Question by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 10/12/2014
Replied by Delfina (Uae) on 10/13/2014
Replied by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 10/14/2014
Well...Ted raises a number of interesting points in reference to Silver's possible effect on the virus Ebola.
First, he states that the US Army has information on this and determined that nano silver produced in a specific way ... under refrigeration and at specific high voltage amounts and at limited ppm... can kill Ebola.
First; there are definite different kinds of Ebola. At least four and there have been over the past forty years at least four different outbreaks of Ebola which themselves differ.
My first question about the Army study is ... which Ebola did they study The most recent mutation THAT mutation, the one we now face lands in the respiratory system and the patient in coughing, releases the virus into the air; hence the labored attempt to dress the medical workers in air tight garb.
Second question; Ted says the Army (study ) has been declassified. I can't find it on an internet search or under Google scholar. Could Ted or anyone get to Earth Clinic that study.
Third; just to throw out "tidbits" about such a vital study without giving more details certainly raises a lot of questions. Such as, did the study analyze the typically made silver solution via the regular electrolysis method... eg silver rods in water and produced in minutes with 27 volts of current In Ted's article he differentiates between nano silver (more down to the size of atoms of silver and not in particles or as ions of silver). Did the Army actually test the latest emanation of Ebola using varying types of silver solutions And was the latest "respiratory" Ebola tested by the type of nano silver Ted described...or one of the previous manifestations
I REALLY want to see that study.
So PLEASE, could Ted or someone produce that "declassified" study.
If such a study is available to the public, then it should be somewhere in the public domain. Certainly Ted saw it somewhere.
We need access to the study PLEASE.
Time is of the essence as the danger of Ebola is growing.
The Army method used a refrigeration system in making the solution, says Ted in his post a few days ago... I presume to slow down the process. But it used HIGH voltage. Why did that not speed up the process
Lots of questions. But we have to know how they did it to know HOW to duplicate it.
Replied by Sue (St. Jospeh, Mi) on 10/14/2014
Replied by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, TN) on 10/14/2014
I am now reading Dr Frank Shallenberger's book, BURSTING WITH ENERGY. Wow, all have been searching, but he has found the test to tell you where your health is. All you smart people should read it. But I know the drones will just let the worker bees keep feeding them. That's deep and over most's heads.
I think I first challenged for this site to go after Ebola when it initially raised its ugly head. We now learn that the solution is not medical, but political, so EC will not be a factor regardless of the treatments this group comes up with. Maybe the preppers are smarter than we all first thought. Just get out of Dodge.
ATS=====OLE ROBERT HENRY====
Replied by Ellen (Usa) on 10/14/2014
Replied by Prioris (Fl, US) on 10/15/2014
Ebola media talk is just a PSYOPS for hidden agendas.
The regular Ebola is relatively harmless.
According to the World Health Organization, there have been about 1,200 deaths since the virus was identified in 1976 until their report in 2008. That works out to about 37.5 deaths per year.
Any SUPPOSED airborne Ebola would have came from the pentagon biowarfare labs. The Pentagon would know what the cure is. They have been dabbling with Ebola for a while.
On the other hand, the problem with any biowarfare agent is that the environment will minimize any impact. There are too many natural barriers that would impede it. Hence they have to artificially create any epidemic event out of thin air. It isn't the Ebola which is dangerous but the political ignorance of the general population who buy into countless lies.
Here is another link
Here is a link for more info on what ted is talking about
I have been looking for a more efficacious silver for microbes in general.
Replied by Justme (Israel) on 10/15/2014
I think the reference is to a 2009 presentation of research carried out by Janice Speshock and Saber Hussain at the US Air Force National Laboratory.
Part of this declassified info can be found in a presentation made by (non-objective) Rima E. Laibow, MD from nsfmarketplace.com Her presentation can be found here: http://drrimatruthreports.com/wp-content/uploads/Analysis-of-DTRA-Nano-Silver-Study.pdf
BTW, later, in 2010. Speshock and Hussain published research on the interaction of silver nanoparticles with Tacaribe virus (published in the Journal of Nanobiotechnology). This can be found here: http://www.jnanobiotechnology.com/content/8/1/19
I think Tacaribe virus shares antigens with ebola virus, though not sure. No time to check it out.
Replied by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 10/15/2014
The ebola is a virus and like all viruses have a weakness which we know to be nanosilver silver which has to be at least less then 100 nanometer for sure. Now to get nanometer even if they are larger than nanometers is the shape if they are triangular shape and prism shape then the size does not matter as the points of triangle or points of prism is always smaller then a nanometer!
Now to be pragmatic we can make colliodal silver of nanosize somewhat if we used higher voltage DC current by obtaining common common computer adapter such as computer adapter of 19 to 24 vDC and used distilled water we could do some nano size not all. Once colloidal silver is yellow it means it is close to that size. If we add H2O2 3% for several hours it will be clear indicating smaller size. And this may KILL ebola without the need for buying nanosilver as a result of FDA clampdown on supplies.
The other way that I found to kill ebola is peracetic acid that is not mentioned in internet although it is clearly used as as sterilizer for virus! The simple and safe formula is to prepare a vinegar and then add one capful or 15 cc of 3% H2O2 added. Allow it to react by stirring solution and you have an effective fever reducing very antiviral substance. It kills virus very fast usually in 5 minutes and get the fever down from any virus in 5 minutes generally from ANY virus including Ebola by applying on the skin one the chest, arms, neck and maybe forehead by transdermal absorption. You can also take internally by 1 capful or half a tablespoon mix in a cup or glass of water but the effect is slower but maybe longer lasting.
So even if there is clampdown with nanosilver or you have trouble making colliodal silver and then there is vinegar and hydrogen peroxide as the easiest. You can do combination such as colloidal silver mix with hydrogen psroxide and vinegar too should Ebola hits you. I think is another scare tricks by government same as 2009 virus we call Swine Flu virus which I posted the lysine every hour for 4 hour to prevent the outbreak. It didnt happen but at least we are prepared for Ebola outbreak should it happen. Vinegar dissolves virus and prevent viruses from attaching to healthy cells and your liver needs it to synthesize antibodies against the viruses.
There are plenty antiviral especially against Ebola but this the simplest I can to do that everyone can access it.
In case you think vinegar doesn't kill the Ebola viruses and I am pulling your legs there is a mention in Journal Clinical Microbiology 1984 September titled "Physicochemical inactivation of Lassa, Ebola, and Marburg viruses and effect on clinical laboratory analysis" and I quote "Dilution of blood in 3% acetic acid, diluent for leukocyte count, inactivated all of these viruses". Why peracetic acid, which is H2O2 and vinegar It is far more powerful then acetic acid in killing viruses when used in combination. I also found transdermal absorption can work even faster. White vinegar has to be used only with hydrogen peroxide. You cannot mix hydrogen peroxide with apple cider vinegar as it has organic compound and cannot have peracetic acid.
Replied by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 10/16/2014
"A peracetic acid is possilbe with equal mixes of a 3% H2O2 with a plain vinegar is possible also to be used as room aerosol or a weaker solution by diluting the entire solution with water twice more. For example if I have 125 cc of 3% H2O2, and 125 cc of vinegar, I will add 250 cc of water, to get a final solution to a weaker 1.5% H2O2 with a 2% acetic acid as regular distilled vinegar is 5% acetic acid. The distilled vinegar is non organic so the H2O2 won't reactive and neutralized as in apple cider vinegar. The peracetic acid can kill much more pathogens then either vinegar or hydrogen peroxide used individually. "
Points of particular note from the above:
* To help clarify what Ted is saying above, here is my simple take on combining the ingredients:
1 volume of 3% H202
1 volume of distilled vinegar
2 volumes of water.
* DON'T USE organic vinegar like ACV -- it wont work with ACV because this is organic vinegar with other natural ingredients in it that will act to neutralize the peracetic acid and make it useless. Use only ordinary pure distilled vinegar.
* To directly supplement peracetic acid, take half a tablespoon or one capful of the above peracetic mixture(with the water), add it to a glass of water and drink it.
* Ted has also made the point in other older posts that peracetic acid, when also used topically on the skin, can easily be absorbed directly into the blood to kill viruses and pathogens there. For topical use, the weaker, more dilute solution should be used. If after you put it on the skin it burns then just add more water to it.
* The peracetic mixture(the stronger 50-50 version, no water) should be used as an aerosol spray to disinfect your living areas.
* Ted also makes the interesting point that peracetic acid, hydrogen peroxide and colloidal silver can all be combined together and used like that.
Replied by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 10/16/2014
Ted gives other possible remedies also.
I note in his third paragraph he discusses the shape of the partical formation...and if triangular then the points of the triangles or prism shaped particles would be as small at the point as nanometer silver. This is a vital issue as it means that in fact normally created CS made by electrolysis might work. I have seen my own under high powered electron microscope and the particles are shaped as jagged pointed particles.
More on the study later. Thank you, Ted!
Replied by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 10/16/2014
The Ebola issue...and other viruses...
WHITE VINEGAR AND NOT ACV.....is used with the H2O2...to make the acid and is applied to absorb transdermally. It can be taken orally.
Replied by Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 10/16/2014
Thank you for sharing your insight on Ebola remedies. Could you say how much white vinegar is used for every 15 CC's (or 15 mg) of 3% hydrogen peroxide What are the proportions of the two ingredients Thank you for your time.
Replied by Immich (Nevada ) on 10/16/2014
Replied by 42n8nan (Huntington Beach, Ca) on 10/16/2014
Thank you for supplying the information about Nano Silver and peracetic acid to fight Ebola virus. To what amount of white vinegar should the 15cc's of H202 be added Should the H202 be food grade Again, I appreciate all your feedback.
Replied by Prioris (Fl, US) on 10/16/2014
Replied by Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 10/16/2014
Replied by Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 10/16/2014
Sorry, but does the 3% hydrogen peroxide have to be food grade or can you use the kind you can buy at the drug store at 3% I assume food grade if it will be ingested ( ) but is the 3% drug store variety OK to rub on the skin Thank you again.
Replied by Marti (Usa) on 10/17/2014
How much vinegar to hydrogen peroxide, what is the formula [In ounces, or tablespoons] also, should it be food grade hydrogen or drug store variety Please advise!! Thanks
Replied by 42n8nan (Hunt. Bch., Ca) on 10/17/2014
Thank you for the clarification and detailed mixing amounts. Also should we be using steam distilled water if we plan on consuming Additionally, if food grade hydrogen peroxide is needed what are the volumes used to dilute 35% to 3% Thank you in advance.
Replied by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 10/17/2014
Concerning Ebola, you must sensibly balance your fear of using stabilized hydrogen peroxide internally against being killed in about 5 days to a week by Ebola after symptoms onset. 3% HP(with stabilizers) is easily obtainable from chemists but you will probably have to wait for your food grade 35% HP because it might be difficult for you to find.
Where I live in the provinces, I would have to travel 274 kms to Manila to buy pure food grade HP. I only know one place that sells it in Manila. Whereas stabilized 3% HP is commonly sold at my local shops where I live and is easily obtainable. So I would simply use that HP form to make my peracetic acid if I suddenly contracted Ebola -- I wouldn't waste any precious time.
I've also found that food grade 35% HP goes off quite quickly because it does not have stabilizers. It tends to lose its strength due to oxidation by sunlight. So you must keep it in the fridge or freeze it to help maintain its strength.
Also remember that Bill Munroe used the ordinary stabilized 3% HP from the chemist as an internal spray for his lungs every day and for other things. He used stabilized 3% HP like this for decades and he actually recommended using stabilized 3% HP that way for lung problems. So using stabilized 3% HP internally certainly won't kill you but Ebola will. As I see it, it's all about urgency and speed of treatment if you are infected with Ebola.
If you want to use pure food grade 35% HP(no stabilizers) then you will either have to drive somewhere and buy it or, more likely, buy it off the internet in which case it will probably take a day or two to get to you. This wastes alot of precious time that you may not have if you suddenly discover that you have Ebola. And if you have Ebola -- you simply cannot waste that amount of time because it can kill so quickly. Up to you really.
You can use stabilized 3% HP for aerosol or topically for cuts, wounds and other skin problems. In fact that's the way you should use ordinary stabilized 3% HP -- that's what its for and that's why its sold in chemists-- to kill germs topically. I currently use the stabilized 1% HP form as a mouthwasth, ear/nose disinfectant and the stabilized 3% HP for cuts, skin problems etc. I've been using stabilized HP like this for over 8 years without any problems at all.
To make 3% HP from food grade 35% HP, mix it in this way:
1 volume 35% HP
11 volumes distilled water
Replied by Prioris (Fl, US) on 10/17/2014
Replied by Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 10/17/2014
Thank you once again for logical, practical advise. I am happy to hear that the 3% is fine to use. After reading that the food grade can be unstable, caustic on skin undiluted and there seems to be some skepticism about shipping it safely, I have been afraid to order it, especially since my chemistry skills are somewhat lacking at this point in my life. My children are coming to visit next week and I want to put the ingredients together for them and for our house here, just in case, which I hope is a remote possibility. (Seems like it could be used for any virus) I wanted to make sure what I was giving them is OK. Thank you for your explanation and reassurance, always thoughtful and helpful.
Replied by Sheree (Louisiana, US) on 10/19/2014
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