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Alcoholism Treatment to Break Addiction and to Detox
Alcohol addiction can run the gamut from the nightly case of beer, to the once a week drunk, and even include those who absolutely need that one cocktail each night when they get home from work. Alcoholism is a personal thing, and addiction can have many meanings, but addiction treatment is an increasingly well-understood area of healthcare with therapies that work for just about everyone if they're ready to kick their addiction.
Effective treatment for alcohol abuse should first begin with a firm commitment from the alcoholic to escape their addiction. This is one of the principle lessons of most 12-step programs for alcohol treatment. Likewise, a support system of friends, family, other recovering alcoholics, and in some cases medical professionals is also necessary. The latter group is particularly necessary for those with severe alcoholism, as withdrawal symptoms from alcohol dependency can elevate to a condition called delirium tremens, a potentially life-threatening mix of shaking, hallucinations, and confusion that can be controlled with sedatives and medical detox.
Home remedies for alcohol treatment
Treating alcoholism with home remedies includes simple multivitamins including especially omega 3 fatty acids; Vitamins A, B, and C; magnesium; and zinc. The amino acid supplement l-glutamine also shows promise as a mood enhancer that helps to break the addiction cycle.1 Other alternative treatments for alcoholism include hypnotherapy for addiction, energy healing, acupuncture,3 and exercise to release endorphins no longer provided by alcohol-intake.
Alcohol Addiction Treatment
09/27/2013: Judy from Australia: "Hi there. Im in the process of realizing that I have a real problem with drink. I've been drinking wine now for nearly ten years. I'm having up to six glasses a day, start about midday and drink through the afternoon until teatime. I know that I'm consuming more wine as the weeks go by. I've tried twice in the last month or so to stop drinking but when I do I go through a bad time. The first 24 hours isn't so bad... Apart from dealing with the habit more than anything.. The second day however, I get muscle tightening around my jaw, neck and shoulders... With pain... Headache and acute need for a drink. I have tried one valium last time I tried to give it up but that valium wasnt enough. So, here I am again, realizing now just how much its affected my body and I want so badly to be able to walk away from it for good. Ive been reading the posts here. Can anyone suggest for me what is the best home treatment I can do for myself please? I don't want to see a dr about this, I'm convinced that's not necessary at the moment."Replies
09/28/2013: Linda from Lauzerte, France replies: "Bless you Judy, this is tough. I am going through something similar. I know for me that I am using alcohol to self-medicate, there are emotional issues that I need to deal with and so I am going for help with dealing with these.
Be aware that feeling bad when you have not had a drink is because of detox, headache is a classic sign of this.
Something that might be worth looking into is finding something that will relax you a little and help you to feel you don't need a drink - cannabis used to do it for me but I don't have that option now. Have a look on here for something that will help reduce stress and give it a go.
Sorry I can't be more help, but I just wanted to say that you are not alone in this - and you have done a very brave thing by admitting you have a problem and asking for help.
With love, Linda"
09/28/2013: Judy from Australia replies: "hi there Jill... Thans for your reply. I'm only new to this forum... There is just so much information here. I think that I passed a milestone yesterday when I finally admitted to myself that I was actually having withdrawals from alcohol through overuse. That was a biggie for me.
I've started taking liver tonic... And I'm having coconut oil about three times a day. I'm going to buy a multivitamin, plus d3, sometime this week.
Starting today, I'm cutting back on my alcohol. Where sometimes I was having up to six glasses over about a six hour period, I'm now cutting back by at least two a day. I will see how I cope with that. Obviously stopping cold turkey makes me feel ill so I have to work my way around it .
I've also realized that I may have some candida problems... And that would be due to the extra sugar breakdown from the alcohol. All these issues. I think that nearly everyone just has their drinks without even thinking that it literally is a poison.. And they dont have a clue as to what it does to their brain, liver or kidneys.. or their heart.
Anyway, all the best for you. I hope it all works out well for you. Keep in touch.
WE can't use marajhuanna (sp) here, not even the medicinal type.
i will also start taking orange juice with some apple cider vinegar and ice daily .... I know that cider vinegar is good for us. its a good way to take it.
Looking foward to hearing how you get on. Judy"
09/29/2013: Andrea C from Wales replies: "Please read this link, it will help you, go in under Alcohol on the Menu, and read it well follow the links on each page on Alcohol Adicction. Love Andrea C xxx www.AddictionsAndRecovery.org."
09/29/2013: Linda from Lauzerte, France replies: "Hi Judy, good for you, you sound like you have a plan. Cutting down slowly sounds like a good idea, I try to have one day a week with no alcohol.
I am aware that I am giving myself permission, and when I am in an unusual situation eg away from home it's easier to drink less - unless I am around other people, partly I drink to cope with social situations. This is part of what I am trying to get help with.
I take cider vinegar every day too, it's so good for you, and also coconut oil. I also take milk thistle which is commonly available and is very good for the liver.
One last thing that I think is very important - be kind to yourself. Pamper yourself. Get some relaxation tapes and make time to listen. If you fall off the wagon - don't beat yourself up. Next day just jump right back in. You have years of habit to break, try to look at yourself as if you were your best friend so to speak, so often we get angry with ourselves for things where we don't with other people.
Really wishing you all the best with this and would like to hear how you get on too
10/19/2013: Ted from Toronto, Canada replies: "Few people know that alcohol and fructose use the same pathways in the liver. So, when you drink, do not drink pop, soda or any other product with High Fructose Corn Syrup in it that same day. Drink only very dry wine, as a sugar addiction coupled with an alcohol addiction makes it twice as bad and hard to break.
When trying to quit, do not let yourself get hungry, but avoid high carb snacks. Nuts, veggies with dips, moderate fruit all work. Shiritake noodles (yam based) work great with any soup, stew or sauce you like to satisfy appetite and fill you up with low carbs.
Alcohol depletes vitamin B1. It is water soluble and easily drained from your system. To fight back, buy the fat soluble form, called Benfotiamine, and use as a suplement. In short, you will lessen metabolic damage. Hopefully, this will mean it becomes easier to quit as the side effects of quitting are less.
Likewise, vitamin C is depleted. Same story, top up vitamin C as soon as possible.
Repair liver stress with silymarin and NAC (n-acytlcysteine).
Some people find niacinamide (a form of vitamin B3) lessens cravings. | do not confuse with niacin (also B3), as niacin causes flushing."
[YEA] 01/28/2010: Wave Runner from Ft Lauderdale, Fl Usa: "Alcoholism: Changed my body chemistry and followed an anti-yeast diet.. Since I have elimanted yeast, sugar all processed foods, I no longer have the cravings to drink alcohol. I have been on this diet now for 3 years..my family is so proud of me.I don't fight the urge anymore and is the most Wonderful feeling. I almost use to faint going by the beer & wine section in the grocery store. My husband has been able to have a full bar in our house for the first time in 25 years and I don't think about drinking anymore. I forget it is even in the house. At first it is hard to retrain your eating habits but it can be done. I have Candida Albicans, and cleaning out all of your insides can take years. I have done 15 Liver flushes and have removed liver flukes and thousands of stones.. Got this info from Dr. Hulda Clark.. I drank for more than 20 years, and I can tell you how happy I am to know that the food I was eating was the cause of my addiction and just stopping the food with chemicals from going into my body has saved my life!"Replies
08/15/2013: Ms.gwen from North Carolina replies: "Please explain in detail your anti-yeast diet... I am very interested in trying this. Thanks"
Apple Cider Vinegar
08/08/2012: Shay from London, Uk: "Hi there, I have a problem with my husband's drinking. He says that he doesnt drink alot, just the occasional beer or glass of wine with friends but I believe it is more than that. I still want him to quit, since I think it is affecting his physical health (liver) and his mental health (he forgets alot).
Note that he doesnt want to quit and doesnt know that I want him to. Would apple cider vinegar help in this case? If so, how can I use it without him knowing?"
[YEA] 07/18/2009: Alfred from Bangkok, Thailand: "True story.. My neighbor was a Alcoholic, every afternoon he would come over for a drink. One day I ran out of his favorite whiskey.. I put two Jiggers of Apple Cider Vinegar in the glass with orange juice and ice cubes.. I mixed it the same way I would mix it if I had used whiskey.. We sat down as we had done for months.. he drank his drink and did not say a word.. We did for 10 days.. no comment from Ken.. T hen told him I substituted Apple Cider Vinegar for the Whiskey.. He did not beleive me..He said it tasted the same. Now NO More Whiskey.. He switched to Apple Cider Vinegar.
Stay well my friends,
12/31/2012: Nortrnrednek from Lewisburg, Tennessee replies: "coming from a non drinker what is a jigger?"
12/31/2012: Carolyn from Akron, Oh replies: "roughly one ounce of liquid."
Chloride of Gold
12/05/2010: Brooke from Montgomery, Tx, Usa: "If you take some gold into the body, anytime you drink alcohol, it will make you sick. One way to do this is: Chloride of Gold Solution be taken internally - Begin with one drop in half a glass of water (the solution being in the proportions of one drop to one ounce of distilled water), every day for five days. Then take two drops every day for five days, then three drops every day for five days, then four drops every day for five days. Then leave off for five days. Then begin with the one drop again, and so on. Also, some people have great results with Castor Oil packs. To find chloride of gold just Google it. If you try alcohol during this time, it will make you feel nauseated and it might even make you vomit."Replies
[WARNING!] 04/21/2013: Joe from Brighton, Sussex replies: "I beg you, for your sake... Do not do this!
Chloride or ionic gold is neuro toxin, it can do severe damage to your nervous system. It may eventually lead to Peripheral Neuropathy; where your skin will itch and feel like its burning, leading to permernant numbness.
There are some commercial products that will, upon alcohol consumption induce nausea and vomiting, also some strong antibiotics ( which ones I can't remember) will also produce a simmilar effect.
Alcohol dependency is often a symptom of depression or boredom, try st johns wort and go outside or read."
02/06/2011: C1265 from Jacksonville, Fl, Usa: "I quit drinking about a month ago and now I having some type of episodes where my whole body feels like electricity is flowing thru me. I've tried vitamins and b complex but they seems to make it worse. I had one last night after take a bath in epsom salt and could not sleep the entire night. Can anyone help me with this? Could I have another issue that's serious?"Replies
02/06/2011: Lily from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia replies: "Hi to C1265, well done giving up the alcohol. Google delirium tremons and you will find a lot of information about alcohol withdrawal, most people think that the dt's are a hangover but they are a lot more serious than that. You will find some extra information and I would try to find a forum where ex drinkers are discussing their symptons and what they did to relieve them. I do know that juice is quite helpful in restoring the sugar in your body that the withdrawals deplete. Hope the best for you. Lily."
01/13/2009: Rich from Boca Raton, Fl: "For border-line alcoholics(5-6 beers per day), you can set rules like: no drinking before lunch. If you have kids, a rule like no drinking before the kids go to sleep might help.
Once those rules are in place, you can set a limit like 4 beers. When you get used to that, decrease to 3. At that point, change to a cheat day like 1 day per week. Alcohol steals your time, but it is possible for some to wean off of.
If beer is your alcohol of choice, and you're quitting, beer is high in b-vitamins, so a b-complex may be helpful. Unclear.
Since Ted mentioned liver damage, it would seem that this may be reversible. My chemistry isn't very good, but I see Phenyl and Sulfur, two anti-fungals in this Drug, so the closest natural remedy might be turmeric (which has both).
"Improved Liver Function"
[QUESTION] 01/25/2009: D from SF, CA replies: "Rich: I must have missed something. Sorry. In your last sentence, you said "in this drug". What drug are you referring to that has the same anti-fungal components as turmeric? Thank you."
[YEA] 07/29/2012: Alfred from Rangsit, Bangkok, Thailand: "Husband Alcoholic. HERBS TO THE RESCUE. Several ways to stop Drinking Boose.
1. one part of Goldthread herb, one part goldenseal herb. Place equal amounts in 1/2 small tea bag. Put into tea infuser and steep as you would a cup of tea.. Not necessary but if you Add a little Epicae to the tea it will make the tea stronger..
After They drink the tea... The taste of alcohol will be bad.. he will not drink again..
2. buy the herb Antibuse and follow directions.
your husband will be back to normal.
06/26/2013: Tami from Nevada replies: "Hello you had Epicae added to one of your tea mixes. What is it? I can't seem to find it. Thank you. Tami"
07/22/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand: "Over the past weeks I have been looking over the use of hydrogen peroxide to stop alcohol addiction and drug abuse addiction. The remedy is a straightforward one, a 3% H2O2 food grade one capful is added into an ordinary drinking water. Use this as a normal drinking water. If a person happens to be drinking wine, beer, liquor, the body will immediately reject it and tries to detoxify it, causing nausea, or vomiting when they take it. The body may also reject certain drug meds, such as birth control pills, cocaine, for example in a few cases. So if the drinking water with hydrogen peroxide is taken at one glass is taken within one hour, the effects is even more stronger and will encourage people to quit the alcohol use.
[YEA] 08/22/2013: Jo from Raceland, Ky replies: "My son was drinking 4 to 5 thirty pks of beer a week! He was driving me and everyone else around him crazy, and he did not want to quit saying it was his life, so I had to trick him :) He had acid reflux so I gave him 2 tbls of Apple Cider Vinegar morning and evening. He also said he needed more energy so I had him use Bill Munro's method of inhaling 3% hydrogen peroxide 4 to 6 times a day. I noticed he was drinking a lot less after 2 weeks so to speed things up I bet him $20.00 he could not go 1 week without drinking. Not only did he win the bet that was 2 months ago and he still has not had a beer. Thanks Ted and Thank God for helping me find Earth Clinic."
[YEA] 09/18/2007: stephanie from Chicago, IL: "Most "alcoholics" don't realize their addiction is chemical and a direct result of being "hypoglycemic". The addiction to the alcohol is so strong because their blood-sugar level drops so severely and gets replenished so quickly with alcohol--because of the high sugar content. In other words, it's not your fault! This is the answer, if you are trying to cut back on your alcohol intake or go "cold turkey", just buy a bottle of "L- Glutamine" and take one every time you have a craving for alcohol. "Glutamine is an amino acid that your brain can use as an emergency substitute fuel when you haven't eaten recently or have been eating too many carbs and your blood sugar level is too low. This is a glucose stand-in that stops the impulse to run to the candy machine when it's low blood sugar time. L-Glutamine can stop your cravings and get you feeling steady and even within ten minutes." Julia Ross, from The Mood Cure-awesome book. I'm telling you, it works, now go help yourself!"
L-Glutamine, Kudzu, B Complex, Magnesium
[YEA] 10/17/2008: Kevin from Chicago, IL - US: "I have had a few bouts w/ alcoholism myself. I've found the following to be helpful: L-glutamine (an amino acid) [already mentioned], Kudzu (an herb), grapes or grape juice, B complex vitamins [already mentioned], & magnesium - use as directed by what the supplement bottle(s) says. As far as I know, it's safe to combine any & all of the above supplements. There may be others not mentioned here, but I think these are worth mentioning. Hope this helps."
11/30/2013: Lisa from Madison, Wi: "Which method do you recommend for someone who is trying to quit drinking alcohol?"Replies
11/30/2013: Mr. Ree from Usa replies: "Go to www.watercure.org and read the testimonials about alcoholism...It's a very cheap cure...You're mineral deficient..."
11/30/2013: Wayout from Motown, Ca replies: "It may seem like a common answer, sweetie-- but I am living proof that 12 step programs work, if you work it. I am 26 years sober, by God!
The trick is to find someone as a sponsor who has worked all the 12 steps themselves, first, and whose life appears to be peaceful, joyous and free, despite how life treats them. Ask that person to be your "temporary sponsor, " to see if it is a good fit, first.
I have long believed this to be both genetic and a nutritional deficiency in the body somewhere, a condition handed down. Some have said B-Vitamins help.
12/01/2013: Mr. Ree from Usa replies: "Make that www.watercure2.org...I prevuiously left out the 2"..Big difference...Check out the testimonials for alchoholism..."
07/26/2012: Samuel from Auckland, New Zealand: "My husband is an alcoholic and he doesnt wanna go off alcohol. He drinks nearly everyday and on fridays he drinks alot and gets very drunk, that he doesnt even recall anything the next day. He doesnt want to consult the doctor or take any medications. He also has early stage of diabetics, high cholestrol and gout. I dont know what should I personally do to help him get off alcohol for good. I have never seen anyone drink so much. His drinking has started to affect me, I am not able to focus on anything else, whole day I keep thinking what to do to get him clean. I tried Apple Cider Vinegar but he doesnt like the taste and he stopped taking it. I bought H2O2 3% food grade but it says its poisonous and I am scared to give him that. Someone please help me on what should I do."Replies
07/27/2012: Cameron from Brisbane, Qld, Australia replies: "Try Oil Pulling. I found Sesame Oil to taste the best, Oil Pulling has a reputation for stopping smoking and all sorts of bad habits.
Also try to look at why he might drink, pressure, boredom or deppression are all common factors. I am sure he will not appreciate meddling or being interrogated but some quiet investigating may help. Do not take this the wrong way but also look at how you and your life may have changed, could this have affected him, I know my wife and life has changed since we had kids.
Just some thoughts but certainly try the Oil Pulling."
08/01/2012: Gail from Cleveland, Ohio replies: "Try going to Al-Alanon for your mental well-being. You can offer your alcoholic various remedies, but it's his choice in the end. If he wants to keep drinking, he will. If he wants to take the remedies, he will. Or not. If you keep trying to make him better, but don't take care of yourself because you're focused on him, then neither of you win. And you drive yourself crazy. Difficult stuff. Peace to you."
08/20/2012: Keleeemo from Dover, Nh replies: "I know what your going through although I don't live with my alcoholic son. I go to Alanon to stay sane and try and take care of me and stop trying to control the alcoholic because until they decide to quit I am just wasting my time. I should know because I am an alcoholic myself and stopped drinking 10/01/02. It runs in my family and my son's Dad died from alcoholism when he was 4. It is a horrible disease and the only cure is abstinance. AA helped me to get rid of the resentments I used to drink over and learn how not to form new ones. I did not quit until I was within a year of dying from Liver disease and I had to make up my mind and put myself in rehab and then go to meetings daily for a few years but I never want to drink again ever. I hope I don't have to bury my son but if that is Gods will I will get through it and not drink over it. Today I know I was born with a predisposition to drink. From my first drink I got crazy drunk which is not normal and my son did the same thing. My daughter did not and doesn't drink at all. Try Alanon, It really helped me. Good luck!"
11/01/2011: Natural Living from Destin, Florida : "Would you suggest something to help reduce the effects of alcohol withdrawal and help reduce depression (not clinical depression just general blue feeling that lasts for a few days...... especially after drinking in excess)."Replies
11/01/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Natural Living, Dr. Hoffer had great success using Niacin therapy with alcoholics. It also helps with the depression issue.
I would imagine that you also have a candida issue with all the sugar in alcohol so treating that would also help.
11/01/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Up the B complex vitamins big time. In a week you'll feel a different person."
11/02/2011: Jenny from Sydney, Australia replies: "Hi. I would agree re probably having candida with the alcoholism. I have thought for some time that part of alcoholism is craving sugar. I have had candida for 20 years or so and most of the time had trouble with craving sugar. I used to think I was weak willed and rarely could control the cravings. EV coconut oil is the first thing that has helped me balance my blood sugar and stop the cravings. It has made a world of difference to how I feel and what I eat. I also drank wine most evenings - would need a drink by 6 pm although usually only had one or two glasses. Now I have a glass of wine once a week. I started with a teaspoon of EVCO twice a day and have built up to the recommended 3 Tablespoons daily on this website. If that is added into the diet it may also help with the alcoholism. Good Luck!"
07/27/2011: Anna88 from Mannheim, Germany: "Hello, My husband is habitual drinker. He drinks daily 1L wine or 6 beers daily. During our three years of marriage I have seen him drinking after work and at night before dinner. We are trying to concieve but due to his low sperm motility are not yet sucessful. I have made all my efforts to convince him to quit drinking but all in vain. He is not willing to stop drinking thats why I cant take help of a doctor. Can I use Ted's Remedies for alcoholism? Is it safe to do detox at home? if my husband is willing to do that because he also wants to be a father of a baby. Can I use kudzu with folic acid, B3, B complex, lecithin and magnesium? Can you suggest me what must I have to do? What home remedy will be suitable for my husband."Replies
07/27/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Yeh the problem is that in a man who drinks , is that the testosterone is turned into estrogen. The reverse happens in women. The downside is the lowered sperm production.. The upside is I bet hes got a healthy head of hair. Garlic will also lower sperm production as well. He will have to knock off the beer and wine ."
08/21/2011: Cate from Melbourne, Vic., Australia replies: "Hiya, haven't read the thread but saw the response from Gavin while I'm searching for some other info. on todays posts...
Re. eliminating alcohol; I have "the alcoholic's gene" as Mother always said. Went through a fifteen year bout with binge drinking, black-outs, alc. Poisoning, no social gatherings without it. Slippery slope that one.
Turns out once I mastered my diet I no longer crave- or even much like the stuff. Us kiwi's (in particular) really need to keep an eye out- our food/farming/soil content is MUNTED, so even if you're eating veges you'd want to know they're as organic/biodynamic as possible, same with meat I'm afraid. It is the only way you'll meet the B complex nutrition to prevent an alcohol dependency. Dad died of complications of alcoholism, same with his mother and her brothers. I have siblings who are possibly coming close, and I had a narrow escape. That said, I still love a glass of pinot in a bar for old times sake, but go home and forget about it for the next year or so. Please read 'Nutrition and Physical Degeneration' by Weston A. Price and cure yourself/alcohol issue with food.
Spoken by one who has GENUINELY BEEN THERE (and back again)."
05/08/2009: Carol from Hesperia, CA: "I have a question, if someone could give me some feed back that would be great. I recently quit drinking (60 days now!) I feel alot better and have lost 20 pounds, but my skin looks worse and the dark circles under my eyes have gotten a great deal darker and i have real puffy bags to where i didnt before when i was drinking??? Im frustrated! I am taking a multi-vit, omega 3's, and started 2 Tlbs. ACV/ 1/4 tsp. cayenne a couple a days ago. I did go to the Drs. and have blood work and tests done, waiting on the results. My bp was great but she put me on Welbutrion to help me quit smoking but im hesitant on taking it. Im tring to rid my body of all these toxins (years of heavy drinking) and she puts me on Drugs go figure!!! Please Help"Replies
05/09/2009: Mary Frances from Mineral Wells, Texas, USA replies: "This is a reply to Carol from Hesperia, Ca. Resently, I was reading a book and found a suggestion that taking 35% food grade H2O2 daily, is a good solution for alcoholism with good side effects of alleviating dark circles under the eyes. Her suggestions are that you start with 3 drops in 6 to 8 oz. of distilled water three times a day. You add a drop each day until you reach 25 drops three times a day, then back off at the same rate until you get to 3 drops three times a day again and stay there for maintance. You might give that a try. Good Luck and God Bless."
05/09/2009: T from Maryland, USA replies: "Carol, congratulations on 2 months sober! Be patient, it will take some time for the body to show you the happier results. Drinking and smoking greatly rob your body of nutrients, and it will take time to get that optimized and to actually see the results - but you know that can't really progress if you're still smoking. You definitely CAN quit smoking without drugs. I quit cold turkey after nearly 25 years at 1.5 packs a day. Once I had the right mindset I was able to do it reasonably aggravation-free, and I've never looked back! You already know you can make big changes for yourself, because you did that with the drinking. You definitely have the strength :) A helpful tool, which I didn't use myself but have heard many great things about, may be to read Allen Carr's books. Check out the large number of positive reviews on Amazon for "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking". The book is cheap; you really have nothing to lose. Apart from stopping smoking, make sure your diet is excellent. Lots of salads, little or no sugar, stay away from the bad fats, all forms of MSG, artificial colorings and sweeteners. You may want to add a B-complex and milk thistle (for the liver) to your supplements; some inositol would probably be a good thing as well. Give yourself 6 months smoke-free and with a great diet and I bet you'll see fantastic improvements! Good luck, and please keep us posted on your progress!"
05/12/2009: PR from Houston, Texas replies: "I was listening to the link below on nutrition and the speaker was saying that sometimes when you change your health habits you can get dark circles and puffy eyes, etc. as your body is not use to it and is going through changes and cleansing. He had some very helpful ways to deal with these effects. Hope this helps. http://robertvon.com/"
EC: PR, have you tried the Mini Beet Protocol for fluoride detoxing that he writes about on that website? Sounds interesting...
05/13/2009: Carol from Hesperia, CA replies: "To Mary Frances, T and PR, Thank you all so much for your encouragement and remedies. Today is May 13, 65 days and going strong! Still smoking though. =( One thing at a time is how I see it for now, can't have to many things on my plate or i will drop it! PR, I listened to Robert Von late last night and this morning and I found him so interesting that I didn't get what I needed to done, I was totally pulled in by the conversation! ALot of great info, thought I would try blending the tomatoes and romaine lettuce every morning to see if it helps the dark circles. I have been eating a very good diet containing lots of veggies, protein shakes, ground turkey, chicken and lots of green tea and water. My supplements are multi-vite, omega 3, 3 Tlbs ACV w/ 1/2 tsp cayenne daily, stress vit-B complex and still need to get the milk thistle. I had a few more questions:
I am taking 2 Tlbs ACV w/ 1/4 tsp. cayenne pepper in the morning and then 1 Tlbs in the evening, is this too much, too little, and should I add some baking soda to it? I am also ingesting organic, unrefined coconut oil in the morning ( 1 Tlbs in my coffee) is this OK? To Mary: is H202 peroxide? To T: What is Inositol and what is its function?
Thank you all sooooo much for your time but most of all for CARING! Thanks also to Earth Clinic for have such a wonderful website!
05/14/2009: PR from Houston, Texas replies: "Hi Carol, I am glad that you found Robert Von lecture helpful. It has helped me a lot and explains some of the things I had been going through. I have tried the mini beet protocol on a smaller scale and love it. You do have to be careful with if you don't eat enough apples as it does purge the toxins out and I do mean purge. If you don't do enough apples it will knot you on your butt as they can't get out fast enough. From my understanding you need to eat a lot of vegetables to build your body up so it can handle the herbs and other benefical supplements which is what I have been working on. I got into trouble when I was taking cayenne too fast my body couldn't handle it. You will know if you aren't ready for some of these these as you will not feel so good. It is hard to answer how much of anything for any body is too little or too much as everybody is different. When you get ready to quit smoking (which I agree one thing at time) there is a book named Utimate Healing with a really good protocl for stopping to smoke. Hope this has helped some. Keep up the good work!!!!!"
05/14/2009: T from Maryland, USA replies: "Hi Carol! It looks like you've got a good routine there with the diet and all. The smoking cessation will come; you've planted the seeds and I am sure you will reap the rewards in due time. See if your library has the Allen Carr book anyway - he even tells you to keep smoking while you read! Consider it preemptive, low-effort psychological warfare against the addiction monster ;)
Inositol is a B vitamin which helps clear the liver, among many other benefits. I use a powder. It's sweet and taken easily in a drink, even plain water. Here is a link with info on it:
You might choose to take lecithin instead, which combines inositol and choline. I personally won't take the usual lecithin supplements as I have concerns about soy, but you can also get plenty of lecithin in dandelion, capsules of which are easily found in places like GNC. Any of these plus the milk thistle are a good idea to utilize. Your liver needs the support for detox and healing from alcohol damage.
In case Mary doesn't make it back to this thread - yes, H202 is hydrogen peroxide. As for the ACV you're taking, I really don't know what an ideal amount is. I sip a little bit in water all day long and have no ill effects (I'm guessing I take in several Tbs. a day altogether). I personally don't add baking soda as I really can't stand it in the water, but my pH levels are fine so I don't worry about it (you can get pH test strips at Amazon if you want to check on yours). If you don't mind the baking soda, then just follow Ted's instructions found elsewhere here for taking it. I think the coconut oil you're taking is fine if it's giving you no side effects, and you might see some great benefits from it.
Continue to keep us posted - there will be people looking in here for possibly years to come who will benefit from your experiences! And besides that, we would love to know how you're doing.
Sending big hugs back at you! :)"
02/09/2013: Pollito from Ventura, California , U.s. replies: "I was reading about a lady from Hesperia Ca. that gave up alcohol and is trying to give up smoking.
I gave up smoking using an acupuncture technique to the ears. The little coiled pins were taped to the ear by an accupuncturist in the locations for 1 week and then moved to the alternate ear for a week and this went on for a month or a little more. By then the urge to smoke was gone.
Everybody is different so the time and effectiveness could be different. If there is a relapse at some point due to some emotional issue, don't give up, redo the process. I had several relapses.
I haven't smoked in years. Exercising everyday even in limited amounts helps the body to resist."
Sea Salt and Water Cure
07/28/2011: Marlon from Melbourne, Australia: "about your problem with your craving for beer and alcohol and low libido... Try the water and sea salt cure.. It works amazing.. Your craving for anything stops and you have a total control of yourself.. Your libido will be at its highest and you will no longer need viagra.. Thats how amazing it works... try it you will not regret it...
07/31/2012: Samuel from Auckland, New Zealand replies: "How often do u take that and how many teaspoon to a glass of water."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand: "As in most remedies against addiction, it involves the lowered serotonin levels that bought about such condition, generally speaking. Hence remedies that increase serotonin levels is the key but not used in practice, but can be extremely effective if done right. I have noted a friend of mind "suddenly" one day disappeared the addiction to cigarettes completely but that was due to his dietary pattern changes that helped his brain restore its ability of serotonin as I have observed.
Depressant drugs (ie., heroine, opium, alcohol, etc.) lowers the serotonin signals through their suppression of neuroactivity but does not directly resolve this problem. In extreme cases, the brain through the use of drugs also loses its ability to produce serotonin and takes weeks to restore the brain's ability to produce serotonin, bringing extreme suffering for its victim.
People feels anxiety and withdrawal syndrome whenever cigarettes or alcohol are withdrawn, but from different causes but they are still linked to reduction in serotonin levels.
A cigarettes has a nicotine, so if the brain level is already low with nicotinic acid for example (vitamin B3 niacinamide), the nicotine, being a close cousin of the nicotinic acid or vitamin B3 niacinamide, actually does lower the anxiety problems, but is not nutritionally relevant and hence damages the brain in the long run. B3 or niacinamide, by the way is related to the brain's synthesis of serotonin and is one of the required nutrients. A simple demonstration of its effectiveness of reduction of anxiety level can be noted if I took B3 niacinamide, about 300-500 mg mixed in a water, and the feeling of reduction of anxiety or burn out can be felt within 30 minutes. It is actually faster, but 30 minutes is my worse case scenario. Similar instance can be noted if a general amino acid supplements (or predigested protein) are taken, but those take a bit longer within one hour, because certain amino supplements don't have suffient amount of them.
In case of an alcoholic addiction it is seen with a twist, the alcohol's depressive effects lowers the brain activity, thus reducing the need for serotonin only temporary, because brain activity is reduced. Whenever the alcohol goes out the system, the brain also loses some ability to produce serotonin due to the physiological damaging effects of alcohol has on the brain. Hence, the brain needs serotonin, but instead of treating the cause, we turn our backs and take alcohol or even barbiturates, which again lowers the need for serotonin without actually resolving the cause.
Hence, the addiction cycles becomes vicious and the more alcohol is taken the worse it becomes. Although I won't deny the blood sugar hypothesis to addiction because alcohol helps replenish the sugar. A much simpler solution can be seen by eating candies, toffees and chocolate. However I don't see any alcholic running to eat candies or even at least a glucose supplement to raise his blood sugar. Hence, in psychology, the science of addiction is understood to be serotonin as the primary cause of addiction and eating candies to raise sugar level or at least stabilize it won't help directly in reducing such addiction.
A more reasonable approach appears to be to take supplements to HELP in raising the serotonin levels as being the remedy to resolve this addiction problem. Obviously I can use generalized remedies against this through eating fishes (high in protein, an hence amino acid), eating brocolli and partially cook liver (high in vitamin Bs).
Of course a more specific supplement might more fitting in raising the serotonin. The most well known amino acid is the tryptophan, which helps reduce anxiety level and helps increase serotonin levels, but can also help in certain children (ADHD) with restless leg syndrome just the same. Firing of serotonin levels if it becomes problematic, can lead to restless leg syndrome, hyperactivity, anxiety, learning disorders, addiction, and even grinding of teeth during sleep (serotonin and heavy metals are implicated here). Hence, for an adult dose I might consider 1000 mg-3000 mg of tryptophan, for example.
The second one I think that has helped is the niacinamide B3 about 300 mg, biotin about 8 mg, vitamin C sodium ascorbate 1000 mg, and some B6 about 100 mg, zinc gluonate 50 mg three times a week, as well as the general vitamin B complex overall three times a week, as one possibility. Those are synergistic in helping the brain produce serotonin. But this list is not complete, without considering a tiny amount of lithium, which is a required nutrition. Its been known for ages that lithium helps stabilize the serotonin levels. This is one reason why a person who gets addicted easily to alcohol do so because his level of serotonin is unstable and lithium is implicated as one possiblity, as opposed to the blood sugar hypothesis. The dose for lithium is extremely small if we compare to people who take it for other reasons, and the dose that I find ideally are about 5-10 mg of lithium citrate or lithium carbonate. A bipolar disorder uses a large amount, such as 250 mg, but I think at that dose, they are physiologically damaging to the such size of the dose. Hence, I would much prefer to take supplements that help increase serotonin and stabilize them if an alcholic addiction or even a withdrawal symptoms, or even people who desire to quit smoking or drinking, a supplements such as these are called for.
Now I am not trying to discourage the use of glutamine amino acid, but there is some study to show that the increase of serotonin lead to a decrease in glutamine (Molecular Pharmacology, Vol 13, 640-651, Copyright © 1977 by the American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, Inhibition by Serotonin of Amino Acid Release and Protein Degradation in Skeletal Muscle) and this leads me to wonder whether the opposite is true, such as increases in glutamine, leads to decrease in serotonin. However, what I can be for certain is amino acid supplements will generally increase the serotonin but a more direct approach might be to take tryptophan amino acid as a more direct approach. I will also at least consider niacinamide B3 as the second most important one, but others should not be generally ignored either.
Even if addiction is dealt with, I cannot ignore the negative effects alcohol does in destroying the liver, and certain supplements are protective of fatty liver from alcohol and hence granulated lecithin, one tablespoon. Assuming the theory of unstable blood sugar is at risk, well stabilizing the blood sugar are most effective from the lecithin and perhaps the glutamine, however, I would concentrate more phyisological dependency of the brain to drugs, cigarettes and alcohol as the primary consideration at the very least."
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12/15/2009: Lmc from Charlotte, Nc: "Ted's remedies for alcoholism
suffering from anxiety and depression, I have tried several recommened remedies: GABA, 5htp, Ltryptophan, and now b-complex with additional inositol with cholin. I have found that all of these remedies actually increase my symptoms. could my problem be something other than serotonin? If so, what is a suggested remedy?"
EC: Lmc is referring to Ted's remedies here: http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/alcoholism.html#TED
12/16/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Lmc,
There is another remedy that may detoxify the liver from alcohol, which is alpha lipoic acid taken along with food at about 100 mg along meal with some vitamin E, 200 i.u. and vitamin C 500 mg.
Suffering from anxiety and depressions needs very different supplements. This one deals with alcohol that does liver damage.
If I am looking at anxiety and depression I will likely look at 600 mcg of selenium and amino acid supplements, and perhaps niacinamide B3 500 mg to calm things down."
08/30/2009: Devon from Johnson, Vt: "Hey Ted, interesting article on Alcohol addiction. I was surprised to see very little on Glutamine, but then at the end noticed it mentioned. From what I was reading Glutamine under the tongue can have an immediate effect on alcohol craving. Also, I noticed you singled out Seritonin entirely as the nerotransmission basis for your article. Makes me curious about the other transmitters; in particular I thought that dopamine release was related to alcohol as well. Finally, I thought that Kudzu would be a worthy mention as well. Thanks for your article."Replies
05/06/2011: Tittiger from Springfield, Missouri, State Of Missouri replies: "Hmmm do not see where to post a new thread so I reply instead.....
It seems that the Gentleman that started AA origionally included a large (3 gm) dose of Niacin as part of the program but that was buried for y. A lot of this is included in the book "The Vitamin Cure for Alcoholism: How to Protect Against and Fight Alcoholism Using Nutrition and Vitamin Supplementation"
To make things short these are the supplements suggested in the book:
B vitamins complex - plus B3 niacin 3,000 mg
vitamin C 2,000 mg
amino acid L-glutamine
It worked miracles with my cravings. Read the book if you have to."
05/06/2011: Diamond from Salisbury, Ma.usa replies: "Tittiger;I do not feel that what you are writing or copied per se' is totally accurate about an alcoholic, it takes much rigorous work such as mental, emotional, physical and spiritual to help with alcoholism. Please be aware of what real damage can do if any drunk should feel this really works.
If vitamins are not a sure thing for a sick or dying person then who is to say that the vitamins you say or copied are rest assured to work? Not.
There are millions of alcoholics still out there too ashamed to go to AA with hopes one day there will be an easier, simpler cure. In all honesty most of us may live on blind faith, I know I do. Good luck"
05/07/2011: Rethinking from Earth replies: "I think different people develop addictions for different reasons. Be it drugs (which includes legal ones such as alcohol), food, sex, prescription meds, overspending, coffee, sugar, fat, etc.
Vitamin therapy may work for some (it did for me), others do better with therapy, or AA, or meds, etc. This is because we are not all addicts because of one single reason. We really need to stop thinking in terms of "one disease, one cure". This is the basis of allopathy and look where it took us. Everybody is different. We need to find what works for us, as an individual.
I personally attended NA for a while, and while it is an outstanding group helping millions of people worldwide, it didn't work for me. I left every meeting having insane cravings because that's all we talked about: drugs! So I had to find my own thing. Cure doesn't come in one package. Find your own."
05/18/2011: Ricardo from Waterbury, Ct replies: "This is a response to Diamond on her comment. I use to think that way too. You know chemical imbalances and micro organisms living inside you can make you think and act differently that you really like to act. Addiction to anything can be clearly caused by these facts. Example: a person who suffers with Candida for example think that they love sugar and starchy foods. When you treat the disease the "LOVE" will disappear.
Alcoholism is not a psychological problem, lets think. The alcohol is loaded with yeast used in the fermentation process. The fungus already inside the body creates the necessity for the beverage. One time I gave some Candida treatment to my sister, very alcoholic, 45 years alcoholic, the worst case. She stayed away from alcohol long time, then later she went back to the addiction. She would not stay with the treatment a little longer, she was good for awile. With no counseling or AA, anything and she was sober for several weeks. Obviously she should stay longer until the detoxification was complete. If the psychological part was true how come she stayed sober for such long time?
One time I was on a sugar diet, I felt fantastic, the best in my life. I was thin and lean, the people noticing me. The problem is, it is a lot of work finding foods without sugar, a full time job. My love for sugar disappeared completely. Now I know that an addiction has nothing to do with psychological problems. People with mind problems will do whatever wrong things they like to, but not necessarily be an addicted person. Addiction is a disease in the body. Too much toxins, nutritional deficiency and stress are the cause. All of this plus chaos electromagnetic. Treat these problems and all diseases will be gone. Take care."
03/12/2012: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "Strange. I was only a social drinker for about 15 years, the last 10 years being very rare that I had a drink. The first 5 years I would have a couple of drinks on a Friday after work--but not every week. Twenty years after I drank my last drink at a wedding (which was my first drink in 10 years), I came up with fatty liver disease. Would that small amount of alcohol have caused this? Dr. Oz says it comes from sugar. I found that taking milk thistle with artichokes helped a lot and ordering fresh salads with artichokes were helpful. I also drank dandelion tea religously. I was able to reverse it, but now it's back. I didn't know dandelion contained lecithin. I tried soy lecithin granules and had a severe allergic reaction. Never again!!! I've had gallstones come and go. Sometimes, when I noticed they came back, I would go out and eat a big greasy burger with fries. It would flush everything out of me. Seemed to work, anyway. Love this site and all the information available! Thanks, EC."
[YEA] 04/21/2012: Andrea from Glendale, Ca replies: "Absolutley an incredible and insightful remedy for alcoholism and addiction! I can honestly say, that after following Ted's thorough and simple plan addressing the several complex issues of addiction, my life has completely changed. I have tried every remedy (even Ambien and Lunesta as a last result would not work) for the insomnia associated with alcoholism. This brilliant and logical plan rid me of all of my withdrawal and cravings. The only thing I did not follow 100% was that I took his suggested supplements every day instead of three times a week. I did this for about a month. Now, I just take the supplements once or twice a week. It's like a miracle. I highly recommend the lecithin, as well. I really feel it helped my liver get back into shape! I frequently use this site for other ailments. I don't know why it never occured to me to look up "alcoholism" until recently! Thank you Ted and Earth Clinic!!"
03/07/2014: Danial from Berlin,germany replies: "Hi Andrea, great, very happy on your success, Congratulations.I am in th e same boat and want to quit alcohol.Would you like to tell me how have you taken L-tryptophan, B3, and other vitamins?Did you quit alcohol cold turkey or gradually?Did you drink any alcohol during treatment or notice any interaction with vitamins or L-tryptophan.I want to know your whole protocol of supplements and vitamins.I am in great trouble.Please help me if other ECs members have any information and experience about this topic .Thanks in advance for any feedback."
03/07/2014: Mike62 from Denver replies: "Danial: I had drinking problems off and on for 30 years. When I was bored and unhappy, bogged down in civilizations ludicrous hype, sometimes I would turn to alcohol. That became a habit. When I liked what I was doing and the people I was doing that with I became interested in becoming proficient so I stopped drinking. When I was homeless instead of drinking I read books. I was always interested in whatever I was reading. When I got disability I learned to operate a computer and studied folk medicine. I have not drank too much in 20 years. There are 2 addictions. 1 is the buzz. The other is the mechanical action of drinking. You can try this remedy to cure both addictions. Put 100g activated barley in 1 gallon of water. Sip on that all day long. Activated barley has enzymes to give you a buzz and sipping replaces the mechanical addiction. Try getting interested in something. You can do like me, read books and study the way food affects cellular biology."