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Alecs (Canada) on 12/13/2019: 
alecs (Canada) on 12/13/2019:
I never seen a latest post from you , but i can tell it’s true all you have said about BHT, I want to thank you personally for sharing this treatment from my heart ..from positive anti HCV to negative anti HCV ,at first I don’t really believe that it can achieve negative anti body as medically inclined I know that’s is forever copy in the blood but I was wrong ..following your instruction I was surprised to test 3 times and it was non reactive , so I decided to share it and further study on this amazing supplement..
Fatchabrute (Az) on 11/17/2017:
I went to Gastroenterologist almost two years of being on BHT. The Doctor sent me for blood test then when the results came back said I was a perfect candidate for this new treatment which high criteria for admission as it cost $100,000.00 the results of that very first test said :
The quantitative range of the assay is 15 IU/mL to 100 million IU/mL using COBAS(R) TaqMan(R) HCV test, v 2.0. The limit of detection (LOD) and lower limit of quantification (LLOQ) for this assay is 15 IU/mL. Results less than the quantitative range of the assay will be reported as "HCV RNA detected, less than 15 IU/mL".
During the next 12 weeks the Doctor was evasive to the questions I asked about " what is undetectable:?I could never get a straight answer now going through all my other tests I find this on the very first test! :
HCV RT-PCR, Quant (Graph)
Hepatitis C Quantitation 761,240 IU/mL 03
HCV log10 5.882 log10 IU/mL
What that means is the Doctor used me because the very first test showed my viral load was 761,240 IU/mL 03
which actually meant I had no HEPC in the first place. It had already been cured with the BHT. I ultimately found out that under 800,000 IU/ml is UNdetectable.
The moral of my story is to know your numbers to what is cured. Many Gastroenterologist Doctors do not know the numbers of SVR ...Don't be fooled.
Joe (Ca) on 02/23/2017:
I just wanted to let you know I have had HEP C for about 20 years now and I think it was getting the better of me tell I found about BHT. Let me tell you I was sick my poo was yellow and so was my pee. My stomach hurt all the time and so did my right side. I could tell that I was not breathing very well.
So the first pill I took of BHT 250 mg I could tell that my breathing was better, After 3 days of taking the BHT 250 mg once in the morning with water only, I see improvements let me tell you about them. First off I see that my poo was the normal brown color and my pee was normal golden yellow. My poo was yellow and I always had the runs.
Sorry if it is to much info. My nausea has almost gone away it was bad. I'm still resting a lot to try and give my body the best chances of killing the hep c from my system. I had a type of rash all around my neck it was red and now it's almost gone. After 7 days of taking the BHT once in the morning I'm feeling better and I'm less depressed. Also I wanted to tell you about my skin it just feels softer, I think it's from all the antioxidant power of the BHT. Today after one week I do
feel a lot better. The nassau I would have to say is gone for the most part. I will keep you all posted on my results. I wanted to tell every one about how much I have improved but I have been so ill and I didn't fee like getting on my computer. Today was the first day I woke up and said to my self I want to tell every one about the BHT treatment. :) I almost feel like I'm going to live now thanks every one for posting your comments about BHT, All the reading helped me a lot and I plan on taking it for two years or more.
Davey D (Bc) on 11/28/2015: 
Thank you Oscar for all your hard work.
Davey D
Alex (Atlanta) on 11/08/2015:
Keep it simple and take it everyday. I am going to doc and will let you know what they said based on my history.
Alex (Atlanta) on 10/29/2015:
I started taking BHT to help with my hepatitis b on Oct 18, 2014. I had bad fatigue/joint pains/ and very dark urine. I was diagnosed with chronic hep b. I have been taking 500mg of bht that is 250 mg morning and evening everyday and didn't skip a day for exactly one year. Now it's oct 29/15. I did one liver flush to help my liver fight the virus (I avoided processed food). They did ultrasound and found that am healthy. They took my blood each six months, That's dec/14 , july/15 and oct/15. During the previous two tests I had hbv antigen reactive and negative antibodies but my last test this month changed to HBV antibodies reactive and hbv antigen non reactive. I don't have any symptoms that I had earlier like fatigue/joint pain e.t.c.
Does this test show am cured?
Lukey (Tennessee) on 10/07/2015:
3 weeks into Harvoni in Feb 2015 it was 97, then 4 weeks later I was undetectable.
(I wish I had my current VL when I began Harvoni.)
Several weeks post Harvoni, in late April 2015, I had a VL again that was 782,040. I relapsed. In 9/3/15 my VL had came down by over 33%. I had lost 322,668 points and my VL was down to 459,372. How do I think that may have happened? Maybe because I quit taking 400 IU of Vitamin E.
OK, my VL was tested again last week on 10/1/15 (after being on 175 mg of BHT daily for 2 weeks) and it's even lower now but not as low as I hoped. Its now 420,000. I lost 39,372 points in 4 weeks. I've been using oil of oregano and BHT every day. I take 175 mg of BHT a day, 1st thing in the morning. Was taking BHT by itself but have taken it with coconut oil and oregano oil the last few days. I'm trying to see which way makes it work the best for me.
Is this good news? A few days after going on BHT on 9/16/15, I felt really good one day. My moods seemed better than they've been in 25 years, but it didn't last. But I have a feeling it may return if I stay the course. My sleep seems better on BHT and I seem more together in some ways. I feel some fatigue, which I thought may have been due to "die off" of virus or some other lipid coated something or other. I felt some light liver stress the first week or so but that has gone away.
Lukey
Jos (Az) on 09/08/2015:
Thank you oscar I agree 100% I was going to do just that. Bht is a great thing.. the reason it didnt totally cure me, may be :I drank coffee, Glucossamine Chondrotin, MSM also Methadone . and tons of sweets, so this may be why Bht cut my VL by 2/3 and couldnt reach non detectable ?? FB
Jos (Az) on 09/06/2015:
By the way I do not consider the BHT as not working. It has certainly cut my viral load in 2/3. The Harvoni is the newst drug out for hep c.. I figured by your post you knew nothing of the drug because I slaughtered the spelling.
Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 09/06/2015:
This genital warts condition is very troubling for all who suffer with it and BHT is the ONLY thing I know of that has actually made the warts go away and not return. There are topical treatments that work as well as they do. But that is NOT at all the same as being free of these warts.
In my opinion based on your feedback and that of others: BHT can in at least some cases destroy the virus that causes these warts.
The same is true for some people who have hepatitis C. For reasons unknown to me the BHT treatment works very well for many but not all people. Keeping the treatment simple is what seems to work best.
Also, I agree with your doctor. Being " undetectable " in a blood test does NOT mean you are cured of hepatitis C or B. It only means the treatment is working by destroying the virons in your bloodstream. It is your liver that is infected with viral hepatitis. But if you can keep your blood free of intact hepatitis virons eventually a true cure can and will be achieved. This is because ALL liver cells are renewed about every 200 days. So if you prevent new liver cells from becoming infected a true cure can be achieved and has been by myself and others.
I have NO opinion on these harmoni pills. I know NOTHING about them.
But like I said: Keeping the BHT treatment simple seems to work best. So if you do NOT need these harmoni pills stop taking them and let us see if there is improvement or not....Oscar
Jos (Az) on 09/05/2015:
Better But With Side Effects
As far as the antibodies go, when you get a nondectable reading you still have the antibodies fighting the hep c in your liver and lymphatic system, is that right?. wouldn't a true cure be no antibodies? is it not true that no antibodies would mean there is no hepc for your body to creat antibodies to fight?.
I was told by a Doctor nondectable dose not mean the Lab finds no trace of of hep-c so what is the the designating factor for calling it "non Dectable"
In 2010 I tested 210000 H HCV RNA PCR quant....6.32h
in 2011 using bht as you prescribe my viral load went to 87830
last week I went on harmoni the dr had me tested before starting harmoni it was down to 761240
I had venerial warts very very bad for at least 40 years tried everything, podophlyn, freezing , lazer nothing worked except when I first went on bht after about 3 months they were gone! .
I have taken 13 harmin pills so far and the fatigue is almost gone I say almost but can not really tell because I also take Methadone.
In conclusion BHT has cut my VL load more then in half and the only symptom I have had in 3 years is fatigue.
Oscar do you recomend me taking BHT now along with harmoni, I was taking it up until I started Harmoni but then I stoped I feel like I should be taking it along with the Harmoni what do you think?
I know you are not a believer but I pray for you Oscar., or at least I think I read that somewhere in one of your posts.
Alan (Charleston, South Carolina) on 08/08/2015: 
Better But With Side Effects
I have been using BHT for about a year now as a treatment for my HCV. I am taking 750 mg a day on an empty stomach per Oscar's recommendations.
As I stated in previous posts, my viral load has been substantially reduced as a result of the BHT treatment and I am hoping for even better numbers (hoping for zero) when I get my viral load tested again in a couple of months.
HERE is my question to any and all who are using BHT for HVC. Is anyone experiencing problems with short term memory, focus or concentration? Before I found and started the BHT treatment, I had went through a doctor prescribed Interferon and Ribovirin treatment, which acted like poison to my body. It was horrible and I know it caused problems with memory, focus and concentration, but that was about two years ago. I am trying to determine if my current problems are a long term result of the Interferon and Ribovirin OR could be being caused as a side effect of the BHT. Does anyone else feel they may be experiencing these problems as a result of taking the BHT? Thank You.
Femi (Lagos, Nigeria) on 07/22/2015:
It's really crazy here in Nigeria and sometimes you are not properly taken care of when it get to medical issues, am actually on Liv.52 and I bought immance myself trying to be on a more safer side BUT my question is (is liv.52 killing Hep b virus) . I have read so many things about BHT and am interested in getting it as soon as possible. I haven't gone for my viral load test yet but I will like to know if I can take both liv.52 and BHT together. I would love to get rid of this, reading about other people improvement I will like to give it a try... Please advice. Thanks
Sarah (Israel) on 06/23/2015:
How are you?
I have some good news - My viral load continues to fall. In 3 month of using BHT my viral load decreased in 55.8%
Below are details of my blood tests and the results.
I got sick on February 2014.
27.4.2014
HBV QUANTITATIVE PCR
viral load: 8.0*10^2
10X10=100X8=800
20.10.2014
HBV QUANTITATIVE PCR
viral load:1.0*10^3
10X10X10=1000X1=1000
19.2.2015
HBV QUANTITATIVE PCR
viral load: 1.2*10^3
10X10X10=1000X1.2=1200
15.3.2015
I started taking BHT 500 mg per day
27.4.2015
HBV QUANTITATIVE PCR
viral load: 8.6*10^2
10X10=100X8.6=860
28.3% percent decrease in viral load
18.6.2015
HBV QUANTITATIVE PCR
5.3*10^2
10X10=100X5.3=530
38.3% percent decrease in viral load
55.8% A cumulative decline in three months
Thank you for everything!
Sarah
Sarah (Israel) on 05/04/2015:
I couldn't thank you enough for your research on BHT and for providing people, including me, with very useful information.
I was diagnosed with Chronic Hep B in February 2014.
My PCR test (viral load) result last February (2014) was 800 but on February 2015, after one year, the amount of the virus in my blood was up to 1,200.
I consumed one 250mg of BHT for one month and one week, with water on an empty stomach, twice a day which is 500 mg of BHT per day.
My viral load with BHT after one month and one week was 860 according to my test results from yesterday. That's 30 percent less than it was in my previous blood test two months ago.
I really hope that BHT treatment is working for me! I certainly intend to maintain BHT treatment with periodic blood tests.
I started with 250 mg per day for 3 days and then I raised the amount to 500 mg of BHT per day.
I weight 54 kg.
My liver function levels are all normal.
While consuming BHT I haven't experienced any side effects at all.
When I started my BHT treatment I stopped taking Milk Thistle, Colloidal silver, Turmeric, vitamin D3, Licorice root, Pukka - Vitalise, reishi shiitake maitake mushroom extract, probiotics, and Phyllanthus.
I am still taking Armour Thyroid 60 mg due to a low thyroid hormone levels.
Since Pukka - Vitalise helped me to feel better, do you think that I can consume this product with BHT? What about probiotics?
Does it matter from what company the BHT product is purchased? I ordered my BHT from Amazon - Wholesale Nutrition LLC.
Thank you again for everything you've done to help me and many others who are desperate to find a treatment for our disease.
(sorry for my English mistakes)
Sarah
Alan From Charleston (Sc, US) on 04/13/2015:
And, I got pretty good news today. I have continued with the BHT treatment that I described in my earlier post. Last check for viral load count was 2,028,000 middle of last December, 2014. I was just rechecked two weeks ago. My viral load is now 1,202,000. About 40% lower in 4 months!
I feel that we are making progress. I certainly intend to maintain this treatment with periodic blood tests to check progress on load reduction. Probably about every 6 months, because the tests are ridiculously expensive when I have my family doctor order them. And unfortunately my insurance company leaves a lot to be desired. Do you know of any less expensive sources for this test procedure?
Oscar, Thanks Again
Alan from Charleston, SC
Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/13/2015:
I read about their research in Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw`s book: "The Life Extension Companion ". Pearson and Shaw discuss the use of BHT to treat the different herpes viruses in that book. But they do advise people with liver disease to NOT use BHT.
But back in 1997 there was only the first of the interferon drugs available for treating hepatitis C. The results were poor at best as was explained to me by the VA doctor I was seeing.
So, after learning that hepatitis C was very much a lipid coated virus I figured: What have I got to lose given interferon`s poor tract record along with it`s many severe adverse effects ?
So I bought some BHT and began using it with amazingly good results....Oscar
Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/12/2015:
1. Yes, for you weighing 180 pounds, 250mg of BHT taken twice a day is the recommended dosage with water on an empty stomach. Do start with the one dose of 250mg of BHT for the first 3 days. If no adverse reactions are experience go to the 2 doses of 250mg of BHT per day with water on an empty stomach.
2. I never had any adverse effects using BHT at the dosages discussed.
3. I started feeling better in about one week. After being diagnosed with a failing liver from hepatitis C, ALL of my liver panel test results were NORMAL in one month except one that was close to normal.
4. I have discussed my background as a user of BHT to treat hepatitis C and B extensively here at the EARTH CLINIC. As far as I know I am the first person to try the BHT as a treatment for hepatitis C and B.
If you meant or mean: What educational degrees do I have ? I have a high school GED certificate. I am sorry if that disappoints you. I have studied chemistry, organic chemistry, molecular biology, and biology on my own with colledge level textbooks which is NOT at all the same or equal to having a formal education in those subjects....Oscar
Alan (Charleston, Sc) on 12/18/2014:
I took the Interferon, Ribovirin and Incevek (sp?)treatment in 2013 through my local gastro- specialist. It was the most horrible time of my life. I am 64 years old. I could barely eat anything or even drink water. I felt so bad I truly wanted to die. I only lasted about 10 weeks before I had to stop the treatment based on my low blood levels. I found the Earth-clinic website by chance and I read your posts about your experiences with BHT. I started my own BHT program back in July of this year (2014). I have been taking 250 mg. BHT three times a day. I weigh about 220 lbs. I take one capsule in the morning when I wake up on an empty stomach, skip breakfast, eat lunch, take another about 3:30 in the afternoon and the last one when I go to bed. I am having no bad side effects. The only other things I have been taking are naproxen sodium (Aleve), vitamin D3, and a Prilosec OTC. I take these separately from any BHT. My viral load back in 2013 was 4 million. In May of 2014 after the Interferon treatment, it was 2,262,000. After 5 months of BHT, my viral load is reduced to 2,028,000. So it has came DOWN 10 percent in 5 months. I feel good physically and I have a good energy level. My doctor is wanting me to check out some of the new very expensive treatments early in 2015. But I am hesitant to start a new "Big Pharma" program if I can beat this thing over the long haul with the BHT. In your understanding of how BHT works, is it reasonable to expect a continuing reduction in viral load if I keep up the treatment as I am taking it now? Thanks for any and all response.
Caryn (Illinois) on 09/20/2014:
Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 07/10/2014:
As far as weight gain goes the BHT if anything seems to reduce a person`s appetite. It is also a mild stimulant for most people. About the same as having a cup of coffee. I SAY keep the BHT treatment simple for best results. One or two capsules per day with water on an empty stomach taken with a gulp of water....Oscar
Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 06/12/2014:
It is important to keep this treatment simple. By that I mean to NOT mix it with other supplements. Many supplements make this treatment NOT work. BHT can and will combine with many other supplements by way of peptide bonds making the treatment NOT work. After many years of following the feedback provided the ONLY supplement I consider alright to take is a standard multivitamin and mineral supplement. And that is optional and NOT part of the treatment.
To effectively treat a viral infection the metabolites of BHT have to be small enough to penetrate those bi-layered lipid coatings. When BHT combines with large molecules including: vitamin B12, milk thistle extracts, and many other supplements the BHT metabolites are FAR too large to penetrate said lipid coatings. This makes it so the BHT treatment does NOT work.
Here is a link to a company that sells BHT in 250mg capsules. 500 capsules for 30 dollars. This company believes in BHT as do I and provides additional information for those interested here:
https://www.lifelinknet.com/siteResources/Products/BHT.asp
There have been a number of recent posters in this forum with questions about hepatitis B and C and BHT also. I hope my response or posting is helpful for you people....Oscar
Yureg (US) on 04/03/2014:
I was a member on the BHT group and apparently it was taken down. I just want to share the benefits of BHT for hepatitis B. I did get a successful treatment of tenofovir (zero VL) prescribed by the VA but when I did stop them due to renal nephrotoxicity side effects it came back. So far it's the simple treatment of BHT on an empty stomach that did it. I also quit drinking and start eating healthy food. I mean non-GMOs or processed foods. For meats grass-fed or non-antibiotic stuff. Organic vegetables for cooking and most of all juicing every morning. I know a lot of succesful stories from the BHT group due to simplicity and healthy eating. Maybe NIH should do some studies on these. Wish Rachel and Cathy can revive the old BHT group. Thanks again Leatherneck for you laborious research. Doc Jorge BLT3/5.
Yureg (US) on 04/01/2014:
9/12/2013
HBV IU/mL: 13400
HBV Copies/mL: 78000
08/20/2012
HBV IU/mL: 10,900
HBV Copies/mL: 63400
1/14/2014
HBV IU/mL: 60,200
HBV Copies/mL: 350,000
3/18/2014
HBV IU/mL: 836
HBV Copies/mL: 2.92
I was taking tenofovir but it was giving me the renal side effects and upon discovering this site, I notice Oscar BHT treatment. Thank you, Sir. It did worked. I started taking BHT along with chanca piedra and the supplements on November 23,2013 but my efgr was going down so I did stop the vitamins and then just vitamin D and B6 for every 2-3 weeks. Then gout flared up on January 2014 started taking opiates then viral load skyrocketed. I also stop taking the B-12. I started taking tart cherry extract along with my BP meds. I think it was the combo of 500 mg of chanca piedra at night and 250 mg of BHT every 2:00 or 3:00 am that did drop down the viral load. My liver enzyme was still elevated but it was decreasing. Thanks again Oscar.
Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 02/08/2014:
Here is the BHT treatment updated: 2-5-2014
The BHT treatment is BHT. The recommended dosages for the use of BHT to treat hepatitis C and B is: 100mg to 350mg of BHT taken with a gulp of water on an empty stomach once or twice a day. Most people in the 150 to 180 pound range do very well with one 250mg capsule of BHT taken twice a day = 500mg of BHT per day.
The less you weigh the less you need. The more you weigh the more you need. Also the fat content of that weight is a factor. People who are thin and have relatively lower fat content tend to have a harder time tolerating BHT. They are more prone to adverse side effects. And as people get beyond the age of 50 years old they tend to have a harder time tolerating BHT.
Additional information:
Supplements that have been shown to work well with the BHT treatment are:
1. A regular type multi-vitamin and mineral pill once a day.
2. A regular type vitamin B complex pill.once a day.
3. Vitamin C in a daily dosage of between 250mg and 1, 000mg per day.
4. The lipid monolaurin. Unsure about dosage.
Also, and importantly: Continue taking any doctor prescribed medicines or drugs. Very many of the people who have had dramatic improvement with this BHT treatment are taking a doctor prescribed medicine of one type or another.
SUPPLEMENTS TO AVOID. Do not take:
1. Milk Thistle and it`s extracts. Degrades the treatment to the point that it no longer works.
2. Grapefruit juice. Degrades the treatment to the point it no longer works.
3. Colloidal silver
4. Hydrogen peroxide taken internally. Hydrogen peroxide is a REACTIVE OXYGEN SPECIES. It will make the BHT treatment NOT work.
5. MMS [ Miracle Mineral Supplement ]. MMS is chlorine bleach, a very powerful oxidizer that will react with BHT in such a way as to make the treatment not work.
6. Vitamin E supplements. Yes you NEED some vitamin E. But a normal diet provides plenty. Vitamin E supplements have been shown to enhance lipid coated viruses ability to replicate and should be avoided for that reason.
7. Any and ALL herbs in theraputic dosages.
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For best result stick with those few supplements I listed that have been shown to work well with this treatment in the dosages suggested. Any and all supplements are at best optional....Oscar
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Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 12/28/2013:
"My blood test came in and I'm very excited.
January 2013 my Load counts were very high.
AST= 160
ALT= 155
Viral Load Count = 10 million
I have had HCV for 50 years and never really took it serious until I started feeling pain in my liver earlier this year. That's when I started getting worried and Found Oscars BHT protocol . I started the BHT about 3 weeks before getting a blood test done and I knew right away it was helping me because the pain I had went away about 3 days after starting. I had my blood drawn Dec 20 2013 and here is the results.
AST= 84
ALT= 120
Viral Load Count = 1 million
Wow!!! I was floored and excited. pretty dramatic for only doing BHT for 3 weeks.
But my Platelet count is low =78 but it's been low for at least a year that I know of. It should be 140 - 415. I will get my next test done in a few months and will post results. Thanks for finding this BHT Oscar.
Gene"
Important: Keep it simple: NO milk thistle, NO grapefruit juice. Just the few vitamins I have discussed.
Here is the BHT cures chat group for those interested: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/conversations/messages/3921
Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 12/23/2013:
Rosa from Brazil achieved NO VIRUS DETECTABLE in about 3 months of BHT treatment with NO other supplements and has stayed NO VIRUS DETECTED for about 4 months now.
Rosa takes one 250mg of BHT twice a day = 500mg of BHT per day. She had or has a HCV type 1b infection. She takes NO other supplements. I asked for and received Rosa`s permission to post her test results. Here they are:
RosaToday at 08:49 AM
Hello all.. My virus load test is out!!! On April2013 I Had 109.357 Ul/MlI started taking BHT at the end of JuneOn Sep2013 I was counted as INFERIOR to 12 ul/mlLets mention all my liver panels are normal now. If you need Oscar I'll repeat all my numbers here for reference. 3 months of BHT only! I owe it all to you. I will continue to take BHT for looonnnggg because it makes me look younger, fresher and gives me a boost of energy.
Rosa 1b
Update here:
Today Dec 23rd, 2013 as a Christmas gift I got my new results
ALT 17
AST 20
Gama 17
Alcaline Fosfat 49
Virus load undetected as you can see on the picture attached for the ones that have a difficulty in believing on BHT.
Although in Sep we know it also meant undetected, I keep taking my BHT twice a day and I feel very energetic. I want to mention that also my Cholesterol nbrs went down and I havent made any substancial changes on my diet, on the opositte, I think I was more concearned with what I was intaking before Sep scared to overload my liver.
I have only one word to say here. For the ones that are starting now, YOU CAN DO A CHANGE IN YOUR LIFE YES. and it only takes some months!
My friend that used Interferon and suffered a whole year, is not cleansing his body of the effects but he still suffers all teh changes that it did to his life. I almost feel ashamed that I got rid in such a easier way...
He will start with BHT now just to make sure it never comes back again,
I wish you all a Great holliday season, full of love and hope and many successfull stories in 2014.
Rachel im crossing my fingers for you and you are in my mind all day today!
Rosa
There have been many other BHT success stories. But I am increasingly convinced the simpler you keep the BHT treatment the better. Some moderate use of vitamins might be helpful. With the exception of vitamin E. Do NOT take vitamin E supplements because said supplements have been shown to enhance lipid coated viruses` ability to replicate. Yes you need some vitamin E but most people get plenty in the food they eat.
There is the BHT CURES CHAT GROUP here for those interested:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/info
BUT, please post your results here at the EARTH CLINIC where it does the most good. Merry Christmas, ...Oscar
