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JJS (Walla Walla, Wa) on 07/24/2009
Second trip to the ER and an appointment with a urologist later it was determined by a ct scan that a 5mm stone was making its way down the left uteror. Was prescribed Flowmax and still had hydrocodone from the uti.
The hydrocodone did little to nothing for this pain, she was writhing and pacing our hall for relief, it was abundantly clear further doctors visits wouldn't yield anything but a pat on the head and a hope it will pass in time.
There had to be relief somewhere, found this site and the ingenious feedback for different tinctures and remedy's.
this being day 5 of this fiasco I am happy to report that taking 2oz lemon juice concentrate and 2 oz Extra Virgin Olive Oil with nose pinched has stopped her pain completely.
She did throw up the contents of her stomach... We tried coke, Heineken, watermelon, tonnes of water, but it ended up with her vomiting cause the pain wouldn't subside.
Just to be safe after throwing up I gave her an table spoon of lemon juice concentrate on her emptied stomach and since she kept that down for an hour loaded her into a hot bathtub and gave her a pain pill.
The pain pill relaxed her enough to sleep in the tub for awhile but... this was about hour three since taking the tincture and an hour after vomiting, the contents didn't look oily oddly enough it looks as if she absorbed enough of the lemon juice to do the magic as this morning shes utterly pain free... just tired.
Gave her a shot glass of the tincture (1 oz each) shes kept it down, which is easier today since theres no pain (duh) lol.
So far. So good. Hoping to see the stone very soon but the RELIEF she experienced this morning is the first relief in days and if your going crazy with this sort of pain do anything.. ANYTHING to take this and keep it down and get comfortable.
Bill (Staten Island, NY) on 03/16/2009
Dave (Dublin, IRELAND) on 11/23/2008
Larry (Munster, Indiana) on 09/29/2008
Due to the severe pain (and urine retention) they stuck a catheter up my 'wazoo' which wasnt a great feeling but not as bad as what I was experiencing in my bladder and ureter. I cant recall the E.R. people ever giving me anything for pain, but the catheder relieved some pressure. The really neat part was when they discovered my catheter wasnt big enough so they pulled it out a replaced it with a bigger one. After a ct scan and a lot of waiting this whole ordeal took about 6 hours, I was told I probably passed a kidney stone. I thought the wait was too long but compaired to other blogs I guess I recived super service.
My 17 year old son picked me up and we promptly went to a local all night drug store to fill a prescription of 20- vicodin 5/500 which I didnt know at the time, is a beginners dose. I took one pill that night and after 20 min. received relief. I had to wait a couple of days to pick up my ct scan report which indicated I am now the proud father of a 2mm calcium oxalate stone.
This was approx.a week ago. Since then I spend my nights reviewing information on the internet at sites like this one, and try to evaluate the best information I can. I rationalizied my final thoughts and course of action regarding my situation and also got some valuable encouragement from my wife. I wish to share my prospective and final evaluation in the hope that this may provide some success in your own situations... Why take the pain ? You must see a doctor or E.R. and get evaluated for pain medication. You will be glad you did and this is what will get you through you malady and keep your sanity (and your wife's as well). Review the home remedies on the internet and if the ingredients are natural they might be worth a try. I tried the coke/asparagas , I am still doing the lemon juice and olive oil. Also cranberry juice, apple cider vineger and of course lots of water. (also tried the jump and bump)
This will at least make you try something proactive as opposed to most doctors who just have you drink water and wait. These remedies take an unknown amount of time to work but at least you now have increased your odds of something working. The lemon juice and olive oil did provide me with relief and it still may break up my stone. Make sure you follow up with a visit to your Urologist. You've got to chart a final course of action.
I've never been one to take pain medication other than aspirin, but I am thankful for vicodin at this time. Hey if you need it you need it.
Julie (Abingdon, Maryland) on 07/10/2008
Richard (Boulder, CO) on 06/16/2008
Keep in mind that I'm 28 years old and in very good shape, exercising 24/7. So you can see my concern.
At first I thought I might have testicular cancer on the right ball, but everything feels fine, and I "sense" the pain originating from the right kidney area. The thigh is probably due to toxic or limited blood flow from/to that kidney. Thank heavens our bodies keep the toxins from our hearts and lungs until last, I guess.
I took creatine recently at the suggestion of a physical trainer, and I bet that is the source of the problem, since I can trace my pain to the time I started taking Betagen, first, and then some other creatine loader, pretty much every day. I got really sick, flu-like symptoms, and am just now getting over it. After reading all the other posts, I realized that every piss I was taking while on these supplements was cloudier and cloudier, so that's really why I'm pointing the finger for now.
After doing some quick research and finding this website and discussion, earlier this afternoon, I'm convinced I've got a stone and am trying the lemon juice and olive oil remedy as we speak. Here's the breakdown:
- Found out about miracle cure @ 2:30 pm, at work. Immediately drank 6 glasses of water.
- Went home on bike, (uncomfortable of course) and shopped for ingredients that I'd read about: lemon juice, olive oil, and magnesium, which I'll add to the routine if the little SOB doesn't come out.
- Took first dose at 4:00 pm, roughly. Dose was 3x3 oz lemon juice to olive oil. Drank like 4 glasses of water. Went down no problem.
- At 6:00 pm I drank a bigger dose, 5x5 oz lemon juice to olive oil, but cheated and lathered it up with toasted bread (like the other guy). Go big or go home. Followed with 3 glasses of water.
- It is 6:50 pm Mountain Time and I've got a full chicken in the oven, stuffed with couscous, garlic, and onion, and it's totally lathered in olive oil, which I'll down with a glass of lemon and water, so that everything is basically proportional, 1:1.
So, I'm in mid-recycling state I guess. I'll update tomorrow. I can say that I had a little weird sensation feeling in the kidney about 1/2 hour ago. Hurt and then tickled. Who knows, only time will tell.
Cyndi from NC: Thanks for the suggestion. I think my odds are pretty good, judging by the ratio of success stories to failures/surgeries. Probably around 70%, as long as my innards don't get so lubed up with excess olive oil that they slip outta me. :)
Kim (Chicago Area, IL) on 04/30/2008
Tina (Portland, Oregon) on 02/10/2008
CRAIG (TAMWORTH, UK) on 01/26/2008
relief from pain is a YA
disolving the stone is a MAYBE
Darren (Houston, Texas) on 09/22/2007
My conclusion was (1) my stones are not as near bad as others on this site, I can't even imagine what they are going through and my sympathy goes out to them and (2) this would not work for everyone since there are different stones, sizes and body chemistry. However, since my pain was still nagging at my Ureter since I've been back from the ER, I thought I'd give the Olive Oil and Lemon Juice drink a shot. I would have to say that it's not all that bad of a drink; it's almost like a lemon zest salad dressing, which by the way might not be a bad dressing the salads. You could kill 2 birds with one stone, have it as a dressing and get rid of your kidney stones. It was around 8:00 pm when I guzzled it down. About 30 minutes later I had a tuna fish sandwich with some iced tea and gram crackers. By 8:45 pm my pain had completely stopped! As some have reported about being nausea after drinking it, I didn't experience that. As I'm writing this its 9:08 am the next morning and I have urinated 3 times since and no stone. Also I have experienced ZERO pain, no nagging on the right side at all. So I am going to keep everyone updated with my progress over the next few days and weeks until the stone passes. I am not going to drink the salad dressing drink until I start to feel the pain coming back. I will though drink plenty of fluids until the stone passes.
My other task is to try and get the remaining stones in my kidneys resolved by following what "4/23/2006: Bertha from Phoenix " wrote about in her post- However, I am going to take on a daily basis 400 mg of Magnesium, 1 gm Calcium and (B-Complex 2 times daily). I believe this only works if you have calcium oxalate stones. I don't know if this would work on the other types of stones.
My History of Kidney Stones:
I had my first attack 1994 about 3:30 in the morning. Since I didn't know what it was I decided to go to the ER after 30 minutes of pain. Once I got the ER the pain had stopped. They kept me there and did CT scan and X-rays. That's when they discovered that I have kidney stones. After that I never had another attack until 2004, ten years later. I think I had about 3 attacks in 2004, went to the ER once again. Then another CT scan and x-rays, that's when they discovered both of my kidneys are filled will small stones, they were anywhere between 2mm - 4mm. I am still trying to get an estimate on exactly how many stones are actually in there. The stones that I have are calcium oxalate. They sent me to a nutritionist to explain about the foods to avoid. Which were nuts, berries, chocolate and etc...They also did every single test that you could imagine to see if my body was producing high levels of calcium oxalate. Which it wasn't, they had no idea of how I got them and told me that my body is not producing the levels of calcium oxalate that could form the stones. The only thing I can figure out was that it must have been something that I ate or drank a lot of or(lack of) in the past, maybe about 10 years ago or so. When I lived in Arizona back in 1994 for 6 years (now looking back at it) I can remember when I didn't drink that much water and I would take in high levels of workout supplements such as weight gainer and creatine for about 1 year. I am not sure if that had anything to do with it or not but I think something that I did in my past must have contributed to me forming the stones. I am 36 years old health male and eat fairly health foods (no junk foods). I don't over eat too much of one thing. Since 2nd episode in 2004 I started making sure I drink plenty of water. I have water at every meal and throughout the day. I would say I have about (4 -6) glasses of 8 oz of water a day. I know that isn't enough but I bump up my water intake when I start passing stones to 10 -12 glasses of 8oz water a day. Since 2004 drinking more water especially over the last 2 years my attacks are happening more frequent, so I am guessing the water is flushing out my stones. In 2006 I had 3 attacks as well and went back to the doctor again and they said that the stones were still there in both kidneys but had not grown at all in size at all. One thing that is really strange is that ALL of my attacks have been on the right side; I have never had an attack on the left side. I know the left side is due so I am hoping to find some good remedies. Thank God I have free medical benefits from the military or this would have cost me a fortune every time I went to the ER and doctor. The only way I could cope with the pain was to go the ER and have them give me Demerol. The doctors tell me that my stones are too small for surgery and that I will have to pass them.
The last CT scan as of September 21, 2007, found small stones still in both kidneys, 2mm-3mm. My task is to try and get the remaining stones in my kidneys resolved by following what "4/23/2006: Bertha from Phoenix " wrote about in her post- However, I am going to take on a daily basis 400 mg of Magnesium, 1 gm Calcium and (B-Complex 2 times daily). I believe this only works if you have calcium oxalate stones. I don't know if this would work on the other types of stones. I am hoping this well dissolve the stones since my kidneys are not forming them anymore.
Wish us all the best with our stones and remember "Try to Jump up and Down or may go for a jog the next time your passing a stone". Just make sure you do it in room where your neighbors don't see you.
