Tony (Tn, Usa) on 02/08/2014
I have multiple health areas of concern including HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus) for almost 20 years now. I've never tried to treat the herpes on a consistent basis. In other words, I've not taken anything regularly for this condition through the years. I've NEVER taken any prescription meds for it. The only things I've used to treat it have been L-Lysine and Oil of Oregano.
I know there has been viral replication through the years in my body. I now have Hashimito's Thyrioditis along with candida overgrowth and who knows what other conditions not diagnosed. I did go through an extensive treatment for a 2 month period to try and kill the herpes virus but didn't work because I still get outbreaks. I used Oil of Oregano in high doses and L-Lysine in low doses during this timeframe.
In your opinion, would BHT be an option in trying to get the herpes simplex virus under control? I figure that if BHT works for hepatitis then why wouldn't it work with HSV since it's also a virus. I also have fatty liver disease(non alcoholic type) as well. I'm taking most of the anti-candida remedies suggested by Bill. I'm not on the iodine and a few others but take several of the remedies.
What would you suggest as the best route to go here? Should I continue with the anti-candida protocol before trying to kill the HSV? That's even if BHT will work for HSV. I do notice that I couldn't take any other supplements(other than yours listed) per your recommendations if using the BHT. I would have to stop a lot of anti-candida remedies in order to do this. Please let me know! Thanks and God Bless!
Replied By Prioris (Fl) on 02/08/2014
Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 02/09/2014
You will find different opinions on how best to use BHT to treat herpes viruses. The take the BHT with a gulp of water method on an empty stomach method worked very well for me in the relatively small dosages I discuss.
Here are some others who have had very good results using this method:
- I know that it must be frustrating for those of you that post regularly to know there are many who read but who don't contribute. If you can find a way to keep my anonymous, feel free to post my experience. If you have questions that I can answer that may be helpful for others, I am happy to answer them.
Thanks to you and Cathy and Oscar especially...it makes a difference even when you don't know it! Kara
Tony, I very much recommend keeping the treatment simple. By that I mean to NOT be mixing it with any other treatments including herbal treatments....Oscar
Replied By Tony (Tn, Usa) on 02/09/2014
I'm not taking Coconut Oil at this time. I have in the past per the anti-candida protocol from Bill. I used it for at least 3-4 months straight at different times over the past 2+ years. I can handle the EVCO pretty well in smaller doses(1tsp.-1tbsp. daily). When I go up to the 2 tbsp. dose then I do get pretty bad nausea.
I always take it with food just after meals. It's been a few months now since I was taken EVCO regularly. To be honest, I've tried so many things in the past 2+ years to try and get better but seem to have very limited results. I'm still holding onto faith that God will lead me to the right cure or treatment plan to finally get my life back. Thanks & God Bless!
Replied By Tony (Tn, Usa) on 02/09/2014
I do have further questions for ya. I have multiple health issues involved here like I stated in the previous reply. Bill is helping me with the candida issues from his protocol. I'm having trouble trying to figure out how I should proceed with treatment options. I don't have just 1 area of concern like HSV. I have way more than that to deal with.
Here are the questions I'm asking myself:
Do I stop the candida protocol and go strictly to this BHT treatment plan for HSV and whatever other unknown viruses I might have?
Or, do I just continue with the candida protocol from Bill and wait in treating the HSV?
Bill has stated to me many times if I can get rid of the candida all of my other health issues will probably go away. This happened for him but doesn't mean it will happen for me. I just make small steps in progress from candida protocol. I can't take the iodine because I have such a bad reaction to it. I've come to the conclusion this is because I also have very bad adrenal issues. If we have adrenal fatigue, insufficiency, etc. then iodine can cause more problems.
The candida protocol calls for the use of herbs and quite a few other supplements not needed in your BHT treatment plan. I'm just torn as what to do now. I know I have viral overload in my body but I also know that I have candida overgrowth as well. Do you have any suggestions in how to proceed? Thanks again for your time & God Bless!
Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 02/09/2014
Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 02/09/2014
If you wish to give the BHT treatment a try use it as described. If it works you should see positive results in few months. For many the results are a dramatic improvement in 3 months or less. For some as little as one month.
So, if you choose to try the BHT use it as recommended. If it works you will know within said 3 months....Oscar
Replied By Tony (Tn, Usa) on 02/09/2014
My doctors tell me that there's not a thing wrong with me other than depression/anxiety. Yeah right! I've had to diagnose myself basically Oscar. I know that I have a systemic candida infection. I've had a white coated tongue for years now. It's gotten some better but still a light coated tongue. All the doctors tell me it's normal to have a white coated tongue at my age! It's ridiculous!
I had kidney failure back in 2012. The doctors still say they have no clue as to why my kidneys failed. I think I know why more than they do. I have multiple organs/body systems affected. I've been given multiple courses of anti-biotics and anti-fungals which done nothing. That was almost 2 years ago.
They tell me that HSV doesn't have a single thing to do with my health issues. That's another yeah right! They say that I don't have fungal issues. Then, why was I prescribed anti-fungals? I've stopped going to the doctors. I did see a local homeopathic doctor for 4 months back last year. That didn't help me either. Only left us $3, 000 short in savings.
I still continue my pursuit of finding that answer. God has a plan and my faith will keep me going. God will lead me to the right thing. I love this site and I expect some sort of breakthrough coming from this site.
You say to try the BHT treatment alongside the candida protocol but you also say not to take herbs with BHT which are a part of the candida protocol. I take milk thistle, ALA, & other rotating herbs for candida, etc. Let me know what you think! God Bless!
Replied By January Jefferson (Canada) on 02/08/2014
Replied By Mike62 (Denver) on 02/10/2014
Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 02/10/2014
Tony, since the other treatment has not worked as well as hoped for why not give the BHT treatment at least a short trial. If your condition gets worse go back to this other treatment. Try the BHT as I recommend without those other supplements. Now BHT is a very effective treatment for herpes virus in all it`s variants. BHT can also enhance a person`s immune system by readily deactivating free radicals and reactive oxygen species. It may just be enough to get this candida infection under control.
Evidently I am also a candida carrier and did not even know it. I saw a picture of a person`s tongue with that white coating and was struck by how much it looked like my tongue when I was very sick with hepatitis C. I also developed an active case of TB while sick with hepatitis C. So who knows: It is possible the BHT treatment may turn the corner for you with this candida infection as well. It should surely help a lot with the herpes virus.
A short trial period seems worth a try. I recommend starting out with no more than 250mg of BHT per day with water on an empty stomach. From there ramp up to two doses of 250mg of BHT per day=500mg of BHT per day. That is the treatment. A daily standard multivitamin and mineral supplement is OK. Same for 250mg to 500mg of vitamin C. A standard vitamin B-complex is OK to use. The vitamins are optional and NOT required as part of the BHT treatment.
Also eat an adequate diet. Drink plenty of distilled water. Cook any and all foods adequately to prevent the dangerous new strains of E.Coli that have become a serious problem few people are aware of. Just this month there were two huge recalls of contaminated meat. I do mean in the last 10 days. Eat NO ground meat of any type. That does include beef, poultry. pork, and fish. Cook all meats and vegetables. I cured myself of what I thought was a chronic case of diarhea by doing as I just instructed in the last week. Lets give this a try and see how you do. I am also available at THE BHT CURES CHAT GROUP here:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/info
Let`s give the BHT a try and see what happens. You can buy BHT in 250mg capsules here:
http://www.lifelinknet.com/siteResources/Products/BHT.asp
Wish you well and to get and stay well, ...Oscar
Replied By Tony (Tn, Usa) on 02/10/2014
How do you come to the conclusion that BHT would help get the candida infection under control? The white coating on my tongue has gradually gotten better. I've used both tea tree oil and turpentine to get that stuff of from my tongue. However, it doesn't do any good if I have fungal issues from the digestive system. The tongue provides good evidence about your digestive health.
I'll just start out low in BHT dosage as you suggested. I'll take 250 mg daily on empty stomach and then increase to 500 mg daily thereafter. I'll probably just avoid a multi-vitamin for now. I'm getting plenty of vitamins and nutrients from food including a green drink every single day.
You say to stay away from meats but after that you say to be sure and cook all meats and veggies. I've been eating only raw salads. I wash all of my veggies and fruits in an organic wash liquid. Also, I normally only buy organic produce anyhow. I only eat organic meats as well.
I eat them in small amounts though because Bill lists this from the candida protocol. His protocol calls for only small amounts of meat and only white meat. Can I have any meats or not? I do like my organic turkey and chicken along with wild caught fish. I do have an occasional serving of organic grass-fed beef.
I get all of my supplements online from 1 source only. They do have a product called "Life Enhancement Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw's BHT Plus". It's the only BHT supplement they have available though. Seems to have good reviews from the site. It contains 180 mg BHT plus 80 mg vitamin C in the form of ascorbyl palmitate for fat solubility. Would this be OK?
Thanks again for your time and have a great day! God Bless you as well!
Replied By Bill (San Fenando, Philippines) on 02/11/2014
http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item17137/BHT-Butylated-Hydroxytoluene.html
Replied By Tony (Tn, Usa) on 02/12/2014
Hopefully, after a few weeks I can see some improvements with the viral part of my disease/sickness. I'm also going to purchase a Terminator zapper and see what that device can do. I'm still searching and with faith I will get through this awful health crisis.
I'm really tired of taking soooooooooo many supplements. Been doing this for over 2 years now. They just don't seem to work for me no matter what brand/type but I know they're better and safer than drugs for sure. I'm putting a lot of confidence in the zapper I'll be purchasing. Timh on these boards says they've helped him tremendously. Anyhow, thanks for the link to the BHT. I'll get one bottle and see what happens when using it with the zapper. Thanks again Bill and God Bless!
Replied By Lana (Raleigh Nc) on 03/14/2014
This is my 2nd year taking BHT and last year the results were lower. This week my blood work was as follows:
AST: 54 last year 32
ALT: 69 last 54
Viral Load 22 million last year 7 million
I am genotype 3 and have been taking 2 350 miligram capsules, the last 2 days I doubled the amount, last night I couldn't get to sleep so today I am taking 3 350 miligram capsules. Also, I have taken R-lipoic acid 2 times a day 350 mil each cap, also fish oil capsule. I drink a large coffee with 5 creams each morning half is decaffinated and was told coffee increases viral load. Any comments or suggestions welcomed and thanks for the hope. Lana
Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 03/14/2014
In fact at this point because of the feedback available: I, we are suggesting using ONLY BHT with an occasional multivitamin and mineral supplement. I never recommended fish oil or the other supplements you mentioned. Are you taking the BHT with water only on an empty stomach or not? If you are taking BHT at the same time as you are the fish oil or anything else you will make the treatment NOT work.
Also, IF your viral load has gone up to 22 million it is time you look into the NEW hepatitis C treatments becoming available this year [ 2014 ]. Please be clear about what you are saying. I try very hard to be very clear about what I am saying. If your viral load count actually went down I see some hope for the BHT working. But you need to keep this treatment simple and NOT mix it with other supplements.
And, you are taking TOO much BHT. 700mg of BHT per day is the upper limit as to what I consider safe. Here is a link to our group:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/info
Look, The BHT treatment does NOT work well with many supplements. Join the above group if you wish to. That way I can stay in close contact with you. If your viral load count went down instead of up: With some supervision we can get this treatment to work. If your numbers went up to 22 million it is time to look into the new treatments becoming available this year....Oscar
Replied By Lana (Raleigh) on 03/15/2014
Yes my viral load went up from 7 million to 22 million, it was 7 million last year.
I read steven fowkes book about herpes and bht and the amounts he recommended were higher 1000mg for persons weighing 110. and I weigh 140.00 and am 5 ' 3 " the treatment also had a lot to do with persons that were in menopause?
I always took the bht by itself, and did take R-lipoic Acid 700 mgs a day, with fish oil and an occasional bcomplex. You were saying not to take b12, I never said I did.
What is the new treatment and what do you know about it, where might I find out about it. Thank you, Lana
Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 03/15/2014
It is time for you to get on a treatment that really works. If the BHT without R-lipoic acid and or fish oil works that would be great. But you need to find out. And those viral load tests are the only way to find out. I did mention some new treatments were due to become available this year [ 2014 ].
Here are some websites that discuss these new treatments:
Short extract from above link:
"This has made me change the way I'm talking with patients. These regimens are essentially going to cure everybody, " said Muir, who has conducted related research but did not participate in these studies. "I had a patient in my office this morning who said, 'If I get cured, ' and I said to him, 'When you get cured, '" Muir added.
"I think the great thing about these new direct-acting antivirals is that with the right combinations of drugs, all patients appear to be cured, " said Muir.
Here is another link:
I would think you would be a prime candidate for said treatments because even though your viral load is high your liver function test results are NOT that bad. You are close to normal in that regard. But it is time for you to get on a treatment that works for you Lana. In the meantime STOP taking LIPOIC ACID and lower your dosage of BHT to NO more than 700mg of BHT per day. More is NOT better. Fowkes` book is mostly about treating herpes viruses.
Who knows, you may get lucky with the BHT WITHOUT R-Lipoic acid. They will test you before starting these treatments so if you do not show a dramatic decrease in that viral load it is time to get on a treatment that works for you. I want to see you get well....Oscar
Replied By Lana (Raleigh) on 03/17/2014
Thanks again, I stopped the r-lipoic acid and the other vitamins and will see what happens. Also the ast was 36 this year not 54 my mistake. I will check out the treatment site but hope the bht will work by itself. Thanks and I will keep you posted. Lana
Replied By Femi (Lagos, Nigeria) on 07/22/2015
It's really crazy here in Nigeria and sometimes you are not properly taken care of when it get to medical issues, am actually on Liv.52 and I bought immance myself trying to be on a more safer side BUT my question is (is liv.52 killing Hep b virus) . I have read so many things about BHT and am interested in getting it as soon as possible. I haven't gone for my viral load test yet but I will like to know if I can take both liv.52 and BHT together. I would love to get rid of this, reading about other people improvement I will like to give it a try... Please advice. Thanks
Replied By Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 07/25/2015
Of course you wish to NOT be infected with hepatitis B. There is the BHT treatment that seems to work for some people infected with hepatitis B. You asked about " liv 52 ". I can NOT find a link that gives anything other than a very vague or unclear description of what " liv 52 " is. For that reason I have NO opinion on how well it works or if it will work well with the BHT treatment.
Also, because I have NO idea what liv 52 is: I do suggest NOT taking it when or if you ever start the BHT treatment.
The BHT treatment is NO more than 250mg of BHT per day with water on an empty stomach as a starting dosage. It could be less. You have to try it and find out if you can tolerate the BHT or not. If you weigh less than 125 pounds it very well could be a smaller dosage of BHT. This dosage issue is something only you can determine. I can not do it for you. I can only provide the rough guidelines I have. For people who weigh between 150 pounds and 200 pounds the two doses of 250mg of BHT with water on an empty stomach is what seems to work best = 500mg of BHT per day as a treatment for hepatitis B and C. If any adverse effects occur ALWAYS lower the dosage used or stop using BHT.
I do NOT know of a totally safe treatment for hepatitis B. If you are not suffering any sign of liver failure you might be better off just living with it. There is also the " monolaurin treatment" that is reported to be effective against many viruses. Monolaurin is a component of human mother milk and for that reason might be safer.
In conclusion: The BHT works well for some people. Seems to actually cure the infection with some people if used with care....Oscar