Cirrhosis Treatment

Dear Sheshe from Oregon, here is what S.from Sacramento reported in this forum regarding BHT and liver damage:

03/23/2012: S from Sacramento, California replies: "Hello everyone, I would like to post my results after a little over a month of BHT 2x a day 350. These results are amazing. I have normal liver function thanks to this forum. Thank you, Oscar!!

Now:

Ast 19 (13-39)
Alt 30 (7-52)
Ggt 20 (9-64)
Bilirubin total 0.2 Low (0.3-2.0)

Before I was told in 2006 that I had stage 4 liver damage due to my hepC that my counts were in the millions with this other test done by oncologist.

Oscar

Primary Billary Cirroshsis, Laurie from Groton, Ct . I wanted to know if Lauie's brother is still well after starting to juice as mentioned in the reply she gave to Jennifer, from South Bend In. Thanks, Abby

Hello, your results are encouraging. I was told 4 years ago I had ZERO cirrhosis and today I have stage 4 cirrhosis. I was diagnosed with hep c 4 years ago also and was told I had lots of time and I could safely wait till the new hep c treatment came available (pill form) now I am really scared wondering why it just went from 0 to stage 4 so fast. Is there anything that can help reverse this? And does anyone know why or what would cause such a rapid scaring? I haven't drank alcohol in over 10 years.

With the liver protocol, is there a support for the enlarged spleen that goes along with it?

After reading the post on using BHT, I had a question. After my Harvoni treatment I no longer have HEP C but would the BHT protocol help with the Cirrhosis on the liver and the enlarged spleen?

Intercept pharmaceuticals just finished a successful phase 3 study, there is hope - http://www.thestreet.com/story/12530749/1/intercept-pharma-drug-scores-pivotal-study-win-against-rare-liver-disease.html

Burt: Yes he can. There are famous stories of many people who have recovered from deaths door. The reason is easy. He doesn't have a disease. He has a condition. Wild herbivores don't have conditions because they eat raw organic vegetation. Wild carnivores don't have conditions because they eat raw green fed herbivores. His condition is caused by eating cooked conventionally grown food. Eating right changes the condition from getting worse to getting better in seconds. This may seem hard to believe but all he needs to do is improve the gut. The cells in the gut require the same nutrients as the rest of the body. Let's suppose the gut is in the worst shape imaginable. He is going to need probiotics that make it through the stomach acid. There is one on Amazon that has the most favorable reviews. Oxy powder gets rid of the crusted gunk that prevents nutrients from entering the blood and where pathogens hide behind. He needs parasite cleanse. The three herbs are wormwood, clove, and black walnut hulls. Crushed papaya seeds, papaya, and pineapple are good. Make green smoothies from organic baby leaves and organic chili. This is not a diet. He has to take a lot with water frequently. Every 2 hours would be good. Organic strawberries are the best fruit. Desiccated liver is the best meat. Expeller pressed coconut oil and black chia seeds are the best fats. Activated barley is the best carb. Keep fat below 5%/g of carbs. Non denatured whey is the best protein. Hawaiian spirulina, chlorella, and raw cocoa powder are the best super foods. Take 2g/4x/day colostrum and 1ml/4x/day skate liver oil. Make sure he takes all of the items or he'll mis required nutrients.

My brother cured cirrhosis of the liver with wheatgrass juice, green smothies w/spinach, and a liver tonic. The wheatgrass was flash frozen raw. He was getting on the transplant list but because of his acities and terrible condition none of the drs thought he would make it. He also had a condition with his kidneys that would eventually require a transplant. That has been reversed also. I hope this will help you. It didn't happen over night, But each day things got a little bit better.

Hi, My husband who is 56 years old is a type 2 diabetic with hypothyrodism and has been recently diagonised with Liver Cirohsis ---which is in an intial stage. He is a non alcoholic and non smoker and a vegetarian. He is otherwise very active and shows no symptoms. On routine tests of LFT, CBC and KFT we found that the CBC showed low platelets and LFT showed increased Billirubin and increased Alkaline phohsphatase.. On an ultrasound we found enlargement in spleen and hence continued the investigations to know the cause of Spleno megaly and increased AFT... Although it has been established that he has Cirohsis of Liver the score of which is 5% currently the cause of Cirohsis is still under diagnosis and should be known by this week end... For the past ten days he has been on a low salt diet and only raw vegetable juices and boiled veges for food along with home made cottage cheese - ( 100 gm ) per day and sprouts and yoghurt..... And of course no spices at all except cumin seed powder on yoghurt and a little turmeric on veges while coooking... Wanted to know more from you if you can help on the different diets that could be given and also the quantity of juice that can be consumed each time of the day. Your comment above is a great source of encouragement... And hence looking forward for help and advise... Thank you and God Bless! Lalita

Lalita, Please look into pranic healing. Since you are in India, you can google and find many healers who specialize in this form of healing which will help him resolve his issues. Good luck, T

Lalita, you seem to be doing good diet so far. Much more will be needed. Here are some web links that will help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt251o0y05I

http://www.liversupport.com/

http://www.liverdoctor.com/

Your doctor should give you urso. As a dietary supplement, you might want to try curcumin or milk thistle. I live in IN as well, and my wife has PBC. Take care.

Dear Laurie from Groton, What type of liver tonic did your brother used? Did he have ARPKD? My douther has ARPKD, and the fact your brouther healed him self is so incoraging for us!!!!!!

Thank you so much for sharing!!!!! love & health, Haya

Hi, I have PBC (primary biliary cirrhosis) and my hormone doctor wants me to take progesterone. I already have cirrhosis so my liver is not functioning like a normal persons and so I am wondering if anyone has taken progesterone with PBC. My labs are all normal after starting URSO about six years ago but I don't know how much of my liver is functioning, still. My hepatologist tells me everything is fine based on my liver enzymes but I know they reflect my current state and in no way reveal anything about damage that has already occurred.

So, I am wondering if it is safe to take progesterone in a low dose cream and also would like to know if alpha lopeic acid is safe on a cirrhotic liver.

Thanks!

Saundra: I have used any one of the natural derived hormone supplements like Pregnenalone or DHEA for over two decades and with fatty liver as well as chronic active viral hep with only good effects. From what I know on Progesterone is also mostly or only benefits as concerns women. Only dangers or warnings I am aware of is the synthetic equivalent prescription estrogen. So if your doc is encouraging you to use the Yam derived progesterone this is a bonus as you can have regular checkups to determine the effects.

As for your liver, ALA is one of several nutrients with big benefits. The best approach is "broad spectrum" product that contains synergistic nutrients or herbs that have best overall healing outcomes. The website Liversupport.com has good basic info pages on most liver conditions and they sell specially designed products that have proven good results. Here is the link for your perusal:

http://www.liversupport.com/

Tim,

What liver disease and what stage of liver disease are you? With PBC, the liver has a difficult time clearing hormones from the body so that is my one concern as I am stage 4 cirrhosis. No one knows exactly how much function I have left so I'm not into compromising an unknown at this point.

I appreciate your input, but am not convinced it's okay for me, yet, considering where I am at.

Saundra

Saundra: I have not had the convenience of being properly diagnosed by the medical profession, but I eventually figured out that my symptoms were exactly as described for PBC. I tried eating cooked beef or chicken liver and got much better until I took a Hep-C vaccine and came down with chronic active viral hep which has been going on for more than 2 decades.

You are correct in a sick liver unable to properly metabolize hormones so supplementing any would not likely help. I would encourage you to transfer your treatment modality from pharmaceutical based to natural which is very much the best option for recovery rather than accepting that there is no cure and you will never get better. The Liver is a remarkably regenerative organ and it takes about 90 days to grow a new one. There are several multi-herb & nutrient products on liversupport.com that are designed specifically for certain liver diseases. Pick a product that best suits PBC and also either supplement Raw Liver Tablets or eat cooked chicken or beef Liver regularly. A good herbal product for the liver should contain Milk Thistle, Artichoke, Turmeric, and Dandelion. Choline or Methionine may be needed to help burn fat. An anti-inflammatory diet will help much as inflammation prevents the replication of healthy cells and results in cirrhotic ones.

I was dx with aih at 57 yrs old. Always battling with my weight. I had nash that became stage 3 and 4 cirrohosis. Was not put on the proper meds at first. I have been on cellcept, for over 5 yrs and the dr said I would have to be on it for the rest of my life. My thing is that every time I have asked about taking other therapies or vitamins they don't encourage it only milk thistle which I don't take. I do get scanned every year, and blood tests every 3 months to check my liver enzymes. I had my last martini right before I became ill, I really do miss drinking but now being 62 I don't go out as much as I used to. As a result of taking prednisone I became diabetic and have high blood pressue. Anyone have any suggestions or does anyone take this medication. Thanks

Is The paelo diet recommended for primary biliary cirrhosis?

My father is currently suffering from stage 4 cirrhosis and hep c. What is the liver tonic you used? My father is currently on 5 oz of wheatgrass per day.

Yes, take the Serra or Nattozymes to remove the scar tissue. The Lipotropic nutrients B-Complex, Carnatine, Lecithin/Choline, Methionine & B-12 will remove the fat. Doing these remedies simultaneously is very important so as to allow healthy liver cells to repopulate those areas of former "dead space".

Oh, it is also very important to explore the likely possibility of gallstones (which can cause the fatty liver which causes fibrosis). Taking any kind of medicine which is hepatotoxic with the presence of gallstones greatly increases the likelihood of disease.

Inflammation is also a major problem with fibrosis. Use a strong magnet directly over the liver to reduce inflammation.