery store and I also found it in the neighborhood Target department store in the laundry detergent section.
Definitely a YEA! from our home--- We can't be more thankful for Ted's post!"
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[YEA] 01/01/2010: Michael from Joplin, Missouri Usa writes: "After watching our large lab/schnauzer mix slowly develop scarcoptic mange we tried several over-the-counter remedies that did nothing. His hair from the neck back began to fall out and he would bite himself raw in several places. Happening across Ted's remedy on an internet search we tried the borax/peroxide dip treatment. Amazing! The first night, he slept through with no scratching. We treated him (this is the fifth week) once a week for two weeks, then a 10-day interval, 2-week interval and now we plan to once a month. After two weeks he totally stopped biting himself and after three weeks, his hair has begun to come back. 1/2 box of borax in only 3 gallons of warm water and 2 ounces of hydrogen peroxide in the solution.We dipped the solution over him in the bathtub and let him air dry and what a transformation! Thank you so much for your treatment plan...(make sure the borax is totally dissolved. The first time I left borax grains all over him and when he shook himself...well, the entire bathroom needed scrubbing along with various furniture pieces all over the house...you get the picture)"
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[YEA] 01/01/2010: Bambifox from Richmond, Va, USA writes: "My German Shepherd puppy was diagnosed with Demodex Mange when he was only 2-3 months old. It started with just a small missing patch of hair around his eyes. I took him to the vet and they gave him a Mitaban dip. That's when the mange really started to spread. It spread to his nose and other side of face, his belly and hind legs. Fortunately, I found this site. Made Ted's remedy (1 part peroxide to 2 parts water and added borax until it started settling at the bottom). Immediately the itching stopped. Within the first day, I could see improvement. In one month, it was completely gone. "Smokey" is now almost 6 months old with a full beautful coat and no more MANGE!
Just as a side note. I washed him with benzoyle peroxide shampoo from vet first and then applied Ted's remedy and let air dry twice a week for the first 3 weeks. After that, I just applied Ted's remedy as needed and where I saw him itching without bathing him first. I used a sponge at first, but found that a good paper towel works best on linoleum (stained my carpet...oops!)
Lastly, since my dog is a pup, I started him a puppy vitamins designed to boost immune system. Can't give brand name here, but I can say the main ingredients were spirulina and chlorella. I absolutely believe this has contributed towards building his undeveloped immune system substantially and has kept the demodex from reoccuring. Having taken both spirulina and chlorella (blue-green algies) myself, I can also vouch for it's immune building qualities and health benefits.
Again, Thanks Ted...and Thanks Earth Clinic...I LOVE THIS SITE!"
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[QUESTION] 12/16/2009: Amandac from Pulaski, Virginia writes: "I am interested in trying this solution, my dog has mange under her arms, on her face somewhat, and mainly around her left eye. Should I apply this mixture around her eyes, I've never used Borax so I don't know how harmful it could be to her eyes or her face?? Thanks so much for the help."
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[YEA] 12/16/2009: Rtomazon from Redsprings, North Carolina writes: "Teds Mange Treatment
I had a female who was whelping a litter of puppys and had an outbreak of mange. I could not find any thing to use on her and the puppys so I tried the 3 percent proroxide, nine parts water ( filled the peroxide bottle up nine times) and borax until it did not dissolve in the mixture (approx. 3 tablespoons) and i noticed improvement right away. I also used it on the 4 week old puppies with no side effects and they were still nurseing her. I did this dip for 6 days and now mom and pups are fine with no mange!! Thanks Ted!!"
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12/09/2009: Mateo from Cartago, Costa Rica writes: "hi, I have a dog with mange and i'm ready to try ted's mange cure. I'm just wondering if all borax is the same , because I bought a bag of borax in a general/hardware store. It's just a regular plastic bag with no label. So my question is, does it make any difference what kind of borax it is. i Assume it's all the same stuff or is some Borax stronger than other.
Thanx,
Mateo"
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12/08/2009: Mary from Saluda, Sc, 29138 writes: "I was wondering if the Borax in the solution is the Borax laundry detergent or the Borax pesticide...and I was curious if it would make a difference"
EC: People are using the borax found in the laundry aisle for Ted's remedy.
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[YEA] 12/08/2009: Geri from Shasta, Ca writes: "Borax cured my dog
Like many others my dog suffered from itching, she would tear the hair off her back above the tail, I tried the vet, they kept say put frontline on her, this did not work. After reading your site, I thought what do I have to lose so I mixed 5 gallons of warm water, 6 2/3 ounces of hydrogen peroxide 3%, and dumped Mule Team Borax straight into the bucket about 1 cup. As soon as I started dumping it on her I noticed she stretched out like it felt good and I continued to soak her with it. As soon as I was done she took off running and playing for an hour or so straight. I would not have believed if I had not seen it for myself, this was 2 days ago, Borax changed my dog life and mine. She now is so calm, sleeps, and has a huge smile on her face. Thanks so much for giving her back to me. For everyone out there reading this just try it, why not, my dog suffered for 2 years."
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12/06/2009: Sini from Paris, France writes: "Hard to diagnose, is this mange?- Currently diagnosing what is going on with my black terrier (1 year) and a golden (3 years).
The blacky got itchy skin, and crusts first on back legs, then on shoulders, stomach, a few on the head. No hair loss! No smell. Just itching, dry flaky skin, some redness, and a build up of yellow/brown crust in single spots or clusters, typically size of pea to an inch. The dirt sticks to those wet crusty areas, and with hair, it forms thick hard layers. Once you scratch them and lift them up, below is redish wet skin.
The vet took a lab test of the crusts, and said it was the bacteria - hence we did 10 10 days of treatment, plus the anti-bacterial shampoo. All went well, then ir relapsed, quite fast.
How I got suspicious of mange, is that the golden began scratching meanwhile (has never done that before) and now his elbow is cover in a thick crust with red skin. No hair loss (yet?).
Appetite is good, no other issues. Other than I have weird random itching now too, which makes wonder what is going on.
We live next to a park and the house and yard is under big treas, bush, dirt and mud, and there is lots of rain here.
Also - where one can find this in France or Uk? Tried looking for Borax (Franc) at 10 places from pharmacies to drogueries (house chemicals), general house supplies and builder stors (aka home depot), and nothing.
Got the peroxide at the local pharmacie (3% 500ml).
grateful in advance for suggestions
simo"
EC: EC has a couple of posts in the "where to buy borax" section for the UK here.
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[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 12/03/2009: Kate from Sparta, Missouri, USA writes: "I rescued a bulldog that has severe demodectic mange and has had it for over a year. I did the Borax treatment and immediately he had relief, no more itching and the redness was gone. I also gave him Flaxseed oil daily. After 4 weeks he developed pustules full of blood on his body and thick creamy stuff in all wrinkles and toes, I am assuming pyrogerma and yeast? So I discontinued the Borax treatment and started the Borax/Baking Soda yeast treatment. The yeast and pyroderma is gone now but the mange is back, his skin is red and hot again. I have started the Borax mange treatment again and am seeing great results but I am afraid he will get the pyroderma and yeast again if I treat too often so I am only treating once a week but I am also afraid this will not be often enough to cure the mange. I have also put him on a completely raw diet. I don't know if I did the mange treatment too often and irritated the skin or what is going on. Does anybody have any advice on a specific regimine I can use to deal with all these issues? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to directly email me at katedenck1@aol.com
Kate"
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[YEA] 11/25/2009: Rhandy from Cagayan De Oro City, Philippines writes: "i would like to thank TEDS remedy for my mange on my labrador pup KENJIE. its really working fast. i just started using it nov 22, now i can see some improvement, hairs are growing back, and no more scrathching. i also used it to his mother AIRAH, and it really worked no more fleas and tick, also hairs ang growing back and there is no scratching.."
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11/24/2009: Beverly from Phoenix, Az writes: "My dog has really bad dry skin and mange, I started with the borax, what do i do about the the dry skin???????"
Replies11/24/2009: Frank from Stamford, Connecticut replies: "For dry skin issues, add one fish oil capsule with highest omega 3 that you can find to her meal every day and the dry skin should be gone in a week. We don't pierce the capsule because our dogs like to eat the capsule, but you may need to and squeeze out all the oil into the food."
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