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Ted's Dog Mange Cure (Most Popular)
DO NOT CONFUSE BORAX WITH BORIC ACID!
DO NOT USE BORIC ACID IN PLACE OF BORAX!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes, "The best cure for dog mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me."
More Exact Measurements (excerpted from various emails on our Reader Question & Answer Section)
Ted replies, "A definitive recipe is add 1-2 tablespoon of borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. To make a 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1%, roughly get one part of 3% H2O2 plus two parts of water. Then apply them on the dog. Wash with this solution daily, no rinsing. If it doesn't go away, I have found mites, or mange to have a large "beehive" hidden somewhere. In which case, quarantine the dog in a small area that is 100% sterile."
"Approximate measurements are 1 bottle of 500 of 3% H2O2, plus 1000 of the cc of water, plus heaping 3 tablespoons of borax. Stir until most of borax is dissolved. The borax is past the point of saturation here so you will see some borax around. Technically the concentration is around 1.5% H2O2, and this is a bit stronger because by the time we finish with it, the H2O2 gets reacted with other things, and by the time we used it is is usually ends up near a 1% solution anyway."
"You need to get put as much borax until it no longer dissolves in a pail of water and forms a precipitate. This is a saturated solution of borax. Add H2O2 to about 1% concentration to a pail of water. Soak the entire dog, several times. Keep the dog wet for some time. The borax will destroy the eggs from laying under the skin which causes the mange. Get some solution and spray or use this to wipe all floors so the dog will not get re infected. Repeat this every week when bathing. This is not a perfect cure, but it my dog now no longer have mange. My dog was completely cured. You can try other chemicals such as sodium perborate, which is more convenient since you don't need to add the hydrogen peroxide."
"The solution (borax or preferably sodium perborate) is to be applied AFTER the shampooing and rinsing. The sodium perborate should remain on the dog after the bath. You will not rinse this at all. It must remain on the dog throughout the day so that it will act continuously on the bugs."
"However, I do recommend a less toxic form of borax, which is sodium perborate if you can find one. The secret is that borax (plus hydrogen peroxide) will work better then most other remedies I have tried, this includes mineral oil, neem oil (no, neem oil does not kill the mange as effectively as sodium perborate) I have tried it. In my "mange colonies" and commercial brands to kill insects don't work. Hydrogen peroxide DOES NOT KILL mange, I USED IT SIMPLY USED IT AS A CATALYST for ordinary borax in case you cannot obtain sodium perborate. Mineral oils simply prevent oxygen from reaching mange, but that didn't stop it. I have tried naphta, bentonite clays, DMSO, potassium permanganate, light fluid, etc. They all worked temporarily, and it just came back. I must make a strong statement that the formula (borax+h2o2 or sodium perborate) works bests and it is broad spectrum. You can use it to control mange, mites, fleas, and lyme disease (initiated by those crawly insects). I have actually compared side to side with neem oil, mineral oil, apple cider vinegar and others here in Bangkok and this is the most wide spectrum cure I have found. Borax prevents denaturation of DNA/RNA in dogs and I currently use this as life extension for dogs. For example a ribose sugar, deoxyribose sugar, and various sugar that causes accelerated aging in dogs can be slowed down with supplementation of dogs indirectly when you do the borax wash. "
"Prepare peroxide 1% solution, add 2-3 tablespoon of borax to that cup. Stir and wait for a couple of minutes for the borax to dissolve. The formula doesn't require an exact science. The importance is to add enough borax until the solution is no longer soluble and well past saturation."
"...The reason why it is not working is YOU CANNOT RINSE THE DOG OF borax and peroxide solution with any shampoo or water. After bathing the dog, keep the dog that way, no drying no rinsing. This is why the dog has not improved. Also BORAX is added DIRECTLY to the 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and no water is added separately, otherwise the solution is too weak."
7/12/2006: "I have reviewed all the dog's mange treatments both by my own tests and by many contributors. It appears that many people have trouble obtaining materials, such as sodium perborate hydrate, so I revised the remedy to hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution applied only once or so every week. The solution of sodium perborate hydrate is very much similar when borax and hydrogen peroxide is added. Some have either substituted hydrogen peroxide with benzoyl peroxide.
The problem about benzoyl peroxide is the upper limit by which you can use it without effect the dog as it is somewhat more toxic if given beyond a 10% concentration. 5% is usually a safe concentration. Benzoyl peroxide because of its toxicity is somewhat of an insecticide, while hydrogen peroxide is not, what it is in the original formulation is that it is a penetrant allowing the borax to go through the skin. Now some did not like hydrogen peroxide due to its limited supplies, so they make use of apple cider vinegar. For me a regular vinegar will do. Both a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide has two similarities. It is both a penetrant and when added with a safe insecticidal material such as borax, which has an toxicity on LD 50 equivalent to that of salt, this is the preferred method. However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax.
Boric acid is not recommended for use as it is much more toxic than borax. Borax's toxicity is about 3000 mg/kg, which is the equivalent toxicity to about that of salt. (check wikipedia). The idea is to make a solution of borax so that the solution can cover the entire body and penetrate through the skin of the dog to kill the demodex mites, for example. To use a spot treatment by pure powder will take an infinitely long time as it does not get to it through the dog's skin.
In some cases, people have tried neem oil, mineral oil. Both of these have similar effectiveness, but in different ways. Neem oil prevents the Demodex fleas from laying eggs by modifying their hormones, while mineral oils are moderately toxic only to the demodex eggs, not necessarily killing them. However, both are very limited based on my tests in really killing the insect. You see borax will both kill the eggs, modifying the hormones and their eggs by drying them all at once. The weakness of borax is limited solubility and limited penetration of the skin which you need either vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (toxic), MSM or DMSO solution. Ideally 10% DMSO should be preferred.
Pine Sol has limited insecticidal effectiveness, being a contact insecticidal, and does not provide lasting killing power once it has evaporated and does not kill living fleas, but it does kill their eggs somewhat. Only a fairly concentrated solution works and it does not prevent re-laying of stray eggs by the dog. In other words, the use of neem oil, mineral oil, benzoyl peroxide, and vaseline will not prevent the recurring of mange since eggs are not just on the dog, but can be anywhere in the house. Therefore re-infection is at issue. The one magic that borax has over its neighbors is that the borax powder that the dogs leaves in the house will kill the eggs even after the dogs no longer has mange and re-infection is therefore next to impossible. However, borax has limited effect on killing the larger mites and fleas, but not mange.
I found that adding 1/8 teaspoon per liter of water of borax added to the dog's water will cause the larger fleas to dry up and die at the same time. My dog for some reason likes to eat something like more than 1 gram of the sodium perborate crystals whenever he feels sick and the fleas just die off. The borax modifies the dog's blood and kills the mange inside out. This is why borax, i.e., sodium perborate, is required for mange, but not anything else due to preventive re-infection of the mange by the powder of the borax that destroys the eggs where the dog sleeps and where it walks around throughout the house.
VASELINE: The problem about using vaseline as an insecticide is that it has limited killing of eggs, but its weakness is that it is not a penetrant, and therefore the frequency of applications will take at least once every other day. Additionally, the hair of the dog will prevent proper application.
Some have went so far as to not use a solution of borax with hydrogen peroxide as a rinse then followed likely, perhaps a borax powder after bath. On the argument of being effective only as a spot treatment. Since dogs do not have sweat glands, not using a rinse will prevent the borax from absorbing into the skin to kill the mange under its skin. So this is not going to work. You need both borax as an insecticide, the water as the solution which to spread it to the skin surface, and a reliable penetrant to get it through the skin, such as vinegar, msm, DMSO, or even hydrogen peroxide. A benzoyl peroxide is both a penetrant and insecticide, but at higher concentration is somewhat toxic for dogs and as a result you are pretty much limited by the maximum concentration not to exceed beyond 5% being a preferred safety. I would prefer to limit myself at 3%.
I therefore suggest, not to get you lost in the woods, is that whatever formulation you use, always stick with borax and borax derivatives, such as sodium perborate monohydrate being the main insecticidal chemicals for the dog.
Pyrethrum is o.k. but in very low concentration of about 0.1% - 0.2% to prevent skin irritation for the dogs near the skin infection areas. The second mix you need is always the penetrant and the third formulation is appropriate dilutions in water. To provide lasting killing effect, non of these chemicals should generally be non-volatile insecticidal mixtures, which unfortunately most recommended are, with exception of perhaps borax and bentonite. Bentonite causes eggs to dry, so they can be used also, but they have no insecticidal mixture as borax and borax can performs both killing the insect, modifying the hormones to prevent egg laying, becomes a stomach poison for the insect, and at the same time causes their eggs to dry up.
I therefore will remain very flexible about what penetrants you use including hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (limited concentration), and vinegar. It must be noted that when formulating any mange it must be noted that they must be non-volatile and the chemicals should cause microscopic residues around the house so that re infection of mange is prevented, including mites and fleas.
I think this wraps up the basic theory and application of mange treatment, and hopefully other people will make a more effective formulations in the future at least equal or better than the original formula I have proposed. Just want to tell you that there are many ways you can treat mange, but the issue is one of toxicity, re infection, toxic levels, which portion kills it and how, and which is the penetrant which is the key to it all. Penetrant is important, the chemical must reach the target demodex under the skin. Usually hydrogen peroxide, vinegar, DMSO, and MSM will do that. It must be reminded again that borax, to work most effectively, is to prepare a solution without washing it off, followed by a small amount of borax powder to be applied if you wish. Any other application other than this such as using as purely powder form is NOT going to work.
03/11/2012: Jan from Austin, Tx: "This recipe of mixing the borax saturated water with peroxide worked great on my English bulldog, Dooley. I have three bulldogs and unfortunately am familiar with most canine problems. Decided to try this formula on Dooley before going to the vet. It worked great! I could see results after one application. I bathed Dooley making sure to take the flattened somewhat moist scabs off his back. I have a feeling that Dooley's mange was staph related, from my past experiences... But, regardless of what it was... It is gone now. I have completed three applications now... After the first application, the scabs never came back, and the hair began to grow back. Thanks for the great tip! Hope others also try this and have the success that Dooley had!"
01/06/2012: Kimigirl from Makati City, Philippines: "Hi Ted! I've done your mange cure on my 1 yr old Chow Chow since nothing worked regarding vet treatments. I mentioned your cure to the vet and said since we've tried everything else, it wouldn't hurt. I followed your instructions to the letter. He didn't mind the dip at all and I think he rather enjoyed it.
What I noticed though was that after he dries, the red bumps seem to get aggravated. They're redder than normal and he's scratching. Although the next day, the red bumps dry up and flake off but he's still scratching. We're on the 4th day of treatment and was wondering if this is a normal reaction and would go away as the mites go? Or should I be adding something else to make the solution more potent to the mites? Do I just continue with the treatment? It looks like the mites try to fight back. Will Cold Pressed Virgin Coconut Oil help his itching?
Thank you in advance.
01/11/2012: Kimigirl from Makati City, Philippines replies: "I've been doing Ted's treatment on Roscoe everyday for a week now (Ted mentioned that it should be done daily). The redness has gone but he scratches like there's no tomorrow! He wears his e-collar 24/7 since I took it off for 10 minutes to clean and when I was putting it back on him I saw that he was licking his hind legs and has made 3 hot spots. His skin became really dry and I decided to soak him in Virgin Coconut Oil which helped with the itching BUT the red spots came back!!!
Please, can someone help me? He's suffering so much. Do I continue?"
01/21/2012: Jaki from Fremantle, Western Australia replies: "Ted's remedy is to be done weekly, NOT daily. You are overdoing it!"
01/25/2012: Kimigirl from Makati City, Philippines replies: "I am following Teds instructions. It actually worked better everyday, as stated below. I give Roscoe the HP Borax dip 2 days then VCO the next day for 3 weeks. No more black skin, bald spots and red bumps. For the "nest sites" I just spray the HP Borax on the area and it's drying up well and VCO to get rid of the skin flakes. Also the raw diet for his dinner really made a big difference.
[YEA] 02/17/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "It's not working because the remedy I now required is applied everyday, plus no rinsing as the key. A rinsing would have washed off the borax. A solution should be long enough to take effect. Perhaps putting them in bathtub and reapply during bath for about 15 minutes will be more effective, before leaving the dog without rinsing. Because a saturated borax is used, it is likely very little of borax remains on the dog. So should the dog licks, it should not have induce the vomiting. The amount of both the hydrogen peroxide and borax dose is too low to have any effect. Therefore, either borax flakes too large or hydrogen peroxide in large amount was somewhow ingested during the bathing. Henceforth an easy way to get around this problem is to put muzzle on the dog DURING and AFTER bathing for a couple of hours (say 4-5 hours) before rinsing them a way, thus leaving no trace of anything to cause vomiting for the dog."
[YEA] 09/24/2012: Carolynn from Flint, Mi replies: "I have got to tell you.. My pup had a type of mange or redness for years and I tried a lot of things to cure it, plus his ears started leaking and smelling. I can't even tell you disturbed I was to go to the vet and have it not cured and be forced to go back ad pay again and it would not be cured. I used frontline, flea shampoo and on and still his coat and skin were scabbing and itchy. He is a golden retriever mx, like Duke on the baked beans ad only blonde.
I tried Ted's Remedy and I have to tell you.. The relief for my pup was immediate.. IMMEDIATE. He began playing again and looked at me like he was sooo grateful to not itch. I use it qute often now and it kills fleas as well and HIS FUR HAS GROWN BACK AND HIS PRETTY TAIL IS ALMOST FULL AGAIN... One month and a little more. I am very grateful. His ears are cleaning up too so the 'bug' or whatever it was must have been the problem there. He is like a puppy again and wants to play. Thank you... Thank you... from me and Duke...."
[YEA] 09/12/2011: Harold from San Diego, Ca: "I'm so glad I found this site! I adopted a 3 Yr. Female EBD that had health issues, original owners basically left her in a backyard by herself most of her life. When I began to care for her, she wasn't very active and had a very bad skin condition which I later realized was mange. Long story short, I ran into this site and used Ted's guidelines. I'm 3 weeks into the treatment and couldn't be more thrilled! I now have a very active EBD and the mange is slowly going away, her coat is looking better daily thanks to Ted's solution! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Xoxo Juels"
09/08/2011: Theresa1989stan1990 from Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada: "Theresa1989Stan1990 [Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada] = My boyfriend and I have tried every solution in the books (vets -tooooo expesive- , Lemon juice, epson salts... Etc.. ), shes a Austrailian Shepard, Huskey, Collie (rough), Begal mix, only a year old. The previous owner stopped her treatment only a month in and thought she was better (now we know its demodex generalized) and then she gave her to us, and well she got reinfected again and it happened within a span of a week to have loss of hair, red bumps on her belly, little leisions on the back of her neck & head, ears legs and chest and a huge lesion on her neck.
Well, we had a friend who has a family member as a vet and she said that the borax solution works. And well this is day 2 for us the smell has died down, the skin is starting to look better, fur is slightly discoloured and she is probably tramatized by how many times previously with other solutions only because her cuts reopen everytime. Which we are still having the issue.
We have a cone that prevents her from licking herself due to how weak she is at this point we dont want to risk having her digesting it, but the cone is the main reason why the cuts on her neck keep opening again because before we apply the solution, we need to take it off but the cuts are already crusted over the cone, even after the night before we waited for her to dry for hours than put the cone back on. We need to know if its safe to say she can lick herself after the borax solution is done drying, because she likes to lick her paws, and to clean herself, she is a constant licker... We dont know what to do when the cone is opening the cuts over and over again. And our main concern is that, can she get really sick even more with the borax/h202 just by licking herself like a cat(since she grew up with cats)?
What were other peoples techniques to prevent them from licking? (if they did)"
07/11/2013: Sharon from Wesley Chapel, Fl replies: "First, have you thought to treat the cone before you put it back on?? It could be infested. Why do you need a cone? Dog saliva helps the spots. If you read the other posts here, no one uses a cone, because the amount of ingested mix does not cause any problems. My suggestion would be to take a little time and reread all the posts. Cheers."
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 09/05/2011: Middlebunny from Jersey City, New Jersey, Usa: "I'm curious. My black cocker spaniel periodically breaks out in a rash. We thought it was an allergic reaction to the dog park but after reading these posts it seems like it might be mange or mites. His latest bout appears to be his worst so far. His vet previously rx'd a topical cleanser as well as Gentamicin Sulfacte Topical Spray. This seems to work; however, I decided that it might be more efficient to try Ted's mange cure to see if that helped.
I didn't bath the dog in Ted's solution as he'd just gotten his hair done at the salon (who called and notified us of the rashes on his stomach which they thought were indicative of an allergy or staph infection). Instead, I mixed 150ml of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution with 300ml of distilled water then I mixed in 1 tablespoon of the borax (laundry cleaner). I put this all in a 500ml bottle and shook it until the borax had either mixed in or formed a solid mass that settled at the bottom of the bottle (I assumed the settlement was the portion that couldn't be dissolved). I then put the liquid in a spray bottle and sprayed the areas of his tummy which had the rash. I also sprayed some on his back and tried to push it through his hair without messing up his cute cocker spaniel hair cut. While the instructions recommend bathing in the solution once a week, I've sprayed the tummy area several times since the initial application as I thought that would be close to simulating a full body bath for the effected body parts. I've now begun to notice that my dog's black hair has been lightened as though the 1% hydrogen peroxide is having a bleaching effect. Is this typical? Is it because I've sprayed the solution on my dog more than once?
Although the rashes appear to be drying out, I don't want to keep spraying my dog with the solution because of the hair lightening effect. Despite this, I do still want to continue to promote the healing process. In between weekly applications of the borax/h2o2 solution, can I resume using the Gentamicin Sulfate spray or will this decrease the effectiveness of the borax/h2o/h2o2 solution? Please advise."Replies
11/07/2011: Modoc from Good, Az replies: "We used Betadine Solution. Straight out of the bottle. Then rinsed with warm water. Freshly cut garlic in his food, every day, twice.. Baby oil, every day, twice. Six days, it was gone."
08/30/2011: K. from Conroe, Tx. Usa: "reply to Jeff from Tampa, Try giving your dog a small amount of benadryl before treatment as this will calm him and help with his need to itch. K. From Conroe"Replies
01/28/2012: Chlo3l33 from Atlanta, Georgia, Usa replies: "If you use anything with anti-histamines, it will only make the mange worse so don't do it!!!!"
[YEA] 08/29/2011: Roxies Mom from Atlanta, Ga: "I tried Ted's recipe for my dog Roxie after she was diagnosed with (noncontagious) mange. I couldnt believe it worked. I kept her crate blanket clean, and sprayed it with the vinegar-borax mixture and sprayed her every day with it as well, as teh other posters suggested. I also gave her weekly baths with it. I would shampoo her first and then pour the mixture over her, and really rub it into her bald spots. A natural cure that worked. It was cheap too. I found teh borax at Target, and the gallon of vingar was like $4 at the grocery store. I have to admit it took about a month for it to go away, but it definitely worked."Replies
10/20/2011: Brenda from Lakewood, Ca replies: "Hi I just started using this treatment. I used this twice so far. I've read that you Spray it too everyday!! I'm going to try that too. How do I know if it's working?"
[YEA] 07/27/2011: Sally from Houston, Texas: "A stay in my backyard with my showpitt scared me because it was unreconizable as every inch was covered in mange. I moved my baby and shut the door. For the next three days I just kept hoping it would go away. I dont need to tell you it didnt leave... I feed it..... Kids named it...... Petted it with garbage bags on thier hands. I couldnt afford a vet so I found this site. Tried the cure I am amazed the difference is night and day we are ten days 2 treatments later she now has hair on her face and is feeling like a puppy. I appreciate this site that gave a puppy a chance to be a family member."Replies
08/20/2011: Ph from Birmingham, England replies: "Thanks Ted for your advice our dog has had mange on and off for a couple of years, the vet treatment hasnt really worked , the last time the pour on stuff seemed to make her ill.!! Anyway ive been trying your formula, ive learned its best to find a good hand sprayer as sponging ect not as effective, vegetable oil seemed to help it moisturized the skin, and is non toxic I used this a couple of days after the borax treatment. Ive also changed her diet, adding two fried eggs, and rice to her tinned meat, before she had the complete dry food. Ive also put her on allergy tablets, at the moment she seems alot better, mange is such a difficult thing to shift, one thing I know is the borax treatment definitely helps, we will have to wait and see whether it works long term. P"
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 07/23/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Usa: "I have once again found more mites (mange) on my kitten; it has been eight months since I last treated her for mange, but I did two of the borax and peroxide treatments twice in between the 8 months of the treatment. It was tolerated good but the tail was so impossible to do. She is some fighter as in meaning she has the will to live & fight for her freedom, also she fears for her life which is also understandable. I cleaned the whole house from top to bottom, cleaned my husband with same solutions as I did for cat/dogs and my self, I tried to keep right on up there in the cleaning and laundry etc. I put all bed items in bags to suffocate any living eggs or mites for days then washed in hot water/borax and amonia ;I recently read that these mites can hold their breath while under water or other solutions, so its even a greater task of holding my kitten in water(head above water)for X amount of time while cleaning her up. I recently tried Rid for head lice on her tail/these mites were embedded there forever, as she was a stray when I found her. The Rid has four items to work with; lice killing shampoo/lice & egg comb out gel/home lice, bed bug, dust mite spray and a fine tooth metal comb. I did her tail with excellent results, but I feel there are still a few eggs there. More on her results later. Thank you every one for this most need help I have gotten. And most of all this site wouldn't be possible it it wasn't for Ted. Thank You Ted."
07/19/2011: Marlon from Manila, Philippines: "i have tried hydrogen peroxide and borax solution to my dog's mange, it works for my german sheperd in just three wks, all of his bald spots are now covered with hair(but not totally grown long).. Lately ive discovered that his head is tilting and shaking his head most of the time (signs of ear mites)... So im just wondering if I can use this as a spray into his ears? is it safe?"
07/15/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Usa: "I AM AT WITS END WITH MY KITTEN; I NEVER NOTICED THAT SHE HAD MANGE AS BAD IF NOT WORSE ON HER TAIL, IT SEEMS TO BE THE HARDEST PLACE TO TACKLE EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SHAVED HER TAIL.
THESE MITES ARE LONG/PROTRUDING AND APPEAR SHARP WHEN I RUN MY HAND OVER HER TAIL TO SEE IF ANY TREATMENTS ARE TAKING EFFECT IF ANYTHING. I THOUGHT HER UPPER BODY PARTS WERE TEDIOUS BUT THEY NOW SEEM EASY IN COMPARISON TO WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
I WAS JUST READING WHERE WE NEED TO DO THE SAME TREAT. AS ANIMALS TREATS. ALSO HUMAND AS WELL AS ANIMALS EYE LASHES AND EYE BROWS HAVE TO BE DONE? NOW THAT IS A NIGHTMARE IN ITSELF. I FOUND THIS TREATMENT BUT NOT SURE OF IT'S RESULTS(?) http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1203895-treatment
AGAIN I WAS READING UP ON DMSO WHERE YOU NEED TO WEAR HEAVY RUBBER GLOVES WHILE USING IT. THERE WAS A WOMAN THAT USED DMSO IN 1965 FOR A SPRAINED WRIST AND SHE DIED, BUT NO REAL OR ABSOLUTE THAT DMSO WAS THE CAUSE(?) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide;
NOW THE REAL ISSUE IS WHAT CAN I DO FOR MY KITTEN? SHE HAS ALL BUT GIVEN UP, AND AS I SAID I'M AT WITS END. I WAS SERIOUSLY THINKING OF USING KWELL WHICH IS NOW OVER THE COUNTER ITEM.
I'M SORRY FOR THE LONG MESSAGES. THANKS."Replies
09/23/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Usa replies: "I'm sorry for the extra large print on my other post, I didn't realize it was on caps.
Well here I am again still at wits end with my kitty, she still has mange plus an upper respiratory condition, her eye is always runny and closed most times, she coughs and sneezes constantly, one right after another, almost like seizures. I was thinking of giving her back to the owner as he has many other cats, I don't feel this cat has a whole lot of a chance much less time, I have two itchy dogs. Two cats that are segregated from all the pets, but that will not prevent the spread of this mange. I am having severe illness issues myself where motivation is becoming weaker & can no longer walk unless I use a wheelchair. I cry at the thought of having to give her up because I know she is happy here and has shown some improvements as to her continued vomitting when she ate, she no longer does that.
I am hoping against time & hope that some one can give me some input? Thank you so much in advance."
05/28/2012: Mrs H from Uvalde, Tx replies: "Sounds like distemper.... Take the kitty to the vet."
12/23/2012: Sue from Union, Ohio replies: "The kitty with the URI its called the herpes virus "cat Flu" I found that the cats response great to lysine. I use the powdered kind. An eighth of a teas twice a day sprinkled over their food. She may need some silver for infection also. You can this to her eyes bc the virus affected the eyes with infection."
03/25/2013: Kiwimama from Akron, Oh replies: "This is Feline Herpes, but it is not cat flu. I never heard of that one. Feline herpes is not curable but it is managable. Any stress will make your kitten have an episode of this. I once had a cat with this. All of the cats that that man had are infected. It is spread very easily. A vet can prescribe some things for helping through the episode. Once your kitten gets stressed again it will happen all over again. And since he already has mites on top of it... it's not looking good for him right now."
07/13/2011: Jennifer from Corpus Christi, Texas: "Mange: can I apply borax and hydrogen peroxide to my dog when her forehead is so bad that its pussy and bleading? I'm scared that the borax will burn and open wound like salt does?"
07/09/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Usa: "totos tribe; i found that my kitten was cured for months and i thought she was doing well, today i find she has more mange where i had missed her tail;this time i shaved her tail as she is very fluffy and i gave her a good dose of straight peroxide and borax, the saddest thing is she has an upper respiratory infection where it's almost impossible to treat therefore it makes her an easier opponent for any type diseases, i feel bad for her because she sleeps a lot and does not get the real quality time to be a kitten and play.
there are others using essential oils(peppermint oil--lavender oil) on their pets which is a severe case of not good for any animal it does severe damage to their liver. i'm sticking with ted's remedy because it does work well. in the past i have used mineral oil in my pets ears an haven't found any negative results as of yet. i wish you the best of luck and i do hope you don't give up on your pet. in the end the rewards are even greater. good luck ;o)"
[YEA] 07/09/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Usa: "EVE; MY NUMBER ONE FEELINGS ARE VERY MUCH AGAINST GOING TO ANY VET PERIOD, THATS WHY I AM IN TED'S FORUM. I'M SORRY TO SOUND SO RUDE BUT I LOST A KITTEN BECAUSE OF A VET. SEVERAL FAMILY AND FRIENDS SAID THEIR ANIMALS WERE PUT TO SLEEP WITH NO ILLNESSES OR CAUSE TO DO SO, "VETS'HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPERIMENT ON OUR ANIMALS/IF THEY DIE SHOULD THE VETS'OR GOV. CARE? THERE CAN NEVER BE A LAWSUIT. I HAVE FOUND THAT TED'S REMEDY IS HARMLESS OVER THE VETS. DECISION TO IGNORANTLY AND WITH INTENT TO EUTHANIZE OUR LOVING HARMLESS PETS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT KIND OF DISEASE AND/OR MITES MY KITTEN HAD BUT SHE WAS CLOSE TO DEATH WHEN I FOUND HER ROAMING THE STREETS AS A STRAY AND TED'S RESULTS SAVED HER LIFE, SHE HAS BEEN THE KITTEN SHE DESERVES TO BE, PLAYING ETC. I RECENTLY FOUND I HAD FAILED TO DO HER TAIL BECAUSE HER FUR IS SO LONG AND THICK BUT I PROMISE TO KEEP HER SAFE AND FREE FROM ALL DISEASES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO VETS. I SURE HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIND OUT THE SAD AWAKENING AS I HAD TO..... R.I.P. TO MY LOVING INNOCENT ZOEY
GOOD LUCK & GOD BLESS"
07/07/2011: Mamatrucker from Seagrove, Nc,usa: "with all the pages ive read on this site I do pray that teds remedy for mange helps my poor dogs, especially the 16yo yorkie. she has been itching, scratching, pacing the floor, crying, barking almost non stop for over a month.
ill keep yall posted as to whether it helps her and my fiest and my 4 dogs outside. wish me luck."Replies
08/16/2011: Bill from La, Ca replies: "Has anybody figured out what this guy's measurements mean?!! What the F?!!! Please make the measurements understandable. This is insane. Who's figured this out?!!!"
08/17/2011: Kathyc from Sarasota, Fl replies: "I also do not understand these instructions. Please clarify: how much peroxide to use in tablespoons/cups.....and do you add the peroxide to the borax and THEN the water? Also, doesn't the peroxide bleach the hair?
A simple recipe would be most helpful, thanks!"
09/30/2011: Middlebunny from Jersey City, New Jersey replies: "I agree. I've had some difficulty interpreting Ted's instructions as well; however, I do eventually figure them out and can use them. It helps to read some of the other posts. People who have used Ted's remedies successfully sometimes clarify the instructions.
To the reader who questioned whether this remedy would bleach a dog's hair: I don't believe it is supposed to bleach it. A 6% H2O2 solution is typically used to bleach human hair so 3% hydrogen peroxide thinned out to a 1% solution should theoretically be fine. Despite this, I used a 1% H2O2 solution and I still had a problem. I mixed the 3% H2O2 with distilled water in a ratio of 1 part H2O2 to 2 parts H2O or 500ml H2O2 to 1000ml of H2O. To this solution, I dissolved 3 tablespoons of Borax. The day after using this on my black cocker spaniel; I noticed that his jet black hair had started to turn red (auburn). I've asked if this is supposed to happen; however, no one has responded to my post yet. I've concluded, on my own, that a 1% H2O2 (3% thinned with 2 parts of water) can still bleach pet hair while a 6% solution is necessary to bleach human hair. I deduced this because I tried spraying my own, dark brown hair, with the same solution used on my spaniel and could not see a color change on my hair. On my dog, the color change is dramatic. Clearly, reducing the 3% H2O2 to 1% by adding twice as much H2O, was insufficient to prevent the hydrogen peroxide from lightening my dog's hair. I'm now substituting the H2O2 with Apple Cider Vinegar using the same ratio: 1 part ACV to 2 parts Water. I just started this today. I hope it works without any side effects."
12/11/2012: Trisha from Atlanta, Georgia replies: "yes peroxide WILL change the color of the fur with regular usage. I had to use it on my cat and on the area I used it is a lighter auburnish color, she has all blavk hair, , but id rather a littlehair coloring than bugs on my baby."