Last Modified on Mar 12, 2014
What Are Eye Floaters?
Eye floaters are one of the many conditions that affect an individual’s eyesight. Typically seen as a black or gray speck, eye floaters are general spots in the vision. These “floaters” can also look like strings or cobwebs that drift or move throughout the line of sight as the eye moves. Generally associated with age-related vision changes, eye floaters present several symptoms and can be caused by a number of different factors.
The symptoms of eye floaters include the characteristic “spot” in one’s vision. The spot may appear as a dark speck or even as transparent lines or strings of moving, floating material. In addition, the spots typically move as the eye moves, are visible when viewing a plain bright background and may settle out of the line of vision over time. More serious symptoms associated with eye floaters include the appearance of several new floaters, a sudden onset of floaters, flashes of light and darkness in the peripheral vision. These more serious symptoms include prompt attention from an eye specialist.
The most common cause of eye floaters involves age-related vision changes. The vitreous or jelly-like substance that fills the eyeballs changes in consistency over time and partially liquefies also creating clumps and strings. The “floaters” seen are debris in the inner eye blocking light from passing into the eye. Additional causes of floaters include inflammation in the back of the eye, bleeding in the eye and a torn retina.
Natural Cures for Eye Floaters
Many natural dry eye treatments are also effective treatments for eye floaters. Beet juice taken orally daily, l-carnisine eye drops, can-c eye drops, and taurine are all effective remedies for the condition. Additionally, magnesium, vitamin D and boron taken daily support overall eye health and treat as well as prevent floaters. Milk thistle, vitamin c and pantothenic acid are also effective dry eye treatments and floater remedies.
[YEA] 03/18/2013: Jay from Hyderabad, India: "Excess calc fluor in my body resulted the floaters. I am taking beet juce daily, now after 3 days, 80% floaters are gone, and rest are reduced in size, so wanted to continue to take beet juce."Replies
05/13/2013: Shikhar from Noida, Up replies: "Hi Jay, Hoping you are doing great. I am suffering from eye flaoters since 4 years and after the last few weeks it got increased. I have been checked by eyes from varius Doctors but they said no treatment is required. Could you please let me know about the beet juice and how much benefit you got with that? Regards, Shikhar shikhar82 (at) gmail [dot]com."
05/13/2013: Carol from San Francisco, Ca. replies: "Would also like to know about the beet juice. I purchased some beets a few days ago and would like to know should I just juice them and how much juice are you using? Thanks so much!!"
07/29/2013: Raj from Himachal replies: "Hi Jai, I have flashes and floaters both. And my vision of left eye is going too blurry. Could you tell me that will it work on my flashes? If yes then how much quantity should be used."
08/05/2013: Ks from India replies: "Raj from Himachal - u must visit an eye doctor asap. This condition could be very serious. Don't waste time."
01/08/2014: Tonio90 from Milano replies: "Sleeping on your stomach causes eye floaters."
[YEA] 03/12/2014: Carri, Rmt & Stress Reduction Practitioner from Boulder, Co replies: "I would like to share some topics I found through research after experiencing my own floaters. Tight neck muscles can cause stress on the muscles around the eyes influencing the flow in the vessels that feed the eyes & numerous other facets of eye functionality. Weak liver, kidney & adrenal function may all play a part. Mental stress for the same reason as tight neck muscles. Imperfect vision. Stress from the above added to contact wear, glasses wear & computer work. What helped; easy access to public for free: ~Shiatsu massage weekly (or research and learn how to work all the muscles around the eyes (refrain from pushing on the eyeball). ~Reflexology points on the hands or feet daily to promote health in the liver, kidney & adrenals. ~Stretching the neck: specific to scalene muscles, upper traps, occipital region. Minor stretch with oil if excessively tight as overdoing a stretch can worsen the pull on vessels and cause inflammation. ~Develop mental healing skills. If stressed try EFT (tapping). ~Nutritional helps: B vitamins, beet juice or supplement, vitamin C, liquid chlorophyll a few drops to a bottle of water, vitamin A ~Exercises to improve vision. Research the Bates Method. He has a free e-book online that explains much about vision. Many individuals have copied his free material & placed packages for sale."
[YEA] 07/22/2007: Mare from st louis, mo: "You need to find out about the Budwig Diet.Read the information at www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Budwig.html.
Dr. Johanna Budwig was the foremost expert in the world on fats and oils. She was able to heal people even from their deathbeds using flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. (It's all about the electrons!) She also recommends veggies and fruit. (no meats, animal fats, or sugar.) She lived into her 90's. and was a nominee for the nobel prize many times. Earth Clinic should be all over this one. It helps all sorts of diseases, Heart Infarction. arthritis, cancer etc, and is good for athletic performance and in fact, the whole family. I have done oil pulling for only a short time and it has helped the floaters in my eye get smaller & less dark. (they were the result of a burst capillary.)"Replies
11/05/2008: Ross from Kildare, Ireland replies: "i have floaters and you say that the use of flax seed oil can help .how much per day should i take and can i get it from my local organics shop. please write back"
EC: The Budwig Diet: 3-5 tablespoons of organic flax seed oil thoroughly blended (hand blender works best) with 1 cup of low fat organic cottage cheese. The 1 cup is eaten throughout the day. Flax can be found in the refrigerated section of your local health food store (important). More here: http://www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm
04/08/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "I don't like cottage cheese. Can I just take it by the spoon? What about doing oil pulling with flaxseed oil? I hadn't seen the answer to a first question I posted on this subject but I will surely look into the mini-beet protocol. I am so fed up of these floaters especially in my right eye which is the one most affected by myopia. I have tried countless natural medication for the liver but nothing ever changed. As someone suggested here that massaging the shoulders seems to help I will roll my shoulders next time I go for a walk in the sunshine as I see them when I am in bright lights."
09/09/2011: Bonecrusher from Denver, Colorado replies: "No, you cannot just take the flax oil by itself, that defeats the whole premise of the Budwig Protocol. Oil pulling will just be a waste of good flax oil.
Mix 3tbsp flax to 6tbsp cottage cheese (2:1 ratio) mix it, add in some blueberries or other fruit of your choice and mix some more. Eat it, no whining about cottage cheese."
[YEA] 11/03/2011: Joe from Rome, Lazio, Italy replies: "I have done quite a bit of reading about the Budwig diet, and it seems that as an alternative to cottage cheese you could use quark. It makes it taste much, much nicer, especially with some cinammon and some berries. I have it every morning because it's delicious - tried the cottage cheese for awhile but the consistency put me right off.
Also, I don't think yogurt works too well - something to do with the sulphur content, but I don't remember exactly. Sulphur in itself is a very interesting element and should be researched. I think it's one of the primary ways your body moves oxygen around your body."
12/05/2011: Julie from Toronto, Ontario / Canada replies: "Quark, flax, cheese - forget it - just try those l-carnisine eye drops.
2. Bright eyes
You might have to order them online but they exist and reduce your floaters amazingly well. Use them as much as you want - the more the better. No side effects except your eyes feel a million times better. They are a miracle so try them if you have bad floaters. Forget diets, looking into the moon or sun & any other stupid old remedy - just get those drops and start using them alot.
Then get back online and tell people - maybe the eye community can make those eye doctors tell us about these drops even if they aren't a prescription. They don't seem to recognize them - which led me to get my 2nd floater - if I had used them when I got the first one - I never would have got this second one and my life would have been way better."
08/02/2012: Kk from Seattle, Wa replies: "I doubt safety of using flax seeds. A lot of parasite sites talk about possibilities of nuts and seeds being contaminated with parasites. This totally averts me from using raw seeds. If to do termal treatment of seeds then that omega 3 fats there go rancid, then there is no point.
I understand that there can be a benefit, I just do not know how to clean these seeds."
10/10/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Kk. You don't need to bother with the flax seeds. In fact, I don't recommend it on a long term basis. I got diverticulitis after using ground flax seeds every day for several years. They can stick together and become trapped in the diverticulae of your intestines and then become infected. You can see the stickiness very easily. Just wet your finger and put it in the seeds an the seed will stick to your fingers like glued on and or will stick to each other if whetted. If you do use the seeds and grind them, consume them immediately afterward so as not to allow them time to become rancid. Just use the flax seed oil instead but be careful about the flax seed oil you buy. It should be produced in a nitrogen environment as flax seed oil is extremely reactive with oxygen of the air and will become rancid quickly if exposed to unrestricted oxygen in the air for any length of time. It is said to be 30 times as reactive as sunflower oil. Further, it should be sold in a brown glass bottle as it can react just from exposure to light. Also, once bought and opened, it should be closed again right after you take out the oil you want to use, and then put back in the fridge where it's dark and cold immediately in order to keep it fresh and to maintain its health benefits for the body. Also, the oil you buy should not have any preservatives in it or it defeats the health benefit of the flax seed oil you're seeking. You can take flax seed oil alone as an antiviral or anti inflammatory. But, the Budwig protocol for cancer requires low fat cottage cheese or quark combined with flax seed oil in order to act as an oxygen carrier in the body to combat the cancer. In the case of cancer, Budwig warns that taking flax seed oil by itself shouldn't be done at all. Also, I think it is best to prepare your budwig protocol just before use to maintain it in the freshest state. I make Budwig shakes. To do this I put a third of a cup of low fat cottage cheese in a blender and add to that two tablespoons of flaxseed oil. I also usually add half an apple and half an orange but you can add whatever fruit you like. I then add just enough 1% butter fat milk to allow it to blend as low fat is important and pour that mixture when blended into a regular beer glass for dirinking. Budwig also allowed or even suggested the adding of a bit of honey. Perhaps the honey helps pull the respiratory enzyme created by the mixture into the cancer cells. When my son had cancer, the Budwig shake was the only alternate protocol we tried that brought his cancer markers to normal and below. FWIW"
10/11/2013: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Frank, so putting flax seeds in a smoothie is not a good idea? Is this also true with blended chia seeds and/or sesame seeds?"
10/15/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Mmsg, I used to take two tablespoons of flaxseeds ground up with an electric grinder everyday. As best as I can recall I took these in my oat bran cereal for breakfast or my daily Budwig shake. I would have thought that taking them in this way that they would have been sufficiently separated to prevent them sticking together, but I believe they become trapped first in the diverticulae, then stick together, and them become infected.
At any rate after doing this for about two to three years, I got diverticulitis. This causes the diverticulae to become stretched out and deformed. Now I have to have fiber daily such as oat bran or psylium fiber to keep these diverticulae flushed out so that food particles don't become trapped in them.
With regard to chia seeds, I have no direct experience so I can't really comment on them.
With regard to sesame seeds, I have little experience with them but I suspect they are also sticky like flax seeds as I recall eating them in a Chinese restaurant where you wet the chopsticks and dipped them in the seeds to pick them up.
However, I found out the cause of the diverticulitis when I told a friend about it and he responded, "Oh you get that from eating small seeds." FWIW"
10/16/2013: Prioris from Fl replies: "In response to ..."However, I found out the cause of the diverticulitis when I told a friend about it and he responded, "Oh you get that from eating small seeds." FWIW"...
That is just a myth. Diverticulitis is caused by bacteria. The bacteria can be killed and pockets healed with Aloe Muciliginous Polysaccharide but i'd try the aloe vera juice first.
There are list of foods that are supposedly the culprit but those foods may be only part of a long chain reaction. You need to know what spawned the bacteria.
For instance, if I eat too much sweet things like candy or french toast etc, it spawns the bacteria. I can eat most of those other foods on the list and it won't be a problem. Of course if the bacteria does get spawned, those other foods like seeds may add to it. If the problem does occur again, I can usually douse it out very quickly.
If your pockets healed, the seeds would likely not have been a problem.
You will likely find out very quickly what actually is the root of your causation if it happens again after you cure it."
10/23/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Julie Tor. Cda & Prioris FL,
My Can-C eyedrops and L-Carnosine 500 mg capsules arrived today. I have put one drop of Can-C in each eye and have taken one L-Carnosine capsule. I will let you know how it works out for me to get rid of my eye floaters."
10/30/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "It has now been one week. I have put one drop of the Can-C eyedrops in each eye every day and have also taken one 500 mg L-Carnosine capsule each day.
There was no stinging from the Can-C dropst the first couple of times I used them but they now sting a little when I put them in but that is very brief. I checked my eyes by looking at a white piece of paper before making this post and I am unable to detect any decernable difference after one week. I intend to continue using the drops and capsules until they are all gone and will try to remember to give weekly reports or if I notice any significant change."
11/03/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Today is the tenth day of the Can-C and 500 mg L-Carnosine capsules for eye-floaters regimen. Starting today I am increasing the Can-C drops from one drop per day to two drops per day, with one drop in the morning and one drop in the evening. So far there is no decernable change in my eye-floaters."
11/06/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "It is now two weeks since starting the Can-C eye drop and L-Carnosine capsule regimen for eye floaters. I am currently using two drops of Can-C, one in the morning and one in the evening as well as one 500 mg L-Carnosine capsule per day. There is no discernible improvement in the eye floaters at this time. There is, however, significant improvement in eye comfort. My eyes are feeling normal and not congested or dry as before. I don't think the improvement is due entirely to this regimen as I am also following a dry eye regimen described else where on this page. However, I think this regimen is helping as well. I also have had a chronic lingering low level sinus infection. I have recently used a 5% Boric acid solution nasal spray in the evening before bed for that condition. It is significantly improved after only a few applications. I have only used two or three sprays in each nostril before bed time about three times and my sinuses are feeling quite normal now. I believe this has significantly reduced the infection in and around my eyes and likely has also contributed to the improved comfort of my eyes."
11/13/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "It is now three weeks since starting using Can-C eye-drops and a 500 mg L-Carnosine capsule per day for my eye-floaters. I am currently using two Can-C drops per day and there is no improvement to report."
11/13/2013: Prioris from Fl replies: "I'd give the test 4 weeks or just finish bottle. Doesn't seem to be too promising from your reports. I have tried it for 2 weeks with no positive results. I will experiment with it more later. I have had some positive results with taurine but it starts to give me a migraine."
11/20/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Prioris. I originally planned to use up all of the Can-C drops and L-carnosine capsules to complete this experiment. It's getting a bit discouraging because I hoped to see some improvement in what I think are blood cells floating around if not the larger floaters But I can't detect any change even there. For now, I still intend to continue with the program. I have two bottles of Can-C drops and I'm still on the first bottle and there were 60 L-Carnosine capsules in the bottle to start with. Like you I got some headaches from the Taurine and stopped taking them when I started with the Can-C and L-Carnosine, so as not to confuse any results I might get. The research I did about Taurine indicated that it is important to retina health and I will likely resume taking those capsules once I finish this regimen."
11/28/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "It is now five weeks since starting using Can-C eye-drops and a 500 mg L-Carnosine capsule per day for my eye-floaters. I am currently using two Can-C drops per day and there is no improvement to report."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 11/30/2013: F from Thunder Bay, On replies: "I have now done the Can-C eye-drops and L-Carosine regimen for 37 days, from Oct. 23/13 to Nov. 29/12, and have decided to stop the regimen beginning today Nov. 30/13. The reason I am stopping the regimen is because I believe I am experiencing negative symptoms related to the regimen.
Firstly, over about the past week I have started to notice difficulty reading the credits on the TV screen following a movie or other writing on the TV screen. Admittedly, this may be due to the fact that I have a new prescription for glasses that I haven had filled yet, but I believe this is something different and of a more rapid onset which I suspect is due in part at least to this regimen.
Second, my eyes have become somewhat reddened and slightly inflamed. The redness on a scale of 1 to 10, is about a 4 given that 1 is white and 10 is blood red. On a scale of 1 to 10, the burning is slight and about a 3. The burning is now more or less the continuous norm as opposed to the normal and comfortable feeling about ten days to two weeks into the regimen. I suspect this is due to the eye-drops and their action on the surface of the eye, but this regimen is not getting into the eye and reducing the eye-floaters.
I do not think these new symptoms are do to the return of dry-eye condition mentioned earlier. I am not getting sudden stop of the eye-lid during blinking due to dryness of the eye, neither is there continual greasiness or abundant mucous in the eye. Also, I am not getting the blocked tear-duct that caused a build up of tears that took 10 to 15 finger wipes to drain them away.
Given the above, I think the regimen is now causing negative symptoms without delivering any positive ones. And on account of that have decided to cease the regimen today. I have given thought to perhaps taking a break and then resuming the regimen but given that there is no improvement is symptoms, that is not likely. Should I resume the regimen, I will report back here about that.
I intend to take a Taurine capsule today, and then I'll see whether to take them daily, every second day, or once or twice a week. But, I'll report back on how that goes.
I also intend to start researching eye-floaters again and I will report back If I discover any significant findings.
Good luck to you all with your eye-floaters, And, like Edison said of his Light bulb experiments, he hadn't failed, only discovered another way that didn't work. :)
11/30/2013: Wayclear from Motown, Ca replies: "Hi Frank-- I had some bad eye-floaters at one time, such that I couldn't see all the letters in a sign for instance. I also saw strange colors like an oil slick sometimes. Like it or don't, but what really helped me was putting collodial silver solution in a small, glass spray-mister bottle, and spraying a few squirts in my eye a few times. It was a godsend, and worked almost immediately.
What I do now, for my dry eyes, is put coconut oil on my lids and all over the lashes and everything. It does not bother my vision at all, and seems to be clearing it of dry eye, stringers, parasites, floaters and what-have-you... as another poster has mentioned.
But my big secret is that I follow an East Indian practice of placing urine in my eyes (i.e., M-urine).
Hope it works as well for you as it did for me! I wouldn't do all three at the same time.
--May You See Your WayClear"
11/30/2013: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa replies: "Dear Frank,
Thanks for taking time to keep us posted. You are right - you haven't failed, only found out something else that didn't work. I appreciate your optimism! I trust that you will keep us posted when you come upon the solution! Thanks again!
~Mama to Many~"
Eye Floaters and Eye Flashes
08/14/2013: Emmer from South Of Boston, Ma: "I have recently been experiencing eye floater/flashes. Is there a folk remedy for this?"Replies
08/14/2013: Stephanie from Framingham, Ma replies: "I take 500 mgs Taurine and they dissappear the next day and my eyesight improves dramatically. I now take one very day and no more floaters and great eyesight... Miracle stuff in my opinion."
08/14/2013: Bess from Calgary, Alberta, Canada replies: "Hi Stephanie from Framingham - Your post regarding taurine and eye health intrigued me so I did a bit of research into what else taurine can do. The list is quite impressive! From what I read it helps with eye health, tinnitus, liver health, seizures, diabetes, heart health, etc. My brother (severely overweight) has just been diagnosed with diabetes - he is already experiencing neuropathy. However, he refuses to change his diet/lifestyle. He will take medication but will not do anything else (including reading about his disease). I'm going to see if he will at least try taurine. Thank you, Stephanie, for opening my eyes (and eye health) to taurine! Cheers, Bess"
05/18/2013: Saba from Mentor, Oh: "Lately I'm seeing flashes in my eyes. Sometimes they come on the sides and sometimes at the bottom. They only last a second or two. Does anyway know what they are and how to heal it? Please help, thank you."Replies
05/19/2013: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Saba: when you see eye flashes you should RUN to the doctor! It may be nothing but it may be something very serious and you MUST catch it early."
05/19/2013: Carly from Wa, Usa replies: "This is one of the rare times I am going to say this.... You need to see an eye doctor. Right away. As in first thing in the morning. You could have something very serious going on that could cause blindness. I am not trying to scare you, but please.... Go. Good luck, and please keep us posted."
05/19/2013: Saba from Mentor, Oh replies: "OK thanks I will do that. Scary!"
05/20/2013: Joy from Battleground, Wash replies: "I got these once in the shape of a football that got larger and larger until I couldn't see at all... For about half an hour , then I was fine and went to the eye doc. He asked if I had a pounding headache. I said no, he said lucky you, it was a migraine. My friend gets them and loses her sight all the time, for more than an hour at a time. Maybe low magnesium. I had this over ten years ago, only one!"
05/20/2013: Art from Vancover, Bc. Canada replies: "I used to get them to as well as a pressure feeling in my left eye. I then discovered B12 5,000 mcg sublingual did the trick. I also take a B12 1,000 mcg time released with my other vitamins. There is no toxicity as you pee out what you don't need. It also helps with neuropathy. Art."
09/17/2013: Rickt from Winston-salem Nc replies: "Saba, from experience, you most likely have vitreous detachment. The jelly vitreous fluid of the eye ball shrinks with age. Light then fills the void causing the flashing. Not much can be done but important you see an eye doctor immediately to make sure is not major problem that could be forming."
[YEA] 09/02/2010: Nadine from Matlacha,, Florida: "I have had Floaters for many years. They are annoying. I was able to find a way to tolerate them when suddenly they disappeared. I usually used to get them when I was extremely tired and its very hot outside, and living in Florida it's mostly hot all the time. I decided to try Flaxeed oil about a year ago after a lot of reading about the possible way to get them to go away, and that seems to have licked them for now. I also exercise about 2 hours a day and I'm told that it might help. Hope this helps."Replies
09/03/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Hi Nadine, I have also had floaters for many years. That seems to be connected with the age and the fact that the retina starts pulling and getting detached. Mine are always there is there is more light and nothing I try makes me see less of these crazy things. Could you maybe explain what you did with the flaxseed oil? Did you do oil pulling, take it or something else? I have been taking flaxseed oil in pills for a while but didn't notice any difference. Before that I also took 1 soup spoon a day with no results and I was afraid the oil would turn rancid without me noticing it so I stopped and started with the pill. Please tell me what you do exactly and I hope they never come back for you as this is really annoying! Like you I am always hunting for solutions!"
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 10/09/2009: Margaret from Cincinnati, Ohio, Usa: "I noticed that my eye floaters are significantly reduced after my shoulders are massaged. When I am really stressed out they get worse."
Mercury Toxicity Link
03/02/2013: Rick from Woburn, Ma: "I have read that eye floaters may be related to Mercury toxicity. If you have dental amalgams or eat a significant amount of fish, you may want to have your Mercury levels tested."
[NAY] 01/14/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, France: "A pity there aren't more people contributing to this section as there are many people suffering from eye floaters. I have tried a lot of natural remedies but nothing has worked so far, also eye therapy to lower my myopia. I have to say that I am ready to try a lot of things but the cottage cheese not really as I can't stand most milk products. I have tried MSM drops, herbs for the liver, phosphatus, cordiceps and a lot more but so far nothing made my eye floaters better. Maybe someone comes up with an answer......or more things one could try!"Replies
01/15/2010: Sandy (sandhya) from Bangalore, India replies: "Have you tried the Mini beet protocol (details on earthclinic are available)? When I tried it for 2-3 days, my eyes looked to bright and clean. I think it will help with eye issues you have. Others who used the MBP also said that their eye-balls looked clear after doing the MBP."
EC: More about the MBP here: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/mini-beet-protocol.html
12/05/2011: Julie from Toronto, Ontario / Canada replies: "For eye floaters - use the l-carnosine eye drops.
2. eye bright
there are others. Use them 4x a day or more - 2 drops in each eye - its a miracle. Then write back with your testimonial. They worked for me and I had bad floaters that made me want to cry. They are 80% gone after using the drops religiously everyday for 6 months now and I will continue praying that they will disappear one day.
After 2 weeks they had cleared up by about 50% so I know they work!"
03/28/2012: Mohib from Woodside, New York replies: "Hello Julie, First of all I want to thank you for sharing the experience you have had with these drops. Could you please tell me where to buy these drops? I would be so thankful if you provide me the link or tell me from where did you get these drops. Thanks"
[YEA] 04/20/2012: Manoj from Mumbai, India replies: "Hi , I've been trying the Can C drops- been through 1 bottle so far but no significant reduction in floaters... got them in both eyes and they're especially irritating after physical exertion and while looking at plain and monochrome surfaces like a white wall etc...Give them a shot... all the best."
[YEA] 12/30/2013: Saskia from The Netherlands: "I had flashes in the corner of my right eye too. I saw them everytime I looked to the right. It was very scary. I had an osteopathic treatment. The osteopath worked on my neck and head and the flashes were gone! It was a miracle! I think floaters and flashes have something to do with stones in the liver. One year later I drank hot ginger water as a treatment for a blocked liver and on the 11th day, I got flashes again! Luckily they weren't lasting this time. There's also a doctor in the Netherlands who claims flashes are connected with a B12 shortage."
04/30/2012: Margaret from Albany, New York: "Does anyone have any tips for getting rid of vitreous floaters in the eyes? I have several very large ones in my left eye that are obscuring my central vision. I have been checked by an ophthalmologist and they are not from a detached retina, thank goodness, but they make it difficult to see clearly and the doctors say there is no cure. Anyone had any luck?"
01/17/2012: Jean from Callaway, Ne: "Does anybody have help for eye floaters? My grandson has had them so bad since he was 7 or 8 years old, he shakes his head from side to side to see. He is 21 now. Thanks Jean"Replies
01/18/2012: Francisca from Zug, Switzerland replies: "Jean, I have eye floaters as well but not as bad as your grandson and I didn't start that young either! Are you sure that his retina is not detaching? I got a lot more when my retina started detaching! Be careful and have him go to the doctor!
That said.... Sadly enough I don't know any cure! There is an operation but the doctors are not keen to do it! I thought that if maybe I had my myopia operated they could correct that as well but floaters are much deeper than they go when they do the myopia operation. Too bad.... I have tried Milk Thistle and other supplements thinking that it had something to do with the liver but nothing helped! In my case they seem to come from a high myopia! Too bad no one finds a solution for it.... The only hope is the case of my best friend, who is almost 90 and one day a long time ago saw her floaters just disappear from a moment to the next! If they are outside of your field of vision then you don't see them!"
01/18/2012: Rob from Manhattan, New York replies: "In addition to Francisca's info. I've only come across one anecdotal report of pycnogenol helping with floaters. (on iherb) but another said it didn't help at all.. But the general protocol for eye supplements are.. Bilberry, Pycnogenol, Mixed Cartenoids with Astaxanthin, in addition perhaps Krill oil and Hyaluronic acid.. Unfortunately as Francisca says there doesn't seem to be anything definite yet to help with these.
two links here....
03/17/2012: Saurab from Kathmandu, Nepal replies: "Dear All. Floater these days can be treated with ND YAG LASER, it is safe and the doctors who are practiced can well do this procedure.. No worry.. Those doctors who have not learned this procedure says that it is not safe, because actually the general opthamologist cannot do it and need special practice. Therefore check in the internet and find out."
07/29/2012: Lorna from Brea, California replies: "To Rob... After taking fish oil, the next day, I had eye floaters. Could it be the Krill oil that you are taking?"
07/29/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi, It was interesting to look at this thread because I can't really comment on Lorna's post but the other day I was with my Chinese herbalist and he was asking my young daughter questions to decide on the herbs she needed. One was about eye floaters. My husband then said he used to have them badly. Our Chinese herbalist said they were connected to the liver function.
My husband has been taking a blend of goji and schizandra and said that since he has been doing that daily, the floaters have been tremendously reduced. Goji is very high in antioxidants and excellent for the brain and eyes. Schizandra is known as the fruit that takes care of everything- it will purify the blood if used regularly, it builds the chi, the jing and the shen and helps open all the channels to all 12 meridians. Just thought I'd give this information. Both of these fruits protect the liver and strengthen the mind. Perhaps, this gives insight regarding this issue. Lisa"
03/27/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France: "I am suffering from dry eyes, floaters and God knows what more. I found on the Internet MSM drops with colloidal silver that seem to work, also Re-Vital Eyes are eye drops containing NAC N-Acetyl-Carnosine. Has anyone on this site have any experience with this type of drops? I have to confess that I am not too confident to be putting something on my eyes bought on the Internet but I can't find any of them in the shops and the doctors don't seem to have any answers. I have tried the Castor Oil but it didn't work for me at all, my eyes got all swollen so that is not an option either. I am a bit wary to be putting Manuka Honey in the eyes. Any help would be appreciated because I really want to go on wearing contact lenses and the floater make my life quite miserable."Replies
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 08/17/2011: Diana from Nr Cardiff, Wales, uk. replies: "I have had a bad floater experience for 6 weeks. I saw an eye surgeon as I am a diabetic but she said the retina was OK, but to watch for the black curtain across the eye.
Well I tried just about all drops from the internet. All the runny ones are useless, but I found MSM SILVER and HYCO SAN EXTRA, this combination has halved the floaters in 3 days. I put the drops in regularly. The funny thing is I had a feeling that my eye was sore under the lid and in one corner, and the first time I used the MSM SILVER it felt a bit burny and I was slightly alarmed. However the next day it didn't burn at all, so perhaps the membranes were tender for some reason. Anyway I am keeping the treatment going as it is working. No mure blurry vision and I am beginning to forget about floaters. Please try it, it may work for you too."
02/13/2012: Lynn from Russellville, Arkansas replies: "Eye floaters! Mine came on out of the blue. So distracting. As for using colloidal silver, the burning mentioned is a result of infection. The reason it only happened after the first use is because of silver's ability to clear up infection. I used it immediately after I first saw my worst (and most frightning) floater and it did sting at first. I helped clear up one group of smaller ones but not this big one yet. But knowing infection is cleared is a good feeling.
I also used colloidal silver when I had a bad sinus infection that affected my eyes. They were terribly bloodshot and stinging. The silver took it away within a few hours with repeated use. I was teaching at that time and all the other teachers had dealt with the infection with drugs. So grateful my chiropractor knew of the cure because it was late on a friday night and no doctors in sight!"
10/08/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Francisca, I too suffer from dry eyes and floaters. I haven't found a solution yet for floaters but I think I have a solution for dry eyes. Yesterday when I wiped my right eye in the morning I got a sharp pain in my eye and severe burning in the eyelid. I went to qualitycounts.com and did a search for dry eye syndrome. I found a number of reports there which I read indicating relationships to omega-3 essential fatty acids dry eyes. In short, I took one tablespoon of cod liver oil, a capsul of evening primrose oil, a capsul of Salmon fish oil, I ate one half of a 3 ounce can of Salmon, I had some Black Currant jam as a substitute for Bilberry, a multivitamin & mineral tablet that contained Lutein, a vitamin E capsul and an acidodophilis capsul with milk. Today, I have no pain or burning in my eyes. The eyes are no longer red only have red blood vessels yet. My eyes feel wet with natural tears and my mouth has noticeable more siliva. It is definitely working for me. Go to the website I mentioned and do the search for dry eye syndrome and read the articles there. It works."
10/09/2013: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc replies: "Responding to Frank from Thunder Bay:
I too have been diagnosed with dry eye. And like you tried many omega oils and other remedies over the years for this problem. And am happy you got the combination that works and is giving you relief.
What worked for me was something else that seemed to be behind the problem; acidic foods especially coffee and tomato products, chilli products etc. I found when my eyes were stinging and hurting that almost without exception I remembered the two cups of coffee that morning or the salsa at the mexican restaurant for lunch.
One remedy to my acidic foods was to use baking soda (not baking powder! ); I take a quarter teaspoon in a quarter cup of water and with clean fingers just gently rub over my eyelids. Then wipe off with a napkin and reapply. The first application cleans off a residue, I think a bit grimey is how I'd describe it and believe that was from an acidic tearing coming from my eye. Then second application to eyelid and it's like magic. Suddenly the "dry eye" pain is gone.
So the oils that do seem to help some people didn't help with my dry eye problem but getting off acidic foods does and then the application of the alkaline liquid to eyelids is a tremendous relief when hurting. In fact, since discovering the "baking soda" remedy I've not had to buy eye drops for about five years."
10/09/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Further to my posting yesterday regarding a remedy for dry eye syndrome. The science behind this remedy seems to be this. The film covering the eye is made up of mucus, water and oil layers which provide the lubrication between the eye lid and the eye as well as carrying needed nutrients to the eye. Tear layers image here: http://tinyurl.com/nj24x8w Normal tears image here: http://tinyurl.com/p3fl7mr Chronic dry eyes tear image here: http://tinyurl.com/p3rqe9g.
The right kinds of oils in the diet are required to form the correct kind of oil layer that can prevent the trapped water layer from evaporating in the same way that oil floats on water. When the water layer becomes exposed and evaporates, the eyes become dry resulting in friction from eyelid movements that causes damage the cornea resulting an inflammatory response.
In Adelle Davis's book Let's Eat Right, she points out on page 91 that the water soluble vitamin B2 combines with oxygen of the air to supply the cornea with oxygen. It therefore follows, that if the water layer evaporates, vitamin B2 would not be able to perform this function even if adequately supplied in the diet, as it is a water soluble vitamin. Symptoms of vitamin B2 non-performance would be expected to be the same as vitamin B2 deficiency which include light sensitivity, confusion and difficulty performing in dim light, and bloodshot eyes as the eyes shoot out blood vessels in an effort to supply the missing oxygen. Supplementing with Omega-3 oils alpha-linolenic acid (ALA), fishoils containing docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) and eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA), or omega-6 evening primrose oil (EPO), supply the correct kind of oils to help maintain a healthy eye oil layer and/or eating fish such as tuna, salmon, mackerel, halibut, sardines or herring. Other than EPO, most omega-6 oils, such as those found in meats, most salad dressings or cooking oils, or a predominance of them in the body are conducive to and not corrective of dry eye syndrome.
A 2008 study showed that applying a .2% or .1% topical solution ALA succeeded in reversing damage done to the epithelial transparent dome covering the cornea of the eye by dry eye, and reversed dry eye syndrome and the resultant inflammatory changes it caused to the eye. Additionally, supplementing with a probiotic such as lactobacillus casei can be helpful in alleviating the severity of allergenic reactions in the mucus membranes. Lactobacillus thrive and multiply when taken with milk and fiber, if not milk intolerant, thereby increasing their effect. Further, symptoms of asthenopia is a condition that may be characterised by ocular muscle imbalance, pain and aching around the eyes, itching of the eyelids, ocular fatigue, dry eye, mental fatigue, stuffy head and headaches to cite some of the main symptoms, were significantly improved when supplements of fishoil containing DHA & EPA, bilberry extract, and lutein were given. A 2011 study found that supplementing with fishoils DHA & EPA and alpha-linolenic acid, ALA, found in flaxseed oil, significantly increased tear production and volume. Another study found that these oils inhibited inflammatory factors interlukin-1 and tumor necrosis factor alpha, promoting a healthier ocular surface and a decrease in dry eye syndrome. If you would like to read more on these studies you can find them here: Http://qualitycounts.com/fpdry_eye.htm"
[YEA] 08/05/2013: Mr. Ree from Usa: "Taurine gets rid of my floaters in one day and my eye sight improves dramatically as well.. One tablet (500) mgs/ day.. Miracle stuff."Replies
08/26/2013: Siva from Bangalore replies: "Hi Ree, this is very good news. How did u come to know that this would work? Wanted to take exactly same brand of taurine suppliment. Do we need to take any other suppliments too with this? Can you please give us some more details around it. V. taruntej (at) gmail [dot]com. Thank you."
10/15/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "FWIW, I have taken a 500 mg capsule of Taurine everyday for five days now and I don't see any noticable difference in my eye floaters so far.
I have also taken with the Taurine a 50 mg zinc gluconate tablet, a 40 mg manganese capsule, a 100 mg vitamin B6 tablet, a vitamin A&D caplsule and a lecithin capsule as these are supposed to be synergistic with Taurine."
10/15/2013: Prioris from Fl replies: "Just a suggestion. I would experiment with N-acetyl-carnosine since it addresses a broad range of eye problems and report back on the results."
05/12/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand: "EYE FLOATERS: Most of the eye floaters are organic in nature sometimes a result of excessive calcium. Therefore reduction in calcium, oily foods, and reduction in pathogens through alkalizing and chelation may reduce floaters. However, I might also consider taking more vitamin C sodium ascorbate, and some vitamin E, since vitamin C levels is quite high in the eyes and antioxidants are important."Replies
08/20/2010: Jb from Central, Maryland, Usa replies: "Floaters do not have to be permanant. I wish I could say exactly what "cured" my floaters, but they are gone. I first noticed them about seven years ago in my right eye. It wasn't too bad, a long wiggly thing and a couple of sidekick specks that would float across my sight and become a nuisance on occassion. A few years later I developed another squiggly in the left eye--not as long, but noticeable every now and then; most frequently while driving or staring at the sky. What have I done? Well, I never really went after the floaters, but I did start taking magnesium, vitamin D, and boron because I'm starting to freak out about bone loss and my body utilizing the calcium I feed it. So maybe floaters are caused by too much (unused) calcium as Ted suggested. I tried to eliminate dairy one summer as an experiment and got the heebie jeebies all over-- I wasn't supplementing my calcium at all. Really scared me, thought I'd crawl right out of my skin. Messed with my mind a bit too, my thoughts went very primal--not a good or useful experience in modern day society... Okay, I digress. I went back to eating plain yogurt and some cheese occassionally, and used a calcium supplement now and then. (I have read that the more "flesh" foods one eats, the more calcium one needs for the digestion process. )
Anyway you might want to try the daily supplements (magnesium glycinate 400 mg; vitamin D 1000 I. U. ; and Boron- 3mg) to assist your body in using calcium-- it may just work. Good Luck!"
12/04/2010: Jashan from Indianapolis, Indiana replies: "HI,
Ted, how bad were your floaters, for how long you took the supplements? Please please reply soon. I have so many floaters in my eyes and I am really trying hard to find a possible cure. Please reply soon, or email me at jashansimi(at)yahoo(dot)com."
12/05/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Jashan, I do hope Ted will answer! I have had floaters for years too.... Maybe not as bad as some other people but they are very bothersome anyway! I have tried quite a few things, mainly for the liver but nothing has worked yet. I have also tried natural eye therapy and nothing happened either! So many people suffer from this.... Funny that there isn't more research or more help! I have now ordered a book about Hyaluronic Acid, it seems to help... They say...... But with the snow in Britain it takes long for books to get here! I think that MSM is supposed to help too!"
12/05/2010: Lolly from Brooklyn, Ny replies: "Milk Thistle is good for floaters."
12/06/2010: Maria from Gippsland, Australia replies: "Some years ago I had constant floaters, the Specialist said it was because of my liver problems. So I agree with Lolly that Milk Thistle may help. I went to an amazing Chiropractor and after one treatment mine disappeared. I have since discovered that for me whenever my neck muscles tighten up I will get the odd one or two floaters but if I leave my neck untreated I get many more.
Unfortunately as we shifted I no longer have access to this man and finances do not allow for trialling the Chiropractors in my area. What we do now is my lovely hubby spends much time massaging my neck but only for a few mins at a time so as not to aggravate the already upset muscles. The fibromyalgia of course does not help. Magnesium oil rubbed into the neck also helps to relax my muscles. I have also found that taking extra vitamin C definitely helps. Vit C is also one of Ted's recomendations."
12/06/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "I have heard of that too and I have tried but it did nothing for me! Maybe other people are luckier...."
12/05/2011: Julie from Toronto, Ontario / Canada replies: "Get those l-carnisine eye drops -
1. can-c (online only)
2. Bright eyes
and there are others too. Use them constantly - my eye floaters were reduced by about 75% in the first 2 weeks - thats how much they improved my eyes. It has been 6 months of constant use - at least 8-12 drops in each eye daily - expensive but my floaters are now wispy hairs that I notice about 20% of my day when I used to notice them 80% of my day so a huge improvement in my quality of life. Forget supplements, changing your diet or looking at the full moon or the sun - ridiculous! These drops work - even though my eye doctor allowed me to try them he doesn't want to know about their success. Unless they are prescription grade with horrible chemicals and bad side effects - the medical community just doesn't want to know that these drops really work. Too bad - a lot of people would be better off but that's doctors!"
05/24/2012: Christine from East Coast, Usa replies: "I had numerous floaters but then one very large black one in each eye after a flashing light event (eye doc promised me they were only floaters). They were there for several years, very annoying. I started eating beets for something else, and noticed that every time I ate beets, the floaters became thinner and more transparent. I then increased my beet consumption big time and the floaters are almost gone. It does take a while, after all, how many beets can you eat at a time? But it really makes a difference. I put canned, drained, rinsed sliced beets in a container with a couple of dashes of ground cloves, and some red wine vinegar, and brown bag them to the office for lunch. Delicious! Another food that helps are raw green peppers. Nothing else has worked for me."
05/28/2012: Jenny from Sydney, Australia replies: "Hi I have been doing the mini beet juice for about 6 weeks and haven't noticed a huge difference. Lots of mucus but no change in energy etc. When I read your post about beets and eye floaters it made me realize that the beet juicing has helped my eye floaters and they are significantly reduced, not totally gone but heaps less. It is a yea from me for beets!"
08/10/2012: Razak from Nibong Tebal, Malaysia replies: "DO NOT take coffee and tea. I was taking coffee for few days because of fever, after that my floaters just got worse. In addition, I notice that after stopping tea, the number of floaters has reduced as well. Try STOPPING tea and coffea, and see what is the effect."
03/07/2013: Jeni Lau from Nt Australia, Australia replies: "Hi, Razak, I never drink tea, I suddenly found these funny things in my eye 3days ago. It worries me so much I accidentally found this page. So many people suffered from it. What I had been doing two days ago, I put a large table heap of dried googi berries in a cup, then pour boiling water into it, cover and let it steep for several minutes, flavour with honey and drink it. I just wonder if it had helped, as it had certainly reduced, and am going to continue with this and hope it really help. I hope I can find this page again. Good luck to all fellow sufferers."
10/09/2013: Fr from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Razak and Jeni Lau. One explanation I can think of that may make sense with regard to tea consumption and an increase in eye floaters, is that tea contains tannin. What is significant about this is that tannin can be used to treat skins in order to turn them into leather. It is my understanding that untreated skins will dissolve in water, but once they are sufficiently treated with tannin they no longer dissolve in water and are then called leather. Perhaps this is what is happening in our eyes. Soluble proteins in our eyes may be being turned into insoluble substances that we can see and that the body can't easily remove. Further, if we are daily tea drinkers or some other drink that is also rich in tannin, we may creating floaters faster than the body can remove them or we may be creating floaters the body can't remove. FWIW."
10/14/2013: Keith from Wp replies: "I got my first eye floaters almost 9 years ago. It just suddenly showed up one fine day. Over the years, the number of floaters gradually increased. I had seen several different ophthalmologists over the years, hoping to meet one that could tell me how to get rid of my floaters, but they all told me nothing could be done and that I would eventually get used to them.
About 14 months back, I decided to do my own research on the Internet. There was such a great variety of natural remedies that seemed to work for different individuals but unfortunately, there wasn't one SINGLE remedy that stood out among all the rest.
The conclusion I had to draw was that what works for some may not for others. To cut the story short, what I now believe works for floaters is, it's going to take a combination of the RIGHT methods that will give our body that extra boost it needs to get rid of floaters.
Some have been lucky enough to get rid of their floaters using just one simple product or method. But if you're like me and you've tried different things and saw no improvement, then it may be that what you need is a strategy to 'oil the rusty parts' of the body so to speak, to get it to slowly clear the floaters away.
The strategy that has worked for me is this;
1. Consume foods or supplements that are generally known to have healing powers on the eye.
2. Use eye drops that can reduce oxidative stress. Oxidative stress is a known cause of some of the more commonly known eye diseases such as cataract, glaucoma and AMD.
3. Replace activities that cause stress with activities that reduce stress.
Best Regards, Keith"
Vitamin C, Pantothenic Acid (B5)
[YEA] 09/03/2010: Pro8688 from Southcentral, Nj: "Eye Floaters: Taking 1000mg of Vitamin C in the form of Magnesium Ascorbate works for me, as does Pantothenic Acid in the form of 'Pantethine', 450mg occasionally, as needed. Adelle Davis, in her book 'Let's Get Well' p. 351-352 recommends both the above and along with Vit. B2 and B6."Replies
09/04/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Thanks Pro8688, all the information on eye floaters is very welcome because there isn't much on this very irritating problem! I had a look at the reviews on Adelle's book on the Internet but she seems to be quite controversial and the book is quite old, do you find it a useful read? I also suffer from allergies and she seems to talk about that as well..."
[YEA] 08/05/2013: Sharon from Tampa replies: "l have used Adelle Davis' book for many years, and the information in it has helped me tremendously to avoid a lot of problems suffered by most people. I used it successfully in my 3 pregnancies as well, and everything she says is true, except using potassium for colic in infants. The reason it is controversial is that nobody wants to know that they can successfully stay healthy by eating properly and getting the correct nutrition, especially your physicians, who need you to be sick to make money. She has some quick fixes as well as long term fixes for most health problems. My favorite book is "let's have healthy children". I found online, an attorneys statement that 2 families tried to sue her when they erroneously tried something in her books that clearly were not suggested as remedies, just after notes of interest. One other of the families had given their small child 1 million units of Vitamin A daily. They settled out of court for small amounts.. Most of her ideas were harmless unless carried to extremes. She died at age 70 with bone cancer, and people immediately fixated on this, never mind that she lived to be 70."
08/06/2013: John from Boston replies: "Hi Sharon, I also have an Adele Davis book that I bought in about 1970. It's "Let's Eat Right to Stay Fit. " I have referred to it as recent as last week. The pages of my book are yellow it's so old. If something worked 40 years ago it still will work today... The book has everything in it... I have read it many times.. Much much information... She was many many years ahead of her time.. A brilliant lady... God Bless her.."
10/09/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Francisca, Sharon and John. I also have used Adelle Davis' books Let's Eat Right and Let's Get Well for at least 30 years and have found solutions to many health problems through them. The way I have come to look at our bodies is that they are biological machines and like any machine require certain things to operate properly. I we look at a car and you didn't have gas in the tank, or water in the radiator, or air in the tires, etc. , you'd have problems. The same is true of our bodies. If you don't have vitamin B1 you get beri beri. If you don't get vitamin A you go blind. If you don't have enough vitamin C you get scurvy. In fact, a vitamin can't be classed as a vitamin unless it can be demonstrated that you'll get some specific disease without it. Similarly, minerals play an important role in our bodies. Without iodine your thyroid gland can't produce thyroxin. Without iron your body can't produce hemoglobin. And sodium and potassium play an important role in maintaining the proper balance in bodily fluids, transport of substances into and out of cells as well as energy production and messaging in the body. In short, our bodies are a tremendous conglomerate of many systems that make use of many chemicals and minerals in the fulfillment of their functions. The reason I mention these things is that Adelle Davis among other things held a Masters of Science Degree in Biochemistry. As a result, she was able to gain unique incites into how the body functions and what illnesses might result from the deficiency of an essential nutrient necessary to a certain body function. And, if you reverse that she was often able to see that certain illnesses were the likely result of some nutrient deficiency. Adelle didn't have all the answers and the knowledge of biochemistry is increasing very quickly, but if a scientific fact was really true back then, it will still be true today like water will always be H20. After I read Adelle Davis' Let's Eat Right, I was hooked. It explained in simple understandable language the effects of so many nutrients and their functions within the body. Ever since, I have been a student of nutrition and I don't just accept things like there's no cure for dry eyes of eye floaters like my optometrist said a week ago. I seem to have already found a solution to my dry eye problem and am reading this forum looking for ideas on eye floaters. I have often found that it is like detective work. You just keep searching and reading. And, you pick up a clue here and a clue there until you get and understanding of the problem and then hopefully a solution. I believe Adelle Davis' Let's Eat Right should be read by everyone. It's not all knowing but a great place for anyone to start their researches. IMHO."
10/09/2013: Debbie from Australia replies: "I do not agree that if something worked 40 or even 30 years ago it will work today.
Our food is being modified at an alarming rate. More GM foods are being released into the food supply and goodness knows what effect that is having on our bodies. MSG and Aspartame are more rampant in food today. Fluoride, chlorine in our water supply.. Etc. etc.
To be healthy today you really need to stay away from processed foods and GMO foods.
Wheat has also been modified so much that people are putting on huge amounts of weight and are getting sicker and sicker. Research modified wheat and weight gain or illnesses. Research amazing health turnarounds in people going gluten free today.
Wheat also raises your sugar levels more than sugar and candy bars, may raise blood pressure and even cause arthritis.
What we ate 30 or 40 years ago may not be the same foods today. Look at the autism rates and ADHD rates in kids."
10/10/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Debbie. The chemistry doesn't change but the chemicals can. 2 parts hydrogen will always combine with 1 part oxygen to produce water, H2O and vice versa. But, while the chemistry of water doesn't change the quality of that water can and does change. Today we must be wary of where that water comes from and what's in it. The water may be stagnant with a high bacterial count, or it could be polluted with chemicals from industries, etc. I am fortunate where I live, about 400 miles from the closest major city to be able to buy local spring water for drinking rather than Lake superior water delivered in the house taps. We buy or meats from the local Abattoir or local farmers not the super market. And, our local farmers do not use growth hormones nor are the animals grain feed. The animals are free range fed. The same with our chickens and eggs. We buy our milk also from the local dairy not the super market. Our sausages come from local suppliers also. When we buy canned fish we buy wild brands not farm fed fish. Our oils come from the local health food store and we are careful about how they are processed, such as cold pressed, in nitrogen atmosphere where appropriate, virgin and properly refrigerated if appropriate. We never but commercial oils sold in the super markets as per Dr. Johanna Budwig. We are careful when shopping not to buy products that have preservatives in them or are genetically modified. Our rule is not to buy anything processed more than once, because that enables producers to bury the facts about ingredients used in the preparations. We buy no frankenfoods such as McDonalds milk shakes that don't contain any milk. Or snacks scientifically engineered to appeal to your taste buds with regard to the balance of fats, sugars and salts. Speaking of salts as table salts we use Andean, Himalayan and sea salts for their natural mineral content that we mix half and half with potassium salt so as to balance to balance out their sodium content. We eat little wheat but what we do is whole wheat. Our bread is mostly rye bread made at the local bakers that contains no preservatives and we keep it in the fridge with the milk. We eat a fair amount of rice, but only brown rice for the fiber content as well. Our ideal is to try and eat like our grand parents did 100 yrs ago. Our meals are meat/fish and vegetables not Kraft dinners or the latest quick fix franken meal from the Superetta. While visiting a local mall recently I was amazed at the condition of the young people are in. One point there were six young women walking ahead of me. They looked like a herd of elephants sauntering along. They were all 2.3 to 3 across the behinds. I almost seemed that it would be easier for them to roll along than to walk. When I was in high school there was only 1 to 3 fat people in the student body and they had a thyroid problem or something. Today governments want to go after the fast food shops over the condition of the young people. While that may well be justified, but it is only part of the problem. They should also ban the franken foods and commercially produced oils as well. When I was young, it was a fast half hour walk to school and another 15 minute walk each way to and from restaurant for lunch. And then in the evening after your home work was done it was a 20 minute walk to a cafe' where we danced to music on the juke box or half hour walk each way to go down town. In short, we used our bodies as intended to get us around burning a lot of calories both from the exercise but also to keep ourselves warm. Imagine how many calories we burned up over the years. We also ate heartily with burgers and french fries with grave and cokes but we burned it all off with walking, playing sports, dancing and keeping our bodies warm through exposure to the cold Today our children are bussed to school from day one and entertain themselves with video games, movies and TV two of which we didn't have when I was young. I walk each Saturday and Sunday morning 3. 5 miles each day for a total of 7 miles a week. Recently a friend of mine and my son offered to walk with me. When I walk, I walk up a hill and down again 3 cycles for a total of 3. 5 miles. This young man had trouble keeping up and had to quit after one cycle and he is a practitioner of mixed martial arts. The young people today do not think of walking for exercise or to get around. It's foreign to them. I agree with you that food buying today is a mine field. You have to read the labels of what you buy for preservatives and GMOs. People need learn to buy the best and leave the rest. I feel sorry for people living in today's megalopolises, where there air is toxic to breath and may be counter productive to walk or exercise in it, where they may have little choice food wise other than the super market's commercially processed and franken foods or a fast food restaurant because mom is too tired after working all day to slave over a stove to prepare a healthful meal of basic food. Every generation has had its dejour. I my day it was polio today it's cancer and like you say Autism and ADHD. I believe it is a violation of a person's basic fundamental rights to require children before they are old enough to concent to have vaccines or they can't be educated but it seems to go hand in glove with the current drift away from democracy and basic human rights toward control, totalitarianism, despotism and voiding of concerns for the individual. In short, not only are the young not being given to opportunity to have clean unadulterated foods and water, but they are not being taught the need to be judicious in purchasing of foods. They are not being educated with regard the need to avoid preservatives, GMOs, and commercially prepared franken foods. They also don't know what basic unadulterated foods are and what healthy meals should consist of. Neither are they being taught the importance of clean water without the chemicals deposited in the water by leaving plastic water bottles in the sun; nor the importance of regular exercise in order to live healthily. I realize that I am blessed with where I live and the resources I have available to me that not everyone has. But, the task today is for people to educate themselves so that they know what healthy foods and water are and to seek out good sources of them. People should also strive to understand what various nutrients are and the functions they perform in the body and how to eat healthily. To that end, Let's Eat Right by Adelle Davis is a great starting point for their studies. Also, we need to realize that our bodies during our evolution were kinetic and did not leave us disposed for a sedentary lifestyle. JMHOFWIW."
10/10/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "I apologize to all for how my above post came out as one long paragraph. I typed it up in MS Word and copied it over. I should have checked it before posting but it lost all the breaks between paragraphs in the process. Sorry."
10/10/2013: Debbie from Australia replies: "Wow, John you are certainly well informed and eating everything right. You are so lucky to be living where you are where you have access to such great food. It sounds like a good book.
I have a farmers market near me. The guy that was selling oranges had no idea that roundup was a deadly thing to spray on the roots of his orange trees. Even the apple seller was using Roundup at the base of his apple trees. Roundup takes minerals out of the soil and the plants in it which we then eat. I used to use roundup myself until I found it is a Montsanto toxin. Deadly in our soils. The organic eggs I was buying, the hens were being fed grains. I am thinking of buy a laying hen and feed it herbs.
You are right that kids today should be educated about food. I myself am learning new things every day. Thank goodness for the internet.
Do you eat any fresh herbs? That would be a good thing to add to what you are eating. A few herbs that I recommend if you can get them are Gotu Kola and Brahmi. They are both Ayurvedic herbs and are renowned in India as being longevity herbs as well as amazing for the brain (can reverse many brain ailments). They are blood purifiers also. The Gotu Kola can reverse arthritis and clear the arteries.. And many, many other amazing stuff. Another herb which is amazing is Herb Robert if you can find some, especially as a blood purifier and for cancer. The Gotu Kola you can even use like they do in Sri Lanka in a fresh salad every day. If you grow it fresh it grows very fast and you can access to free salad greens every day.
Stinging Nettles is also considered a weed but are a great source of calcium which is organic unlike calcium in pasteurized milk which is inorganic (because of heat) and unavailable to the body. Raw milk is definitely better if you can buy it.
People buy a lot of herbs in a bottle these days but forget that they are usually very easy to grow and won't have additives in them like the bottled ones do. Also you don't know if the seeds in supplement herbs were even organic seeds not or treated with something.
Herbs that you grow are cheap and an easy source of vitamins and minerals and have no pesticides in them). You can also dry them in the good months and have them as a tea or even sprinkle the dry herbs in cooking over the winter.
Even Dandelion leaf is great in a salad and is a good source of magnesium as well as other minerals.
We also need to be saving our non-hybrid seeds for future generations.
I feel very worried about uninformed kids of today and what their lives will be like. In Australia we are seeing more and more overweight kids and adults.
I will seek out the book you are recommending because it sounds like a good book to have on the shelf. I am buying books so my son can access some education about our foods today."
10/10/2013: Frank from Thunder Bay, On replies: "Hi Debbie. Adelle Davis books are out of print now but you can still get them from Amazon.com as used books. Also, for some incite into why our children are so over weight, look into Dr. Johanna Budwig. Food oils are nutrients that the body uses but commercial oil production removes everything useable from the oils so that they have a long shelf life and don't go rancid. But in so doing, the oils can no longer be used or burned in the body and so just accumulate in the body. Budwig explains all this and the information is probably available on the internet. I have all three of her books that were translated into English.
Dr. Budwig was a phd in physics and chemistry, a pharmacist and was studying to be a doctor when her clash with the commercial oil industry caused her to relent from trying to be a doctor. Dr. Budwig was the person who you had to submit your products and science to in Germany in 1950-1951 for approval to sell them to the public. She was Germany's FDA. She had laboratory facilities available to her to do whatever tests were necessary. She was a brilliant lady and made several important discoveries. But, some of the discoveries she made brought her into conflict with the medical, chemical, and food oil industries. She was nominated something like 7 to 9 times for the Nobel Prize supported by about 90 other scientists but the medical, chemical and food oil industries suppressed her nomination each time and continually pursued her in the courts on one charge after another to impoverish and punish her for speaking her mind but she won all of the cases. They also prevented her from publishing her findings in scientific journals, so she published them in books instead. They then prevented the books being translated out of German. Only recently have a few of her works begun to be translated into English. I think she wrote about 27 books but only 3 have been translated into English. Her story is most interesting and would make a great movie.
Regarding herbs I haven't done much because it comes down to which herb grown where. For instance, they say bananas are a good source of potassium but is that true if the banana is grown in potassium soil? So a herb may supposed to have a certain property but then where is the testing to prove it is actually so. So, I have tended to stick to things where studies have been done to demonstrate the efficacy of it. If I can find such studies done on herbs then I would use that herb for the stated purpose. However, I can make a killer salad. :) Other than for Dandelion I don't think the other herbs you mention would be available to me here. They sound quite tropical. I hear what you say about the seeds. I heard recently that they have extended immunity from prosecution to Monsanto. I wonder why? ;)"