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The National Cancer Insitute spent $20 million and concluded that soy when fermented had the most anti-carcinagenic properties.
When processed at a low temperature and hydrolyzed and nitrogenated into a beverage it has been a very effective alternative for treating advanced cancer patients as well as Crohn's disease, and other auto-immune illnesses.
It is a powerful immune booster and harnesses the body's natural healing powers more than most realize.
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In desperation last week, I bought a bulk pack of soy beans (non GMO)and have been making my own soy milk. The taste is absolutely terrible of course(no sweeteners or flavouring added), but frankly, I'd drink battery acid if I thought it would help.
Well, it has - no, not the battery acid! I got my first full night's sleep in over 12 months last night and the hot flushes have not recurred since the first 24 hours of drinking my home made soymilk.
I have to add however, that I am on the bicarbonate soda/ACV mix as well, and tried oil-pulling with sesame oil for the first time two days ago. The bicarb/ACV drink did help in terms of severity of the flushes, but adding the soymilk to the whole protocol really did the trick, as far as I'm concerned. The difference is amazing and I can't believe how much more energised I feel. I feel as if some heavy horror has been lifted and my outlook on life is now really positive. I find it hard to believe how much the whole menopause thing had affected my vitality and enjoyment of life. I now have my rather immature and much enjoyed sense of mischief back!
I'll keep up the soymilk along with the bicarb/ACV. Despite the taste!
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Another good point is that everyone's body is different. If something is making you sick you should stop having it. Dairy gives me stomach problems but I'm not going to assume suddenly that it's poisonous for everyone. There are so many diet fads and extremist views that people "swear" by with food when the reality is you need to just use common sense and eat intuitively. I personally love soy, I eat tofu or drink a glass of soymilk often and I've never experienced any health problems from it. Also, if we examine diets of other cultures, Japan is known for the longevity of its people (outliving Americans on average by nearly ten years) and they have a diet that's rich in soy. That may not be the reason why they are living so long, but it's clear that soy isn't killing them off.
Clearly, there is conflicting research, but the backlash against soy is sudden and extreme, much like, well, a fad. It's very "in" right now to hate soy, just like back when it became very "in" to love soy when it became popular in America.
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Go to www.mercola.com or drwongradio. com (Naturopathic doctor who has podcasts about alternative health much about dangers of soy and estrogen excess); Dianne Gregs site: http://hiddensoy.com/ etc., Ori Hoffmekler author of the Warrior Diet and The Anti-Estrogen Diet. They all can't be wrong coming from the alternative and holistic community but I encourage anyone curious about soy on whether or not it is right for them, to do their "due diligence" and research both the pros and cons and then make an educated decison...
so, thanks again Ted for keeping us informed and I appreciate this site in where we can freely agreed to disagree...
T
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At the age of 25 my period started slowing down in frequency, between the age of 25-30 i was only having about 3-6 "clotty" 2day periods a year and i developed a big thick chunk in the middle of my neck "swollen thyroid", i had ultra sounds on it apparently it was "normal" "its just more visible due to your slim neck"...i saw many doctors and had tests but they all told me i was fine and to just go on the pill if i wanted to regulate my period...this was not an option for me...i started worrying about my fertility, would i ever be able to get pregnant.
Then at the age of 30.5 my mum read an article about the bad side of soy milk and she told me to get off it quickly....
So i switched to rice milk and 28 days later i got a 5 day period and 2yrs on i have been getting them every 28days..my swollen thyroid has even slimed down :-)....oh and within 5 months of stopping soy milk i got pregnant.
For me this is proof enough...the oestrogen in the soy was messing up my natural cycle...
well thats my story.
you may want to consider adding Natto to your diet. Especially for your Mom. There are studies linking it's use to increased bone density. http://www.isoflavones.info/isoflavones-abstracts.php?article=menaquinone
I buy mine from a local Japanese store and purchase organic which hopefully ensures non GMO.
(there are videos on youtube showing is preparation)
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Also, remember that in the USA at least, a huge proportion of (non-organic) soy products are made with genetically-modified soy, which is very allergenic and messes with the immune system.
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Thank you for your recent e-mail to Silk®. We appreciate your interest in our products.
Until recently the terms Genetically Modified Organism (GMO), GMO-Free and Non-GMO were used to help identify foods that contained genetically altered ingredients. These terms are no longer recognized by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and therefore cannot be used on food packaging.
According to the National Organic Standards, products that are certified organic by definition cannot contain genetically modified ingredients. At Silk, we use only Non-GMO soybeans. Look for the biotechnology statement on our packaging, under Nobody makes soymilk like we do: "We take extra care to select only the best beans, grown without genetic engineering right here in North America."
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I have devised a simple tests decades ago as a part of a research study on allergy and communicable disease during my studies in microbiology that you can conclude yourself.
This was later confirmed in that this simple test can prove to you if soy is good for you. Remember, no medical fact can prove you otherwise if it simply isn't working for you!
Here is a remarkably simple tests (that doctors also secretly used they call it the patch test, but this is simpler).
In science we must use a control and experimental group, but in this case we use milk and soy as a comparison, while your friend is a "control" which he or she DOES NOT DRINK ANY MILK.
1. Prepare a standard milk and soy. We first start with the soy or milk it is up to you.
Assuming you drink soy, keep it in your mouth for about 1-2 minutes then swallow. Drink more, such as about 500 cc to 1 liter of soy milk throughout the day.
2. After about 15-30 minutes, notice if there is bad breath coming in your mouth. You can ask a friend if you are not sure. However I am sure the sticky slimy feel you can tell.
3. The next day, observe if you are coming down with a cold or a rash, or allergy. Most pathogenic bacteria tends to be observable in symptoms after 24 hours of consumption.
4. The next day you can do the milk test. Repeat the procedures 1-3 but using a standard cow's milk. The common symptoms for people with lactose intolerance on cow's milk is diarrhea, allergies or getting colds will come in the next day. If you aren't sure, use your friend as a "control" or reference point.
You can do this in using sundae ice cream or your other favorite choice of suspicious food. It works better then the patch test doctor do, since you are doing it one at a time instead an array of allergens on your arms.
The ones I am asking you to investigate is fried chickens, microwave cooking and french fries. The quantities it must be consumed are about what you alway consume with regular food, in bulk of course, but only this time you will be eating JUST only one type of food - monolithic diets. This is how I learned which food raised my blood pressure, allergies, or even get "the blues".
The best judge for whether the soy works for you or not is yourself. However, based on my own test soy with many people, at least here in Asia, soy works. On the other hand, 90% of all Asians are actually lactose intolerant. However a similar figures are found throughout all ethnic groups but with different percentages. Therefore it doesn't work for everyone! Cheers!
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People who get cancer, infections, viruses, fungus infection or lowered immune system have LOW oxalates. It is also true that people with high oxalate may get kidney stones. Few people also know that certain foods and supplements will rid or dissolve your body of oxalates.
The real secret is not avoiding oxalates, or eating foods high in oxalates, or even finding the middle ground as to how much oxalates you are eating by getting those RDA (Recommended Daily Allowances) of oxalates. They don't exist.
So where do we get the answers? Do we need more high tech knowledge to find such an answer? Look no further then a gorilla raised in the wild. They don't get kidney stones! Gorilla raised in the zoo do! So I guess a Gorilla does not have to get a Ph.D. to know the RDA for oxalates! People get kidney stones for a very simple reasons. If the body's bicarbonates or buffer is insufficient in the intestines, the oxalic acid rich foods, goes right through your intestines and directly into the blood. The oxalic acid will then react with the body's calcium usually in the bloodstream to form calcium oxalates. This is then slowly accumulates in your kidney to form calcium oxalate stones. Calcium oxalate stones is relatively insoluble, whenever your kidney's pH remains at a level below 6. It is more soluble at a more alkaline pH such as 7.
Assuming on the otherhand that your has sufficient levels of bicarbonate or buffer. What happens is this: the body's bicarbonates reacts directly with the oxalic acid in the intestines to neutralized the acid to form sodium oxalate, which prevents any further reaction from becoming calcium oxalate and safe.
You can do this experiment at your own home to prove to you why a urinary pH acid causes calcium oxalate, which is one of the common components of the kidney stones. This is a small experiment I devised sometime ago in the beginning of this year (2006) to resolve the oxalic rich food paradox. I will be first to admit, this is not an exact science, but with the resources that I have quite limited!
Prepare a fresh urine sample in a cup. Get 1/4 teaspoon of oxalic acid and dissolve. The urine will become instantly cloudy. Precipitates will form. There you have it, instant kidney stones!
Now perform another experiment, get 1 teaspoon of baking soda and put it in ANOTHER, fresh urine sample cup. Now add 1/4 teaspoon of oxalic acid. The baking soda will react with oxalic acid to form sodium oxalate, instead of reacting with the calcium in your urine. The ending urine sample will be clearer then the one without the baking soda. So a person with plenty of bicarbonates is unlikely to get kidney stones!
So the cure for kidney stones, or the nemesis of oxalic is simple: baking soda. No need to avoid oxalate, or determine the RDA for oxalate diet and you now have a way of preventing kidney stones! Of course many other supplement will also dissolve kidney stones: citric acid, vitamin B6, and vitamin C. So the reason to avoid the soy on oxalates is unfounded. as you can easily get them from other foods too. The secret is something that covers so many illness is baking soda.
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If you are going to post something like this on the internet at least be non biased. I dare you to find five studies that just as staunchly will tell you how bad soy is. Just because you can copy and paste is no excuse to think you are right.
I was just reading this little tid bit before I ran accross this.
http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/23/11/2584.full
Funny how if you only look at papers supporting your point of view, you end up looking right. Be the devils advocate to your own point of view.
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I do not believe that Ted has sided with the certain interest groups, multinational companies or goverments on this topic as he is always willing to offer help that is unconventional and unbiased. His post was a long time ago so things change and will keep changing depending on different diseases popping up, studies being done, and lawsuits being faught. Some day soy will be back on the ok list just like eggs and dairy are now. There is no doubt that certain interest groups, multinational companies and governments will always try to sway the people into taking or not taking certain foods and supplements but we are free to decide (at least for the time being) if we will follow the rest of the herd or choose to do the unconventional.
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So, I guess I started to do what Mmsg was suggesting, I fixed everything from scratch. I lost 20lbs without even trying. (It was 20lbs I had gained when I had started a new job and was also eating out a lot.) I don't know if it was soy or something else in processed foods. I wasn't even trying to diet and hadn't increased my exercise. It was an interesting benefit from giving up soy.
~Mama to Many~
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I heard 90% of all soy products are GMO and that ALL soy in this country is sprayed with agent orange... This came from a very good source...Thank you
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Basically soy is a high-quality plant protein in which Isoflavones are also contained in large quantities in the form of phytoestrogens. Nevertheless, the protein and the Isoflavones, as well as other substances of soy, are in no way harmless. In particular with long-term consumption of large quantities, the Isoflavones effect the hormone balance quite critically.
However, all the other soy substances are not harmless either, which is why they should be used as food only with sufficient caution or not at all. In particular no kind of food for children should contain any soy products at all, because with regard to the Isoflavones, especially the health of babies, toddlers and adolescents is impaired by soy products and in other respects health is seriously damaged. Already less than one quarter of a milligram of Isoflavones per one kilogram of body weight per day can cause very bad and irreparable health defects in children of every age, namely in relation to consciousness activity, the brain, the intelligence, the world of thought and feeling, the psyche, the physical body and the behaviour pattern etc.
If pregnant women consume soy products it can lead to heavy and irreparable damages to the foetus' body, limbs, nerves, cerebrum and muscles as well as to body deformations. More than a quarter of a milligram of Isoflavones per kilo of body weight should not be given to babies and toddlers under any circumstances.
Said with easy and generally understandable words and concepts, soy products of all kind, because of their toxic ingredients, in larger quantities are even capable of impairing the health of strong adults and to cause serious damage, which can lead to growth of tumours, respectively cancer and to the fostering of brain-, consciousness and behavioural disorders, personality changes and to infertility.
Especially breast cancer in women and men is often caused by soy products, as well as depression and Parkinson's, namely in particular when a hereditary disposition exists for it. Also Alzheimer's and dementia can be results of an excess of the Isoflavones, as well as an impairment of eyesight, the taste buds, the ability to concentrate, the moral balance and various other important life factors.
Then what ought to be the amount of soy that the adult may take? The quantity depends on the concentration of Isoflavones, of which a person should consume no more than half a milligram per kilo of body weight daily if he does not want to be impaired toxically. This means that a person of 70 kilograms of body weight should not consume soy products that exceed 35 milligrams of Isoflavones. However, with soy consumption this amount is reached very quickly.
This is indeed the case, because already a normal soy drink of 2.5 dl in size contains about 30 milligrams of Isoflavones.
And what is the case with drugs made of soy respectively concerning their Isoflavones? Such drugs are in no way recommend, if, on one hand, they are not adjusted for the body weight, and, on the other hand, are taken for too long a time, or if the person is especially susceptible with regard to Isoflavones
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/3513607.stm
I recall reading somewhere that tofu, miso etc (the fermented types of soy) are safe and that's why Asians have no problems with their consumption of soy. It's really only the western world that has decided to include soy in so many products (canned tuna for instance) and this is where the problems lies. Check the labels in your pantry and you'll be amazed at how much soy we're consuming, to our detriment!!!
I am not writing just because we manufacture Non-GMO Soy Lecithin but because I am reading many articles that Soy is very allergic, Not good for health and etc.. It may be but kindly go to the reports and also the environment and the patients health also..
Because in India and other South-Asian countries max you can say 95% people eat Soy or bi-products from age below 5yrs. Then why there is no such Allergy in India? Why people are still healthy when taking or consuming Soy in their regular diet?
Kindly don't follow blindly anything which is published without any studies.. Kumar Reddy
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I am from south india. Your fact is totally baseless, there is no data or truth that 95% of the children below 5 years are eating SOY or soy based products. Let me explain.
Before the globalization and advent of foreign companies in India, specifically quoting the 'Software Boom'. Most of the population were on the rural sides of the States in India. Including Hyderabad, Bangalore, chennai.
A child after birth is raised in the following ways, hope you would agree that.
For the first 3 months, the infant is given only mother's milk that build the total immunity of the child.
After 3 months, may be from the 4th month the infant is still given THE WHITE GOLD MOTHER'S MILK. And slowly introduced with solid foods, that are traditionally made. Like rice porridge, mashed IDLI, curd rice, nicely boiled DAL rice Sambar(without spice) - (for other country people, these are made with rice and lentils only - traditionally grown). And some suplement milk products that are wholely made with milk.
Usually, a mother breast feeds her child till one and a half years some continue till 2 years.
After 1 year, each and every child only eats only the home made food, rice, sambar, dosa, idli, vada, porridge, boiled vegetables. till the age 5. soy was not part of the food culture in india till 2000, (even till date)
In 1970's there were no SOY products in india, SOYA was not even cultivated in 1 percent of the lands. If you know about it. There were few milk supplement products India in 1970's that where made with non-homogenized milks. Lactogen, Farex, Cerelac, Nestum. And most of the milk produced were from the exotic breeds from south india. Not the western Holstien Freezian , Redden, Jersey's (Jersey's milk is good when compared to Holstiens).
So literally no allergens in the food, before the introduction of GMO foods. And even if there are allergens, the immunity developed by the MOTHER'S MILK given for nearly 1-2 years takes care of it.
Well after 2000, still most of the population resides in the VILLAGES of India, not in cities. If you exactly count the type of foods eaten by the people. It will be NON-GMO foods. There is only little amount of GMO FOODS is eaten by the children and people mostly by the city people.
Moreover, South Indian food culture has balanced foods. For Sambar(made with lentils) is nutritious, Curd Rice(Rice mixed with Yoghurt) is probiotic, Rasam or Thilli Saru (made with tamarind Juice, is an excellent digestion enhancer and detoxifier).
So, I would say the food culture, food habits and Cultural Breast Feeding Habits takes care of allergens, so there is less allergy.
With respect to SOY, SOY has complex protein chains. So the East Asian people, only use the SOY after fermenting it. They never consume it cooked. TOFU, SOY SAUCE, NATTO, MISSO are all fermented soy that what they use it most.
Only in recent times, SOYA is promoted in India. GMO foods are certainly allergic, but the allergic reaction is determined by the IMMUNITY of the people consuming it.
If you think consuming SOY(raw and cooked) is not affecting one's health then just wait for another 5 years and see the results.
The total consumed food by the Indian population is NON-GMO that is the reason there are less allergies(there are other factors too like - pollen, steroid injected broilers, too much of vaccines, enzyme activated washing detergents, perfumes, deodorants).
Now indian government has allowed testing of GMO foods in their lands. Well God save this land.
Fortunately, State of Tamil Nadu has banned any types of GMO crops to be tested or cultivated in the lands of Tamil Nadu. I wish other States follow the same.
Good Health.
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It certainly is getting harder to try to avoid getting very sick these days and it is hidden using various names in most processed foods. Along with MSG and aspartame you wonder what Governments are doing to the worldwide population.
No wonder our kids minds are being turned to mush. I would be interested in others thoughts on this.
http://www.justmindpower.com/Soy.html
He was breeding fancy birds and when their food was changed to soy, their offspring were deformed. He personally had health problems and it took him years to flush the poison out.
An RN nurse told me that infants at the hospital are fed soy but they don't do well on it. She was prohibited from mentioning it to parents.
When the NZ man and others tried to alert the public the soy corp. harassed them so they had nervous break downs and had to go into hiding.
Meanwhile we know that soy narrows fine arteries, causes aging and affect even one's DNA adversely. There is tons of research by now. I see, among the gmo-ed oils soy oil is put into a lot of common grocery foods. In China, soy oil is not used for cooking, I was told. Namaste, Om
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Since Ted is back I would request him to take some time and please write on Soya and clarify our doubts. Baldev
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Hey, Lanos - Maybe you should just pray to God over it, and then take it anyway. Refering to your other post, and your condescending attitude.
GOD BLESS.
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The final threat was an incident at work while on my cycle, I got up to walk to a colleauges office and as I stoood approximately 2 to 3 cups of blood poured out of my body. I now know that to be "flooding".
My GYN doctor immediately put me on Progesterone hormone therapy, which worked temporarily. The progesterone was to aid in balancing my hormone levels of estrogen & progesterone.
She advised that the fibroids had grown very large (the size of a 6 week pregnancy) in my uterine walls.
I learned that Soy has high traces of estrogen and this is what aided to the growth of fibroids.
Sadly, I had to have surgery in 2008. It was very traumatic and I even ended up with a large keloid scar.
After the surgery, I limited soy and replaced soy-milk with almond milk.
In December 2010, I decided to become vegan and again increased my soy/tofu/tempeh, again, my fibroids are back and my doctor has advised that I will need to have surgery again.
I am convinced that the soy products added extra dosages of estrogen which contributed to the growth and regrowth of my fibroids.
It's obvious that all people do not react the same to foods and/or drugs. But, similiar to medications and the listed possible side effects, the same should always be stated with any reference or suggestion to natural remedies or supplements.
Thank you.
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I was fed soy formula as an infant, and I do not know of any health problems that I have ( I don't have many) that are connected to soy. That being said, knowing what I know now, I certainly would not give a soy formula to an infant, but I wouldn't worry about the past too much. By the way, you have said that you grew up in Portugal and now live in France (correct?), but your English seems flawless. What's your secret?
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