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Rebecca (Ashtabula, Ohio) on 07/04/2010
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My comment is on the Borax for arthritis. I tried the ACV (for about two weeks) and didn't seem to be getting any results. So, I started adding the 1/8tsp of borax in a liter of water (drank through out the day). The next day after adding the borax, my knees (where I was having "arthritis pains," I'm guessing, I was never diagnosed officially.) began to feel less swollen. It's been about a week and my knees feel about 80% better. I know this is anecdotal, but thought I would share. I cannot prove it was the Borax (or that the ACV didn't also contribute). I am currently continuing with both and will see how it goes. I truly believe it was the borax. I'm 40 yrs old (female) and used to distance run for about twenty years until I started having knee issues. My mother also has osteoarthritis, diagnosed officially. I mention this because I wonder if it could be hereditary? Anyways, thanks for the info on borax. I will continue it and see how it goes. For now, I believe it has given my knees a big turn around in a small amount of time.

Replied By Pj (Columbia, Sc) on 10/13/2011

First of all I would like to thank this board for being here. I have suffered with septic arthritis in my hip for a little over 2 years now. I was googling :) and came across Earth Clinic. I decided to try the Borax for my arthtritis since nothing else seems to work. I started it last saturday at the 1/8 teaspoon in a liter of water. I have felt better everyday so far, but today I cannot believe I almost have no pain at all!! I am so giddy I don't even want to go to sleep, I just want to enjoy not feeling the terrible pain I have been in. Now I want to go see my pain doc and tell him that it only cost me a few cents to get out of pain, compared to all the expensive drugs and injections he gave me. Thanks again, keep on posting!

Replied By Eveline (Peterborough, Ontario, Canada) on 04/14/2012

I've been putting the borax and xylitol into my drinking water but haven't noticed any change in my arthritic pain. The pain and immobility have been getting worse every day, with it suddenly affecting my fingers as well as elbow, shoulders, but my knees are the worst. I have a hard time walking. I'm only 57. I'm just wondering if someone can explain the protocol about only drinking the borax water for 5 days of the week. I have done many, many things that are recommended to cleanse the body, taking this supplement and that, I don't eat nightshades, I don't eat processed foods, drink pop, eat mainly vegetables, fruits, protein, am off gluten and grains. I've had no relief. I'm not a fan of conventional medicine but have had to succumb to NSAIDs as otherwise I don't think I would even be walking at this point. I get acupuncture, physiotherapy, see a Naturopath and am determined to find the right combination for me to be rid of this. I wouldn't even mind limping if I could just be free of the pain. Thanks.

Replied By Silvermist (Downeast, Maine, Usa) on 05/29/2012

From the fibromyalgia section: Ted and Bill recommend 1/8tsp borax in 1 l water daily for 4 days, off for 3. Continue indefinitely- replaces flouride and may take a long time to get it all removed, plus new exposures. I think Ted somewhere suggested taking a few months off every year. If you feel better, you could stop, then start again when flouride builds back up and causes pain. It is androgenic according to Bill- so you will get a testosterone boost, which gives a little kick to the flagging libido most of us have from toxic crap in our bodies. A tiny bit of testosterone is ok for women, though you don't know how much a pinch of Borax affects testosterone levels. Choose your battles, I suppose.

I have tried many things on this site for I assume flouride toxcity (my mainstream dentist told me I have frank flourosis- stage4 toxicity of flouride), and borax does seem to do something positive for me for pain.

Replied By Andi Hoffman (Germany) on 10/22/2025
Have you tried to add (part of) a drop Lugol's 5% a day, which is a hefty dose of 7.1mg total Iodine?

I have ramped up from the usual 150 µg to 4 drops so 28mg / d, and dine a bottle for a week with dilution.

But before (and while) taking Lugol's I filled up Magnesium (anything but oxide:) and Selenium (anything but NaSe so sodium-selenite as it aggravates heavy metal intoxications, yet the regulation authorities seeM to find this OK). Now ordered some organic mustard seeds based selenium pills fir reasonable price.

Some literature (Stefanie Buist “Supplementing Iodine”) also suggests looking at B vitamins, especially B2 and B3 in this context.

Inexpect Iodine and Borax to enhance their detoxing effects.

Also high doses of Borax can render iodine levels less efficient, so alone from this perspective co-supplementing makes sense.

I believe that 150 µg iodine is way too low, yet do not believe I should go to doses eg Brownstein suggests that helped his patients g40-140mg) without close monitoring of thyroid function ie regular tests of all ( 4?) thyroid parameters. Some people claim Brownstein's book caused a lot if people to disrupt their thyroid as they were not ready fir high iodine doses.

I do take away for me that by careful and mindful dose finding, I may use quite some Lugol's (the only supplement providing us also with elemental Iodine, I2, that some organs need).

And indeed I felt for the first time since astra clot shot in 2021 some energy over day and comforting sleepiness in evening so hope to restore my sleep pattern.

But I also do oxidative cure (CDS 50ml / L in bicarbonate and salt water on empty stomach, gets reverted back to salt form not tasting bad, so some CISS cure).

And many plant based stuff. Herbs. Healing fungi. Leafs (waknuts help me greatly, fits to people with fungal / rogue yeast probs).

Replied By Prescriptions Kill (United States Of America, United States) on 08/31/2013

Just curious, but have you tried eating raw Ginger daily? Ginger is really good for arthritis and several other benefits. It is very spicy (more like a hot/cool sensation).

Replied By KT (Usa) on 09/01/2013

Turmeric is very good too.

Replied By Marina (Naples. Fl) on 01/17/2014

I am taking minocyclin antibiotic 100 mg. Monday, Wensday, Friday. After 4 months, my life changed complitely. Now I can do everything myself. It still hurts when I walk , but it is getting better with each passing day. Hope it will help to all of you who suffers with RA. Before I tried everything nothing helped. google Dr.Brown's protocol for RA. And read his work. It took me 4, 5 months to cure RA. I believe that RA is a bacterial decease, hence antibiotics works.

Replied By Prioris (Fl) on 01/18/2014

Trying a few antibiotics for chronic diseases can yield good results. My fms pain symptom started to disappear the second day on minocin. five different prescriptions of minocycline didn't work. Minocin completely stomped the fms out. I also believe any fms that includes inflammatory symptoms is an infection. fms is a murky disease category.

Curious, did you try borax and experimenting with removing dairy, gluten etc for your RA. It's good to know what didn't work for people.

Replied By KT (Usa) on 01/18/2014

I am mentioning this because over the last two decades plus I have learned that eating habits are hereditary. If one really examines what is being eaten and in what combination, I feel you may find how true this is. This has not been well accepted but it is my two cents!

Replied By Mysty (Southwestern Ontario, Canada) on 04/26/2021
I eat absolutely nothing like my parents.

I suppose people that go through life in an unconscious state might well mimic what their parents ate.

Replied By Elaine (British Columbia, Canada) on 10/30/2014

Prioris, I got excited about your minocin, then found out the one that worked for you and the one that didn't work for you, are the exact same drug, welcome to the placebo effect, it's the only thing that really heals anyway haha

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