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Urgent Help Needed for Constipated Great Pyrenees Who Has Lost 10 Pounds

Posted By Wood Butcher (Salmon, Id) on 11/21/2017

Our 4yr Great Pyrenees is constipated. This morning is the 7th day. She is not showing any signs of constipation, ie. discomfort, lethargy, loss of appetite, swelling /bloating and she is not squatting or scooting. Repeated trips to the vet- x-ray, ultrasound show nothing but some feces and gas (and a very full bladder). This started with an infection where it hurt her to urinate. She had an extreme reaction to tribrissen she was perscribed. As I wiped some drool, the black layer of her lower lip came off on the towel, further, the inside of her mouth was delaminating. The vet had never seen the like. Instantly stopped the antibiotic and began salving the inside of her mouth with coconut oil. There was a huge improvement overnight. She has not lost her appetite so I can't understand where the food has gone. Her blood work all was normal. Last night our vet re-expressed her anal gland and felt soft normal feces just inside her. Not hard or dry or blocked. We are at a loss. This foggy, predawn morning, I had her straddle my knee while I patted her side so long that I had to go! She expressed only a little gas. For 6 days I've been giving her 20-40ml of electrolytes every daylight hour and D-mannose(1000mg xday) for 3 days. She last urinated 2 nights ago and by the sounds she made razor blades were coming out.

I've never needed to post to EC before but I thank God for all of you. Dierdre, Ted, Bill, Dave, Mama and Theresa and ORHeny! God bless you all and thank you for any help you may have for Rosie.

Replied by Mama To Many (Tn) on 11/21/2017

Dear Wood Butcher,

I am so sorry about your dear Pyrenees. (I have a Pyrenees, too!)

Are you with her whenever she is outside? (Wondering if she or another dog in the family is eating the evidence?)

I am actually more concerned about not emptying the bladder.

Also, the distressing side effect to the mucous membranes of the mouth - wondering if it could have messed up something within the gut as well? Have you tried coconut oil internally? Also slippery elm is good for constipation and for healing mucous membranes. If you get a powder and mix it with water you can mix it with food. I would give a Pyrenees as much as a teaspoon of slippery elm, if she will take it. Mix it with water though so it doesn't draw water out of her body. This may help with the bladder as well.

Pumpkin is also gentle and good for constipation. A tablespoon maybe?

Have you tried apple cider vinegar for the bladder? If you can't get her to take it, you could try the paw method in the video on this page: https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/bladder-infection-dogs.html

Could you massage castor oil onto her belly? Massage and oil may help get things moving and would actually be helpful to the bladder, too. (Unless massage in the abdomen hurts her.)

Keep us posted - I hope Rosie feels better soon!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Theresa

(Mpls., Mn) on 11/21/2017

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Hey Wood Butcher,

I wonder if Rosie has learned that it hurts like the Dickens to pee/poo, so she is doing her best to NOT pee or poo. That is my first thought - she has an aversion to eliminating because it is just so painful. I also wonder if the antibiotic knocked out all the good bacteria in her GI tract - it would not hurt to dose yogurt, or drug store Digestive Advantage, or ideally PB8 or DDS w/FOS from the health food store refrigerated section. If you build the good bacteria back up things often start moving as they should. I ditto the advice from MTM to try ACV, and you might also consider colloidal silver. What diet are you feeding?

Thanks!

Replied by Wood Butcher (Salmon, Id) on 11/22/2017

Thanks very much MtM, Rosie, who's the only dog, saw a new vet who gave her IV fluids and she urinated twice yesterday. Her fever had already broke. Hope she's on the mend. We have been giving pumpkin for 5 days but we're out of slippery elm and honestly didn't think of it- we used Essiac Tea for a sarcoma on our old Pyr some years back. I had just given ACV yesterday morning but she showed 7-8 alkalinity at the vet. You are most likely right that the mouth issues went right through, and I believe the coconut oil (1 tbl xday) was the remedy. I forgot to mention she had charcoal caps for 2 days (1000x1) after she reacted- at least it helped with her gas. (The x-ray showed gas) I see Theresa above, has suggested colloidal silver- I'm going to respond to her, but first I want you and all EC contributors to know that there are people like me who have not stepped up to say so, but are truly thankful for your insight/experience/enlightenment. Please keep up the good work. You are needed!

Don't ever stop.

Replied by Wood Butcher (Salmon, Id) on 11/22/2017

Thank you Theresa, I think you're spot on. It hurts to go. She has taken Greek Yogurt for about 3 days. And I should have mentioned that she had a dose of colloidal silver the evening before her mouth went South. I know it couldn't be the silver, but I had to stop just in case. Both vets said to go back on it. I know she may have whooped the infection by now with the colloidal- but I couldn't chance it without knowing for sure. Now we know that those sulfur infused drugs have caused many reactions before.

Her diet is better than mine (not saying much) premium no-grain and no people food except meat occasionally as a treat.

And to you personally- please keep doing what you're doing. It is so needed until the pill pushers lose the strangle hold they have on medicine/health. Must be a lot of people you'll never hear from who need EC and all it's contributors desperately. I thank God for all of you.

Replied by Wood Butcher (Salmon, Id) on 11/25/2017

A hard row to hoe, but Rosie finally broke loose! She urinated without pain yesterday and again today and finally moved her bowels. The colloidal silver gets most of the credit (and Greek yogurt and pumpkin) We kept her hydrated with a syringe until last night when Sweet Rosie drank voluntarily for 46 seconds straight. The only discomfort she showed was after urinating.. then she was uncomfortable for 10 min. Strange she went so many days without a BM and never lost her appetite or was nauseous. This may go down as an unsolved mystery. She was never away from my side so there is no mistake about her routine.

Again, thank you EarthClinic!

Replied by Mama To Many (Tn) on 11/28/2017

Dear Wood Butcher,

Thanks so much for reporting back. I am sure this information will help others in the future. I am so glad Rosie is better! Great job taking care of her and getting her back to health!

~Mama to Many~

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