Omega 3 Cures

| Modified on Aug 11, 2022
Fish Oil and Skin
Posted by Art (California) on 07/31/2022 2147 posts
★★★★★

In early June of 2022, I was having a conversation with a friend who I was already working with to try and resolve hyperpigmentation issues of her skin. Progress was slow and she was asking about different supplements that might be helpful. She mentioned that she was taking fish oil (FO) and it didn't seem to be too helpful, even though she had been taking it for years.

I asked her how many milligrams of FO she was taking. She mentioned that she was taking a 1000 milligrams a day of combined DHA/EPA. I mentioned that that might not be the optimal dose for her based on effective dosages used in studies of FO in humans and suggested she consider upping her dose to study levels of EPA/DHA of 3 to 4 grams per day in order to optimize the benefit to her skin and heart. This would be 3 to 4 times the amount she was already taking. It is the total amount of EPA/DHA in a given FO soft gel that is important, not the total amount of different oils. So even though a FO soft gel may say 1200 mg, the actual EPA/DHA level may only be half that amount. It is important to read the label carefully to know what you are really getting.

Obviously the heart benefit will not be readily apparent other than through testing, but I told her that any additional benefit to her skin should be readily apparent within two months or so. I also reminded her that FO at therapeutic dosing such as she was now taking can absolutely have blood thinning effects and as such she should notify her doctor and have him/her add that information to her medical records for safety. I further told her that the high dose FO, because of its anti inflammatory effects should be additionally beneficial to her anti hyperpigmentation regimen as localized inflammation is a contributing factor to skin hyperpigmentation.

This past week, my friend texted me to update me on how she was doing as it was approaching the 2 month mark at her new increased FO dosing level. She said the following, it appears to be additive to her anti hyperpigmentation regimen as she could see increased fading of dark spots which she said had previously slowed to a crawl and she felt that if the current rate of lightening continued she might be "clear" in 3 months or so. She further said that the increased FO dosing schedule had eliminated "all of her dry skin" issues which she said had been a major problem for her for years. She went on to say that "stretch marks, keratosis and scars" that she has had for years had either faded, significantly diminished or both.

Overall she was very happy and looking forward to continued improvements and she said the improvements are helping her to diligently stick to her current regimen with no slacking. I told her that was good that she is applying her regimen consistently because that is needed in order to obtain the results she is getting and wants.

She told me she would update me later and when she does I will update this thread to update on her progress.

I know this is not of very much importance to many people, but it does offer a significant boost to her self esteem which, imo, is very important in trying to improve your overall quality of life, plus the added health benefit that the therapeutic FO dose is having to her heart is great, especially as we age! It is important to highlight the benefits of FO at useful dosing levels as many studies spotlight a multitude of health effects associated with sufficient intake of EPA/DHA, even for the brain!

Art

Constipation
Posted by Charity (Faithville, Us) on 09/12/2018

Ray Peat has some very insightful arguments with scientific data to encourage people not to use fish oil supplements if you want the research information on the topic.


Constipation
Posted by Jon (Wheeling, Wv) on 09/12/2018

I am reading conflicting reports as to the benefits of Omega 3's. I am a picky eater and do not eat much fish. I would like to take supplements to protect my body. I have seen Omega's advertised that are supposed to be "pure" and in blister packs for freshness. You have to sign up to have shipped every month. I tend to stay away from those type of products. It is very hard to navigate the web to find a good yet cost effective brand to buy. Do you know of any reputable sites that I could check?


Dogs
Posted by Lula (Australia) on 11/04/2016

Please be careful supplementing your dog - if you are feeding flax, you "must" feed vitamin e, (natural), which has the role of stopping fats becoming rancid in the body. It is a long story, but I found out the hard way :(


Fish Oil
Posted by J (Canada) on 01/12/2015

Hi Rebel, that just means it is the kind of fish oil capsule that has an enteric coating on it. This coating (often synthetic but can be found plant based) is resistant to acidity and therefore can't be broken down in the stomach. So it passes through into the intestines, where it finally breaks down in the non-acidic neutral conditions there and is absorbed.


Fish Oil
Posted by Rebel (Somewhere, Usa) on 09/07/2014

Hello all. My mother goes to church with a lady, that is having some real bad problems right now. I am not sure what all is going on, but she took the midi doc route. Believe it or not the medical doctor actually told her she needs to take Fish Oil that dissolves in the intestines and not the stomach. She forgot to ask him what type that was.

I was hoping maybe some of you Fish Oil people may know the kind, not so much brand. But the kind that will dissolve after it is in the intestines and not the stomach.

Thank you.

Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Deborah (Riverview, Fl.) on 06/02/2014

Bill, that was very interesting. I've done the diets for two years and went from 100 pounds to 86. After reading Pleomorphism 2 I don't know if I can clean my blood, because I have spherocytosis and a splenectomy in 1972. But I'm going to keep doing the turp and dmso. Thank you for the information. Bless you!


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 06/01/2014

Hi Deborah...Although I would completely agree with what Dave says about viruses, I think that it is a much worse situation and much more complicated than that. Viruses ore only part of the story in other words.

From the research, there are certain traits and behaviours that pathogens have that are adaptive, self-protective mechanisms against the host organism. These adaptations are superb defense mechanisms for survival of the pathogen which I shall describe a bit later.

This is the situation with modern medicine and this his the strategy they use to invent their drugs: They currently still believe in the old Pasteurian concept of The Germ Theory. This translates to One Germ-->One Disease-->One Cure.

Therefore, the actual strategy of the FDA and drugs companies for immune disease drug formulation better translates to One Drug-->One Disease-->One Cure. Why? Because, according to the rules of the FDA, you must prove the efficacy and safety of only one drug against one disease. You cannot, say, use a single herb for this testing because you are not allowed to research more than one single chemical -- and there are just too many chemicals in a herb to make it economically viable. And how do you standardize the chemicals in a herb to prevent variance of dose? And you cannot patent herbs or patent any chemicas that occur naturally in nature.

But this drugs strategy description quite obviously does not work or consistently cure either idiopathic or autoimmune diseases like cancer, arthritis, diabetes, heart disease etc according to the independent research because these sorts of diseases usually always involve more than one pathogen species(eg viruses, fungus and bacteria are different pathogen species).

Wrt these autoimmune and idiopathic diseases, the real truth of the matter is that you will have to apply this strategy for a cure: Autoimmune Disease -->Multi-Infection from different pathogen species -->Multi-Protocols-->Cure.

So can anyone see how dire and hopeless the current drug strategy approach is for making drugs for curing autoimmune and idiopathic disease?

The main treatment approach used by the drugs companies is therefore usually completely palliative -- just treat the symptoms. And they deliberately design drugs like this because it generates far more profit if a patient(consumer?) takes these non-cure pills for the rest of their life. We also completely believe these doctors and drugs companies because, due to their superb propaganda advertising machine, most of us regard them as the honest(????) experts (sic).

So when you see for yourself, through independent research(not drugs company research), that that these autoimmune diseases do indeed regularly involve multi-pathogens that modern medicine deliberately ignores or simply cannot admit to or cope with, you inevitably come to the view that the drugs strategy and drugs-making approach itself are so hopelessly steered(for profit), inadequate and all wrong. That's why the word 'cure' doesn't come into the equation particularly for autoimmune or idiopathic disease drugs treatment or outcomes.

Now back to the adaptive mechanisms of pathogens for some more horror. Pleomorphism is well known in research. There several different types of pleomorphism(all proven through research).

First, an organism that can change form and function within its species. Candida is an example of this behaviour. Due to phenotypic switching, candida can change itself from being a yeast(saprophyte -- eats dead organic matter) to a true fungal parasite(feeds directly off the host). So when you have candida -- you may well have to defeat the candida both locally(yeast form) ie intestines, uterus, skin etc as well as defeat candida in the blood, tissues and organs as the fungal or systemic form.

Now to inter-species pathogen switching -- switching from being a bacteria to a virus to a fungus and back again, which is another form of pleomorphism.

Then we have the mycoplasma (tiny CWD bacteria), H Pylori(bacteria), Hepatitis B and all those other dangerous viruses(HPV, HHV, EBV, CMV, Parvo virus) which all tend to cause various forms of autoimmune disease as well as cancer.

Mycoplasma, as well as other forms of bacteria and plasmodium are also usually always involved in arthritis for instance. In these different forms of autoimmune disease it would therefore appear to me that pleomorphism plays a huge part too.

Thus I would say that viruses are certainly a good part of the autoimmune story but pleomorphism is another recognized part -- which continues to be completely unrecognized and even ignored by the drugs companies and the FDA -- despite all the research evidence(that I've seen) which supports both phenotypic switchng within a species and inter-species pleomorphism that occurs in autoimmune disease today.

Consequently, that is why both modern medicine and the drugs companies have no adequate strategy solution or drug treatment that can actually consistently cure any autoimmune disease today.

Pleomorphism 1

Pleomorphism 2


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 06/01/2014

To Deborah,

Re Calcium AEP,

There are other forms of AEP...Magnesium AEP being one that should take away concerns that the Calcium form may add to the stone issue. I've had 4 stones in the past eight years. I take Cal AEP every day and see no correlation. But every person's body may differ on this subject. Consider taking the Mag form.

And you ask if Live Cell Microscopy can differentiate between a virus and a fungus. I believe so, as my questions to my LCM expert discussed that very thing as we looked at my blood. The virus is much smaller, and I don't think he was seeing actual viruses but I'll re ask the question. Certainly what could be seen were the fungi themselves.


Neuropathy
Posted by Patricia (North Carolina, US) on 06/01/2014

I have been taking Natural Barley pills for the past 2 years. Does not rid me of Neuropathy, but I have no pain, tingling, or burning. I do not take any other medication.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Deborah (Riverview, Fl.) on 06/01/2014

I'm sorry Dave, I meant would the calcium in the AEP cause more stones? I tried lemons, but my bladder couldn't take them, Because of the IC. I do ACV and chanca piedra, don't know if they have gotten smaller, but my back seldom hurts. With the Live cell microsopy can they tell the difference between the virus and fungi?

Thanks so much, Deb


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 05/31/2014

Hello Deborah from Riverview;

Re: All your symptoms and RA and kidney stones etc.

All your mono and shots from my perspective (high likelihood) were the set up for your auto immune condition...there is an underlying cause...Virus in your system weakening the immune system. Or worse; virus Causing/or triggering the condition. That's my theory. And after watching the Dr. Tent link...like you find his view at least corresponds and reinforces my thesis. So what I do is load up with an anti-virus substance. I drink Colloidal Silver three times daily. (I had taken the CS only four or five times a week.) I started doing that much only in the past two months after a live cell microscopy revealed a higher than normal level of fungi shown in my blood. But if the four or five times a week was not enough to kill fungi, then it was also likely not to be enough to kill viruses.

Next, does the AEP help with kidney stones? I don't think so. I use six lemons daily, one half in a glass of water, and drink...twelve glasses daily for two weeks to knock out stones. Works for me great. Make sure to use a straw; the lemon will impact tooth enamel.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Deborah (Riverview, Fl.) on 05/31/2014

This is to Bill and Dave. Dr. Tents video really hit home with me. I always wondered WHY did I get RA! If I don't know why, then I can't fix it or make it better. When I was 11 (61) I went to Germany with my mother and her husband. Had lots of shots. Got Mono twice over there. In 1979 went back to Germany, with my husband, more shots. In 79 got RA. Now after 35 years of antibiotics and all of the RA drugs, which the FDA says causes fungal infections, but doctors don't beleive, I not better. Back in the 80's I ask my rheumatologist, would you give these drugs to your child or mother? He got very mad at me, but wouldn't answer me. Thats when I learned he works for the drug company, not me.

So now I take lots of fish oil, DMSO, turp., borax and some other things.

Dave, I have kidney stones too, would the AEP calcium be ok? I never knew about AEP before and I see there is even a magnesium.

And if the RA wasn't enough, I have interstitial cystitis too, which I think fungus has gotten into the bladder and causes it.

To all the Germans, I love the people and country. If I could walk I'd go back in a second. Please don't think I blame Germany.

Love to all!


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/30/2014

Hi Dave...What I took away from Dr Tent's video was that people of my generation (people over 50 or 60 y o) are all ticking health bombs.

I had the polio vaccine as a young lad in the early 60s. So I've had all those animal viruses from the monkey kidneys already put into my body at a young age -- and, unfortunately, they are still there in my body all these years later just waiting to be triggered.

I think that what was, perhaps, the most important part of his talk was at the end where he described many of his patient's problems and symptoms. I noticed that every single one of his patients had some combination of just EBV, HHV(6 strains), CMV or Parvo virus. These are all effectively the animal viruses that were introduced into our bodies via the polio vaccine we all had 50 or so years ago. And they are all still inside us right now, hiding, waiting to be triggered to give us some horrific autoimmune disease like cancer.

So our generation has a ticking health bomb inside them and as Dr Kent admitted -- people over 50 or 60 y o are all screwed. These viruses are all inside my generation -- who all had the 'dirty' polio vaccine.

Regarding CS competing with other mineral pathways -- just taking your minerals in organic or amino chelate forms would avoid that problem.

If you took all your minerals in their inorganic form(eg as Magnesium Chloride) then they would perhaps compete with CS. But, say, if you took the chelated or organic forms eg magnesium citrate or mag gluconate then these forms should all be absorbed via different organic or amino pathways without competitive problems.

Also it really depends where you want the CS to act in the body and this will depend how you supplement it. If you take CS on an empty stomach it will likely be rapidly absorbed into the blood from the stomach. Useful if you want to rapidly kill blood born pathogens. But if you take it with food then more CS will get carried into the intestines with the food -- which would seem more useful, therefore, to kill bad bacteria and candida in the intestines itself.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 05/30/2014

Hello Bill from the Philippines;

I watched the link video.

And the "bonus video" at the end was amazing.

Well, apart from the conspiratorial aspect Dr Tent inserts (which I thought was confusing)...the theory; a viral link to the explosion of cancer ... is impressive.

The usage of anti-virals becomes a top priority. And PREVENTION before cancer is essential. I'm now taking Colloidal Silver three times daily apart from meals and other vitamins/minerals.

I did notice from one of your (always) informative posts, that taken on an empty stomach the anti candida supplement would deliver it to the blood stream but would not get the substance to the intestines. So would you recommend that the CS be taken both with occasional meals AND on an empty stomach? I've been recommending the CS apart from taking other supplements because mineral supplementation would compete for receptor sites with the CS. Do you have an opinion on that competition issue?


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/30/2014

And here's something interesting. Dave from Fountain Inn has already mentioned that he has a fascination for viruses.

So this one's for you Dave.

I just thought that I'ld show this video. It's not particularly complicated or technical, it's just a historically accurate evidence-based record of why there is such an epidemic of autoimmune diseases today -- providing cogent reasons, for instance, why cancer is far more of a generational epidemic today than in the time of your grandparents. And the real reasons for this are quite shocking.

Remember those polio vaccine sugar cubes in the 1950s and 1960s ?

Have you ever heard of the SV-40 virus?

Remember SIV (Simian Immuno-deficiency virus) ?

Remember HIV ?

The video is all about viruses, autoimmune disease and vaccines.

But its really much worse than that. Please watch the video...

Reasons for the Autoimmune Disease Explosion


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/29/2014

Hi Robert Henry...My fault and much thanks for setting me square with that. I'll have to use my eyes in focus next time and learn your southern code better for sure. The cheesebread and beer I can understand -- I spent 7 years in Germany with H M Forces in the '70s and 80s. But there's still no excuse for me not understanding the southern-speak. In the mid-80s I spent a year doing an electronics job where my patch was a line drawn down from North Dakota to Texas. I was responsible for all equipment east of that line. Went to the South alot, very friendly people too. There's something quite special about a southern barbecue party...but that was a long time ago.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 05/28/2014

Bill and Dave,

I think your book title ideas are great!

One of the first books I read that gave me some confidence in considering alternative options was, "How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor, " By Robert Mendelsohn. He also wrote, "Confessions of a Medical Heretic, " and I believe the other title was, "Male Practice: How Doctor's Manipulate Women." Mendelsohn was a pediatrician, and an "insider" in the medical community, and that was many years ago.

Keep up the great work, guys!

~Mama to Many~


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn. ) on 05/28/2014

HI U BILL, , , , , , , , , , , , ,

I messed you up big time. I am familiar with the fruit, Paw Paw, but down here in the Sweat South some folks refer to their Grandfather as their Paw Paw. That is what we called our grandfather.

Southern is my first language , English is my second and I can order a Kase Brote un glas bier in broken German.

========OLE ROBERT HENRY=============


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 05/28/2014

Bill, two questions about the Graviola:

1. Would Chirimoya work the same way? They are similar fruits.

2. Do Papaya Leaf Teas work the same as Graviola Leaf Teas?

Thanks.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 05/28/2014

To Bill from the Philippines:

Re: The New Bill Thompson Coming Attraction...

I LIKE the proposed title. You ask if it's is too extreme...but to get folks' attention doesn't one have to use hyperbole? "How Not to Think Like A Doctor"...yes. Or; "Prescription for Disaster...What Your Doctor Gives You Can Make You Sick" ... or; "America...Induced Illness"...?

What I like about your writing is that it is so precise and to the point. So I'll definitely be a repeat reader.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/28/2014

Hi Dave...Much thanks again for all the praise and I'm very glad that you're enjoying the candida book. I must admit to having a secret mission writing that book -- my mission was try to change how people think about their illness or disease in order to to enable a more optimistic "Let's cure it" mentality rather than just a "Hey, let's just treat the symptoms" or "Yeah, lets trash your immune system with excessive ribovarin and interferon and see how that works out" mentality which seems to so sadly pervade allopathic thinking these days. And like I keep saying -- above all and no matter what the medical outcome, a great money stream for modern medicine. Meanwhile the patient, if he or she cannot afford the insurance, will have to sell their house, car, dog, cat and budgie to pay for the treatment. This isn't really progress is it? Progress for who? Very strange indeed that modern medicine is so obviously not a performance related profession regarding patient outcomes but rather more a drug sale related profession, don't you think? And so it's much more accurate to call us ordinary consumers rather than patients I'm thinking. Doctor? Drugs salesman? What's the difference?

Regarding the book that you think I should write. I had a brainstorming session while furiously supping some delicious local Barako mountain coffee this afternoon and I came up with this promising title: How Not to Think Like a Doctor. What do you think? Too extreme ? Pros and Cons?


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/28/2014

Hi Robert Henry...Thanks for what you said. And yes, all that medical shareholder politics does tend to prickle my asterbar somewhat which sometimes gets me angry and frustrated.

Just to mention that I'm also growing Paw-Paw in my garden too. We planted ten Paw-Paws(Graviola) from seed in our wee garden about three months ago. They're only about one foot high and quite cute but its hot season right now with little water. Hopefully they will happily start reaching up to the sky come wet season. These will eventually bloom into small trees. Their fruit is the size of a football and one of my all-time favourites because it has such a unique and refreshing flavour. Difficult to make the fruit drink because you have to physically squeeze, pop and pick out the many large dark seeds from all the bulky white flesh -- kinda messy. But I'm just as interested in the Paw-Paw leaves -- contains acetogenins and other beneficial chemicals -- which are a cancer cure and I'm sure you know all about that.

I also have a humble favour to ask. Can you please describe how you render and use your Paw-Paw leaf? What do you use it for? I'm always on the look-out for useful herbal remedies and I'm sure most people here on EC would be interested in that remedy too.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 05/27/2014

Hello Bill from the Philippines;

Again your Post was one of the classics on the reality we face dealing with the FDA et al.

I'm reading your "Killing so Sweetly" now. A great book. Everyone should read it. And I really mean what I said this morning after reading your Post; you should write a book on the Post subject matter you put up this AM.

As for my Papaya experiment...a problem...

well actually an "Intervention" took place that has slowed down my experiments. I'll explain fully to anyone who wishes to hear the traumas of how "science" can be waylaid by well meaning "family and friends"...quite embarrassing. I had just completed my formula for "Wasabi- Papaya Ice Cream" ... a real culinary breakthrough and one evening my Cousin Bob (self proclaimed head of the family) dropped by with Bubba, my auto mechanic.

"We've come by to talk to you about this Papaya nonsense, " pronounced Bob.

"Well have a seat, Bob...Bubba. What's this about?"

"This...this is an Intervention...like obsessive people have happen to them and you, Dave need to be rescued. Just look at you. You've gained 30 pounds since you started this Papaya nonsense. And "Wasabi-Papaya Ice Cream"...Ha! All this Papaya stuff is just an excuse to gorge yourself with anything and pop Papaya on the end and that justifies your excess. And you have the temerity to call this Science! "

Well, I look at my wife, hoping for some support. She stares back at me with a slight smile on her face.

"No way have I gained 30 pounds; maybe 5 or 6..." My ever supportive wife clears her throat..."Ok, " I continue, "Maybe 10 or 15 but not..."

"So..." Bob interrupted, "We've gathered all your friends and family to intervene...to stop your charade ... this .....this sham."

"What...all my friends? It's just you and Bubba."

"That's what I said, all your friends. We're all here ... here for you."

Well, Bill. I won't go any further into that painful experience. To endure the slings and arrows of men...you know. Or maybe you don't. Just be careful working with "Papaya" because it apparently inflames the passions of jealous minded people. But a real set back for Science. I'm not defeated. No. Just down for the moment.

Thanks for thinking to ask.

Dave


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn. ) on 05/27/2014

HI U BILL, , , , , , , , , , , , And all this time, I thought I was the last angry man. Our daughter is forever chastising us for spending too much time working our garden. I see the professional farmers using round-up and GMO seeds and want none of that, so we grow almost everything we eat. We do coconut oil as you, but my Ole Mississippi Paw Paw lived to be 88 and sopped his biscuit with bacon grease. I don't do that , but I do buy leaf lard and render it on the back stoop in a crock pot. Ten pounds last us about 2 years.

Know our E. C. boss's don't like political statements. Health these days is nothing but politics and you presented a very good case. I tip my hat.

=========OLE ROBERT HENRY==============


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Om (Hope, Bc. Canada) on 05/27/2014

Bill from San Fernando --- from Om, many thanks for your post. For the life of me I can't understand why people run to the chemical doctors. Two of my friends walked into the trap. After financial ruin, they died.

I think television is a mind fixing tool that steals the soul . Namaste, Om


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/27/2014

Much thanks for your kind comments, Dave. I guess what it all boils down to is who do you really believe or trust? Who's lying and what are their real motives? We generally look on doctors, the FDA and the USDA as our fine upstanding experts and as our protectors. But these "experts" are all in an incestuous, cosy league with the food and drugs industry who are all so constantly driven to make more and more profit no matter what the cost in human collateral damage. The food and oil cartels are no different. They use fear very cleverly -- H1N1 outbreak!! -- and everybody scrambles for their useless vaccines. All the governments who bought the H1N1 vaccines were forced to sign 'no prosecution' agreements as part of their contracts to protect the drug companies supplying the vaccines if there were problems. Simple blackmail. Can you believe that? One heck of a money stream for the drugs companies that one...Even if their vaccines failed -- their profits were completely assured and the stock market was happy!! I have a nickname for the drugs companies now....The Untouchables. And that just about covers it.

By the way, hows the papaya experiment going? Your great andhighly risky experiment gave me a lot to wonder about...

As for writing another book on this subject -- many others have written far better books than I could ever write. Silent Spring by Rachel Carson(1962) was the first definitive book about our food supply and it's still a wonderful classic. Have you read it?


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 05/27/2014

Bill from the Philippines;

Re: Bill's "Oils" Post...

Wonderful article. I'd taken lots of Omega 6 over the years and became convinced like you that there were problems there. Your historical account is so very illuminating. Thank you for your considerable research and time in composing your...not just a Post...an article. How about you write another book on this subject. "The Omega Myth; Exposed" or something like that. Sounds like a mystery novel and it is in a way. The truth is as you laid it out, the special interests propelled a flawed study to dupe the public and our medical community into telling us something that was just not true. And millions have died as a result.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/26/2014

Hi Cindy...I have nothing against essential fatty acids derived from vegetable oils. My objection arises due to people advising that vegetable oils are the only fatty acids that are good for you and my view is mainly derived on demographic and historic observations on diet.

Before 1900 our main dietary fats were lard, tallow and butter. All saturated fats with little or no vegetable oils in the diet. In Asia and Africa their older historic diets used mainly animal fats, ghee(clarified butter), coconut oil and palm oil. All saturated fats. There was far less serious autoimmune diseases like heart disease in these older times because of their saturated fat diet. The eskimos ate whale and seal blubber in large amounts and they were very healthy on this older diet. When these eskimos eventually moved into modern townships they caught the same autoimmune diseases as the white man because they ate the same processed foods and vegetable oils.

In my opinion, we eat far too much polyunsaturated veg oils(omega 6) in our diets today. Researchers continually advocate that we should balance omega 6 with omega 3 oils in a ratio of 3:1. We simply cannot digest omega 6's properly without properly balancing omega 3 oils in the diet and that's a fact. But how can you balance these oils properly when our diets are already so incredibly high in chemically processed, chemically altered, oxidized and dead omega 6 polyunsaturated vegetable oils? And how can you be sure that that wonderful bottle of unprocessed flaxeed oil that you bought at the organic health shop isn't already oxidized? (flaxeed oil contains polyunsaturated omega 6's and omega 3's that are easily oxidized in just ordinary sunlight). That's one of the main reasons for the failure of the Budwig Protocol against cancer -- due to oxidized flaxseed oil. If your flaxeed oil that you use with cottage cheese is already oxidized and contains trans fats instead then what effect will that have on cancer?

They even brazenly refer to these processed vegetable oils as RBD oils -- Refined, Bleached and Deodorized. Additives? Is this kind of oil really good for you? Too much omega 6 oil in the diet is therefore very bad for health. Chemically processed omega 6's are even worse. Having said that, omega 6 and omega 3 oils are indeed necessary for our body in their pure unaltered and un-oxidized form -- but in much smaller amounts than is in our diets today.

Denham Harman, a UK researcher, fed mice on their natural diet which included processed vegetable oils as well. The other mice group just ate their natural diet -- no veg oil. At the end of the experiment Harman found that the mice group that ate vegetable oils had a 45% higher rate of cancer than the other mice group which had not eaten veg oil. See this link:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/jul2004_profile_harman_01.htm

Harman's research more or less confirmed that excess polyunsaturated fats in the diet were bad for you and from his research, the mice -- who are also vegetarians -- just ate too much veg oil in their diet with consequent and obvious unbeneficial results.

And then there was the poor and much-manipulated research by Ancel Keyes which concluded that saturated fats were bad for your heart and veg oils were all good. With great glee, the US veg oil cartels ran with that research as advertizing propaganda to persuade us to buy their "more healthy" veg oils in the 1960s and now we are all brainwashed and have the same knee jerk belief that veg oils(in any quantity) are good for our hearts and saturated fats(in any quantity) is bad for us in our diets today. And here we are 50 years on and we're all eating veg oils and margarine and other man made foods and guess what? The population statistics on heart disease today are logarithmic. Heart disease is the No 1 killer in America today. So it was all bunk research, just propaganda so that the US vegetable oil cartels could beat the sales of the palm oil producers from Asia. So it was really all about money and profit and had nothing whatsoever to do with heart health. And we're all suffering for it now. If you want a proper and honest understanding about heart disease and cholesterol then read this and make up your own mind.

Another article I remember reading with interest was an interview with an esteemed gastro surgeon. He described that the intestinal inner surface should be pink to be healthy. But he admitted in the interview that in all his years as a gastro surgeon who had operated on hundreds of intestines, he had never come across what he would describe as a healthy set of human intestine. He then described that all the intestines he had seen looked like they were covered with a dark grey inner varnish. When asked about the cause the surgeon said, without hesitation, that excess processed vegetable oils in the diet were the cause. Too much oxidized, processed oil and not enough omega 3's in the diet.

Finally I would say that small amounts of omega 3's and omega 6's are necessary in diet. I take a teaspoon of high quality Black Seed Oil (Nigella Saliva) every day to satisfy this need. But the main oil I use for cooking is coconut oil -- a saturated fat oil -- because it will not oxidize at high heat or be oxidized in sunlight as will polyunsaturated oils or monounsaturated oils(like olive oil). I've also read that olive oil exporters are now adding cheap, processed polyunsaturated oils into their olive oil to make more profit. That's why I tend to steer clear of most unsaturated oils. To me, unsaturated oils just means "easily oxidized to trans fats".

All I'm doing here is reverting to and supporting the older more healthy dietary habits that have been followed for thousands of years. There is only one question that needs answering -- "What essential oils do my genes really want and need?" You can only discover the answer to that question when you look at older diets that have been eaten over the millenia. Like it or not, our genes have adjusted to these older diets and need them for proper health. Essential oils is just one small part of the diet puzzle. I believe that these older diets are what our genes crave because our genes are so used to them. And this diet must also include saturated fats and non-processed healthier foods as well.

Food producers and scientists should stop playing God with our food. We now blessed with GMO, drugs, agri-poisons, chemical processing and tainted drinking water, all of which corrupt and insult our food supplies and our bodies. Of course, this path is utter madness. I would much rather honest science worked in lock-step with Nature. That way at least these for-profit industry-paid scientists might learn a thing or two about what is really beneficial and necessary for our good health.


Which are Best to Take?
Posted by Cindy (Usa) on 05/26/2014

Re: Question for Bill from San Fernando. I would like to know about essential fatty acids: what to use, when and how and what they do? After some researching there seems to be many opinions on which one is best to take. Thanks in advance for help with this!

Marine Phytoplankton
Posted by Rob (Manhattan) on 09/01/2013

After my 2nd bottle of PhytoPlankton,.. No noticable changes in general health, but it has effected my dream states. Producing very vivid dreams.. Not all pleasant. I like having vivid dreams so will continue with this, off and on... & continue researching it. Will discontinue if anything negative arises... always good to take breaks with any supplement.


Neuropathy
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 03/12/2013 2063 posts

Karen: Flax Oil is like a precursor to the EFA's (DHA - EPA) found in Fish Oil. Flax is thought to produce more EFA's per volume than Fish. Really whichever you can get a best buy will do. Chia and Walnut Oil also contain the beneficial EFA's. It is advised, however, to supplement Vit-E to protect the integrity of the EFA's.


Neuropathy
Posted by Karen (Tampa, Fl) on 03/11/2013

Does anyone know for sure if Flax seed oil or omega 3 fish oil is better for neuropathy? Or are they about the same. Seems to me one ought to be better than the other as they are from completely different sources. Thank you much.

Marine Phytoplankton
Posted by Ginger (Rocky Face, Georgia) on 01/26/2013

Has anyone taken Marine Phytoplankton and what did they think about it and did it help them? Just wondering if this is really a "miracle food"?

Adhd
Posted by Bob (Moosic, Pa./usa) on 04/14/2012

Many moms who have autistic children were dehydrated while pregnant. Main causes of dehydration are drinking caffeine, alcohol or soda & lack of water & sea salt.

Google: Autism caused by dehydration.


Anxiety
Posted by Cynthia (London, Uk) on 01/23/2012
★★★★★

I started taking 2 tablespoons per day of ground flaxseed (or flaxseed meal), in the hopes of shrinking the many large fibroids in my uterus, and easing fibrocystic breast pain.

I've been taking it for less than a month, and I'm guessing that it's too soon to tell if it has helped with these things, or at least it doesn't seem to have helped so far.

But, I have noticed some positive effects in other areas. I am normally a very anxious person, but since starting the flaxseed, I feel much calmer and able to handle everyday situations. My asthma has also seemed to improve drastically, (probably as a result of me being calmer). I have hardly taken any asthma medication since I started taking it.

I will definitely continue to take this. I'm happy with the results so far, and really hope that in time it will also help me with the fibroids and breast pain.


Flax Seed Oil Recipes
Posted by Renu (Mandi Gobindgarh, Punjab (india)) on 12/16/2011

Interested in all possible details and recipes of flax seed oil. Even itz usage..


Omega 3 Book Reviews
Posted by Omega3lover (Cape Town, South Africa) on 11/16/2011
★★★★★

This works really well if you are having low sperm count and poor motility. I had very low sperm count and after taking it for 6 months my sperm count increased very much.


Multiple Cures
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Usa) on 10/11/2011 2063 posts

Giny, also consider adding either borage, evening primrose, sunflower, or safflower to already cooked foods, along with omega 3 fish for a more pronounced effect. Music therapy could also be helpful.


Multiple Cures
Posted by Giny (Denver, Colorado) on 10/07/2011

My 19 years son has been struggling with ADD and depression since he was 8 years old. I have tried many remedies, but those only work to some degree. I have tried many prescriptions but none of these work, not mention too many side effects.

I come across the symptom of omega-3 deficiency at web two weeks ago. The symptoms of omega-3 deficiency are acne, dandruff, dry eyes, ADD, depression, joint pain, chicken skin on the back of arms, etc., which match the symptoms my son has. So I decided to give my son fish oil just for the heck of it, and it does help my son's concentration and depression issue. Since it only has been two week, it may not show significant improvement, but it does make some difference. My son does not eat dairy products, and it helps, but not completely. Maybe omega-3 is the missing piece of the puzzle. I will keep everybody posted.

Omega 3 and Hypomania
Posted by Elly (Topeka, Kansas) on 06/06/2011

Hi Bill from the Phillipines or anyone who might have any idea,

I just noticed one more thing that all of these foods have omega 3. I did read online a few reports of omega 3 inducing hypomanic states. If adult's thyroid is fine, is it possible the liver is having trouble breaking down the omega 3? Could this be an allergy? Is there anything to fix the liver or allergy? She doesn't have this issue when she eats egg or fish products in general only when I give her these things singled out as a supplement and in a modest dose. Thanks.


Omega 3 and Hypomania
Posted by Elly (Topeka, Kansas) on 06/06/2011

Does Bill or anyone know here why some people get hyper (mild mania) after eating certain foods like liquid yellow egg yolks or soy lecithin or flax oil? Thanks everyone here.

Hemp Oil
Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 02/09/2011

Hi Tom, I happen to be from Portugal but lived many years in Holland. True that Holland is quite an open minded country, for better and for worse. Therapies which are not accepted in many countries, like the Bates eye therapy, is quite common in Holland, as well as GP's working as a regular doctor and natural doctor, etc. Portugal.... I wouldn't think so! It is a very traditional country where people are happy enough to just go to the doctor when they have any minor complain and love taking medication. Things are slowly changing but it will take a long time. There are some good natural doctors though but those are regarded as weird quacks, more than anything!


Hemp Oil
Posted by Tom (Regina, Sk) on 02/08/2011

Fazia:

Your question is worded too coyly and ambiguously!

I'm guessing that since you mention a documentary, that you are referring not to the oil from the crushed hemp seed, which is available in stores everywhere, but to the "homemade" hemp oil?

The Health Ranger covered this story very well in late 2009 as it unfolded here in Canada in the NS Provincial Supreme Court:

http://www.naturalnews.com/027756_cancer_cure_Big_Pharma.html

Soon after he began, Rick was diagnosed with basal cell carcinoma. After one of the three cancers was removed surgically, it came back. So he decided to try the THC laden hemp oil topically. Within days, all three skin cancers were completely healed. Rick deduced that THC hemp oil cured cancer, but smoking marijuana would not.

A check of Zapom. com, the master Search site for videos of all kinds brings up endless clips of everything from the trial in the TV news, to Rick Simpson's documentary "Run From The Cure":

http://zapom.com/rick simpson

Perhaps someone from the more free, open-minded states like Portugal or Holland will answer you here to explain what is and is not allowed and available.

Those are the prime candidates for countries where Rick Simpson is rumored to have fled.


Hemp Oil
Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 02/08/2011

Hi, I have used Hemp Oil in the kitchen and it was ok, I have given it up because nowadays I only use lard, butter, olive oil and VCO. I avoid all other vegetable oils.


Hemp Oil
Posted by Fazia (Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa) on 02/08/2011

Hi, has anyone here used hemp oil? If so, could you please share your experience. I've seen a documentary regarding its usage but would prefer to hear from someone who has actually used it. Thanks

Flax Seed Oil Recipes
Posted by Scott (Appleton, Wi) on 11/22/2010

Did he add the soaked seeds to his shake, or did he discard the soaked seeds and just drink the water?


Omega 3 Book Reviews
Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 07/04/2010

Book review "The Omega Solution" Jonhathan Goodman

I bought this book with a lot of expectations as I want to know more about the balance between Omega 3 and Omega 6 as it seems quite important for one's wellbeing but I was quite disappointed. I won't say that it hasn't some interesting facts but in the whole I found it quite boring and giving advice I don't think is wise, like telling you that saturated fats are bad, he also advises Canola oil but according to what I have been reading this oil seems not to be healthy at all, as well as corn, safflower and soybean oil.

He is also very much on lowering cholesterol and bad and good cholesterol while all cholesterol seems to be very important for the human body. He does mention that in normal amounts cholesterol is important but what are normal amounts? Isn't what is considered normal nowadays set by the Pharmaceutical Industry in order to make money?

As far as whether fish oils are good for the health or not I don't know, some experts say that they are very important, others say that you shouldn't even touch them.... all very confusing. He also let's himself be guided by the Food Guide Pyramid which doesn't seem the best thing as far as nutrition goes. But well, this book is from 2001, that is maybe the problem!

Shopping for wild fish is indeed a great advice but here in Europe we can't buy many kinds of wild fish anymore. No salmon for example, only farmed.

He also advises soy products which we now know can harm at least those who rely heavily on them, especially unfermented soy products.

I also found it funny that although the author knew of cases treated successfully with EFA's he seems only to accept the evidence of that after being tested scientifically. In my opinion you can't test everything scientifically so in cases you know that there is no harm and other people had good results why not try and add your positive or negative experience to the existing ones? You can't always be waiting for millions to be available, many years of studies and many people? Anyway, it seems that at least in 2001 the jury was not yet out on whether EFA's are good for the health or not and what they could treat so most of the studies he talks about have no practical value!

I have a lot more question marks regarding this book but let me just say that I will look for some other way to get the information I need and I won't buy a health book which is 9 years old again!

Beautiful Skin
Posted by Jenay (Los Angeles, California) on 03/16/2010

hello,,i was wondering if is possible to mix flax seed oil with acv and baking soda?


Canker Sores
Posted by Linda (Springfield, Oh) on 01/17/2010

I had serious canker sores and finally realized it was an allergy to sulfates (a cleansing agent) in most toothpaste. Now I try to use other toothpastes before bed (when the residue is staying in your mouth) and regular in the AM.


Flax Seed Oil Feedback
Posted by Erex (Fayettville, Ny) on 12/24/2009
★★★★★

After eating for a couple of months about 3 tablespoons a day of flax seeds, which I was taking for another condition, I found my nails started growing in clear and healthy. I learned this quite by accident.


Side Effects
Posted by Charlotte (Cos Cob, Ct, Usa) on 12/07/2009

Hi Rob,

I have no problem with flax seed oil, which I can take in large quantities, but high potency omega 3 fish oil causes me to have weird, nightmarish dreams. I am sticking with flax!


Side Effects
Posted by Rob (Manhattan, New York) on 12/07/2009

Omega 3 ...too much of a good thing?

I find, especially with certain brands of omega 3 oils, that I experience an increase in anxiety & worry when I take too much. (tblspoon) Does anyone else experience this? I have a tendency to over do something that is "good" for me. I am constantly reminded that balance is key. Since most supplements are extreme, concentrated, it is probably prudent to take breaks...Dr. Sahelian often recommends 4 days on, with 3 days off. More so, listen to your body over what anyone tells you.

Beautiful Skin
Posted by Roslyn (Queens, N.Y.) on 11/01/2009

Hi Linda from Melbourne Australia. I take omega everyday and also suffer with acne. You use the flaxseed oil as a moisturizer do you put it on day and night? If you apply during the day do you also use SPF sunblock as well? You said it helped with your acne - did you break out before it got better? Also what is vco? I have cut sugar, diary and deep fried foods out of my diet which helps alot. Thanks. I will appreciate any advice that you have.

EC: VCO is an acronym for Virgin Coconut Oil.


Flax Seed Oil Recipes
Posted by Kelly (Cincy, Oh) on 10/07/2009

To those of you who are considering adding flaxseed to your daily diet: I met a man who was in his 60's and looked 40'ish. he said that in his morning health shake (there are 100's of recipes out there, just google it) he added flaxseed he had set in distilled water the night before (no need to grind) the water softens the seeds and the oil leaches out. only do a couple of days ahead to keep from being rancid. NOT EVERYONE HAS A COFFEE GRINDER SO YOU CAN STILL ADD FLAX SEED BY THIS METHOD. GOD BLESS! flax seed adds omega-3 oil as is found in fish oil. 2-4 tbsp of flax seed 8oz.distilled water in fridge w/ lid.

Indigestion During Pregnancy
Posted by Crystalin (San Juan, Pr) on 10/02/2009
★★★★★

During my first pregnancy, I experienced indigestion during my last trimester, which I understood to be normal. I started experiencing it earlier in my second pregnancy with more severe symptoms, and then earlier again in my third pregnancy, with increasingly severe symptoms. Before my fourth pregnancy, my mother-in-law (the best witch doctor around!) told me about flax seed oil. I tried to take a tablespoon with each meal(3x a day). Even if I didn't take in 3 a day, I still took at least 1 tablespoon a day. I never had any indigestion symptoms, until I went on a weekend trip in my 7th month, and forgot to bring my flax seed oil. I ended up having to sleep sitting up in a rocking chair. My indigestion was so severe, I was having a hard time breathing. When I got back home, I immediately resumed taking the flax seed oil, and had no more problems with indigestion.


Articles of Interest
Posted by Lita209 (Sanford, Fl, USA) on 09/23/2009

I just read an interesting article on msn and I would like to share it with you guys: http://health.msn.com/nutrition/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100245164


Warning!
Posted by Guy (Ventura, CA) on 05/18/2009

Hi Barbara from Scottsdale, AZ. Try taking lipase first thing in the morning on a empty stomach. That may help you to assimilate the oil. You don't need more than one capsule of flaxseed oil a day for it to work. If you can get flaxseed oil with vitamin E then get that one.


Anxiety
Posted by Jared (Sydney, Austrailia) on 03/05/2009
★★★★★

I suffer with social anxiety disorder, I'm anxious and have difficulty thinking clearly in general not just in anxiety situations.I got myself flaxseed oil and took a tablespoon.I felt better instantly. My thinking became a lot clearer and my usual confused anxious state diminished. It definitely has a significant effect on brain chemistry. I'll be taking it everyday now :)


Flax Seed Oil Feedback
Posted by Linda (CA, USA) on 01/31/2009
★★★★★

I used to get zits after eating fried foods, chips and nuts or the week before my period starts. But since I've been taking 3 tabs flaxseed oil per day (1000mg), I've had absolutely NO zits. It also seems to keep my keloid scar flatter, too. I've read that flax seed oil (omega-3's) are anti-inflammatory so it makes sense.You can use fish oil too, but I don't like the fishy burp breath. Omega-3's are supposed to help prevent inflammatory diseases like heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, etc. For those who have a hard time swallowing the large tablets, there is always the liquid form which doesn't taste great but will do the job.


Cholesterol
Posted by Jessica (Long Island, NY) on 01/26/2009

Try Red Yeast Rice, I think thats the name, my sister has a Herb shop and my Mom took it and her numbers became normal! Jessica


Adhd
Posted by Jessica (Long Island, NY) on 01/26/2009

Thank you so much for sharing this! Jessica



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