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Alan (Charleston, Sc) on 12/18/2014
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Oscar, please comment.

I took the Interferon, Ribovirin and Incevek (sp?)treatment in 2013 through my local gastro- specialist. It was the most horrible time of my life. I am 64 years old. I could barely eat anything or even drink water. I felt so bad I truly wanted to die. I only lasted about 10 weeks before I had to stop the treatment based on my low blood levels. I found the Earth-clinic website by chance and I read your posts about your experiences with BHT. I started my own BHT program back in July of this year (2014). I have been taking 250 mg. BHT three times a day. I weigh about 220 lbs. I take one capsule in the morning when I wake up on an empty stomach, skip breakfast, eat lunch, take another about 3:30 in the afternoon and the last one when I go to bed. I am having no bad side effects. The only other things I have been taking are naproxen sodium (Aleve), vitamin D3, and a Prilosec OTC. I take these separately from any BHT. My viral load back in 2013 was 4 million. In May of 2014 after the Interferon treatment, it was 2,262,000. After 5 months of BHT, my viral load is reduced to 2,028,000. So it has came DOWN 10 percent in 5 months. I feel good physically and I have a good energy level. My doctor is wanting me to check out some of the new very expensive treatments early in 2015. But I am hesitant to start a new "Big Pharma" program if I can beat this thing over the long haul with the BHT. In your understanding of how BHT works, is it reasonable to expect a continuing reduction in viral load if I keep up the treatment as I am taking it now? Thanks for any and all response.

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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 12/20/2014

Dear Alan from Charleston: From what you have stated, the BHT has at best got this hepatitis infection in check or not getting worse for now. I know from speaking with many the OLD interferon+ribaviron+whatever treatments did NOT work. BUT, the NEW treatments your doctor is discussing with you have a VERY impressive track record.

I am glad you are holding your own with the BHT and feeling better. But that could change for the worse. The NEW drugs are much more safe and effective than the old treatments.

I agree with your doctor. It is time to try the new drugs NOW available. As expensive as they are, they do have very impressive results. Can you get some help from Medicare or whatever as to paying for said treatments? As sick as you are I do hope so. You gave the BHT a sincere try with less than the desired results.

In my opinion it is time to give the NEW drugs a try. Your very life is at stake here. You would seem a good candidate for said NEW treatments. Your doctor should be aware of any and all assistance available as far as paying for said new treatments....Oscar

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Replied By Alan (Charleston, Sc) on 12/31/2014

In all fairness, just so I am clear about this. It was the Interferon/Ribovirin treatment that made me feel that bad. My liver was normal and I hadn't experienced any physical problems prior to diagnosis. I have an appointment with a new doctor through MUSC in Feb. 2015. I am continuing to take the BHT in the interim. I have new insurance and I don't know what they will cover at this time. I guess I will find out. Thanks for any and all support.
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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, Ny) on 01/01/2015

Dear Alan from Charleston, SC: I am not sure if I responded to you previously or not.

The BHT treatment as discussed by me HAS worked wonders for SOME but not ALL people. That treatment is: one or two 250mg capsules of BHT per day with a gulp of water on an empty stomach.

Also: Yes the " old interferon+ribaviron+whatever " treatments did NOT work well for many including you and can be very harmful also.

BUT there are these new drugs that just recently became available for hepatitis C. From what I have read they both work well and are fairly safe. So if you CAN get them I know of NO reason NOT to use them as prescribed by an MD.

They are expensive. The BHT treatment HAS worked wonders for myself and many others as discussed in this here forum. But not everyone as also discussed in this forum.

So there is always the BHT treatment available at a very low cost. Give it a try if you wish to. If the BHT treatment is working the way it is supposed to you should see dramatic improvement in no more than 2 or 3 months. For rapid responders the BHT treatment works in a month or less. Keep the treatment simple for best results. Avoid ALL supplements other than a standard multivitamin and mineral supplement and possibly some vitamin C at no more than 500mg of vitamin C per day....Oscar

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Replied By Jparkin48 (North Carolina) on 04/09/2015

Oscar, I completed the solvaldi/ribavirin protocol in Dec 2014. at that point I was free of hep c virus. This wk I had my 12 wk after treatment blood work and the hep c has returned. I am considering the bht treatment. I have hep c genotype 2 I have early stage cirrhosis, and elevated liver enzymes. is there any reason for me not to try the bht treatment? thanks, jparkin48
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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/10/2015

Dear Jparkin48 [ North Carolina ]. I know of NO reason for you NOT to give the BHT treatment a try. I have often discussed why achieving a NO VIRUS DETECTED result in those viral load count tests does NOT mean a cure has been achieved. Those are blood tests that do indicate the treatment being used is destroying the viral structures IN THE BLOODSTREAM ONLY. Said treatments including the BHT treatment do NOT uninfect a living infected liver cell. Said treatments, when working the way they are supposed to do keep the bloodstream free of said intact virons but have NO effect on infected liver cells.

But: Because EVERY liver cell is a NEW CELL every 300 days or so: If you can keep the blood free of intact virons NO NEW LIVER CELLS BECOME INFECTED. And a true cure is possible.

I always thought : The BHT treatment would be and is a great follow up treatment for the conventional treatments ALONG with being the PRIMARY treatment all by itself.

This usually takes at least 2 years of said BHT treatment: 250mg to 500mg of BHT per day with water on an empty stomach. Possibly more BHT if you weigh more than 200 pounds. If adverse effects are experienced LOWER THE DOSAGE of BHT used.

Thin and very lean people are those most likely to experience said adverse effects using BHT.

It is the ANTIBODIES TESTS that determines when a TRUE CURE has been achieved. When you test NEGATIVE with said antibodies test for the type of viral hepatitis you are infected with that means YOU ARE CURED.

As stated before by me: Many doctors seem unaware of this truly simple concept. If you still have hepatitis C and or B antibodies: You are still infected and likely to relapse....Oscar

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Replied By Jparkin48 (North Carolina) on 04/11/2015

Oscar, Thanks for your rapid response. I see my gastroenteologist one 4-30-15. If they don't have any other new meds available, I intend to try bht. I am 59 and weigh 180lbs. I assume 250mg twice a day would be the correct dose for me. I read the BHT information by Steve Fowkes, very informative. It states that thinning of the blood is a early side effect of bht and is brief in duration. Did you personally experience any side-effects? You stated that you have been cured of hep c. How long did it take you to start feeling better? I am exhausted frequently. If you don't mind is there any place I could read about your background and experience with bht? Thank you. jparkin----ps I will keep you posted regarding my case.
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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/12/2015

Dear Jparkin48 from NC, Ok, I will answer your questions as best I can.

1. Yes, for you weighing 180 pounds, 250mg of BHT taken twice a day is the recommended dosage with water on an empty stomach. Do start with the one dose of 250mg of BHT for the first 3 days. If no adverse reactions are experience go to the 2 doses of 250mg of BHT per day with water on an empty stomach.

2. I never had any adverse effects using BHT at the dosages discussed.

3. I started feeling better in about one week. After being diagnosed with a failing liver from hepatitis C, ALL of my liver panel test results were NORMAL in one month except one that was close to normal.

4. I have discussed my background as a user of BHT to treat hepatitis C and B extensively here at the EARTH CLINIC. As far as I know I am the first person to try the BHT as a treatment for hepatitis C and B.

If you meant or mean: What educational degrees do I have ? I have a high school GED certificate. I am sorry if that disappoints you. I have studied chemistry, organic chemistry, molecular biology, and biology on my own with colledge level textbooks which is NOT at all the same or equal to having a formal education in those subjects....Oscar

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Replied By Jparkin48 (North Carolina, US) on 04/12/2015

Thanks for the communication, not intersested in degrees, just results.. how did you come to try bht? did you know someone else who had used it? did it take a lot of trial and error to get it right? I am familiar with bht, but only as a preservative thanks for your help jparkin
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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/13/2015

Hello Jparkin48, The people who first discovered that BHT deactivates lipid coated viruses are: Snipes, Person, Keith, and Cupp. Their ground breaking research was first published in the journal Science volume 188, pages 64-66 in 1975. Titled " Butylated Hydroxytoluene Inactivates Lipid-containing Viruses ".

I read about their research in Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw`s book: "The Life Extension Companion ". Pearson and Shaw discuss the use of BHT to treat the different herpes viruses in that book. But they do advise people with liver disease to NOT use BHT.

But back in 1997 there was only the first of the interferon drugs available for treating hepatitis C. The results were poor at best as was explained to me by the VA doctor I was seeing.

So, after learning that hepatitis C was very much a lipid coated virus I figured: What have I got to lose given interferon`s poor tract record along with it`s many severe adverse effects ?

So I bought some BHT and began using it with amazingly good results....Oscar

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Replied By Mr. Ree (Usa) on 04/13/2015

Oscar, Don't shortchange yourself...There are many people through the ages that have accomplished many scientific achievements without a formal education...You chose to do deep research on BHT and it appears you have been successful...How many universities in the world teach about healing with BHT? Or even know about healing with BHT? Or would recommend it before drugs?
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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/13/2015

Dear Alan from Charleston, SC : One thing you are taking that might be screwing up the BHT treatment is " Prilosec " also know as " Omeprazole ". This drug or compound is known to interact with certain medications. So if you wish to keep working the BHT treatment STOP taking " Priosec " and let`s see if we can get the sort of results required to CURE hepatitis C.

There was some small improvement using BHT, but to achieve a cure that viral load count needs to come down rapidly.

I took a look at a model of the PRILOSEC molecule and it has three rings one of which hangs out there a good bit. This molecule may very well combine with the metabolites of BHT and the combined structure would be TOO large to penetrate those viral lipid coatings. This would make all such combined structures TOO LARGE to penetrate those viral lipid coatings.

So if possible stop taking " PRILOSEC " and let's see if we can get the BHT treatment working the way it is supposed to work....Oscar

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Replied By Alan From Charleston (Sc, US) on 04/13/2015

Oscar, I feel that I can speak for many others on this forum when I say "Thank You for all that You Do" helping offer options to those of us who are battling this nasty virus.

And, I got pretty good news today. I have continued with the BHT treatment that I described in my earlier post. Last check for viral load count was 2,028,000 middle of last December, 2014. I was just rechecked two weeks ago. My viral load is now 1,202,000. About 40% lower in 4 months!

I feel that we are making progress. I certainly intend to maintain this treatment with periodic blood tests to check progress on load reduction. Probably about every 6 months, because the tests are ridiculously expensive when I have my family doctor order them. And unfortunately my insurance company leaves a lot to be desired. Do you know of any less expensive sources for this test procedure?

Oscar, Thanks Again

Alan from Charleston, SC

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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/13/2015

Dear Mr. Ree, Thank you so very much for taking the time to post your very kind to me response. I do try very hard to make this treatment work for those interested in trying it.

I know I let some people down. I fail to pick up on what they are taking that is screwing the treatment up. That is why insist on keeping the treatment as simple as possible. I am not an encyclopedia of organic compounds. There are thousands of them.

I follow your postings with interest and know you try hard to help people. Take Care My Friend, ...Oscar

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Replied By Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 04/14/2015

Hi Alan,

I order my own blood tests through this site:

http://health.lifeextension.com/landingpages/blood.aspx?sourcecode=BTD501D&checked=1

No prescription needed.

There is a sale going on right now, but the regular prices still are better than the costs of my doctor and hospital. I also like the freedom to order what I want to see. I don't know if the tests you require are available, but I have had good luck with this for several years. The blood is drawn at a local Lab Corp, and they both email and mail me the results. I then forward that to my doctor and I am always prepared before I go in for my appointment. If you click on a specific test, it will tell you exactly what it will show. There is a membership fee, but it is still less than what I would pay for the tests otherwise. I've found it's best to call them and ask for the best price for membership, which is often lower than advertised. I hope you find this as useful as I have.

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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/15/2015

Dear Alan from Charleston SC, Well, it does seem some very real progress is occurring at long last with your BHT treatment.

Please save all your medical records in a file somewhere. I use those manila type folders and file them in chronological order keeping the latest reports in front. Sadly I lost my records at some point in time after many moves under duress. I think I have them somewhere with me but can no longer find them. Anyway these records are valuable to you and should be saved.

I am not sure what to make of your case history so to speak. It appears to me: That the BHT brought your infection under control at first, but without a substantial lowering of that viral load count. The infection was not getting worse and showed some small improvement. At the very least the infection was NOT raging out of control.

And that now, at long last, some very real improvement is occurring. Perhaps your body has finally healed itself from the damaging effects of that earlier treatment you discussed and is now able to make some very real improvement with the use of BHT. I surely do hope so.

Please do stop taking " Prilosec " if you can get by without it. I do think the prilosec was degrading the BHT treatment.

Anyway, this is very encouraging news. Also, as another responder reported the organization " The Life Extension Foundation " does offer blood tests at reduced prices if available in your area.

Take Care My Friend, ...Oscar

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Replied By Alan (Charleston, Sc) on 04/15/2015

Thanks Oscar for the encouragement and the concern regarding the Prilosec (omeprazole, 20mg). Do you know if one of the other acid reducers appears to be less of a compatibility problem with the BHT? Because I also have acid reflux and need something to help that. The Prilosec was doctor recommended. The Prilosec is categorized as a proton pump inhibitor. Another proton pump inhibitor is Prevacid, (Lansoprazole). I also might be able to get by with an H2 blocker such as Zantac (Ranitidine) or Pepcid (Famotidine). Any comments on these? Thanks again for your continued assistance. Alan
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Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 04/16/2015

Dear Alan from Charleston, I am NOT an MD or anything remotely equal to a medical doctor. From what you have stated you have a real need for the medication your doctor prescribed for you called " Prilosec ". I did look into the alternative medications you listed. They are all as large or larger than prilosec as a molecule.

On the upside: Your latest viral load count is much better than before. Close to half of the previous test results. Your latest test results put you close to what is generally accepted as in the LOW range of 1,000,000 or less on or in said viral load tests for hepatitis C.

So, in conclusion: Continue the BHT treatment just like you have been and take the doctor prescribed " Prilosec " as needed. You may wish to try and cut back on the prilosec somewhat. But if problems occur go back to the dosage as prescribed.

Are your liver function tests within the NORMAL ranges or not ? Because if they are you seem to be doing OK as is and making some very real progress as to that viral load count. The hepatitis C infection is not only in check, but very real progress is indicated.

I used to have a " BHT CURES GROUP ". And people such as you with other conditions being treated often did take longer for the BHT treatment to work for whatever that is worth.

And if needs be the new treatments as expensive as they are, are NOW available. I sincerely hope you can and are beating this hepatitis C infection with the BHT treatment....Oscar

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Replied By Alan (Charleston, South Carolina) on 08/08/2015

Question for all who are using BHT for as a cure for Hepatitis C.

I have been using BHT for about a year now as a treatment for my HCV. I am taking 750 mg a day on an empty stomach per Oscar's recommendations.

As I stated in previous posts, my viral load has been substantially reduced as a result of the BHT treatment and I am hoping for even better numbers (hoping for zero) when I get my viral load tested again in a couple of months.

HERE is my question to any and all who are using BHT for HVC. Is anyone experiencing problems with short term memory, focus or concentration? Before I found and started the BHT treatment, I had went through a doctor prescribed Interferon and Ribovirin treatment, which acted like poison to my body. It was horrible and I know it caused problems with memory, focus and concentration, but that was about two years ago. I am trying to determine if my current problems are a long term result of the Interferon and Ribovirin OR could be being caused as a side effect of the BHT. Does anyone else feel they may be experiencing these problems as a result of taking the BHT? Thank You.

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Replied By Timh (Ky) on 08/09/2015

A:

BHT, to my knowledge is like a semi-synthetic antioxidant and is therefore relatively free of severe and harmful side effects. I have been using BHT almost daily for 3yrs for chronic active viral hep with all good results and no bad side effects whatsoever to note.

As for the pharm antivirals, there appears to be many bad side effects as you have noted. For more info go here http://www.drugs.com/ribasphere.html

As for memory & concentration, here is a list of natural herbs and nutrients that will help.

  • Gingko Biloba
  • Acetyle L Carnitine
  • Taurine
  • Vinpocitine
  • Choline/Lecithin
  • Omega 3 fatty Acids like Fish, Krill, and Flax Oil
  • Fat Soluble antioxidants Selenium/Vit-E/CoQ10 (all support and protect the Omega 3's)

Timh

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