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The National Cancer Insitute spent $20 million and concluded that soy when fermented had the most anti-carcinagenic properties.
When processed at a low temperature and hydrolyzed and nitrogenated into a beverage it has been a very effective alternative for treating advanced cancer patients as well as Crohn's disease, and other auto-immune illnesses.
It is a powerful immune booster and harnesses the body's natural healing powers more than most realize.
regards,
Steve Becker
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Go to www.mercola.com or drwongradio. com (Naturopathic doctor who has podcasts about alternative health much about dangers of soy and estrogen excess); Dianne Gregs site: http://hiddensoy.com/ etc., Ori Hoffmekler author of the Warrior Diet and The Anti-Estrogen Diet. They all can't be wrong coming from the alternative and holistic community but I encourage anyone curious about soy on whether or not it is right for them, to do their "due diligence" and research both the pros and cons and then make an educated decison...
so, thanks again Ted for keeping us informed and I appreciate this site in where we can freely agreed to disagree...
T
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At the age of 25 my period started slowing down in frequency, between the age of 25-30 i was only having about 3-6 "clotty" 2day periods a year and i developed a big thick chunk in the middle of my neck "swollen thyroid", i had ultra sounds on it apparently it was "normal" "its just more visible due to your slim neck"...i saw many doctors and had tests but they all told me i was fine and to just go on the pill if i wanted to regulate my period...this was not an option for me...i started worrying about my fertility, would i ever be able to get pregnant.
Then at the age of 30.5 my mum read an article about the bad side of soy milk and she told me to get off it quickly....
So i switched to rice milk and 28 days later i got a 5 day period and 2yrs on i have been getting them every 28days..my swollen thyroid has even slimed down :-)....oh and within 5 months of stopping soy milk i got pregnant.
For me this is proof enough...the oestrogen in the soy was messing up my natural cycle...
well thats my story.
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In desperation last week, I bought a bulk pack of soy beans (non GMO)and have been making my own soy milk. The taste is absolutely terrible of course(no sweeteners or flavouring added), but frankly, I'd drink battery acid if I thought it would help.
Well, it has - no, not the battery acid! I got my first full night's sleep in over 12 months last night and the hot flushes have not recurred since the first 24 hours of drinking my home made soymilk.
I have to add however, that I am on the bicarbonate soda/ACV mix as well, and tried oil-pulling with sesame oil for the first time two days ago. The bicarb/ACV drink did help in terms of severity of the flushes, but adding the soymilk to the whole protocol really did the trick, as far as I'm concerned. The difference is amazing and I can't believe how much more energised I feel. I feel as if some heavy horror has been lifted and my outlook on life is now really positive. I find it hard to believe how much the whole menopause thing had affected my vitality and enjoyment of life. I now have my rather immature and much enjoyed sense of mischief back!
I'll keep up the soymilk along with the bicarb/ACV. Despite the taste!
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I do not believe that Ted has sided with the certain interest groups, multinational companies or goverments on this topic as he is always willing to offer help that is unconventional and unbiased. His post was a long time ago so things change and will keep changing depending on different diseases popping up, studies being done, and lawsuits being faught. Some day soy will be back on the ok list just like eggs and dairy are now. There is no doubt that certain interest groups, multinational companies and governments will always try to sway the people into taking or not taking certain foods and supplements but we are free to decide (at least for the time being) if we will follow the rest of the herd or choose to do the unconventional.
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I am from south india. Your fact is totally baseless, there is no data or truth that 95% of the children below 5 years are eating SOY or soy based products. Let me explain.
Before the globalization and advent of foreign companies in India, specifically quoting the 'Software Boom'. Most of the population were on the rural sides of the States in India. Including Hyderabad, Bangalore, chennai.
A child after birth is raised in the following ways, hope you would agree that.
For the first 3 months, the infant is given only mother's milk that build the total immunity of the child.
After 3 months, may be from the 4th month the infant is still given THE WHITE GOLD MOTHER'S MILK. And slowly introduced with solid foods, that are traditionally made. Like rice porridge, mashed IDLI, curd rice, nicely boiled DAL rice Sambar(without spice) - (for other country people, these are made with rice and lentils only - traditionally grown). And some suplement milk products that are wholely made with milk.
Usually, a mother breast feeds her child till one and a half years some continue till 2 years.
After 1 year, each and every child only eats only the home made food, rice, sambar, dosa, idli, vada, porridge, boiled vegetables. till the age 5. soy was not part of the food culture in india till 2000, (even till date)
In 1970's there were no SOY products in india, SOYA was not even cultivated in 1 percent of the lands. If you know about it. There were few milk supplement products India in 1970's that where made with non-homogenized milks. Lactogen, Farex, Cerelac, Nestum. And most of the milk produced were from the exotic breeds from south india. Not the western Holstien Freezian , Redden, Jersey's (Jersey's milk is good when compared to Holstiens).
So literally no allergens in the food, before the introduction of GMO foods. And even if there are allergens, the immunity developed by the MOTHER'S MILK given for nearly 1-2 years takes care of it.
Well after 2000, still most of the population resides in the VILLAGES of India, not in cities. If you exactly count the type of foods eaten by the people. It will be NON-GMO foods. There is only little amount of GMO FOODS is eaten by the children and people mostly by the city people.
Moreover, South Indian food culture has balanced foods. For Sambar(made with lentils) is nutritious, Curd Rice(Rice mixed with Yoghurt) is probiotic, Rasam or Thilli Saru (made with tamarind Juice, is an excellent digestion enhancer and detoxifier).
So, I would say the food culture, food habits and Cultural Breast Feeding Habits takes care of allergens, so there is less allergy.
With respect to SOY, SOY has complex protein chains. So the East Asian people, only use the SOY after fermenting it. They never consume it cooked. TOFU, SOY SAUCE, NATTO, MISSO are all fermented soy that what they use it most.
Only in recent times, SOYA is promoted in India. GMO foods are certainly allergic, but the allergic reaction is determined by the IMMUNITY of the people consuming it.
If you think consuming SOY(raw and cooked) is not affecting one's health then just wait for another 5 years and see the results.
The total consumed food by the Indian population is NON-GMO that is the reason there are less allergies(there are other factors too like - pollen, steroid injected broilers, too much of vaccines, enzyme activated washing detergents, perfumes, deodorants).
Now indian government has allowed testing of GMO foods in their lands. Well God save this land.
Fortunately, State of Tamil Nadu has banned any types of GMO crops to be tested or cultivated in the lands of Tamil Nadu. I wish other States follow the same.
Good Health.
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Another good point is that everyone's body is different. If something is making you sick you should stop having it. Dairy gives me stomach problems but I'm not going to assume suddenly that it's poisonous for everyone. There are so many diet fads and extremist views that people "swear" by with food when the reality is you need to just use common sense and eat intuitively. I personally love soy, I eat tofu or drink a glass of soymilk often and I've never experienced any health problems from it. Also, if we examine diets of other cultures, Japan is known for the longevity of its people (outliving Americans on average by nearly ten years) and they have a diet that's rich in soy. That may not be the reason why they are living so long, but it's clear that soy isn't killing them off.
Clearly, there is conflicting research, but the backlash against soy is sudden and extreme, much like, well, a fad. It's very "in" right now to hate soy, just like back when it became very "in" to love soy when it became popular in America.
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The final threat was an incident at work while on my cycle, I got up to walk to a colleauges office and as I stoood approximately 2 to 3 cups of blood poured out of my body. I now know that to be "flooding".
My GYN doctor immediately put me on Progesterone hormone therapy, which worked temporarily. The progesterone was to aid in balancing my hormone levels of estrogen & progesterone.
She advised that the fibroids had grown very large (the size of a 6 week pregnancy) in my uterine walls.
I learned that Soy has high traces of estrogen and this is what aided to the growth of fibroids.
Sadly, I had to have surgery in 2008. It was very traumatic and I even ended up with a large keloid scar.
After the surgery, I limited soy and replaced soy-milk with almond milk.
In December 2010, I decided to become vegan and again increased my soy/tofu/tempeh, again, my fibroids are back and my doctor has advised that I will need to have surgery again.
I am convinced that the soy products added extra dosages of estrogen which contributed to the growth and regrowth of my fibroids.
It's obvious that all people do not react the same to foods and/or drugs. But, similiar to medications and the listed possible side effects, the same should always be stated with any reference or suggestion to natural remedies or supplements.
Thank you.
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you may want to consider adding Natto to your diet. Especially for your Mom. There are studies linking it's use to increased bone density. http://www.isoflavones.info/isoflavones-abstracts.php?article=menaquinone
I buy mine from a local Japanese store and purchase organic which hopefully ensures non GMO.
(there are videos on youtube showing is preparation)
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Also, remember that in the USA at least, a huge proportion of (non-organic) soy products are made with genetically-modified soy, which is very allergenic and messes with the immune system.
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I ate soy for about a month and experienced the WORST possible pms imagineable... good thing I quit and was able t osave my marriage cause trust me it was ugly...
I will never touch soy again and really think it is much more harmfull than earlier thought. I resent Teds information page and hope that those who are ill don't read it with out reading the comments below. I really think it should be removed and that a short description on soy is more suitable.
Peace and prosperity to all
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"I was very involved in the creation of Silk Organic Soymilk when it was first designed and manufactured. Steve Demos was very committed to Silk being Non-GMO, Organic and Vegan. Suddenly, when buying Silk at Whole Foods, I discovered that none of the Silk flavors in half gallon containers were certified organic. The cartons look exactly the same as before with the exception/removal of the USDA Organic Seal and the word "organic" before soybeans in the nutritional panel. This is a very sneaky way for a manufacturer to discontinue Non-GMO Organic soybeans in the manufacture of thier product. I also wonder why Whole Foods continues to sell this product without a "warning sign". Sincerely, Tedelan"
http://organicconsumers.org/forum/index.php?autocom=blog&blogid=78&showentry=96#comments
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Thank you for your recent e-mail to Silk®. We appreciate your interest in our products.
Until recently the terms Genetically Modified Organism (GMO), GMO-Free and Non-GMO were used to help identify foods that contained genetically altered ingredients. These terms are no longer recognized by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and therefore cannot be used on food packaging.
According to the National Organic Standards, products that are certified organic by definition cannot contain genetically modified ingredients. At Silk, we use only Non-GMO soybeans. Look for the biotechnology statement on our packaging, under Nobody makes soymilk like we do: "We take extra care to select only the best beans, grown without genetic engineering right here in North America."
Thanks again for contacting the Consumer Affairs Department.
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For those living in the far east, I believe a combination of the Asian diet along with the local production of soy is what allows for their tolerance of this substance.
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first i stopped all soy products. i had to be real careful with this because i quickly realized that to ingest even a little soy that may be hidden in bread etc gave me a violent reaction.i began to read labels very carefully. by the way our food is invaded by soy. after stopping soy my thyroglobulin ab antibody became normal in two months and is stiil normal 8 months later. i decided to stopped eating all foods that decrease thyroid production know as goitrogens , to go on a gluten free diet and i also stopped dairy products because of the caseins. every day i take selenium, and because i drank reverse osmosis water all my life and wanted to get more minerals i bought a water filter from aquasana that does not remove the minerals. i had questioned hauling and storing the reverse osmosis water in plastic containers that i was filling at the heath food store. pcbs can leach into the water and pcbs damage the thyroid gland. i got rid of all my plastic containers in my house and replaced then with healthy glass containers.i also made sure i got 150 mcg of iodine a day and if i took more than that i felt heper that day. i don't have heart racing but it made me nervous, so i am careful with the iodine. i know people in japan get about 12.5 mg iodine a day .... but think about this...... hashimoto's disease was discovered in japan and japanese people eat lots of goitrogens in their diet including soy which cause the thyroid not to absorb iodine so that is why they can get away with the amount of iodine they get from eating lots of seaweed.
in any case when i stopped all goitrogens and began iodine the pain in my neck area completely stopped within 24 hours and has not returned.i had also began to feel pain in my breast which also disappeared. i felt great on 150/mcg a day. during this transition since i made all these changes my test results are all normal except my tpo ab is still a little high but every two months it drops 20 points. it was 141 and now it is 120. i am sure it will continue to drop until it is normal. i am feeling sooo much better. my basal temperature is 98.2 every morning.
finally after 10 months of this whole progress and changes i found an alternative healer in my area. he was amazed by my progress and the decisions i had taken. he suggested i add a homeopathic remedy called thyroidinum 30x 2 pills 3 times a day. i am doing this and really feel i am almost 100% healed. when i think back to those times my heart was acting up so badly i know my metabolism was really in bad shape. i feel the major cause was the soy. it turns out i am allergic to soy, but even so 1/4 cup of soy milk will cause the thyroid in an non-allergic individual to work 50% less for 24 hours. i also think if you eat a goteiren type food on those days and maybe a few days afterwards it would be wise to increase iodine but than go back to a standard dosage. every night before i retire i take 1/2 teaspoon of magnesium citrate in a glass of water this heals me sleep like a baby. i hope my experience can help someone out there. if you want more information on any change i made in my diet just go on line and look..soy and thyroid ,gluten etc.... this is a great sight to read all about it as well.
god bless you all .....jeanine.
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