[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  06/23/2012: Tim D from Plano, Texas: "I contracted Hep C around 1984. A friend mentioned an amino acid called "Alpha-Lipoic Acid" to lower my enzymes levels AST and ALT count. He showed me in a book that had a list of elements that were taken out of our school of medicine in 1950's. I have had a level of roughly 20 AST and 35 ALT ever since. My liver doctor about 10 years ago was completly surprised by the levels, and asked what I was doing to get these levels. I mentioned "Alpha-Lipoic Acid" and he did not recognize it. It is sad when we are controlling what doctors should and shouldn't know. Hope this helps those reading."

06/24/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, USA replies: "Tim D from Plano, I first began taking ALA w/ other supplements during meals but found it upsetting to the stomach; after trying ALA 50mg on an empty stomach however, I experience no gastric distress. For me it is important to be sufficiently buffered prior to ALA. The other night I experimented w/ 50mg every 15 min 4x w/ no upset and increased energy and stamina. There are some caps as high as 600mg which I suppose would be beneficial for even advanced stages of liver disease. And now there is a stable form of the more active molecule of called R-Fraction which is touted to deliver over 5 times more than standard Thioctic Acid, and has been reported to have less irritation on delivery."

04/08/2013: Paula from San Francisco, Ca: "Does anybody know if it's OK to take Arginine with hepatits c? First post- thanks much"

04/09/2013: Dave from Fountain Inn, SC replies: "To the issue of whether consumption of arginine can impact Hep B and C, in theory yes. That is because taking arginine can reduce the amount of lysine (another amino acid) in the body and lycine helps fight off at least one virus...herpes simplex. In theory then, lysine may be helping to keep another virus from springing up... such as Hep B and C. About 15 percent of the population has herpes simplex from the reading I have seen. But by extrapolating from this one might theorize that lysine inhibits viral growth and so, again in theory, if lysine is diminished from the system then obviously its inhibiting viral effects might be reduced also.

HOWEVER there are two solutions to the problem for those like myself who take large amounts of arginine because of its amazing health benefits: After consumption of my arginine in the morning (in a liquid form... 5 thousand mg), in the afternoon, I take 500 mg of additional lysine, just to make sure lysine is not being depleted by such large amounts of arginine. Next, to make sure I am not inadvertently reducing an anti viral ability to help my immune system, I take small sips of colloidal silver at least three times weekly. The silver will act to swish out viruses in my body. I'd love for someone to disabuse me of this "theory" I pose above. That is, that lysine does suppress herpes simplex and thus (the theory) that therefore lysine might be suppressing other viruses also and by extension (continued theory) that supplements of lysine if one is taking arginine should counter arginine's impact on lysine in the system."

04/09/2013: Paula from San Francisco, Ca replies: "I am taking the same amount of arginine per day. How much lysine are you taing for for how long?

BTW I also take for all the health benefits. I don't believe anyone should take blood pressure medication."

04/10/2013: Ll from La, Ca replies: "Dave from Fountain In S, C. How much lysine are u taking? Thx much"

10/13/2012: Dan\'s Sister from Playa Vista, Ca: "My Brother was diagnosed with Hep C and Stage IV Cirrhosis. He contracted HepC when he was 18 from blood transfusions from a motorcycle accident. 40 years later he became quite ill even had an esophogeal bleed which almost killed him. Drs at Kaiser said to go home and wait until he qualified for a liver transplant. Nothing they could do for him since he had the bleed out. We searched the internet and found Dr. Burt Berkson in Las Cruces NM.

We went there for 2 weeks, he was so ill he couldn't even roll his own suitcase to the hotel. After 1 week of treatment, he could go up stairs again, he didn't feel like he had the flu, could walk around and could sleep again. When he finished the treatments after two weeks, we flew back to Los Angeles, my husband picked us up at the airport and couldn't believe his eyes when he saw my brother. Dr. Berkson treats many auto immune diseases. We saw miracles in the 2 weeks we were there with several other people. This treatment is not expensive and works. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't experience it with my brother. Our friend is now being treated for his MS and having amazing results as well. Dr. Berkson uses ALA, Silymarin, Selenium IV's with a B complex injection. He also uses a low dose Naltrexone at night. Dan's MRI after treatment showed diminishing of the lesion on his liver and all of his lab work is moving in the right direction. The Dr at Kaiser asked what he was doing, because he was surprised at how his lab work turned out. We never told him because we thought he would be offended or try to convince us not to go back in 6 months for a "top up".

Berkson looks at your lab work (you can fax it) and tells you if he thinks he can help you or not free of charge. People were there from all over the world telling us about their success with this treatment."

10/14/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "The ALA Breakthrough and User's Guide to the B-Complex Vitamins -- by Dr Burt Berkson.

I've recently read the above two books by Dr Burt Berkson and both were an interesting and revealing read because I learnt something useful about these particular nutrients.

The most impressive and remarkable of his books is The ALA Breakthrough which initialy describes his involvement, as a Phd researcher, on the usefulness and helpfulness of ALA to act as a prime anti-oxidant that removes the deathly effects of poison mushrooms on the body. Later, as a qualified doctor, he began researching and using ALA in combination with other particular nutrients like LDN, Selenium and Milk Thistle and the B Vitamins which he applied in their correct orthomolecular and medical amounts to succsessfully treat and combat Aging, Diabetes, peripheral neuropathies, MS, Heart Disease, Pancreatic Cancer, Liver Cancer as well as curing and reviving people with Hepatitis C. ALA also greatly aids patients with the following problems: HIV-positive, AIDS, immunosuppression, psoriasis, eczema, burns, skin cancer, Lou Gehrig's and Parkinson's diseases and other neurological conditions, rheumatoid, arthritis, systemic lupus, scleroderma and other autoimmune diseases, macular degeneration, cataracts and other eye diseases, blood circulation, stroke, and hardening of the arteries.

Dr Burton's other book on B Vitamins is also a must read for his clear and simple insights and explanations. In the book, he goes right through why everyone needs each of the B Vitamns. I would also agree with him about their importance, since most people on western diets are greatly lacking in this group of vitamins today."

10/14/2012: Rsw from Uniontown, Oh replies: "Hi Bill, Thanks for the info on Dr. Berkson's work. I was taking ALA with LDN for over a year after reading of his success but stopped taking the ALA after reading that it could be a bad idea if you have any amalgam fillings. I have two in a tooth with a gold onlay, so if I have them removed, I am sure the entire molar will go. Do you think ALA is more helpful or hurtful if you have amalgam fillings? Thank you for your always informative posts and for taking the time to help so many people."

10/18/2012: Eladapinio from Ny replies: "Rsw from Uniontown, Oh asked a great question regarding the intake of ALA when one has amalgam fillings, crowns, etc. There seems to be a strong convinction among the online holistic community that ALA will pull the mercury out of the fillings and ultimately help deposit it in the brain. My question is- is this true for any chelation? Will spirulina and chlorella lead to the same results? And if yes, how does one support the liver until one is able to remove the fillings/crowns? Thank you."

05/12/2013: Wayseeker from Modest, Ca: "Dear Oscar, I have good news for you about my son and I. We are Hep C free. Finally got us both tested, having to overcome all kinds of fears, and finally did a mail-order 99% accurate one, for some privacy. Cost $60 each. We are so grateful we are well!

I am now trying to navigate the VA again, for any kind of care they can provide should Marv need it. It is a mess of organizational mazes. Healing is so much easier! Thanks again Earth Clinic, for being here as a channel for us to help one another. --Wayseeker"

05/14/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear wayseeker from Modesto, Please provide some more detail. What hepatitis C test did Marvin test NEGATIVE with ? Was it the hepatitis C antibodies test or not ? This is very important to know.

Also, I VERY much encourage Marvin to continue the BHT treatment for at least one more year. We want to make very sure there are no infected liver cells left in his body. He has come such a long ways in his recovery I want him to take no chances with any possible relapse. I am absolutely thrilled with his results, but not at all surprised. This BHT treatment does work if people listen to how best to use it. At least very many people do. Thank you for posting about Marvin`s recovery with the use of BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] to treat hepatitis C....Oscar"

05/15/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "I made a mistake I need to correct. Wayseeker was reporting that SHE and her SON tested negative for hepatitis C. NOT Marvin her husband, the person with a long history of a hepatitis C infection. Marvin has had a dramatic improvement in his liver function tests with the BHT treatment. But I am quite sure Wayseeker was NOT saying Marvin now tests negative for hepatitis C. My appologies for any confusion I have caused about this....Oscar"

04/26/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Larry from Boston, Great hearing from you Larry. Yes, This BHT treatment for hepatitis C and B really does work and amazingly well for some people including you. I am not at all surprised that you felt much better in a few short days. This is not unusual for many people. That IS the way it worked for me also. Nothing subtle about it. I got better and fast using the BHT treatment for hepatitis C and in my case hepatitis B also.

Now I need to update this forum that there is now: THE NEW BHT CURES GROUP here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_New_BHT_Cures_Group/

The original BHT cures group is SHUT DOWN. We had to do that to be able to add much needed new moderators.

To all who are trying the BHT treatment for viral hepatitis both B and C: Please keep posting your results here at the EARTH CLINIC....Oscar"

04/06/2013: Timh from Louisville, KY, USA replies: "Art: Glad to see you're improving. Nothing like a success story. Although I haven't any lab test, I did experience noticeable improvements in health when I began the BHT, but soon leveled, but continued 250mg 2x day for about 1 yr. Then added Colloidal Silver prior and Echinacea after BHT with a pronounced good effect.

What I was saying on another post, for some people who may have multiple issues, BHT alone isn't enough for the Hep.

I have yet to try the Chanca Pedra, but that time is coming.

As for liver health, while the subject is on, after the previous BHT Plus treatment, then an extensive fatty liver regimen, my health still deteriorated to almost unable to carry on with daily functions. I get good results with my 30 hrz zapper attached to each foot in a bath, but I have experimented zapping w/ one foot in bath and the other pole directly over the liver (i also wet the shirt for the copper pipe to maximize effect). This maneuver has helped me noticeably in the past and I hoped the other liver treatments would prove I didn't need to over-the-liver zap anymore ---but I was wrong. Just a few days ago I was despairing and redid the liver zap for over an hr with very good results (my overall strength and stamina was restored). In between any number of parasites and pathogens that can affect the liver, I would strongly recommend this liver zap for those who seem to be running out of healing options."

03/13/2013: Rsw from Uniontown, Oh replies: "Look at Oscar's comments and experience using BHT to drastically reduce or erase viral load for lipid coated viruses, like Hep C. I have seen many posts from people who are having success with his protocol. Best wishes."

03/13/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Megan from Branchville. There are many people reporting success with the use of BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] as an effective treatment for hepatitis C in all of its variants. The dosages used are between 200mg and 350mg taken once or twice a day with water on an empty stomach.

If interested there is the NEW BHT CURES GROUP here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_New_BHT_Cures_Group/

Our focus is BHT as a treatment for the different hepatitis viruses.

If you choose to try this treatment please do report your results here at the EARTH CLINIC....Oscar"

03/14/2013: Megan from Branchville, Sc replies: "Thank you all very much for the information and for this site, it gives me a better outlook on this."

03/14/2013: Art from Vancouver Bc., Canada replies: "To Megan from Branchville Sc.

Take a look under the remedies tab and click on BHT (Butilated Hydroxy Toluine) and start reading all the wonderful messsages that Oscar has worked so hard with to get out there. This powerful antioxident will give you 20 years back and take away any brainfog, one of the side effects from the convetional therapy. If I would have known about this BHT< I would have taken it as well as the Pegatron which I suspect your Mom is taking.

It is very cheap and has cured some of the harder to treat genome 1a. You can join us over at the http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_New_BHT_Cures_Group/

You can read more there as well. Oscar has started this site and since then I have discovered that Milk Thistle and Grapefruit Juice can block it and some other drugs, so it is not a good idea to take that.

Good luck to you.

Art"

EC: Google Translation:

To all my friends on the forum, my friend Oscar I really need your help, to know that this battle continues in HPC. As units. bht know started using in June 2012 which began thus

Jun-2012, WBC-1.21; plateles-75, AST-65, ALT-63, VL-194, 000.

Aug-2012, WBC-3.1; plateles-78, AST-59, ALT-51, VL-5, 000.; Al.kaline phosphatase-117.

Dec., 2012, WBC-3.3; plateles-94, AST-249, ALT-318, alkaline phosphatase-172, I do not know where did these numeros.VL-1, 228,570

Jan -2013.WBC-3.7; plateles-119, AST-162, ALT-175, alkaline phosphatase-208, VL-7, 060. 530. Now if you do not, some of you who use BHT to the alkaline phosphatase increased, it may be that the cause or not, I have my next test at 8 weeks and they do not follow or not. Please answer me and give me some suggestions oscar. gracias.

.

01/25/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, USA replies: "Dear Alicia, Based on the feedback available: Do NOT take milk thistle or it`s extracts. Do NOT drink grapefruit juice. Those two things are known to make the BHT treatment NOT work. Also, those reporting the best results are using 2 doses of BHT. One dose in the morning and one at night with water on an empty stomach. I have to keep my messages very simple because you do not understand English. What you say to me gets confused in translation....Oscar"

01/19/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Kate from Lima, Peru. Do NOT use BHT treatment when pregnant!!! Because no human tests have been done regarding it`s effect on a dveloping fetus. So if you are now preganant STOP the BHT treatments.

And if you choose to try the BHT treatment while NOT pregnant STOP using it if you become pregnant. Many commonly used substances including alcoholic beverages and cigarettes have proven to be harmful to developing fetuses. I my opinion and that of many: It is a very good idea to avoid any and all unusual substances and that does include BHT when pregnant.

So, in my opinion it is NOT safe to take BHT while pregnant....Oscar"

02/02/2013: Lana from Raleigh, NC replies: "good news but not great:

after 6 months of bht: ast 32, alt 54, viral load 7858659, genotype 3"

01/08/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Joanne from Albany, NY, You are asking questions I am NOT qualified to answer. I am NOT a medical doctor.

Are you saying you no longer have cirrhosis ? If that is true you have to be doing something right. What treatment did you use to cure this cirrhosis? If you truly no longer have cirrhosis I see no reason why you would be at any greater risk than the others trying the BHT treatment. And I am NOT saying there is NO risk. If you choose to try the BHT treatment do so with care. Start with small dosages. Say 50mg of BHT per day for one week and have that STANDARD LIVER PANEL series of tests done to see if any adverse effects are detected. If no adverse effects are detected proceed by carefully ramping up your dosage to no more than 350mg of BHT per day. I am very interested in how you successfully treated your cirrhosis condition... Oscar"

01/08/2013: Joanne from Albany, Ny replies: "Oscar. What I wanted to know is, have you come across anybody who has had that particular situation I described and what was their outcome if any? You have had much more contact with people with hepatitis c than I. If you were a doctor I wouldn't contact you. Thank you."

01/08/2013: Joanne from Albany, Ny replies: "Hi Oscar, I just noticed you replied under my response, or it was put up that way. In any event, thank much for the feedback. I will do as you suggested and progress slowly and watch my enzymes. My concern was/is will my neuropathy be bothered as you might have heard or read from other people.

My neuropathy is caused by the virus and to get rid of it I have to obviously get rid of the virus. The Catch 22 is will the remedy cause an increase in my neuropathy. Thank you again for your time. Dr "O". (:)"

01/07/2013: Art from Vancouver Bc, Canada replies: "Dear JP from Pasadena Ca.

I have been taking BHT since Mid January 2012. I have had neuropathy slowly gaining over the past 6 years. As far as I am concerned the BHT is not ramping it up or making it worse. I am only using 350mg once a day of BHT. For my hep-c. I have had great success with the BHT and my Liver tests indicate that with decreasing numbers. I have also discovered that Chanca Piedra seems to be helping me and has taken away the slight pain I had in my upper right quadrant. As for my neuropathy, I control it with ALA and B12. In my opinion I think the BHT is a wonderful simple solution for me.

Art."

01/08/2013: Jp from Pasadena, Ca replies: "Thanks Art for the feedback. My neuropathy has been getting better with 6-9 grams of flax seed oil a day with lecethin. Flax seed is the dry weight of the myelin sheath. I also have been doing the water cure with great results. Salt and water. watercure2.org

I don't think neuropathy is a big problem as it is just a matter of rebuilding the myelin sheath. Most people don't drink enough water and the salt will hold the water in the sheath and also help other organs. Read the MS testimonials on the site. Impressive stuff. MS is the big brother of neuropathy.

I will try the BHT sloooowly..."

12/02/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, USA replies: "Dear Rachael from Albany, In my opinion: Buy and use the straight BHT. That is to say a product that is BHT and BHT only. The reason I say that is because I have no way of knowing the effect of mixing BHT with these different compounds. The BHT seems to work best when taken by itself and not mixed with some other compound or compounds.

BHT is a reactive compound and will combine in unpredictable ways with other compounds in the human body when mixed at the time it is ingested. It is well known that BHT readily combines with the amino acid glycine and an acid of glucuse. You can read about that here:

Biological Data Biochemical aspects BHT is readily absorbed. Some deposition in adipose tissue bee been described following high dosage in the rat, and this may cause increased stability of the extracted perineal fat. The metabolism of BHT is complicated by the presence of the butyl groups on each side of the hydroxyl. Preliminary modification is necessary before conjugation can occur. This takes the form of either oxidation of one of the butyl groups to a 2-hydroxy-2:2-dimethyl-2-ethyl group, or oxidation of the methyl group to a carboxy acid. The former yields glucuronide conjugates, while the latter becomes conjugated with glucuronic acid or glycine. Some of the oxidized material is also excreted unconjugated.

That statement is a portion of a World Health Organization toxicology report on BHT and is in agreement with other such reports.

So keep it simple. Use pure BHT taken with a gulp of water on an empty stomach. I buy the BHT I use from Vitamin Research Products. There are other companies selling good quality BHT. Start with small doses. These capsules are easy to open up for getting a smaller dose. Find a dose you are comfortable with. For people first starting out I recommend no more than 350mg per day or less. You have to find a dose you are comfortable with. I recommend no more than 350mg of BHT taken twice a day. And less for many people. Very good results are being reported with these smaller doasages. Anywhere from 200mg per day to 700mg of BHT per day. If you wish to you can join the BHT CURES GROUP here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/

But please do report your experience with BHT as a treatment for hepatitis C here at the EARTH CLINIC. I hope that information helps you. Sincerely, ...Oscar"

12/02/2012: Rachael from Albany, Ny replies: "Oscar, Thank you very much for the quick reply. It seeems to apear that this info will save me time and of course money..."

12/27/2012: Lana from Raleigh, Nc replies: "Hi Oscar; How do you feel about food with hep c, other than the obvious junk food. I was told coffee increases the viral load. I also take R-lipoic Acid 2x's a day at a different time from the bht. Getting bloodwork done in January, hoping for good results. I am genotype 3. Thanks for all of your help."

12/28/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Lana from Raleigh NC, Good to hear from you. Well, I very much hope your blood tests show excellent results. But do let the forum know what the results are whatever they are. Thanks for reporting in. Sincerely, ...Oscar"

02/22/2013: Lana from Raleigh, Nc replies: "Hi Oscar; my blood test a few weeks ago were good: the ast is in the normal range for the first time since 2008, it is 32 the alt is 54 and the viral load is still up there around 8 million but it was 15 million. I am hopeful. I do take r-lipoic acid 300mg 2x a day and the bht 350mg by itself in the morning. I couldn't take it 2 times a day because it made my mind race. Thank you, I am genotype 3 and have been on the bht for about a year... Thanks so much for helping all of us! with hope, Lana"