MSG (Monosodium Glutamate) Poisoning

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Posted by Hiral (Chicago, IL) on 01/07/2007
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MSG causes dizzyness and lightheadedness after eating chinese or japanese food. I must agree that MSG is really harmful. Growing up I mostly ate daily cooked Indian food as I am Indian. More recently I have started to eat "out" more and the first thing I noticed after I had this really good tasting fried rice at a Japanese place was that I felt lightheadedness, somewhat dizzy and unable to concentrate. I didn't think much of it until it happened again on another day after eating the same food. A friend of mine told me that it could be MSG. I was curious and I looked it up and it turns out many Asians from the Indian subcontinent or Southeast Asia are definitely reactive to it. When I first had the fried rice, I was unable to determine why it tasted to good. It was definitely not sugar and not salt, it was something different. It just made me want to eat more and more of the rice. I avoid all prepared foods unless I know the ingredients. All Doritos and other bags of chips contain some form of MSG. It is ridiculous how many different foods have it. I now only eat at places that claim to add no MSG but that doesn't mean anything since if the sauces they use already have it then they technically haven't added it themselves. Anyway, it is something you should avoid. All the Indo-chinese restaurants that serve "manchurian bhagis" are nothing more then a brown sauce full of MSG. Why do you think it tastes so good and you can't stop eating it?

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Posted by Nemesis (New York, New York) on 01/07/2009

With all these toxins being dumped on the masses, its amazing so many are still alive and kicking. Where I live, there's so many people and so many kids. I wonder when this stuff finally kicks in, will it be like people gradually dying earlier and blamed on them for their poor lifestyle choices? Or will we have pandemic levels of sudden deaths in the next ten years. Or is all this just to weaken our immune systems so when a pandemic strikes, humans become a minority?

What I don't understand is all the underground bases that are said to have long-term shelters. The government was said to buy out many of the long-term food storage products from several online companies. Are they planning to take a vacation when a pandemic occurs or if things get out of control, do they plan to nuke the masses and come back after the "waste" is removed and the land is safe again?

Where can I get a golden ticket?


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Posted by Heidi (Ogden, UT, USA) on 03/08/2009

to Nemesis from January 09...you hit the nail on the head: there is a push to see the world's human population reduced by 80%, and MSG, fluoride, flu vaccines, and other are the first push to that goal: get us fat, and get us foggy-brained, then they can destroy us more easily.

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Posted by Wayseeker (Modesto, Ca/ Usa) on 09/28/2012

Dear Staff: I am a little concerned that 'whey' was mentioned as a psuedo-nym for MSG. Surely you don't mean the grass-fed protein shake type of whey? How could "they" get away with that kind of misleading misinformation? Trying to make whey look bad, when such a good glutathione booster?!! --T.


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Posted by Holly (California) on 05/12/2017

Amen to that. And what a 'pretty' word 'denatured' is. :) Good Lord. 'Toxitized' is more like it :). Anyway, thank you for your explanation of 'whey'. As one who thought she was going a little nuts when msg-dizzyied I tried to explain to my cast-iron tummy'ied friends that no, I really can't have any of that soy sauce or that way over-boiled spaghetty sauce, your explanation made a lot of sense to me.


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Posted by Martin (New York) on 12/06/2017

Might also have been high salt content in food. I stopped going to a delicious Mexican restaurant in my neighborhood because a burrito they served sent my blood pressure soaring for at least a day. Turned out to be the salt they added to the chicken. No MSG in that food. Scary to go from feeling great to feeling very ill.


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Posted by KT (Usa) on 12/11/2017

Dear Charity,

Would you kindly tell me where you got this information?

KT


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Posted by Kimmi (Park City-wichita, Ks) on 09/22/2011

So sorry, Cindy! I didn't even realize they were full of MSG til last night, when I was reading the ingredients, as MSG also just happens to (perhaps) cause me to have a herpes OB. Ugghh!! I guess I can't use my bouillon granules, either, for that reason, too... Too bad, too.. I was trying to be frugal by using that instead of canned chicken broth. (My luck, THAT has MSG, too! )
This may be why my immune system has been so compromised, too.. Not sure, though. Now I have to figure out what to do with the huge box of Marucan Ramen noodles we got a couple of weeks ago. :/ Siiighh... Sucks... they're so tasty...lol


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Posted by Miko (Orlando, Florida) on 04/05/2015

Just want to ask which is better, Taurine supplements or foods with Taurine. I read that Taurine can be found in fishes like mackerel and salmon; livers of chicken and beef but I don't know how much should be taken daily to remove MSG from the body?


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Posted by Wydo (Ventura, Ca, United States) on 03/29/2011

Is there an antidote for glutamic acid? Is it the same as MSG? Thank you

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Posted by Charlie (Kuala Lumpur) on 03/29/2015

Dear Loria,

Have you recovered from ventricular arrhythmia after taking Magnesium? Hope to hear from you.


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Posted by Jackie (Belfast, Northern Ireland, Ireland) on 06/19/2010

Hi... can anyone confirm if l-glutamine is good or bad for people who are very sensitive to MSG. i have read on this site that it is an antidote to msg and that it displaces it. however on many other sites it says to avoid it if you are sensitive to MSG. can someone please clarify?

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Posted by Merryanne (Orange City, Florida, Usa) on 03/04/2010 115 posts

This is Merryanne in Centeral Fl.,,I am sorry to here about your discomfort with the supplements,,,I get mine in pure form without fillers etc... I hope yu are feeling better soon.


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Posted by Bob (York, England) on 09/27/2010

But what has Maltodextrin to do with MSG? Maltodextrin is simply Maizesugar. Maybe you were wrong. Which reliable Supplement Manufacturer would put MSG in a Calcium Pill? There is no need for a taste enhancement in a pill that you swallow!


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Posted by Robin Little (Alamogordo, Nm) on 10/03/2011

Linda from Enfield, NH

Magnesium is very important for msg sensitive ones. It is much easier to absorb through the skin using Epsom salts baths or magnesium oil.

Also when I feel an msg migraine coming on I take an advil - it blocks the receptor sites, and the migraine never gets established. (I don't like to do this, I am on a strict msg-free diet but sometimes I mess up - or someone else does.)


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Posted by Msgfree (Monterey, C.a) on 01/08/2012

I read in a article that if a person is allergic to msg and consumes msg along with calcium supplements it only makes matters worse for that person. Aside from any discomforting symptoms people also sufffer from memory loss or lack of concentration.


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Posted by Pomegranate (Sw Usa) on 10/09/2015

I have the same problem with maltodextrin in supplements and meds. It gives me the usual migraine I get from natural flavors etc. Powder City cuts their "pure" powders with it, the picamilon, at least. They responded by denying that of course. I have to avoid it, and if it's not declared, and I ingest it, I feel like a truck ran over me for about a week.


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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA) on 01/03/2010

Apparently, there is a problem with _____'s amino acids in this regard. In the raw food community many are up in arms about this because people have looked into it and yes, it is in there just not listed of course as they have a reputation for being "natural and healthy". They (the raw community) are saying to use nama shoyu instead. Just thought I should let everyone know about this. Lisa


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Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 10/22/2013 2063 posts

@Jeannie: In an event like that I would take several spoons or oz's of Colloidal Silver to kill any pathogens and if that didn't work I would take a hot bath w/ several squirts of povidone iodine.

And for safety or prevention I would also take several doses of herbal parasite formula. Sushi can and often does harbor the fish tapeworm eggs. Also other raw foods can harbor Fluke stage which can rapidly multiply in the body and adults can entrench for their lifespan while releasing thousands of offspring. The herb Myrrh is indicated specifically for the flukes.

As for the food additives, one would need to have optimal antioxidant defenses to withstand an uncommonly high level during a meal. I would call the restaurant and ask if and what additives are used. Vit-C is indicated for these acute reactions. OTC antihistamine may also help. Your histamine levels were probably thru the roof during this episode; just guessing but seems likely.


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Posted by Anna (Great Barrington, MA) on 01/09/2009

I was in the grocery store today after reading about MSG last night on various internet sites. I started reading the ingredients on bottles of mayonaisse and juice, 2 items on my grocery list. Every single bottle of mayonaisse had "natural flavors" listed as an ingredient, as did 97% of the juices. Are we to believe that Natural Flavors = MSG?

Outrageous!!

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Posted by Rosy (Orlando, Fl) on 01/09/2009

All natural flavorings should be assumed as MSG, if not the manufactured kind, then the naturally occurring kind, which is just as bad.

I would make your own mayo if you are trying to avoid MSG.

Here's the recipe I used

1 whole egg
2 egg yolks
1 tablespoon Dijon mustard (no MSG)
1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice
1/2 teaspoon sea salt or Celtic salt
1/4 teaspoon white pepper
1 cup Virgin Coconut Oil (Liquid)

1. Put the eggs, Dijon mustard, lemon juice, salt, and pepper into a food processor or blender: Then with the processor or blender running on low speed, start adding your oils very slowly. Start out with drops and then work up to about a 1/16-inch stream. It should take about two minutes to add the oil.
2. Continue blending until there is no free standing oil.

Makes about 1 1/2 cups

It is supper yummy!


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Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 01/10/2009 495 posts

Hello Anna,

Yes natural flavors or natural flavoring = monosodium glutamate (MSG). Devious, aren't they? Try finding a broth or bouillon without MSG. Does this tell you something about Tyson's raw chicken that may contain "up to l5% chicken broth"? Read raw chicken & beef ingredients on Perdue brand.

Now if you want to get more enlightened, start reading ingredients for "hydrolyzed plant (corn, coy, pea, etc) protein" because it = both monosodium glutamate and aspartame. Read the ingredients on what is supposed to be canned vegetables. In a can of Glory brand canned turnip greens and same brand of canned black eye peas, I found MSG, hydrolyzed plant protein, and natural flavors listed on both. Just imagine the total volume of MSG/aspartame people unaware of this are ingesting. I haven't looked at all the other brands, but I have also found some Allen brands of canned green beans have MSG and some don't.

No one should be surprised that obesity, diabetes type 2, Parkinsons and Alzheimer's disease are so rampant in our modern culture that relies so heavily on processed foods. Try finding a pizza with sauce that isn't loaded with MSG - also take a look at those tomato ketchup bottles ingredients kids love so much. Alzheimers is now striking those in their 30's. Only a year or so ago, they were saying it was hitting people in their 60's & up. I suspect it is hitting people even younger than the 30's. According to Blaylock in his book Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills, the older people and the very young are more susceptible to brain destruction from MSG & aspartame; the elderly because of defects in the brain/blood barrier and the young because of immature development of the brain/blood barrier. I think this translates to it isn't the schools dumbing our kids down but the excitotoxins in our food supply that is destroying their brain cells.

Make sure you don't get low on potassium (most of us are low on it these days) because it competes for the same receptor sites as the MSG & aspartame.


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Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 01/12/2009 495 posts

The last sentence in previous reply to MSG question should have read "magnesium" (not potassium) competes with MSG for sites in the brain.


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Posted by Anita (Mccomb, Ms) on 09/03/2009

Here is a very good recipe for Mayonnaise. I started making it to avoid the MSG in food.

Cooked Mayonnaise

Combine in saucepan:
1/3 c. sifted whole wheat flour
1/2 c. sugar
1 t. salt
Add: 3/4 c. water
1/2 c. white vinegar

Cook over low heat, stirring until thickened. Remove from heat and pour into blender. While beating, add:

2 cloves garlic
2 whole eggs

Continue beating and slowly add:

2/3 c. salad oil

Chill before serving.


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Posted by Talat (Fairfax, Virginia) on 01/09/2009

Hello, Please tell me more about the hidden MSG. I am in shock that the FDA would pass this form of trickery. Thanks


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Posted by Terri (West Virginia) on 10/06/2014

Ted, if a person took large doses of L-glutamine (10 grams daily) over a 4 month period, could it sensitize them to glutamate/MSG? Dr. Blaylock reports that L-glutamine can convert to glutamate and cross the blood-brain barrier. What do you think?


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Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn.) on 11/10/2007
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... Most hospitals don't cook any more (just as schools also) but have the food catered and brought into the hospital. Our schools' meals are more atrocious than hospsitals' meals, by far. I would have laughed when I read that schools had petitioned the federal government and got an ok on counting the catsup packet served along with fries as a vegetable, if it hadn't been so pathetic and such potential of damaging our children. I have visited several elementary, middle & high schools over the past few years and seldom saw anything that wasn't grease-laden, sugar laden and most likely also MSG laden. Now with all the hype on the obesity epidemic in our kids (as well as our adultsl) they will probably also be laden with both MSG and aspartame. I agree with Ted that most of our obesity can be attributed to damage from MSG. We will probably see Alzheimer's moving on down into childhood then, as used to be called adult onset diabetes mellitus has, because I believe neurologist Russell L. Blaylock knows what he's talking about when he says that the most deadly form of MSG is any hydrolyzed plant (corn, soy, etc) protein because it kills off both calcium and sodium transport cells of the brain and central nervous system. It seems that separately, they only kill off one type of neuron.


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Posted by Wilda (Woodville, Texas) on 02/03/2015

Had acute respiratory distress 2 times after eating Chineset


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Posted by Artsy (Shelburne, Ontario, Canada) on 01/08/2009

You only know the half of it nemesis. Look up fluoride if you haven't already and what it does to the pineal and thyroid. The pineal is thought to be our third eye. (Third eye blind?) I suppose you're aware of terminator seeds and the huge seed vault they have in the arctic. And don't forget chemtrails. We get hammered here everyday. Be sure you have some heavy metal removers in your personal arsenal against the nwo.


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Posted by Librspr (Lutz, Fl, Usa) on 04/05/2012

And when 80% of the population is gone, who's going to grow the food, produce the clothes, provide the services (like laundering and washing dishes... And cooking)? Seems like the ogliarchy, plutocracy and tyrant-archy have been MSG'd, too: can't think clearly, no concept of consequences, no understanding of slave or serf revolts... if that's where they THINK they're going.

Since families who have been in the U. S. For several generations are, by the world's standards, the craziest and most violent total population since the Imperial Romans, I presume the entire population of the U. S. Is technically "under sentence of death" by deliberate slow chemical poisoning. Of course, so are most of Them. Well, we know (don't we?) what lead and mercury poisoning did to the Imperial Roman upper echelon!

It's not "May we live in exciting times", it's "Look, you're stuck in exciting times, too, Caligula! "


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Posted by Theresa (Linlithgow, Scotland Uk) on 04/23/2012

MSG debate. Been trying to find an antidote as have recently had 2/3 scary times as a result. Once whilst on holiday in Malta and did think I might end up at the local hospital. I am disgusted that there is so much used in our food, and yet I never eat fast food or prepared food and am careful about the stock cubes etc that I buy. Does anyone out there have any idea how much L-glutamine or Niacinamide (B3) to take and is it just if you have an effect of the MSG please? Thanks for the website, most useful and kind of a relief to know I am not alone in these dreadful reaction. PS. I had viral meningitis 2 years ago and I feel this may have made me more susceptible.



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