10 Effective Remedies to Enhance Deep Sleep for Optimal Restoration

on Apr 10, 2023| Modified on Jan 25, 2024
Deep Sleep Remedies

Deep sleep, characterized by delta brain waves and also known as slow-wave sleep (SWS) or non-rapid eye movement (NREM) stage 3 sleep, plays a crucial role in physical and cognitive restoration, memory consolidation, and emotional regulation.

As we age, our sleep patterns often undergo significant changes, with one of the most notable alterations being the reduction in deep sleep duration. Hormonal changes are among the primary factors contributing to the disruption of deep sleep cycles in older individuals.

This article will explore the nature of deep sleep, its importance for overall health, and how aging and hormonal changes can disrupt deep sleep cycles. Additionally, we will discuss how smartwatches can monitor deep sleep and provide a list of top 10 remedies to enhance deep sleep and improve overall sleep quality.

Understanding Brain Waves and Sleep Stages

The sleep cycle consists of several stages, each characterized by specific brain wave patterns. As we progress through the sleep stages, our brains exhibit different brain wave patterns leading up to deep sleep.

Alpha and Theta Waves: Transition to Sleep

Alpha waves (8-12 Hz): These brain waves are dominant during relaxed wakefulness and mark the transition between wakefulness and the early stages of sleep.

Theta waves (4-7 Hz): These brain waves occur during the lighter stages of NREM sleep, specifically NREM stage 1 and 2 sleep, and are associated with decreased overall brain activity. 1

Delta Waves: Deep Sleep

Deep sleep, or slow-wave sleep (SWS), is characterized by delta brain waves with a frequency range of 0.5-3 Hz. 1  During this stage, several important restorative processes occur:

  • Muscle and tissue repair: The body repairs damaged tissues and promotes muscle growth, essential for overall health and well-being.
  • Growth hormone release: The pituitary gland releases growth hormone, which supports growth, cell reproduction, and cell regeneration.
  • Immune system strengthening: Deep sleep helps boost the immune system, allowing the body to better fight infections and maintain overall health.
  • Toxin and waste product clearance: The brain's glymphatic system clears away toxins and waste products during deep sleep, allowing for optimal cognitive function upon waking.2

Understanding the Importance of Deep Sleep in the Sleep Cycle

The sleep cycle consists of multiple NREM sleep stages, followed by rapid eye movement (REM) sleep. The sleep cycle typically lasts about 90-120 minutes and repeats throughout the night. Deep sleep (SWS) predominantly occurs during the first half of the night, with each subsequent sleep cycle containing less deep sleep and more REM sleep.

As we progress through the night, the duration of deep sleep decreases while REM sleep increases. This cyclical nature of deep sleep within the sleep cycle is crucial for maintaining a balance between restorative processes and cognitive functions, such as memory consolidation and emotional regulation. 3

Monitoring Deep Sleep with Smartwatches

Smartwatches, such as the Apple Watch and Garmin devices, have become increasingly popular for their ability to track various health metrics, including sleep patterns. These devices use built-in sensors to monitor your movements and heart rate, allowing them to provide insights into your sleep stages, including the duration of deep sleep.

By regularly wearing a smartwatch to bed, you can gain valuable insights into your sleep patterns and analyze the amount of deep sleep you're getting each night. Most smartwatches come with accompanying apps that display sleep data in an easy-to-understand format, providing a comprehensive view of your sleep quality. If you notice that your deep sleep duration is lower than recommended, you can try implementing the natural remedies and lifestyle changes discussed in this article to improve your sleep quality.

Deep Sleep Recommendations By Age Group

While deep sleep accounts for approximately 20 - 25% of total sleep duration in adults, this percentage may be higher in children and decreases as we age. The following chart outlines the approximate deep sleep duration recommended for different age groups:

Age Group Deep Sleep Duration
Newborns (0 - 3 months) 3.5 - 4.25 hours
Infants (4 - 11 months) 3 -3.75 hours
Toddlers (1 - 2 years) 2.75 -3.5 hours
Preschoolers (3 - 5 years) 2.5 -3.25 hours
School-aged children (6 - 13 years) 2.25 -2.75 hours
Teenagers (14 - 17 years) 2 -2.5 hours
Young adults (18 - 25 years) 1.75 - 2.25 hours
Adults (26 - 64 years) 1.75 - 2.25 hours
Older adults (65+ years) 1.75 - 2 hours 

These recommendations are based on the assumption that deep sleep accounts for 20-25% of total sleep duration, as suggested by the National Sleep Foundation. It is essential to note that individual sleep requirements may vary, and factors such as lifestyle, stress, and health conditions can influence the amount of deep sleep needed.

The Impact of Hormonal Changes on Deep Sleep Cycles with Aging

The disruption of deep sleep cycles with aging is a common phenomenon that affects many individuals. As we grow older, the structure of our sleep patterns undergoes changes, leading to a decrease in the duration of deep sleep. Several factors contribute to this change, including four hormonal changes which significantly impact our sleep quality.

1. One hormone that affects our sleep patterns is melatonin, which regulates our circadian rhythm. As we age, melatonin production decreases, leading to difficulty falling and staying asleep. This decrease in melatonin production can also reduce deep sleep duration in older adults.

2. Growth hormone is another hormone that plays a crucial role in our sleep patterns. It promotes tissue repair, muscle growth, and overall rejuvenation. However, as we age, the production of growth hormones decreases, leading to a decline in deep sleep duration.

3. Cortisol, commonly known as the stress hormone, also affects our sleep quality. As we age, cortisol production becomes dysregulated, leading to higher cortisol levels at night. This can result in difficulty falling and staying asleep, leading to a decrease in deep sleep duration.

4. Lastly, sex hormones, such as estrogen and testosterone, also significantly impact our sleep patterns. As we age, the levels of these hormones decrease, leading to changes in our sleep structure. For instance, women going through menopause often experience disruptions in their sleep patterns due to a decrease in estrogen levels.

Top 10 Remedies to Boost Deep Sleep

To help improve deep sleep and overall sleep quality, consider incorporating some of these top 10 natural remedies and supplements into your daily routine. Each remedy has been shown to positively impact deep sleep duration and quality, providing a restful night's sleep for better health and well-being.

1. Melatonin 

Melatonin is a hormone the pineal gland produces that regulates the sleep-wake cycle. Supplementing with melatonin can help improve sleep quality and increase the duration of delta-wave sleep. The recommended dosage for melatonin varies from 0.5 mg to 5 mg, taken 30 minutes to 2 hours before bedtime. 5

2. Magnesium

Magnesium is a vital mineral involved in numerous biochemical processes, including those that support relaxation and sleep. Magnesium supplements may improve sleep quality, particularly in individuals with insomnia or magnesium deficiency.

A commonly recommended dosage for magnesium is 200-400 mg, taken 1-2 hours before bedtime. 6

3. L-Theanine 

L-Theanine is an amino acid in tea leaves that promotes relaxation and stress reduction. Supplementing with L-theanine may help improve sleep quality and increase the duration of deep sleep. The recommended dosage for L-theanine is 100-200 mg, taken 30 minutes to 1 hour before bedtime. 7

4. Glycine 

Glycine is an amino acid that acts as a neurotransmitter, playing a role in regulating sleep. Supplementing with glycine can improve sleep quality and increase deep sleep duration. The recommended dosage for glycine is 3 grams, taken 30 minutes to 1 hour before bedtime. 8

5. GABA (Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid) 

GABA is an inhibitory neurotransmitter that is crucial in promoting relaxation and reducing neuronal excitability. Supplementing with GABA may help enhance sleep quality and increase the duration of delta-wave sleep. The recommended dosage for GABA is 100-200 mg, taken 30 minutes to 1 hour before bedtime. 9

6. Valerian Root 

Valerian root is an herbal supplement that promotes relaxation and improves sleep quality. Some studies suggest that valerian root may help increase the duration of deep sleep. The recommended dosage for valerian root is 300-600 mg, taken 30 minutes to 2 hours before bedtime. 10

7. 5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan) 

5-HTP is a precursor to serotonin, a neurotransmitter that regulating mood and sleep. Supplementing with 5-HTP may help improve sleep quality by increasing serotonin levels, which can subsequently increase melatonin production. The recommended dosage for 5-HTP is 100-300 mg, taken 30 minutes to 1 hour before bedtime. 11

8. Lavender 

Lavender is an herb known for its calming properties. Some studies suggest that the scent of lavender oil may help improve sleep quality and increase the duration of deep sleep. The recommended dosage for lavender essential oil is 2-4 drops, added to a diffuser or applied topically to pulse points before bedtime. 12

9. Tryptophan 

Tryptophan is an essential amino acid that serves as a precursor to serotonin and melatonin, which are involved in regulating sleep. Supplementing with tryptophan may help improve sleep quality by increasing serotonin and melatonin levels. The recommended dosage for tryptophan is 500-1000 mg, taken 30 minutes to 1 hour before bedtime. 13

10. Chamomile 

Chamomile is an herb traditionally used to promote relaxation and improve sleep quality. Some studies suggest that chamomile may help increase the duration of deep sleep. The recommended dosage for chamomile is 200-400 mg of chamomile extract, taken 30 minutes to 1 hour before bedtime, or 1-2 cups of chamomile tea. 14

Conclusion

Incorporating these natural remedies and supplements into your daily routine can help enhance deep sleep and optimize restorative processes. By understanding the importance of delta brain waves, the role of deep sleep in overall health, and the changes that occur with aging, individuals can make informed decisions about their sleep habits and adopt strategies to improve sleep quality.

Consult a healthcare professional before starting any supplementation, as individual needs and tolerances may vary. Prioritizing deep sleep is essential for maintaining overall health and well-being.

Let us know what natural remedies or supplements you've found helpful for deep sleep! Submit your remedy!


Citations:

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  8. Mocking, R. J., Harmsen, I., Assies, J., Koeter, M. W., Ruhé, H. G., & Schene, A. H. (2016). Meta-analysis and meta-regression of omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation for major depressive disorder. Translational Psychiatry, 6(3), e756.
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In my 80s with peripheral vascular disease and I walk that amount of time almost daily. I STILL do not sleep well at night!


Melatonin

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Posted by Deirdre (NC) on 04/11/2023
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Regarding Deep Sleep Deprivation:

I always had a sneaking suspicion I was not getting enough deep sleep at night, but it wasn't until I got a smartwatch recently that I saw how shockingly little I get in the deep sleep cycle each night. While the recommended range for adults in my age group is 1.75 to 2.25 hours of deep sleep each night, I was averaging 13 minutes up to 28 minutes the past 6 nights.

I started my smartwatch sleep monitoring without any usual Magnesium or Melatonin for the first couple of nights and my deep sleep average was a dismal 13 to 17 minutes. Once I added magnesium, it went up about 10 minutes. Last night I took 40 mg of melatonin (my usual dose when I take it) and my deep sleep total amount went up to 47 minutes last night. Woo hoo! Still under but better. I'll report back as I experiment more with supplements, herbs and exercise. I highly recommend a smartwatch if you're interested in how much deep, core, and REM sleep you're getting each night. Very interesting.

And a big thanks to Art for all of his articles on melatonin. I never would have experimented with higher doses, had it not been for all of his research and postings!

Replied by Art
(California)
04/11/2023
2136 posts

Thank you for the critical feedback information, Deirdre! This is an important feature about melatonin that you would never know if you were just taking it and not monitoring as you are. Melatonin can not only increase deep sleep, but it can also increase REM sleep which are both useful for promoting overall health. Again, you would not normally know that such changes are taking place, but it is and it is a healthful change. Melatonin works in the background helping to maintain your body in a state of homeostasis. All things you would not know or realize unless you tested these aspects of health before and after taking melatonin.

Art

Carla
(California)
11/03/2023

About melatonin for sleep...i have tried 5mg before bed, but no change. I saw you mention higher dosage. I am 76 and do not get more than 5 hours of sleep. I am tired. Sluggish and depressed. I would like to try the higher dosage. What would you recommend? And should I add other supplements?

Replied by Sam
(Miami)
04/12/2023

Based on my very extensive research occasionally taking melatonin is okay, but never long term.

I had a sleep study in a sleep clinic and my sleep index was 37% (85% and higher is normal). They know how to treat an obstructive apnea, but have no clue about central apnea, fragmented sleep, night time sympathetic activation, etc.

Absolutely nothing works for me, including melatonin (trust me I've tried everything there's to try -supplements, healing modalities, therapeutic devices, earthing, red light therapy, sun light therapy, mind body connection, hypnosis etc). I am not looking for any advice on insomnia here, I know too much to believe that a pill would help/cure me. Just want to warn you that there's more than an eye can see when it comes to supplemental melatonin. Just like with cancer, a radical surgery won't cure you of cancer, the same with melatonin and other supplements- find the root cause, which could be environmental, and the body will heal itself.

A Neurosurgeon's Take On Melatonin.
Https://geelongosteopaths.com.au/a-neurosurgeons-take-on-melatonin/

TIME #17: MELATONIN AND INSULIN ARE SOLAR METRONOMES
Https://jackkruse.com/time-17-melatonin-insulin-solar-metronomes/

Art
(California)
04/12/2023
2136 posts

Sam,

I just read the link from the neurosurgeon's take on melatonin and he is partially correct, but the most important thing he didn't say was that melatonin levels decline with age and reach a very low level by age 45, right when age-related diseases start to increase. He also didn't mention that melatonin is produced in the gut at a rate that is estimated to be 400 times the amount produced by the pineal gland. This production of melatonin in the gut helps maintain the health of the gut microbiome, but with the age-related decline of melatonin, gut health suffers and this becomes very apparent around age 50. Melatonin is produced throughout the body and the body has melatonin receptors throughout.

Age variations of melatonin levels. The hormone secretion increases in early childhood. In adolescent there is a decrease of the hormone concentration. The levels continued to decline gradually during middle age. In old population the levels of melatonin in serum are very low. (Modified from [88]).

Supplementing melatonin can help compensate for this age-related decline and help to maintain our health well beyond age 50. He is only looking at one part of the puzzle and is not seeing the larger picture. Declining melatonin levels is in no way healthy for us. Ignoring that fact by saying the body makes enough melatonin on its own is just foolish and detrimental to our health.

Art

Marcia
(IL)
04/21/2023

Sam in Miami.. Did you ever have a flu vax or any other & then had sleeping issues? I provided cpaps & bipaps to patients for many years. While talking with the patients, I observed that most of the Central Sleep Apnea patients were regularity getting vaccinated. Sad to say, most doctors do not understand the difference between Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA) & Central Sleep Apnea.

Replied by Sam
(Miami)
04/12/2023

Taking melatonin orally long term can lead to serious eye damage, according to these studies. They appear to thin your retina by ruining photoreceptor regeneration.

Impact of oral melatonin on the electroretinogram cone response
Https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2785757/

Melatonin increases photoreceptor susceptibility to light-induced damage.
Https://iovs.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2160933

Art
(California)
04/12/2023
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Sam,

In your first study(2009) people were given melatonin at a time when melatonin would not normally be present in significant amounts in the eyes. Melatonin should mainly be taken at night except for serious diseases such as Covid-19 or late stage cancer. Also the study only had 12 participants and since it was an RCT only 6 participants got melatonin. It is hard to draw meaningful conclusions from such a small study.

Melatonin has protective effects on the eyes when taken at night when its presence in the eyes is normal. The following study(2016) discusses what melatonin does in the eyes to help prevent age related macular degeneration :

Here is a relevant study quote :

' Melatonin behaves like synthetic mitochondria-targeted antioxidants, which concentrate in mitochondria at relatively high levels; thus, melatonin may prevent mitochondrial damage in AMD. The retina contains telomerase, an enzyme implicated in maintaining the length of telomeres, and oxidative stress inhibits telomere synthesis, while melatonin overcomes this effect. These features support considering melatonin as a preventive and therapeutic agent in the treatment of AMD. '

Your second study (1992) is an animal study that again gave the animals melatonin during a time when the pineal gland would not be excreting melatonin into the system and then they exposed the rats to high intensity lighting for 24 hours straight to induce photodamage and then they returned the rats to normal light cycling, before killing and removing their eyes for examination. I'm not sure what the point of this study was because these are not real life conditions that humans would likely ever be exposed to except possibly under torture, but it certainly does not prove that melatonin taken under normal conditions is deleterious to the eyes by any stretch of the imagination.

Normally light exposure suppresses melatonin production and excretion by the pineal gland so the eyes would not normally have significant amounts of melatonin during the day. On the other hand suppression of melatonin at night from artificial night lighting is unhealthful as discussed here :

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/blue-light-has-a-dark-side#:~:text=Exposure to light suppresses the, circadian rhythm and melatonin secretion.

Here is a relevant quote :

' Exposure to light suppresses the secretion of melatonin, a hormone that influences circadian rhythms. Even dim light can interfere with a person's circadian rhythm and melatonin secretion. '

I am not aware of any studies that prove that long term exposure to melatonin is bad for our health and on the contrary there are many studies suggesting that long term use of melatonin implies multiple health benefits as melatonin is protective of most major organs in the body, including the eyes and helps to prevent or treat cardiovascular disease.

There are over 31,000 melatonin studies on just PubMed alone and I don't think they continue to do an ever increasing number of melatonin studies because it is bad for our health, on the contrary they continue to research melatonin because of its multiple health effects throughout the body. I have read hundreds of melatonin studies and melatonin is clearly very good for our health. That is why I have taken high dose melatonin for over a decade.

Art

Wendy
(Canada)
04/21/2023
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I too have taken Melatonin for just about 20 years.

I read a book on it many years ago with all the studies and found nothing bad about it. I sleep well with it. I take 3 mg every night. ( 7 hour sleep and refreshed in the morning).

David
(Vancouver)
05/21/2023

Art, just want to thank you for the effort in critiquing the studies cited.

Too many times research papers, even "peer reviewed" RCTs, reach conclusions not worthy of citing due to a plethora of issues calling into question the validity of the research. John Ioannidis took a deep look at this subject circa 2005. For anyone interested, here is a link to that paper.

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

John P. A. Ioannidis

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124
https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

Replied by Jules
(California)
04/12/2023

40 mg melatonin?? Averages sleep supplements are 3 - 5 mg.

EC: Please read some of the many articles and posts on EC from Art about melatonin.

Replied by Madelyn
(Idaho)
04/13/2023

Hi Art,

Have you looked at the Melatonin Book by Jeff Bowles. I can't remember the exact name of the book, but in it he includes tons of research on taking high dose melatonin and all of its numerous benefits. Thought you might be interested, if you haven't already seen it.

Take care,
Madelyn

Art
(California)
04/13/2023
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Thank you for the recommendation, Madelyn!

I have not read the book, but I will look for it.

Art

Replied by Char
(Tx)
04/22/2023

Which magnesium is best.....there are several, and I don't seem to have found the right one.

Annie
(Washington)
01/24/2024

I've tried a number of brands, and found Mercola's Magnesium L-Threonate to be the best, and it's easy on the gut.

Replied by david
(portland oregon)
04/22/2023

one reason why you might not be getting deep sleep is that the smart watch against your body exposes you to microwave radiation which is the same frequency as a cell phone. microwave radiation interferes with the body's production of melatonin. what an ironic situation. if you look at the precautionary information with your cell phone it will tell you to keep an inch from your body. a little known fact. many people with smart watches report skin irritations and other problems. get rid of the watch, get rid of your cell phone, get rid of wi-fi and replace with hard wired internet connections. check out www.ehtrust.org

Deirdre
(NC)
04/22/2023

Thanks, David. Those are good points, but I had sleeping issues for a few years before I started wearing an Apple watch two weeks ago. I used the smartwatch for about 10 days, gathered sleep data, made a few changes that have helped (such as no caffeine in the afternoon), and now no longer wear it at night as I have a good idea of the quality of my sleep. It was incredibly helpful, though, I must say.

Here's an article from Apple's legal on their 42mm watch RF exposure information: https://www.apple.com/legal/rfexposure/watch1,2/en/.

If you turn a smartwatch to Airplane mode when you sleep (which will disconnect it from Wifi and BlueTooth), you won't get radiation. One can always test RF with an inexpensive Dr. Gauss meter if curious about the RF levels from a watch too.

Art
(California)
05/22/2023
2136 posts

Thank you for the relevant feedback, David!

It is unfortunate about the politics and money involved in studies, but that is the world we live in. I am always excited about supplements that fair well in meta analysis and multi study reviews, because that is not an easy feat for supplements to achieve. Study quality is frequently an issue.

Melatonin is one supplement that generally fairs well under such increased scrutiny and is just one of the reasons why I like melatonin as much as I do.

Art

Art
(California)
11/03/2023
2136 posts

Carla,

It has been my experience that melatonin does not work for everyone for the purpose of improving sleep. In the people it does help, 5 mg would show benefit of some sort, but you got no benefit at all and that suggests that a higher dose is not going to be helpful for sleep.

Art

Art
(California)
11/03/2023
2136 posts

Carla,

I forgot to answer the other part of your question, other possible supplements for sleep.

You might consider a multi supplement sleep aid such as this one :

https://www.amazon.com/MidNite-Drug-free-Chewable-Supplement-Melatonin/dp/B00I9HGMV2/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Read some of the 3, 982 reviews by people who have used it and see what you think. Based on the number of reviews as well as the number of positive reviews this is one of the better options available for sleep.

Art

Replied by sheila
(Nebraska)
11/07/2023

Deirdre- what watch did you purchase? I am so confused as to which one to buy? TIA

EC: I got an Apple watch. 

Deirdre


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A sleep combo of omega 3, soy lecithin (two forms) and a swallow of honey

At bedtime I take a combo of 4 items that I am pretty happy with for sleep. The first item is large softgel of Spring Valley 1000 mg omega 3 fish oil concentrate, sold on the shelf next to Walmart pharmacies. The brain has a sizable percentage of DHA.

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Replied by Teri
(America)
04/13/2023

That is such good info. So you take a 1000 mg softgel of omega 3, a 1200 mg softgel of liquid soy lecithin, AND a small 1/2 tsp of soy lecithin powder?

Tom
(Livingston, Tx)
04/17/2023
64 posts

Yes Teri, and thanks. That is what I take evenings for sleep.

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(Livingston, Tx)
04/17/2023
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Tom
(currently Sonoita, AZ)
05/01/2023
64 posts

This is an insightful, kids ADHD melatonin/sleep article: Https://www.secondopinionnewsletter.com/Health-Alert-Archive/View-Archive/15288/The-Underlying-Cause-of-ADHD--and-the-Easy-Treatment-to-Fix-It.htm

Maybe hyperactive kids have also become deficient in phospholipids like phosphatidylcholine which are refined out of dietary oils. Maybe hyperactive kids have also become deficient in omega-3 fats. Sour cherries apparently have twice the melatonin content as sweet cherries.

Tom
(currently Sonoita, AZ)
05/02/2023
64 posts

The best thing that has noticeably helped my concentration is beet root powder (BRP), at just a rounded measuring teaspoon, mornings. I noticed a lack of concentration at my laptop several days after I had stopped taking the beet root powder. I have tried about 3 different BRP products, the Horbaach BRP and Box Nutra's BRP, and the sweetest tasting by far is from Nuts.com. I think BRP would be something to try for ADHD to increase concentration. The BRP apparently increases nitric oxide which dilates the blood vessels in the brain, so they are using it in the elderly for Alzheimer's and dementia.


Reishi Mushroom

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Posted by joncrowley (MA) on 04/11/2023 4 posts
★★★★★

I take 4 eye droppers of a dual extract (water infusion & alcohol extraction combined) of Reishi mushroom about 30 minutes before bed and it relaxes me so much that I drift to sleep naturally and effortlessly.

https://theworldofsleep.com/reishi-mushroom-for-sleep/


Taurine

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Posted by Art (California) on 04/11/2023 2136 posts
★★★★★

EC,

I would say that Taurine would be a good addition to the list. Although Taurine is an active component in many energy drinks that are meant to help you stay active with more energy, when taken at bedtime, not in the form of an energy drink, it can also help you to relax and fall asleep and potentially sleep longer.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-15126-7_58

Here is a relevant quote :

' A positive correlation was also observed between dietary taurine intake and the total sleep score. In particular, positive correlations were observed between dietary taurine intake and sleep scores for questions including ‘take a long time to fall asleep (p < 0.05)', ‘difficult to fall asleep again during fitful sleep (p < 0.05)', and ‘continuously sleepy in the morning (p < 0.05)'. '

Art



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