Natural Remedies for Chronic Viruses

I had horrible flu like symptoms that lingered for over a week. Figured I would try eating whole lemons as they have natural antibiotic properties. The day after I started eating them I felt the virus lifting from me! Maybe a coincidence, but I am giving the lemons credit on this one! Good to feel human again.

THANK YOU TRACI! Thank you. I had had a virus for nearly 2 weeks - I had been housebound most of that time as I had VERY little energy. I was getting worn down by not getting any better, (I was actually getting worse), and rather than go to the doctor and be prescribed antibiotics,

I googled 'natural remedies for a virus' and up popped this page. I read through some remedies but was too wary of trying some suggestions and then I came across 'Lemons', as I had some in my home, I thought I had nothing to lose by trying. Nothing to 'lose'? My oh my, what I didn't know was I had EVERYTHING to gain. I took a whole lemon, halved it in two and squeezed, by hand, all the juice into 8oz of warm water and I drank every drop - I used a straw as that made it easier for me. Now, WHILST I was literally drinking the lemon water I could feel a difference - seriously! - but the best was yet to come, within half an hour I had SO much energy and felt SO much better. I also read about the pH balance of our bodies and mine was out of sync - lemons, although acid have an alkalyzing effect on our systems - I had too much acid which leads to not enough oxygen in your system and the lemon, RAPIDLY corrected the imbalance. That was 4 days ago and since then I have taken the lemon drink every day AND I am going to continue doing so. It's ONLY a lemon, try it and be amazed!

Thank you Earth Clinic for your forum, I was at my wits' end and now I am tiptop. Coincidence? I don't believe in such things, it simply was the lemon.

I discovered the wonders of ACV a few months ago. My husband caught a viral infection and was so sick he lost 2 days work, after two weeks he was still sick and I got a scratchy throat by the 3rd day I could barely talk or eat it hurt so bad. My Mom suggested I try ACV and honey mixed together and take 1 TBL 3 times a day. I was desperate so I tried it. 1 spoon in the morning and wow did it burn my throat I had to drink some water to stop the burn, I had 3 spoons of the ACV and honey mixture and that evening my sore throat was gone!!! My husband refused to try it and a few days later he called me from work and said he was going to the ER because he felt so sick. He was sent home with a prescription. I told him just try the ACV and honey, you have been sick all this time but I was sick only 3 days, just try it! He did and it worked, he never filled the prescription. I plan on buying some unprocessed ACV to treat other health problems I have. ACV is a wonder!

I had been attempting to see a specialist who treats patients with blood chelation therapy and hydrogen peroxide injection. In the meantime, I engaged in some of the therapies written about here. I will eventually obtain peroxide treatments with the specialist here to follow up.

I chose footbaths, since I have no tub in my apartment. I really took to the footbaths and do it now as a matter of course. I also tried inhaling when I came down with the flu, a hazard at my workplace. The inhaling method I found to be very harsh, so I limited it to only enough to get over having the flu, which was in a matter of 48-60 hours. I do keep a nasal spray bottle on hand in case there is no other source available and inhale just prior to taking a shower.

This was the most challenging virus I had picked up in a long time. I was aiming overall at defeating post viral fatigue syndrome and the effects of periodontal work.

The fatigue didn't come back as strongly, so I believe the effect of the footbaths is according to remedy. The night sweats that accompany chronic fatigue are not as prominent. I have enough energy now to take care of basic chores without putting them off. I also attempted to drink some tea with peroxide according to recommendation, but will not repeat that, since I found it harsh.

Needless to say taking baths and footbaths and occasional baths on the road with 3% peroxide produced a lot of phlegm initially, and one day black phlegm came out. Footbaths I started out with 500ml and now use 1l. in hot water with epsom salts and tea tree oil. Its a pleasant way to start the day prior to taking a shower. In a bath when on the road I usually buy 6 bottles of 500ml. in a nearby pharmacy and use it as part of the routine.

Other improvements are better complexion and improved varicose veins in my feet. I also have some improvement in cardiovascular function and seem to breathe easier.

I am very concerned that the medical profession has no clue about peroxide and its possible use in properly treating fatigue syndrome, since the alternative is to have you assessed incorrectly as depressed or subjected to treatments which have no effect.

I am hoping that peroxide therapy will help me return to working out and enjoying life a little more.

Here is a story recently recounted in the NY Times. I am certain that peroxide therapy will help this condition:

http://tinyurl.com/ynsy7y

After 2 years of symptons, I gave my friend 1000 mgs daily of Resveratrol. first time in 2 years no symptons. First time in 6 months she can work full time with No side effects. Reserch at University of Rome 2 years ago on rats showes Resveratrol kills all Virus. This is only a week old result so far."

EC: We wrote and asked John for more information:

11/29/2007: Joh replied, "I'm not sure what her clinical condition was at the time. This is in Central America, It took her two years before a diagnoses was made. She had been to sick to work, and losing weight from not being able to keep food down. lots of problems with her skin, and other organs. I found an Internet site that reported on research done at the University of Rome on Rats that was successful in controlling virus in rats by using resveratrol. I had successfully controlled my Pancreatic cancer taking resveratrol, so I gave her daily doses of 500mgs.

All of her symptoms reversed 100% in just 3 or 4 days. She's back working full time. Now, The article I found was published in the Journal of infectious Diseases, and by CIDRAP (University of Minnesota) . More importantly, all articles on the benefits received by resveratrol can be found at www.resveratrolnews.com.

I'm not necessarily interested in having anything published, and I'm sorry I can't be more informative. I'm just hoping more information might become available on the potential benefits by taking resveratrol to those with Lupus. Their are almost no side effects, and it is very affordable. Now research is being done on its potential benefits for herpes, Alzheimer's, cardiovascular problems, cancer prevention, and treatment, and infectious disease. Could it be that Lupus could be added to that list. Thanks for your time. John

Next time, use a nebulizer. They deliver an ultra-fine mist of whatever liquid you put into the reservoir and direct it through a nozzle that you can breath in, or spray on your skin. They now cost under $100!

Hi Wendy,

That was my post you are referring to from 2006 when I still lived in Los Angeles. Yes, I was referring to both 3% drugstore-bought and 35% internet-ordered food grade peroxide. I have been using drugstore-bought 3% peroxide for the hydrogen peroxide inhalation method for at least 5 years now, as needed (viz, a few times a year). I feel quite comfortable using it and prefer it to food grade. Were I to use this remedy every day, I would probably use food grade h202. I use Ted's test to see if there are any contaminants in the drugstore-bought 3% h202. So far, no issues even though I have bought from different grocery stores and drugstores over the years. The h202 inhalation method is still one of my favorite remedies on Earth Clinic and has saved me from getting the flu many, many times.

I have been struggling to get over the flu for the past 6 weeks. I have had a recurring sore throat, but mainly I have been unusually exhausted! I tried everything on your flu page! Nothing helped: vitamin C, zinc, apple cider vinegar, garlic, oregano oil. Finally went to the doc and he prescribed antibiotics (sometimes helps with a virus). Did not do a thing! Anyway, came across Bill's recommendation to inhale peroxide. I have put peroxide in my ear for years (didn't help this time), but never inhaled it. Figured it couldn't hurt! Started to inhale the peroxide, per Bill's instructions and it's now been 36 hours. I am not yet back to 100% but feel so much better! I have tons of energy. When I feel a wave of fatigue hit (the virus trying to come back?), I take more peroxide and the tiredness goes away immediately. Interesting stuff!

I think nebulizing would be more effective to get into the lungs.

Update: The reason I was sick for 2 days was I didn't drink enough water. Bad habit. But as soon as I did, I got better the same day. It just shows why a remedy may not work sometimes. Alot of variance to consider such as nutrition as well. Garlic and pomegranate juice is my main support. It helps immensely. Take care

Dear Art,

Wow, thank you for taking the time to put all of those links together and also for sharing the stories. It is all helpful and I have some studying to do! :)

Thanks again!

~Mama to Many~

Hello Mare,

From your description you are orally ingesting the Colloidal Silver. And that's fine for as a general anti viral. But if I get a bad sinus infection (head cold as you describe) then much, much more effective is the direct application into the sinus cavity via simply sniffing a teaspoon quantity from palm of hand straight into the sinus on both sides.

Also consider ear syringe for ears. The infection might be in the ear canals and the Eustachian tubes could be infected (a typical source of secondary infections; even when one is on antibiotics, it is well known that bacteria can survive in the Eustachian tubes and cause secondary infections).

Hello again Mare,

I've found an inner ear infection can be knocked out with only a few applications. Once a trip to the ocean produced an ear infection; hearing in both ears almost completely closed off. I though perhaps water had gotten caught inside the "labyrinth" but the MD after examining said that both ears were inflamed and infected and gave me a prescription for antibiotics.

Well, I thanked him and promptly went home and using an ear syringe applied Colloidal Silver in both ears....instant relief...I could hear perfectly again. Just to make sure, reapplied later that night. Problem solved.

You may want to try liposomal vit c at high dosages. vit C is a powerful antiviral. There was an Australian man who had his hairy cell leukemia resolve using liposomal Vit C (some sort of 60 Minutes type program featured him and his family's struggle with the medical establishment). HCL is associated with HTLV-2--The same family as HTLV-1, I would think, so it would seem very likely it would respond to vit C.

@Dave: Would you also recommend the Beck Protocol of C.S. alternated w/ Zapping? This method may be more powerful than either alone.

Dave, the way you describe is the rational way to do things. But people are anxious for a quicker cure, so we try many things together or in quick succession!

To Mmsg...somewhere in Europe:

Re your post on the "rational way to do things" ... you are so right. And it costs us in the long run, to be impatient I mean. The methodical process of elimination would tell you which method is working.

Best to you.

I had a virus for two days w/ low fever, sinus congestion, headache, achiness, and tiredness. I tried several remedies, like alkalizing with lemon juice and baking soda and also oil of oregano. I couldn't tell much difference. Then I tried 2 cups of Pau D'Arco tea, one in the afternoon & another that evening. I immediately felt somewhat better. The next morning, I felt a lot better - more energy, no headache, and just a runny nose. I drank 3 large cups throughout the day (using same teabag) and felt 100% better by evening. Even my nose stopped running. Amazing!

To Renee (Bergen) for Chronic virus:

To Alcalize the body, I tried successfully the following: eat potatoes twice a day plus other vegetables. If PH very low (ie 5), add two half glasses of Raw Potatoes Juce a day (to be bought in organic shop, a bit dear but it is worth it). This is very efficient and in a very short delay (2 or 3 days). Of course, as you have a virus, it will be necessary to continue this "treatment" for several weeks, even months depending on the evolution of the PH and of your illness.

Potatoes are the most alcaline food, it is so easy to consume and not too expensive, and so efficient. At the same time, avoid the Acidic food (mainly the animal products, the cereals, oranges, grapefruit...), and keep eating as much Alcaline food as possible : mainly vegetables and fruits, nuts, buckwheat, corn, brown rice, a little bit of white fish two or three times a week, sometimes oily fish (no sea food). I hope this will help you to get better.

Thank you for your testimony. Have a good day. God bless you and all Earthclinic friends.

Yours friendly, Nelly

I tried for over an hour to find out if this virus is lipid coated or not. It is a virus that is coated [ not all viruses are coated ]. It is NOT clear to me whether or not it is a lipid coated virus. It is related in some ways to the HIV virus that IS a lipid coated virus. The BHT works best against viruses that are to some degree lipid coated. That is as much as I could find out. So MAYBE the BHT will help. The BHT surely does not cost much. It seems worth a try. If you choose to give BHT a try start with small amounts and work up to NO more than 350mg of BHT twice a day=700mg of BHT....Oscar

Hi Tiredofvirusuk... I believe that the human T-Lymphotropic Virus is indeed an enveloped virus and so taking remedies like BHT, coconut oil, chanca piedra (as advertized on this site against enveloped viruses) etc may well help your problem:

"HTLV-1 is an enveloped virus that contains two identical copies of a plus single-stranded RNA genome and an outer envelope containing protruding viral glycoproteins. This virus is known as a retrovirus because the RNA genome directs the formation of a DNA molecule, which ultimately acts as the template for synthesis of viral mRNA. Because most retroviruses do not kill their host cells, infected cells can replicate, producing daughter cells with integrated proviral DNA. These daughter cells continue to transcribe the proviral DNA and bud progeny virions."

Source:http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Human_T-lymphotropic_virus_1#Virion_structure (Virion Structure)

Hi Oscar and Bill,

Thanks very much for your replies. Yes I wasn't sure if it was an enveloped virus either but according to what Bill has mentioned it is, so I will give the BHT a try aswell as the other items mentioned by Bill. Thanks so much, I will take these items and give an update periodically on any results good or bad experienced.

Oscar, just thought I'd let you know, I started on the BHT last Monday 4th March 2013. I took one capsule of 350mg (its the Vitamin Research Products) brand and I know from reading all your posts this is the brand you have been using to achieve your truly remarkable results of eliminating the Hep C and B virus for good. So as per your advice I took one capsule on Monday, but had no side effects etc, so on Tues I took one 350mg in the morning and one late afternoon, both on an empty stomach again no effects experienced good or bad. Then on Weds I ramped it up to 2 x 350mg caps in the morning and 2 x 350mg caps in the late afternoon again on empty stomach. On Thursday I did the same so that was 1400mg a day. On the Friday, Sat and Sun I am back to 2 capsules a day as I noticed in your posts you don't recommend more than 700mg a day which is what I'm currently on.

I haven't had any effects as of yet good or bad. I was wondering how long would it take before I have any indication as to whether it is working or not.

As a side point prior to taking the BHT, I was taking ACV a dash in a cup of water with a teaspoon of Manuka honey twice a day - this greatly reduced a chronic pain in the right side of my stomach, I was also taking Black Seed Oil two teaspoons a day and Olive Leaf Extract capsules - around 8 a day.

Although this mix seemed to reduce most of the arthritic pain in my joints it never removed it completely.

However now I am taking the BHT, I have put everything on hold with the exception of the ACV that I am now taking in the evenings only. Do I have to take the BHT on its own or is it okay to take other things during the day - not at the same time as taking the BHT but say an hour or two after, or would you just take the BHT with nothing else ?

I also read the e-book link you posted in one of your posts and that was a very interesting read, so I have high hoped of this BHT in helping me combat this virus I have. How long did it take you before you realised the BHT was working ? Do you think a week is to short to assess whether it is working or not, as at the moment I haven't experienced anything that would indicate to me that it is working or not.

Kindest of regards....

Dear Tired: The HTLV / HIV virus / viruses are indeed lipid enveloped. I keep a list of known lipid-enveloped viruses in The BHT Book, to which Oscar linked years ago.

The book is a free PDF download. To get the latest version, go to the steve page at Project Wellbeing (dot com) and click on the book. Then "save to disk" to archive it on your computer.

Just a note regarding ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses: they are not only lipid-enveloped to make them difficult to treat and very virulent, they also have a special anti-selenium mechanism in their genome, which causes massive depletion of selenium as the virus replicates. It appears that ALL of the hemorrhagic fevers have this selenomethionine-coding sequence. So in my opinion, BHT is fundamentally insufficient as a mono-therapy for hemorrhagic fevers. Selenium supplementation to prevent acute selenium depletion is also needed. As far as I know, this anti-selenium aspect of such viruses is well known, but nobody has yet allowed selenium therapy to be used.

Olive Leaf extract. Take 2 capsules, three times a day, until the bottle is empty. It does not matter if you take them with or with out food.

Also during that time eat one Avocado a day. That will give your body glutathione to assist in powering the immune system.

Take a daily multi vitamin for the antioxidants. Be sure to choose one that has at least daily amount of 1,000 IU of vitamin D and 200 mcg of Selenium. Those will also assist in the a speedier recovery.

Looking forward to your update of a speedy recovery for future people who may unfortunately experience Ross River Fever.

With this new virus that is going around, my husband and I have tried many new ways for relief. We got a small humidifier and use a few drops of eucalyptus oil in it. It works wonderfully. The best sleep we have gotten and the house smells so fresh. It keeps the humidifier clean also.

Tom, excellent report. I suggest that you consider investing in a nebulizer. They cost under $100 now, and they are much more precise at delivering H2O2 deep into the lungs, instead of most of it coating your mouth, throat and bronchial tubes. The ultra-fine nebulizer mist will hang in the air as it sprays out. Atomizers and misters have a coarse mist that falls to the ground as you watch.

Babies can be much more sensitive to oxidative stresses, so you are right on target with your concern. Babies with Down's syndrome undergoing heart-defect surgery have immense oxidative stress. Surgeons did not know how bad it was.

Oxygen therapies can be delivered to the lungs (or through the lungs). But the lungs, sinuses and eyes live in an oxygen atmosphere to the highest degree of all tissues, so they are "closer to the edge" of being overwhelmed by oxidative stress. But they are also more highly adapted to oxygen and oxidative stress. And adaptable.

Oxygen therapies include oxygen gas (from a tank or oxygen concentrator), hyperbaric oxygen (pressurized air), negative ions (superoxide, from a negative ion generator), ozone (NOT good for the lungs, AT ALL), and hypochlorite (bleach, from Asea). I do not know an easy way to pick among these without some scientific, clinical or research expertise to guide you. But access to the scientific and medical literature is available through the internet, so you have a fighting chance. And it only took me one minute to find out that RSV is a lipid-enveloped virus and because of that, potentially susceptible to BHT (butylated hydroxytoluene, a food preservative and antiviral agent, and an antiviral therapy discussed elsewhere in Earth Clinic). Before you get too excited about BHT, I would caution you that it has liver toxicity in humans and lung toxicity in mice. So it would take significant medical supervision to use safely in a baby or infant.

I would suggest that you read The BHT Book (a free PDF download from the steve page at Project Wellbeing (dot com). It will give you two things: (1) an understanding of the context of BHT, and (2) a view of the pro-viral and anti-viral side of vitamins, minerals, nutrients, amino acids, and other components of diet and lifestyle. I think a nutritional strategy is fundamentally safer than using a drug.

For any respiratory viral condition, I would use a nebulizer as my first tool of choice. I do this myself because of my own constitutional susceptibility to sinus and respiratory infection. I have administered vitamin C, colloidal silver and tincture of iodine by this method. Traditionally, nebulizers are used to deliver drugs for asthma and other lung/airway conditions. But they can be used to deliver nutrients. I have not done it, but others have used nebulizers to deliver glutathione to the body through the lungs. The lungs have an immense surface area for nutrient absorption, much greater than the surface skin of the entire body. It's a good strategic back-up plan for situations where swallowing a capsule or tablet is not viable.

Nebulizer costs are now well under $100.

There is also a brief mention of antiviral therapy through vitamin A for measles in children, which I will quote here. "To provide a counterexample to these two liabilities, I offer the following special message regarding measles infections in children. This message deals with the known beneficial effects of vitamin A—one of the antiviral nutrients discussed in the book—on the clinical course of measles infections. When very high doses (approximately 300 times the RDA) of vitamin A were administered in routine clinical practice, the hospital stay was decreased by 20%, the need for intensive care was reduced by 60% and deaths were cut by 68% (Hussey and Klein, 1993). No adverse effects were observed. A previous double-blind study of 189 children hospitalized with severe measles found comparable results (Hussey and Klein, 1990). Of the twelve children who died, ten were in the placebo group and two were in the high vitamin A group."

Best wishes.

Have had a virus or something for 2 months. It seems to be getting better but the phlem continues to build up in my lower throat. I'm continually clearing my throat and coughing. I take a good muti-vitamin and 50 mg of d3, echinecea, 550 mg of c. Any reccommendations?

Wow, stumbled onto this website last night in desperation,I have felt sick every day for the last four months and have been bringing up acid, I have been taking omeprazole with limited effect, and I now realise I have been prescribed 100% the wrong treatment.

Bought Apple cider vinegar tablets this morning and took two, within 15 minites the feeling of sickness went, and have gone all day feeling better than I have for months, this is not in my mind as I am not easily influenced or easily led, I really do feel better and cannot believe how you can get results so quickly, it really does seem that we all have a lot to learn from our past and maybe we should not dismiss new age hippies so quickly.

Thanks to everyone on this site, I will promote this as much as I can.

I also got the sore throat and extreme fatigue the past 2 weeks. Last Friday I started to inhale the peroxide -- 6 pumps every 2 hours. Within 36 hours I was all better.

I am currently going through the HP regimen, increasing drops each day. I am up to 14 drops today. I am surprised that I am dealing with a strong chest cold and sore throat that started 3-4 days ago. I am surprised I contracted this at the same time as taking a significant amount of HP. I thought the HP would be preventing this as it is supposed to kill/protect from viruses or so I thought. Would appreciate comments from anyone understanding more of the science of this.

Thanks to all the good people who posted about using BHT for Covid. And I thank God for helping me find this remedy and already having it on hand, just in case. I got Covid about 6-7 days ago. I tried all my usual virus remedies, but I just kept getting worse. I finally came across the BHT info but, in the fog of Covid, I didn't realize how much I might need to take. So a couple of days with about 2 or 3 180mg doses, and I was still feeling miserable. I would get a little relief, but then the virus would pick up steam again and get worse. Then I started getting unrelenting kidney pain on both sides. I was getting scared at this point. I remembered reading somewhere here that someone took 900mg and kidney pain subsided. Prayed and kept taking it until finally the kidney pain just stopped. It took about 6 doses or 1080mg-- but some of these doses were taken with oil, so they weren't very effective. It does work better without oil (thanks to those who explained this). All doses were taken on an empty stomach. I opened the capsules and put it right on my tongue. Tonight, I still have a lingering headache, slight sore throat, some sinus congestion, and my fever came down from 101.5 to 99.5. I will continue with the BHT until I'm 100% and then I will be taking milk thistle every day for awhile to make sure my liver is fine.

I also took 2 Quercetin and 2 Zinc 30mg each today, and I inhaled diluted food-grade hydrogen peroxide a few times a day throughout. But BHT was what seemed to pull me out of this.

I'm wondering how far apart I need to take milk thistle from BHT. Is several hours apart sufficient?

I've shared this before and perhaps it is even more relevant today: In 2009, I caught a virus on a short plane trip. At the time, there was a lot of Swine Flu around, but I'm not sure what my illness was called. The doctor said she could see a virus attached to the roof of my mouth and explained that there was no cure. I was bed ridden and very sick for two months starting with earache, coughing, chills and fever, culminating in a sensation of the room spinning causing vomiting if I moved my eyes. I wasn't hospitalised, but checked by paramedics at home in case of dehydration as I was vomiting up fluids as well as food, unless I kept my eyes closed. Hearing about my condition, a friend who is a doctor of Osteopathy contacted me with a 'home remedy' for virus. It worked in 24 hours! I returned to the same doctor who confirmed that the virus was no longer attached to the roof of my mouth and asked for the remedy saying that although she would not be able to prescribe it for patients, she would like to have it in case her family ever caught such a thing. News of my fast recovery spread and the daughter of friends contacted me saying that she had a similar illness and I shared the remedy with her. She too recovered straight away. Here it is: One teaspoon of Olive Leaf Extract and one teaspoon of Colloidal Silver in half a glass of water. Drink it straight down and DO NOT REPEAT THE DOSE. Then put the same ingredients in a full glass of water and gargle all of it over the next 24 hours. That's it. It works. All the best, Maria in Canberra

[EC - We emailed Maria asking for more details we thought our readers would want to know. Below is her prompt response.]

Hi Deidre, I still have the original Colloidal Silver bottle and never used it again. It doesn't have a strength written on the bottle, and the brand happens to be Fullhealth Industries. (Someone asked me recently and we found it on Google. ) The Olive Leaf Extract I have at present is Comvita. I gave away the previous bottle when somebody wanted that on its own and was too poor to buy some. Have replaced it with this Comvita. (Any brand will do, it's the combination, the one dose only and the gargling which does the trick.) I always keep these two together in the first aid cupboard just in case. Not used to being sick and that was the worst experience ever. All the best, Maria

You can't overdose on D3. You can overdose on the other forms of D. According to Mayo clinic you can use 80,000 iu of D3 per week for kids under 18 for viruses. 20 minutes out in the sun gives you around 20,000 iu of D3.

Deirdre, I find it easier to just shake some turmeric (and ginger) into my smoothie.

I tried the Oscillococcinum when I got a virus in Chicago once. It worked great. I bought it at Target.

Gina. It looks like more than a simple iron deficiency here. Watch Dr Lonnie Hermon Youtube videos for anemia. The issue is not that you are getting sufficient Iron, but that the iron or Red Blood is being depleted by disease like hemolytic anemia. In simple terms, something is destroying your blood. Have you any diagnostics like Blood Counts of White, Red, and Platelets???