11/13/2012: Layla from Manchester, England: "Hi ted few simple questions, you mentioned that one can use vinegar to replace hydrogen peroxide 1% with the Borax treatment for mite. Do I dilute it or use it as it is , and if so how much do I need. Is it as..."
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|Ted's Dog Mange Cure||158 YEAS|
Ted's Dog Mange Cure (Most Popular)
DO NOT CONFUSE BORAX WITH BORIC ACID!
DO NOT USE BORIC ACID IN PLACE OF BORAX!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes, "The best cure for dog mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me."
More Exact Measurements (excerpted from various emails on our Reader Question & Answer Section)
Ted replies, "A definitive recipe is add 1-2 tablespoon of borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. To make a 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1%, roughly get one part of 3% H2O2 plus two parts of water. Then apply them on the dog. Wash with this solution daily, no rinsing. If it doesn't go away, I have found mites, or mange to have a large "beehive" hidden somewhere. In which case, quarantine the dog in a small area that is 100% sterile."
"Approximate measurements are 1 bottle of 500 of 3% H2O2, plus 1000 of the cc of water, plus heaping 3 tablespoons of borax. Stir until most of borax is dissolved. The borax is past the point of saturation here so you will see some borax around. Technically the concentration is around 1.5% H2O2, and this is a bit stronger because by the time we finish with it, the H2O2 gets reacted with other things, and by the time we used it is is usually ends up near a 1% solution anyway."
"You need to get put as much borax until it no longer dissolves in a pail of water and forms a precipitate. This is a saturated solution of borax. Add H2O2 to about 1% concentration to a pail of water. Soak the entire dog, several times. Keep the dog wet for some time. The borax will destroy the eggs from laying under the skin which causes the mange. Get some solution and spray or use this to wipe all floors so the dog will not get re infected. Repeat this every week when bathing. This is not a perfect cure, but it my dog now no longer have mange. My dog was completely cured. You can try other chemicals such as sodium perborate, which is more convenient since you don't need to add the hydrogen peroxide."
"The solution (borax or preferably sodium perborate) is to be applied AFTER the shampooing and rinsing. The sodium perborate should remain on the dog after the bath. You will not rinse this at all. It must remain on the dog throughout the day so that it will act continuously on the bugs."
"However, I do recommend a less toxic form of borax, which is sodium perborate if you can find one. The secret is that borax (plus hydrogen peroxide) will work better then most other remedies I have tried, this includes mineral oil, neem oil (no, neem oil does not kill the mange as effectively as sodium perborate) I have tried it. In my "mange colonies" and commercial brands to kill insects don't work. Hydrogen peroxide DOES NOT KILL mange, I USED IT SIMPLY USED IT AS A CATALYST for ordinary borax in case you cannot obtain sodium perborate. Mineral oils simply prevent oxygen from reaching mange, but that didn't stop it. I have tried naphta, bentonite clays, DMSO, potassium permanganate, light fluid, etc. They all worked temporarily, and it just came back. I must make a strong statement that the formula (borax+h2o2 or sodium perborate) works bests and it is broad spectrum. You can use it to control mange, mites, fleas, and lyme disease (initiated by those crawly insects). I have actually compared side to side with neem oil, mineral oil, apple cider vinegar and others here in Bangkok and this is the most wide spectrum cure I have found. Borax prevents denaturation of DNA/RNA in dogs and I currently use this as life extension for dogs. For example a ribose sugar, deoxyribose sugar, and various sugar that causes accelerated aging in dogs can be slowed down with supplementation of dogs indirectly when you do the borax wash. "
"Prepare peroxide 1% solution, add 2-3 tablespoon of borax to that cup. Stir and wait for a couple of minutes for the borax to dissolve. The formula doesn't require an exact science. The importance is to add enough borax until the solution is no longer soluble and well past saturation."
"...The reason why it is not working is YOU CANNOT RINSE THE DOG OF borax and peroxide solution with any shampoo or water. After bathing the dog, keep the dog that way, no drying no rinsing. This is why the dog has not improved. Also BORAX is added DIRECTLY to the 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and no water is added separately, otherwise the solution is too weak."
7/12/2006: "I have reviewed all the dog's mange treatments both by my own tests and by many contributors. It appears that many people have trouble obtaining materials, such as sodium perborate hydrate, so I revised the remedy to hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution applied only once or so every week. The solution of sodium perborate hydrate is very much similar when borax and hydrogen peroxide is added. Some have either substituted hydrogen peroxide with benzoyl peroxide.
The problem about benzoyl peroxide is the upper limit by which you can use it without effect the dog as it is somewhat more toxic if given beyond a 10% concentration. 5% is usually a safe concentration. Benzoyl peroxide because of its toxicity is somewhat of an insecticide, while hydrogen peroxide is not, what it is in the original formulation is that it is a penetrant allowing the borax to go through the skin. Now some did not like hydrogen peroxide due to its limited supplies, so they make use of apple cider vinegar. For me a regular vinegar will do. Both a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide has two similarities. It is both a penetrant and when added with a safe insecticidal material such as borax, which has an toxicity on LD 50 equivalent to that of salt, this is the preferred method. However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax.
Boric acid is not recommended for use as it is much more toxic than borax. Borax's toxicity is about 3000 mg/kg, which is the equivalent toxicity to about that of salt. (check wikipedia). The idea is to make a solution of borax so that the solution can cover the entire body and penetrate through the skin of the dog to kill the demodex mites, for example. To use a spot treatment by pure powder will take an infinitely long time as it does not get to it through the dog's skin.
In some cases, people have tried neem oil, mineral oil. Both of these have similar effectiveness, but in different ways. Neem oil prevents the Demodex fleas from laying eggs by modifying their hormones, while mineral oils are moderately toxic only to the demodex eggs, not necessarily killing them. However, both are very limited based on my tests in really killing the insect. You see borax will both kill the eggs, modifying the hormones and their eggs by drying them all at once. The weakness of borax is limited solubility and limited penetration of the skin which you need either vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (toxic), MSM or DMSO solution. Ideally 10% DMSO should be preferred.
Pine Sol has limited insecticidal effectiveness, being a contact insecticidal, and does not provide lasting killing power once it has evaporated and does not kill living fleas, but it does kill their eggs somewhat. Only a fairly concentrated solution works and it does not prevent re-laying of stray eggs by the dog. In other words, the use of neem oil, mineral oil, benzoyl peroxide, and vaseline will not prevent the recurring of mange since eggs are not just on the dog, but can be anywhere in the house. Therefore re-infection is at issue. The one magic that borax has over its neighbors is that the borax powder that the dogs leaves in the house will kill the eggs even after the dogs no longer has mange and re-infection is therefore next to impossible. However, borax has limited effect on killing the larger mites and fleas, but not mange.
I found that adding 1/8 teaspoon per liter of water of borax added to the dog's water will cause the larger fleas to dry up and die at the same time. My dog for some reason likes to eat something like more than 1 gram of the sodium perborate crystals whenever he feels sick and the fleas just die off. The borax modifies the dog's blood and kills the mange inside out. This is why borax, i.e., sodium perborate, is required for mange, but not anything else due to preventive re-infection of the mange by the powder of the borax that destroys the eggs where the dog sleeps and where it walks around throughout the house.
VASELINE: The problem about using vaseline as an insecticide is that it has limited killing of eggs, but its weakness is that it is not a penetrant, and therefore the frequency of applications will take at least once every other day. Additionally, the hair of the dog will prevent proper application.
Some have went so far as to not use a solution of borax with hydrogen peroxide as a rinse then followed likely, perhaps a borax powder after bath. On the argument of being effective only as a spot treatment. Since dogs do not have sweat glands, not using a rinse will prevent the borax from absorbing into the skin to kill the mange under its skin. So this is not going to work. You need both borax as an insecticide, the water as the solution which to spread it to the skin surface, and a reliable penetrant to get it through the skin, such as vinegar, msm, DMSO, or even hydrogen peroxide. A benzoyl peroxide is both a penetrant and insecticide, but at higher concentration is somewhat toxic for dogs and as a result you are pretty much limited by the maximum concentration not to exceed beyond 5% being a preferred safety. I would prefer to limit myself at 3%.
I therefore suggest, not to get you lost in the woods, is that whatever formulation you use, always stick with borax and borax derivatives, such as sodium perborate monohydrate being the main insecticidal chemicals for the dog.
Pyrethrum is o.k. but in very low concentration of about 0.1% - 0.2% to prevent skin irritation for the dogs near the skin infection areas. The second mix you need is always the penetrant and the third formulation is appropriate dilutions in water. To provide lasting killing effect, non of these chemicals should generally be non-volatile insecticidal mixtures, which unfortunately most recommended are, with exception of perhaps borax and bentonite. Bentonite causes eggs to dry, so they can be used also, but they have no insecticidal mixture as borax and borax can performs both killing the insect, modifying the hormones to prevent egg laying, becomes a stomach poison for the insect, and at the same time causes their eggs to dry up.
I therefore will remain very flexible about what penetrants you use including hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (limited concentration), and vinegar. It must be noted that when formulating any mange it must be noted that they must be non-volatile and the chemicals should cause microscopic residues around the house so that re infection of mange is prevented, including mites and fleas.
I think this wraps up the basic theory and application of mange treatment, and hopefully other people will make a more effective formulations in the future at least equal or better than the original formula I have proposed. Just want to tell you that there are many ways you can treat mange, but the issue is one of toxicity, re infection, toxic levels, which portion kills it and how, and which is the penetrant which is the key to it all. Penetrant is important, the chemical must reach the target demodex under the skin. Usually hydrogen peroxide, vinegar, DMSO, and MSM will do that. It must be reminded again that borax, to work most effectively, is to prepare a solution without washing it off, followed by a small amount of borax powder to be applied if you wish. Any other application other than this such as using as purely powder form is NOT going to work.
06/08/2011: Khaiye from G.m.a, Cavite, Philippines: "Hello to everyone... I've been having problems with my dog too.. Me & my husband got our pug when he was only 5 months old & we named him pogi which means handsome in English... After a month, I noticed that he have a bald spot on his back. I wasnt worried at 1st but it got worst as days goes by.. Long story short, I found out that our pug have demodectic mange. He is now 8 months old. I took him to 3 vets already and spent a fortune on medicines and his medicated dip every week. 1st week after his medicated bath, he was looking better. But after 3 weeks, his red spots came back and he starts to scratch like crazy again and its making me worry so much so I got him a dog cone & he looks miserable. His body is full of bumpy red spots like pimples. His skin turned black too. I didnt wanna see the poor dog suffer anymore & spend a fortune visiting the vet and his medicines that doesnt seem to work.
I went online to research if there is a home remedy for his mange & I came across this website and read Teds mange cure. I went out and had to find borax but couldnt find it anywhere so I just ordered online and hopefully it will be here by tomorrow. I already bought hydrogen peroxide & a measuring cup. I read positive feedbacks from people that used the solution.. & I will definitely gonna try it to my dog and have our whole house disinfected using the solution.... I will post again soon...
does anyone knows how to post before & after picture here?"Replies
06/17/2012: Peggy from Delbarton, Wv USA replies: "If you go to page 7 under this topic you'll see my before and after pictures of Ruff. It's been a while back but I believe I had to submit them to the owner or cantacted her first and got permission. As you can see it really helped him. The sad thing is he came back from the vets with this. I just took my mini border collie two weeks ago and he's never had one flea or chewed himself. He now has both. I so wish I'd never taken him for his shots and allowed them to put chemicals inside his little body. Rabie shots are all that's required and all he'll ever get again. That's why I'm here looking for a remedy for this. I feel so sorry for him. Good luck with your dog."
07/24/2012: Teriinttown from Tacoma, Wa replies: "To enhance the exterior treatment of the Mange, strengthen the dogs immune system. The best way to do this is to take your dog off dry kibble and feed them strictly raw food diet for a few months. There are some very good suppliers who deliver the food frozen. You can make your own, but strictly follow a recipe designed by a vet, because the fat and vitamin balance is critical.
When I rescued my dog.... she got a raw food diet for 4 months and it converted a sad looking dog to a well muscled gleamingly healthy dog that looks much younger than she is.
Raw food is expensive, but vet bills more so."
09/17/2012: Judy from Lacrosse, Wi replies: "Dear Ted, please accept my apologies for not being able to comprehend the exact formula/s. Could I ask that you would post them more plainer and no metric system involved. If you do not want to do this here, please email to me. I would be very thankful.
Secondly, is borax toxic to humans, such as your formulas here?
11/13/2012: Layla from Manchester, England replies: "Hi ted few simple questions, you mentioned that one can use vinegar to replace hydrogen peroxide 1% with the Borax treatment for mite. Do I dilute it or use it as it is , and if so how much do I need. Is it as effective as h peroxide 1%. Ps would the h peroxide not slightly bleach the hair. Also can I may be use about 1/2 a cup of borax in the bath for the kids, may be with some lavender to ease possioble irittations , or would the borax be too harsh for their skin
We were infected few times over the years. The different treatment that worked from homeopathic (it was sulfur and cant spell the other one personium or somethinglike that), triphala , and permethirine , they would not work the second time round even at one point with a 3 year gap. this time we tried more permethitrine x 7 times , chinease tea and spregal spray and I became really ill after that treatment I did use that spray a few times on me
We also tried lot of other things like neem tea tree, salt, bleach( but only on me) , some indian oil , rosmary , mint, ext they only ease , however the lavender is great at stopping the itch.
alas this time round I have a severe allergic reaction to them, I have been suffering from urticaria and odiuma (swelling of eyes, mouth )ext great and taking lots of different anti histamin with marginal success , thats all my dermotolgest gives me. by the way has it effected anybody else like that.
ps sorry for the spelling
05/05/2011: Maggie Mae from San Jose, Ca : "Please help, My teacup yorkie has been suffering from mange for far too long.
I am familiar with benzolyl peroxide cream to treat sarcoptic mange and have used this successfully on my German Shepard in the past. I am reluctant however to use this on my little dog. She is only 3.5 lbs. I always want to make sure that anything I put on her body or in her body is not going to be more than her little body can tolerate. I am also familiar with food grade hydrogen peroxide and It's benifits. But 35% is way too much and I know all I need is over the counter diluted 3%. What I need to know is the portion and strength of borax to use to hydrogen peroxide. I know peroxide alone is not gonna solve this little dog's problems. So a recipe please and feedback to its effectiveness."Replies
10/24/2011: Deborah from Surrey, B.c. replies: "The peroxide is one part then two parts water, so if use one cup 3% hydrogen peroxide, you use two cups of water to dilute, then tree tablespoons of borax, this treatment works, wash everything constantly in borax, I used half a cup to a load. Sprinkle carpets with half and half borax and table salt, and just leave it on carpet for a few weeks, don't let animals walk on, keep them on a tile floor, which you wash also with borax and water as a cleaner. If its really bad, talk to pharmacist about a sulfur dip, I was told it really stinks. So I tried borax treatment, in one article it says to put mineral oil in eyes, do not, it burns there eyes, just clean with eye cleaner from your vet. Don't forget to deworm, I'm using a holistic blend natural wormer, as my two dogs are on heart medications. To find out where a store near you, heres their 1-800-954-1117, I also noticed a liquid parasite remover at the superstore. Hope this helps! Will have to repeat treatment, I also put a few drops of olive oil in their ears everyday or every other day untill they stoped shaking there heads, this drowns the mites."
08/31/2012: Jathan W from Saginaw, Tx replies: "I think I'm confused. I rescued puppy, bottle fed her. We est her about 4 months old and now above her eye is going bald.
I mixed borax, peroxide, and water to treat mange. But I think I mixed it wrong. Is it suppose to be paste, or feel like "salt water" when I pour and rub it on her? I mixed allot so I could make sure her whole body was covered. Am I doing something wrong
[YEA] 04/03/2011: Rick from Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada: "Hi I want to thank you for the home remedie for mange. After a year of vets and pills I came across your site and all the success other people had with your mixture. I had nothing to lose my dog was driving us crazy with his scratching and the vets didn't help and I was over$1500.00 in bills and like someone said for less than $20.00 my dog can now sleep once again. I want to thank you so much for the information it truly helped us and the dog, it brought us all back together again I am sure other people out there know what I am talking about. Thank you again and I hope other families have success with this treatment."Replies
07/04/2011: Rachelle from Porter Ranch, Ca replies: "I run a dog rescue and one of our dogs have demodectic mange so bad, she is almost totally bald! I do not understand the measurements of this mixture.... What is the exact measurements and what are the ingredients?
I do not understand how often to put this mixture on the dog.
I also do not understand if you just leave this mixture and week after week for the one to two months that you do this treatment.
Please help! I want to start her on this ASAP"
02/27/2011: Monica from Luray, Va: "I would like to thank Ted for his mange cure remedy. It really helped our Cairn Terrier. He had it so bad and now he is no longer bald and bloody. It took a month of the soaking and was so worth it. Right after the first soak I could see the difference. He has a couple hot spots and I spray them with the solution as needed. I have before and after photos if you would like to see them. Thank you so much for helping the suffering animals!!!!!!
06/13/2012: Gracie from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "I agree with Jennifer from Denville, New Jersey (she posted on 12/12/2011). I have a 15 month old pug that began battling demodectic mange when she was 4 months old. It began on her face, as almost all demodectic mange does because their face connects to their mom to feed after they're born. Demodectic mange is passed on by the mother to her puppies. All dogs have these mites on their bodies. A healthy, strong immune system keeps these mites under control. It's when the dog's immune system is weak that the outbreak occurs. You'll mostly see demodectic mange on puppies and old dogs, since puppies are just starting to build up their immune systems, and old dogs are becoming weaker due to a long life of eating processed kibble and cooked canned dog food with all the added preservatives and chemicals.
Focusing on improving the dog's health so that their immune system can control the mites is, in my opinion, the best route to take rather than putting toxic chemicals onto their skin and making their already weak immune system even weaker. You can help improve their immune system by changing their diet to a raw diet. This is the diet they were naturally designed to eat in the wild. Every species on this planet is designed to eat a specific diet. Man's best friend is dying from some of the same diseases humans get now-a-days because they are eating the same processed toxic type of food. Stop eating processed food for a week and eat fresh fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds and you will see how your health will improve. Keep doing it a while longer and a lot of your illnesses will dissappear. Being sick is an allergic reaction to toxins in our bodies. Simply change your diet and you can get rid of disease. Such a simple solution and yet people won't believe it. Some people put their faith in pharmaceudical drugs and toxic skin applications that only cause future side affects and often worsen the situation. Ever heard of a diabetic that was cured from taking medication all their lives? I've only known ones that have gotten worse.
Go back to what nature intended for us to eat. Unprocess, uncooked, unmodified food. Change your dog's diet to a raw diet and then just be patient while their bodies begin to detox all the so-called food and toxic medication they have been on. After they detox, their immune system will begin to strenghthen and sooner or later the demodectic mange will be under control by the miracle work of a strong immune system. It could take months and even up to a year or so, so be patient. In the mean-time, keep your dog happy, as stress is known to be a contributor to mite outbreaks. Let your dog get some sun everyday and avoid processed treats, yeast, grains, fruits and toxic dips/medication."
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 02/25/2011: Happieme from Makati, Philippines: "I tried Ted's remediesÂ on my black labrador. I can see improvement on his skin, however I noticed that his fur faded and is now a bit chocolate brown :("
[YEA] 02/10/2011: Dallas from Amesbury, Ma, Usa: "This is a bit late in coming, but I want to thank everyone responsible for Earth Clinic, esp. Ted. EC is the first place I go when I, my family, or my pets have a health problem. One problem in specific was (note: past tense) our dog's mange. I had thought she had allergies and tried everything I could think of to cure her itch. Then, as more and more hair fell out, I noticed that not only her face, but 2/3 of her body was covered with red bumps and her hair was very sparse.
In desperation, I tried Ted's mange remedy. It stopped her itching. She was severe, and every two days or so, the itching came back so I filled a spray bottle and sprayed her - rubbing it into her skin. I bathed her once/week with the peroxide/borax solution at first and tapered off as she got better. I also gave her zinc - about 25 mg/day and tapered off after a week. It took perseverance but she eventually healed and it was so good to have the itch gone so quickly. I have health problems myself and did not have the energy to go looking for mange nests. I tapered to giving her zinc once/week and that seems to be taking care of it - keeping her immunity up. I do know that if I forget the zinc for too long, I will see the mange creeping back. As soon as I see it coming, I get right back on it.
Thanks so much Ted and others for this fantastic remedy. The key to success is persistance."
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 12/26/2010: Nyckl64 from Jasper, Tx: "I have a 9 yo Belgian Malanois a 5 yo Pitt a 2 yo *kamut* a 1 1/2 yo Pitt and a 2 yo chiapin... The Malanois, 5 yo Pitt n kamut all have what I believe to be the mange.. And wouldn't you know it, our vet we always used died 3 weeks ago.. Breaks my heart, he seems to be the only vet here that's not just in it for the money, as he never charged for office visits, just for what he did or needed to be done... He will be missed.
So today we started the regimen of Teds remedy, within the time of them being bathed and soaked with the *JUICE*... Lol.. All were laying and sleeping and not one scratching, so it evedently helps with the itch, thank you Lord... I know they r misserable, so I will be doing this regularly and I will let you know the results, but for some reason, I have faith in this... *all my girls r fixed, both pitts n kamut, I truly believe in being responsible, I will keep believing this Until They All Have A Home, don't breed, rescue!!! ... East Texas thanks, Penny//aka//Nana//Nyckl"Replies
04/17/2012: Michael from Wooster, Ohio replies: "I have read a few of the posts, and feel that many of the problems could be cured by using Diatomaceous Earth.
I found this site today while looking into solutions for myself and others, but find that it works for our pets too. Even kills bugs of all sorts... Will be getting a large bag. The S/H is more than the product cost.
12/10/2010: Ann from Carrollton, Ms: "I have a dog that has chronic ear mites. Will the borax soultion work as drops in her ears to cure this type mite as well? I have used meds from my vet for several years with no positive results they just keep reoccuring. Thanks for any help."Replies
12/22/2010: Firecentaurr from Foxton, North Island, New Zealand replies: "Sorry, I've tried seeking my own answers about using sodium Tetraborate Pentahydrate instead of 'Sodium Perborate, ' and after googling and reading various information on 'pentrahydrate' I have to admit defeat and come back here to ask you (Ted) or anyone who wouldn't mind answering. Is it okay to use Borax Pentahydrate (sodium Tetraborate pentahydrate)?
When googling the pentahydrate stuff, there were lots of recommendations for use against fleas and killing cockroaches. Surely it could also be use against mange mites?
I've come across this info:
http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/health/ehipm/pdf_fung/fung_actives/Sodium tetraborate pentahydrate.pdf
So reading a small summary about 'Single dose toxicity testing' indicates that sodium tetraborate pentahydrate is moderately toxic to mammals but low in toxicity to birds, bees, fish, and other aquatic organisms.... I dare say my heavy breed dogs should be okay if they're not dip in Borax/Hydrogen peroxide every week for the rest of their lives and that a few weeks of Borax treatment should be okay. I've no clue with compounds as such but could someone please allay my fears about using Sodium Tetraborate Pentahydrate (with hydrogen Peroxide)instead of Sodium Perborate as I'm anxious not poison my dogs and keen to relieves both my dogs from maddening 'mind boggling' itchings.... The dreadful red mange! :/"
05/16/2011: Diana from Boston, Massachusetts, United States replies: "I dont know about the treatment you are referring to.. But for any kind of mite.. Use food grade diotamaceous earth.. Just dust them down with it. Make sure you buy the food grade stuff as they will lick themselves and ingest it. The others are not fit for consumption. I buy mine from amazon.com... They have various sizes to choose from. You can also dust your cats wet food with it to get rid of internal parasites! Hope this helps you :0)"
10/03/2011: Kelly from Catawissa, Mo, Usa replies: "I use this borax/peroxide treament on my less than 5lb pomeranian and have seen her get sick from Frontline but never this. The borax I use in a bath w/ Teds directions once a week and the Diamataceous earth I dust her w/ on the other day to gid of a mite infestation I caught also and for flea prevention at this time. Both are safe. I use the Borax on yself, as I have a low immune system w/ several diseases, thus caught the mites and have my entire body scarred up, bc mosy dermatologists do not believe that humans can catch demodex mange from dogs. Well, after a year and a half and my entire body itching, scarred and infected, I have finally started using this site, plus borax solution, diamateceous earth, and vingar rinses that I leave in plus the drs. Antibiotics and am finally getting better!"
11/29/2011: Nancey from Columbus, Ohio replies: "I have 2 lab's that has sarcoptic mange, and ear mites. I had been treating them for (fleas) and I thought the old dog was just getting old losing hair around her ears. The dogs have full run of the house. I am going to try Ted's remedy on them. BUT I have a yorkie with 5 day old pups and she also has full run of the house. Will this kill my puppies or make them sick??? and one of the labs cannot be put in a cage or room by herself she will go nut's (rescued dog )
And thank you to all on here on how to do the rest of the house."
12/04/2011: Cole from Cali, Colombia replies: "I use olive oil and mix in a little sulfur, yes sulfur. It works and won't harm the pet and hair grows back quite quickly."
10/18/2010: Mindy from Pt Chester, USA: "I've been using Ted's Mange cure and am thrilled with the results. However my dogs are a deep liver color and due to the 1% peroxide they are turning orange (even after 1 or 2 applications). Someone wrote that you can substitute vinegar in place of the peroxide. Is the vinegar used straight or is it diluted?
Thank you, Mindy"
11/13/2010: Aj from Grants, Nm/us replies: "You said "do not wash", what about the rotten smell that comes with the infection"
11/14/2010: Guin from Cleveland, Texas replies: "What is the mixture of sodium perborate to water, as I found that all color bleach has it in it. It is made by everyday living, and has sodium carbonate, inorganic salts, sodium perborate or sodium percarbonate, enzymes, fragrance, fabric brightening agent, and colorant. Is there anything in this that is harmful??"
11/17/2010: Eve K from Houston, Tx replies: ""Mange" refers to two different types of mite infestation. It is important to know which type you are dealing with. Other skin conditions can also mimic mange. Get a scraping done at the vet to know which type of mange you are dealing with (if it is in fact mange). The vet will probably offer you two conventional treatment options; or you can proceed with a natural treatment. DEMODECTIC mange aka "red" mange (demodex mites):
1. Is NOT contagious--you do NOT need to "disinfect" your entire home or treat multiple pets (unless they are truly also suffering from it) or yourself.
2. Is a genetically inherited immune deficiency. Some dogs will only have outbreaks (flare ups) at certain times (coming into heat, for example). Dogs with demodectic mange should NOT BE BRED. This is a heritable immune defect. If your dog has demodectic mange, their parents and littermates had it too. All dogs have a few demodex mites but their immune system keeps the population under control. It is when there is a defect in the immune system that an overgrowth occurs and mange symptoms arise. I am posting this because there is a great deal of misunderstanding in the posts I have read. Sarcoptic mange (scabies) is another situation altogether. It is contagious and requires different treatment. Your vet will tell you which type you are dealing with."
12/19/2010: Stephanie from Spring, Texas replies: "I keep hearing this but I also hear others say it has nothing to do with the breeder. The breeder we bought both of our white german shepherd dogs from here in Dickinson, Texas. We have 2 of the 5 from the litter. We have the only female. About 2 months ago they went into heat, well he did forst, and he began to break out. We took him to the vet and the vet said it was a breeder issue. She claimed to know nothing about Demodex and said she had never had an issue with the puppies however others tell us it is definitely a breeder issue. How do you know and if it is an immune problem, we have since had them fixed, will it continue to get worse? He is worse, we have removed gluten form their diet and bedding, the water bottles they are chewing on etc. The only thing left is to give them bottled water! She claims nobody but us has complained so I am worried it may be us but one is also better than the other. The bigger one, a boy, is ten time worse than the female. Trying to find a vet familiar with german sheperds is really hard."
02/07/2011: Bgthomas from Houston, Tx replies: "To Stephanie of Spring, TX, demodex mange on 2 gsp dogs, litter mates, male and female. I have been told it is not cureable, but managable. Both of the dogs I own came from very reputable breeder/handler. It is a inmune system problem, been treating them with ivomec, imune powder and diet."
02/11/2011: Kate from Hanceville, Al replies: "I followed this regimen exactly for 5 weeks. Although my dog looked much better and started to regrow hair, her skin scrapings at the vet 2 days after a treatment revealed numerous demodex mites. I am returning to traditional treatment with possible use of the borax solution additionally."
03/18/2011: Jeff from Tampa, Florida replies: "I have used this treatment on my 60 pound dog with some success. I have not used it as often as I should because of a side effect that I have not seen mentioned in this blog. First, I wash the dog, then immediated soak her in the solution. Two minutes later she starts getting very nervous and starts shaking nervously. For about 15 to 20 minutes she is a nervous wreck. She gets so hyped up that she has scaled a 6 feet stockade fence around my backyard, which see never does otherwise. A few times she has vomited during that time period. She finally calms down. I would love to know if anyone has had the same experience. If Ted has an explaination I would be grateful. The solution helps her, but I don't have the heart to put her through that very often, so she still suffers with the mites."
03/26/2011: Mybuddy from Colden, Ny replies: "I had found Ted's solution over a year ago and successfully treated my dog's demodectic mange. His fur was falling out in clumps, his skin was red and turning black, he was constantly itching or licking and smelled funky. I spent a small fortune in prescription food, prescription shampoos, cortisone shots and mange treatments - the vet believed that it was allergies and not mange. I bathed my dog with an Oatmeal based shampoo, then applied the solution and let him dry per the instructions on this site. I did this every couple of days for two weeks, then weekly for a couple of weeks and then every month after that. I also have been giving him a multi-vitamin along with Brewer's Yeast/Garlic tablets. His skin had turned back to a healthy pink and his fur is thick and soft. Additional things I learned:
Cortisone will make the mange worse.
The mange tends to be worse during winter and generally in those dogs that may be immune challenged. (My dog did not require the treatments during the summer, but I saw a change once Fall started and resumed the monthly treatment.)
Dogs will throw up if they have consumed the solution, as the peroxide makes them vomit.
My dog wants to immediately roll on the ground to get the solution off of him - I keep him on the leash outside to go to the bathroom after the bath, then put him on his bed to dry.
My dog did not have food allergies - I have had him on the same food that the vet took him off of and he is fine.
Last note, at my dog's yearly vet visit, the vet could not believe how beautiful his coat was and had never seem him so healthy. I explained what I was doing with the treatment, but I think he doubted the mange and solution effectiveness. Either way, my dog's skin and coat have never been better and there are no harsh chemicals involved! Thank you Ted!"
04/02/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Ma, USA replies: "All you folks are very lucky people, I have a mangy cat that is hard to tangle with, I try to be gentle because her immune system is way down and she's only a wee thin kitten, but she wants to fight for her life either way. Try picturing a kitten getting a bath (chuckles) Thanks every one for this great site ;o)"
04/16/2011: Totos.tribe from Victoria, Bc, Canada replies: "Hi There: I have a question for Ted regarding his "mange cure"
I have been treating a mixed breed spayed female. She has had demodicosis since birth. I "cured" her once using traditional vet treatments of Amitraz etc. Then the mange reoccurred. So I tried your "mange cure". It immediately started to work. Her skin started looking pink and healthy, her hair has grown back almost everywhere except for her hind quarters. However, after six weeks, the dog is developing a problem around the base of her tail and she is once again biting at herself and the skin is becoming infected and obviously has mange.
My question; I am currently in Mexico and the only source of Borax purchase is in the local hardware store. It is packaged by them and the word Borax is written on the package. Is there a way I can test it or tell if it is really Borax? The first time I purchased the powder would dissolve and then leave some crystals in the bottom of the pail. This time, it is in a different package (new shipment) and when I mixed the Borax into the hydrogen peroxide/water solution it formed a hard salt like crystal on the bottom. So I'm not sure I've actually got real Borax and am looking for a simple way to test it or tell if it is real Borax. It is the only source of Borax I have been able to find here.
Your cure worked so well, that my vet now wants me to do applications on his other clients who have the same issue. I would like to know that I'm using the right product.
Also, my girl was doing so well. Can you give me any advice as to what is happening around the base of her tail? I am returning to Canada soon and would like to take her home with me. But I will not be able to if she does not heal. I am going to put the "cone" back on her today so that she cannot bit herself and continue to treat her. Looking for any advice you can give.
Many thanks, Osa the dog's person"
05/15/2011: Concerned Mommy from St.louis, Mo replies: "will adding borax to my dogs drinking water kill them? has mange bad and we are treating her accordingly. Her ears seems to be the big issue. Another issue is do I need to treat my carpet and furniture and places where she sleeps?"Replies
12/12/2011: Jennifer from Denville, New Jersey replies: "If you feed your cat or dog pet food, they have a weak immune system. It's like humans eating pretzels 3 meals a day for 365 days a year. Raw meat is the only thing that a carnivore can live and thrive on. It's why dogs pant; they are dehydrated from pet food. Raw meat provides all the juices, water, nutrition they need to live 25-30 years old."
12/14/2011: Jessicadlg from San Benito, Texas replies: "So in short form what are the ingredients and measurements of the remedy?"
01/06/2012: Laurie from Charles Town, Wv replies: "Someone asked quite a long time ago whether the cider vinegar was to be used full strength or diluted (when substituting it for the peroxide), but there was never an answer to that question. Does anyone (including Ted) have an answer? I prefer to use cider vinegar rather than peroxide. Thanks in advance if anyone can help!"
[YEA] 02/09/2012: Dee from Manchester, Nh replies: "About a year ago, I started noticing some hair loss on my dog and then the skin where the hair loss was turned black. After several trips to various vets and numerous skin scrapes, no mites were detected. A course of antibiotics were prescribed, various medicated shampoos were prescribed, nothing was helping. I had completed the food elimination diet twice, nothing changed the skin problem.
Six months ago, the skin got incredibly worse. A friend suggested a specific treatment, and it actually helped a lot. The fur grew back, most of the itching stopped, and the skin color changed to healthy pink/white again. About three months ago, that all changed and my dog lost the majority of fur on her legs and torso. The itching was crazy. I started the previous treatment right away, as the fur loss and skin color change literally all took place in a couple of days. The previous treatment was not working.
Then, I noticed some hair loss on her face, I knew right then, no matter what skin scrapes said it was demodex. I immediately used the Goodwinol ointment on her face. Even that didn't help. The demodex was not localized but generalized so I knew extreme measures had to be taken. I do not like using ivermectin for Demodex as even though it can boost the immune system it is a temporary solution to an ongoing problem.
I purchased the Borax/peroxide and made the solution. I added coconut oil and ester C to the dog's diet to boost the immune system. Literally, the very next day, I saw fuzz coming in on the affected areas. The skin wasn't angry red and where it was black it was going lighter in color. I have administered the bath 4 times in the past week, as this case is the most severe I have seen. Each day I have seen marked improvement in the skin and fur growth, as well as decrease in the itching. Amazingly enough, the skin has not dried out, which could be a direct result of the coconut oil added to the diet. Once we have the issue under control I will have the dog spayed as we are well aware that the heat cycle instigates the rapid production of demodex mites. We may always have issues with the mites with this dog, but at least we know how to manage the condition and can work on boosting her immune system.
I am very grateful to have found this treatment, and wished that I had used it six months ago. Thank you!"
02/16/2012: Lynn from Pearlington, Ms replies: "Which also works great for mange, ear mites, fleas, etc... Is Cedarcide"
03/17/2012: Linda from La Cruz De Huanacaxtle, Nayarit, Mx replies: "Ted, What would be the recipe using DMSO? I have Borax, H202, ACV, and some DMSO. Would using the DMSO be the most effective choice?"
[YEA] 03/25/2012: Jen from Phoenix, Az replies: "I have a pit bull mix with extreme anxiety which causes her immune system to be compromised. Lately she has been suffering with mange/mites. The vet mess weren't helping so I went searching for something else. I found Ted's remedy and although the directions for mixing were a bit confusing, I figured it out. I am amazed at the quick results. I wish I could post our before and after pictures just 4days after the first dip! The mixture I used was 2 cups 3% hydrogen peroxide, 4cups hot water and as much Borax as would dissolve in the water/peroxide mixture. Once it began settling on the bottom, I stopped adding the Borax. I used a hair color bottled to soak the worst areas and then just poured the rest over her. I'm so thankful I found this post. She hasn't had any side affects and the hot spots are gone, the skin is pink rather beet red, and hair is growing back. Thank you so much!"
04/07/2012: Sammi from Bixby, Oklahoma replies: "@Jen from Phoenix. Could you possibly send me some pics of your dog's Mange? We have a blue pitbull that started with a spot on her head that seems to itch & cause her pain. Over a few weeks a spot the size of a dime showed up on both her front & back leg. After taking her to the vet today I feel like we got no where. She did a skin scraping but saw nothing. She recommend using a neosporin/benadryl mixture & said it's probably allergies but could be mange. I'm just very worried about her & want to be sure we are getting her the best treatment we can. Thanks so much! My email address is sammibyrne [at}yahoo (dot) com."
04/19/2012: Travis from Phoenix, Arizona replies: "I have found that you can find the hydrogen peroxide at dollar stores, and ty to ted for this wonderful solution."
04/25/2012: David11g35 from Los Angeles, California replies: "How often do you give the dog a bath in the borax/peroxide solution?"
04/27/2012: Jo from Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India replies: "Hey Ted, Thanks for the borax treatment. My dog had severe mange and got him every possible treatment. doctors told that the infection was coz of food allergy. Doctors also told us that he will not survive if the infection continues for long because of less resistency.
I have seen this treatment and applied the borax solution every alternate day and was amazed with the results. Now he is a healthy dog without any mange... and recently taken him to the doctor for his vaccination (anti-rabis) was shocked looking at him with his healthy and shiny hair.
Wud seriously recommend this treatment to every dog, cat with mange. Thank you ted!"
04/27/2012: Luvmybostons from Perris, Ca. replies: "My 5 month old female boston terrier has mange with a secondary skin infection. She has these pimple like bumps all over he body and face. When she scratches they burst and pus and blood comes out. Can I still use this solution on her? or should I get the infection under control and then go through with the solution? She has already had a series of ivermectin shots with no success. Now I am looking at an additional 700 dollar vet bill if I want to go through with the vets recomendation of more meds and intibiotic. PLEASE HELP!!"
05/31/2012: Bellasgram2 from Raleigh, N.carolina, Usa replies: "I have a 5 & 1/2 month old lab/great dane mix. I got her when she was about 12 weeks old, she was very undernourished at that time. About a month ago I noticed she had a few pimple like sores on the back of her legs (no fleas). These pimples started to spread quite rapidly. The vet gave her antibiotics thinking it was 'pustules' that, I was told, puppies sometimes get. I also changed her food to a natural food, no corn or other stuff she might be allergic to. 2 weeks later & the pimples/sores are all over her body now & very, very itchy & some hair loss & thinning hair all over her body.
I ran across this web site last night while searching for a home remedy for mange. I got to thinking it could quite possibly be mange after doing some research on- line & the fact that her immune system might not be what it should be due to her malnutrition early in life(shes a good weight now). I read many posts on different sites of how people have spent hundreds of dollars at their vet & their dogs were no better off.
After reading all the positive feedback from people using Ted's remedy I decicded that this just might do the trick so first thing this morning I ran out to get the ingredients, bathed my dog as it said & poured the 'borax solution' all over her body, massaging it to the skin. I also put some in a small spray bottle to get areas I might have missed. Than I went around & disinfected all areas that she has access to & her crate & blanket. Collar & harness too got a soaking in the solution & hung out to dry. I'm not going to say that its working already but she is (as I type this)sleeping peacefully in the chair. I'll know for sure tonite for thats a high itching time! I also gave her a fish oil capsule & plan to give her one a day. If this works it will be a miracle for me & I'll be sure & keep the ingredients on hand in case we need it in the future. I will post again & let everyone know how its going."
07/22/2012: Jade from Orlando, Florida replies: "Thank you for this remedy. I will try it as my pom has sores & I have cut all his fur off to treat better. Hydrocortizone cream seems to help him not itch but I need something I trust to be safe to rulle out and/or treat for mange. These sores are big. I nned to treat the cause. Our lake at our apartments in the city is infested with fleas from a "dog friendly apartment complex". It could be infested with mange as all the dogs walk the same path around the lake & there are unhealthy outdoor cats that seem ferrel. You would think "dog friendly" would mean people treat thier dog's bug problems quickly as they hurt the dogs. I posted that Borax is in the laundry detergent isle so people can find it. :("
07/30/2012: Carmen from Tulsa, Ok replies: "I have a Keeshond that I am so embarrassed that I didn't see this was a problem until now. We have moved to apts that have a "doggie" area and I think that is where he has picked it up. He is mostly an inside dog. But I was already deciding I needed to do more about his diet, reading this has given me some new ideas about that. I just gave him frontline. I had just bathed him, not sure if it is mange or not. I know he needs the Frontline, but now that I have found this, would I need to wait the 30 days? Will this take away the effectiveness of the Frontline? I hate to wait very long as he is so miserable. I am trying to get him all turned around, I feel so bad for him."
05/21/2013: Om from Hope, B.c., Canada replies: "I would just like to add to all of these posts that many remedies obtained from pharmaceutical sources are very dangerous to say the least.
Ivermectin is cancer causing according to a homeopathic vet who wrote about dog/cat treatment. ANTIBIOTICS are a sledge hammer method that reduce the immune system and many animals never regain their proper state of health again. This is also my experience. Vaccinations reduce life span and do irreparable damage. I have heard of cats not only contracting the disease vaccinated for but also had personality changes, etc. afterwards. Blood must be kept clean, not poisoned. I think antibiotics are largely responsible for Candida outbreaks. A vet told me years ago that cortisone reduces ones life span. Not to speak about side effects. It boils down to the fact that recovery is unrealistic when the body gets exposed to these. These days the above treatments are becoming common usage as vets only know about pharmaceuticals which they are supposed to use.
Use your common sense in all these issues. The resonable priced items such as h202 and borax may be more difficult to obtain in the near future so a supply of these should be kept on hand. In reviewing the misleading and blatantly false statements on some of these such as borax and h202 one may understand the real reason behind it and it is commerce. Again, ask yourself why?? God has given us our immune system. Now why slam it down with dangerous drugs? It is totally contrary to common sense. Healing is an art. Each individual needs to find out what works and find out what else can be done before the bodily system gets damaged beyond recovery. Health has become a business so let the buyer beware.
I am so grateful I found this site as in all the years of rescue I lost a lot of animals I could have saved , and it set me on the right track. Read up on Chinese and Ayurvedic remedies just to see what healing is all about.
The good news is in the NEAR future the world will have an entirely new system for health and healing affordable for all. Meanwhile just like myself, I am amazed how far I have come in understanding the principle of regaining health. It is not about "managing" but about curing, healing.
Peace to all wonderful posters and their critters and a big thank you for all EC staff. Om"
10/10/2010: Kevin from Hurleyville, Ny: "First off Ted, thank you so much for this amazing, simple, non toxic and cheap remedy! I've spent so much $ that I couldn't afford to bring Sparky to vets who don't have a clue... My questions are, when you say that the mites might have a hive, did you mean on the animal or in her bedding? we have rugs all around the house which I've dusted with diotomaceous earth twice in the past 2 months as I've been giving her the borax baths. But I can try spraying the borax/peroxide mixture on the rugs too.
Secondly, she is chewing her paw fiercly, it is one of the last places which has not abated in any way. Is it safe and painless to dip the raw, sometimes bloody paw in a cup with the borax peroxide mix?
Sparky HATES getting wet. I douse her with the sponge all over with the mixture, but then she races into the bushes or on the grass and rolls and rubs herself. Is this ok?
It's starting to get cold here in NY, so I'm not going to be able to wash her outside. It would be sheer torture to force her into the bathtub. Any ideas for winter treatment? She'll try to rub herself off on the rugs or the couch! Thanks again so much! "
10/07/2010: Melissa from Pahoa, Hawaii: "Hi, I have a pup who's about a year old and has been suffering with mange for almost two months. I finally took him to a vet and he was diagnosed as having demodex mange. I started using Ted's remedy about 3 weeks ago except I substituted apple cider vinegar for the peroxide. I sprayed this solution on him in the morning on the affected areas and then massaged neem oil into his skin at night. The vet also gave me antibiotics for him because he had developed secondary skin infections. For a little while (a week or more) his skin dramatically improved and so I stopped spraying him everyday and did it more like every other day and stopped with the neem. Unfortunately, I am noticing that the areas once clear are now developing red bumps again. So, back to everyday spraying and using neem.
My question is, does anyone have a sense of how long it takes for mange to clear up? And, also, how often should I be treating my pup for it to be most effective? Thanks! This is such a frustrating experience! "Replies
10/25/2010: Soca from Acushnet, Ma replies: "Hi, Does anyone know it Ted's recipe is safe for a dog with slight kidney problems? Thanks! "
[QUESTION] 10/05/2010: Lucy from Oshkosh, Wi: "I'm eager to try this out; however, I have an Alaskan Malamute and she only has a small patch (localized) bit of demodex. My question is, do I have to bathe her full body every time I do this treatment (she has LOTS of fur, and I fear her getting a secondary infection from moisture left unattended)?
Could I just apply the mixture directly to the area without bathing her first?
Or, could I just bathe the area and then apply the mixture?
THANKS, in advance."
[QUESTION] 10/02/2010: Reg from Hardy, Va: "Hello, I'm unclear about the use of sodium perborate. Do I still use the 1% peroxide solution or just dissolve sodium perborate in water untill the solution is saturated? I have read that Oxiclean nonclorine bleach contains sodium perborate. Can I just use this by itself? Also when it comes to treating the outside possibly infected areas can I just spread the sodium perborate around suspected areas or must it be in solution form whether I'm using Boraxo or Oxiclean? One final thing, I found a shampoo called Lice R Gone that contains sodium borate. I don't know what the concentration is of sodium borate is but what is the approx concentration requried to be effective?
[QUESTION] 09/24/2010: Ambercatz from Cornwall, Uk: "just need to check-i can buy sodium perborate online. do i just use this on its own? does it work the same as a mix of borax and peroxide? sorry, i am just finding this a little confusing. thank you"
EC: Hi Amerbcatz,
Best to try and locate borax (also known as sodium borate, sodium tetraborate, or disodium tetraborate)... Please see the Where to Buy: UK section on our borax page for more information about locating it in the UK as it's become a bit tricky to find since they removed it from stores a couple of years ago. Borax must be mixed with hydrogen peroxide, per Ted's instructions.