Seeking Dosage of ACV or Cranberries for UTI in Puppy

Posted By Jill (Chilterns Uk) on 01/21/2016

I have a 16 week old male springer spaniel who has been peeing so much, its a full time job clearing up. He is also drinking what seems a lot of water for a puppy, ( my previous dogs never had this problem so it's a new area for me). The vet saidthere is evidence of a UTI but no blood in urine or obvious discomfort, just dilute urine which may be because he drinks so much. She put him in a course of antibiotics which did help, but he's still peeing a lot more frequently than I think is normal, Ie every 15-30 minutes except when he's asleep. He has been peeing in His bed at night too and has onlyhad one dry night in 6 weeks. He's otherwise healthy and putting on weight. The vet doesn't know if it is an infection, or a possible issue with his kidneys or just a habit of drinking a lot leading to dilute urine. She is promoting a whole spread of more tests, starting with bloods and leading to scans etc, at some cost, which could all just say it's normal. I therefore don't have a lot of confidence that any of this is necessary. I don't want to start another course of antibiotics at this young age so am wondering about a natural approach, having read about the success of apple cider vinegar and cranberries for UTIs. I'm wondering which would be the most suitable to try and in what dosage. The pup is currently 6.5kg.
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Replied by TheresaDonate (Mpls., Mn) on 01/21/2016

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Hello Jill,

Your gut is telling you something isn't right and I agree: as a general rule of thumb a puppy can hold its bladder an hour for each month of age - so at 4 months your puppy *should* be able to hold it for 4 hours - and this is not happening. If the antibiotics helped - did the vet culture the urine and find bacteria? While your pup may not be screaming in pain, the urge to go is clearly present and that does cause a feeling of discomfort - so he goes and goes and goes.

IMHO you really need to find out WHY your puppy is drinking and peeing so much before you attempt a home remedy. What if your puppy has diabetes mellitis, a heritable genetic condition know to affect his breed? Dosing ACV is likely not the most effective or ideal approach to treating that condition. Please discuss with your vet an approach to finding out WHY your puppy is experiencing polydipsia - explain your budgetary constraints and the concern for over using an antibiotic and ask for an approach for a sensible diagnosis that gives you as many answers as possible without breaking the bank.

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Replied by Jill (Chilterns, Uk) on 01/22/2016

Hi,

Thanks for your comments. The vet didn't culture the urine, I think she just did a dip test this time. I understand what you are saying about getting to the bottom of why he drinks a lot then pees, and if it persists, I'll have to bite the bucket. But I'm trying to reason why this is particularly prevalent at certain times of the day, I.e. Over an hour in the early evening. Other times he seems able to hold it in and he hasn't had a problem when we've taken him into cafes or shops. I'm even wondering if it is diet related which is making him thirsty.

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Replied by TheresaDonate (Mpls., Mn) on 01/22/2016

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Hey Jill,

It may be helpful to keep a journal for what goes in and out of your pup. Measure all water and food and indicate time consumed and amount and see if there is any correlation to output time and frequency. What are you feeding? Corn based diets are known to cause UTI's and high salt diets such as the meaty rolls or chubs that are highly palatable are filled with sodium which can increase water intake.

Please keep us posted!

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