Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- POPULAR REMEDIES
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Supplements
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Supplements
- Avoid Trans Fats
- Baking Soda
- Blackstrap Molasses
- Book Reviews
- Carrot Juice
- Cholesterol Testing
- Coconut Oil
- Curry Leaf
- Dark Chocolate
- Dietary Changes
- EDTA Chelation
- Exercise, Diet, Coconut Oil and Omega 3s
- Fish Oil
- Flax Seeds
- Garlic and Lemon
- General Feedback
- Ginger Root Juice
- Good Cholesterol
- Green Tea
- Gynostemma Pentaphyllum Tea
- High Cholesterol and Heart Disease
- High Cholesterol Readings
- High Triglycerides
- Hydrogen Peroxide
- Lecithin, Astaxanthin
- Low Ldl and Hdl Remedies
- Multiple Remedies
- Multiple Supplements
- Nigella Sativa
- Oat Straw Tea
- Oil Pulling
- Omega 3
- Orange Oil
- Progesterone, Vitamin D
- Psyllium Husk Powder
- Red Yeast Rice
- Remedies Needed
- Ted's Remedies
- Thyroid Meds
- Understanding Cholesterol Jumps
- Understanding Cholesterol Test Results
- Vitamin C
- Vitamin D
11/18/2013: Elaine from Huntsville, Al: "About 5 years ago, my dr put me on zocor for cholesterol. I was on it for about 6 months and stopped because I developed neck pain--like a stiff neck, but never got better. A short time after that, my gastro dr put me on something for my ulcer, I don't recall the name, but the neck pain increased and so I got off it pretty quickly. I still have the neck pain--I take a good bit of astaxanthin for the pain, which helps but I still have the pain. During all this time, I also had pain in both large toes. This pain is not in the joint (not gout), but lengthwise up the center of the largest part of the toe. I'm thinking peripheral neuropathy? Comments, anyone? Do you think this is still from the statins? What should I do? I take the astaxanthin, 4 mg 4x/d, d3, calcium/magnesium tablet, and a multivitamin daily. Can someone ever overcome the longterm effects of statins? Thanks."Replies
11/18/2013: Prioris from Fl replies: "I would go to a good chiropractor to look at stiff neck problem. Stiff neck (along with headache) is one of the symptoms of chronic meningitis. Usually stiff neck due to cold from open window will go away.
There are all sorts of things for neuropathy but I would consider experimenting with seanol given that it addresses many other things besides the neuropathy. Maybe you luck out and it addresses other things. It is a more powerful and long lasting antioxidant than astaxanthin also but I would keep taking the astaxanthin also."
11/18/2013: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc replies: "Hello Elaine,
Yes, the problems are from the statins...or so assume. Good you got off when you did.
Suggestion on dealing with the continuing problem, eg neck etc.
To get the statins out of you, cleanse. I mean deep cleanse. There are different cleansers The best to get to the cellular level, lemon drink while fasting. Six lemons cut in half and squeeze a half in purified glass of water. Twelve glasses of that a day; so six lemons daily...for ten days. By the third day, you'll be visiting rest room every thirty minutes; the lemon will clean out down to the cellular level. Also you'll knock out any kidney stones you happen to have.
11/18/2013: Marie from New York replies: "Hi, would this work for gallstones or gallbladder. I have been drinking two lemons a day and using olive oil since I haven't done a flush... some days pain is there and some days it is not..
Maybe I am drinking too many lemons. I watched a video from Andrias Moritz once and he said to drink two whole lemons a day... no water...for an extended amount of time..
How does one know if you are detoxing..."
11/18/2013: Rsw from Uniontown, Oh replies: "Elaine,
There is a Yahoo Group for people who have permanent damage from statin drug use. Most of the people only took statins for a short period of time, yet sustained significant permanent damage that has altered their lives. Most were very active, health conscious people who are now living with severe muscle damage, autoimmune diseases and memory problems. These adverse reactions are usually not reported by our doctors, so the number of people affected is not known. The group can be found here:
Someone at this site may be able to give advice. Those who have seen doctors specializing in statin damage have reported they take a certain kind of absorbable CoQ10 and high doses of fish oil. Best wishes."
11/19/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa replies: "Never take a statin without also taking CoQ10. Never take CoQ10 without also taking Selenium and Vit-E as these work best together. Muscle stiffness and soreness is a result of the statin depleting what little CoQ10 the body makes, and muscle wasting is the results. From personal experience, the best form of CoQ10 is combined w/ Glutathione. To help rebuild muscle eat quality meat or supplement Branch Chain Amino Acids (BCAA) and/or Creatine.
Dr Sinatra recommends splitting the statin tabs in half and in some cases quartered so as to reduce the bad side effects, while modifying the diet and supplementation."
11/19/2013: Elaine from Huntsville, Al replies: "TimH: If I take CoQ10 for relief of pain from statins I took years ago, then I have another question. My ldl is still high, so can I take red yeast rice w/ coQ10 in it and then more CoQ10 for more relief? I still need to reduce that ldl, but I started getting a cramp in my calf from the rry, so stopped it. It has coQ10 in it, but I'm still in pain from the zocor. Thanks."
11/19/2013: Gavin from Northland, New Zealand replies: "I read after a good try out with lemons that after a few weeks the first sign of a zit or boil, is the sign to knock it off. I started to get some boils forming for no good reason. Otherwise the results were excellent. In fact I had never felt better."
11/20/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa replies: "Elaine: Try Glutathione/CoQ10 combination for best results which should help w/ energy but for the ldl do take the red yeast rice twice daily plus a flush free niacin like niacinamide or inositol hexaniacinate 1 500mg 2x day. For the muscle loss take BCAA's and or Creatine (C also enhances muscle energy production very effectively).
Also, I have had very good results w/ L-Methionine 500 or 1000mg daily for fat burning. DMG works very well w/ Methionine for energy production and fat burning plus boosted detoxification.
You may also want to consider supplementing Coconut oil to enhance metabolism; lots of good reports on c.o. here. A good source of natural Iodine like Kelp will help metabolism by enhancing thyroid function. L-Tyrosine 500 mg daily will also boost thyroid and energy production. High ldl is almost always a side effect of low thyroid."
11/20/2013: Elaine from Huntsville, Al replies: "Timh, thanks for your advice. I did a search but could not locate a coQ10 that includes glutathione. Is there one? I pretty much use iherb. I can do both supplements. I'm so tired of being in constant pain, not severe but enough to slow me down. Thanks again."
11/21/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa replies: "Elaine: Swanson Foods has one, as well as Vitacost L-Glutathione Plus CoQ10 -- 250 mg - 60 Capsules. This will definitely up your energy and help detox any residual statin metabolites, but do also try the other recommends I posted previously as it seems you will need more than just gth/coq10. Eat 2 or three Brazil nuts for selenium to boost the gth/coq10.
Are you vegetarian? Do get some quality protein in the diet.
Something else that will definitely help straightway, is a good hot bath w/ 1/2 cup baking soda and 1/2 cup epsom salt. This is very good detox and muscle helper. Potassium is also recommended to improve the electrolyte status which helps the neuromuscular action.
Hoping on some good news from you."
11/21/2013: Elaine from Al replies: "Thanks, Timh. I eat what I consider a pretty good diet. I have chickens and have had them tested for salmonella, so I can eat raw eggs and generally eat 2/day. I also was given a gift of 1/2 an organically grown, grass-fed steer for Christmas, so have high quality angus beef to eat (I don't eat much red meat). I eat lots of avocados and use coconut oil exclusively when cooking, try to use lots of herbs and spices (ginger, garlic, tumeric, etc) in my foods. Not a lot of fresh veg's b/c they are now out of season and my local farmer's market has closed, so mostly frozen. thanks for the assist, will start bs & empsom salts baths. I ordered a seperate coQ10 and glutathione and will commence when they arrive. Thanks again."
11/07/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Allow me to add some more info on the ongoing Statin discussion.
Several months ago my almost lifelong normal cholesterol reading spiked considerably as well as triglycerides. Dr. gave me free samples of a Statin. Being cautious and very much not wanting to even give them a try, I asked for a prescription for Cholestramine (a fiber powder supplement). Unfortunately the grand marketing scheme must bow to the taste and fancy of the populace so they add sweeteners and such (which irritates my stomach). Last thurs I go back to Dr. and check high on the C and very high on the T once again.
Sure I buy into the theory that cholesterol is good and even necessary BUT, like sugar, too much is dangerous; so I try half an 10mg Atavastatin and 8 hrs later the other half. Next day take one tab.
At this point it is necessary to note that I am going thru extreme oxidative stress induced by free radicals that's been prominent factor in a lengthy environmental disease. Prior to the Statin, I was rendered almost non functional and was in need of personal assistance. I spent most time in bed and lost almost all appetite and energy ... until I began the statin. Three, four days later I am very much improved and completely out of the semi crisis situation of which I had plumbed. I need to also state that I show many obvious symptoms of a mycoplasma infection that could be considered somewhat severe.
OK, that's the good news. The Statin seems to have gone a long way toward correcting a fatty acid metabolic disorder complicated by a mycoplasma infection (as we know mycoplasma feeds on cholesterol). I witnessed a substantial decrease in chronic diarrhea the two days of Statin.
Now for the bad news. I also noticed a marked increase in my Peripheral Neuropathy (lower extremities). After only a few minutes of research, I find that Statins do cause P.N. in a small percentage of the population. And if that isn't enough, I also find the same small (5%) suffer pulmonary fibrosis (of which I have some obvious symptoms but no diagnosis for almost 20 yrs.). My P.N. seems some better today so I am not fearing anything permanent here, as I only took 2 tabs.
Anyway, I am going to give the Red Yeast Rice a trial as there seems some big potential for correcting the fatty acid metabolic disorder and inhibiting mycoplasma (especially in the liver and gut) as well as lower the cholesterol and triglycerides."Replies
11/07/2013: Prioris from Fl replies: "Statin drugs will damage ones health over the long term.
High cholesterol is a manufactured health problem. It makes no sense why you should be concerned about cholesterol. High cholesterol may be a tip off that you have blood coagulation problems. I have had cholesterol near the 400 range for over 50 years. I'm not the least bit concerned about it because I know it is an imaginary problem.
Assume that you have mycoplasma, you could try erythromicin, borax and other things.
You would also have blood coagulation problems. I would strongly suggest fibrolytic enzymes like nattokinase and serrapeptase since it addresses the core problem. Experiment to see what combination is the best.
You do not need to take the Red Rice since it isn't addressing the core problems.
You talk about oxidative damage then why not take astaxanthin. it is a very powerful anti-oxidant. Take at least 8-12 mg per day"
11/08/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa replies: "Prioris: Thanks for your feedback. A little more detail may help.
A 20yr undiagnosed atypical pulmonary fibrosis has left me w/ a terribly toxic body and almost dead on more than one occasion despite all efforts to regain health. Pulmonary Fibrosis is notorious for reducing the ability of the body to produce Glutathione. I have only recently began homemade oral liposomal gth w/ good results, but there is obviously much more to do. Also, as for antioxidants, I am going to create a mixture of several fat & water soluble anti's for liposomal encapsulation which, in theory, should provide the antioxidant protection I have not been able to achieve by standard oral.
The substantial decrease in diarrhea from only 2 days on Statin is a definite tip on some type fatty acid metabolic disorder. The Red Yeast Rice should produce the same effect w/ no bad side effects. Inhibiting the cholesterol in the liver seems to be preventing the overgrowth of the myco in the gut.
From what I've read, a severe mycoplasma infection may take up to 6 or more months Doxycycline and may need rotating w/ other cycline antibiotics. I tried liposomal berberine w/ no noticeable improvements. Borax baths help. Colloidal Silver nebulized kills the mycoplasma from the lungs for maybe 2 or 3 wks, then repeat.
I have taken systemic enzymes in the past and am now taking Nattokinase 2 caps daily."
11/08/2013: Prioris from Fl replies: "Thanks for clarification regarding pulmonary fibrosis.
The things I have come up with and you probably already know about:
- N-Acetyl L-Cysteine
- Systemic enzymes
- Nebulized Glutathione
- Acetyl Glutathione
I would think you'd want to take the enzymes probably 3 times a day"
04/04/2012: Wayne from Huntington Beach, Ca Usa: "Hello: In late January, I had bad cholesterol of 181. I don't know what the other numbers were. I was prescribed statins. I didn't take any. Instead, I started an exercise and diet program.
DIET: I cut out all red meat, switched to soy milk. Primarily, I would eat pinto beans with brown rice for dinner with salsa and avocado, sometimes a veggie chicken patty with brown rice and veggies. Breakfast was nonfat greek yogurt or a flax muffin. Lunches were sushi or a subway veggie delight sandwich on wheat. Occasionally, I would eat chicken and fish. I tried NOT to eat anything with saturated fat at all. Lots of bran!
EXERCISE: This might be the most important element. I exercised nearly every day. 45 minutes on the eliptical M-F and an hour on the weekends, plus some weights and crunches on the weekends. If you want to lower your bad cholesterol, YOU MUST EXERCISE LIKE THIS.
PILLS: I started out trying lecithin and red yeast rice, but I read that red yeast rice is identical to taking a statin, and not regulated so they can have a lot of impurities in red yeast rice. The lecithin made me headachy and, I think, made me have heart palpitations. So instead, I decided to try one pill of D-Limonine (Orange Oil), one pill of Fish Oil and one pill of Psyllium every day.
RESULT: I think I started this on January 25 or so. My blood was tested on March 29. Got the results today and my bad cholesterol was only 127!!!!! Hooray!!!
I don't know what the other numbers were, I was just too happy about my bad cholesterol. No idea if the Orange Oil was the key, but I am going to keep taking it and try to get my bad cholesterol under 100. I think exercise and weight loss are critical, however. I lost about 20 pounds in about two months. Good luck to all!"Replies
07/09/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Starr4046, I would urge you to stay away from statins. Not long ago, I heard Kevin Trudeau speak at the Longevity Now Conference and what he had to say regarding statins was absolutely frightening. He said that without a doubt, over time you will absolutely lose muscle mass. Something we already have difficulty holding onto as we age. These drugs have so many side effects I wouldn't even consider them an option. There are so many ways to lower your cholesterol in natural ways that are fairly well- known. Simple things such as oatmeal, garlic, diet, exercise, niacin, artichoke leaf extract, medicinal mushrooms. Do some research because there is plenty of information available regarding this.
Many people here on EC write in saying that apple cider vinegar really helped bring their cholesterol down. Check ou the cholesterol section here on EC. And good for you that your goal is to live your life without drug use! Wishing you the best of health, Lisa"
07/12/2012: Pahlee from Phila, Pa. replies: "Thank you for that info. on statins, because I have been taking them for awhile to control my cholesterol."
10/01/2013: Lorene A from Montgomery, Tx: "RED YEAST RICE, according to research findings from Dr. Mercola (internet), RYRice is a STATIN drug. We were very surprised and were using as this information was not divulged. It is Lovastatin (Mevacor and Altocor). So if you believe you are taking a natural supplement - Surprise! Provided your tests after statin drugs were good, you are better off to NOT take anything for cholesterol, eat heallthy and take lots of vitamins. Statins are a danger to the liver, as we all know. Same goes for Red Yeast Rice. Manufacturers are very clever hiding the statin facts. Also if the RYR contains citrinin, it is dangerous. Should be removed. Again that information not found on most supplements on the market. Good cholesterol is one of our best friends and is vital componet of every cell membrane. Eat healthy to maintain good cholesterol levels. Love this site - very beneficial. I go no where else to get natural remedies. Wonderful site!"Replies
10/02/2013: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc replies: "To Lorene A, re Red Rice/Cholesterol,
Your advice is the same as mine and I did try the Red Rice once; maybe three years ago. The friend who was recommending it warned me that he did experience what he thought was a side effect; brain fog. Well, I'd never had problems with brain fog so decided to give the Red Rice caps a try and in two weeks was having trouble concentrating; perhaps a coincendence but I immediately got off the Red Rice and cleared up immediately. I read how the Red Rice works and as you point out and Mercola points out, it works like a statin.
A statin works at the liver level to STOP cholesterol production. But as bad a rap as cholesterol has taken in the past 20 years, cholesterol is essential for cellular health and especially the brain. The problem with cholesterol, is that if there is not enough Vitamin E (natural, not synthetic) in the system, then any fat might start sticking to the veins and arteries. The cause of plaque build up is not the presence of cholesterol but the absence of Vit E.
Got that? The cause of plaque build up is not the presence of cholesterol but the absence of Vit E.
So I got off the Red Rice and the fog went away and I just keep on taking my 800 iu daily of natural E (d alpha tocopherol/ NOT dl alpha tocopherol... The "l" after the "d" tells you it is synthetic. Just get your E at the health food store. Drug stores sell synthetic. ) My cholesterol has always been high but I believe the use of E, CoQ 10, magnesium and potassium, arginine and hawthorn etc has warded off heart issues all these years. I'm 64 and have good BP and can still engage in vigorous exercise. No circulatory issues at all.
[YEA] 03/03/2010: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand: "Getting Cholesterol down without medicine...
I have recently consulted with a hotel chairman group in Phuket about getting his cholesterol down, which is actually not a stict regimen at all. Before I start I might as well show you the figures. On January 7, 2010, he decided to test how effective my remedies were and got a blood test.
Here are his figures: Cholesterol 304, Triglyceride 275, HDL Cholesterol 56, and LDL Cholesterol 197. Normal figures should be below 200 for cholesterol, 150 for triglyceride, more than 40 for HDL, 130 for LDL, and his fasting glucose is 92. On the SI scale it's 5. Units are often mg/d for cholesterol, while mg per dL the rest.
On February 10, 2010, after using my simple remedy, here is his recent blood test, which is roughly 5 weeks after the first blood test: Cholesterol is 207 (about 100 points reduction), triglyceride is 57 (a 78% reduction), HDL cholesterol 49, LDL cholesterol is 147. So the focus has always been reducing total cholesterol and triglyceride, as you can see.
The remedy is simple: avoid drinking alcohol, and all vegetable oils used for cooking in foods such as main dishes and all bakery products for at least 2 months, but in this case it was done in 5 weeks. If and when it is necessary for cooking using oils, then just use coconut oil only. Vegetable oils get oxidized and go rancid inside the body and become really sticky goo, causing these plaques, liver problems and heart disease. This can easily be demonstrated by leaving say canola oil out in the sun for about 1-2 months or outside are. They will eventually become glue. It maybe faster if you heat them and then leave it out for a week. They become oxidized easily, while there is no effect on these chemical change using either lard or coconut oil, when they are similarly exposed. The other thing is to take lecithin one teaspoon a day with every meal and once before you sleep. One additional thing is to avoid late night dinners such as after 6 pm if possible. To get HDL up, you simply eat the yellow egg yolk and throw away the whites (they are anti nutrients and is used as antidote for food poisoning because of this binding ability). The yellow egg yolk consumed should preferably be still liquid. Of course the last suggestion the Chairman didn't follow because he was desperate to get all cholesterol figures down, and didn't bother consuming the egg yolk which would have raised his HDL. I believe he will soon as numbers are getting normal, assuming of course that he doesn't go back to drinking, or consuming vegetable oils used in cooking fried chicken, french fries and fats buildup also occur when you also consume the fructose, found in fruit juices, which I prefer to stay away if I wanted to get cholesterol levels down fast. 300 is fantastically high numbers and 200 or less are much more manageable. This remedy the Chairman did not take any statin drugs or any medication, as this shortens people's lifespan when they are on statins, and causes strokes while lowering the cholesterol level. Cheese and milk and dairy product is avoided as usual.
I am currently investigating the use of orange oils in reducing cholesterol in the blood. This comes from my experience in the cleaning industry where we use orange oils, or d-limonene, to remove heavy grease. Of course the orange oils is mixed say 20 drops per 2 teaspoon of granulated lecithin in a blender, mixed with 250 cc of water and is taken three times a day. This should in theory remove the rancid sticky oils from cooked vegetable oils that get recirculated inside the body.
In any event, no pharmaceutical drugs was used in my remedy in reducing any cholesterol was needed.
Regarding the use of niacin to reduce the cholesterol I believe is a risky venture. That's because it is true niacin reduces blood cholesterol, but in the 1930s it's been known that fact, what is not known is it increases liver cholesterol. To the displacement of cholesterol goes from the blood into the liver, causing liver damage. It's know well in the time release niacin, but in the 1930s there was no timed release niacin and it still does the damage to the liver. Hence I don't generally use niacin to reduce cholesterol. I however use niacinamide, which doesn't cause the flush, but the aim here is not the issue of cholesterol, but in the use against depression, anxiety and panic attacks, as well as suicidal depression, usually require 500 mg and takes about 45 minutes for it to take effect. As far as non flush niacin is concerned, Inositol Hexanicotinate, those don't reduce cholesterol either. However, the chemical properties of orange oil, whose main component is d-limonene, also found in lemon oil too, can dissolve heavy grease inside the body when mixed with an oil soluble lecithin to aid in the delivery to reduce overall cholsterol, especially the LDL, which are the stickiest of all the cholesterol and hardest to remove.
If it does reduce using the lemon oil or orange oil, it's best not to overdo that and I always think after doing for a month or so to take another blood test to make sure it's not overdone."Replies
12/22/2011: Lou from Elk Grove, Ca, Usa replies: "Can you please share your findings on the use of lemon and/or orange oil in combination with lecithin granules in terms reducing LDL and triglyceride. Also, do you think, this can be used along with oral chelation EDTA?? To hopefuls reduce the arterial plaque. What dose and what precautions do you recommend?
Your words of wisdom and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. God bless."
02/20/2012: Annie from Toledo, Oh replies: "In using orange oil for cholesterol where can I find it?"
04/10/2012: Barnard from Jakarta, Indonesia replies: "Hi, I agree with the exercise and a good diet able to knock off some LDL. I did the same, and mine after about 45 days was down from 130 (the upper range is 100) to 62.
Well, I put more time on exercises. I do it everyday and 2 times a day, consisting of walking, running and bicycling.
In addition, I watch my diet carefully. To add your effort of avoiding nasty cholesterol, I consume olive oil a lot. About 5-6 tablespoon a day. I consider this important since it boost HDL and also helps eliminate some LDL. Omega oil is also in my daily menu. My weight dropped by 30 lbs, accordingly I breath a lot easier now and feel much much better."
05/04/2012: Frances from Downey, Calif replies: "Thank u! Everyone, especially for the red yeast advice, after I took it I had heart pain. I'm going to take the oils and just lose the weight. Thanks again!"
07/09/2012: Starr4046 from Chandler, Az, Usa replies: "Hi, I went to the doctor today for my A1C diabetic check up. They took a fasting blood test and I was told that my LDL is 199 and my HDL is 56. My triglyceride is 271 and my non-HDL chol is 215.
Sitting in my doctor's office she is telling me to go back on Crestor - a statin. I am reluctant to do so, but my numbers are very high. One good thing is my A1C is 6.0 and that is coming down... Yeah me!!
I would like to try to get this down naturally. So I am going to start this remedy. Any advice would be greatly appreciated because my goal is to live healthy without as many prescribed medications as possible.
Thanks for your posts"
07/09/2012: Carly from Seattle, Wa - Usa replies: "Hi Starr -My personal thoughts on this (after seeing what a statin did to my husband) are to NEVER take a statin. EVER. There are entire books on this subject. Please read one. It will frighten the living daylights out of you. I only read up on it after my husband showed signs of Early Onset Alzheimers after 3 months on a statin drug. Thank God it reversed when he stopped taking it.
If you must take a drug to lower your cholesterol (have you looked into red yeast rice? Google that). There are non-statin drugs out there too.... please do some research.
Do not let the doctor talk you into a statin. They should not even be allowed on the market in my opinion. There is a HUGE amount of money being made on the backs of the uninformed.... BILLIONS of dollars. It is just so wrong. Look it up.
Knowledge is power.
Best to you! :-)"
[YEA] 08/03/2012: Otelco from Scottsdale, Az replies: "My total cholesterol has always been around 220-240. Last year it was about the same but my HDL dropped from 60ish to below 40. My total/hdl ratio went to >6 putting me in high risk category. Read Ted's remedy and added egg yolk to diet on average of about 2 every other day or less. Had cholesterol retested with very significant increase in HDL. Ratio dropped to below 3.5 putting me in no risk category. LDL also went down. No other physical/dietary changes. Ted rules!"
10/10/2012: Laurie from Livonia, Mi replies: "Having reactions to cholesterol medications with muscles. Have been taken off medication for a week. I have read about taking lecithin. I purchased capsules, 1200 mg. first question is how many capsules equate to a teaspoon? Second question, if also taking meds for depression, is this safe. Would greatly appreciate some help. Thank you"
10/11/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Laurie, it's pretty much common knowledge nowadays that statin drugs deplete CoQ10 in the body, although it seems many docs are reluctant to advise supplementing CoQ10 or Ubiquinol. If you showed such pronounced symptoms in your muscles, it could be deduced that you are also at very high risk for heart attack (one of the side effects of statins). If you decide to supp CoQ10 also take Vit-E and Selenium.
Take the lecithin caps as directed on labels and also take a good complete B vit to boost your entire metabolic pathway (energy production). Also consider other effective Cholesterol lowering remedies like Red Yeast Rice, Niacin, Beta Sitosterol."
10/11/2012: Citygirl27 from Richardson, Tx, Usa replies: "Also check out Niacin. Even conventional doctors are realizing it works for lowering cholesterol. I have seen people on 1000mg a day of Niacin (advised by a doc) but I would start slow. Start at 250 mg for a week. Step up at 250 mg at a time until you get a flush, and then make that your dose, not more. Take it late in the evening, several hours after your last meal so what you last ate won't influence your levels. If you take it right after/with a meal, you will 'feel the heat' a lot more esecially if you just ate bread, pasta, etc. Do not get "flush free" or reduced-flush niacin, it doesn't work. It needs to be regular Niacin!!"
10/11/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Laurie, Another thing you could consider to lower your cholesterol is chia seed. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it or not. Chia seeds have long chain triglycerides which help scrub cholesterol from the artery walls. In addition to being good for this reason, they also are a good source of fiber, help to make you feel full if eating too much is an issue, they're full of nutrition, decrease blood pressure and the list goes on. I drink them in a cherry juice which I started in the spring. They really help regulate you and also keep you hydrated because of their ability to hold liquid. I have given friends the chia pudding recipe which you can google online too. Anyway, hope this helps. Lisa"
[YEA] 06/02/2009: Brian from Fort Worth, TX: "low thyroid increased my total cholesterol to 756 and my tryglcerides to 461, after taking armour thyroid my total cholesterol went down to 261 and tryglcerides to 358."
01/03/2014: Robin from Rural Va: "Help me understand this. I recently had labs done, and had a 70 point jump in cholesterol since my last labs about a year ago. It went from 190 to 261. I don't have the breakdown, as it was a conversation with a nurse over the phone. I am 55 and just in menopause. I am currently not exercising, but during the spring and summer I walk 3 to 6 miles a day. I am not totally sedentary; I am a special education teacher, and walk from one end of the campus to the other several times a day. I recently lost 20 lbs, and am not overweight. I eat a fairly natural diet. However, I did have the labs done during the holiday when I had been eating fudge, and other holiday goodies. Would this cause the difference?
I have just been looking over the Cholesterol pages, and these are the things that I am already doing: Eat oatbran with EVCO every day. I take niacin 1,000, everyday. I take fish oil, and Evening Primrose Oil. I cook only with Coconut oil, and don't even have vegetable oils in my house. I sweeten my oatbran with BSM. I drink green tea at least once a day; any more than that makes me feel dehydtrated. I never drink sodas.
About two weeks ago I did the gall bladder cleanse with Olive Oil and lemon juice, and epsom salts, due to a pain under my ribs on right side that lasted two days.
I feel like I am doing pretty good for my age. I do have sciatic pain, and have just started having hot flashes, and have had insomnia for about 10 years.
I have read the comments that we should not be worried about our cholesterol. My concern is why the increase when I am already doing things that should prevent it. These things I do were not done to prevent high cholesterol, but for overall health.
Dr. wants me to go on a lowfat diet and recheck in 6 months. I feel I am already on a lowfat diet, except for the this holiday period. Any suggestions or explanations would be appreciated."Replies
01/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc replies: "Dear Robin,
The spike up could just be a bad reading...that happens all the time. It's cheap to get another reading from an outside lab to confirm the aberrant jump.
I'm one of those who consumes Vitamin E (natural/ not synthetic) and so believe that cholesterol readings ... at least for me.... do not matter because the E keeps platelets "slick" as well as arteries and veins and hence foreign substances will not stick and form clots. Thus the damage that might happen will be kept from taking place. The problem with trying to keep cholesterol from forming by statin drug use misses the essential point that the body (the liver) intentionally makes cholesterol and cholesterol is essential for body health.
Google Dr.Ron Rosedale's " exposing the cholesterol myth" a you tube video...only 9 minutes long. Very informative."
01/03/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa replies: "The reason people want to lower cholesterol is because of heart disease. People should be aware that medical studies concluded many years ago that there is no correlation between heart disease and cholesterol. Same with salt. People with low cholesterol die from heart disease at the same rate as people with high cholesterol.
Heart disease (and stroke) comes down to one thing - cleaning your arteries. You use fibrolytic enzymes like nattokinase and serrapeptase for that. You take them on emnpty stomach. They protect you from strokes and heart attacks. Cholesterol is there to protect you. If it wasn't for that, you'd be dead. Do the research. Even the so called "bad" cholesterol is turning out to be good. Stop worrying about cholesterol and focus on cleaning your arteries.
For your sciatica - Take a form of highly absorb-able Hyaluronic Acid on empty stomach. I know the Biocell formula works. This will replenish your synovial fluid."
01/03/2014: Mike 62 from Denver, Colorado replies: "Robin: God made raw wild harvested whole foods for his lovable creatures to enjoy so they could be well and happy. Watch raw food videos and become an 80/10/10er. We happen to be all across the globe. The head gurus are Dr. Doug Graham, Andrew Kim, and David Avocado Wolfe. Hear the excellent reviews from many ordinary people. All the problems can be remedied and you can feel and think better than in your entire life very rapidly. Thank you."
01/04/2014: Timh from Ky replies: "Robin: I will second most of the advise posted and would particularly second Prioris's recommend for "artery cleanse" w/ systemic enzymes. This could be done taken once daily for the contents of the bottle at least once yrly.
Also, you should include some herbal liver support because the liver is the metabolic factory for cholesterol (as one poster verified). Here's a list: Milk Thistle Seed, Artichoke Leaves, Dandelion Root, Burdock Root, Yellowdock Root, Beet Root. Try to find an otc product w/ as many of these herbs in combination as possible. These will increase bile flow which also increases the solubility of fats. Triple strength lecithin also increases the solubility of cholesterol."
01/04/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Robin... Regarding the problems of high total cholesterol, I do not follow the modern medical belief that high total cholesterol is bad, bad, bad.
Current opinion concerning healthy cholesterol levels follows The Lipid Theory which assumes that fats, particularly saturated fats, are bad for you.
I prefer Linus Pauling's Unified Theory concerning cholesterol which seems to make much more sense. Here is a comparison of these two theories given in a very easy to understand document which was written by a knowledgeable pharmacist that might help you to understand these two points of view:
In your own case, your total cholesterol certainly has suddenly risen considerably. Cholesterol is needed in the body to help build and to help repair damaged cells. Therefore a sudden high rise in total cholesterol tells me that there might be damaged tissue or a damaged organ (not necessarily the heart) in your body -- which has caused the sudden rise in needed cholesterol.
Since you are also having menopause problems(you are taking Primrose oil) this could also be causing your cholesterol levels to suddenly fluctuate. Cholesterol is also essential to manufacture hormones such as testosterone and estrogen.
The best way to help both your cholesterol and menstrual issues or changes would be to supplement lugols iodine or Iodoral(lugol's iodine in a pill). Iodine helps to balance the hormones by converting estrone (strong psuedo-estrogen) to estriol (weak estrogen).
The iodine, when combined with the niacin that you are taking, should also help to safely lower cholesterol levels and also help reduce any menstrual issues.
If you decide to take the Iodine Protocol then you should take all the iodine companion nutrients as advised in this document:
01/04/2014: Robin from Rural, Va replies: "Thank you for everyone's suggestions. I will make a plan."
01/04/2014: Trudy from Al replies: "I agree that it's probably the holiday eating. I had the same thing happen to me--jumped very high. I'm in the same situation as you, menopause/insomnia/eat fairly well/exercise enough/weight ok. I fasted for 12+ hours before my last test, but the several days prior we had been out of town and you have to eat what your host presents to you and it was all fried/high fat/high sweets. I'll know better next time to eat right the entire week or so before the text. I take niacin for insomnia, eat oats, only use evco, eat very well, etc. There was absolutely no other reason for it to have gone up like it did. The only difference I am doing now is eating at least 1 apple/day. This is because I read that a pink lady apple helps prevent ulcers, so for a different reason and the pectin will help with cholesterol."
01/04/2014: Louwrence from Rustenburg, South Africa replies: "Hi Trudy, The slightest bit of tension or stress can have a great influence on your cholesterol. When you are relaxed it is much lower also what you eat has an influence on cholesterol."
01/24/2014: Ppodruga from Ontario: "Hi, I have received my last blood results. Doctor want me to start statins, but I am looking for some alternative help.
There are my results:
- Total Cholesterol 8.42 (324 )
- HDL Cholesterol 3.03 (118)
- LDL Cholesterol 5.17 (199)
- Cholesterol/ HDL ratio is 2.8
Can somebody help me with the results?"
01/24/2014: Mike62 from Denver replies: "Ppodruga: Hdl should be 60. High hdl indicates oxidation making bad hdl. Ldl should be below 130. Total cholesterol should be below 200. The cholesterol of Mike Adams is approximately 70/70. Taking meds is not good. Eating cooked conventionally grown foods does not provide enough nutrition for optimal functioning. Search raw food and super food videos. Take yucca spray dried for horses. The saponins are very beneficial. Take black chia seeds and organic apples. The soluble fiber is very beneficial. Take organic beans. Small red, kidney, and pinto are best. Take desiccated liver. A good liver makes good cholesterol. Take non denatured whey isolate. This makes glutathione that mops up free radicals and prevents oxidation. Take raw cocoa powder and 90, 000hu cayenne. This is best for the cardio vascular system. Take 3ml/day skate liver oil. If you have not been taking a d3 supplement then take 5000iu d3/day. Make green smoothies from organic baby greens and add some nutritional yeast every 4 hours. Take 1 organic strawberry every 4 hours or take 200mg vitamin c from a whole food concentrate. After that take 50mg c from the whole food concentrate 4x/day."
01/24/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa replies: "Do not take Statins. They will damage your health. The reason they focus on cholesterol is because they will say it leads to heart disease. That is a lie. Look at the latest research regarding cholersterol and heart disease. ALmost everything they have said in the past is wrong. You can throw your cholesterol results in a basket. They aren't worth the paper they are printed on. I had cholesterol results of around 370 for over 50 years.
If you want good heart health, look into nattokinase, lumbrokinase and vitamin K2. There is a discussion on K2 within olive extract under blood pressure. How old are you by the way?"
01/25/2014: Rsw from Uniontown, Oh replies: "I belong to a Yahoo group named "Stopped our Statins" where mainly statin damaged people go to share experiences. There are many members. I was a healthy, active 50 year old with high cholesterol and was put on a variety of statins, on and off, over a 10 year period. I stopped each one when I got to the point that I could no longer walk down my stairs without holding on to the railing. Each time my doctor would tell me with my family history, I might be like other patients who had heart attacks because they quit the statins. 14 - 20% of statin users will be damaged and some will develop statin induced autoimmune diseases, and that is what happened to me. It is said to actually alter the DNA in these cases. I also developed hypothyroidism, which no one else in my family has ever had. (There is said to be an epidemic of thyroid disorders and I wonder if we are reaping the statin rewards?) I can no longer sleep more than a couple of hours at a time, an actual concern for heart disease. Many suffer much more serious consequences, and after going to Johns Hopkins myopathy center for statin damage because their muscles have become wasted, have been told there is no answer for them. Our cardiologist on the group, along with other MD's, refuse to prescribe statins. They deplete CoQ10 in the body which leads to many problems down the road, especially with muscles, and of course the heart is a big muscle. They have about a 1% success rate for men who have had a previous heart attack, but no other group, including all women, derive any benefit from statin use.
Members believe the Mediterranean diet, or the Low carb diet may help with artery damage. Vitamin K2 will take calcium out of the blood vessels and direct it to the bones and teeth where it belongs. I take fish, black seed and sea buckthorn oil to keep my blood from clotting, and watch for high iron (causing sticky blood), which I can donate blood to overcome. You need cholesterol for every part of the body, especially the brain. It collects in arteries to repair damage that has already occurred. Meditation and yoga helps for stress. I don't know why people get heart disease, but cholesterol is not the reason, and statins are never the answer."
01/25/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa replies: "In regards to "I don't know why people get heart disease". It is real simple. The people who have clean arteries will not get heart disease. Doesn't matter what their cholesterol reads, what their blood pressure is etc. The arteries need to get cleaned. The way to clean them is with fibrinolytic enzymes. Look at the research China has done on Lumbrokinase."
01/25/2014: Ppodruga from Toronto, Ontario replies: "I am 58 y.o. Also my triglycerides are 0.48 mmol/L. Not sure is it normal or not....."
01/27/2014: Kay from In The Valley replies: "Read the latest book out on the subject, "The Cholesterol Myth". Don't take those statins. Half the people that die of a heart attack have high levels and half have normal levels, what does that tell you? Good Luck"
01/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa replies: "Falsified research on beta blockers exposed. Doctors are still prescribing them. If you are on them, look into Nattokinase (or Lumbrokinase) and vitamin K2 (ML4). Below is the story.
...Patients undergoing surgery are routinely given a beta-blocker in order to reduce stress on the heart—but the research that led to the adoption of the practice was falsified, and doctors reckon that 800, 000 people have died as a result.
Beta-blockers, which are antihypertensives for lowering blood pressure, increase the chances of dying from a stroke or hypotension (dangerously low blood pressure levels) by 27 per cent.
01/28/2014: Rsw from Uniontown, Oh replies: "Thanks Prioris,
I looked at the lumbrokinase and it looks like it would also be good for dissolving biofilms in Lyme disease and help antibiotics work more effectively. I passed this info on to others who may benefit and someone thought it may then also help with the candida biofilms. I agree about the importance of keeping the arteries clean to avoid heart disease. I have had radiowave ablation of my saphanous leg vein, which still had some non-closed areas because the vein was so large, so I hesitate to take any vein opener in case it reopens. Do you think I could still use Serrapeptase safely? I would like to keep my arteries clear, if possible. My vein doctor had no idea what it was when I asked him about it, but at least he admitted it. Thank you!"
01/29/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa replies: "I can't say exactly what you need but for most people Nattokinase should be sufficient. I myself take both nattokinase and serrapeptase because CFIDS causes chronic blood coagulation. I found thru experimentation over time that that combination works for me the best. I can actually feel it working in me. I'd look into MK7 vitamin K2 also because that may help keep the arteries free of calcium build up. Take with meal.
Lumbrokinase has clinical research behind it but is more expensive. No studies will be done on Nattokinase because it would hurt the financial interests of many synthetic blood clot removal products. I found nattokinase very effective for arteries so never bothered with lumbrokinase. Enzymes in general help with biofilms and dissolving various things in the body also. I also take bromelaine which acts on biofilm also. The only thing I can think of that I would maybe avoid is using aspirin on a daily basis with them. You will be fine playing with serrapeptase also.
Take the enzymes on an empty stomach. I take my enzymes all together in morning and before bed when stomachg empty. If one takes nattokinase once a day, they say the best time is before bed since blood has tendency to coagulate more when you lie horizontal. probably why many people have heart attacks in their sleep."
[YEA] 07/16/2007: Chuck from Tukwila, WA: "I was reading where high Cholesterol can be fixed by taking 3000-5000 mg of vitamin C per day. The theory is cholesterol attaches itself to lesions in your blood vessels. The Vitamin C repairs the lesions thus allowing the body to flush the cholesterol that is not needed naturally. Further the articles stated Cholesterol is needed to heal nerves that get damaged. The statin drugs stop the body from making cholesterol thus the nerves don't get healed. I took a fall 2 years ago and no one can figure out why I am in pain. I have been on statin drugs for 4 years. My theory is I damaged nerves in the fall and the lack of cholesterol is not allowing my nerves to heal. I weaned myself off the Lipitor. And am taking 1500 mg 3 times a day of vitamin C. I don't know if it will work I hope so. But I have noticed my memory is getting better."
[YEA] 02/10/2008: Pamela B from Walhalla, SC: "I am taking 10,000 units of Vitamin D for cholesterol. I really want to know what to do about belly fat, and how others have beat the battle of the bulge."Replies
06/18/2011: Tanja from Melbourne, Australia, Victoria replies: "Hi there. Try rebounding or using a mini-trampoline. It's the best exercise on earth. A rebounder costs around 50 bucks and the benefits are numerous. I do 20 minutes per day which is equal to 1 hour of jogging (plus it's 68 percent more effective than jogging without the added stress on the joints). Look it up and try it! All the best. Tanja
ps. you can do abdominals and crunches til the cows come home. They don't work."
[YEA] Coty from Gate City VA: "WATER Is the best thing for high cholesterol."Replies
04/09/2012: Missisippi Girl from Brookhaven, Mississippi replies: "Water may be the answer but how much? You can drink too much water also....... Mississippi girl."