Arthritis for Borax

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Jua (Madrid) on 02/02/2017:
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Hello Ted,

I want to thank greatly you share all their knowledge and good work with us. This page has been and is of great help for me.

I have approximately 3 months taking borax, solution 1/8 teaspoon in water (a little less volume) mixed with the juice of half a lemon and sea salt (1/8 also). I have several issues that I wanted to try: rosacea and rheumatoid arthritis, all a result of perimenopause, with hormonal imbalances also.

I take this solution 5 days a week. I want to keep taking it because it helps me a lot (already do not hurt me the bones of the hand and is being corrected me enough inflammation of the index finger), but the problem is that it makes me very sleepy. What should I do? Am I doing something wrong? Sorry for my English and many thanks again.

Greetings and best wishes.

P.S. I take tablets of vitamin E, D3+K2, magnesium, and vitamin B2. I guess it is important

Thanks a lots

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Sue (Vermont) on 09/14/2016:
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Thanks for the info on Herxheimer. It can take weeks to get through??? I'm on day 10 of Herxheimer, mostly feeling fatigue, and on week 6 of the borax treatment. The arthritis, which is all over my body from head to toe, has improved some. Am I just being impatient? Can't wait for a cure!
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Patricia (Downsville) on 07/04/2016:
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I somehow got to the information on this site about borax and was fascinated by the testimonials. I was wondering why the people stopped posting to it. It has been a over a year. Do you think it's because it really doesn't work to cure arthritis as Walter Last says it does?

I have been taking it since June 20 and I am still alive. Amazing. I am taking Mr. Last's recommendation 1 level tsp in a liter of water as my base solution. I started with 1 tsp of this solution 3 times a day for me and 1/4 tsp for my under 10 pound cat. Was it Rex Newman who took 30 milligrams of borax twice a day because he figured out that 30 grams was toxic. This gave him 6 mgs of boron per day which eventually cured his arthritis. I hope I have this info correct.

I must say I was fearful to take something that says not to take it internally. I was still alive (not sick) after a week so I decided to take two three times a day. Now I am up to three three times a day and guess what I am still alive and so is my cat.

My neck was unable to turn very far right or left because it was stiff. The amount of turn has increased enough to say that something is happening.

I am trying to figure out how to ingest 30mgs of borax a day into my body so I can get 6 mgs of boron a day. Does anyone know how to compute it?


EC: Dear Patricia,

We get borax feedback regularly on EC. Please make sure to read our borax page for the most recent reviews.

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Greta (Kentucky) on 05/14/2016:
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I am not sure you are completely right about the timeline for seeing results in arthritis using borax. I started on my 4 day cycle of 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of spring water each day and got immediate relief. I finished my 4 days and did it again after nothing for 4 days. I finished second round and I feel I didn't need it. My large swollen knuckles were pain free in the first round. It did take a few months for the swelling to go down. I have friends that see the results as quickly as I did. When your body gets what it needs it doesn't wait to repair itself. Occasionally it seems to start again and only a day or two of the borax in water seems to fix it.

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D (C) on 04/29/2016:
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The pain in my knees and hips was too painful to go up stairs too quickly.

After 1 week on borax: I went to the movies and the steps up were so hard and painful before borax-- this time I found my self running up the stairs with very little pain in the knees and no pain in the hips--wow--I thought its been years since I did that stair stepping with no pain wow--borax is a miracle for me.

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Jacqui (Devon, Uk) on 03/02/2016:
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I got my Mule Team Borax from Ebay. It tastes a bit soapy, but I put into some Cherry cordial, and one teaspoon of the liquid concentrate really doesn't taste at all in that.

My fingers (RA) don't hurt at all today, and it's damp and cold here in the UK. Result!

Also, my kidney/bladder is not complaining at all today, either. (Healed UTI and suspected stone because of continuing trace blood in urine). Will test for blood at the end of the week.

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Pip (Australia, Victoria) on 02/19/2016:
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Hi all, Borax rocks....of the laundry shelf, in the supermarket. I sprinkle it on like table salt, on my breakfast, and a little sugar ( its breakfast you know )...its through you by seven hours, but for me once a day is enough. Its fantastic, it like lubricates my joints, eliminates pain, and sparks me up.

Me - 61yrs, Rhm/A, Ost/A, require a knee opp, but planning not to for go it, so little pain, am thinking I may reduce all the medications, soon, been taking it over a year and a half, into my second jar of Borax.

Some of you are a little pedantic on consumption. Over use will cause nausea and diarrhea, just like to much table salt. So try and see what works for you. The rest of my diet stayed the same. No harm in trying this ...Borax.

Better health to you all. Pip

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Julieh12 (Scotland ) on 02/09/2016:
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Better But With Side Effects

Hello, I have been supplementing with borax for five days. I have followed Ted's guidelines on 1/8 of a teaspoon in litre of water and drink further bottled water throughout the day. I am also taking 200mg magnesium, vit b, vitd, vit c, evening primrose, and fish oil.

I have osteopenia brought on by early menopause, I'm currently post menopausal, I'm 45. I also have some arthritis in my fingers and toes. The arthritis is my main reason for supplementing as I'm a seamstress and will need to work well to my retirement. The first day I'm sure felt some relief but things seem to have slowed down. Although. Have no pain I still have bumps and stiffness.

I have also had some diarrhoea the past two days but this could be my ibs. I just wanted to ask everyone's experience with time scales and if the diarrhoea will pass. I'm still using fluoride toothpaste as non fluoride is so expensive, however I do have plenty of coconut oil and bicarb. Any advice please. Thank you.

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Doug (4870) on 11/16/2015:
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G'day Russel from Oz,

I have been using Turkish Borax in my diet and home for a couple of years with arthritis and osteoarthritis and am very pleased with the results, severe pain has subsided to occasional negligible and generally bearable.

Your question regarded mixing it with water ... I began with a 1/4 teaspoon orally, twice a day washed down with lemon water and as I began to go through the healing process, I gradually weaned myself to, currently, using it as you would use salt.

That is to say, anything that I cook with salt, I add as much Borax as salt. When I bake my bread, I add as much Borax as salt. I brush my teeth with virgin coconut oil, Borax and hydrogen peroxide.

I live in the northern tropical zone of Oz and to keep the ants, cockroaches etcetera at bay I use honey, Borax and some warm water to blend them .

Russell, you are only limited by your own imagination, do your research and be thorough.

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Naomi S. (Milwaukee, Wi) on 09/25/2015:
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I'm 51 and for 25+ years, I had ankylosing spondylitis, psoratic arthritis and osteoarthritis, with various related/resulting conditions like hay fever, depression, anxiety, addiction, eczema, tinnitus.

Three and a half months ago, after eliminating all pharmaceuticals, I started daily with 4 teaspoons of borax solution (solution is one teaspoon of borax mixed with a liter of water) and 500 mg's of magnesium (1000 mg's for the first ten days); and since I thought I also might have Pyroluria, I included zinc, B6, D3 and Omega 6 supplements. All my conditions are 90% better.

The healing reactions were tiring at times, especially in the third month when most severe. After three months, I reduced the borax to a maintenance dose of two teaspoons daily. Any persistent minor healing reactions are declining and no longer problematic.

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Brian (Gold Coast) on 05/25/2015:
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To the forum, of the forum, Advice please?

Have been on borax now for around 1 month. Started with the anti fungal dosing protocol, massive eruptions of very hot painful diarrhea and when that stopped moved up to a quarter tspn 3 times a day. Excellent results first 2 - 3 weeks, massive weight loss and tons of energy. About 2 weeks ago began to feel washed out and ill, so stopped for 2 days and started again on 1/4 tspn 2 a day. Fine for a few days then depression hit. Lot of muccus out of nose and chest and chest very painful. Headaches, very sore eyeballs and weeping tears. Could be a bad cold but dont think so. Have not been able to work, feel too sick. Couldn't find anything within the forum like me other than mycoplasma infection posted by Replied by Mycoplasma
Geneva, Switzerland
10/04/2014.

Am I taking too much? Is it a healing sickness? Any imput welcome. b

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Cw (Napa, US) on 12/19/2014:
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WOW! This is awesome!!

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Mycoplasma (Geneva, Switzerland) on 10/04/2014:
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People who take Borax:

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or other treatments like ClO2, Mefloquine, Neemleaf extract, and all other chemical substances that have affect on Mycoplasma will cause huge eruptions into the blood stream. As a consequence, people will get severe diarrhea. Dosing should be started with low amounts, especially on heavily affected people, who may otherwise end up in hospital in the lucky case.

One problem that occurs on this site is the fact, that dosages are improperly discussed. Fractions of teaspoons are improper ways to measure. I tested this and just on Borax 1/8th of a teaspoon can vary between 300 mg to 800 mg. I really would suggest to get a proper balance that can handle milligrams and start talking about dosages in body dosages in milligrams (but please put in your weight in kg as well) and the time intervals it is taken, so that a daily dose would come clear as well.

If the webmaster would support it, we could start taking information on a scientific level instead of staying in the semi-knowledge.

I am studying this mycoplasma since over two years and could benefit from better statistics, if the forum would be willing to support proper statistic data on their experience. I am quite startled how wide spread the problem is affecting nearly everyone.

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Marilyn (Qld) on 07/13/2014:
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Following on from my comment. Just wanted to say that have found out I have psoriasis arthritis (even tho never had psoriasis) and have now started to see some results with the borax. A bony growth that had started on a knuckle has almost disappeared and the feeling that I had had in my fingers of the arthritis growing has diminished. Is anyone else out there with psoriasis arthritis in hands trying this with any results? The aches in my knee's which I have had since childhood have also disappeared. I will continue on with the borax.

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Helen In Houston (Houston, Texas Usa) on 02/08/2014:
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I tried boron for a minor arthritis in some fingers. The first evening there was a tiny bit of stinging at the tip of one finger. The next evening the tips of several fingers on one hand stung. The third evening the tips of all fingers on one hand were stinging enough to keep me awake. It's a couple months ago I don't remember if the tips of the other hand were starting to sting or not, I think so but am not sure.

Nowhere near a joint of fingernail - the fleshy fingertips were stinging badly. I was really scared. Stopped the boron, then the stinging died away over about 4 days.

20 Mule team Borax, ingredients sodium tetraborate, 1/8t tsp (or somewhat less) in a quart of water over the day.

I searched for what stinging fingertips could be a symptom of but found nothing, no web site suggesting boron for arthritis suggests any such side effect, so I'm curious if anyone has any idea what might have been going on. I was using 2 tsp ACV + baking soda in a liter of water over the course of the day at the same time. ACV has never caused side effects for me.

The boron had no effect on the arthritis as far as I can tell but I used it only those few days.

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Starswalker (Los Angeles) on 08/16/2013:
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I wonder if Ted would be able to jump into this conversation, and give us (even) a little bit more on Borax. I confess I am feeling a tiny scared today about using it, but I believe it must be good, and I want to continue. Let me tell the story: I found Earth Clinic a while back, and got addictid to it. I started using some of the treatments and protocols prescribed here, and I am happy, even though I don't have any reason for fireworks. ACV+baking soda and molasses became integral part of my life. For me it is the general sense of well being that counts, and I am feeling good. About a month ago I started feeling a increasing pain in my left arm, which came from nowhere. I went to the doctor, and an xray was taken, and the doctor said I have a mild arthrits in my shoulder junction (it hurts a lot, and I don't take medications). Instead of going to another doctor, I came straight to EC, where I spend a couple of days reading everything possible about the use of Borax, and finally yesterday I started. I put 1/8 of 20 Mule Team borax in one liter of water, and sipped it throught the day, without any complication. Today on the other hand, things changed: I went to the bathroom again and again, until I felt empty. I felt a general weakness in my body and my heart seems to be working harder, there is a heavy sensation on my left side (heart?) and in my chest. As I said, I want to continue taking it, and resolve this pain the way God and nature intended me to, but this sensation in my heart and the weakness is making me a little bit weary. Please, give what you have, as much as it is possible. I will stop it until I get an answer. Thank you so much, this is a great place to be, and I appreciate all the people hanging around and exchanging information and support. You find love in the most unexpected places!!!!!
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Gregory (Brampton, Ontario, Canada) on 02/14/2012:
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I am 54 years old and for the last few years, my knee joints have really been sore. I started to take 5000 IU's Vit D3 per day for the last year or so. That has helped a lot, but I still feel sore, especially in the morning. I also have psoriasis, so maybe the soreness in my joints is the psoriatic arthritus creeping in.

I thought, after reading about borax here on this forum, I would give it a try. In one day, the soreness in my knees has vanished! Maybe it is too early to make any assumptions... Can it be true?

Also, my psoriasis seems alot better after 2 days drinking 1/4 tsp borax in 1 litre of water per day. I guess it it still to early to tell.... but I am amazed so far!!

I shall keep everyone informed on my progress....

I love this forum.....

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Pj (Columbia, Sc) on 10/13/2011:
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First of all I would like to thank this board for being here. I have suffered with septic arthritis in my hip for a little over 2 years now. I was googling :) and came across Earth Clinic. I decided to try the Borax for my arthtritis since nothing else seems to work. I started it last saturday at the 1/8 teaspoon in a liter of water. I have felt better everyday so far, but today I cannot believe I almost have no pain at all!! I am so giddy I don't even want to go to sleep, I just want to enjoy not feeling the terrible pain I have been in. Now I want to go see my pain doc and tell him that it only cost me a few cents to get out of pain, compared to all the expensive drugs and injections he gave me. Thanks again, keep on posting!

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Carly (Seattle, Wa - Usa) on 01/01/2011:
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Hi - Re Borax... I take Boron every day in capsul form. It is amazing for arthritis. I used to have bad hand pain every morning, now I only have it when I have not taken my boron for a few days. I am wondering if Borax and Boron are similar or even the same thing? I am one of those people who has a hard time considering consuming laundry soap. Even in such small amounts, the thought of it is - pardon the pun - hard for me to swallow. ;)

In my opinion anyone with arthritis pain or osteoperosis would do well to look up boron on the search engines. Boron is one of the KEY components for building bone, along with Magnesium, Vitamin D-3 and Calcium. I try to keep my supplimental calcium intake at the lowest level possible and when I do take it it is a 1:1 ratio with Magnesuim. Vitamin D I take at leat 4,000 iu a day. I live in the North, and there is virtually zero sun here in the fall and winter. All I can say is if you have joint pain or bone issues - read up on all of the above - They are amazing! Here is to a Happy and Healthy New Year! Carly

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Becky From Ohio (Ashtabula, Ohio, Usa) on 12/31/2010:
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Steve,
I'm sure someone can address this better than I, but I would like to offer my personal experience to you until a better explanation is posted. I too felt very nervous about consuming something that was labeled "not for human consumption. " I remember reading that the toxicity of borax is about the same as is for salt. (I haven't consulted any MSDS's to prove that thought. I believe you could get those over the internet?) Anyway, I finally decided that 1) the dose was small- 1/8th of a teaspoon generally for women, 1/4 of a teaspoon for mean. 2)Even if it wasn't good for me, it was basically just a little bit of soap? Also- not for human consumption doesn't necessarily mean it will hurt you, just that a government agency won't recommend it. That doesn't mean it IS safe, but it may not mean it isn't.

So, I did try the borax for arthritis pain. Reluctantly at first, but I was quite desperate. I have had GREAT results, and NO bad reactions. Within a few days my knee pain (I'm calling it arthritis, but I'm not sure what was all going on in my knees)was greatly improved. It felt like cement breaking up in my knees. I am still using the borax (along with ACV) most days. I take a break from it every once in a while. If I go too long the "cement" and pain in the knees comes back and I start back on the borax and it clears right up. I suggest it to so many people I know that sound like it might help- but so far no one will try it. They just can't get over it not being made for human consumption. Such a shame. I was very close to having to go to an orthopedic surgeon before I tried the borax. I highly recommend it!

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Rebecca (Ashtabula, Ohio) on 07/04/2010:
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My comment is on the Borax for arthritis. I tried the ACV (for about two weeks) and didn't seem to be getting any results. So, I started adding the 1/8tsp of borax in a liter of water (drank through out the day). The next day after adding the borax, my knees (where I was having "arthritis pains," I'm guessing, I was never diagnosed officially.) began to feel less swollen. It's been about a week and my knees feel about 80% better. I know this is anecdotal, but thought I would share. I cannot prove it was the Borax (or that the ACV didn't also contribute). I am currently continuing with both and will see how it goes. I truly believe it was the borax. I'm 40 yrs old (female) and used to distance run for about twenty years until I started having knee issues. My mother also has osteoarthritis, diagnosed officially. I mention this because I wonder if it could be hereditary? Anyways, thanks for the info on borax. I will continue it and see how it goes. For now, I believe it has given my knees a big turn around in a small amount of time.
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Shaun (Old York, England) on 01/15/2010:
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I have this issue (chondromalacia). It bugged me all my life (right knee), until I discovered what it was late in life (I'm now 58). I resolved the issue with a pinch of borax in my daily porridge, and daily stretching of the quads to get the correct tracking over the knee joint. I assume the borax has also helped as the joint pain in my old broken/dislocated fingers (from playing rugby) has totally cleared up (borax aids in flushing synovial fluid in joints). All in all I believe borax is wonderful, wondwerful stuff! I regularly undertake Ted's (PBUH) CarBiCarb regime, as well as the Apple Cider Vinegar, and so that too may have helped. Also, flushing my sinus's with the CarBiCarb mix (including a 1/2 tsp of sea salt), has also TOTALLY cleared up my asthma (which I also never really knew I had until very late in life!). I try to get everyone to try the borax (for many issues), but some folk are just so lame at giving it a try.
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